Why don't you own an AR-15 for self-defense and to protect your family, home and country?
>>686851995
whoever put that thing together should fucking die of cancer jesus christ
>>686851995
>AR15
>nogunfagging this hard
That's a fucking AK47 you idiot do you not see the wood?
I live in a country where you don't get assaulted by nutters every time you step outside
>>686851995
CRINGE
>>686851995
Cause I have an hk91
Get money faggot
>>686852182
>>686852355
>>686852707
>>686852747
>Trolling this hard.
>>686851995
I do mm. 300 blk on AR platform w/ SiCo Omega supressor.. fun stuff.
>>686852355
oh my god the retards on here. how bout you actually fucking look at it. its clearly a glock. i see them on the news all the time
M&P15-22 is it any good?
>>686852355
You are a fucktard.
That is clearly an AR. Admittedly, it is an ugly as fuck AR, but still an AR.
Learn to gunz, faggot.
>>686853016
It's a fun gun to plink around with and get comfy with AR platform
>>686853016
Nope.
>>686851995
>implying a tricked out Black Rain Match rifle is shit
>>686851995
How do I purchase one of these? It's beautiful.
>>686853119
That is a AK47 you retard have you ever touched a gun in your life? LOL you're b8 is so bad that's clearly just one of those modern AK47s, look at the put and the grip thingy, WOOD! clearly a AK47
>>686853445
>>686853157
I was looking at that and cost to shot. Just what to get my wife into it. She doesnt like the AR but rifle she's cool with
>>686851995
My dick is slightly larger than average so I don't need a gun, thanks anyway OP.
>>686853276
You build it... Why you would want wooden parts on an ar i'd never understand. Heavier and uglier than plastic parts
>>686851995
>Tactards hating cuz it's not all black.
Dat wood grain mixed with the black/stainless is a fucking beautiful combo fam.
>>686851995
Because I am not a paranoid schizophrenic who believes they, their family, or their country, is in the frequent danger required to own a weapon like this.
In honesty of all the fights I have been in, and all the threats I have recieve, knuckledusters probably would be the heaviest shit I would ever need m8.
>>686853445
You're not serious are you?
>>686853538
So you can defend yourself from a home intruder with your dick? Ok faggot
>>686853599
dubs hath spoken, and yes, wood furniture is great but NOT on an AR15
>>686853703
No, it means I don't feel my musicality is always threatened so I don't have to compensate with the biggest gun I can buy easily.
Unless the intruder is a woman, in which can I can yes.
>>686853983
kek, I meant masculinity.
>>686853599
well what kind of AR should I get? what would be the best build?
>>686853983
what the fuck does music have to do with owning a gun?
Is the LVAO a good rifle or does it just look cool?
>>686853983
>musicality
Not sure what playing instruments has to do with this. So what do you do if a burglar/multiple burglars break into your home armed with a gun? Call the cops so they can clean up the mess after you're dead?
>>686854088
Daniel defense builds good shit.. noveske makes good shit.. valtac makes good shooting barrels.. spikes makes cool shit.. all depends on how much moneys you want to spend.
>>686851995
loving to own one aside it doesnt stop electromagneticfaggory
>>686854292
I doot them out.
>>686851995
cuz i dont have the money, also im gunna build an ar10 like a man instead of shooting your baby mousefart calibre peagun
>>686853119
>>686853700
You're a fucking idiot
>>686853667
got any cute daughters of breeding age?
>>686851995
How many times have you used an AR15 to protect your family, home and country?
NEVER!?!?!
who
would
have
guessed
>>686854088
You can't go wrong with a ruger. Fairly well made rifles at a decent price point and you can get them prebuilt or in pieces.
>>686851995
Because I live in a country brain washed by liberals and I can't legally own any gun or use any gun for self defense, law changed in the 90s.
see pic.
Because my self worth isn't derived from the delusion that I live in some kind of cheesy action movie.
>>686854521
prevention is the better cure you clueless fuckwit
>>686854521
This
>>686854528
What the fuck
>>686854499
Yeh, and I would rip anyone who touched them limb from limb with my bare hands, no need for a gun.
DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU
I'm satisfied with my penis size thank you
>Home defense
Your fucking barrel is going to be peaking every single door by agreat kill,
Load of American bullshit
Kys
>>686851995
>Why don't you own an AR-15 for self-defense and to protect your family, home and country?
Who says I don't?
>>686854739
So you say that anyone who owns an ar bases their whole self worth off of it?
>>686854836
post pics
>>686851995
I own an ak
>>686854894
Except criminals are pussies, so you have to fight fire with fire.
>>686854894
Good ol 3 incher eh?
>>686854796
i take penicillin daily for the same reason
just to be safe
smart huh?
>you're a fucking retard
>>686854894
Real men think for themselves. Quit being a faggot and be realistic here or just kill yourself.
>>686855092
Luckily I don't live in a 3rd world shithole where I get into shootouts on my way to the grocery store
>>686854836
So you are the only person with a right to self defense?
Those weaker than their attacker have no right to defend themselves?
>>686855203
stop eating food and breathing air then
smarter, huh?
>>686855253
ENLARGE THAT IMAGE IT TURNS INTO SPIDERMAN
>>686855300
nice dubs
>>686855039
The fuck nigger?
You doubting I have hands or some shit?
isn't that the Assault rifle from Fallout 3?
>>686855300
Yeh pretty much, life is a lottery mate.
Enjoy being a manlet.
>>686855416
no of ur daughters
Because money
>>686855300
If someone asks for your wallet just give it to them holy shit you don't need to shoot them over $20 retard
>>686855300
Dubs speaks the truth!
Convicted felon master race reporting in.
>>686855517
So once you get old, you have no right to defend yourself?
The world should belong to the strongest?
>>686855517
anarchist detected
>>686854528
May the real men someday raise up and take back your bitch country. I'm in the USA I agree you don't need 50 guns but I can see a good 10 or so. Hell you need a .22, hunting rilfle, shotgun, assault rilfe, couple hand guns.
>>686855522
They arn't into faggots, sorry m8.
>>686855603
You didn't answer the question.
>>686855421
looks nothing like it.
You should not be allowed to possess a firearm.
Only law enforcement should be armed. You are just a civilian. Like all civilians, you are incompetent. Society can not trust you with the responsibility possessing a fire arm requires. If civilians were competent, they would not require legal representation when they appear before a judge in court. In such a circumstance, the mere presence of an attorney standing next to you is in essence a declaration to the state that you are unfit to represent yourself because you don't know the law.
If you own a firearm you are a danger to society. Your firearms should be confiscated. All of them, including hunting rifles. We all know the reason you want to keep them. You think that you are the last line of defense against tyranny. A minute-man, wannabe. But you aren't. You talk like you're all big and tough but we all know that when the cops come knocking on your door to confiscate your weapons, you are going to punk out, lay down and let them take them.
Unless of course you're stupid, and actually resist twenty to thirty, badge-carrying Iraq war veterans armed to the teeth.
>>686855300
Yet you likely have no issues with piecemeal disarming American citizens due to convictions of non-violent and victimless crimes?
>>686855603
Nope, my $20 is worth more than a criminals life. I wouldn't even give them a fucking penny.
>>686855631
Yep, as it has for it's entire existence uo until manlets set up a police force etc.
>>686855643
You got me nigger, I only believe in laws to keep the economy healthy, otherwise it's fair game.
Legal disputes should take the form of public wresting matches to the death.
>>686855803
>. If civilians were competent, they would not require legal representation
They don't
>>686855803
nice copypasta
>>686851995
>this high powered rifle is legal to own in America
>an ak 47 is practically illegal in most states
>American """laws"""
>>686852618
So you don't live in Europe.
>>686855807
Nope.
If you are out of jail, you have paid your debt to society and should have all your rights.
If you can't be trusted with your rights, then you should still be in jail.
>>686851995
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>>686851995
that wooden stock is sexy
Because "self defense" is still murder. You can tell yourself otherwise, but you're still delusional.
Every self defense story I've heard is of one man killing another.
>>686855652
>Assault rifle
That's where you fucked up.
>>686851995
I would but I lost all my guns in a boating accident.
>>686856121
manslaughter at best
>>686855844
Do you call yourself "Christian"
>>686856280
Not everyone's name is "Christian" you fucking autist.
>>686854521
How many times have you used an AR15? How many guns have you even handled?
NONE!?!?!?!
who
would
have
guessed
>>686856122
Self defense bitch. Every American should be required to have one and 10k rounds. We should have a standard rifle we all must own. We should be ready for when the rag heads show up.
>>686856121
So are you saying self defense in your eyes is bad and not justifiable?
Google beowulf 50 cal
>>686855844
If you shoot someone for simply asking, or even demanding $20, you go to prison. They have to jeopardize your life for you to use lethal force, unless your a cop.
>>686854260
It just looks cool. It's no different from a $700 Sig Sauer at WalMart.
>>686856502
Ragheads are United States citizens too, moron. There are three in my National Guard unit.
>>686856502
Switzerland employ this method and have the lowest crime rates on the planet.
>>686855652
Pump actions are pretty much illegal here unless you have a lawful reason, which you need to prove you get most of your income from running a animal pest control business culling pest animals.
Handgun license requires you to have to attend mandatory competitive shoots every couple of months to retain your license. Also, it is illegal to shoot a handgun on your own property, no matter how much land you own.
Also owning any gun means you are subject to random home searches to make sure your firearms are stored correctly (stored correctly means, legally, you have to have your gun disassembled with the bolt stored in one lock safe and the rest of the gun stored in a seperate lock safe. The ammunition has to be stored separate from the gun in a lock safe. The safe has to be heavier that a specific weight or bolted to the wall/floor.)
Most states you cannot own a gun that holds more than 10 rounds. Semi auto rifles/shotguns are illegal, same rules apply as the pump actions i said above.
They are looking to outlaw lever actions recently calling them "New rapid fire technology".
>>686856671
i cant find one.
>>686856280
Nope. Agnostic leaning towards atheist
>>686855603
wtf? you're not shooting them for $20. you're shooting them for threatening your life you retard
>>686856691
The United States is a white, Christian nation. The ragheads in your national guard unit should be stripped of their citizenship and deported.
>vote Trump to make this happen
>>686856514
I'm saying owning a gun for "self defense" and then using it for the express purpose of killing anyone who might threaten you is wrong. I'm not some anti-gun liberal, but having a gun puts you in a position of power over an attacker. So even if you're forced into acting (i.e. some thug running at you with a knife) you don't always have to shoot to kill.
>>686856648
In the picture he's pointing a gun. Thats the situation i was referring to
>>686856913
>The United States is a white, Christian nation
No it isn't. We realize that you'd like it to be, but your race doesn't have the power to make that happen.
>>686856667
you fucking wish. crime at gun point went sky high after they they took guns away from the civis
>>686857241
The wall just got higher.
>>686856667
my bad i thought you said Australia
>>686856502
>Le ebin impending ISIS invasion meme
There is no coming Muslim invasion, at least not the way you shitkickers imagine it. You think vast armies of Muslims are going to suddenly converge on your little pisswater town in Flyover, nowhere? If Muslims do start coming the the U.S. in droves it will be as immigrants and refuges and murdering one simply because you saw him on the street of Sisterfuckersville will lead you to a lengthy prison sentence.
Good luck.
>>686857303
kek
>>686851995
because I own a 12 ga shotgun filled with 00 buckshot for home defense. I own an AR for general fun and the occasional coyote killing.
>>686857303
There isn't going to be a wall. Even if Trump somehow miraculously gets elected, there STILL will not be a wall.
>>686852747
Found one of those at a gun show last weekend, an actual imported HK91. Fucker wanted $5000 for it and wouldn't come down a penny. Think I'll just get a PTR91 and cry myself to sleep.
>>686856706
Swiss citizens also tend to be able to move 20 feet without the use of a power scooter, and as a whole are not terminally diabetic.
>>686855803
ancient pasta
>>686857543
>Still not going to be a wall
That is where you are wrong, Trump will have a wall of armlinked patriots if that is what it takes to stem the brown tide.
Your days are numbered Hosé.
I will be hunting for you when the government allows citizens to throw out their neighbours.
>>686857094
right because in those few seconds someone is attacking me with a knife, i'm going to consider about how my own life is no more important than some criminals, so instead im only going to give him a slap on the wrist and shoot him in his leg, because thats what my instincts tell me to do in a scenario which requires immediate action. If a criminal is threatening my life, i'm choosing mine over their's, there is nothing morally wrong with defending yourself when you're life is on the line dumbfuck.
>>686857721
>Swiss citizens also tend to be able to move 20 feet without the use of a power scooter,
That's just crazy. What do they use? Negros to push them about in wheeled carts?
>>686856912
Where the fuck was that said? He literally said "for ASKING for $20". You shoot someone for simply asking for $20, you go bye-bye.
>>686856913
>Le deported meme
How the fuck do you "deport" someone who was born in the U.S.? Where do you send them?
>>686855652
Australia has no major political party that is pro gun. Not even close. The only pro gun parties in Austalia are small independents who have zero chance of getting in.
The "conservative" government in Australia were the ones who created these new laws that say you can't own a gun for self defense and restrict all what types you can and can't own seen in this post - >>686856731
If you watch this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klS-OJfwwkk
you see pro gun independents arguing with the hosts of a morning show about lever actions, the way these hosts act is what most Australians act like about guns. It's long but interesting. Thought people might be interested to see.
But I do
>>686857109
Yes, now tell me how you will pull your gun when someone already has the drop on you, directly in your face. Let me know how that works out for you.
>>686857831
My name isn't Hose. It's Steven. I'm a white male and I'm voting for Hilary Clinton.
I don't necessarily like Hillary Clinton, but I'll vote for her if that's what it takes to prevent the next Hitler from coming to power.
>>686857896
You talk about morals but then you outright say you'd kill an attacker. Defending yourself is one thing, but don't pretend you've done no wrong. Killing ANYONE for ANY REASON is never right.
>>686858055
You do a genetic test and then send them to the home of their ancestors.
>>686858204
>Voting
There are seriously people who think their vote matters? Ha ha ha.
>>686857896
>instinct
>shoot
>implying that shooting someone with a gun is instinctual
An instinctual move would be hitting the guy with your gun, retard. It's okay though, everyone knows you really just want to be able to murder someone and get away with it. The 'ol self defense excuse doesn't work 100% of the time, but it's your life to gamble so go ahead you entitled edgelord.
>>686858204
>next Hitler coming to power
Your genetic father wasn't around when you were brought up, please confirm this fact.
>>686857303
How high is it now? Bout 10 lightyears you fucking faggot?
>>686858402
>training doesn't rewrite instincts
Wew lad, you obviously haven't ever done anything you disliked.
>>686857831
>>686858148
wtf
>>686858497
It still got higher, we can't risk retardation like this contaminating the populace.
>>686857896
>Criminal
You are a criminal.
>>686851995
Because I sold mine, and spent the money on coke.
>>686857543
>There isn't going to be a wall.
Is this bait?
>>686857905
Probably their own feet, I know, fucking poorfags right? They can't afford power scooters for their Miggy Deez and WalMart runs.
>>686853797
Idk, this looks really good. OP's pick is just such a clusterfuck of randomly selected parts that the wood looks especially weird.
>>686858878
>babby's first election
>>686851995
b-cuz I own an sks .
Much better stopping power then a faggot toy gun AR
>>686858909
>this looks really good
Specsavers. You should go to.
This!
>>686858988
I bought mine for $85 back in '98 or so. Those and AKs used to be so cheap back then.
>>686852880
>Being this big a faggot
>>686858307
Who are "they"? Anyone with a tan?
>>686858402
Right, because you don't ever take professional self defense courses when you want to open carry/conceal carry to properly adjust yourself in scenarios to where pulling out your gun to fire when you're in danger in losing your life doesn't become instinct at that point, i'm just have permanent muscle memory to use my fire arm as a club.
>>686858791
Ok, so when someone breaks into my 76 year old grandmothers house, she's the criminal when she uses a firearm to defend herself, fuck her, right?
>>686858988
thats just what people who cant shoot well say
>>686855603
This picture is what's wrong with America. Better start toting now and train train train. Even the rural areas are being infested with dindus lookin for a nuffin. And like the other guys said 1) the $20 in my pocket is worth more than his life and B) I'm killing him for threatening death or great bodily harm, not for demanding my wallet
>>686858765
>Shitkickers actually believing Trumps wall meme
I mean, he didn't even have to try with you people.
>>686859008
I would, but my prescription is fine. Brb, going to the store to buy a kitchen knife without a licence because i dont live in Britistan.
>>686858878
Wait, you actually believe he is going to erect a continent-spanning wall and force Mexico to pay for it?
>>686859345
that is just what people who play with shitty little toy guns as their faggot shoulder can't handle recoil would say.
>>686859308
Everyone is a "criminal". It's a broad word. Everyone has broken a law at some point.
Don't worry OP, I have a tricked out AR. Daniel Defense upper, Lancer tactical lower, CTR stock, blah blah blah.
>>686859530
>>686859694
>are unaware of the Great Wall of China
It has been done before niggers, it just takes a great man with ultimate power.
Enjoy being the wrong side of it while I drink American beer, lie on an American deck-chair, and laugh an American laugh.
>>686859737
kek nice one.
>>686859486
Enjoy his family's Jewish lawyer turning it into you murdering an innocent young black boy and the SJW media cleaving your asshole apart.
>>686854521
implying one of my coworkers didnt just use a gun to stop his home from being broken into this last tuesday. lives in a damn nice area too.
>>686852747
This.
Anything short of 7.62 Real Fucking NATO is for fags and women
>>686859954
Not saying you're wrong, but completely irrelevant.
>>686860079
>Trump
>Great man
Pick one.
>>686860079
You say American like it's a good thing.
>>686857094
you shoot to stop the threat. you also dont meet lethal force with non lethal force. if he survives your shots and gives up, great. but the goal first and foremost is to get rid of the threat to your life
>>686860503
Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6. Also kys faggot
>>686858199
Act like pulling out wallet, instead reach for holstered gun. Not that hard to comprehend
>>686861161
Very valid point.
>>686861161
Buy a stun gun. No reason to kill another human being.
>>686858402
spend some time flying an airplane and then tell me your instincts can't be honed to deal with unnatural situations
>>686861272
>The 12 for 6 meme
Ask me how I know your a redneck shitkicker loser?
CAPTCHA: Click on the pick up trucks
>>686861398
People can still move through them.
Op has the ugliest looking ar platform I have ever seen, mine is in pic
>>686860997
>Trump
>multi-millionare
>fucks underage
>triggers feminists
>upsets minorities
>white male
>not a great man
Try harder nigger.
>>686861128
I ain't even American, but I want to be if Trump gets in, same as I would kill to be Russian right now. Great men lead their countries the right way, and now tbe greatest countries on Earth have them as leaders, the rest of us are just fucked.
>>686861295
Holy fuck, you're a faggot. Please like you with these hero scenarios are hilarious. Real life is not a vidya game or movie, faggot. Not all muggers are going to be that stupid. What if the second he sees steel he empties the chamber right between your eyes? As a little babby faggot I can tell you have never been held at gunpoint. It's not like the movies. You would never be able to pull that off and if you tried you would very likely die.
Grow up kiddo.
>>686851995
cause I'm not a redneck?
>>686861398
stun guns dont work through heavy clothing, and im pretty sure the maximum amount of consecutive shots any of those is capable of is 3.
also, again, this guy is trying to kill you. you dont meet lethal force with non lethal force.
an attacker has no regard for your life, why the fuck do you care about his?
>>686852355
nah, that is obviously an fucking shotgun look at the dirt on the pipe!
>>686861398
Stun guns dont work if the person has thick clothing or if by chance one prong doesnt go in. And the ones that require u actually touch the person rely on causing your attacker pain, which is useless on someone whose on drugs
My ar is set up and ready for intruders
>2016
>Owning a gun
>>686851995
I live in a first world country, I don't have to
>>686861863
>never been held at gunpoint
I am not that anon, but I am going to claim the same about you.
I am from South Africa, and have been "held" at gunpoint twice, both times by random drugged up cunts in nights out.
It would be very easy to empty a clip into those guys m8, they are usually high, and often so poor they can't afford bullets for their shiny handguns.
Poor bait.
>>686851995
cause I don't have a small dick
>>686854260
IMO it does not look that cool either.
hk416/hk417 looks a lot cooler IMO and have the same type of look
more common too ofc
>>686851995
Because I have this bad boy.
>>686862550
No faggot. Only a fool would take a risk like that. And you wouldn't even try because your not a fool, your a beta bitchboy. Life is not a fucking and you're not James Bond. In real life you pull some bullshit like that you get a shot to the gut and left to bleed out like an animal.
>>686854823
why are you surprised?
statistically they kill more among the families they are supposed to protect than they kill armed intruders that for some reason entered your home for some other reason than money (if they are just after your stuff you have insurance anyway, same reason you always just give your wallet if robbed on vacation, you are covered so it does not really matter)
>>686855203
Great red herring. Total fucking nonsense, but that's cool I guess.
>>686862648
This
>>686859308
Training and instinct aren't the same you fucking retard. Instinct is not taught. That's like, the very definition of it.
Self defense classes teach you how to disable an enemy, not specifically kill them. Cops are trained to use firearms this way. I guess you're like the ones in the states who will shoot a guy six times in the back like a fucking psychopath though.
We all get how tough you are with your paid classes and expensive toy, get over yourself.
I only got this for hunting
>>686862057
you must live somewhere really shitty to have these kinds of concerns in your day to day life.
save up some money and move out of the ghetto
>>686863263
Winchester savage 308
>>686861684
People can't move through being tased nigger. Have you ever seen someone being tased? It causes all their muscles to clench. People who have been tased 100+ time for training/demos can't even move.
>>686862057
>stun guns dont work through heavy clothing,
Uhh not true at all:
>Tasers work by using two separate probes to pass a high-voltage current through the body. The probes don't need to touch skin to do so, as the high voltages involved allow the current to jump across an "air gap" of up to two inches into the body,
>>686862648
doesnt matter how big your dick is when you're dead.
>>686851995
Because I ain't some poorfag. I have a fully auto M-60.
>>686863369
right, because there are places where crime magically doesnt exist.
until i can carry a cop, i'll carry a gun thanks.
>/k/ommandos posting on /b/
>>686863513
but his enemy is a skilled ninja that would keep his coat 3 inches from his skin while fighting back with his sick ass ninja moves, only owning several guns will defeat such a foe
>>686862965
You're fucking retarded. Anti-gun pro-thug cunt.
>>686863711
no but in some areas where people are generally content the most dangerous crime is driving under influence and even that happen rarely.
statistically wearing a helmet at all times would do a better job at protecting my life where I live than carrying a gun ever would
seriously, move out of the ghetto and see for yourself
>>686863513
>People can't move through being tased nigger. Have you ever seen someone being tased? It causes all their muscles to clench. People who have been tased 100+ time for training/demos can't even move.
You're stupid as fuck. Look -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMuLiIKnguo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNXdzPTkviM
>>686863513
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpbbANEYQXE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avAH49NY_iY
doesnt even need to be heavy clothing bro. youre launching two contact points and hoping they make a complete circuit. if you want to bet your life on that, go ahead.
>>686862853
The fuck nigger, I carry a gun now, as I was insanely lucky to not be shot to dead by the methhead for shits and giggles.
I am glad you live in a safe country, enjoy it, but don't shit on the lifestyle of those who don't. Here a proper homeinvasion is almost common.
Because a rifle is not really maneuverable in confined spaces like in a house. 1911 ftw faggot
>buying a cucked m16 for self defence
That shape and design was made for a full auto rifle. Buy something that's actually practical you autists.
>>686861399
If you're going to go through all this work to train yourself to instinctively shoot people, why not train yourself to shoot in the least lethal while still disabling places? Why not learn to use a stun gun or rubber bullets?
I know exactly why. It's because you think guns are SO COOL just like in the movies, and only cool mature people know how to use guns, right?
>gun owners claiming they need them to protect themselves
>acting cool even though you admit to being a pussy who needs a gun to feel safe
>>686863735
I'm pro gun, just anti retarded reason as to why you should have it.
the only people who honestly think they need a gun for protection either live a shitty place or they are paranoid
>>686863220
I guess you don't understand the concept of muscle memory. This is why you are specifically trained the proper technique of un-sheathing your firearm when needed and how to safely handle it. AT that point when you have the experience, it will basically become instinct. But i suppose you suddenly became and expert and know everything about the topic, so i guess you're right.
>>686864207
but then they don't look as cool as their hero from the movies
>>686864289
>HURR DURR PEOPLE SHOULDNT OWN GUNS TO PROTECT THEMSELVES
>IM PRO GUN THO GUYZ DW
>>686862057
How do you know your attacker is trying to kill you and doesn't value your life? You fucking psychic bro?
>>686863735
>>686864218
Disabling shots are a myth my friend. Maybe its you who has to stop basing your knowledge about guns from movies.
>>686864561
kek
>>686863532
You're more likely to get your own weapon taken from you and used against you.
>>686861128
It is good. Where else could someone like GG Allin or Seth Putnam make careers out of being themselves?
>>686863934
lol, i live in a modern house on lakefront property on lake washington. my neighbor has a decently sized boat and a small amphibious airplane moored at his little dock. this is hardly the ghetto. crime exists everywhere. if youre happy waiting on police to come save you, that's fine.
>>686864440
the reason people make fun of them for saying they need it for protection is because they for example don't wear bike helmets at all times when in public, something that overall protect your life a lot more than owning a gun ever would be able to, just to name one example of something someone honestly that worried about safety would do
people needing guns for self defense are just insecure, paranoid or they live in the ghetto
>>686862965
>implying the kind of person who buys a gun for protection "believes" in buying insurence
Just being honest:
I dont own an assault weapon or any firearm. No, not because I am against having them or that i dont know how to use one properly. Simply put, I'm fucked up in the head and I know that I would do something really fucked if I had one. I know that I am unstable enough to have one for my safety and that of those around me.
>>686864609
its not a myth at all, the reason american cops don't do it as much as other countries is because they are literally told to shoot to kill if they draw their weapon while in other countries they tell them to aim for the legs
>>686852182
Lol agreed
>>686864218
seriously though, why the fuck do you care about preserving the life of someone who has every intention of taking yours?
do you also not realize that in most cases, a gun doesnt need to be discharged at all to stop a crime. often times just having one is enough. it worked for my coworker last week, no shots fired.
>>686864939
You can still die from being shot in the leg.
>>686864675
I don't wait for anyone to come save me, but I am realistic, I don't wear a helmet at all times, I do use public restrooms, I do not need a gun.
Why are you not wearing a bike helmet? why are you not forcing your family to wear one 24/7?
you need to protect them!
>>686861398
Look, I don't want to kill another human over my fucking TV or car, or whatever. I don't even know if I would to save my own life, because honestly I don't care that much about it anyway. I would however not hesitate if it was between them and one of the few people I do care about.
>>686864875
what is there to believe? it is a written and signed agreement?
On account of FAL goes better with my green plum smugglers.
>>686853119
It's a ray gun you dumb nigger
>>686864528
oh, so the guy charging me with a lethal weapon just wants a hug? you cant legally just shoot people who arent a threat
>>686864646
uh, no. that happens in less than 1% of self defense cases
>>686864906
You seem well aware enough to make that assumption, so maybe you're aware enough to do the reasonable thing and seek therapeutic help and POSSIBLY (note i said the word possibly) work towards correcting any issues that classify you as a "unstable person".
>>686865085
ofc, no one have claimed you can't?
the point is to minimize the risk of casualties, no one have denied the risk being there
>>686851995
Bc a 12ga with 000 doesn't go through walls as fast but does carry more energy into the body of the intruders.
>>686864383
You can train yourself all that, but can't train yourself to aim at legs/shoulders?
You're still wrong about the instinct thing, but at this point a dictionary would do a better job arguing with you then me. I understand what you're trying to say, but you're describing it with the wrong word, moron.
It's not even fun when they're this stupid.
>>686865214
You don't wait for anyone to save you yet you think you do not need a gun? So if a criminal attacks you with a gun, what are you going to do then?
You're not realistic. Realistic is saying "Crime happens everywhere and people are unpredictable, it's safer to be armed just in case than to be unarmed if anything ever happens".
You want to be at the mercy of criminals and luck.
Also, part of having fucking human rights is the right to have the possibility to defend your own life or those you love. It doesn't matter what the chances are of anything happening because if something happens, as I said, it's too late if you aren't already armed.
I've been building a collection of rifles in case Trump gets elected. Day one of a Trump presidency is day one of the resistance.
AK master race.
SGL-31 > Mall Ninja Legos
>>686864609
Sure thing b0ss. You're the expert, after all. Since you took that course designed by the people trying to sell you the guns.
Part of me wishes we could have guns in Australia so I could own one of these.
It's an l1a1 slr, probably the best looking rifle I have seen. I don't exactly approve of war, but I wouldn't say no to this beautiful piece of history.
>>686852355
>inb4 "is that a FAMAS?"
>>686865883
then by being realistic you should wear a bike helmet 24/4 in case you fall over and hit your head
if you are not wearing a bike helmet 24/7 your words about protecting yourself are weak as piss considering the helmet would most likely protect you more
>>686865478
I'm stable and level headed enough when I'm on my medication as I should be, like I am now. Problem with medications like this is that the effects of missing your medication for one reason or another can trigger events that are best experienced without such "tools" being around.
I do seek therapy through medication and counseling. It certainly helps but I believe it's best to keep firearms away.
>>686865214
this is one of the dumbest arguments i have ever heard.
"hurr, you dont arent using every piece of safety equipment know to man, so you cant be that worried about safety, you just want to kill people"
helmets are great. the military uses them all the time, and yes, statistically speaking they do pervent a wide range of head injuries. but i work/play in bear country, and so far i havent seen many bear rated helmets or safety equipment
>>686851995
Because I am not anywhere near that afraid.
>>686856442
durrrrrr
i had an ar15, 9mm pistol, 45acp, 22 pistol, and at least 5 other rifles
how many times did i need them?
oh
never
how many times have you used yours or for that matter your brain?
NEVER!??
wew lad
>>686851995
Because it's illegal in my country ?
>>686866092
It's not worth biweekly mass shootings though.
>>686865903
Trump is the only solace we can find from tumblrfags or redditfags like yourself, I suggest returning there.
>>686866324
Do you have some sort of mental disablity? You keep repeating the same things over and over again even though they make zero sense and the worst part about it is that you actually think you are making a coherent argument. It's actually kind of sad.
>>686866739
Mm hmm your personal annoyance justifies electing a fascist?
>>686866425
it was a good argument until you changed the setting and made it into a direct comparison in bear fighting potential
my point stands, if you are so worried about security you need a gun, you at least need to wear a helmet 24/7, considering it do more for you than the gun, generally speaking.
>>686853667
This. Plus, although knuckledusters are illegal where I am, knives and swords aren't. A good knife is far more effective in close quarters than a gun, plus blades don't go off accidentally while cleaning them.
>>686865754
If someone were to threaten me in an action that resulted in me possibly losing my life, i'm not going to just willing aim for a specific limb, i'm willing to stop that person with my firearm with the intent of only that, preventing them from taking my life. If hits their leg or arm, and it stops them, you do the REASONABLE thing and then call the authorities. People who carry with the intent of self defense aren't looking for an excuse to execute someone, because that isn't how the law works. Apparently the few wrong actions by minorities in a demographic speak for the rest.
>>686865071
I don't care about their life, and certainly not yours. However I care about my own, and people DO go to PRISON for MURDERING CRIMINALS in their own homes. Why take the risk when there are plenty of alternatives that could work just as well? Why is a gun the ONLY option for self defense to you people? Guns are not the be all and end all.
Pointing a gun can make someone think twice about attacking you, but it can also escalate a situation very quickly. It's all a matter of which specific situation you think you'll end up in.
Why can't you losers just admit you like guns because you think they look cool and make you feel powerful. You don't have to keep making up hypothetical situations to explain why you're so into a hobby.
>>686866807
point of the exact flaws then, if not you just look like a whiner without a argument that for some reason thought you should add some noise
>>686854817
Yep.
>>686861398
Stun guns and tasers do not always work as advertised.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNXdzPTkviM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DdvkLhdAJE
>>686865306
That's why I put it in quotation marks. I mean they are the sort of person who wouldn't bother buying insurance because they think they can take care of themselves. Hence all the guns.
>>686866737
Retard. It never happened before the laws changed. Before the law changed in 1996, we did not often have shootings and semi autos were legal, you could own guns for self defense, etc.
Also, the gun laws did nothing to stop gun crimes. At all. Gun deaths were already on the decline 10 and 20 years before the laws changed. After the laws changed the continued on the exact same trend line.
Don't be fooled by Australia's anti-gun propaganda and do some research.
The places in America with the highest gun ownership, have the lowest murder rates and the anti-gun states in America have the highest murder rates. In anti-gun states criminals are the only ones with guns. Plano, texas for example has the highest gun ownership in America and has 0.5 murders per year per 200,000 people where as Detroit which is heavily anti-gun and has been since the 60's, run by democrats since the 60's too, has 58 murders per year per 200,000. If detroit were it's own country it would have the second highest murder rate the in world. If Plano were it's own country it would have some of the lowest murder rates in the world. Very far below Australia.
>>686867060
not wearing a helmet 24/7 is choosing to take responsibility for your head. just like carrying a gun is choosing to take responsibility for your own life.
>>686851995
Because I'm not a faggot gun nut talking shit, OP.
>>686865484
This is the reason cops, and people, should shoot to kill tho.
To avoid the awkward situation where you used your gun to disable, and tbey bled out etc, and you ended up drawing what you thought was a non-lethal weapon in that instance, and killed someone with it.
>>686867517
lol, well, if they want to be retards then let them, natural selection and all that
>>686862965
Actually the biggest threat of private ownership is the heightened suicide rates. The vast majority of gun related deaths in the US are suicides. Neither side of the debate likes to mention that though, because it actually makes both of their arguments seem overblown, and irrelevant.
>>686858986
>>686859694
It would actually pay for itself considering how much we lose from them coming to our country.
>>686866092
Why only part of you?
>>686867578
no, not even close
>>686851995
Hello. I am a liberal who believes in strict gun control.
>>686867211
because there's a clear cut difference between defense and murder. it isnt self defense if you shoot someone who has surrendered or is fleeing.
shooting someone who has given up or turned to flee is murder, and should be charged as such. you can avoid getting fucked legally by understanding how the laws work regarding self defense. it's not rocket science, most people are simply ignorant of the law
>>686867603
wtf is wrong with your head?
death was a possible outcome, they just shifted the odds so that surviving becomes a bit more likely
>>686867811
wut? now what are you on about?
>>686851995
>>686867894
Me too, a nice tight grouping. Great gun control.
>>686867684
actually, what you just said fits perfectly with the post you replied to. Suicide is the gun hurting the one it was supposed to protect, though I don't really mind that those people off themselves, insecure and unstable to begin with, better them than someone else in society
>>686868158
Actually all guns should only be in the hands of the military
or the police
>>686866425
No one is talking about self defense against bears in this thread you autist.
>>686868016
No nigger, everyone has this argument, but from a practical outlook, why wouldnyou ever tell someone to use a lethal weapon to disable someone?
What this says is, only draw a gun if you have reason to kill someone, don't expect them to live.
Police have stunguns etc, and so shoudk civilians, and when a agun is drawn, and someone is not dead, eyebrows should be raised.
The only time it is acceptable to use a gun is when your life is in immidiate peril that a non-lethal weapon couldn't aleviate, ie the other guy has a gun pointed at you.
If anyone uses a gun, they need to use the whole clip imo, and be able to defend tbat action in a court of law.
>>686867894
>>686868394
>>686868394
And what would that do exactly? Do you forget the part where criminals don't obey the law?
>>686868394
so you're pro police state. i hear north korea is a decent place to live if you like police states.
