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what's being married like? Is it what you expected? How often do you fuck? Regrets?
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I will get married in 10 days.
Let's see.
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>>687448475
10 years married.
Weekly sex
Second round would legally be rape.
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Married almost five years.

Yeah it's kinda what I expected. Someone to do fun stuff with. Companionship. A dual income is fucking awesome.

But the sex sucks. Chicks apparently get boring after they get married.
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Been married 5 years. Get sex about once a week.
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Latino married to Murican here. She works and Im the stay at home dad who has an online business. She has a Master's and I don't, sex is awesome (she was too into books and weed), fell for me, everybody wins. This married life is awesome.
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>>687448475
married 20 years. Sex was insane right up until we had kids. At that point the whole relationship circled the drain hard. All we did was work and raise kids. Now they are moving off to college and we can spend time together we have found that we both have changed in 20 years and have nothing in common. So now we both live in the same house and share the same bed but other than that we dont talk to each other. Both of us are old and our bodies are wrecked so neither one of us would reenter the dating scene anyways so we just stay together so we dont have to pay a lawyer and we dont have to live alone.

It really is no wonder the white race is dying out considering how hard society has made it to properly raise children.
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>>687448475
the whole things a retarded autistic sham sorry not sorry

its not even on the right side ur hearts on the right...
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Married 9 Years, got 1 Kid.
Fuck whenever we feel like it, min 5 times a week.
She still sucks cock like a Champ.

tfw I'm loaded and look like a young Jason Statham.
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>>687450160
>Second round would legally be rape.
?
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>>687451181
>tfw there are thousands of couples exactly like you.
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>>687451894
Basically this. But been married 11 years.

And i dont look like Jason nor am i rich
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>>687451181
Then do something new together, like a hobby or watching mutually enjoyed movies. Why do millions of people accept mediocracy like this? Do you just became jaded?
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>>687451181
buy a gun
form a militia
maintain a decent level of health and fitness
encourage others to do likewise
study the arcane arts & classics
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>>687451181
Yep.
This is exactly what I fear
Like
Do I kill myself now when I'm young, or do I do it when I'm 40 years old and immensely hurt my children and wife
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>>687451181
>Both of us are old
You're like what, around 50 something? Better to divorce now and find someone new to die with
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>>687452625
>form a militia
>study arcane arts
I agreed with most of your post but not really sure what you're on about
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>>687452868
do magic and make robots
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>>687452626
Why not just not have kids? Being DINKs (Dual Income, No Kids) is fucking awesome.
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never do it.marriage is for assholes and dumbshits.
it is an economic albatross.It will end,dont fewl urself and when it does revenge for her being a cunt,whore and sociopathic lamprey she then gets your money.
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>>687448475
>Extend your arm and make a fist
>Bring it high up over your head
>Slam it into your nuts
>Repeat

That's marriage
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if dubs you all get a divorce
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>>687452962
So did one girlfriend break up with you in high school and now you are as bad as those "all men are pigs" girls? Who hurt you, anon?
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>>687448475
Married 6 years together 10 years. We are best friends. Sex weekly and I blow him in between. We have 2 kids the eldest has autism. They are 5 and 3 years old. Things can be tough with both of us working and raising kids. I got post natal depression but he is an awesome husband and father.

You need to find someone you can honestly be yourself with. We both have the same sense of humor and we get each other.
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> how do i greentext?
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>>687448475
Married 6 years. Shit's pretty good, not that different from being in a long-term monogamous dating relationship where you live together and share expenses though. We fuck less often but I blame that more on the kids being constant cock-blocks than on the marriage itself.
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>>687451181

You have made that choice anon. You are responsible for your happiness, engage her in the process of fixing your relationship. Put her needs above yours, focus on her and you will get returns ten fold. Find a good MFT, even though your kids are out of the house, they still need a mom and dad.
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>>687452917
Can the militia consist of robots? There's already a militia in my area but they are weird as fuck and psychotic

Or are we making more /r9k/ users?
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>>687453362
Tits or gtfo
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>>687453682
>There's already a militia in my area but they are weird as fuck and psychotic
do they wear blue uniforms and call themselves cops?
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>>687453787
Sorry buddy.
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>>687453269
Judging from his post it was probably a divorce you underage tard. Not everything relates to high school
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>>687453864
Im not your buddy. Pal
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>>687454114
He's not your pal, friend.
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>>687454114
Okay mate.
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>>687452725
nah. finding someone else aint gonna happen. Even if we werent old my back is fucked bad and having kids fucking destroyed my wife's body i mean shes in shape but god damn she looks like someone took a chainsaw to her gut.

>>687453570
We dont hate each other we just dont have anything in common any more. She likes to shop and go out partying particularly to the casino and i picked up video games years ago because they were cheap and i could stay home with the kids and still have something to do.

We are kind of like room mates now and its not too bad just next to no pussy but my dick hardly works anymore anyways. Its best we just stay together. It makes the kids happy too.
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>>687453911
Nah. I agree with the first guy. Kinda. Most of those MFGTOW (or whatever the hell it is) are just jaded neckbeards who can't get any.

They are like the guys who claim it's because they are religious that they don't get laid.
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>>687454326
Dude, your life reminds me of the movie American Beauty. Like literally Kevin Spacey to the max.
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>>687454114
>>687454114
You guys are gay.
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being married is like

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>>687454550
Some military guy's gonna kiss him, then shoot him in the head to keep him quiet.
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>>687454798
Hope not. That was a shit way to go out.
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>>687448475
It better than it is shit, and far superior to being single.
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>>687453861
>found the nig nog/liberal arts kid
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>>687454326

So you're the "do the right thing" kind of guy, let me tell you, and you should probably know this by now, if your wife was in the same circumstances as you but was good looking enough to attract some thirsty chump, she would have dumped you already, fuck the kids, fuck you and fuck everything, my feelings, my life.

Sometimes i think the only thing keeping women from sluting out 24/7 is that they age and get ugly.
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I was married for six months.
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>>687448475
Wife & I are fitfags, been married 23 years, & bone regularly (3-5 times week), but we're the only couple we know that does. But we also went through the phase of "spicing it up" with 3somes, swaps, etc, when our friends didnt & just went cold & became resentfu. I dont know any of them that are "happily married". Whenever we get together all they talk about is how miserable they've been for years but cant get out of their arrangements due to money/kids/age.

Anecdotal, as is all of this, but there you go.
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>>687448475
Been married 5 years. Sex could happen multiple times a week if I wasn't so fuckin' lazy. On a surprise note, my wife gives amazing head now. She has gradually gotten better over time and is amazing right now. She gives head every time we fuck.
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>>687455113
That's all? What killed it?
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Don't get married. Ever. I'm an oldfag (37). Married for 14 years now. Two kids.

Married too young. Should've waited until I was near 30. Then I would've been wiser and known not to do it.

To borrow and modify a line from the movie Office Space.

So I was sitting in my cubicle today, and I realized, ever since I got married, every single day of my life has been worse than the day before it. So that means that every single day that you see me, that's on the worst day of my life.

I will admit it has been getting a bit better. The last half of 2015 had less than 25% of the normal level of stress. 2016 has also been a bit better, but not great.

We had one good three month stretch in 2013. That was pretty good.. we both had never been so happy before or since. Unfortunately that won't be happening again.

Now, at 37, I'm disappointed each morning when I take my blood pressure medication knowing that it'll only extend the agony out longer.

We've had a few things in common before. I can remember at least three or four times where we had a common interest for a few months. Those were kind of nice.

Now I stay at work for hours longer than necessary avoiding going home because I know all that waits for me there is the chance to have just a tiny bit more of my soul consumed by 'The Battle Axe'.

Why not leave? My son wouldn't even consider staying with her. He'd choose me instantly. My daughter tries her hardest to keep things fair and would stay with M'thalgorath the Destroyer of Hope. I'd rather continue to look forward to death each day than have to go without seeing my daughter.

M'thalgorath is also working her way through college. How terrible of a person would I have to be to just abandon her in the middle of that?

The morning after the last child leaves home we will go visit a divorce lawyer.

tl;dr My life sucks, learn from my pain and stay single.
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>>687448475
>35 years old
>married to 32 Catholic school teacher
>sex is constant / 4-5 times a week
>we have 2 kids and we still fuck non-stop
>marriage is great so far (9 years)
>wife doesn't bitch when I go to parties or strip clubs, etc.
>feels goodman.jpg
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>>687451181
youve found someone you're comfortable with and you can trust to be able to sort things out with when they get weird or bad. maybe its gotten boring now. deep friendships get lost and boring sometimes. maybe now's the time to sit down, talk, find out who she is now. let her find out who you are now. if you guys don't know who you are, that's cool too. youve got at least one more adventure to go on together. see where it takes you.
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>>687455246
shit man. I know a lot of people like you and sorta feel sorry for you. Sounds like you married the wrong person. Or she did...
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been together for 7 years, married for 3. Everything's nice. No bitching
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>>687452927
Mm, but where do I find a girl with life goals that doesn't want kids
Its nigh impossible
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>>687455246
>The Battle Axe
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>>687455217
Long story to be honest but I caught her fucking my best of over 15 years ago was also my best man at the wedding
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Disclaimer: I have literally no life experience.
In any case, if you consider marriage a bet, it's not a very good one. On the off chance you are a perfect match and will remain one for the rest of your lives, is the simple formality of marriage really a crucial part of your shared happiness?
And in the more likely event of you growing apart over time, as many anons here pointed out, what advantage does a legal tie between you confer?
I hope I won't be coaxed into marriage because as it stands it sounds like a terrible deal.
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>>687455367
This is what happens when you marry the right person. All these dumbfags in here who rushed into marriage or married the wrong person only have themselves to blame. I'm like you anon. Wife is cool as fuck when it comes to going out and strip clubs. We fuck a lot still, as well.
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>>687448475
Been married 5 years. It's honestly much better than people make it seem. It's definitely hard work so if you're a selfish dick who's just looking to get guaranteed sex and don't want to make sure the relationship is strong, just don't get married. Kids make things harder, and yes the sex suffers after kids. But I love my kids and raising them is hella fulfilling so I wouldn't trade it for better sex. I just wouldn't. I still get laid about once a week and it's still decent. Marriage is worth it in my opinion.
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>>687450676

Not mine, mate. I'm almost nine years married, with her for another nine years before that, and our sex life just keeps getting better. She's into anal and fisting now and we fuck at least three times a week even though she's pretty busy.

Of course, not wanting or having kids is a major factor.
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>>687455744
Agreed
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>>687450676
agreed. When you have kids it gets even less if you don't have any already. I will say having a family you realize how much time you wasted on trivial things
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>>687455162
Fitfags are more likely to keep doing teh sexo, cause 1, your libido is a result of your body being functionally healthy as you get older, 2, exercise & just being physically active people, makes you horny, 3, not being a disgusting blob makes you not avoid it.

>fit
>=
>sex

Figure it out fagets
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>>687455648

I found one. I hit the lottery, I know.
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>>687455732
Judging by your ridiculous post, you'll never even have to worry about being coaxed into the sack by anyone. Your neckbeardery is of epic proportions.
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I interact very little with ppl and had one gf that didn't put out because she was saving herself for marriage. I'm actually relieved that i never got married or had kids. I literally live for myself, now. There is nothing a wife can give you that that the internet cannot.
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>>687456016
Lucky man
Proud of you
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>>687455534

>wrong person

That's another myth, women change, the person you dated is not the same person you marry.
And i don't mean small changes, i mean completely different personality. It's like they keep the mean, bitchy and callous parts all warped up ready to spring 1-5 years after the paper is signed.
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Married 11yrs, spouse is a heroin addict, pray I just find 'em dead one day, kill me....
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>>687455246
Man that sucks .....reading your story really makes me sad and I wish and truly hope that, maybe, just maybe...things will turn out "alright" for you two. Reading your text however tells me that there is no hope left. You shouldn't force yourself to stay with her, although, you are a brave man and I am happy to hear that your kids are first priority. I wish you all the best for the future and stay safe.
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>>687455914
So does a death of a parent.

And it only makes you miserable for 2 years, not 27.

dying parent>having kids
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>>687455246
33. thought i'd be smart and wait to marry till about now. said no to someone incredible because i wasnt sure i was mature enough to be a family man yet. she's moved on and now when i look around, all the single women my age are either fucked up from an ugly divorce, wanting an instant mindless sperm-donor to get their baby, or just sullen as sullen and world-weary as i am.

you guys can have all the 18-27 year olds you want. those girls love drama and insanity like a fat kid loves cake.

anyway, hug your wife oldfag. there's an alternate reality where you're me and getting to think that maybe your ship sailed.
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>>687450160
>this

And it's usually on a weekend morning. It's basically one of those let's get this over with kinda things. Get on, get a nut, get off me
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>>687455246
I share your pain anon....
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>>687454475
>MFGTOW (or whatever the hell it is) are just jaded neckbeards who can't get any.
I'm sure that is the case, not denying it, but the alumn and friends I have who seem to follow it (whether they know what MFGTOW is or not) do get laid and have girlfriends or fwb who work full-time. As a cohort many of us studied law and statistics (including alimony laws, rates of women starting domestic assaults v. the man being arrested/charged, etc) and I heard how their moms went batshit nuts when divorcing their dads (and maybe again with a stepdad they got along with). I can't speak for neckbeards or Japs but if the second-wave feminism laws that let women get sue happy for money that's not theirs would be thrown out, I honestly don't think it would have a footing.

I'd just go with a carefully laid out pre-nup but then again my mom is relatively sane and my ex's and I stay on good terms until we lose contact

>>687456216
Christ. Sorry to hear that
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>what's being married like?
For me, it's like hanging out with my hot best friend every day (almost 18 years)

>Is it what you expected?
No, I never thought I would be satisfied with one person or that I would have a particularly good marriage really.

>How often do you fuck?
Still quite often (we are old)....two times a week, maybe? If she is on the rag, or I am tired, she will suck on my balls while jerk it and then she will swallow it down.

>Regrets?
None
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>>687455648
Not in my social circle... No girl I know wants kids. They are all career-types.
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>>687453211
Underrated post
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>>687456141
People also change after having kids. Lack of sleep, knowing you care for someone as much as them, idk, but I have seen my friends lives change and they get divorced. Mine got better after my kiddo was born. It meant we get to spend more time as a family and plan things together. When you do get married, make sure to plan things and remember that both of you will have to work on cleaning and caring for your home regardless if it is an apartment or house. I will say don't go and buy a home immediately before getting married. I suggest getting an apartment.
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4+ years together anons, thinking of having a kid in 2 years, not rushing into marriage. Any protips ?

Both are in our early to mid 20s currently btw
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>>687456060
It is? All I see is a guy taking a logical look at the reality of it. If more people thought through their major life decisions theyd realize it;s not for them and we wouldnt perpetuate this unbelievably disasterous societal mating ritual that ruins millions of peoples lives every year.

Yeaah, craaaazy.
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Question for you fags: friend of mine, married for 6 years, two kids, whenever he's away for business he gets a massage with happy ending. Is he cheating?
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>>687456755
How old are you? You wouldn't be the first anon to say that about female friends in their 20's or early 30's
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>>687455732
You don't have to be the "perfect match". Marriage isn't a game where you roll the dice and hope you got I right, and then if you happen to "grow apart" you pull the plug. That's just what divorced losers say as an excuse for their lack of effort. Everyone grows apart naturally. Everyone gets sick of each other. Everyone looks less attractive over time. Everyone gets complacent. The trick isn't hoping these things never happen, it's combatting them. Love isn't some accidental thing that happens when 2 "compatible" people accidentally find each other. It's something that you DO on purpose every day for your spouse. I firmly believe anyone could marry just about anyone else on the planet and make it a success, because it's not a lottery, it's just hard work.
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>>687448475
It depends on who you marry. If you marry the right girl it's great. Nice been married almost 21 years and our relationship and the sex have never been better.

Some of my friends didn't choose as well as I did and those bitches made heir lives a living hell.
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>>687456902
Are you happy with her? Still look forward to seeing her? Have you seen her around kids?
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>>687453362
>>687453362
Also add I hate drama. If we have a problem we talk it out. That's not saying we never fight but we always deal with it.

All my friends that are married and have problems with their husbands are always the first on facebook to post some vague passive aggressive status about it.
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>>687449987
23 days here
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>>687456979
Unless his wife knows agrees he can do it, yes.
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>>687448475
married 5 years, fuck about 2x a week. No regrets. Have 2 great kids whom I adore. Try to teach them to laugh and have a fucking sense of humor.

My parents were complete assholes and abusive to me. Because of that I waited a long time to get married. Did not want to have their same horrible marriage, or be that kind of asshole to my children. Waiting was worth it.

I'm not perfect and won't raise perfect kids. But they won't have what I have . . . I still wake up in the night angry about what my parents did to me to humiliate me when I was just a little kid.
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>>687457132

Yes to all of these
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>>687450160
>>687450676
>>687451117
people unwilling to find the problems in heir mairrage
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>>687455246
It's like you're living my fucking life
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>>687457246
Sounds like a good start to me - old guy
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>>687455703
Damn bro, that's really fucked up. I'm sorry to hear that. You managed to bounce back from it?
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im 21, gf is 24 and she keeps nagging be about when are we going to get married. to be honest, a few months ago i was about to propose to her but latelly, she has began acting distanced and avoiding sex over dumb reasons. ive began considering not marrying her and see how it goes in the future. she also really wants us to have a baby but i havent even graduated yet. any tips?
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>>687457292
>person unwilling to consuder that marriage itself is the problem for 57% of people
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>>687456992
31
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>>687457407
no I'm in an asylum, managed to sneak a nextel flip phone with WAP in tho, meds later...
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>>687456979
>>687457231
she has no idea. It's just a hand job man
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>>687456347
So you are saying not to have kids? I have lost everyone but my parents in my family. I have watched one of my good friends die 10 ft from me. I find my child running and hugging me each day looking up and smiling at me when they get home to be nothing but happiness. To say you hated your child for 27 years is brutal and honestly would you actually tell them that life would have been better without them? That your grandparents death was less pain than you being here? That's just sad, I hope that what ever happened between you two can be reconciled. I don't know if I could live knowing my parents hated me for all these years. It means that their life is really just a lie
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>>687457444
Tell her to borrow one and see if she still thinks its a good idea.
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>>687457292
Or it just starts to matter less... I've got shit to do.
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>>687455744
>>687455880
Question: Why get married? I'm personally extremely reluctant to go there, and would get an ironclad prenup (prenups in my country aren't thrown away willy nilly), because I just don't see a good point in doing it. Was it the ceremony and the message to the world that you chose each other?
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>>687455648
Just live on your own.
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>>687457444
>21
too young to marry. Single here though, just an opinion. You should spend your 20s fucking around, doing drugs etc, not raising kids
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Married for 10 years,
Sex almosr every day(except shark week), she cums buckets.
Marry a true latina, they are great cooks and love sex, white girls or black girls are lame and lazy.
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>>687456060
>not accepting the merit of marriage at face value
>neckbeard
Okay then
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>>687457444
Yikes, this worries me, man.

Using sex as a weapon (or at least a manipulation tool) this early is probably not a good sign.

DEFINITELY don't have a baby with her right now, geez.
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>>687457563
If you can't tell her about it it's cheating
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>>687457444
>Trips...don't do it
>32 year old fag here married 8 years

You don't have a fucking clue what you want in life or in a person for the rest of your life at this point. Shit is gonna change a whole hell of a lot between now and 30. The bitch you marry today will become someone you can't stand in a few years because you're going to be different people by then. If I could go back and tell 21 year old me anything it would be to wait and let shit play out. Then I would know that the hot 24 year old chick I married would turn into a bitter, resentful, depressed, terrible fucking human being. Don't be like all the people in this thread anon. You will get married and have kids. No matter how much you hate the bitch you will love the kids and not want to put them thru tearing their lives apart. So you will drag this out for very long miserable years.
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>>687457846
you married?
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>>687457578
lol
This is teenage girls idea of what having kids is about.

Enjoy growing up, and fucking up your lives and your kids lives, and realizing your mistake is the same stupid mistake we all make, and only learn when its too late.
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>>687457444
Find a new gf.
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>>687457444
Dump her and wait until you find someone younger than you. Girls expire early with few exceptions.
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>>687456141
>myth
you fucking knobhead
everyone's story is different, yet I can tell you must not have been honest with each other if you're that buttmad
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>>687455039
>liberal arts
>literal autist
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>>687457928
Almost 21 years
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>>687456767
overrated response
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>>687448475
I always tell my younger friends that the secret to marriage is getting to know the other person 24/7 for at least a year. In other words FUCKING LIVE TOGETHER. You need to be around her at her worst and she needs to be around you at your worst. Your marriage is going to be a miserable existence if you bite the bullet only to realize that you can't stand the way she chews her food in private with only you around. Or how she has random bouts of hysteria because she comes from a long line of psychotic women.

IF YOU SURVIVE ALL OF THIS and still want to be around each other, then the marriage will probably be okay.

Sex has been this way for me: young (up to around age 25) would fuck at least 4-5 times a week, almost daily. 25-29 : too fucking busy with work, career social shit, etc - fucking about 2 times a week. Now that I'm turning 30 and she's turning 31, we've been fucking A LOT. The other day we fucked twice and I got head at the end of the day too. I think women definitely get hornier as they get older.

Hope this helps, anon. Been married going on 5 years now but have been living with her for 7.
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>>687448475
39 yr old fag here

>string of gf's through my 20's
>meet a girl, she's dope af
>asks me to marry her after a couple years
>do it cause I loved her
>didn't work out
>divorced after a couple years
>niether of us wanted to be married in the first place, was just a bad choice

Got lucky, no kids, we were working pro's and liked money and trips to europe and stuff. Never again.
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>>687454326
I am admittedly biased because I suck with relationshipa buy if she parties all the time in casinos while you play video games your not afraid she is getting fucked by dudes she clicks with at parties?
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>>687456979
fucking obviously
it's one thing to have a open non monogamous marriage, but that's cheating
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>>687457677
If you're going to commit to someone, do it in the most committed way possible. Refusing to get legally married or signing a prenup is setting the whole thing up for failure from the start. If you went to buy a house and the builder said "look I didn't plan this very well nor did I pull any of the legal permits, so here's a contract saying I'm not responsible when it inevitable falls down in 8 years. Please sign." Are you going to live in that house? No... so if you're gonna get married, do it right and plan for it to succeed.
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>>687457897
well, we've been together for 1.5 years now and she has changed abit.... sex is getting less and less each month and i fucking love sex with her.
>>687458079
she doesnt look like 24 though. more like 20 or 18... shes my first gf, i lost my virginity to her and i dont think i will be getting another gf in my life (sadly)
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>>687457480
cool story faggot
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>>687455246
>Now I stay at work for hours longer than necessary avoiding going home because I know all that waits for me there
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>>687457631
lol k good luck with the guilt on your death bed
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>>687458489
If you got her you can get another. Remember you're love blind right now. If you split you'll see her for who she really is.
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>>687455860
>anal and fisting
You'll be getting your diaper experience sooner or later then
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My wife fucks every day. Me, once a week.
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>>687453211
Lost
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>>687458489
Just get the fuck out of there trust me she is going to make your life a living hell
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>>687451181

Show her your loli/Shota stash. No doubt that'll spark a conversation
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>>687458489
>not married
>early 20s
>sex is getting less and less

Nigga do you need a road map? Run! I'm not saying end it all now but it's gonna end at some point and just let that naturally take its course. Do not marry her
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>>687456359
Why in god's name would a man date his own age after age 30? Why aren't you slaying 25yo pussy?
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>>687458143
happily married?
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>>687457789
Yeah anon. You should never think about the things you do. Just be a mindlless drone and do whatever your church or state tells you, or worse, do whatever your parents did that the church or state told them to a generation ago.

This way, humanity never learns anything and never improves and stays fucked in the head forever. But at least you won't be neckbeard.
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>>687454275

Hey your not telling him nothing guy.
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>>687458979
>a man
good luck with the self hatred simple faggot
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>>687458379
just a handjob man?
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>>687448475
married a year, together 10 years. sex 2-3 times a week, A lot more chill than i expected. Nice to have someone to come home to
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>>687448475
Been married for 8.5 years, together for ~12. 4 kids, 6 figures (in America, bretty gud).
Fuck between 3-6x/week, deepthroat, anal, spanking, whatever we're in the mood for.
I just quit my job to go back to school and she's paying for it.
Life's good, but I know we're the exception to the rule.
Enjoy titties of proof.
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>>687459035
>he doesn't know what meme arrows mean
I'll give you a hint: I wasn't saying that I believed you should accept marriage without critical thought
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>>687458925
Kekd
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Context is everything but 30 something is soon enough for kids. But you know best yourself anon
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>>687448475

it sucks
been married for 7 years
2 kids

used to fuck 10 - 20 times a week. now maybe twice a month.

it sucks
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>>687459196
>of proof.
need timestamp for that
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>>687459196

The amount of bullshit in this post exceeds all scales of measurement.
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If you enjoy sex, don't get married. I don't know any married men who are satisfied with their sex lives.
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>>687451722
are you a fucking 13 year old autist? Who the fuck says "sorry not sorry" and contributes to society?
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>>687459179
you're the one asking so many questions, doesn't it seem like youre guilty minded

also any one sneaking around like that has plans to either keep doing it or push it further
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>>687458833
>>687458949
if i leave her now she will be crushed. she is really emotionally attached to me. at this point im hoping she dumps me. there are also quite alot of negative things about her but i blame myself because im not a man enough to tell her what to do and what not to do
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>>687458405
>Refusing to get legally married or signing a prenup is setting the whole thing up for failure from the start.
What an absurdly stupid way to view it. It's more like buying a house and not insuring it because "we don't want to set it up for failure". Things might change. The house might catch fire, or catch rot, or go insane, or have corpses buried in the cellar.

You can stick marriage up your pooper. If there are no other benefits than legally expressing your love for someone, I don't need it.
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>>687459570
Don't live your life for other people.
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>>687456689
Thanks buddy...they didn't start out an addict, ya know?? And I still do love the person underneath the addiction, but this was definitely something I never expected....sigh...
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>>687459559
I'm just a lonely drunk OP man
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>>687459196
lol tit repost makes this so autism casual
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>>687458514
>livespans 3x longer, marriage durations 5x shorter
>completely ethically unjustifiable historically
>still unethical as fuck in modernity
>ruins spouses lives permanently
>ruins kids development
>divorce rate 57%

>its not my ideology thats the problem, its everyone elses problem for not living up to it

Cool story bro yourself.
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>>687459202
i thought it was agreeing with you
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>>687459833
>cannot into maymay arrows
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>>687459709
no you're addicted, you should tell your wife dog
cheating is so let always a symptom for larger problems
see if therapy might help/ hit the gym and the books nigga
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>>687453211
lmao, haven't loled this hard for a long time,
thanks anon
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>>687459433
Not my tits, my wife's, saved on computer. Can't timestamp an old photo.

>>687459445
Say what you like, it's not bullshit.

>>687459728
I've posted the photo before, but I've never seen it reposted. If you have it saved, then props to you.

Here's another pic that I don't think I've posted before.
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>>687448475
Married almost ten years
Still try to fuck daily, with oral usually filling the days we can't have sex (oral because she does me, I do her). No regrets, things have turned out better than expected.
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>>687459732
just because dumbasses get married too doesn't mean it doesn't work for those who want it to.

also the unethical shit is stupid as fuck, you need it for insurance
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>>687457808
This.
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>>687459948
>tell your wife dog
>cheating is so let always a symptom for larger problems
wtf are you talking about?
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>>687452962

Two of my exes hated kids. After this highly educated hottie atm who told me she's infirtile. She already has an income in real estate, making about as much as me, and shes not even done with her education.

Seems like a fucking winner. Met her at the gun range, how fucking awesome is that. She also hates arab immigrants, which is fine by me.

Also, fuck having kids. Who cares about the future generations anyways. Ill be long dead before the muslims come to power anyways.
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>>687459908
Greentext is for quotes. ...loosely extended to paraphrasing.

They are not "maymay arrows" you fucking noob.
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>>687448475
Was married for five years, hated the person it made me become, finally admitted to my wife I no longer loved her and we broke up, luckily we had no children and the sale of the house was enough for both of us to start over, I moved back in with my parents for a couple of years while I worked my butt off and added more to my bank account (thank you mum and dad, you are the best!), took the whole thing and moved state, built my own business doing something I love and bought a nice place to live, I'll never marry again, now I just date women for sex but I'm always up front about it, if they're not interested then I don't lose any sleep about it because there are lots who do.

Ex wife married some guy she worked with, it lasted two years and she looked like shit last time I saw her, we don't hate each other but I can tell she is jealous of how happy I've become when we talk.
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>>687458374
I am not kidding when I say if there is a dude out there that can look past the fact thats shes 51 and still wants to fuck her after seeing her stomach ( seriously the birth of my children made her look like an abomination from WoW) then i hope he fucks the shit out of her until shes happy again. I wouldnt even be mad if he could make her feel good about herself one more time.
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>>687448475
I was married for 10 years.

I'm much happier alone.

I suppose it depends on the woman. You get married for security. So wait until your mid to late 30s when the idea of maybe weekly sex and just doing boring-ass shit around the house sounds good to you.
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>>687460177
>>687460177
auto correct
tell her dawg, you cheated on your SO
a handjob from a stranger doesn't feel good enough for this level of lying
breakup and get single,youre fucking over someone else's life too
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>>687452962
>>687460199

Sorry, ment for


>>687455648
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>>687460446
What is your job you love?
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>>687455246
Just leave her man fuck
You can still see your daughter even if you don't live with her. The same as you'll still see her when she's moved out.
One of the scariest things to a person can be happiness. It sounds like you're looking for an excuse to stay in a terrible situation because it's all you know and you're afraid to change it now.

>I'd rather continue to look forward to death each day

Does that really sound like an intelligent/sane opinion to have?
Fuck man
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>>687460270
coming this summer

newfag
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It's had ups and downs, mostly ups. 3 years, 1 kid. Sex just about every night. She loves anal and does anything in bed to keep me pleased. About a two years ago she wanted me to start calling her other woman's names while fucking her. I've fucked two of her friends while she watched. We have a reverse cuck thing going on. Turns her on soooo much.

She's in school and I work at home, programming. I wouldn't go back to my life before. She's my best friend.
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>>687460622
Anything you say, son.
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26, married for under a year, miserable.
that counts it up...
married my highschool sweethart, got 2 kids, and now i cant see anything but greener grass on the other side.
the only thing that keeps me going for the long run is my kids. 99% sure that I will leave my wife right after the kids are moving out.
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>>687460564
Seriously dude, it's not me, it's my friend. One of their kids is disabled, he runs his own business, a lot of late working hours etc, he just gets a bit of relief when he's away.
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>>687460270
>implying maym arrows are not versatile
Get a load of this faggot
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>>687460160
Oh it works for everyone who wants it to now!

lol
This just gets better and better.

Yeah, ethics are for suckers. Lets live unethically and be surprised when it all ends in the shit. Again. if you have to blame the majority of your ideology's practitioners for the shortcomings of the ideology, your ideology is fucked. In your case, it always has been, and always will be. Because it is unnatural and unethical in every sense.

Pretty sure single people still get insurace, as if that justifies the cost of the devastation marriage costs the world.
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>687457505
Where are you anon
We're going to break you out
>>687457897
Have you tried antidepressants on yourself or her?
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>>687448475
pretty good

my wife has a good job, so I quit my job and just sit around on /b/ all fucking day
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>>687460622
anon Stuck dick in the crazy lottery and fucking lost millions
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>>687452626

Do it in your mid-early 20s. Die young because growing up and taking the long dick of adulthood every day sucks. And have fun be crazy enjoy what you have op
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>>687457444
Yea. Get out while you still can.
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>>687448475
same as before, but now theres a piece of metal on my finger

not sure what expectations I had, if any.

whenever my dick gets hard or her pussy gets wet.

not marrying sooner, makes swinging so much better
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>>687460735
Okay. LBJ was a good president. There I said it.
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Pro tip... Dont have kids.

Any other than that belive me it is cool. Sex aint that bad if you talk with your girl, even can reach some kind of "special" permissions or agreements and get some trio or affair with no further remorse... of course it depends on how much open mind the person is.

The other commun issues are "dont leave the dirty clothes there", "turn fo the light if you leave", "you did'nt close the door when you left"... stuff like that.
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>>687460270
This was true. ...about 10 years ago.
>Oldfag is old.
>& refuses change to accommodate these fuckin upstarts & whippersnappers.

I think youre not going to win the fight tho anon
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>>687457897
34 here, married for 6. What this guy said. I'm so glad I didn't end up marrying the bitch I was engaged to at 20, shit would have ruined my life.
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>>687460897
I'd say I've gained
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>>687460812
>relief
is your friend a fucking savage
>much manly sex drive tho
your friend is insecure and needs handi as warped form of self approval
you should ask him how his first time went, bet you it was a hj>>687460844
bro go back to your broken home and adjust your cynical ass opinions, it obviously takes 2 for a working marriage
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>>687448475
It's alright. Was together 7 years before we got married, now 8 years married.

You argue, you make up, you enjoy being with each other and you also enjoy your own space. It's like living with anyone but someone really close. If you're in each others faces all the time you start going mad. We got married long after the "honeymoon period" was over so knew what we were getting.

Still, she's my best mate and even though we annoy each other at times I wouldn't change it. I'm sure I can be a shit person to live with and she puts up with me. Have sex pretty frequently as we're trying for kids.

Regrets? Only when hot chicks come onto me!
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>>687459570
Just go. You're not responsible for how she feels. You have to do what's right for you or you will Ben unhappy and resent her.

JUst go.
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>>687455246

You sound like my dad. He once told me would have run away the evening he met my mom. He wants to love her. But all she does is nag, bitch and complain. She changed 9000% when my sister and I were born. Overly protective etc. Poor guy hasnt had sex since then and im 24.

He doesnt have the courage to get out anymore. All he does is fish nowadays. Waiting till the Doctors confirm his lyme disease and end up in a wheelchair in ten years. I think he will kill himself by then.

I'm never getting married. Fuck that shit.
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>>687458489
>shes my first gf, i lost my virginity to her
You have blinders on because you don't know any better. It's time to move on.
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>>687461258
hey if she cheats you were shown the signs
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>>687451181
I don't know if this is fake or not but I posted yesterday in another thread about my ten year relationship with my gf. We arnt married but your situation sounds like mine exactly.

I'm actually talking to a married woman right now that's going through some issues similar to yours aswell.

I'm not a home wrecker or anything she's really into me but I'm just trying to listen atm. I'm a oussy or not I wanna make sure she's ready I couldn't scre over a household.
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>>687461222
>tfw you realise you've been regularly visiting 4chan, of not /b/, for 7 years or more
Damn. Time flies when you're shitposting.
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>>687460877
That bitch takes more pills on a daily basis then an AIDS patient. Still barely gets out of bed and functions.
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>>687451181

^20^32 and this guy is living my life.
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>>687459583
Well it is true that legal marriage used to be stronger than it is. In Louisiana we have a thing called covenant marriage, which my wife and I have. It makes it way way more difficult to get a divorce and you can't just divorce because you woke up one day and decided you don't love each other anyone. It's sad that there has to be a "special" form of marriage for that, when that's how it should be to begin with. If something is broken you fix it, you don't throw it away. But either way I maintain the opinion that if you are going to commit, you should commit fully. Build a strong foundation and don't let divorce be an option.
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>>687461369
Same. All I do is fish now too.

Protip to all: Fishing is not about fishing.
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33 here, married for 3 but together for 13

Awesome, to be honest. Sex about twice-ish a week which is perfectly fine with me.

We're currently on the verge of having kids or not with the tendency to not have any at all. But I could imagine this will be a tough decision in the next 2-3 years. We'll see.
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This is easily one of the most depressing threads I've read on /b/ in a while. So many broken souls who have since given up on life. Many of whom aren't even middle aged.

It's sad to see this happening to so many people. However, this is all of your faults. You were young, Impulsive, caving into societal and familial pressure. The lot of you never took the time to figure out what exactly a marriage is.

Marriage is an arrangement for services. A binding contract in which two people enter into to offer each other a particular service. Whether that's homemaking, child rearing, bread winning, etc. It doesn't really matter. Too many of you married for love and for some, that's enough, they are the ones who continually work at it though. Taking life into their own hands. Learning to always appreciate what their spouse does.

You fools who are now yearning for the sweet kiss of death have effectively dug your own grave because you misunderstood that marriage is a contract for services. Not a declaration of undying love. For if a person has a the ability to provide a service that you cannot, they will always be useful and vice versa. But if you marry for love, feelings and people change. Looks deteriorate and love can sour. This creates resentment and eventually feelings of outright hatred.

I commend you for doing what you believe to be right, by your children. But i fear you are teaching them a bad lesson. By remaining in a hollow sham of a marriage, just to make them feel better. You are telling them that when in a bad relationship you must not think of your own happiness, you teach them that marriages are about resentment and hostility. Unless your children are idiots, they will have seen the lack of intimacy, the lack of respect, the lack of anything resembling a healthy relationship. You're always better off. Seeking happiness for yourself. Otherwise, you hurt yourself, your spouse, and your children. Please, do the right thing. Make yourself happy.
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>>687448475
Married 12 years. Happy as fuck moffat of the time. Couple times a month we fight, mostly over stupid shit. We fuck probably 3-5 times per week, depends on the week. Also have 4 kids and a dog. Over all, I'm very happy and so is she. We are also lightweight closet swingers so that helps keep things interesting
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>married for 2 years, together for 14
>We wanted to wait until we knew for a fact we could commit for the rest of our lives
>We have only ever had sex with eachother
>We are totally in love and have a beautiful child together who will be 1 this year
>No bullshit from her, she's a decent cook.
>Sex is regular, about once a week, blowjobs if I ever need them.
>Lately the sex has been way more passionate for some reason, it goes in and out
>She's my best friend. We love spending big time together and love the lite family we have created.

I have never been happier with my life than I am now.
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>>687461436
I would be okay with being open. We've spoken about it but she detests the idea. Oh well, we'll see at 10 years.
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>>687448475
Been married twice. First one was a mistake. I mistook top notch pussy as love. Bitch was shallow and wasn't dedicated to me or forging our lives together.

Our divorce led me to my present wife, who is awesome. No ragrets with the new wife. She has her shit together, got her Master's at 23 years old, is a hard worker, and is a fucking demon in the sack.
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>>687460199
Sounds like the perfect /k/ waifu
Does she do the chick lean?
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>>687461558
agreed marriage and relationship are synonymous in this example for me
>1 year anniversary next month!
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>>687461207
My kids are awesome and I enjoy them immensely. They have added to my like in a very positive way. Not going to lie though, those first few years were really thought but now that they are older, and we can have conversations, I am digging parenting even more.

Definitely not for everyone, and my wife rocks, so that helps.
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>>687461558
>I maintain the opinion that if you are going to commit, you should commit fully.
Why do you need to lock yourself in like that? Would you be for a society where you could sign a contract that said mercenaries should come and shoot your brains out in case you left your partner? Seems stupid. Just love your partner. Why do you need paper work at all? It makes no sense.

And yes, of course you should try to fix a good relationship if it's broken, but that still doesn't answer the question of why paperwork has to be brought in.
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>>687461675
bullshit: the post

Marriage can be for anything you want it to be. I don't want it, but it's not expressly an exchange of services. Give me a fucking break.
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>>687461742
this talk makes your story healthier,
My wife and I are more interpersonal to each other, a open Mar would feel unfaithful but I understand you
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>>687461769
...to paraphrase:

The key to a happy marriage is to find a brilliant 23 year old nymphomaniac.

Well. fuck. I'd have to agree.
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>>687460593
I design and build furniture, my clients range from individuals to multinational companies.

I can be asked to make anything from a jewelry box to whole boardroom set, at present I'm building a wet bar that has child coffins as pillars and a glass topped coffin as the bar top, it's for a drummer in a rock band.
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>>687461675
It is but at the same time so many people are speaking out right now. A lot of us going through this don't have people to express this to. So even know it's sad it's also a good way for the person to get things off there mind.
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Married for 7 years. Wife was in a abusive relationship for a few years before we got together and we only dated for a few months before we got married. She had a kid too that was rotten. The first year was misery, we always fought and never fucked and her kid walked all over us. Then one day she just snapped and realized she wasn't getting beaten anymore and everything got better. She started disciplining the kid, we fuck almost every night and she is seriously the best wife I could ask for
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>>687461442
its not fake but its the internet so none of that matters.

I never cheated on my wife and never would. I dont want my kids to have to deal with that shit plus we loved each other a lot in the beggining and maybe we still do... maybe this is what love is to old people.

Now i wouldnt cheat on her because my dick is half dead and i dont have to listen to the little bastard telling me to fuck every woman i see. Although about ten years ago this girl who was like 20 something i used to work with started trying till fill the void her unloving father left her with old man dick but all I did was laugh. I asked her if she seriously wanted to ruin my kids lives because she has daddy issues. She got pissed and never talked to me again.
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>>687461598
OP, this pretty much sums up marriage.
Nearly 60% of marriages end in divorce and ruin your life.
Most of the rest of them end in you sitting in a boat in a pond with no fish in it just to have a moment of peace and beauty & away from the awful reality of your life.

The lakes are full of boats.
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>>687462080
Awesome that you found something you love!

I make a lot of money but am bored at work and find myself browsing /b/ way too much while I am here.

Good on you, man.
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>>687460796
>Married for less than a year
>Committing to 20 years for kids
Wow you sure are fucking stupid
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>>687457444

Soory bro, get out. She's cheating on you, or a cunt using sex as a weapon to make you her slave. Use condoms.

Get
Out
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OP here. 43 years old. I was feeling bad about being a loner and created the thread to see what marriage is like. Thread made me feel better about being single/never married.
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>>687462013
Statistically speaking, arranged marriages are amongst the most successful and happiest, adjusted by individual partner satisfaction of all marriages in the world. And what is an arranged marriage if not an exchange of services?
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>>687462188
>not discussing alone time with SO
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>>687448475
Marriage is like capitalism. Its a game, that gets everyone to play for the jackpot, that only one person in a million wins, and the rest pay for with their blood and sweat and mental health for the rest of their lives. But dont you dare say anything against it. Peaople have their entire lives invested in that lottery ticket.
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>>687462371
>Statistically speaking, arranged marriages are amongst the most successful and happiest, adjusted by individual partner satisfaction of all marriages in the world.
Maybe because divorce is not permitted and/or leads to being ostracised.
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>>687462344
There are quite a few happy people in here too.....just make sure you pick wisely.
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>>687462589
too old to pick now mate
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>>687462371
Thats because their expectations are realistic, and they go into them with a realistic understanding of the relationship. Not this prince charming, white horse, billionaire, janes bond, emotional tampon, cosmic soul mate, meant-to-be bullshit.
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>>687462177
Well I'm 27 years old I've been with my gf since 2007 and I've known her since grade 3. I can tell you he first handle full of years we had lists of things in common. Sex all the time. She now does what she loves witch is train horses for a living but that's become her life 24/7 it's literally like she has nothing else to talk about other then that.

This married lady in talking to is 30 I beilive and I'm in no position to tell her how to go about her decision to leave her husband but I could tell she was in a dark place. We just sat and talked about each other's home issues.

To be honest I've never actually did that with anyone before.
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>>687458768
Kek
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>>687462451

This is a great analogy. Good thing it worked out for me.
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>>687462444
Prob because you can get that with a gf, dont need to marry.
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>>687461831
I just feel that committed marriage is the building block of a decent society and that the state has an obligation to uphold that. If 2 people want to do it outside of the legal method, fine. I won't stop them or tell them they can't. But I will say it isn't smart. Marriage in America may have become a bit of a joke, but I won't abandon the institution, I wil be at least 1 person who strengthens it. I think it's important.
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>>687461788

No, shes actually pretty good with a rifle. Regulary getting 48/50, five shots at 100 yards, iron sights.
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>>687462371
marriage is a ceremony people have if they want it

if marriage wasn't so advertised of fucking course it's prevailince wouldn't be so shit on
America wants people to have kids; proletariat class motherfucker
what's the statistics on divorse and kids, you don't have to have kids

most kid less marriages don't fuck up the community id imagine
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>>687462501
Very true! But that still doesn't explain why these people are very happy with their relationship. An arranged marriage is something you need to make work. With the parents as the matchmakers, they are looking for desirable traits. Intelligence, hard working, faithfulness. And parents are frequently, far wiser than their children. So when the man and woman get married, their first few years together are commonly spent learning each other and taking the time to make their marriage a happy one. This lays the foundation for a cooperative as well as a communicative relationship and the partners worth ia never called into question, because they provide one another a valuable service that otherwise, they wouldn't have. Marriage is not just about love.
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>>687451181
>It really is no wonder the white race is dying out considering how hard society has made it to properly raise children.

^this

i'm really lucky that i got to own my house young and that my wife accepted to move in with deep in the countryside. i work at home and she hasnt got back to work since we had our first one 5 years ago. we live a mostly simple life and never had to rely on people to watch over our kids. we drive old used cars, we don't travel much, but we get by cause you don't need a lot in the country if you garden and do shit yourself.

all of our friends opted for the city rat race and i can't say i envy them. they don't get to take care of their own kids or even see each others that much. they do travel a lot and have nice brand new things but they're constantly running after the money to afford these.

i know this life we live is harder for my wife than for me though. being far from the city, not having a lot of social life and all. hope she doesnt burnout at some point like so many modern chicks do, but so far she seems to be able to see the good sides of what kind of life we're providing our kids and ourselves as a family.
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>>687462212
I just browse /b/ now and then while I wait for stuff to dry or shit, you sound like you need a hobby my friend, for a guy it's almost a life saver, I know way to many guys who didn't have a hobby and retired only to die six months later, yet the guys who have hobbies seem to last and last

Next week I'm going to lay down the keel for a sail boat I'm building myself, it's gonna take a couple of years to build but once I'm done I plan to take it all over the gulf and the West Indies, I already sail/fish whenever I can, between work, exercise and boating I don't get to come here to often any more.
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>>687462896
lol you bought in to the new american mythology post-WWII all the way, huh

enjoy hanging on to that dream as long as you can
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Married almost 8 years. 2 kids. Its awesome

Kid number 2 must have knocked something loose, cause wife gets on crazy horny streaks now.

When she is, its like sex nightly, but it turns off a few days before her period to maybe a week after. So about half the time we fuck like mad while trying not to wake the kids.

Its pretty awesome in every other way though. Our relationship just grows stronger. I love it
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Married almost a year
Fuck like retarted bunnies
everyone says we should reproduce wife and i say fuck that
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>>687463053
Let me try and decipher your meaning....are you blaming the American media for destroying marriage?...
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>>687462896
Youre a gullible tribalist loony.
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>>687457020
underrated post
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>>687463273
Where'd you get enough lead?
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>>687463312
Yes sir and proud of it. Marriage, family, faith, and the American Dream of hard work and accomplishment are all things I believe strongly in and I don't care if I'm the last one on earth who does.
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>>687463273
Good advice/info. I am extremely happy outside of work and even at work I am not totally miserable, just not fulfilled.

What part of the world are you in? You seem like a cool bro
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>>687461339
Jesus you are totally clueless about life. The sexual conservatism on this board is truly astounding sometimes.
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>>687461598

Yeah he just does to it get out of the house. Lately she joins him on the trips, reading. He seemed happy with that.

Feels bad man..
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>>687463312
a dream someone else put there for you

real fucking dreams are made from scratch. all marriage is in mainstream media, is a desire to be accepted. a real relationship comes way the fuck before that
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>>687462896
Sounds like something you would say before she cheats on you, takes your money and makes it hard to see your kids.
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>>687461369
My father goes fishing and sometimes never takes the rods from the car
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>>687463565
Thank you sir.
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>>687448475
>being married
Not even once op. Most people are unhappy once there married. Movies condition people to think "it'll be happy ever after" but the truth is, being married is letting the govt tell you, you are stuck in a relationship with a person and the gov't. You don't need a piece of paper to tell you lose someone. Picking one person to be with forever is the same as eating your favorite food exclusively everyday, for the rest of your life. Sounds great, right?
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Marriage really isn't anything special though. I felt no different after being married then before and neither does the wife. We talked about it and said if we ever split up for some reason we'd not bother marrying again as there's really no point/difference.
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>>687463445
no, media advertises non loneliness

no one's buiding their own character of self.
marriage is just an idea, relationships is what it's about.
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>>687457020
so much this
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>>687457020
this
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>>687463717
What a sad and pessimistic outlook. Sounds like you've had some unfortunate experience with marriages. Maybe your own or your parents'? Either way, not everything is as hopeless as it seems.
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>>687462344
I'm 45, never thought I'd settle. Got with a woman I've been banging off and on for 5 or 6 years. Have a kid almost 1 and its really very nice. She doesn't mind if I fuck around but I have no great desire to and feel bad when I do and the kid is an absolute delight. I have focus in my life for the first time after 30 years of cunt and booze. Really quite liking it.
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>>687462896
>i just feel
>pile of ideology

That shit is not a feeling, anon. Those are thoughts. Did you come up with them? Of course not. Those are other peoples thoughts that you thought sounded good. Other people long-dead who documented their thoughts and how those thoughts destroyed those societies they've been implemented in for thousands of years.
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>>687457941
>there must be no happy people if I'm this miserable.
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>>687455088
Too true. Being a single guy at thirty you see the truth. Girls will do what ever if they dont have to technically say yes.

Like I'm not great at getting pussy yet, but if theres one thing ive learned in the past six months, they all seem to fold if you make a firm move on them.

Doesnt matter if married or bf or single or what. All sluts.
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>>687463619
cool story, no one said you had to be monogamous, but discussion and acceptance is needed for it to not be cheating
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>>687457444
i'd say get out as well.

nice trips.
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Just got married this past April, been together 12 years, been living together with kids for 10 years. Its not much different to me. Besides we already did the "fuck you I can do better, the grass is greener on the other side" thing, so I'm hopeful we will do good. Unfortunately she is my best friend so I'm pretty attached
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>>687463597
>American Dream
define pls
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>>687463597
lol
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>>687461675
>doesn't have any kids

You know how I can tell? Because the first second you see them you realize they are your purpose in life. Their happiness, wants, and needs come before your own every single time. I may hate my wife but I love my kids. That's not the kinda love you think that you find in a mate. It's the kind of instant real love that you have for your kids
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Married for 4 together for 10 3 kids.
B I love you so here is my truth. Marriage is hard relationships are hard, Kids are hard, life is hard. Sex is always good marriage has freed her to explore what she really wants sexually, and that has made our sex lives even better.

I spent 10 arguing with myself that marriage was not necessary and just what people did to show their acceptance into society. In the end I knew i loved this woman and that a title is just a title. Marriage will change your life, and if your not ready your going to get crushed by it.
Currently we have young kids and that is hard, but i do not love her any less.
Anything you stop putting effort into will end. friendships, love, work, hobbies. Life is hard, and some times you get kicked in the nuts(shot out to the folks who got cheated on) but the truth is for me that this woman makes me a better man, these kids make me work at being a better man, this life makes me work.
She works at these things all the time to, you see it in the fights you have (or don't) you see it in the good moments and if you look hard enough you will see it in the worst moments.

Find what makes you happy if its not who you are with leave, Life is short, find happiness everyday in the little things.
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>>687464214
Give him some slack.
Thinking isnt for everybody.
For everyone else, there's jingoism.
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>>687464250
nice anecdotal shitpost
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>>687464350
that biological clock and hormones are runnin yo boi
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Sex is highly, highly overrated.

>>687462188
Sounds like I should take up fishing, pack some drugs in the tackle box and I'll be good to go
Obviously a life preserver so I don't trip out and drown
>>687462990
Neato
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>>687460476
There is always someone willing to fuck a woman
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>>687464193
How do you feel with having a kid at 44? at 43 life is not like what it was at 30, you know, you get tired easier etc shit like that. I always felt having a kid would be a lot of work, but having a kid at 44? That'd suck man. I have a 10 year old niece that I put all my care/love into and that's enough because I don't have to worry about her expenses etc, other than taking her on holidays/buyings gifts etc.
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>>687464307
I did. Hard work= success. That may be too ideological for some to handle but it works for me. Just like marriage. It's not just a bunch of stuff I've heard and thought sounded good. It's a bunch of stuff I've experienced. People need to stop being entitled and start working hard again. Work hard at your job, work hard at your marriage, work hard at your life. If something sucks for you it's because you're letting it suck instead of fixing it and turning into motivation to succeed.
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>>687451120
Remember when 4chan was good?
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>>687463595
Lead is just like anything else, you can go on line and buy it, if you know the staff at the local gun range you can go pick up the scrap and melt it down your self..... it's lead my friend not diamonds, LoL
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>>687464827
Nope, had kids before marriage. Got married cause I was young and stupid and thought that it was gonna be that way forever. Married 7years to a horrible fucking human being. Kids are 8 and 10 and would still do anything for them cause they kick ass despite all of us having to deal with the hateful she beast
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>>687464871
calling you're own wife shit isn't much of a relationship, if she cheats it's not because of some lonelynhearts club dicking, it's because he's shit at love
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>>687455732
There are no perfect matches you settle you find someone and say fuck it this is the best I can do and I'm tired of looking. The pre wedding jitters is just people scared that something better is out there and freaking out last minute
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>>687457785
>except shark week
Fucking kek
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>>687465164
hey good on ya for liking your kids, got nothing for you about what you think of your wife though
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>>687453362
Thank you femanon, this post gives me hope
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>>687463608
Without wishing to give too much away lets just say north FL on the coast, I can see the ocean from both my home and workshop, I can be out on the water in 20 minutes or just on the beach in 10.
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>>687461675
>I commend you for doing what you believe to be right, by your children. But i fear you are teaching them a bad lesson.

i grew up in a broken home and will do anything so that my kids dont experience it.it maims you, and you don't realize it until you're well until your 30s and it took 10 years longer than anyone to feel confident in yourself.
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>Married childhood sweetheart
>fucked her sister and her mother (single)
>Found out and divorced me
>Married 8 years later to a nice girl book smart about 5 years younger than me
>After i put a ring on her she went into cunt mode and no sex maybe 2 times a month if i was lucky
>Found pics/vids synced up to her laptop of her going to glory holes
>i was also seeing a chubby bitch behind her back (slam piggy)

Now 5 years after that i'm going out with an asian girl 10 years younger than me and i also moved to the uk with my company during that time as i needed a fresh start.

i'm happier now

we both don't want kids

we have sex every day and always are joking around never had a connection like this with a girl before

in a few weeks will be our 3rd year

been living together about 1yr now.
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I am married, I regret it, I married someone 4 years older, should of held out for someone younger. Dont get married before late 30s. I would split but now kids are involved and I would lose too much cash.
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>>687457785
my wife and I are both 10% lat, we fuck like intelligent bunnies
we also both have more than 20% German, may explain why we talk about education the whole time through
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>can be myself without having to put on a mask
>trust implicitly with anything
>fuck whenever either of us wants
>she enjoys catering to my admittedly tame fetishes
>best friends
>share each others hobbies
>bareback fucking is the best thank you based implanon
>her relatives are generally cool as fuck and asian moms can cook like you wouldn't believe

best decision I ever made right after finishing my degree
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>>687456359
Where'd you hear the phrase "like a fat kid loves cake?"
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>>687464250
>in the past six months
>All sluts.

that's one hell of a backed-up testimony right there.
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being married basically ruined my life.
don't do it folks.

I regret every day and I can't leave because I'm guilted into staying.

NEVER SETTLE. Fulfil your worth. Dno't be a cunt like me
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>>687454475
>MFGTOW

fill me in please

what the fuck is that?
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>>687452626
they say a man dies twice.

Once when he gets married
and once when he gets buried
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>>687448475
got married 7 years ago....went from fucking at least 6 days out of 7 a week, often multiple times a day, anytime and anywhere, blowjobs were abundant, she was even taking it in the ass for a while. 1st year was pretty good, I worked, she took care of the household stuff and sang in a band at some local bars for extra cash. 2nd year had my son, that was great, she didnt put on any extra weight, looked great walking out of the hospital. 3rd year she gave up on life...cut her hair short, put on a bunch of weight....stopped cooking, cleaning, barely got out of bed other than to get more food to stuff her face with and to take care of my sons needs. 4th year she gets a xanax scrip to deal with her "depression" goes off the wheels with that, ends up in rehab 3 times that year. 5th year we barely aknowledge each other, i sleep on the couch most of the time because the bed has started to take on the shape of the dent she has worn in it from laying there all day. At this point sex is maybe every other month with me basically either begging for it or threatening to get a hooker or fuck her sister. 5th year i move out for 3 months and live on my boat, fuck a different girl pretty much every other day, taking my son on the weekends and whatever week days i can work around my schedule. Move back into the house when fall comes around, fucked her once in 11 months, at this point shes 50 to 70 pounds heavier than when we got together. I moved out 8 months ago, shes now a heroin addict and its just me and the boy now.

If i didnt have my son id regret every second of it but hes everything to me so it wasnt a total loss haha.

So yeahp, im a 36 yr old single dad now and couldnt be happier

Fin
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>>687464350
To make up for all the resources you've consumed and destroyed in this world, which could have gone to someone who would do something of significance, you have not only defaulted on your responsibility, but 1, have increased your resource use by orders of magnitude in 2, the exemplification of vanity by creating copies of yourself, not caring for any of the multitude of existing available kids in need of a quality upbringing, 3 you clearly your passed the buck of doing something significant on to your kids, who now have their own resource consumption to compensate for, but your own in addition, making it even harder and more likely they will be able to, especially if they are raised by such a selfish and unethical person as you.

You are everything wrong with and destroying the human race.
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>>687448475
ill never get married. no1 should
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NEW THREAD >>> >>687466398
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>>687465811
to touch on this again, implanon is double awesome, bareback + she doesn't get periods anymore, even though she was cranked up to 11 horny when she was on her period I didn't care for the blood

now she still gets megahorny but there is no blood at all

I thought I was a horny motherfucker because of all the fapping I did when I was single but I find it hard to keep up with her sometimes

I don't know if all asian women fuck like bunny rabbits but holy shit my wife is insane
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>>687452626
Do it now and livestream
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