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Hey Americans, why do you allow your citizens to legally purchase weapons capable of killing so many?
http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/12/us/orlando-nightclub-shooting/
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>>689197957
What does it matter to you?
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>>689197957
just you wait...
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>>689197957
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>>689198970
>>689199212
>>689199269
Amerifats spotted
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>>689197957
because they used guns to bring down those planes on 911 rightt? you fucking retards try to be coy and sarcastic but you actually think banning guns will prevent whackos from doing whacko shit
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>>689200126
why is it always you fucking idiots then
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>>689200109
A spotty neck beard prick with no relations to America trying to speak about our way country.
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> Pulse nightclub

Looks like this pulse... just flat lined!
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you know mexico has like 1 gun shop
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>>689200510
\thread
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>>689200510
go to bed, edgy summerfag
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>>689197957
Even if you ban guns you will still be able to get them illegally if drugs can get smuggeld then so can guns it will just make it more expensive for thoes types of people to get them or go to other types of killing like bombs an shit or nerve gas you cant blame the tool only the user and if some of the people in the club had guns maybe all of them would not have died.

also pic is OC
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>>689197957
cause muslims are the problem.
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>>689197957
When you're a security gaurd, you can usually more easily access weaponry than normal citizens.
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>>689197957
Heres a better question: why do you allow people that are terrorists into your territory?
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>>689201823
this
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>>689197957
Entertainment ,you cannot say you aren't entertained by our mass shootings
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>>689200438
Funny
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>>689197957
Because we like our guns. Stay mad Eruofags.
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At least it was only the gays.
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>>689197957
A stick ripped off of a tree can kill dozens of people before it breaks.

We just prefer manufactured weapons.
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>>689200438
>always us
>paris
fucking dumbass.
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>>689197957
Yeah, we should be more like France, where the law says that sort of thing can't happen.
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>>689202635
Unfortunately he missed you, faggot
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>>689197957
Hey u idiot weapons dont kill people. I have over 20 guns and over 6000 rounds of ammunition. Not once have my weapons opened the safe. Walked out my house and killed anyone. Must be lazy guns
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>>689202000
Trips confirms the truth
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>>689202587
You meme is as retarded as you are.

Why compair 2 totaly diffrent sports ?

You should compair Rugby Vs American Football.

now ask the question why do you wear body armor to play sports ?

Further more we just say football because you fags cant come up with any ideas on sports you stel our name and discreace it by putting "American" in front of it.

you sir sicken me.

good day to you.
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>>689197957
Not American, but I'm 100% with the Americans in the issue of non-restrictive gunlaws. The government shouldn't dictate what people can or cannot buy/own.

If you're worried about people shooting places up, then look deeper than gun ownership, into the issues within society that causes such hate. Banning guns in such cases is like "treating" cancer with cold medicine.
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Remember kids, islam is peace!
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The guy was a guardsman according to the news.
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>>689201747

Jesus Christ fucktard....I could write better than that by the time I was seven years old.
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I'm glad I'm not gay.
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>>689197957
>libtard quoting america-hating cnn
>you never see killings like this in France or Belgium or Norway, only in America. must be our gun laws because you can't get guns in France, Belgium or Norway
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>>689202635

Obviously not all of them.
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>>689203159
holy shit! a non-American who understands?
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>>689203348
you focuse on the spelling and grammer but not the message.

you still may be 7 years old.
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Because if that happened in Texas, a state with open carry laws, that fucker would have been dead 3 minutes after he entered that fucking door. Gay people carry fire arms too.
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>>689197957
because we dont treat our citizens as criminals
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>>689201823
Meanwhile white males have been responsible for most of the mass shooting incidents.
We should deport all white males by retard logic.
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>>689202587
Do you think it's tough to need helmets and half a ton of padding to play a game? Rugby is basically the same game, just without the pansy padding.
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Why are we crediting this guy with 50 kills?

I read that he left and got into a shootout with a cop that was on scene and went back in.
Then the cops broke through a wall with a vehicle, used an explosive device, and had a shootout with him inside.

We all know how many rounds a cop shoots off when there isn't such a situation as this and we all know they don't all hit their target.

So what I'm asking is: If the cops killed 10 hostages is that on his total?

>doesn't play video games
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>>689202587
"tough guy" covered in pussy pads and has on tights
K E K
E
K
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>>689197957
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>>689202968
typical American response
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>>689197957
Are you seriously advocating that we stop Americans from dying?
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>>689202728
>underrated post
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>>689204432
underrated post :-)
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>>689202587
This is bait.
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>>689197957
Cause it's funny and I'm hoping it happens to me one day randomly secretly
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>>689204432
Kek
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>>689204096

Because America is mostly white you fucking retard.

Islam is a conquering religion, that's all it's done since the 1400s

Despite making up less than 3% of the population, they're responsible for an overwhelming majority of deaths at the hands of terrorists.
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>>689204944
>they're responsible for an overwhelming majority of deaths at the hands of terrorists.
Of course they are when you have such a retard definition of what terrorism is. The fact will remain that you are more likely to die being struck by lightning than by a terrorist.
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>>689204229
He still has the high score. White males btfo.
>dealwithit.jpg
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>>689205380

Yeah, and we should keep it that way.
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>>689204096
Virginia Tech, Fort Hood, DC Snipers, DC Naval yard, UCLA, Chattanooga, Oregon Uni, San Bernando, and now this. None of those mass shooters were white.
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>>689206279
nice circular logic
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Thank god they were only fags slaughtered.
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>>689200510
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>>689206643

Nice job completely ignoring the facts and having no response.
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>>689197957
because there was amendment made a very long time ago that was necessary during that time that never went away, now we have hardcore supporters of this amendment that dont want it taken away because they see it as if the people who want to do something will no matter what be able to get this kind of weaponry and if they have it and they are wanting to cause harm there should be people who will protect and help go against them with a decent amount of retalliation. it is also rear impossible to get all of these guns back that have already been purchased
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This is why i live in Wyoming...away from all the retards
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Islamic Terrorists in the U.K. and France are not able to jihad because guns are outlawed.
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>>689208772
Please tell me ur retarded. U can't say U don't remember ppl being killed in Paris by guns a few months ago right?
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>>689208772

>Bataclan
>Charlie Hebdo
>implying Achmeds and Habeebs all over Europe aren't stockpiling arms and ammo from the black market
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>>689208149
kek
>trading retards for anti-government wackos living on compounds filled with guns
seems like you are winning, sir
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>>689209656
Clearly you have never been to Wyomming.
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>>689197957
Because our government is objectively terrible, just like every single government since history has been recorded, you silly bitch.
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>>689197957
Why do they need 50 cops with M16's to aprehend a single white male with no priors on a traffic stop?
We need them to prevent this broken system
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because our constitution gives us that right and no one wants to get rid of it. if we ban guns outright, that sets a precedent that the constitution is not very strong, and possibly even outright wrong. then we could just as easily ban free speech, press, everything.
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>>689201747
You are absolutely retarded.
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>>689209656

Yeah, sounds good to me.

A bunch of self-reliant, religious folks who, when shit hits the fan, can take care of themselves instead of burning the neighborhood down because the EBT didn't go through.

Really high levels of social trust up there too.
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>>689210600

NO U
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>>689201747
Being more expensive to buy alone would be a good deterrent for these "types" of people. And thats not even mentioning the fact that alot of them probably wouldn't even know where to begin searching for illegal firearms.
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>>689210600
What does this pie chart even mean? Where's the source? A feminist liberal could have invented this for all I know. Where did they get the data. go to bed summer fag plox
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>>689197957
We all need cars to get places man. You are just mad you are to poor to afford one.
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>>689197957
>why do you allow your citizens to legally purchase weapons capable of killing so many?
I didn't know it was a gun that killed all those people, I thought it was a guy? Have you gone to the police with this new evidence?
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>>689197957
>Hey France, why do you allow your citizens to legally purchase weapons capable of killing so many?
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>>689209571
>>689209261
>not recognizing that he clearly posted this ironically
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>All these dumb Americans posting about the paris mass shooting

Neat. That one mass shooting in Paris somehow makes all of them that happen in America normal.
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>>689211915
OP here. Can confirm.
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>>689200126
If you have to buy guns illegally it keeps autistic fucks from shooting up schools. You can't approach a black market gun merchant like "Oy I need me some guns! Boys at school pick on me"
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>>689212202
tfw the USA has more gun mortality than the middle east
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>>689197957
Why do we allow pipe bombs and other IEDs?
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ITT: MY MASS SHOOTINGS R BETTER THAN UR MASS SHOOTINGS
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>>689212779
Is anyone claiming that though? I mean the U.S wins just by sheer volume
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>>689211915

I realized that after I replied, I thought he was implying that terror attacks in Europe are less deadly than in 'murica because of nogunz by showing the pic of the machete killer dude.
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>>689212358

>implying sociopaths who are just trying to move product give a fuck
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Damn. What a hell hole.
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>>689197957
I don't know. There isn't any justification to ending a life, I don't think guns should be so easily accessible here.
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>>689197957
guns are available just as easily in an ilegal fashion.
ask paris, see the answers they give you.
also, kill yourself you protected non life living little fuckstick boipussy.
you will save the muslim hoard a bullet.
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>>689213559
i certainly would. I'm not gonna sell q teenage artist a gun. I like being alive. Not that he would have the capital to purchase illegal firearms anyway, which would be another deterrent
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>>689213083
Not only volume but I dare say the quality of shootings is far superior to the inferior Euroshooters.
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>>689213707
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>>689213987
>illegal* guns are just as easily obtainable as legal guns

You are fucking retarded
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>>689204944

>because America is mostly white

Kek no
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>>689197957
For protection. I guarantee you the only reason that shooting had so many casualties was because the gay community is full of libtards and none of them carried a gun. They were sitting ducks.
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>>689214097
Really? Obviously you're not well versed on the most successful mass murder by breivik.... current top score holder
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>>689214051

Good job, that's why you shouldn't go into the arms trafficking business, you give a fuck.
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>>689214128
Group A
>hurr durr lets put all the blame on guns
Group B
>hurr durr lets blame everything but our lax gun laws

Both are equally dumb.
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>>689197957
the world is not ready for gay acceptance. therefore shit countries that allow themselves to be cucked(europe) or still have liberty frustration(usa) will allow idiots to promote their hate towards some..people
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>>689211847

This happens in a first world country, it's a tradgedy that prompts major security reform.

This happens in the USA on average once a month and people forget within a day or two and nothing is done about it.
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>>689197957
You're right. We should execute all Muslims on sight since they're all terrorists, right?
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>>689214622
You can't even get drugs without social skills. I doubt you'll get guns
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>>689214302
oh wow, great thing there was a typo, otherwise you woud have to actually make an argument.
great job there, you really told me.
i'm going to go pick up that AK for 200 without any serial numbers on it in the meantime from my crack dealer.
THHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAANKSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!
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>>689214128
What are you trying to prove here? Even the purely white statistic makes the U.S look pretty bad.
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>>689214128

What the heck Lithuania?!
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>>689214835
Yet our overall homicides are going down

Mass shootings are a statistical rarity, they just get more news coverage.
This latest one wasn't even a classical shooting, it was a terrorist attack. He could have used a bomb to kill people, but chose a gun instead
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>>689200126
No, it will just make it harder, moron.
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>>689197957
Hey World,

Why do you allow your citizens to enter projectiles capable of killing so many?
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>>689197957
Why are you asking me? I do t write the rules. I just live here. Also, I love fire arms. Its a shame 50 people die and this is all anyone talks about. Dont you love how people are using death to push a political agenda now?
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So Americans need more guns in order to prevent incidents like this. Seems legit.
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>>689215280
Harder for non wackos.
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>>689215258
Actually homicides are going up in many cities, but that's all from black people running rampant with democrats full backing.
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>>689214960
I am sorry. I didn't know I had to hold your hand and tell you precisely why your statement was retarded. Your two posts show that you clearly dont have the required mental capacity to see this, my bad. Anyways. It is in NO way easier to obtain guns illegally than it is to get them legally. Not only would illegal guns be more expensive, but alot of these people wouldn't even know where to start looking to obtain them.
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>>689200126
its works in the rest of the world :)
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>muslim democrat shoots up a bunch of gays
>religion of peace

You can't make this shit up.
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>>689215633

The rest of the world doesn't have a constitution :^)
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>>689215502
Since most of these guns turn out to be purchased legally, it would make it harder for everyone.
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I'm not an american and I prefer their gun politics over european retarded laws
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>>689215280

Yeah, disarm tens of millions of people to make it slightly harder for terrorists to get guns.

Motherfucking logic, brah. Tight motherfucking logic.
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>>689215633
No, it doesn't. EU is full of mafia running countries... pls.
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>>689215565
It's just niggers shooting each other
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>>689215633
Does it?
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>>689202266
not bad anders but you can't match my 168 kill streak with 600 injured
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>>689214128
lol what do you think would happen if we did the same split with any european country? It would be alot lower than the americans... Thats wrong way to show statistics.

You should show the same statistics for white race in all countrys.
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>>689214428
You can't carry guns in places that serve alcohol.
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>>689215565
>that's all from black people running rampant with democrats full backing.

Yeah and it couldn't possibly have anything to do with all of the guns going into the ghettos, or are the democrats behind that too? Do they have control or don't they? You right wingers are some real zen masters of doublethink.
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>>689215993
Source: My ass
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>>689197957
who cares. as long as there will be less faggots on the street
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>>689197957
To allow our citizens the ability to overthrow our government after the next presidential election.
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>>689215322
Because they rarely crash and serve an important purpose of transportation unlike guns which have a single purpose of inflicting harm
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>>689213707
80% of gun-related deaths are due to nignog gangs
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>>689216115
You suck the cock you get the glock.
let that be a lesson for you kids.
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>>689202770
underrated post lol
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>>689215938
>>689215011

See this, I was looking for this in my folder but couldn't find it.

That previous chart only had VICTIMS, not perps.

Whites are equally likely to be killed by other whites and blacks, so you can cut that number in half to 1.7 out of 100,000 or so
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>>689216061
Chicago is home to some of the strictest gun laws in the country. So is Baltimore
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>>689215258
>total:12,576
>firearms:8,855

This is so fucking stupid. If anything this makes guns look bad. They broke it down into different categories for firearms, but left "cutting" objects as vague as possible.
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>>689215993
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>>689216161
You're bringing guns to a drone fight
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>>689209656
feels pretty good man! Going fishing and camping in the mountains almost every weekend is awesome.
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>>689216096
exactly. america has many different problems. guns aren't one of them
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>>689216456
Even 8800 firearm deaths in a country of 320 million people and hundreds of millions of guns isn't that bad
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Anon. Why post false pictures.
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>>689204096
>Detroit
>Chicago
>white male responsible for mass shooting incidents
>white male
good one mate.
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Let's all ignore the massive Islamic elephant in the room, and do nothing about that, because God forbid someone call me racist
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>>689202770
The only thing that really piss you off is it's a Muslim who now own the record! Be honest 'Murifag.
I'm sure that some reedneck and most patriotic fellows recharge their RPG now, just because the biggest morron in America need to be an real American, don't lie we know.
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>>689215993

Rifle rounds are more deadly than pistol rounds because they have more muzzle energy, dumbass.

Not because they have "telescoping stocks" or "pistol grips" that are banned under "assault weapons" legislation.

Any semi-auto rifle in 5.56 would've had the same effect.
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>>689213707
The USA has a much bigger population than any of those countries so what's your point.
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>>689197957
hey governmentneuteredeuropussyfag, enjoy your muslim takeover.
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>>689216735

this
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>>689215466
>these people have never held or shot a gun in their lives and they never will.
on the day of the rope i will use your bodies as sandbags for the bullets in front of me, your sacrifice has been acknowledged, and i thank you sincerely.
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>>689216014
LoL whatever man, you guys are brainwashed by the NRA.

Go buy more guns to make the gun producers happier :)

If guns are not the problem why not legalize fully automatic?
I mean the bad guys have access to full auto why shouldn't regular Americans have access to it?
You will need full auto to give suppressing fire in case of attack of your home by a gang right?!
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>>689216829

It's per 100,000 dingleberry.

The problem is they're ignoring the rest of the world, and other factors besides gun laws that go into gun murder...

Like the simple fact that gun murders and gun ownership rates don't have any correlation, let alone causation.
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>>689213904
>There isn't any justification to ending a life,
So you're against capital punishment? Assisted suicide? Abortion? War?

An on that last one - war - what do you do when some enemy nation rolls in and says, "lol we invade u"? You're not justified in killing them, so do you just roll over and present your throat to be torn out?
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>>689217092
>If guns are not the problem why not legalize fully automatic?
They are legal, they're just expensive and require more paperwork

And legally obtained full autos have never been used in a crime
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>>689217092

Full autos are legal in many states, just a pain in the ass to get and very expensive.

They're pretty much useless for defense, for obvious reasons.

Even in a home invasion, it's better to take measured shots rather than dump and entire magazine.
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>>689216973
You are bringing guns to a drone fight. Let me know how that works out for you
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>>689197957
It was a Islamic terror attack. They would have got the weapons either way.
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>>689217342
Let me clarify, I don't think somebody's actions can ever justify their murder.
I am against capital punishment, and war. Assisted suicide is the choice of someone who wants to die, and I don't see abortion as ending a life.
If my country was invaded I would not kill anyone. I would do my best to hide and wait it out. In the event that I had to fight I would injure, not kill.
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>>689216973
How would you know who has and hasn't shot a gun retard?
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>>689217092
Drunk driving kills more people than guns do

Go buy more cars to make the car producers happier :)
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The best solution to this problem is to start stricter background checks. Not blame guns and trying to take guns from the people completely, that just bets purpose of the 2nd amendment.
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>>689216489
you know a drone can't do anything unless the pilot knows who to aim for. now how would they do that unless they had a list of who owns guns.

drones would only have use in states with gun registry laws and even then it would be limited use
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>>689216061
They've had the same access to guns for the past 30 years that violent crime has been dropping you fucking retard.
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>>689218034
You can't pass a background check to buy a gun if you're a felony criminal, have been convicted of domestic violence or been committed to a mental institution

Seems pretty strict enough to me
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>>689217946
Drunk driving is illegal retard
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>>689218372
So is shooting people if you don't have just cause retard
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>>689216973
lol
Here's a pic of me with my rifle in the tower when deployed to Iraq. I've probably sent more rounds down range than you ever will, buddy.
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>>689204944
You're wrong about that date buddy. Spanish Inquisition was because of the Moors, I.E. muslims. Their attacks on the Holy Roman Empire also sparked the crusades, which everyone these days just thinks it was the Pope wanting more money. It's more like 700 A.D.
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>>689216096
Also in the 70s, before mass shootings started, it was all about serial killers. These psychos would just adjust to slowly killing with knives if they couldn't get guns.
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>>689200126
>because they used guns to bring down those planes on 911 rightt?
Well, if they didn't have firearms they certainly wouldn't nearly have had as much of a chance hijacking the plane.
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>>689203154
Yeah we stole Basketball from Eurocucks
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>>689218802
They used box cutters in 9/11

Now, most pilots are armed in the cockpit
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Seems like people are more offended by the guns used than acts of Islamic Terrorism and their objective.
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>>689218641

You're right, damn.

I was thinking "1400 years ago" for some reason.
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>Legalize all military weapons
>Give everybody a portable nuclear nuke
>If a terrorist try to shoot you, blow up the entire town before he can
>America kill the terrorist
>America win
>America is great again !!!
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>>689197957
wish I had the balls to commit mass murder with two hammers
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>>689217861
But someone would have to fight for your country. Is your pacifism a personal choice, like a music preference, one which other people are free to disagree with? Or do you hold that no one should defend your [country, nation, ethnic group] when the balloon goes up?
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>>689197957

Because we can.
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>>689215993
False data, assault weapons do not exist.
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>>689219099
Nice strawman
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>>689219014
>inside job

none of that shit actually happened on the planes.
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>>689217720
>>689217908
>>689218626
your bodies will hold many bullets on my front wall, i thank you.
allahu akbar, is how i believe you people would say it.
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>>689218312
So you agree that owning guns just makes you a target then?
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>>689212358
You really think a black market dealer would give a fuck about the morale implications of selling a gun to an autist?
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>>689219115
I'm not really sure. I know that the country would need to be defended, but why kill? Who not develop weapons that incapacitate rather than ones that blow off limbs and end lives?
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>>689219368
Not if they don't know I have them :)
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>>689200126
Are you dumb? Of course it would. If he walked in there with a sword he maybe could've gotten a couple of kills before getting jumped and pinned.
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If you remove all the guns in the US but not the radical islamists or illegal immigrant population, what have you really done?
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>>689216819
lmao what?
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>>689217720
Seriously man idiots like this. If there ever was an uprising the military would split, those who side with the regime and those who side with the constitution based on the fact that all military members are sworn to protect the constitution first. We'd be bringing drones to a drone fight, tanks to a tank fight, and gorilla warfare to a fight. Course if it ever gets that bad nuclear war would quickly follow as China, Russia, NK and the secret Nazi religion based out of central EU would all try to take power.
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>>689216046
Wait how did they get shot then
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>>689219442
No but he sure as hell doesn't want to die himself after handing over that assault rifle
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>>689219588
Statistics show illegal immigrants are less likely to commit crimes (outside of being in the country illegally)
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The terrorist was an upper level security guard employed since 2007. He was cleared by rigorous background checks. It wasn't the guns, they weren't recent purchases. It was his recent indoctrination of Islamic Radicalism. His pledge to ISIL is the problem. those are the facts.
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>>689217720
>Let's level an entire suburban street to kill a guy with an AR15

Sound logic man
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>>689215258
>ignoring the 6,000 killed by handguns
Nice try anon. Handguns are easier to get than rifles
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>>689219475
Then you would have illegal firearms? Therefore making them illegal wouldn't effect you seeing as the ones you own are already illegal
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>>689219042
It's all right pal, we all get 'em wrong sometimes.
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>>689219879
Source for that?
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>>689197957
Hey Eurocurry, don't you have more pressing things to concern yourself with than American news?

>Refugee invasion
>EU debacle
>West Lothian Question
>Devolved English Parliment
>Welsh Assembly
>Zero Hour Contracts
>Mandatory National Military Service
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>>689219368
you can only be targeted by the government if there is a federal gun registry. States can counter by not making any lists or refusing to hand them over.
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>>689219712
Bullshit, the military would fallow orders like they always do
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>>689220015
>6000 mostly criminal gang bangers killed with cheap and often illegally obtained handguns in a country with 320 million people and hundreds of millions of guns

Doesn't seem that bad to me
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Funny how these same dumb americans will go in other threads claiming the EU has a muslim problem. But yet I dont see pur muslims shooting up local gay bars.
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>>689219451
>I'm not really sure.
Hey, it's good to know when you don't know. Keep thinking about it, and be sure whatever answer you come up with is both internally consistent, and works in the real world. When taken to their conclusion, your beliefs on this issue would seem to fall apart, but that's true of lots of beliefs (including, no doubt, some of mine).
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Americans are so dumb
>"I need muh guns I don't care how many people die from guns every day I just like to go to shootin ranges and hav fun"
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>>689219814
lolololololololool

terrible bait
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Why do more people die by guns per capita in the U.S than other countries?
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>>689219510
>fags
Would have probably thought it was some sort of sex thing and jumped on the sword in some sort of fetish wear, rather than actually defend themselves.
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>>689220348
Luckily we have someone trying to ban Muslims, not welcoming them with open arms to kill us and rape our women
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facts are irreverent. ban guns - he would not have shot people. ban radical Islam and he would not have wanted to destroy a group of infidels that got the peace they deserve.
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>>689220304
You realize that you only reiterated his point with your comment? kek
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>>689220118
Fantastic sidestep there murrifat.
The sandniggers are already in your "country", and they have more readily available weapons there, than in Iraq.
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>>689220452
How about the millions of people saved by guns every year?
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>>689220040
No, the US gov is actually prohibited from keeping a registry of gun owners. There are tons of legally-owned firearms the gov knows nothing about. And for exactly this reason.
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>>689220345

Look how many people die from falls.

We need common sense stair control NOW

Nobody needs more than 30 steps, like, c'mon. Get one of those lifty things. Buy an elevator, jeez.
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Hey French People,

When will you learn that making guns available to your citizens isn't the answer?
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>>689220516
see
>>689217253

Why do people drown more often when they are near swimming pools?
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>>689207527
This
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>>689220466
>being this retarded
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>>689220304
>hurr yup! Time to turn my arms against the people I love. I"ll blindly follow those orders because I have no capacity for thought.

Really dude? Really? Did you even think that one over? Fuck man most people in the military hate the current administration already. I work and went to school with dozens that have views different from my own but all of them hate how the country is and blame it on the last three administrations.
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>>689220362
I suppose I'll have to do that. There's always going to be that odd circumstantial stuff that makes it difficult so say you shouldn't ever kill. As wrong as it feels to type that out.
But especially in war, I can't help but think that maybe killing soldiers and civilians is what keeps the war going. A child loses their father and grows a hatred for the country where he died, the hate only spreads through death.
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>>689197957
guns don't kill people, mentally ill people do. And I honestly don't care because now we have 50 less faggots in the world.
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>>689197957
who gives a shit?

there's over 300 million people in this country. No one other than the family of those lost and the media care about what happened. You do know other countries are way more fucked right?
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>>689199269
Finally someone else is willing to talk about the spelling epidemic
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>>689220638
It's not a sidestep, it's more of a plea. It's not like Americans are jumping on international flights just to come knock the cocks out of your mouths, so mind your own business and let the superpowers of the world do their thing.
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If it wasn't a gun, it would have been a pressure cooker or some other IED.

Here's the real question:
Why are liberals so insistant on forcing incompatible cultures together, then blaming straight white men when things invariably go to shit?
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>>689220988
But a totalitarian US gov can easily get around that obstacle by deploying, e.g., the Ohio Nat. Guard to "pacify" California, the Kansas Nat. Guard to occupy South Carolina, etc. Then it's not the soldier's own community, it's "these weirdos out here."
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>>689221252

Are you 12?
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>>689221114
yeah... with guns
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>>689200126
Terrorists outside the country are another issue. If crazy white people and muslims only had access to knife or fucking spears do you think they could kill 50+ people before cops arrived?
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>>689219911
Keep trying to cling to the idea that you have power. I bet guns make you feel like you can take down any threat huh. Must be tough feeling so scared and helpless all the time. If the government decided to turn on its citizens you would all die simple as that. They have way more destructive power then a few puppies holding onto their rifles.
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>>689216819
Are you just mad people don't like mudslimes? Have they any reason not too?
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Spelling.. lol this is 4chan not a Medical Journal.
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>>689221383
>short answer? because they need a "bad guy" to justify their existence.
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>>689212202
Isn't the french flag all white?
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>>689221509
no
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>>689220800
France is next to other countries, unlike the US. This allows trafficking guns to France easier, so your argument is invalid.
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>>689220988
Jesus Christ. It wouldn't happen overnight. There would be a level of propaganda involved, a certain type of person would be targeted. Basically it would be nazi Germany's all over again. And what did they say when all was said and done "I was just following orders"
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>>689221754
you just validated anons comment
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>>689221429
Yeah, still wouldn't work. You're basis this assumption on the idea that the states all hate each other and will be happy to wipe each other out or occupy each other without thought. Man really don't have a clue how the human mind works, do you?
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>>689221754
Because Canada and Mexico are considered the hat and underwear of the US? Your argument is fucking retarded.
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>>689221615
>If the government decided to turn on its citizens you would all die simple as that
You're assuming the actual soldiers would follow orders to fire on their neighbors. Most of them would tell the higher ranked to get fucked

Also you seem weirdly ok with having a super powerful government be able to destroy it's citizens you fucking fascist
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Cucks
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>>689216819
Don't be a hater. High scores are made to be broken. We should be inspired Allahu Omar. Happenings like this don't happen everyday. Oh wait, they do.
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>>689221754
please be b8. plz.
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>>689221754
>unlike the US
We have Canada and Mexico. And isn't it illegal to traffic firearms into countries? That should stop criminals right? Since it's against the law?
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>>689222150
Oh I was a new voice in the discussion, just pondering one way a jackbooted tyranny could lower the barrier of reluctance a bit.
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>>689222224
I doubt they would ever try to kill all American citizens. Again they would focus on a certain type of person to be their target, demonize them, and then send out their military dogs
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>>689221754
Careful...
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>>689215633
even Paris
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>>689222581
That's not the same.
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>>689222830
>they would focus on a certain type of person to be their target
What type of people? Gun owners? Most soldiers are gun owners themselves and value other people's rights
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>>689222093
Dude, we went from outright rebellion against a dictatorship to subterfuge and propaganda. There is a major difference, and I believe it would be caught on well before the U.S. changed in a way that would lead to the government being able conduct it's soldiers to fire mercilessly on the U.S. population. In fact in the constitution the U.S. military has no actual right to conduct operations in the U.S. They circumvent this by using cloak and dagger "This operation was under the leadership of the CIA" bullshit.

The national guard is capable of acting because they classify it as a militia. If the U.S. military would have started doing operations without restriction through the U.S., the citizenry would wise up real quick.
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>>689223040
How so?
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>>689221275
I WILL END THIS HORRID TIRADE BROUGHT ON US BY IMBECILES WHO LACK THE CAPABILITY OF USING A SPELL CHECK OF ANY KIND WHEN UNSURE ABOUT THEIR ABILITIES.
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>>689222802
Ahh gotcha. I still don't think its possible. The national guard hasn't been led to occupation of an entire state before, small zones for protection and disaster, yes, but an entire state? Something would be seriously wrong with those orders.
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>>689210976
And what happens when we have a knife murder epidemic? You are completely retarded, banning guns will accomplish nothing. You will just make them find different means to murder instead of sending them to mental institutions.
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dubs get
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>>689215629
>illegal guns cost more.
no, the opposite actually.
>it's harder to get llegal guns
also no, YOU are just a little tight pussy, who needs a good fucking.
the real world is not a place for you.
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>>689210976
Considering more people defend themselves with guns every year than commit crime with them, poor people shouldn't be able to buy affordable guns to protect themselves and their families?
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>>689223098
us has walls in its borders. france etc don't
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYFN6seSBSo
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dubs
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>>689223328
Yeah. Because other countries have mass knife slaughter epidemics right? If this guy walked into that gay bar with a knife he would have still been able to kill 50 people and wound 50 more before police arrived right?
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>>689223076
>The national guard is capable of acting because they classify it as a militia.

Also the Militia Act of 1903 defines every able-bodied man of at least 17 and under 45 years of age to be militia also, so welcome aboard soldier.
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>>689202770
American Dream, 2016 : 173 mass shooting in 163 days

>Still allowing guns

Kek
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>>689204120
No, they're different. I've played both. Rugby is more of a rough, gritty game. However American football has harder hitting due to instances where you have more ground the cover and therefore have a running start. American football players are generally bigger, faster a stronger. If they played the way they play WITHOUT helmets people would be dying on the field.
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>>689215633
Oh yeah those laws totally stopped the assualt on charlie hebdo and paris.
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>>689197957
>Implying terrorist and criminals buy their guns legally and not black market.
Guns are registered so they leave a mark on bullets to know who shot, criminals get guns on the black market, so changing rules will do nothing, expecially if it lowers money income, nobody wants less money
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dubs get s
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>>689223630
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>>689223630
>us has walls in its borders
Only in certain portions, but for the most part it's open
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>>689223870
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>>689223885
Finally someone says it. I got swept up in the guns vs. drones fight so I didn't get to that point. Rugby and football are completely different. Rugby you grapple, football you charge and throw to the ground.
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>>689223630
not really.
then we couldn't smuggle arms to poor countries like Mexico.
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>>689215629
nice ad hominem there friend
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>>689224167
>Guns are registered so they leave a mark on bullets to know who shot
The rifling leaves marks on the rounds, but that's it. They can identify the model of firearm that shot it, but not the actual one
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>>689210600

>Percentage of defenders firing guns in defensive situations
>76% did not fire gun
>defenders firing guns
>did not fire gun

WTF?
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>>689224716
A gun doesn't have to be fired in order to be used defensively

Simply having it or displaying it diffuses situations in the majority of cases
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