If pic related is accurate, then how could he kill 50+ people with only a rifle and pistol?
>>689297013
this was in Florida. California has stupid gun laws
Florida has no max magazine size. He could have done it with just the rifle without reloading, if he was a decent shot.
>>689297013
in florida link related is legal
http://www.sportsmansguide.com/product/index/100-rd-ar-15-drum-mag-black?a=1150085
he literally wouldnt have had to reload
your pic is only for cali laws
>>689297013
Cuz u don't know where cities r u dumb fuck
>>689298841
When is the last time you saw a sand nigger that could shoot? They're as bad as Vogons.
>>689297013
are you trying to say this is a conspiracy?
That there was no way he could have killed all those people because gun laws in Florida are so strict.
Also that is for California laws. I know you Europoors are dumb, but how do you not know what states are.
Fl fag here. No magazine restrictions. Plus I heard he had multiple mags.
But also think this was a crowded bar and just one bullet can go through multiple people.
>>689297013
>That pic trying to make banning "muh scurry assuhlt features" sound logical
>>689299494
I just assumed the same laws affect the whole country? Not my fault the usa has the weirdest legal system in the world...
>>689297013
Killing people is illegal too?
How is that possible?
>Criminals don't follow laws.
>>689299878
Na new York and Cali have cuck leaders so the try to change the laws. Just about every state is different but fl has some of the most relaxed gun laws.
Hell I'm 5 min from the bar that got shot up and I can go buy an ar15 right now with enough bullets to do the same thing
Fucking love this country. .
>>689299259
OP here, i met the shooter like 2 years ago, he was pretty nice didnt even speak that much like a sand nigger
>>689300113
I was asking since he supposedly used a "legal" ar
>>689300354
bs.. proof?
And ofc he didn't.. he was born american and one of those closet crazies. The question is.. did you KNOW him?
Also.. where do you claim to have met?
>>689300113
>If I make it harder for law abiding citizens It will be harder for criminals
>I'm bent on killing as many people as I can darn how will i get my hands on a illegal drum mag etc
>what is a black market
Law makers really believe someone wanting to kill so many people won't break more laws to accomplish this.
Good point anon.
>>689300347
Isn't the reason they have harsher gun laws because they have large cities and very bad crime?
>>689300915
that's what the jews want you to believe
>>689300626
I usually go during summer to my unclea house, he lives in those weird american suburb thingies with the golf courses, i think its called PGA villages and he was a guard there. We didnt go into deep conversation but we did have some small chat when he was working the gate booth he seemed pretty nice tbh
>>689300626
>closet crazies
It's called "sudden jihad syndrome". There's a difference.
Not to be confused with real crazies, like the guy who shot the theater during Dark knight Rises, Sandy Hook school, or the Charleston church shooter.
>>689300915
No it's cuz they have larger liberal populations and that's what they want.
>>689301026
ok, then what is the real reason? They hate freedom?
>>689297013
>crowd of people
>one shot hits multiple targets
high powered bullets don't go through solid bodies, hurr durr that's why hero throw selves in front and take bullet, right?
There sure are some dumb fucks on this board.
>>689300354
he was born in the US dumb dumb
how many second generation americans do you know with an accent?
>>689301351
pretty much, yes. they hate freedom and personal responsibility
>>689301332
Well that is how the people got elected.
I live in washington. We are Liberal as fuck and our laws are pretty open.
Having more liberals doesn't necessarily makes harder gun laws.
>>689301463
Wouldnt know, i was just reaponding to the guy saying he was a sand nigger, its not like im gonna look up the dudes bio or something just for a 4chan thread
>>689301811
give it a few years
>>689301351
Absolutely
>>689297013
>assault weapons
>military style
all buzzwords
>>689301811
Agreed but that's the usual trend of a liberal city.
But remember every gun law is a second amendment infringement
>>689297013
well there's this post on instagram i found.... could be they arent being honest about the multiple shooters. the paris attackers came in with 3 shooters in the bataclan
>>689302116
dont forget the extreme capicity high velocity supersonic armor-piercing cop-killer hollow points
>>689302116
Atleast they didn't use clip
>>689297013
How did San Bernardino happen in CA if they have strict gun laws?
Maybe we should outlaw gun massacres.
>>689302400
I don't even give a fuck about "at least"
none of those features in OP's pic is true
>>689297013
It was in Florida, you retard. And what's stopping him from just buying an assault rifle illegally?
>>689302116
buzzwords indeed.
I like how military style is a thing now days. most people fail to realizes the company's who supply the military are fucking civilian company's to begin with. there for the military is using civilian weapons, so they should be called Civilian styled weapons. lulz
>>689299259
Also FYI
Dumb sand niggers legit don't aim down sights
They think allah will guide their bullets.
>>689301611
>>689302059
So the government took away some of your freedoms, in order to protect the people.
Now you can argue that gun laws don't cut crime.
But this is government working as it should. The majority of people voted these politicians in. The politicians did what they think is in the interest of their constituents, and laws were passed.
This is how they do things in California, if you don't live there, you don't have to worry. if you do live there, vote these people out or leave the state.
>>689302355
Fear mongering is exactly what mudslimes want libtards to do.
>>689302355
I saw a twitter post of a person saying this was fake amd that the guy just wanted attention
>>689302805
>The politicians did what they think is in the interest of their constituents
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH!! youre either a comedy god or a fucking 12yo retard.
>>689302245
That's a bit of a stretch.
The amendment can be interpreted in a lot of ways.
>>689302805
Or just drive to FL and buy a shit load of high cap mags and drive back to CA. Country is a joke.
>>689297013
>how could he kill 50+ people with only a rifle and pistol?
Time to shoot and lack of armed resistance principally. Honestly he probably could have done the job with just the pistol if he had enough loaded magazines. If someone has a gun and no one is fighting back against them then they don't really need a machine gun to kill a lot of people if those people are just sitting their waiting to see if they get shot before the police save them.
Also I highly suspect that a fair number of the 50 people killed died as a result of being trampled to death in the ensuing panic as 300 terrified people (many of them drunk) tried to escape a small, dimly light club.
>>689302805
>So the government took away some of your freedoms, in order to protect the people.
Normally I would make a response to this, but I'm just going to let my boy Ben Franklin take this one
>>689302805
Ayy
>A Congress elected by the people isn't letting me do something because the people that chose them, don't want it.
>Let me sign an executive order to force it anyways
>>689303316
or just buy them online. much cheaper and easier than driving 2000 miles
>>689299259
>Vogons.
oh i thought vogon was a racial slur
>>689303077
Not really. "The Right of the people to bear arms shall not be infringed" is pretty fucking clear in its intent.
guns arent the problem. pussification of america and politically correct SJWs are. this muslim terrorist faggot was an employee with security clearance at a Department Homeland Security contractor. He had multiple clearance and firearms licenses. so really, maybe we should be talking about muslim control:
Officials say Omar Mir Seddique Mateen, an Afghan-American who held two firearms licenses and a security officer license, was employed by the security firm G4S Secure Solutions USA Inc. since Sept. 10, 2007.
>>689303316
>buy a shit load of high cap mags and drive back to CA
high cap mags aren't allowed
>>689303077
Stretch these nuts across your face.
>>689303339
FYI I live in Florida, I talked to a friend of mine who is a fire marshal. he told me he's not 100% sure, but he believes the club was over capacity allowed by the state, and if so that that club owner is gonna be sued big fucking time.
>>689303339
yeah, plus think of the fags wearing high heals, you can easily be stabbed to death by them just being stepped on one or two times
>>689298841
50 killed , 50 others wounded.
A least 100 shots fired
>100 round clip
>>689303455
Theres a gun shop every 5 miles in Orlando.
>>689303600
That's the fucking point. How would anyone know you had them?
>>689303597
>Guns aren't the problem
>Mass shootings because everyone has access to guns
Ok kiddo ;)
>>689303346
well tell the people in California that. Or vote them out if you live there.
>>689303415
I'm not sure how these laws were passed, I don't live there. but the Governor and President are Elected too you know.
>>689303849
the moment you get caught you get hit for a fucking felony
>>689299072
Anybody say what model it was? He had to have shot at least 100 time from the witness descriptions. I'd think that fucker would overheat.
>>689303836
yes i am aware, was making fun of the idea of driving across the country to buy things you can have mailed to your door for $1000's cheaper
>>689303959
Unless you were planning a murder spree and die in a hail of bullets during a shootout with cops.
>>689297013
Firing into a packed club at point blank range. He probably could have done it with a lever-action .44 and a couple spares.
>>689304145
You can't buy anything from a gunstore if you're not a resident of that state
you're gonna do a BGC
>>689304096
We just know it was an ar15
>>689301463
Just Juan
>>689303959
If you're hell bent on shooting up a load of people in CA do you really think you would be worried about a fucking felony?
>>689301463
>dumb dumb
Found the butt-hurt faggot.
>>689297013
It's not hard to miss a crowd.
>>689303541
you are forgetting the Militia part.
Is just a statement? or is it a qualifier for the next part.
>>689303836
I was born in Orlando, lived in Florida for the last 20 sum years [moved stations with the family when I was a little kid] I know of like only 8 different places that sell guns in the Orlando city down town area, and one is the bass pro.
>>689304340
This never happens regardless
>>689303756
Its called a magazine not a clip and you can actually get 120 round magazines (pic related) for an AR15 although odds are he was using 30 rounders.
Truthfully though reloading doesn't take long enough that its a significant factor which is why laws restricting magazine capacity don't accomplish shit.
Vid related.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCSySuemiHU
>>689301366
>thinks .223 rounds over penetrate reliably.
confirmed not gun fag.
>>689303541
you left out the first part completely. The whole second amendment reads, "A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed." the official us militia is the national guard so if interpreted in a certain way ordinary citizens don't even have a right to bear arms. That being said I believe in gun rights to an extent just don't leave the 1st part out it is pretty important because it makes the whole statement ambiguous. On top of an ambiguous statement no one has found further info on what the founding fathers meant by the 2nd amendment so it's all just up to debate.
>>689304685
>you left out the first part completely
its right there m8
Just be glad you didn't post this to /k/ you dumpling. Florida gun laws are different than California laws, plus are you really so stupid to think because something is illegal people won't get it? I've seen spics in LA with 100 round drums on their glocks.
OP is dumb as fuck
http://millerreport.us/g4s/omar-mateen-g4s-park-big-coverup/
>>689304871
No you left out half of the amendment.
>>689297013
Well, if you aim for head of one fag you also hit the femoral artery of another.
>>689304464
Its a justification for the ensuing assertion of policy "being necessary for the security of a free state".
You can tell because the first sentence is grammatically incomplete without the second sentence.
In contrast "The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." Functions as a sentence on its own because it is an independent assertion.
If the founders wanted to say that the militia had a right to bear arms then they would have said "the rights of the militia to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed"; but they said "the people" which clearly shows that they did not mean to speak only about a well regulated militia.
>>689304469
Well buddy I've lived here all my life and there are tons. Remember that just about every pawn shop openly sells guns to. Theres probably like 7 major retailers that exclusively sell guns. But there's also all the major sporting goods stores that sell them aswell.
>>689304685
>no one has found further info on what the founding fathers meant by the 2nd amendment so it's all just up to debate.
Dude, for fucks sake. They were very fucking clear what they meant you just haven't bothered to look it up.
Look at this quote from Washington.
>>689305305
>>689304600
Right....
Forgive my slang when I spoke out of term, "magazine"
Let's assume walmart was out of 120 round drum marvels.
Anyone know the song that was playing while the place was being shot up? I'd like to listen to that song over and over.
>>689305383
Well I'd have to look at gun broker to kinda get an idea of what pawn shops are legally allowed to buy [most down here in Kissimee that have guns for sale, are on gunbroker.] but I was just talking gun shops/retailers kinda deal..
>>689304685
"All power is inherent in the people...and it is their right and duty to
be at all times armed" --- Thomas Jefferson
"The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep
and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against
tyranny in government." - Thomas Jefferson
"The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil
interference - they deserve a place of honor with all that's good."
George Washington
>>689305758
Nice edge
>>689305305
This is the kind of shit that is argued to death in courts. And what the founders meant it to say has very little to do with the actual words of which the amendment is interpreted.
For example: how infringed is infringed. Does this mean no gun laws whatsoever? or is it as long as you can get A gun of any type you haven't crossed the Amendments line yet.
>>689304600
>you can actually get 120 round magazines (pic related) for an AR15 although odds are he was using 30 rounders.
It's called as drum not a magazine
>>689305805
>>689305805
>b-but we can't possibly know what they meant when writing the 2nd amendment.
fuckers need to realize this country wasn't found by sjw pussies, these guys lived a time when a government was actually fucking with people and had first hand experience with what worked.
just bought my lifetime NRA membership today, suck it SJWs. other normal people/gun owners, i advise you to do the same. they need all the help they can get
>>689304871
sorry I wasn't replying to the picture. The picture though isn't a great analogy though because my point is the definition of a militia or a "well balanced breakfast". so I would counter that with what defines a well balanced breakfast... could the gov't take away unhealthy food then? all I'm saying is the 2nd amendment is probably the hardest one to intemperate so this idea that the 2nd amendment is just a right to guns I don't like. They put the 1st part of the amendment in there for a reason.
>>689306140
No. It's still a magazine.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beta_C-Mag
>>689306140
>It's called as drum not a magazine
No fucktard, its not.
Its called a "drum magazine". Drum refers to a particular design of magazine.
Don't believe me? Go ask /k/, they'll get a laugh out of how smart you think you are.
>>689300915
They have bad crime cause of the harsher gun laws
All I got to say is, this is gonna be one hell of a documentary...
>>689306354
>and had first hand experience with what worked.
yeah, killing limy fuckers.
I always wonder what life would be like today, if the south had won.. not that I support any type of slavery [and its been said if the south won, slavery still would of been abolished anyway.] but would of there been less of this SJW crap now days because our western morals where different and not infected with northern cancer?
>>689297626
>this was in Florida. California has stupid gun laws
The only smart thing about California gun laws is limits on the number of rounds a magazine can hold.
IT WAS A FALSE FLAG, PROVE ME WRONG WITH PICTURES OF DEAD BODIES INSIDE
>>689303756
>calls it a clip when its a magazine and tries to talk like he knows what hes talking about afterwards
>>689306581
>>689306615
>>689297013
Hacks
>>689305805
and yet these same guys made it illegal for a nigger to even hold a gun
>>689297013
The rounds are going right through people.
>>689306520
The NRA does not need your help. Gun laws are very decisive in this country, and the NRA give politicians rating on gun friendliness that can make or break a campaign.
The are a powerful organization, they don't NEED your help.
>>689306820
>you're autistic for using the correct terminology
>>689306733
>is limits on the number of rounds a magazine can hold.
for law abiding citizens, not terrorists
>>689306733
know what would be a great limit?
your time on the internet. how's that sound? sounds good to me.
>>689305785
Pawn shops around me sell everything. Remember there's even more restrictions on pistols than there are on ARs or other long rifles.
>>689303756
It's almost like the bullets went through people and hit multiple targets.
>>689303077
They weren't made to be interpreted
>>689306733
This video shows how little difference magazine size makes. It tests two shooters, one trained, one untrained and asks them to fire on a target using extended magazines and standard ones.
The result is that the time it takes to reload is completely negligible even for the untrained shooter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCSySuemiHU
>>689299259
Whens the last time you needed to be able to aim in a crowded gay club as people cram against eachother near the exits?
Try and use that noggin' there bud.
>>689307011
all I gotta say this shit better not hurt this years last push for open carry...
>>689306545
you conveniently leave out though the it says the right of the People, capitalized.
it's not implied when you take into account that we the People is capitalized as well, leading to it being the publics right to bare arms.
>>689304600
>>689305607
>>689306140
>>689306615
>>689306581
>>689306766
>>689306820
>>689306935
still baited by this in 2016...
>>689306739
Pics or it didn't happen.
Just like Sandy hook.
>>689307216
>Whens the last time you needed to be able to aim in a crowded gay club as people cram against eachother near the exits?
sounds like a porno the faggots on 4chan would watch.
>>689306865
smartest men that ever lived.
>>689304685
According to the second militia act of 1792, every male between 18 and 52 is "the militia"
>>689306706
not sure how it would have worked out, seeing as how the north focused on more industrialization, which allowed for higher production which inevitably wins wars.
>>689307105
What? Of course they were made to be interpreted.
The dudes who wrote them knew they wouldn't be alive forever, and since we can't ask them, we have to interpret the laws the wrote.
>>689306897
where do you think they get their power/money retard? from their membership base, which are just average joes who give them money
>>689304096
>overheat
>100 shots
Not too enlightened on the subject to speak on it eh?
>>689307625
well its not exactly like the south had massive amounts of iron mines.... so that's one thing they got cucked on hard. plus the lack of basic supplies like the famous boots and horse blankets. [tho once they figured out they could use Spanish moss for horse blankets, they solved that problem, but it was the end of the war bretty much.]
>>689297013
ever played call of duty and got a double or triple
>people in a nightclub are close together, not lined up single file
>>689299072
>he wouldn't have had to reaload
No he would have had to swap mags because I've experienced and heard nothing except a failure to feed-fest from those retarded things.
>if they worked the military would probably use them desu senpai
>>689307641
If they madecide them to be interpreted then there would have been no point in making them, cause you can interpret any of the amendments to mean the opposite. Just get enough as Sholes to agree and they can change your rights.
>>689307641
how about reading it and interpreting it literally
we have the right according to the second amendment, and ANY regulations or laws against guns is restricting my right.
>>689306545
>They put the 1st part of the amendment in there for a reason.
Yes they did. Because the 2nd specifically says "ARMS" and not guns.
The "Militia" part is to specifically account for the Military need for these "arms".
So, the right to "Arms" that cannot be infringed specifically includes MILITARY Arms such a canons.
By today's standards, "Arms" would include tanks, Howitzers, machine guns, fighter jets, drones, grenades, and even nuclear weapons (if you had the money, materials, and technical knowledge to build one).
>>689308041
And the gun industry. . .
>>689305566
george quote is fake http://www.snopes.com/george-washington-gun-quote/
and the only other person I have seen quotes from is Thomas Jefferson like here >>689305805
and I would expect Thomas to take a more freedom/ libertarian attitude as he always had more of that attitude. I know that he was one of the main writers of the BoR but there has to be a more big gov't attitude/ opinion on the subject from back then that I want to hear. Also weapons tech has advanced a lot since 1791 so that's another place of ambiguity in modern discussion.
>>689307147
Are you retard?
>>689308278
if you can afford it, you can actually legally buy a howitzer. it's just a big ass expensive bolt action. lmao.
>>689299259
Ever since the window of muh hummah go shot right where it would have hit the birdman's head inna sandbox.
RETARDS
the faggot was on a terror watchlist. he couldnt fly on a plane, so WHY would he pass the background check? govt is too retarded to do anything right. banning guns is not the solution, we have many laws already in place, that arent effectively enforced or actually used.
muslims on a terror watchlist should be fucking deported. shot and dumped in the ocean preferred
>>689308151
No, they tend to work fine depending on who manufactures the drum, and what type of AR is being used in conjunction.
If you're running shit tier mags with a shit tier weapon, then you'd want to practice clearing jams quite a bit.
>>689304600
Yeah you can use these if you love getting 12 rounds out before clearing a jam.
>>689308384
Especially the civilian gun market
>>689308590
no, depends on your state. destructive device (bore size greater than 20mm) require title 3 paperwork, lots of states dont allow title3 items (suppressors, full auto)
>>689299878
>federal laws affect all states and are enforceable only by federal police
>state laws are enforceable only by city and state police of the state in which they affect.
What's difficult about that?
>>689308409
>Also weapons tech has advanced a lot since 1791 so that's another place of ambiguity in modern discussion
the whole point of the amendment is to have a fighting chance against a government. so as tech advances, so too does civilian rights of access
>>689308714
To add, the type of ammo being run is a huge factor as well. Steel cases can be finicky with some AR-15s and their mags, and other types of low end bargain ammo.
>>689308618
RELAX YOU STUPID FUCK.
When you buy a firearm in the state of Florida, you have to scan your DL to do a quick and dirty background check to make sure you're not a felon. THERE FOR. THERE IS A BACKGROUND CHECK.
blame the government for not having a connected system for the 21s century that would allow gun shops to just as easily check to see if someones on a terrorist watch list.
The FBI FAILED
the federal government FAILED.
the gun shop that sold the firearm didn't fail, just did what they did everyday.
>>689308714
ammunition quality is also a factor, though not as important as some others
>>689303922
>being this retarded
Yes, we ban guns in the entire country.
Man hits police officer in back of head, steals gun, commits crime.
You will never stop gun violence, which is why we'll never give up our right to defend ourselves so you retards that think it's as simple as passing a law feel safe at night.
Time to grow up kiddie.
>>689307147
Extended magazines jam all the time 30 rounders are better, but i think you could accomplish more with a glock and 60 drum mag
>>689307238
Fuck right. Was really looking forward to it. Its either gona crush it to put it through the roof.
>>689308794
umm here in Florida you can buy a 20mm rifle with no paper work? as the company who makes them are in cocoa. pretty sure destructive device means something that explodes. IE: an artillery piece with explosive filler.
.223/5.56 rounds are designed to fragment and create massive cavitation...it's why they are more effective than 7.62 rounds in terms of lethality. all he would need is 2-3 magazines to kill that many and using his handgun still cause more people either severe or minor injuries.
>>689308936
true though ive never had issues with steel cased stuff in my ARs, even my cheap builds.
>>689308168
There is no way to interpret the second amendment to show that guns can not be owned.
That is the baseline. You can argue many things about the militia, the word Infringed, what arms means. But there is no way you could make the amendment say nobody can have guns.
>>689307147
>>689308535
>Are you retard?
Did you watch the video? The one with a Sheriff demonstrating in an objective test how little difference magazine capacity actually makes?
No?
You just decided to call me a retard, while refusing to look at evidence contrary to your views in order to maintain a state of willful ignorance?
That's sad anon.
>>689302393
You forgot the new baby skull seeking ammunition, nigga
>>689297013
that top one that is illegal in california is very legal in florida.
>>689308869
thank you for this revelation. i did not understand it until now.
>>689300347
>everything I don't like is a cuck
>>689309346
i think they are called "pacifiers", i got 10000 on order, should be here tomorrow.
>>689306953
>>689307001
>>689306520
>derp
>>689308794
And, I believe, you pay your $200 tax for the Howitzer and a $200 tax for every fuckin' round.
>>689297013
They're illegal, not unobtainable. So if you're going to kill a bunch of people, your gun is the least of your worries.
>>689308409
>Also weapons tech has advanced a lot since 1791 so that's another place of ambiguity in modern discussion.
when the amendment was passed it included all canons, the most powerful weapon of the time
>>689308957
thats what i was saying. im not advocating for more gun control, in fact less. i am just showing how retarded the govt is, how inept they are in dealing with the information they currently get, and how any further laws just disarms honest people while not making anyone safer
>>689308618
Because liberal faggots want to ignore muslims to be more PC, they deny any connection to large scale savagery and violence any person can see and attempt to censor anyone who does actually see it
>>689307147
Yeah and California mandates a bullet button.
>>689309180
>>689309180
federal law.
https://www.atf.gov/firearms/firearms-guides-importation-verification-firearms-national-firearms-act-definitions-1
>Any type of weapon by whatever name known which will, or which may readily be converted to expel a projectile, by the action of an explosive or other propellant, the barrel or barrels of which have a bore greater than one-half inch in diameter.
>>689301258
>he looks middle eastern
>TERRORISTS
>JIHADISTS
>EVERY ONE OF THEM
Anyone who is a proponent or a supporter for any type of laws on firearms, is either not very intelligent, or has done next to no research; or the research that was done was stained with confirmation bias and emotions.
To say "oh wow, another mass shooting? Sounds like we need to get rid of guns!" is to completely ignore the issue within culture, society, and their respective system(s). So what if you take the gun? Does the problem of the desire to commit acts of evil go away? No. These are feel good measures - Band-Aids on broken legs. Virtue signaling courtesy of the left, who don't see or won't see the bigger picture.
Has anybody considered the fact that maybe an influx of Muslims might not be a great idea at this time in history? It isn't to say that they're inherently bad people, some Muslims mean well and want to live peacefully. But to accept hundreds of thousands of people who come from war torn nations with little to no education in some cases, who have average low IQs relative to the US, is just not smart.
So, we should limit and restrict rights of our own people because people who shouldn't even be here are abusing said rights? Get real people. Stop being cucks and try-hard moralists and seek objectivity.
>>689308890
I agree that's the point of the original amendment but I'm not sure they ever anticipated nukes. The thing that makes america so great is that we can reform and refine our constitution to better fit with the times. The bill of right's was the 1st thing to do that and maybe we should change the 2nd amendment weather it is to insure that people do have the right to truly defend themselves or if we should change it to say, no citizen should be able to have that much power.
>>689309180
No, as he said the ATF defines a a weapon above a certain caliber to be a destructive device.
>>689309680
sorry for going full retard on you then, I thought you meant totally something else. my fault.
>>689309873
>one in a half inch, equals to 38.1 millimeter
20mm rifle would be legal then... lol. a 30mm rifle would be legal, fuck, I can own a GUA-8. BRRRRRPPP
>>689302355
Even if this man wasn't a fear mongering lying piece of shit, why would you trust the word of a woman who has been supposedly shot 12 times? It is very likely someone in that circumstance could have seen things that werent.
>>689309834
no it doesnt , the bullet button is a workaround to adapt rifles to existing law regarding "assaulty" features and detachable magazines
I've heard that there were supposedly two other shooters, not sure how legit, but seems possible
>>689309970
should amend the 1st Amendment that free speech is limited to 10 facebook posts per day.
>>689302539
>there for
>>689309970
>no citizen should have that much power
This is the problem. Be more worried about state power before you worry about your fellow men and women.
If the state didn't exist, or was extremely limited, what incentive is there to purchase a nuclear warhead?
>>689310098
>one-half inch
>one in a half inch
stay in school.
>>689310098
read again man, one half inch, as in, .5 inches, as in, anything greater than 50 cal
>>689309888
Sorry, but when that's all they do we're gonna look at them a different way.
>>689310156
>>689310156
im not, i just posted hoping someone else could confirm with similar accounts if that happened
>>689309970
I'm not arguing that the increased tech means increased access for civilians expands to tanks and nukes. you don't need tanks and nukes to hold an effective resistance against a govetnment, the sand people have shown that. I'm saying that they clearly knew that advances would be made, that's why it says arms, instead of rifles, etc. so it's meant to expand the access for civilians as the government expands its access as well.
>>689310311
>>689310345
doesn't matter, pretty sure if I had the money to buy a fucking howitzer I was rich enough to make the government piss off.
>>689310578
well, maybe one day taco bell will pay you $10,000,000,000 per hour and we will find out.
>>689310578
again, they are legal for anyone who's state allows it, just require the paperwork for a destructive device. that means a $200 tax stamp and a form filled out and sent to ATF
>>689310714
jokes on you, I live at home in the basement. my mom pays me an allowance.
>>689310806
lucky. my mom makes me live in a tent in the backyard so no one can see me
>>689310461
I bet you think Marijuana is a gateway drug too
>>689310915
sorry to hear that bro. so how's the weather?
>>689309513
Duh
>>689309397
It's effectively legal in california, as well. The only thing you can't get around is the magazine capacity, which doesn't matter anyway.
>compliant muzzle break california doesn't consider a "flash suppressor"
>triangle forward grip
>pistol grip that attaches to stock in some manner (there's tons of different kinds made to get around the restriction)
>non-telescoping stock
These items are functionally identical to their banned counter-parts, and get around the secondary conditions so that you can own an AR with a detachable 10 round magazine. Like other people have said, the difference between a 30 round mag and 3x 10 round mags + switching mags is nothing.
All this is just gay busywork that punishes law abiding hobbyists and does nothing to stop criminals... just like all gun restrictions.
>>689297013
Dude, he was in there 3 fucking hours. He was taking his sweet ass time, and so were the police.
>>689310963
marijuana is a gateway drug tho.
started smoking pot in middle school, my pot dealer offered me coke and I bought some when I had the money when I was in HS.
bet you think the earth is flat.
>>689310995
hot as fuck, but i got one of those plastic blue swimming pools today so it should make the summer better. (ironically my captcha was selecting pool chairs lol)
>>689310963
Nope, just that islam is a part of only the most savage, violent,primitive nations in the world.
And that all of this is backed up with real world fact.
And that all you can do is get pissy about this.
>>689310522
>you don't need tanks or nukes
If the guvment really had a domestic problem, I doubt they'd hesitate to use drones and tanks. In which case no gun is going to save you
>>689311169
better get a pool chair now, captcha demands it. I swear this whole thread for me has been palm trees.
>>689306733
Also stupid, you fucking cuck faggot.
>>689297013
>Different laws in Florida
But more importantly no-one at the club actually ran away, they just minced around in circles panicking. Easy targets.
>>689311303
yeah, gonna get one of those lounger ones that reclines all the way and shit and has a cup holder for my vodka. store fronts all night for me so far
>>689309544
This is exactly what's about to happen.
>>689311143
You have no self control and would have done the drugs, regardless.
>>689308936
>>689308714
The fact that there's so much inconsistency is why nobody uses them.
If someone wants to btfo a bunch of faggots they're not going to use a drum like that.
This is for farmer bill who wants to magdump on a bunch of hogs and isn't worried about dying if he has to rack the slide or hit the drum a few times to get it to work.
>These ISIS fuckers are doing this because we've basically carpet bombed their country. Now the politicians and shills are out about gun control because their friends on TV have everyone convinced self defense is bad
>literally a communist takeover tbhfam.
>>689307078
people were also trampled to death
gotta love the human RACE
>>689310166
I think the 1st and 2nd amendment are quite different. The 1st amendment isn't being very infringed upon today like the 2nd amendment is that's why I'm saying we should maybe change the 2nd to match our world more.
>>689310522
good point.
>>689311280
>>689311586
HUEmanity
>>689311206
And all middle eastern people are Muslim, right?
>>689311280
Yeah it's not like shitty towelheads have been blowing up tanks for generations with homemade explosives or anything.
Yeah sure, the military made up of US citizens is just gonna fully invest in killing US citizens, none will defect with military equipment and join the militia, no sir, wouldn't happen, it's just their family and families like them they'd be bombing.
>>689311722
>1st amendment isn't being very infringed upon today
>today
all it takes is one retard, once incident and it will be assaulted just as hard and fast
>>689311554
>no self control.
if you aren't exposed the drugs then there wouldn't be other drugs.
if your buying pot for 3 years, then your dealer exposes you to coke, and offers you a good deal. wouldn't that effectively make pot the gateway drug by every condition, you fucking sperm lord.
>>689311308
>everything I don't like is a cuck
collats
>>689311914
only if you do the coke and enjoy it and buy more of it
>>689311940
>not killing him by shooting him in the testicles.
focking newb. its like you don't even wanna go for the 'head' shots.
>>689311863
>commit treasonous acts like trying to overthrow a corrupt government
>thinks you'll still be considered a citizen
>>689311854
Nope! just the by far majority in said shit-hole countries they've torn apart and kept from progressing! Just that if a middle easterner was going to shoot a bunch of people we already know why, that's all. The same reasoning they always give. Some crusty old book telling them they're gonna get all the pussy in the world by doing horrible things to other people.
Any more straw mans you need me to run through, crybaby?
>>689312049
who doesn't enjoy coke? other then those who never tried it...
>>689297013
>Thinking the type of person to go on a murderous rampage will follow these silly, convoluted, superficial checklists about what parts your gun can and cannot have.
Top cuck m8.
>>689311884
yeah and I think it is infringed upon today to an extent. I don't think hate speech should really be a crime society should just look at that person and go, "well their an idiot". not through them in jail.
gofundme for the victims of the shooting
www(dawt)gofundme(dawt)com/2942a444
remove the (dawt) in link above and replace with .
i just gave. yes im an NRA member, yes im voting for Trump 2016. these are fellow americans who got attacked by a hateful ideology, and a lot of ppl in the hospital need help right now and will be facing a lifetime of medical bills. help out if you can guys
>>689312123
if it gets to the point where drone strikes are authorized I sincerely doubt it's just me, buddy, and at that point, yes, soldiers will defect with military equipment.
Why are you trying so hard, are you upset that no matter what direction you try to go in disarming the public is retarded and solves no problem?
I'll outline it nice and fine for you.
>all guns are illegal
>illegal guns magically poof (lol)
>someone hits police officer in back of head
>commits mass shooting
>take guns from cops
>buy shipment from illegal immigrant cartel tunnels
>commit mass shooting
Trying to make laws based on insane people is fucking retarded (see: transgender laws)
>>689312630
>someone shilling off a gofund me to fund their feminist/SJW hate party
bro. you a fool.
>>689312630
obamacare will pay their bills
>>689312190
I dislike cocaine.
>>689312190
I've done coke on several occasions. Only when it's offered. I'm quite indifferent to it. Really doesn't do much for me.
Would rather smoke pot and chill.
>>689312712
why? its legit, i got the link from the news story here http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/gay-south-florida/article83301677.html
>>689312740
dr rockso, go to bed you are drunk and high on cocaine, again
>>689312725
this, kekles.
>>689297013
>hurr durr y is California law is not law in Florida
>>689312817
its not legit bro. just because a shitty news agency post it, doesn't mean its legit, betcha who ever created that is some sort of left wing LGBT/Feminist hate nazi.
>>689312664
I've never said anything of the sort. I'm just saying you take an inch, you'll take a mile. What you think they intended in the constitution is more than likely incorrect, but the times being what they are, who's to say one day our right to "bear arms" won't extend to nuclear weapons?
>>689309968
How about we do both so both /b/tards AND Muslims can't shoot shit up!
Yes, there would still be shootings occurring, but very very rarely. Basement dwellers have a hard time getting illegal shit.
>>689297626
>stupid gun laws
That would have reduced the piece of shit's kills by more than 75%, you fucking idiot.
>>689302355
>>media doesn't want to scare everyone
Right, because fear isn't the media's bread and butter
>>689306733
AND fixed mag. Fixed mag is a really good gun law.
>>689313068
Nah what going to happen is eventually enough people will get tired of the gun rights faggots and guns will be banned for the little people.
>>689313130
this, in fact gun laws would have actually created lives instead of killing them
>>689313244
No gun law is a good gun law you shill
all the 'good' muslims and SJWs say "Dont judge all muslims by the actions of a few bad ones, they dont represent us"
what about treating gun owners the same way?? 99.9999999% of gun owners dont use their guns to kill innocent people
>>689313345
>little people
You mean midgets?
>>689313093
not a fan of /k/ bro. but if /k/ started their own warband, they would fuck muzzie militants up all day every day.
and if they invited /pol/ to be cannon fodder, and brought along /out/ to help them survive outdoors away from their AC'd computers. shit would be cash as fuck.
>>689313392
so the 2nd amendment is a bad gun law?
There were 3 shooters news is only reporting on the one that was killed the other 2 are still out there hence the high body count.
hillary says "weapons of war have no place on our streets"
what about religions of war?
>>689303541
This made me fucking dumber for having read it.
Anyone making this argument should be automatically blacklisted for owning a weapon.
>>689313513
they'd last 5 hours max in any type of warzone
>>689308936
>tfw steel cased bullets void your AR's warranty
>but you don't care because you don't put slavshit in your NATO tier guns and vice versa.
>>689313513
Yeah, but the bottom line is, more people would still DIE.
/k/ and /pol/ are a very small portion of the US population.
>>689297013
Because when the first shot was fired some fag farted at the wrong end of the club. The fart catching fairies trampled there fellow fags to death just to get a taste.
>>689313392
So it should be your right to have a fucking nuclear ICBM?
Where does the insanity end? Tell me. At what point should guns finally be fucking regulatable you goddamned retard?!
>>689313645
you would be surprised what humans would do, given free range...
>>689313721
wut?
>>689313394
Yet we're still going to treat all Muslims as terrorists, all gays as rapists, and all jews as media puppet masters. So might as well treat all /k/ommandos as if they might shoot you and everyone you love for little to no reason.
>>689313795
and everyone stood at the bar because they paid $20 for a cosmo and werent leaving until they got it
>>689313832
Give me a single thing about guns that is unregulated already, that YOU think needs to be regulated and why.
Please provide supporting details and actual facts on the subject, and not just your opinion.
>>689313832
Is an icbm a gun, motherfucker? Can I shoot an icbm from a handheld barrel, fool?
>>689300753
Your points not fully correct though is it petal.
The point is that you have many legal gun smiths making many legal guns on hourly basis...if no one is making the guns then they will be harder, not impossible, but harder to get hold of.
It's harder for most Americans to find a low fat salad than it is a gun.
>>689313832
Can you people stop with the tired argument of owning nukes?
Arms mean weapons similar to what modern infantry soldiers use, not weapons of mass destruction you fucking imbecile
>>689314072
i think you can, pretty sure wile e coyote did it
>>689313392
>No gun law is a good gun law you shill
If shit fucks like you that are going to get guns banned you fuck.
>>689302355
B-b-b-b-b-bullshit
>>689314227
>>689313474
>You mean midgets?
Of course
anyone going out to buy guns tomorrow just in case of bans?
>>689314091
That's mostly because people don't want no fucking salad, and gunsmitting isn't some sort of mythical art kepts by the masters of industries. All you really need to make guns is a drill, a hammer, and metal. Beyond that it's only meant to improve it.
>>689314429
If 20 dead kids couldn't get guns banned I doubt 50 dead fags will
>>689309428
It's really great, you can go fishing in a public lake, and the game warden - a state police officer - asks you for a permit, you give him a state fishing permit, if he asks for a city fishing permit because the lake is in the city you can literally laugh at him and continue fishing because he has no right to cite you for a city permit, and if you go to court the judge will, without a doubt (assuming you are articulate and not a niggeresque person) tell the cop he's a fucking moron and waive your citation for fishing without a city permit.
>>689314213
>Can you people stop with the tired argument of owning nukes?
>>689314429
only retards who didnt already buy 10 over the past couple years. just got my 5th AR last week
>>689303346
How is the right to bear arms an essential liberty? The 2nd amendment makes it clear that the intent is civil protection.
>>689314034
How about we start with mandatory SAFE INSTRUCTION COURSES.
Then I'd say firearms should have their rifling markings logged into a forensic database at creation, making it easy to trace any illegal use of that firearm for criminal investigations.
After that, safe storage instruction and laws. No more leaving guns around for Jr. to find and shoot daddy with or shoot up his school because his skank 16 yo girlfriend dumped his ass. Before you bitch about home invasion practicality, there are tons of safes and bed attachments that open with a PIN or fingerprint scan in the same time it takes to open a dresser drawer.
>>689303956
Being elected doesn't suddenly mean you are immune from criticism or blockage when you want to do something retarded. Otherwise I wouldn't have gotten such a bad cred for my "use babies as boxing mittens" proposal.
>>689314429
>he doesn't have his stockpile built up by now
>>689314618
You sound ready to have one of your kids find your gun and accidentally kill you in the middle of the night.
>>689314213
Tell you what, we'll give up the 100% valid argument of owning nukes if you retards will give up the 100% invalid one you have about cars killing more people than guns.
Deal?
>>689313643
Ah, we have fallen into the "it's not my job to educated you!" level of discussion.
>>689314734
How about people taking personal responsibility for their guns instead of having to have the government legislate every single aspect about it?
>>689314306
This is one of the most retarded and completely erroneous allegories I've ever fucking seen.
This artist owes the planet an apology.
>>689314839
i have no kids.
>>689314891
Sorry, it's a strawman argument, not a real argument
And the cars and guns thing is a fact, so not invalid
>>689314734
You seriously want me to put my gun in a case at night?
I'm not going to be fumbling with a lock while my wife is getting raped by a pack of niggers.
Always have a piece under the mattress. Chambered and ready.
>>689314839
Assumes he had sex
>>689315079
How so?
>>689315111
Good
I live in Australia and I don't fear being a casualty in a mass shooting. You Americans could learn something from us.
>>689315006
I like this.... I have at least 4 of the guns I seen there lol. Its like when you see your kids from a distance away and know who they are
>>689307147
The "untrained shooter" only fired 14 shots before dropping the mag. An untrained shooter wouldn't know to do that.
>>689315239
How's that gun ban working out for you?
>>689314734
>How about we start with mandatory SAFE INSTRUCTION COURSES.
who's going to pay for these safe instruction courses? You or me?
>Then I'd say firearms should have their rifling markings logged into a forensic database at creation, making it easy to trace any illegal use of that firearm for criminal investigations.
knowing where the bullet came from, wont stop the fact the bullet was fired. moot argument I'd hate to say.
>After that, safe storage instruction and laws. No more leaving guns around for Jr. to find and shoot daddy with or shoot up his school because his skank 16 yo girlfriend dumped his ass.
you already are criminally responsible to keep your firearms away from youngings to keep them and their friends safe. if a little kid obtains a gun and shoots themselves or an other, its often times charged against the gun owner.
Also a PIN or fingerprint scan system, this isn't fucking james bond bro. those shits are expensive to begin with, and rely on battery's or a direct power source, the most likely chance your home with be broken into is during power outages and natural disasters where power won't be available. then you can't fucking get to your gun. so whats the point of owning it?
i'll wait....
>>689301463
I'm a second generation palestenian born in the US and I'm about as american as they come. My skin is dark and I grow a lot of hair lmao but I also have a concealed carry permit and wouldve blasted that guys head off if he did that shit in a club I was in.
>>689315006
You can't make the "personal responsibility" argument when the accidental or purposeful disregard of its tenets results in the serious harm or murder of innocent people.
Your toys are too fucking dangerous to allow just every retard on the street to have one. Can't you see that?
WE have a right to LIFE more than you have a right to keep your fucking guns with zero training, safety or thought of others in your minds.
>>689315352
The purchaser of the firearm would pay for the course.
>>689297013
Damn, California has some shitty gun laws, even my country has better
>>689314734
>Then I'd say firearms should have their rifling markings logged into a forensic database at creation, making it easy to trace any illegal use of that firearm for criminal investigations.
>oh shit this barrel is in a database
>change barrel out
>>689315549
Your rights aren't more important than mine, sorry
And I do have the right to life as well, along with owning guns. If you don't like it, tough shit
>>689297013
SOLUTION: CARRY TWO OR MORE GUNS TO SHOOT UP A GAY BAR
>>689314839
Mine must have gotten mandatory stormtrooper training, because I am quite happy to say I have only been shot ten times by them, and those nerf darts fucking hurt when they hit your eyes.
>>689315323
You guys still have a higher murder rate.
>>689304248
they don't do background checks for magazines dipshit.. have you ever even bought a magazine? lol .. fucking idiots.
There are actually 2 more shooters on the run. He was not alone.
>>689315116
Cars - standard function doesn't harm anyone.
- Essential daily use object
- Regulated, registered in databases and requires operation instruction and passed test to own.
Guns - standard function harms people and things.
- NonEssential for everyday life.
- barely regulated, shittiest background check of all time required to own.
Yep, you're right. It's the same thing. A-DERP!!!
>>689315352
>i'll wait
No you won't the threads at 300 replies. It will be 5-10 minutes before it is pruned
>>689315831
And that's unlikely to change by banning guns, considering the ban didn't do shit, and the rate is lower even as the gun laws get more and more liberalized across the states.
>>689297013
Not accurate in Texas, could keep my Draco (think handgun style AK) loaded with a 30 round mag under my car seat without any special permit if I really felt like it. ....Come to think of it, I don't fear the mass shootings either .
>>689315831
Blame niggers, the white homicide rate is similar to Finland
>>689304145
>>689304248
you can literally walk into any major sporting goods store and buy magazines, and never show any id, and there is no background check. derp... and there shouldn't be.. we have a right to keep and bear arms.. including magazines.. the reason so many innocent people could be slaughtered is because they were trapped in a gun free zone, defenseless, unarmed, and unable to mount any effective resistance..
>>689315983
>>689315983
As I keep telling people, compare Garland with San Bernadino and Orlando. That's all you need to know about the anti-gun discussion.
>>689315861
>shittiest background check of all time required to own
It's a standard background check numbnuts
And cars don't save millions of lives a year unlike guns
>>689315681
Still a tad more involved than filing a serial number tag, right?
>>689315634
Exactly. It's a PRIVILEGE to own a deadly weapon.
>>689315352
IF those things are already supposed to be being done but obviously are NOT, then what's the harm in making it into law?
>>689315634
not gonna answer the other questions?
so you're telling me, areas that are extremely poor [like where I live, where people pretty much work at less then 10 dollars an hour] are going to be federally responsible to themselves that every time they buy a firearm, no matter long barrel or short, to attend a safe instruction course [I'm assuming like the one you have to take for CC permit.] that's gonna cost AT LEAST 100 bucks per course, plus the hour or two out of their work day to attend, just to buy a single firearm?
And what happens to private sales, they become illegal? how's that fair? what about when a person dies and leaves their guns to their family members, will the guns have to be given up to the government officials and returned back to the family once someone takes your safety courses?
you seeing the issue yet?
>>689312300
>http://www.sportsmansguide.com/product/index/100-rd-ar-15-drum-mag-black?a=1150085
>comparing 1.3million pop state to a 38.8million person state.
>>689316064
You act like just having a gun prepares you for this situation and simply brandishing it might scare away the bad guys.
You have to know how to use it affective, which most people who own them don't seem to be able to do.
>>689315861
Try harder..
>>689315948
USA ain't doing too good on the homicide rate actually.
http://indy100.independent.co.uk/article/the-chart-that-shows-americas-shocking-murder-rate-compared-to-other-countries--bkAvfB5lwx
>>689316304
>IF those things are already supposed to be being done but obviously are NOT, then what's the harm in making it into law?
makes no sense to almost everything I wrote.
>>689304685
>thinking that some assholes who lived 200 years ago were some kind of prophets
That's why America is so shitty. You can't think for your own and adapt.
>constitution created for a country of farmers will work in modern day, I promise!
>>689316330
I'm not the one you're arguing with. But that question was stupidly simple.
>>689304685
"I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people, except for a few public officials."
— George Mason, in Debates in Virginia Convention on
Ratification of the Constitution, Elliot, Vol. 3, June 16, 1788
anyone who reads the federalist papers, and the recorded debates ongoing during the ratification of the constitution, can know PRECISELY what the founders intended, with ZERO AMBIGUITY.
http://www.constitution.org/mil/cs_milit.htm
>>689315787
Feelings have jack shit to do with this.
Your irresponsible habit/passtime/psychosis is DIRECTLY contributing to people who didn't make that decisions's untimely and senseless deaths.
It's your fucking responsibility as a member of the gun owning public to try to STOP that from happening.
But nope. No required safe handling, no safe storage, no limits on ease of reload--nothing. You're barely better than the guys who snap and pull the trigger. You're accessories to their crimes; complicit in the means that allows it to happen.
>>689316427
>If you factor out other races, the murder rate among white Americans is 2.4 people per 100,000, which is not substantially higher than other developed countries such as Greece (1.7 per 100,000) and Canada (1.5 per 100,000).
But for Hispanic citizens, the rate is 5.3 people per 100,000, and for non-Hispanic black citizens, the murder rate is a distressingly high 19.4 people per 100,000
Literally niggers and spics
If you seriously believe that "Muslims" are the root of the problem, then congrats on being brainwashed by the extremists who want western minds to hate Islam.
If you could control your own thoughts half as well as you control your own recoil, you would realize you're playing into their plan.
>>689316330
Hmm. You want to own a weapon, but don't want to spend the time or effort to learn how to use it?
>>689302539
>military style
and don't forget that anything "military style" was made by the lowest bidder aka it's the cheapest piece of shit possible
>>689315111
Big shocker there.
NOT.
please at least tell me you're not one of those retards who leaves one lying in his car.
>>689315861
Ban alcohol before gun if you want to same more lives.
Oh wait, drinking brings in a lot of money...lets not touch that one...
>>689316582
>our irresponsible habit/passtime/psychosis is DIRECTLY contributing to people who didn't make that decisions's untimely and senseless deaths
No it's NOT. MY guns didn't kill anyone. CRIMINALS are doing the killing, not LAW ABIDING gun owners like me who take RESPONSIBILITY for their weapons.
SEE I can randomly CAPITALIZE worlds too.
>>689316598
They don't all shoot at each other. But my question is why is such a large portion of gun crime in the United States mostly committed by blacks and hispanics?
>>689316427
>say the rate is lowering now that the guns are being liberalized
>this somehow implies the USA total murder rate is below some arbitrary point
Ayyyy
>>689304600
is the ar15 even classified as assault weapon??
>>689316646
I wrote this earlier maybe you can better understand my point of view if you just read it..?
>its not even us gun owners and shit that don't want better gun laws, we do. but the far lefties just want to write these half assed laws, that are left up for interpretation, allowing the federal and state governments to add and apply new laws to such gun control laws, just willy nilly because they could at that point. people who believe that any government can be trusted, are mentally disturbed, and is the solid reason why I believe getting a better mental health system up and running is one of the most important things we need done as a country.
>>689316720
Don't forget what damage the Prohibition did when that was in effect in the USA.
>>689316646
Welcome to Murrica.
Reading is for faggots and all that jazz.
>>689316861
>They don't all shoot at each other
Yeah they do
>But my question is why is such a large portion of gun crime in the United States mostly committed by blacks and hispanics?
Poverty, drugs, shitty cultures
>>689316898
can't classify something that makes no sense to begin with, there is no such thing as an assault weapon, past what the media calls "black long barreled firearms"
