Does this image annoy you?
The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood.
Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.
Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.
Does this image annoy you?
Because it says "IMPORTANIT" for some reason
It doesn't annoy me. It angers me.
No one cares.
the content, no. The shitty tumblr comic, yes.
I'm mostly confused, really
>>686303824
>the media
Only thing that gets me. I'm okay with the retarded Tumblr bullshit because that's to be expected. But what the fuck is "the media"? It's like some kind of general word for some kind of spooky entity that hates you. Is it supposed to be that same media that gives a male Olympic gold medalist some kind of award for turning to a woman?
>women should look like
penor when born = boi
vagoo when born = grill
Neither or both when born = Chromosome check then decide.
>>686303824
It makes me sad.
People with gender identity issues are either emotionally scarred or chemically imbalanced.
Instead of receiving pyscological help or medical treatment to balance their hormones to its correct state they push their body's chemistry into the wrong direction because libtards say its OK.
If age of co sent laws are there to protect youths because they're not mature enough to understand the full consequences of sex, then how is it acceptable to get rid of their penis before they even know what their penis dos!?
May be the little boy wants tits because, shocker, guys really like tits!!
May be the boy that plays with dolls isn't gay, maybe he's just destined to be a designer and dolls are just what he has readily available that has an assortment of colors and textures- maybe he just wants to design car interiors and doesn't realize it yet because he's only 10...
>>686305272
What the fuck is this furfag shit. I have no such thing saved on my phone.
Only backwards conservatards who are insecure about the validity of their own gender identification scheme actually give any semblance of shit.
Alpha out.
>>686305852
im not disagreeing with you man, but referring to yourself as "Alpha"? Christ.
>>686306222
Killer trips, and yes that's what alpha's do, constantly remind themselves and everyone around them that they're alpha because they can't stand the thought of anyone thinking otherwise.
>>686303824
slightly
>>686305852
You're not even beta, you're gamma.
Alpha make changes.
Gamma are content with the world around them.
You're too busy scoring a bag of dope to look at the world around you. Full on definition of peon.
>>686306476
>>constantly remind themselves and everyone around them that they're alpha
>>686303824
As a straight dude I literally do not care about the issue of LGBT rights at all, but as a med student I'm triggered by some of the posts ITT.
>>686305315
>chromosome check
Nigga you don't even know what the fuck chromosomes do, get outta here with that shit. I bet you didn't know that boys - with penises - can be born with XX chromosomes? And girls - with vaginas - can be born with XY? Human biology is nowhere near as simple as you make out.
>>686305521
>chemically imbalanced.
Fucking idiot. You think giving testosterone to someone with gender dysphoria is going to make them stop wanting to be female? You're retarded.
>how is it acceptable to get rid of their penis before they even know what their penis dos!?
It fucking ISN'T, sex reassignment surgery isn't available until you're 18
>May be the little boy wants tits because, shocker, guys really like tits!!
What the fuck are you even trying to say? Liking tits has nothing to do with GID.
>May be the boy that plays with dolls isn't gay
Gender identity disorder has abso-fucking-loutely nothing to do with playing with dolls. It also has nothing to do with being gay. The fuck.
>>686306847
>Alpha's make changes
So judging by the effectiveness of feminism nowadays and the fact a growing number of people agree with the content of this comic, they're alpha?
Also, I just attempted to incite change by offering an opinion contrary to the status quo of 4chan, which would make me a revolutionary alpha instead of beta conservative who are desperate to preserve things the way they are.
>>686307504
>I bet you didn't know that boys - with penises - can be born with XX chromosomes? And girls - with vaginas - can be born with XY?
Forgot to mention - that's not even touching all the other combinations - XXY, XYY, XXX, etc - that can produce a viable fetus. Anyone who thinks a "chromosome check" can 100% reliably determine sex is a fucking dolt.
>>686307788
Potatoes are not people, anon!
>>686303824
>2016
>vagina privilege
>only women with penises are oppressed
now that's patriarchy
It annoys me for one reason and one reason only.
I'M FUCKING TIRED OF HEARING ABOUT YOUR GODDAMN DICK.
>>686307788
99% of people are xy or xx right?
Evidentially making them male or female.
Just to be practical :^)
>>686308022
Literally none of these cause down syndrome.
>>686307504
Chemical gender reassignment has been given to children as young as 12 in the u.s
>>686307613
Your complacency and need to attack another subset makes you gamma.
>>686307788
That's why these are called chromosome anomalies. They are NOT NORMAL!
>>686309175
SHUT UP ABOUT YOUR DICK
DICK DICK DICK DICK DICK DICK DICK DICK
It's not the media it's nature telling you that.
I'm triggered by the fact that trans people say that cis people who aren't attracted to them are bigots.
Sorry if I like my women able to reproduce.
>>686303824
Yes it makes me very angry,so much that I am going to post about it. He is a man, but he wants to be a woman. He want ME! to refer to him as something else than what we (the society) have designed for the good of all of us.
YOU are not a woman, you may be GAY, you may be asexual, you may even be a man with tits and nice hair. BUT YOU ARE NOT A WOMSN!!
>>686307788
Ah genetic abnormalities. I wonder why they are not accepted as what they are. Genetic mistakes.
>>686305545
I had some image of desu appear in my post last week. The file I uploaded was in fact a Bert Erie reaction gif.
>>686308423
In my opinion, trans people fall under the 1% whose chromosomes don't match up with their sex. You can't use something that applies to 99% of the population to make a rule for 100% of the population, that's 70,000,000 people being fucked over.
>>686308739
HRT is not the same as "getting rid of your penis", though. And children as young as 12 are NOT even fucking given HRT. They're given HORMONE BLOCKERS, which pause puberty until they're old enough to make an informed decision. And it's a good thing that 12 year olds get given that, because puberty exacerbates gender dysphoria immensely, and leads to countless suicides.
>>686309175
>>686309585
They're genetic mistakes, but that doesn't mean people affected with those conditions aren't valid human beings. I mean holy shit, how can you accept stuff like androgen insensitivity as "chromosome anomalies" but think that transgenderism is a "mental illness"? They're the same fucking thing IMO.
> 2016
> The media
If some one cares about that today must be retard
>>686309012
I'll humor you instead of dismissing you as a troll who stopped making sense because he's been intellectually bested with ease.
>complacent
Obviously I'm not complacent due to the fact transgender folk are rigorously attacked by those who are equally so, which would render both sides gamma, and the only means of attaining alphahood is to be complacent with the status quo and incite no change because they are secure with it.
Now go smoke more weed and pretend you understand anything, faggot.
>>686307504
>It fucking ISN'T, sex reassignment surgery isn't available until you're 18
well that's just wrong, intersex people get their genitals chopped accordingly when they're born to ensure that they don't grow up as freaks.
sjw thread here in /b/?
fucking shit
>>686303824
>I'm an extremely tiny minority that differs from the norm in a nearly opposite way. Why oh WHY doesn't everyone immediately understand this!
>If only everyone changed the behavior that works for 99% of the time just so I don't have to deal with hardship. Change for me everyone, change!
Jesus fucking christ I mean it's not like there's anything inherently wrong with it just shut the fuck up about it and deal with your life.
>>686310071
>well that's just wrong, intersex people get their genitals chopped accordingly when they're born to ensure that they don't grow up as freaks.
That's not the same as SRS for trans people and fine you fucking know it.
>>686307504
>Nigga you don't even know what the fuck chromosomes do, get outta here with that shit. I bet you didn't know that boys - with penises - can be born with XX chromosomes? And girls - with vaginas - can be born with XY? Human biology is nowhere near as simple as you make out.
Got any examples?
>>686303824
>Does this image annoy you?
Yes, I can't fap to either
Its kinda annoying to complain about things in a general sense like 'the media" instead of targeting a specific example. And the art is dogshit typical tumblr tier. But I have nothing against the message.
>>686310266
>I am a straight white male so have never had to adapt to social norms imposed on them by a ruling majority since my identity has always been default.
Cry more, cissy.
>>686310543
>Seriously expecting entire cultures and societies to bend to your will just because you asked.
Great idea. I mean it won't work and everyone will just ignore you, but great idea.
>>686310543
There are more social norms then being straight and white you idiot.
>>686310710
Shhhh you're damaging their ideological platform of being racist bigots towards the majority.
>>686310651
>with that mentality we would still be living in serfdom, all be Christians, and black people would still be not allowed to vote.
H'okay.
>>686303824
does he think he is a woman ? even though he has a penis??
is it meant to annoy us because this guy dosen't know he's male or is he trolling or something ?
sjw here no....
>>686303824
no. the left one is a man the right one is a woman. It would annoy me if it was spammed, but since it is not, why bother?
>>686310710
No shit, idiot, but historically if you weren't straight, white, or male, you were degraded and discriminated against, faggot nigger bitch.
>>686310334
>XX Male Syndrome
The X chromosome somehow ends up containing the SRY gene. The outcome is a male with a "female" chromosomal configuration.
>Complete Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome
The chromosomes are entirely male (XY), testes develop and produce testosterone, but there's some kind of fuckup with the cells where they don't respond to male hormones. In the absence of testosterone, female external features develop leading to a female with testes in the place of ovaries, but a vagina and all the secondary sex characteristics associated with females.
Both conditions cause infertility and slight masculine/feminine traits, but otherwise the person can be perfectly healthy.
>>686310878
You've seriously never heard of a transgender person before?
>>686310845
>Not realizing that the minority in question is less than 1%.
Ok chuckles, but in every situation you mentioned there was a significant minority present instead of a tiny, tiny minority. It's not a bad false equivalence but it still is one.
>>686303824
It erects me
>>686303824
if it annoys or angers you, you're a little bitch, mufuckers whine constantly about people being "offended" about everything, but a dude wants to look like a girl and you all get butthurt, pathetic yall, pathetic
>>686309933
Your original post is the definition of straw man.
Avoiding the original question by diversion.
The fact that you're content with either option proves you lack initiative.
You're nothing but gamma, content with the world you're anded- only crawling out of your hole long enough to make a snide remark about the opposition (which was not even a part of the original topic to begin with).
>>686311133
me too, also nice dubs
>>686311201
>a dude wants to look like a girl
That's not what it is at all, but at least you're a step in the right direction.
>>686311071
What about the straight white slavic folk that were a slave race? You know, the origin of the word slave and all.
How about when kings and queens ruled over europe and the straight white peasant class were treated like shit?
Doesn't fit your ideologocal viewpoint? Let's just focus on the short period of time where a small group of white men owned black slaves, later to be one of the first groups of people to free slaves within a short period of time.
Let's focus on that.
>>686311201
10/10, would let this dude fuck me and finish in my butt
>>686303824
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>>686311302
what is it then yo?
>>686311071
If i want to use baby skins as clothing or talk to people by licking them I would also be degraded and discriminated against, why should trans people not have to adjust and adapt like the rest of us?
>>686311071
Historically if you weren't a large meat eating lizard you were degraded and discriminated against.
What matters is now, fucktard.
>>686311125
Are we just speaking of transgender or are we lumping in black people and women into these categories as well. Either way transgenderism is becoming more prevalent and the fact we still see it as a disease is atrocious.
>>686311444
check'd
>>686311444
THIS GUY GETS IT,
also
checked
>>686303824
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5LRdW8xw70
/thread
>>686306222
The trips have spoken
>>686311071
Nigger, historically if you aren't the majority, you're fucked. That doesn't matter what race you were; if you're in the minority, you don't have power. It's only recently that there have been strides to give everyone equal opportunity.
>>686311418
It's a person whose brain and body developed differently, leading to a mismatch between brain sex and body sex. I don't understand why people look at it as a mental illness instead of a physical condition; isn't the brain "you" and the body just a shell to carry you around?
>>686303824
>what the media says women should look like
this faggot serious?
I am white, I want to be black today.
Isn't this the same thing?
>>686311731
If you feel black on the inside that may be your boyfriend.
>>686311731
Can I be black as well? Then we get to have people pander to us.
>>686311430
Because both of those infringe on another human's rights, like murder or unwanted sexual contact.
If we're going to reduce our arguments down to the absurd, where the fuck do women get off wanting to be topless?
Or is that okay simply because you want to see that?
Narrow-minded faggot.
>>686311434
What the fuck are you even trying to say, that gay people shouldn't be allowed to marry because Christianity is the most powerful religion in the West?
Fuck the evolutionary premise you shoddily attempted to base your entire conclusion on.
>>686311444
Trips of truth. Although
>transgenderism is becoming more prevalent
IMO it's just becoming less taboo; I'm willing to bet a similar proportion of people have been transgender for all of human history but they've been too afraid to admit it because there was no treatment available nor would they receive support.
>>686311667
good point, i like you guy/girl, whatever you identify as
>>686303824
Yeah, women have a different hip/shoulder ratio.
>>686311430
Talk about a false equivalence, holy shit
>>686307504
>>686309820
>>686311078
Jesus fucking what is this tumbler
>>686311444
Transgender.
I'm saying that by not bucking up and realizing that you (the transgender individual) is the one that needs to have the hard time because you are so different from the norm, by acting that there is something WRONG with society/culture/media for being normal, that is a problem.
One issue is that transgender people are wrapped up in social justice, who just want to use them to push an ideological standpoint of hating men and whites. In this way the transgender person is an invaluable asset, the social justice person takes them in and makes them feel good, then turns around and uses their existence as a weapon, calling everyone transphobes.
Oh yeah everyone is AFRAID of transgender. The reality is no one gives a shit it's being forced on us and now we have to pretend like a .1% of the population is a very very serious issue that the entire country needs to deal with.
Fuck me.
>>686311861
Maybe you are black but you feel being white today... There is Genderfluid, why not Racefluid?
>>686311649
>basically cripples shouldn't be cateredti with ease of access parking because the majority are not crippled therefore those who are have no say or power.
Please crawl back to the Stone Age and relearn how to make fire.
>>686312006
Not really, they all show symptoms of severe mental illness.
>>686311619
I kekked so hard at the picture
>>686305852
>>686306847
>>686307613
>>686309012
>>686309933
>>686311266
>>686311667
only if you are retarded.
>This thread
>>686312019
Everything I've said is solid medical science. I'm not an SJW nor do have I even used tumblr in my life. Go read a fucking textbook for Christ sake.
>>686312224
is that a young Jon Oliver?
>>686303824
What the media tells me women should look like
>>686312310
nor have I even used tumblr in my life* sorry, typo
>>686311876
Hay I didn't kill those baby's i found them and I always ask for consent.
>>686309820
>In my opinion, trans people fall under the 1% whose chromosomes don't match up with their sex
>Tries to be tumblr
>Gets gender and sex mixed up
wew
>My eyes
>>686303824
I have a trans friend. And after two years you know what?
Fuck those mental limpdicks with no common sense. Seriously.
>>686303824
>importanit
>>686311266
You're against transgenderis, thereby taking a side. The third option is apathy towards the subject. You're contradicting yourself. Shut the fuck up.
>>686312471
>Tries to be tumblr
I'm not trying to be tumblr at all, I don't know where you're getting that from. IMO sex and gender are the same thing, but the one in your brain is correct.
>>686303824
People still have trouble mixing sex and gender. What you're born as = sex, and what you identify as = gender. I honestly think that the whole "I identity as a non-cis ikea table with specific gender neutral pronouns" is kind of fucking stupid. Every other day changing what you identify as. Pick one thing and stick with it... sure a guy has a penis but feels more comfortable in a woman's role, that doesn't make you a woman. You still have a dick dangling between your legs. I don't care what the fuck you are honestly, just stop shoving this shit down our throats, we don't care so stop waving your hands in our face and trying to explain what we are. Take your gender fluid bullshit out of here. Fucking snowflakes.
>>686303824
Not really.
Identify as what you want, as long as it can consent fuck what you want. It's none of my damn business what people want to do with their genitals, or how they want to view their genitals.
There's so many more important things in the world.
No, it arouses me
>>686309820
>I mean holy shit, how can you accept stuff like androgen insensitivity as "chromosome anomalies" but think that transgenderism is a "mental illness"? They're the same fucking thing IMO.
One has a clearly defined origin stemming from biology, and one is an abstract way that particular person relates to gender.
These are different things anon, stop trying to put intersex people into a conversation they dont belong in.
>>686312732
>sex and gender are the same thing
>>686311667
No. Your brain is all cells and chemicals, just like the rest of you. Take a physiology class in addition to all that philosophyto all that philosophy
SJW and feminazis are not welcome here...this "people" are the worst shit of the internet...
STFO,get out of here and return to tumblr or reddit and don't fuck here nigga...
>>686305852
>alpha out
>>686311444
Also women aren't minorities.
Blacks have a lot of problems, but we don't have any good answers on how to fix them so we just throw money at schools and can't figure out why it never works.
>>686312858
you are a nigger in the ass.
>>686311829
underrated post
>>686312732
>sex and gender are the same thing
My sides, why are you commenting on this if you dont know your way round tumblr enough to get the terminology
>>686312757
They aren't mixing anything, your chosen "identity" doesn't matter.
You are what you are, anything else is cosplay.
>>686307504
Fucking this
>>686313154
???
>>686305545
>>686309659
It's an age old bug. Sometimes pictures gets switched when people post at the same time. Somewhere, some lousy furfag is looking bewildered at your image.
why do we even care? Its not like anything is going to change for the better or worse unless your a trap lover and dont wont to be called gay I guess this would matter to you
>>686311375
No, it does, and they were slaves due to cultural standards set in place that weren't related to them being straight, white, or male, like Jews being discriminated against even though they were straight in male. The fact people are discriminated against for not being straight, white, and male is prevalent in our time. That is what needs to be changed.
>>686312070
>That needs to have a hard time for being different.
Nice high school bully mentality retard. Single out the pasty kid and pick on him relentlessly because he's not popular instead of addressing the root of the problem.
I identify as a Native American Attack Helicopter please stop oppressing me. OH no i've been triggered.
>>686305521
Finally somebody that isn't such a huge conformist pussy and can actually see through the crybaby tranny bullshit. Props to you anon.
>>686307504 Go fuck yourself you biologically stunted pile
fixed
Okay so we have these classifications for things.
Water needs to have two hydrogen and one oxygen atom to be considered water.
Windows need to be see through.
Notebooks have to have paper in them.
Birds have beaks.
Males have an xy chromosomes and a penis.
Females have xx chromosomes and a vagina.
It's that simple.
>>686313491
Honestly that just makes it funnier
>>686313651
Apache?
>>686313020
>One has a clearly defined origin stemming from biology, and one is an abstract way that particular person relates to gender.
GID is biological also, there are different theories for what causes it but it is definitely a biological condition.
>>686313043
Your brain is what defines you, though. The rest of your body is completely interchangeable. If the head transplant surgery goes well, we'll see real proof of that soon.
>>686313274
I don't give a fuck about tumblr's opinion on this issue, or what tumblr thinks the terminology is. Tumblr can go fuck itself as far as I'm concerned. I'm not trying to use the correct terminology, I'm not trying to be PC. I'm just trying to get my fucking point across.
>>686313659
>responds to scientific argument with "go fuck yourself"
10/10
>>686313150
Either way, they have been denied equal treatment until the 20th century, even though most of their rhetoric in today's society consists of non-problems.
>>686313805
Yes, i am a copter kin.
>>686305272
The media, like the Patriarchy, is the feminist version of the illuminati
>>686303824
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>>686303824
why does he have two sets of eyebrows
>>686313734
>Males have an xy chromosomes and a penis.
>Females have xx chromosomes and a vagina.
>It's that simple.
WHEN WILL YOU FUCKERS LEARN THAT'S BIOLOGICALLY COMPLETELY WRONG
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>686313576
By "have a hard time" I don't mean that they should be actively discriminated against, of course that isn't right.
Any minority has a harder time within the majority, it's basic. Shit like "the media tells me I should look like this". Well no shit that is what society at large likes, deal with it. This is why the concept of privilege based on race or sex is fucking retarded - everyone knows privilege is based on wealth.
Other than fringe cases, no one in our culture is actively discriminated against for being who they are. On a large scale this is neither true nor demonstrable. Everything in the "invisible backpack" is simply an allegory for majority/minority.
>>686314236
you seem upset
>>686313734
>It's that simple.
Read a biology textbook, you smug faggot. Nothing is simple.
>>686314261
>believing liberal brainwashed education instead of recognizing time-tested truths
Topkek.
Honestly, I have experienced this "gender disphoria" or whatever, but I know it's a retarded fetish so acting on it would be just as stupid as acting on the constant urge to an hero. There's no point either way, I'm a waste of space already, being a stupid tranny or a corpse would make useful people hate me even more.
>>686314548
>liberal brainwashed education
You have to be fucking trolling right now. Jesus Christ. This has been well documented for a long fucking time. XY=boy XX=girl is and ALWAYS FUCKING HAS BEEN the layman's explanation, because it works the vast majority of the time. But doctors have known that isn't the whole story for long before any of this LGBT stuff was on the radar.
>>686313812
Why even give a fuck? Ultimately, trans people are defects. Defects are taken out the the production line in order to have progress made. If all of this glorification or these defects continues, we will surely devolve.
>>686313812
>GID is biological also, there are different theories for what causes it but it is definitely a biological condition.
GID is a mix of biology and the way their ideas about relation to gender have formed.
Depression is biological also, but taking pills constantly to stop it isn't going to solve the underlying problem.
Its all pretty much summed up in the suicide statistics for people who have transitioned, transitioning clearly doesn't help all or even most people, and pushing this as a healthy solution for a lot of people with gender identity issues is like selling pills to everyone with depression
Hell, its like selling placebo depression pills as from my discussions with trans people the only really change is in their way of thought.
>>686314416
If they aren't being actively discriminated against or perceived as inferior then you're right, the majority has no obligation to stop finding women with big titties more attractive than chicks with dicks just because the latter feels insecure about being rejected. That would be a double standard and they should become more tolerant of a person's natural preference.
>>686311731
nigga u wanna get shot that badly
shieeeet
>>686314988
I like your style
>>686307504
>boys - with penises - can be born with XX chromosomes
Bullshit. Proof pls.
>girls - with vaginas - can be born with XY
Defective Y.
>Human biology is nowhere near as simple as you make out.
Yes, but not in terms of determining sex.
>>686315144
Yes but your logic is flawed, being as niggers can't aim firearms properly enough to hit any target they might have
>>686314817
>being this angry when is libtard bullshit is called into question
>accuses the opposition of "trolling"
>can't handle doubt in his observations
>claims to be scientific
5/10
>>686314261
>>686314817
Anon dont be such a cuck.
Obviously there are intersex people, but the male female paradigm is there because we reproduce sexually.
Intersex people are mostly infertile, and setting up a third option for them is almost impossible considering most of society doesnt even know they exist.
We can either give them a closest fit gender or force them to explain to every person they meet in their entire life that they are not male or female
>Gee i wonder if that'd make their lives easier
>>686315450
being shot by the popo....
i have not seen a sane trans person
they all act crazy or they are involved with drugs
ooooooor they're hookers
>>686315126
Actively disciminated against? I don't think so in most situations, though ironically bringing this shit to light so much might just increase that.
Perceived as inferior, almost certainly, I don't know if there's any way to avoid that, as it's nearly diametrically opposed to what everyone else experiences.
I don't think it's ever going to be easy, or fully accepted. A straight man will never want to have sex with MtF transgender, which sucks for them if they are into straight mewn
>>686315926
I work with a transman, he's cool as fuck.
>>686314862
Oh wow, a eugenicist.
>>686314988
>Its all pretty much summed up in the suicide statistics for people who have transitioned
Because they get ostracized from their families and communities, you fucking idiot. This is a problem with society.
>transitioning clearly doesn't help all or even most people
[citation fucking needed]
>pushing this as a healthy solution
It's the ONLY fucking solution available.
> the only really change is in their way of thought.
That's just straight up not true. HRT causes massive physical change.
>>686315354
>proof pls
See >>686311078. And I'd like to point out that
>Defective Y
Is completely false. Androgen insensitivity syndrome has nothing to do with the Y chromosome.
>>686315569
I never said that other sexes than male and female exist. Never once. But that doesn't mean that XY=boy and XX=girl. Again, see >>686311078.
>>686315685
True dat nigga doe FAM no chill im dead
>>686315926
I fucking concur!
>>686315926
>most trans people have unsupportive environments due to being different
>poor self-esteem leads to attention seeking and self-destructive behaviors
>niggers are criminals because they are black
>>686314735
On second thought, if it gets to the point where I have to choose an hero or chop my dick off... an hero is definitely the more dignified option.
>>686314817
>XY=boy XX=girl is and ALWAYS FUCKING HAS BEEN the layman's explanation, because it works the vast majority of the time. But doctors have known that isn't the whole story for long before any of this LGBT stuff was on the radar.
The absence or presence of the Y chromosome determines the genetic sex in all individuals. It just doesn't guarantee the individual will phenotypically look like their genetic sex.
/thread
>>686316373
>The absence or presence of the Y chromosome determines the genetic sex in all individuals. It just doesn't guarantee the individual will phenotypically look like their genetic sex.
This is true, but in terms of how society functions phenotype is *infinitely* more important than genotype.
>>686316185
how do u explain why trans people that go through the full surgery kill themselves or regret changing ?
>>686305521
But trannies aren't new.
They are ancient as fuck.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enaree
Jesus evolved from a tranny-boy god/ named Attis.
>>686316056
People felt the same with homosexes but that wave of intolerance has dwindled and most rational people now recognize those who are still opposed to be bigots.
Majority rule =! Sound logic
Same as above
Same as above but the straight man would most likely cease to be straight since most who are influenced into doing so don't necessarily agree with the majority anyway.
>>686316768
>how do u explain why trans people that go through the full surgery kill themselves
Ostracized from their families and communities, discriminated against, attacked in the street... gee I wonder
>or regret changing
That's /extremely/ rare, anon.
>>686316768
Because many who do so were never allowed to be secure with their lifestyle in the first place and many people who would see those who went through surgery as freaks.
>>686303824
Yes, because the original has a lot more descriptive text and you ruined the pun by making it so obvious.
Wholeheartedly laughed about the original though.
>>686316806
I think your logic is sound for point 1 - though I'm not sure past experience will come through, there are a lot more gay people than trans people.
Point 2 as well.
Point 3 - do you mean the transgender MtF would not be into straight men? A normal straight male will not be into cocks and trying to get them to be into it would not be easy/possible.
>>686316768
Because they finally realize that is what they should have done a long time ago and for the first time in their lives they decide to make the right choice
I think transgenderism will see the death of many feminist philosophies. All it proves is there is an inherent difference between being a man and a woman that isn't down to societal constructs.
Feminism and transgenderism literally cannot coexist.
>>686316768
Caveat emptor
They risked everything on a difficult surgery.
They might regret changing too late, more than at all, or regret loosing their heterosexual life-partner with their sudden smelling like a female. It's pretty easy to figure out,
Consider it a religious choice.
It faces the same risks to marriage as suddenly selling off your property to become a scientologist, only it profits the medical institution instead.
>>686316792
>>686312732
>IMO sex and gender are the same thing, but the one in your brain is correct
wat
So basically the pictured tranny cares about getting tits and looking female, but not about the fact that it has a cock?
>>686317573
I hope you are right, the current social justice movement is absolutely losing it's mind. What was that poster? LGBTQ for islam or against islamiphobia.
Yeah let's side with the ones who want to kill us instead of tolerate us.
>>686317295
Nah. I mean a straight man would never be into a transgender female because they would cease to be straight, although it is a possibility that some would, given the amount of people who enjoy trap threads on /b/.
>>686303824
couldn't care less.
>>686317638
Why would it not be? Your brain is what defines who you are, after all.
>>686317693
The original image is quite different.
>>686316972
so someone claims to be a sex they are not born with and we are just suppose to believe them ?
so what about the 50 year old that claimed he's a chick and "transitioned' back to being like a 10 year old. we're suppose to tolerate that ....?
>>686317799
I see, I was thinking more of the idea that a straight man would be into a MtF until the point that they were aware of it. So we are on the same page.
>>686317573
This.
I don't understand why transgender people reconstruct themselves to fit another genders stereotypes if there was no truth to them in the first place.
>>686317799
>I mean a straight man would never be into a transgender female because they would cease to be straight
IMO it's gay to fuck a pre-op tranny, but as long as the person you're fucking has a vagina it's straight
>>686317861
>who you are
not what you are
According to gender theory, your GENDER is defined by your identity, your SEX is defined by your biology. I'm all against trannies, feminism, all that SJW crap, but hard science tells us nobody is exclusively male or female in his behaviour, so I think that's quite accurate.
>>686317957
If he didn't know about it in the first place then the trans would be dishonest and should feel more secure about themselves so they wouldn't have to hide themselves and initiate a relationship on false premises.
And yes.
Being transgender IS a mental illness. Individuals literally reject their bodies in favor of ones that cannot function without abnormal treatment. However, I don't have a bone to pick with transgenders, as I find all people equal. The real issue here is that trans people are used as puppets by those that make them feel secure, and this causes an epidemic known as "transtrenderism". This is why people consider gender-neutral, agender, bigender, etc. to be real identities (which they are not). Being transgender is an illness that affects INDIVIDUALS, yet it has become an agenda that affects everyone in western society.
>>686317931
Sure we can tolerate it, or not give a shit. 3 Adults in their own private space can do whatever legal thing they want to do.
It's when ideologues ask us to call it virtuous or ask us to pretend how great it is, or make laws to let that 50 year old into a 10 year olds space that there are problems.
>>686311201
hey at least you acknowledge that they're guys
>>686317931
>so someone claims to be a sex they are not born with and we are just suppose to believe them ?
The key point is that they *were* born with that sex, it's just that their body sex is different.
>so what about the 50 year old that claimed he's a chick and "transitioned' back to being like a 10 year old. we're suppose to tolerate that ....?
Of course not, you can't transition in age. And in "stephonknee"'s case, it's clearly obvious that he is not a trans person but merely a dude with a fucked up sexual fetish.
>>686318243
I sort of feel like we should disagree more since this is /b/ so.
u r a butt.
>>686318077
Pretty much, but if you're expecting a vagina and she whips out a dick, it's fair to be repulsed without being labeled a homophobe or bigot.
>>686303824
The questions is can i fuck it
>>686305521
you are a fucking idiot
Yes, it actually makes me think /pol/ was right
>>686318422
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo.
>>686318434
/thread
anyone have that webm by the way? where the dude with the cornrows sees his gf has a dick and just fucks right outta there.
>>686318268
but we can't discriminate he's a 10 year old. he should be allowed to attend preschool and be able to play and interact with those around him
oops i mean her
it's not like She's going to rape 10 year olds. She just wants to live as a 10 year old and we should let her because she sad so
we don't need proof of how or why he behaves or thinks like that. all that matters is how he FEELS.
>>686318403
Who are you to say that she isn't 10 years old? Who are you too bastardize their personal identity, and tell them it's just a fucked up fetish?
>>686313734
>Water needs to have two hydrogen and one oxygen atom to be considered water.
Heavy Water is 2H20
>Windows need to be see through
Opaque windows are a thing.
>Notebooks need to have paper in them
unless they're notebook computers
>Birds have beaks
except the ones who have bills
>males have an xy chromosome and a penis
except YY chromos
it's not simple, YOU'RE simple.
>>686305852
>alpha out
Kek'd
>>686318966
The target shouldn't be the 50 year old with identity issues.
It should be those who want to being that person to light, praise that person and create laws around them.
The SJWs are a cancer and they co-opt people who are marginalized in order to use them for their own sinister purposes. They are a parasite for the least represented people, and by representing them in an abhorrent way, they only bring them down even further.
>>686318403
how do u prove that ?
how do u prove a man/woman is born in the "wrong" body
people don't choose bodies
we are just born in them
>>686315450
lrn2Reaper
>>686319105
>Heavy Water is 2H20
Nigga whut
Deuterium is still a fucking hydrogen atom
>Opaque windows are a thing.
Translucent maybe but not fucking opaque, what's the fucking point
>unless they're notebook computers
That sounds like something a two year old would say
>except the ones who have bills
Beak and bill are synonymous, holy shit
>except YY chromos
A fetus with two Y chromosomes would not be viable because the X chromosome contains most of the required information to make a human being.
Holy shit you're retarded. You're correct that there are more combinations of chromosomes than XX and XY, but YY is not among them.
>>686319382
>how do u prove a man/woman is born in the "wrong" body
By diagnosing Gender Identity Disorder
>>686319105
but yy chromosomes are a rarity and a genetic mistake. If it weren't a mistake they wouldn't be sterile.
>>686316116
>Because they get ostracized from their families and communities, you fucking idiot. This is a problem with society.
Generally people kill themselves before they transition if they are ostracized from their families and communities, or dont have enough money to transition.
People who have enough money to transition generally have accepting families or other social support networks available
I dont know why you're putting this entirely on society and flat out denying that there might be other problems that occasionally come coupled with being trans which may cause the suicide statistics after the operation.
>It's the ONLY fucking solution available.
And depression pills are the only solution available for depression.
>That's just straight up not true. HRT causes massive physical change.
Obviously, but from the people i've talked to the shift that really makes them happier is being able to present as the desired gender, the hormones have mainly been a way for them to present, and the difference in temperament ect are separate.
>But that doesn't mean that XY=boy and XX=girl.
Yes it does, if we are defining these terms biologically that is all they mean and exactly what they mean.
This doesn't mean that they necessarily develop secondary or even primary sex characteristics, but this is how male and female are defined.
https://join.skype.com/m1HPEvMx4wog
>>686303824
Yes, it annoys me. Nature evolved with two genders, male and female, for the purpose of sexual reproduction. Society reflects that. There ar some naturally-occuring exceptions to the natural gender distinction. They are clearly, from an evolutionary perspective, a defect.
In a free society, you're free to have your hair, clothing and genitals look how you want. If you choose to wear a women's hairstyle, clothing and makeup, but have a penis, that's fine and I support your right to do it. But don't act like it's weird that society takes note of the fact that you're choosing to be abnormal (as in, not conform to nature's and society's expectations).
>>686319936
A YY chromosomal configuration isn't even viable, but in any case just because someone is born with a "mistake" doesn't make them not human.
>>686307504
>>686303824
if you were born with a penis, you're a male.
if you were born a nigger, you're a nigger.
even if you spend countless hours and dollars to appear something different.
>>686311829
Hardest I've laughed on 4chan in a while!
>>686319846
>Beak and bill are synonymous, holy shit
You and a mungtard are synonymous.
Beaks and Bills are structurally completely different and each specialized for a particular function.
>A fetus with two Y chromosomes would not be viable
Double-Y chromos are XYY, not just YY. I wasn't clear on that. Either way, it puts a hole in your "there is XX and there is XY and that is that" bullshit. You have an overly simplistic view of a highly complex system.
>>686320141
No anon, the reasonable thing to do is campaign about toilets and force other people to change their language to make you happy.
Repeat after me
>I am the center of attention
>I am the center of attention
>>686319977
>This doesn't mean that they necessarily develop secondary or even primary sex characteristics, but this is how male and female are defined.
No it fucking isn't, otherwise XX male syndrome people would be women, which they are not.
>>686320239
Point to anything I've said which is based in tumblr as opposed to actual science. Any fucking thing.
doesn't matter
trans kill themselves
cuz the natural order of things doesn't allow that
weeding em out
>>686318894
/pol/ is always right.
Its never correct though.
>>686320604
>No it fucking isn't, otherwise XX male syndrome people would be women, which they are not.
Because one of their chromosomes contains the genetic information from the Y chromosome...
Jesus christ you're fucking obtuse.
>>686313734
/thread
>>686307504
>bla bla muh chromozones
THats why he said to check for penis first
>>686321074
OK then, are people with complete androgen insensitivity men? Their genes are completely XY.
>>686321334
Mhm. And people with ambiguous genitalia *never* have ambiguous chromosomes, nope ._.
>>686303824
>Media
>women - vag
>man - penis
wtf has media got to do with having a dick?
if you have a dick you are a man, if you are a woman trapped in a mans body, deal with it, who cares what people think.
Fuck you OP yeah it annoys me.
>>686313040
Well... I know my gender is male. But I always fill out "Yes Please" under sex.
Yeah, a little, they're so deep into their cups I can't even tell which of their many problems this cartoon was made to complain about. I can see them trying to use deconstruction but it's child-like.
I find it amazing I can have sex with trans people yet still find their propaganda irritating and their politics irresponsible. You are not hated by a ravenous gang of internet white men, you're hated by a lot of reasonable people for being obviously hateful yourselves.
>>686303824
It doesn't really annoy me. I feel sorry for these people. Transgenderism is a mental disease and society wants to pretend its a choice. I mean how high is the suicide rate for these people? Even in countries were they are accepted?
But no, we'd rather give kids hormones and mutilate genitalia in order to save peoples feelings. We are doing a disservice to these people and as far as I am concerned letting them ruin their lives. That's not to say that all cases are like this, I'm sure there are some that live happily, and i would never condone making gender change illegal or any such thing, just that the first course of action should be a psychiatrist rather than a surgeon.
>>686314862
I'm fine with gay marriage because they are removing themselves from the gene pool.
>>686321490
Yes. They are chromosomally male.
This is how definitions work.
Now if you've stopped misdirecting by pissing and moaning about how we define male and female, actually reply to the rest of my comment.
>>686319977
>>686321759
Before hormones and surgery they HAVE to see a psychiatrist. Its already mandatory.
>>686303824
It seems to be trying to make a point about something, yet is clearly nonsensical. like a child trying to explain concepts it doesn't understand.
>>686303824
Nope. A man can think he's a woman all he wants, even though he's not. It doesn't bother me though.
>>686321759
Mostly agree. but just want to point out that the mental disease part of transgenderism is the gender dysphoria itself, not the state of being transgender.
>>686321992
>>686321759
Tranny here, can confirm have been seeing psyciatrists for years about the mental disorder.
>>686321992
But the process is currently a joke. It's basically just them guiding you to answers. I also think it should be pushed to adults as well.
Either way I don't think hormones or surgery in kids should be allowed.
>>686321992
The psychiatrist's union thanks you for your patronage. You may now go forward with what ever surgery you like.
>>686304259
nah it actually just says important with a parenthesis next to it (VERY IMPORTANT)
and yes OP, that pic does annoy me a bit but not enough to argue over
>>686307504
So what is woman and man for you? Inb4 someone who feels like it. Because thats mean that you are faggot who like to fuck guys who tell to everyone that they are women and that why you think it's straight
*slow claps*
*steps out of the shadows*
Heh... not bad, kid. Not bad at all. Your meme, I mean. It's not bad. A good first attempt. It's plenty dank... I can tell it's got some thought behind it... lots of quotable material...
But memeing isn't all sunshine and rainbows, kid. You're skilled... that much I can tell. But do you have what it takes to be a Memester? To join those esteemed meme ranks? To call yourself a member of the Ruseman's Corps?
Memeing takes talent, that much is true. But more than that it takes heart. The world-class Memesters - I mean the big guys, like Johnny Hammersticks and Billy Kuahana - they're out there day and night, burning the midnight meme-oil, working tirelessly to craft that next big meme.
And you know what, kid? 99 times out of a hundred, that new meme fails. Someone dismisses it as bait, or says it's "tryhard," or ignores it as they copy/paste the latest shitpost copypasta dreamt up by those sorry excuses for cut-rate memers over at reddit. The Meme Game is rough, kid, and I don't just mean the one you just lost :^). It's a rough business, and for every artisan meme you craft in your meme bakery, some cocksucker at 9gag has a picture of a duck or some shit that a million different Johnny No-Names will attach a milion different captions to.
Chin up, kid. Don't get all mopey on me. You've got skill. You've got talent. You just need to show your drive.
>>686307504
> Med student
> doesn't refer to gender disphoria being medically indistinguishable from schizophrenia
But muh feels
>>686322211
Semantics, but apologies on my part
>>686322394
And I hope you are living happy with your decision and in live in general, but can you really say that most transgender individuals are mentally stable? Perhaps I am wrong in my thinking, but from every statistic and thing I've seen it only solidifies my thought on the subject. Again I am not saying it's morally wrong or that all trannies are insane (Though I do think you should tell your partner) only that I think it happens far to much that someone makes a decision based on a phase and then has to deal with it for the rest of their lives.
Now admittedly transgenderism doesn't make sense to me. Homosexuality is a reaction to when there is overpopulation or other dangers to society, but the mutilation of genitalia and your body simply seems like a corruption of that. Then again ladyboys have been a thing since ancient Rome and China.
>>686303824
No because it isn't a nigger fucking a beautiful white woman's perfect body OP
why do you ask?
Guys, why all this tranny flame war started anyway? Everyone know who is a woman and who is a man. Ye, it's pretty difficult to classify them, but, is it not oblivious to everyone who is man and who is woman?
>>686318894
I look like a girl so my gender must be of a girls. I can't take these people seriously. I'd imagine "real" girls just want to get on with their lives and not have people like this ruin it for them.
You either want to be male or female not transgender.
>>686307788
>>686307788
>Implying chromosomal defects and their associated complications doesn't actually make it Not viable
