Parents of /b/ What is your opinion on spankings? Me and my baby mama have very differing opinions on it and my daughter is getting to that age.
>>686120537
I spank my gf all the time, go for it
I don't think you should ever hit a child. Two points:
- It is weaker than you (c'mon its a child... physically and intellectually)
- you don't win anything in general
>>686120955
>I don't think you should ever hit a child. Two points:
>- It is weaker than you (c'mon its a child... physically and intellectually)
>- you don't win anything in general
You win a kid who's a productive member of society instead of a bratty piece of shit
>>686121144
This. In the rare moments that your kid needs fucking smacked, you better fucking smack em.
>>686121144
Yes, but the catch is on not overdoing it. In my experience, giving them their age in spanks in a good amount.
>>686120537
spankings are necessary.
if you have to do it often
its not working
>>686120537
spank the little shits. the ones that don't get spanked grow up to be spoiled, entitled little shits.
>>686120537
Spank your daughter. But make sure you get pics while you're doing it, then post them here.
>>686120537
Since you're on b, you're probably way too stupid to manipulate or later reason with a child, so beating them is likely your only option.
But on the off chance, it's really this simple: if a kid is too young to reason with then they won't understand why they being hit, if they are old enough to reason with that's a superior option because the idea is to get them to self-discipline, not merely fake it around you.
Also they might teach you things while you debate.
Why did I even bother trying.
>>686120537
Im in the same sitch....i want to be able to give him a swat , she acts like its fucking child abuse.
>>686120537
smack the fuck out of your kids so they don't grow into shit heads, but don't smack them too much, because they'll still turn into shit heads. you need to find a balance.
>>686122264
This exactly
Depends how old the little shit is
Mostly fine for younger boys not so much girls. You have to get more creative with girls. Instead of spanking her try making her hold cans of any perishable food out with her hands. Like she's on a cross. My dad it it to us and we hardly fucked up after that. There's not violence in it so they can't hate you for it. She would be holding them straight out for at least 5 minutes. Try it yourself before you do on her.
>>686122063
http://www.parenting.com/news-break/50-years-research-shows-spanking-does-more-harm-good?socsrc=Parenting_TWITTER_20160428000000
There are other more effective ways to punish your kids. I know for me spanking just made me disrespect my parents more, but idk.
>>686120537
Use spanking for quick shit, like if she runs in front of truck. But for other shit, like shitting on the carpet, you take away something she likes.
>>686120537
pretend its your sister if daughter or brother if son. would you hit them in a likewise situation or scenario because of what they did?
ITT spoiled little shits that had parents too pussified to actually raise them right
>>686120537
Anyone can be an asshole and beat the fuck out of a small child. I'm more interested in using these opportunities to help my kids learn. I use reason, humor, and sometimes time-out or I take away something they want for a little while.
My parents were clueless assholes. I've resolved not to raise my children the way they did. So far it's going well. Failure to spank my kids has not made them act any worse than their peers. When they get older they won't suffer for it either. They'll learn that they are ultimately going to have to make their own choices as to what kind of person they want to be, that their dad always will love them, but the rest of the world will treat them like shit. That's about all you can do for a kid as a parent.
But at least don't be a fucking asshole who beats his kids and pretend you're "teaching them something." Because you are not.
>>686120537
Spanking is for woman. As a man if you can't shake your child with a stare then you're a failure.
>>686121144
DUBS DON'T LIE
>>686120537
>asks for help
>doesn't read the fucking science on it instead
nypa fucker
>>686120766
We were talking about children, anon.
>>686123993
So was I.
>>686124111
MMM TRIPS
>>686120537
Spankingsvare OK but should be kadt resort. I leatnef a trick from my uncle. Works in most cases so saving spankings is easier.
>Put the kid in the corner. Start with 10-20 mins.
> Add time when they look back, complain, or talk if they aren't supposed to.
> no standing on tiptoe.
> its long boring and tireing
If you need to spank though don't overdo it and don't use something that will bruise. Avoid belts and shit like that. Hands work usually.
>>686124111
Kek
change the little fuckers diet its probably malnourished
hate begets hate
violence begets violence
eye for an eye
tooth for a tooth
u want allies or enemies?
>>686120537
Tell your kids what a spanking is, describe in detail how it is a tradition of many families and nobody is ever hurt or injured from getting spanked. Next time your kids do something bad, tell them what a spanking is.
There is success either way tho. A lady I knew who was 93 years old told me her dad never spanked her, but he also never fucked around. You could tell he meant business when he spoke.
put gloves in his hands and go 10 rounds that way its sports and not child abuse
>>686124111
topkek
>>686124111
Trips and top kek
>>686122264
This person has never parented. Ignore this
>>686122616
If you know how to determine a good study/article, you will realise this one is dubious at best. It doesnt say whatsoever the test done, the sample size, control groups etc. It just makes a claim. And is clearly biased and uses inane buzz words all over the place.
>citation needed
if he acts like a cunt take food off his plate at the dinner table
>>686120537
do it to teach your child things she needs to absolutely know. like if shes sticking a fork in a socket.
dont do it because she wet the bed or made a mess.
>>686125817
isnt me
>>686122616
honestly it would take A LOT for me to feel the need to spank my child
i do think its necessary
but only if theyre defiant
beat the fuck out of everything. Smash windows break plates slam doors leave a mess scream at everything pace around slamming your head into walls piss and shit on the floor bleed everywhere. you know, the usual stuff.
I was spanked by my dad when I was a child and it kept me away from doing anything bad, but I did spend most of my early life hating him and mentally associating him with something bad.
So, it might teach your child a lesson, but risks your bond with them. In my experience, at least.
>>686120537
Spanking really doesn't deture children from acting out. It deturs them from getting caught. Talking too your children and their actions both when good and bad things are done nurtures a more healthy descion making process.
But more importantly why are you looking for parenting advice on /b/
I was never hit as a child but I was very frightened of my father because he would yell and was very scary so I think you only need to hit if you can't punish them with your voice
Science shows it just isn't effective. Lots of studies available on the subject. AS some anecdotal evidence, I got spanked all the time as a kid and it never deterred me when I really wanted to do something. I my parents would have been arrested is they beat me as hard as it would have took to deter me from doing certain things. The probably should have been anyways (a punch is different than spanking though) It's way more effective to just ground their ass, and take shit away. No internet for a week? Fuck me I may as well be dead.
>>686126516
make him rip a bong hit instead
that ll show the little bugger
>>686120537
Would only beat my child if he does something ridicolously stupid that could either get him killed or land him in jail.
Thats 2 cases where they need to understand that they absolutely can´t fucking do that shit and using that tool too often makes it less efficient.
>>686120537
at best its unnecesarry, at worst it undermines your authority as a parent. you cant beat good character traits into your kids, unless you want a spineless little bitch for a child. effective parenting requires an understanding of power dynamics, the unique qualities of the relevant sex, and control over your own emotions. much of parenting is all about having the right leadership skills and applying them properly.
>>686121144
> i only know how to teach by fear and aversion
>>686124111
huehuehue
>>686126262
escalation
tit for tat
need to understand what they want.. and what you want... and where those wants intersect, emerge
>>686120537
ive never been hit in my life but i can see that different people respond to different things
some people simply won't learn unless they get smacked into reality. sad but true.
i say you should start out with not hitting (stuff like grounding, reducing allowance, no food). then (after several weeks) move on to grabbing and shaking firmly if behaviour hasn't improved.
if the behaviour still hasn't improved, what choice is there left? obviously nothing else is getting through to this kid.
i mean seriously, some anti-spanking/smacking people don't seem to understand that some people do not respond to certain types of punishment. these are the people that tend to fuck up their children the most
>>686120537
It´s very, very bad. It´s extremely damn fucking bad. Educate yourself OP and educate yourself NOW. Once you start doing it the fact that you will deep down know that it is wrong, will prevent you from ever seeing the truth. Your only opportunity is now, stay clear of the dark path that leads to countless problems in the future. Never punish your kid for anything, never use force and always, always. FUCKING ALWAYS reward good behavior.
>>686127202
>some people simply won't learn unless they get smacked into reality. sad but true.
should check if they werent smacked out of reality firsthand
I was spanked a lot as a child, I turned outo just fine. It does good.
My mother had a wooden paddle hanging from the wall in the kitchen. When she got it she explained what it was for and to fully understand each of us got a whack with it. It hurt like hell.
She never used it on us. All she had to do is point to it, not even say a word and we got the message.
>>686127400
as you can see im saying that physical chastisement is to be used as a last resort (though before medication or any other super special methods)
>>686127573
it holds them back years, massive percentages
its a very archaic mindset to try and beat something back into shape after its been beaten out
better off trying to fold samurai steel
>>686120537
The scientific evidence is overwhelming that spanking and other forms of corporal punishment have a net negative effect on a child's development and mental health.
>>686127265
This is where faggots come from.
>>686127265
>Never punish your kid for anything
>>686127680
boy - bongs & boxing
girl https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_l9qhlHFXuM
Spanking doesn't do anything.
When I found my wife, she had a kid already with her. This kid is an utter fucking dipshit. She has trouble forming coherent sentences and is constantly fucking up simple tasks. She's 10.
I've also had a kid with her and it's not 3. This little shit is smart. She knows how to use counter-reasoning, knows how to get away with doing things she's not supposed to and is getting pretty good at lying. Kid will make a great criminal one day, makes me proud.
However, no matter what punishment I've thrown at the dipshit she unfortunately already had with her, nothing works or gets through to her. We've tried...
>Spanking
>Physical labor
>PT (Physical training)
>Timeouts
>1-2 hour long sessions where we talk through and try to fix her fucked up logic
>Etc
Literally nothing has worked. I think she's just a fucking idiot.
Don't assault your children, I was under the impression that that was common sense? People who were spanked, beaten and physically abused as kids always turn out shittier. Don't do it.
>>686127832
they learn from their environment, punish yourself
>>686127716
this
>>686127902
No, no, no...
Stupid people turn out shittier. Smart kids figure out what they're doing wrong to get punished and stop doing it.
Don't blame people being punished as to why they turn out to be dumb fucks.
>>686127978
> kid plays in the street
Don't worry environment will punish him
> car drives by and bumps junior all the way into the neighbours garden
See, I told you!
>>686127898
Is she retarded for real or just stupid?
>>686127841
it's a nice cartoon but i don't see the relevance?
ITT a shit load of anons that shouldn't have kids ever
ITT: What's wrong with America.
No wonder everything has to be politically correct, everyone's so god damn soft, everyone's turning into a trap or wanking to them.
America has gone so soft...
Fucking millennials are going to start birthing children any minute now and be raising them. What a scary thought.
>>686128127
Just stupid. We considered that she had a mental development disability and bought a bunch of bullshit psychology books. We've had her tested and somehow, it turns out she's just an idiot.
>>686127978
>they learn from their environment, punish yourself
society doesn't work like that anymore
>>686128117
you have autism but nice try retard
>>686126993
This, emotionally unintelligent faggots who have no clue about parenting tactics
Sometimes what starts as a simple spanking feels too good to stop. Next thing you know, it's a beating. Then a savage one. The screaming is so loud but a few more blows should silence it. Mmm.
>>686120537
Depends, spanking your kids for nothing is stupid but spoiled brats have to be spanked and bullied into submission.
>>686120537
are you from America / the 1800's ?
I Spank my girlfriend will doing it. Now if you try spanking your kid you will picture landwhales fucking and hitting each other.
>>686128046
Depends on what they are taught.
If all you get from your parents is not to do something, because you'll get punished for it, you'll like not end up a smart person, since you're being taught not to question things.
If they tell you why and try to explain the situation to you, the child will have more opportunity to learn and thus statistically will be smarter.
>>686128139
>relevence
>girls
dunno same like the other shit teach them the artform, physical exercise/training, manual labor, get to help with jobs and tasks, always something new to teach
>>686122293
It is child abuse.
>>686128334
> not providing a source for your claims
>>686128218
theres more then 1 society
>>686127683
I wasn't held back at all, I am socially and mentally fine. I plan on spanking my kids when I decide to have kids. America has gone to soft to spanking, to politically correct.
>>686127832
If you think spanking and not punishing your child are the only two options that exist, then you probably aren't fit to raise children.
>>686128534
live in a better neighbourhood
legalise pot same class as alcohol and tobacco
If my kids act like spoiled shits i will spank them.
Otherwise i will go the route my parents did and let them figure things out for themselves, after a couple of cuts and bruises you find out what works and what doesnt.
>>686120537
Neglect is more effective than physical abuse.
If the child gets into a fight or something, just take it home, don't bother talking to it, and don't make food for it for a day or two. They shut up and real quick. This is generally what makes those quiet-polite-smart children.
Physical abuse generally leads to the shy kids with creepy, weird behavioral issues, like sucking their thumb in 8th grade and flinching when someone suddenly speaks up.
>>686128561
i have brain damage from all the repeat trauma - micro concussions from "parenting"
whats the matter faggot? cant live without your head chopped off?? ohh well you weak lolzzlkpz
>>686128676
How does that prove I have autim?
>>686124111
I'm cringing
>fedora pepe
>>trips
>>>ugh my head is imploding
>>686128561
Okay, you were spanked and you turned out fine. That's a sample size of one person. Not enough to come to any meaningful conclusion.
>>686120537
I'd spank my girls bum red and have a sniff of that that swole pussy while doing it
>>686128909
Muh ma always beat me wid a baseball bat and I'm the best persin in the world, smart too.
Billy, get back in here you little shit, you're gettin' the spike dildo again!
>>686128699
Yeah, i have some fucked up tics from getting my ass kicked in school when i was a kid.
I dont suck my thumb like a retard but i dont like people touching me and shit.
>>686120537
I was raised being spanked by my parents and caned at school and I have raised my 2 sons NOT spanking them.
Hitting kids teaches them that violence is a solution
It teaches them that you can use violence to get what you want from people that are smaller/ weaker than you
A parent tends to spank a child 'in anger', not when they are in control and this is not right.
My not-spanked boys are now 18 and 15.
The older one is going to study medicine at Uni and the 15 year old is a promising sportsman
Almost everyone that meets them from when they were small to this day has commented to me and my wife how well behaved and polite they are
We have had punishments but no hitting and long conversations and discussions about 'right and wrong' and 'consequences' etc with them since they were small and now they are exceptionally well equipped communicators.
spanking is definitely necessary, my eldest kid got spanked when she was a kid, never did her any harm, now she is A1 student and perfect child, my 2 little ones i have to spank occasionally
>>686120537
Depends. Respond to prove you want a real answer and I will give you one.
>>686128969
Who gives a shit? Fags like you will never have kids.
>>686128771
No, there is a difference between spanking and abuse, maybe if you weren't so stupid you could tell the difference.
>>686129369
>micro concussions
And gender dysphoria...right??
>>686129035
Yep. The worst case for neglect is you get some clingy piece of shit, or depression. Just stop neglecting them once their behavior is fixed (Or when they start highschool) and let them work the problems out themselves over a few years. Then they'll get good behavior without the problems of clinginess and all that BS, at the cost of nothing but awkward highschool memories. (Kids never hate their parents after they're adults, so they won't hate their childhood or anything).
>>686129473
What?
>>686129533
When people hear medical terms they don't know about, they think it's made up. Online, at least.
>>686125817
http://psycnet.apa.org/?&fa=main.doiLanding&doi=10.1037/fam0000191
160,000 is a fairly reasonable sample size. the website links the citation, requiring a single following of a hyperlink.
"Thirteen of 17 mean effect sizes were significantly different from zero and all indicated a link between spanking and increased risk for detrimental child outcomes. "
Abstract:
Whether spanking is helpful or harmful to children continues to be the source of considerable debate among both researchers and the public. This article addresses 2 persistent issues, namely whether effect sizes for spanking are distinct from those for physical abuse, and whether effect sizes for spanking are robust to study design differences. Meta-analyses focused specifically on spanking were conducted on a total of 111 unique effect sizes representing 160,927 children. Thirteen of 17 mean effect sizes were significantly different from zero and all indicated a link between spanking and increased risk for detrimental child outcomes. Effect sizes did not substantially differ between spanking and physical abuse or by study design characteristics. (PsycINFO Database Record (c) 2016 APA, all rights reserved)
>>686129631
If you are referring to
>>686129473
I'm well aware of those conditions.
>>686120537
Put the fear in them 1 or 2 spankings then threats should be enough.
>>686121144
Fucking this.
Anyone who hits a kid is psychologically and developmentally fucked. Punish them as much as you need but hitting a child does nothing but fuck them up and scar them for life. You get stuck with a person like >>686121144 who is probably just violent and listens to country music and thinks violence is the answer to everything.
>>686120537
Don't do it bro!
Now a days if you spank a kid everyone calls it corporal punishment then your fuckin kid tells his teacher and somehow it turns into "daddy hits me all the time" and it's like "have fun in jail". Shit escalates fast and children are vengeance seeking.
>>686129152
Think about that you fucking retard. Your "little ones" you hit them. That is fucked dude. Anyone adult who needs to resort to hitting a kid is a failure as a parent. Your kid should respect you as a parent. Not as someone who will hit them. Fuckin weak ass pussy.
>>686126993
>>686127265
>>686127716
>>686127898
>>686128364
Spanking isn't the one-all-be-all but it's a tool in the toolbelt. A combination of positive reinforcement (rewarding good behavior) and sparingly using negative reinforcement (spanking) for the serious no-no's will get results and also creates a kid that understands there's always consequences (good or bad) for their behavior.
>tl;dr reward and spank so you don't end up with a faggot ass millennial type kid
>>686130524
Thank you! Finally someone who gets it.
>>686130212
I am totally a pacifist when it comes to war or fighting, yet I think that my mom and dad who gave me a few slaps now and then didn't turn out bad for me.
I know how it feels when someone stronger than you rages out and hits you, that's why I never wanted to hit someone or hurt physically cause it sux.
You shouldn't hit your children when they do bad at school or something stupid, but hit them when they come home and you find out they slapped someone or did something they don't want to feel by theirself,understand my point?
I know a few people who spank their kids, when I ask why, they usually say something like "my folks spanked me and I turned out fine!"
So yeah, people who spank their kids literally don't know any better.
>>686130696
I do understand your point but it still doesn't really make sense. You can't teach a kid that violence and physical harm is wrong by resorting to violence and physical harm.
>>686130613
Yeah, after having 3 kids it's as much about training yourself as it it's about training the kids. Having lots of my own dogs growing up helped
>>686130471
We will see who's kid turns out to not be a piece of shit. People learn through fear, kids and pets are no different.
ITT: " Hurr spankings are bad because I was spanked for being a little shit as a kid and didn't learn my lesson since I was so edgy and rebellious."
" My parents spanked me because they didn't like me not because I was a spoiled fuckwad, it's bad."
Holy shit, don't listen to these retards they aren't even adults let alone parents. Yes, spankings are good and necessary. Kids don't understand why they shouldn't do things, they have no concept of good and bad. A spanking gives them immediate feedback that what they did was bad because it hurt and they won't do it again because it hurts them. When they grow up and become adults they'll realize that their parents were raising them to not be a little piece of shit. Looks like some of the anons here never grew up though.
Also spanking does not kind of damage to the child. Your butt is the most tender slab of fatnon your body. Spanking doesn't even break the skin.
This generation is full of puss iesabel and now I see why.
>>686128453
Do you even grammar?
ITT: " Hurr spankings are bad because I was spanked for being a little shit as a kid and didn't learn my lesson since I was so edgy and rebellious."
" My parents spanked me because they didn't like me not because I was a spoiled fuckwad, it's bad."
Holy shit, don't listen to these retards they aren't even adults let alone parents. Yes, spankings are good and necessary. Kids don't understand why they shouldn't do things, they have no concept of good and bad. A spanking gives them immediate feedback that what they did was bad because it hurt and they won't do it again because it hurts them. When they grow up and become adults they'll realize that their parents were raising them to not be a little piece of shit. Looks like some of the anons here never grew up though.
Also spanking does not kind of damage to the child. Your butt is the most tender slab of fatnon your body. Spanking doesn't even break the skin.
This generation is full of pussies and now I see why. I see where this cancer is coming from. You faggots need to go back to tumblr.
>>686131072
I dunno man. Regardless of my parents reasons for spanking me as a child, all it really did was make me distrustful and resentful of anyone with authority.
>>686128508
Fuck you
you should be able to intimidate your child without hitting it
Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent. Also, while it may seem critical to guide behaviour at early age, it is far more important to create trust, and to position yourself to be sought for guidance when she turns 11, and starts deciding whether to fuck niggers.
>>686120537
Don't spank em while you're angry, make them sit awhile before they get their discipline in order to ensure they know what they did wrong.
After the first two or three spankings most kids will just learn the "look" and stop acting up.
I've got two kids of my own and they are both good kids now.
>>686131307
Clearly someone failed to do so with you
>>686120537
spank your kid but don't beat the absolute shit out of them. There's a difference between abuse and punishing a kid for fucking up.
>>686131236
I got spanked when I did shit I wasn't supposed to do, I learned what I was allowed to do and not allowed to do. I do not mistrust authority nor do I look at my parents like I can't trust them.
>>686131353
>violence is the last refuge of the incompetent
Nigga that's my favorite quote.
>>686124111
this post is holy
>>686120537
I was hit as a child and grew up resenting my father. Assaulted him 3 times and still want to kill him. Hes not so tough when its the other way round
People who don't hit their ponies are the worst...
>>686128639
when the fuck was that implied nigga
>>686128553
heh heh, nope, you're just crazy...
>>686131193
>Kids don't understand why they shouldn't do things, they have no concept of good and bad.
Not sure if b8 or a fucking idiot / someone that's religious. Its people like you that are why those sand niggers in ISIS think its fine to decapitate, you ever think they were talked to as children and reasoned with?
>Why is the world so fucking stupid
>>686131236
>Regardless of my parents reasons for spanking me as a child, all it really did was make me distrustful and resentful of anyone with authority
>>686131072
>"didn't learn my lesson since I was so edgy and rebellious."
Good fucking lord, you can't make this shit up. Right on the money.
>>686131496
>>686122535
They can hate you. They dont need a reason.
My nanny used to spank me, and I turned out fine and not a spoiled brat.
On the other hand I'm a raging hard drug addict whose life is spinning into ultimate self destruction, so.......
>>686120537
Never spank a child when you are angry, that way you don't abuse the kid by either hitting them too hard or too much. Other than that like a light tap, just enough so they can feel it is enough, increasing slightly with repeated offenses but never becoming a full smack.
>>686126993
>I don't know how to teach at all
>>686128553
most societies are not a village of below 100 people anymore, people don't give two shits about teaching other people's kids anything these days because if they interact with them they are a pedophile and will be castrated
If you say "America has gone soft" I'm gonna assume you're retarded.
>>686129711
faggots. too bad, could have been a sexy video.
>>686129711
It's just not the same without the screams
>>686131586
Another kid that thinks spanking = killing and beating a child to death.
No, YOU are what's wrong with this world. Go back to tumblr you are cancer.
>>686131496
What I learned when my parents hit me is that people in power hurt you when you displease them. I trust my parents today as much as anyone. But the lessons they taught me with violence haven't faded, nor has the memory of how it felt to be struck by my father. It's easy to strike a child. It's also cowardly, because they are incapable of hitting back. Violence did not inspire me to be better behaved, it just taught me the price of being Caught.
Spanking is a decent way to teach your kid that authority is not on his side and will, at the slightest provocation, fuck his life over without warning. That's a great lesson to teach if he's going to be living in most places and isn't sitting on an 8-figure trust fund, but obv it requires that you be willing to alienate yourself somewhat as a parent.
Bottom line: Kids should know that the overclass fucks people up all the goddamn time. How you teach that is your choice.
>>686128508
Haha you're an idiot.
>>686120537
Hitting your kid teaches them to hit.
>>686131743
of course, the real phrase is "americans have gone soft"
Unnecessary.
Being spanked growing up and spanking others always gave me boners. I tired avoid spanking
Anyone have that issue.
>>686131600
>edgy and rebellious
7 year olds aren't really "edgy" anon. Or traditionally rebellious.
>have 12 yr old daughter
>raised her with corporall punishment since she was 5
>if she did something wrong I'd pull her ears, but when shed really fuck up I'd drag her to her room and tear her bottoms off and deliver some fierce ass whoopings, used to work like a charm and keep her in line for weeks
>recently though the last 3 yrs I've been having to discipline her like crazy but no matter if I use the belt or hand a d spank her till her ass is red as the sun she will still cause troubles
>mfw she punched her brother in the back of the head and then waited in her room with her pants off for me
>mfw I'm not sure I'd if spankings work for girls
>mfw I suck at parenting
>>686120537
As long as you don't get a boner from it, just spank the little shit
>>686131825
>No, YOU are what's wrong with this world. Go back to tumblr you are cancer.
Nigger im a sadist, but hey maybe you'll get lucky with a child like me i sincerely hope you do. Maybe if the world had more monsters there would be less people like you in it trying to argue that cause it worked on me and I don't know any different or better its a 1 size fits all solution.
>>686131615
that's because you're a privileged fuck who gets whatever you want...only rich fuckers have nannies raise their own kids for them.
>>686131973
>on /b/
>not erect when hitting a child
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>>686120537
Choose a different punishment. Sometimes spanking can lead to intense resentment like half the ppl responding to this thread. You want your daughter to be an angsty 4chan newfag? Just make her stand in the corner with her hands on her head for a period of time. It doesn't hurt them and teaches them to be fuckin patient and quiet. British au par used that on me. A lot more effective. It's like a slow death. She would leave me there for hours though.... I don't suggest that
>>686131372
This is truth. Waiting accomplishes two things. It lets you cool down and put whatever they did in perspective and at the same time it lets them think about what they did and anticipate the punishment.
Unless you're genuinely abusing your children spanking isn't that big a deal. The anticipation and fear of being spanked is where the real deterrent lays.
Waiting for a spanking is ten times worse than getting one. All these pussies in this thread crying about the children and how spanking is abuse sicken me. The only good thing about them is that they're going to get to raise a bunch of shits who are worse then them. I look forward to laughing at them while they try to control their kids in public.
Only shitty parents have to spank. If you lack the ability to get a child smaller than you with and underdeveloped brain to do what you want without force you've got to be retarded. My mother never spanked me she just reasoned with me. My stepmother spanks my half brother all the time and he's a delinquent. Gets suspended from elementary school and still pees his pants.
>>686131548
>the bullshit is strong with this one
Learn through fear, easy concept, been around for forever. Worked just fine for me, I have a great relationship with my parents, and they beat the fuck out of me.
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>>686131193
>" Hurr spankings are bad because I was spanked for being a little shit as a kid and didn't learn my lesson since I was so edgy and rebellious."
Damn, this shit is true as fuck. You guys all fell right into it.
>>686126993
/thread
What about punishments like taking away their favorite toy? Or if they spend more time socializing, send them to their room.
I used to work with kids. It seemed that the parents who hit their kids were the ones who could not figure out any other way to control. It really showed them to be unfit parents
>>686132040
Kek
>>686132026
>monsters
>>686131193
>spankings are bad because I was spanked for being a little shit as a kid and didn't learn my lesson since I was so edgy and rebellious."
>>686132030
My parents were DEPORTED from the country. They had to have someone watch their kids, sure we coulda gone to foster care, but being a privileged fuck, they chose a nanny..... Jeez fuckin crucify me
When you tell a child not to touch something, and they touch it while looking at you...you beat their ass raw OP. When a child does wrong because they are confused about right, wrong, popular, what feels good, etc..you sit down and offer support and explanation.
The reason people say hurr durr my parents did it is because they aren't going to take the time to explain themselves to people who can't mind their own fucking business.
CPS KNOWS which children need attention practically before they're born. Nearly all the rest of you are just salty and have terrible children/prodigious vendettas.
>>686132030
Or people who have got divorced/dead crack addict parents. just saying
>>686132544
Not to veer off topic, but how the fuck does cps know in advance who is going to get abused? Do they have fucking precogs, and if so why not take the kids away at birth?
>>686132544
>CPS KNOWS which children need attention practically before they're born.
you fucking utopians turn my stomach. go back to fucking tumblr
>>686132187
I dunno what's so edgy about resenting being hit as a child. I'd resent it if someone else hit me. You would too. If someone in school had beat you up as a child you might resent that too. Especially if he was older and a lot bigger.
I don't think it's particularly rebellious either to resent the intentional feeling of helplessness and anger you feel from violence you can't resist.
The question of if I deserved it doesn't matter. It didn't matter to me as a child and it hasn't mattered since. I will like you less if you hit me. No matter who you are.
>>686132400
>>spankings are bad because I was spanked for being a little shit as a kid and didn't learn my lesson since I was so edgy and rebellious."
Nigger you have 0 empathy for someone outside yourself, whos more edgy and rebellious you stupid fuck :D.
>>686120537
Kids aren't all the same. What works with some won't work at all with others. My brother's kid is a greedy little shit. Loves money and hoards it and he's done that since he was old enough to know what money was. When grandma put a quarter in his hand the light bulb came on and he went straight to Jew-mode. My brother punishes him with fines. Works way better than spanking.
Spank the kid and he smiles at you because he knows he got you to lose your temper. Take a $10 or $20 out of his bank and he dies inside.
His sister is completely different. All you have to do with her is tell her what to do and she complies 90% of the time. Just the threat of a spanking is enough to make her obey.
Give this a read, OP:
https://www.verywell.com/what-is-authoritative-parenting-2794956
Next time don't go to /b/ for advice.
>>686132762
>pretty sure you win that one faggot
if you're gonna do it, do it calmly.
my wife's sister's kids CAN NOT hear you and will not listen to you unless you SCREAM at them because that's all their worthless piece of shit white trash welfare mom will do for them.
>>686132683
Because they aren't a militia and would like to give every parent a chance to prove them wrong.
>>686132214
Or you could do the right thing, and hit them with their favorite toy.
>>686132735
>you fucking ______ians
Shut up faggot, you don't know shit.
>>686132857
So just going to ignore the first question, then?
>>686132987
>doesn't know what words mean
lol
If you have to resort to physical punishment you've failed as a parent and mentor.
How about we look at the world today? People started getting faggy about it, and now everyone is becoming self righteous pieces of shit. Social media is also to blame, but the idea comes from how they were raised.
>>686132683
Forgot to answer the first part of your question. People with shitty/patterned legal records throw up cross reference flags when doctors submit birth occurence to state insurance lists. It isn't 100% but its pretty damn close.
>>686122264
>>debating with a child who literally knows nothing aside from what you teach or what is taught in their school
>>learning from a child anything you didnt already know in the first place
So youre stupid and also dont have children...and we should listen to you because....
>>686132987
lol time to go back to listening to Imagine on repeat and let adults talk
>>686133230
No you are raising a soft asshole.
>>686133294
Do they actually have a database of that at CPS that they keep an eye on? I was being a dick at first, but now I'm genuinely curious.
>>686133303
>adults who have to tell children to leave while they talk because they have 0 wit
Perfect example of a type of people who should not have kids
>>686120537
The sooner you hit them, the sooner they will include physical pain in their risk vs reward estimations. They will be more likely to take risks for things they want even if they know it will lead to physical pain, possibly leading to more injury. They will be more likely to accept being beaten by people they love besides you, and they will eventually love someone besides you. That said, if they won't stop eating paint or masturbating in public or something, and you just can't stop them or even get through to them not to because they're too stupid or just don't care what you think because you're stupid, then it could be a net gain, if it's actually effective. Some kids will shrug it off after the second occurrence. You can't just apply philosophy to this kind of problem. You have to observe and measure what effects your kid, try things that give you as much information as possible, and try either the next thing or a variation on what has worked before the next time unacceptable behavior occurs. And you gotta keep on doing it, because what effects your kid is gonna change all the time as they do. There are some stages where they're double in intelligence over the course of a month, and simply aren't the same creature anymore, even though they look exactly the same. And before all that, you gotta have some kind of guidelines, beyond just knowing bad behavior when you see it. And you gotta figure you're not gonna see most of their behavior at some point. Really, regardless of what you do, your influence over them will be roughly halved every 5 years. 5 years is not a long time. They have books on this shit. Child psychology. It's raw, disturbing stuff. An undergraduate text book would probably be more helpful that a "self help" book.
>>686133371
well at least they won't socialize with your child in prison
>>686133432
Yes, anon. Especially if you're on any kind of assistance. It is their job.
>>686133525
Tl;dr
>micro trauma
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>>686131353
OP is talking about spanking, not giving the kid a fucking dempsey roll. A smack on the ass is just as necessary as smacking a dog on the nose when it misbehaves. Anyone who resent their parents for nothing more than a spanking is obviously still a child.
>>686133739
>maybe if I tag everyone I'll look smart
I didn't realize until about a year ago that I was absolutely beat to death quite often as a child. just kind of resurfaced in my mind. was also shamed a lot. from the outside looking in, I turned out an extremely shitty person, and I am mentally weak and constantly resenting my family.
from experience of being a fuck up burn out, don't hit your kids or shame them, or you'll have a weak minded fool like me.
>>686132744
>if someone HIT me
>I'd resent them too
>beat me up
>I'd resent them too
>it doesn't matter if what I did was wrong I didn't deserve it.
Holy fucking shit. You sound exactly like a tumblrina.
Do you even fucking hear yourself? Your parents beat you up? Show me where they punched you and brat you to near death. Show me where they chocked you. Anything? Thought not.
The problem wasn't your parents the problem is you and your inability to take responsibility. You just keep deflecting blame everywhere. You didn't take a second to look at yourself and what you did wrong. They're your fucking parents not school bullies and sadistic murderers. They didn't beat you, they slapped your ass because you were retarded, and seeing this I would come over there and do it myself. They weren't trying to kill you and they didn't hate you.
You need to stop and think instead of crying like a spoiled little shit. You think your parents WANTED to spank you? You think they get joy out of spanking your ass? No parent does, but they do it becauseit's necessary. If your parents hated you they'd have aborted you or kicked you out, not spank your bottom.
>>686133495
Ok, that's fair. Let me address your comment directly. A claim that an argument is invalid because it likens someone's ideas to an established archetype is at best dubious, and while there are examples of it being a reasonable complaint, comparing a view that a governmental bureau can predict with any sort of accuracy who is going to be abusive based on (as posted later) those with past criminal records is at best problematic because it implies that those who don't commit crimes against those who can defend themselves will not commit crimes against children who cannot is the pinnacle of utopianism in that it implies that a preexisting order can handle any potential issue simply by virtue of enduring design.
>>686133739
>OP is talking about spanking, not giving the kid a fucking dempsey roll. A smack on the ass is just as necessary as smacking a dog on the nose when it misbehaves. Anyone who resent their parents for nothing more than a spanking is obviously still a child.
Jesus, you can't even treat an animal properly you know they respond PERFECTLY to positive reinforcement right? Like you can train the worst fucking animal with positive reinforcement.
>>686133814
This
>>686133295
>who literally knows nothing aside from what you teach
Kids learn from every experience they have. They constantly seek out knowledge about the world. Not through language which they suck at, but experience. They want to be strong. The number one way to manipulate them is to bait their curiosity, or make them fear the unknown and hand them an easy solution.
>>686133739
I agree. It's a simple spank it's not full force slap. Enough to hurt him a bit so the child relate a bad behavior with pain and shame
>>686133739
smacking a dog on the nose and smacking a kid are two totally different actions. You can't reason with a dog because it doesn't understand language.
If you feel like you can't reason with your child you are a piece of shit parent.
Hitting kids only teaches kids that violence is an option if you are mad enough.
>>686133845
>You think they get joy out of spanking your ass?
Legit the only reason my mother used to hit / yell at me, it released stress for them and made them feel better whilst making me feel shit and worse. Even now as an adult trying to have a reasonable conversation she LAUGHS at what she did. Your move.
>>686131934
fuck off leafy fag
your opinion is worth less than dirt
>>686120537
Any kids of mine will be brought up same way I was
>>686133973
But at that point, do you really Stil need it?
>>686122063
Well said.
>>686133845
Motherfucking THIS
>>686120537
Was occasionally beat as a child and is currently studying for work within child protective services. Speaking as a representative for both these groups; don't hurt you children, OP. It will quite possibly fuck them up and make them resent you.
>>686133873
Holy fuck take the bedazzler out of your mouth and speak english. It isn't a perfect system, NOTHING is.
And if you don't think using past experience to dictate future action is correct...you are everything that is wrong with society.
>>686133895
>smacking a dog on the nose when it misbehaves
lol look at caesar fucking milan over here. I won't claim expertise on child rearing, which is why I've just been lurking the thread, but I can tell you with 100% certainty that dogs can be trained to do incredibly complex things with simple reinforcement techniques without even so much as touching them. Just doing basic housetraining/heeling/obedience is the laughably simple to teach with nothing more than hand gestures and a bag of chicken livers.
Whether that works on kids or not, comparing it to physically punishing dogs undermines your argument.
>>686120537
There are countless studies showing spanking is bad for your childs mental health. Grow a pair. Deal with the situation in a better way.
>>686133739
My parents spanked me with a strap, wooden spoon or anything they can get their hands on. I'm a perfectly adjusted neet.
>>686134179
Annnnd this is why people don't explain things to children. I take it back. I was right to send you to your room the first time.
>>686133495
>because they have 0 wit
OR because they're not retarded.
Kids aren't complete idiots, some are smart and others like you are mentally retarded. When I was a kid I could pick up on things and social quees quick. My parents HAD to tell me to go play because I'd always know what they were talking about. Some of which was none of my business.
Grow up.
>>686133432
No, they don't. People give governmental organizations too much credit.
>meme
https://youtu.be/X8dxf8Caj2g
click b8 alert
This thread is terrifying because it implies /b/ has children...
>>686133525
I agree with anon. Spanking just landed me normalizing violence with love- same with my friends who got spanked or beaten. It's also been proven to lower IQ, and it can cause the parent to escalate in harshness of physical violence if your kid has mental health issues or other issues that makes raising them difficult (and if she is prone it will worsen mental health).
Beating kids only makes parents feel better. It's a lot easier and quicker to resolve a situation through violence, but it just teaches violence is okay. Raise your kid not to be a piece of shit by not being one yourself.
>>686134214
>not telling people my child is spanked until after they comment what a studious, polite young adult they are.
Kys
>>686133843
>Beaten to death quite often
>death
>often
No don't hit your kid, it's a slippery slope and you will find yourself thinking about doing it for less severe things that just annoy you. This is how abuse starts, with abuse that seems justified. Any hit is abuse, straight up. Your kid's gonna learn how to be the adult she's gonna be and your palm isn't going to change a thing about her.
>>686120537
Spanking is retarded, if you do it you are just proving you are a manipulative fuck who can't give reasons to be respected or show you are right about something you think you are, so you have to retort to violence
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>>686134425
Found the autist
>>686124111
damn
>>686120537
Here's the deal. Authority has to have some ultimate form in case of insubordination. Most of the time it's fine and authority is respected, but when that is thrown out the window you need to be able to back up your authority with force.
All systems rely on this basic concept and without it authority crumbles and you end up with those single moms who are way too nice to their little fuckers that do whatever they want.
>>686134484
>Kid acts up
>don't stop him
>he becomes a criminal
>why god why
>>686134280
>yer a child
>>686134317
>grow up
Yes, yes...let the underdeveloped stability butthurt flow
>>686131969
I've actually seen this kind of thing play out before. Dads always end up drinking.
>>686134425
it's southern slang anon. also may explain my backwards ass raising.
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>>686120537
Also, you as a grown-up and role model should probably try using your words instead of teaching them violence as a solution, both for your own and the childs sake. If you find that you cannot express in words to them why their behaviour is unacceptable or come up with another sanction than violence you could, as a friendly reminder, consider seeking the help of a professional to aid you in raising your child. Good luck, Anon.
>>686131969
Sounds hot man. Got any webms of this. Does she often wait on you to come to her while she's not wearing any pants?
Once again:
https://www.verywell.com/what-is-authoritative-parenting-2794956
>>686134592
>Is butthurt
>calls others but hurt to for pounding his butt
>>686134508
Don't bother, these kids are cancer. Most of them are underage fags and don't understand the concept of punishment and responsibility.
>spanking is can only be good or bad in entirety and has nothing to do with a case by case basis of how it is applied in a situatuion
This entire thread is dicks
>>686120537
>>686120955
Any form of corporol punishment is okay as long as both parties treat it as such. You're supposed to make you're child understand why you did it, and tell them you still love them after. The point is not to hit your child to take out your anger on them, but to punish them correctively, and teach them the right way. The reason corporal punishment has a bad name is because of parents who take out their anger on their kids.
>>686134911
They also probably don't have kids and have never dealt with a high level emotional and mental breakdown of a 5 year old who seriously needs an ass spank.
>>686133895
Only certain animals can be trained at all. Dogs are a really special case. Cats, you basically have to breed them for obedience. Birds? Fuck you.
My parents barely ever spanked me, unless I was completely out of line. That being said I wouldn't recommend it.
I'm no parent, but there are a million other ways to discipline a child.
>>686134592
Just because people give up on trying to explain complex concepts to you doesn't make them butthurt. You dribble on the page like a retarded puppy and then throw a little fit when people don't treat you like an adult. You can either give adult responses, or you can be treated like a child. You can't tantrum like a kid and then expect us to respond to you as if you were behaving rationally.
>>686134775
>cannot stop being hurt
>is all the way down to "i know you are butt what am I?"
Stop while you have some dignity.
Its amazing how many people here would rather raise a shit tier child instead of being a good parent. Just keep beating your child, i mean it's not like violence ever did anything wrong, look at the history of civilization, violence didn do nuffin wrong. I mean its only in the past like 100 years and psychological understanding that we have stepped on the moon, created computers capable of trillions of calculations per second and almost at the point of self driving cars that are safer than a human but hey, keep smacking that child clearly little allahu snackbar will thank you for it later in life creating a suicide belt, or in the case of /b/ parents shoot up a school, somehow doubt kids could build a bomb based on /b/'s parenting methods and inability to educate a child.
Most of /b/ was spanked as a child.
Isn't that evidence enough that spanking is bad?
>>686135050
Ehm, what about carrier pigeons, hunting birds and the like? Birds are considered pretty smart.
>>686135025
Yep, they think telling little Timmy "stop" is going to make him stop or ignoring him and giving the 'silent treatment' will work.
>>686135084
>tantrum
Me: shut up idiot
You: wall of butt lava
Kay.
I was rarely spanked, unless I was being a complete shit, and then only by my mom.
That said, I don't know how effective it is, and I'm more a subscriber to the psychological terror brand of parenting.
My dad was like that. He never laid a hand on me. Didn't have to. He'd correct my behavior just by looking at me like he might get up out of his chair.
Why the fuck is this a ser I us thread instead of spanking porn ? Something something summer in here
>>686135317
QED
>>686135343
>ser I us
Good evening to you, serjo.
Spanking is lazy. Positive parenting is the correct way to parent, period, and it works, period. The most worst parents complain their children are out of control, are the ones who've been spanking since they were 2 years old, guess what? Spanking stops working after a while. Positive reinforcement never stops working.
>>686135449
this
>>686135084
>on 4chin, no one knows you're a retarded puppy dribbler
Fucking kids, kek.
>>686126993
You can't reason with a child until they reach a certain age. Violence is the only thing that gets the point across.
>>686135353
QUID PRO QUO CLARICE...QUID PRO QUO
>>686120537
Perfectly normal and doesn't leave any sort of emotional scarring so there's no problem with it
>>686120537
Spank it yes if it deserves but never hit it in the head imo
>>686124111
lel
>>686135571
What age would that be? Out of curiosity
>>686135266
Being smart and being obedient are miles apart. There are kinds of octopuses as intelligent as man, and they will steadfastly apply that intelligence to running from or killing you even though they recognize you because their motivations are completely alien.
>>686134110
So you will just copy whatever your father did however shitty it was (and it was since you don't seem to be able to think by yourself) instead of improving it or actually putting some effort at raising your child to be smart and not another hardheaded idiot.
>>686124111
Top kek
>>686135449
Yep totally true, not at all fabricated by a kid with no children.
Take it from a guy who got charged with abuse for spanking.
It's not worth it. Don't do it. Good ol fashioned tine out facing the door or wall is enough.
>>686124111
These trips are delicious
Becoming a parent is always a bad decision. You've basically ruined someone's life by giving them one. Why would you hurt someone you love like that?
>>686122972
>shitting on the catpet
Are you confusing kids with dogs anon?
>>686135800
what state?
>>686133845
You sure seem to know a lot about someone you've never met. You don't know how I felt after the fact. You don't know how much shame and guilt I would feel.
What you're telling me is that I deserved it. That I needed to be beaten more. That I am a better person now because they did.
You don't know a fucking thing about a fucking thing. You don't know my parents and you don't know me.
I remember what it was like to be hit as a child. And don't mince words and say it was just "a spanking." I am never doing that to my child.
>>686135684
Sure it is, but there a lot of animals that can be trained.
It just sounded weird that you'd imply only dogs can really be trained.
I only spank my son when he deliberately disobeys me. First is a command, if it doesnt work I give the stare. If it doesnt work I raise my voice and if that doesnt work I give an appropriate amount of slaps to his ass, pants on, less sting. Protip: that always works.
>>686120537
Never had to do it, I suppose I would if a situation arose, but I have intelligence and skill. An hour stuck in a room with me while let fly at my girls for screwing up seemed far more effective. Some times you can't just beat your way to a shorter solution, you have to put a little time into making a capable adult. But that's modern old school parents, I'll beat him so I can get back to my beer and smokes faster.
Statistically kids that are physically punished by their parents commit more rimes and earn less money though their lives. There's a pretty sound argument for the fact that less educated and less intelligent parents are more likely to hit their children and lack of education and poverty are hereditary. So it most likely has nothing to do with getting smacked at all, it may just come from having stupid people for parents.
>>686135933
lmao
>>686135681
Every child develops differently.
It's about the time they go to school though so around 4-5
Most parents should be able to have a full on conversation with their child by the time they are 4
Go to any trap thread and ask if they were spanked as children
>>686135800
>an actual real response
What keeps them in time out?
>>686135449
My life experience, and watching how my brother turned out with "positive reinforcement" says, no matter what your kids will be the way they wanna be. But spanking damn sure helps. So you have no idea what the fuck your saying. Quit regurgitating Harvard STUDENT studies you hippie.
I don't have any kids but I have dated some single moms and i tell ya what, beating a no good kid like once sets them straight for years.
>>686134944
Guaranteed no replies
>>686136002
And after that age you'd recommend against spanking at all, or just deliver it with a reasonable explanation to the child?
>>686135969
A bird is never really trained, though. They're always like a day or a week away from shrugging off any behaviors you condition them for.
>>686136057
Christ. Figured the bible belt put the emphasis on BELT. Were you spanking them with a fencing wire or some shit? Did you get convicted?
>>686136230
> citation needed
How about elephants or horse? We even trained orcas to do ridiculous shit.
>>686135973
Threat response progression? That sounds entirely too logical, anon. Spanking is wrong because it causes micro PTSD and phantom fecal syndrome
>>686134582
That wouldn't happen, if a kid were to act up i would be actually proud and try to show why i think i'm right in said situation, if i'm proven wrong i stand corrected and i learned something new, good for both of us. If he has enough judgement to stand up he is a reasonable human being and i have done my job. They would be way more likely to violently rebels by being treated like inferior by tiranious parents.
>>686135958
>You don't know how I felt after the fact. You don't know how much shame and guilt I would feel.
>You don't know ME!!!!!
>You don't know anything!!!!!!!!!!!!
>These are my feels!
>MY FEELS!
Wew lad. Edgiest post I've seen all day. Tumblr is that way. Whenever you grow up, take responsibility, and gain perspective you can come back. Until then you have to leave because you are underage.
>>686136134
Well he has atleast 1, so youve contradicted yourself.
>>686136339
>when you fart and think you shat yourself but didn't - before anyone asks
>ITT: People arguing that spanking worked
Tell you what it sure made all you negative individuals set in your ways of fucking things up for everyone lol. Imagine what your life would be like if you didn't instantly think "better hit this little shit that wont stop crying and screaming to stop it". I know its alien and you guys lack empathy to have this point of view but worth a shot.
>>686136265
No jail time. But now I have to have supervised visitation. I wasn't trying hurt him, but damn he bruises like a Banana.
Daycare saw it and decided to be nosy.
>>686135984
you have a snotty attitude. What statistics do you have to show that "intelligent" parents wont hit their kids and creat bad offspring?
>>686136469
>they are all me, and none of them are "replies" just quotes.
Insert penis in mouth
>>686136165
After that age if you haven't found other ways to punish your child, and explain to them what they did was wrong, and there are consequences to their actions you're probably not taking parenting seriously enough. Spanking after that age would be for extreme circumstances, and even then it stop being effective at around 8-9.
If you ask most kids around 8-10 if they would rather be grounded for a week, or get a spanking most of them would choose the few minutes of pain over the week of not being able to have fun.
Like I said earlier though every situation is different. This is just generalizations.
>>686136339
>Phantom fecal syndrome
If you just neglect the regardless of what they do, they won't try to hide anything from you, and you can do more subtle things to keep them from hurting themselves. Just don't reward any behavior that isn't leaving you alone, and punish loud noises and interruptions with taking away things they like.
>>686136339
>ptsd
Get ahold of yourself.
>>686136641
Am gripping myself tightly stranger
Whats the proper way to hit a child without leaving a mark? I know your suppposed to put the mark into ice water several times afterwards though
>>686136641
>triggered
>>686136722
Don't hit them that hard, idjit.
Wait until she's a teenager.
>>686136620
>taking away things they like
like use of their limbs
>>686136722
According to the kids here it's impossible. You'll always leave a mark either physically, emotionally, or both.
>>686133739
idiot, if they resent you for more than a few seconds youve failed. give a young kid who almost runs out in front of a bus a slap on the wrist, give an older kid who steps out of line a sit down and a talking to, after hes been let know hes in trouble and has been sent to his room to consider what it is hes done, the consequences for his actions, and his reasoning for doing them.
theres nothing magical about spanking a kid, it gets you nowhere in the long run.
I get erections when i spank my teen daughter while she struggles and cries and apologizes. But I honestly only punish her when I have to. Am I a pedophile?
>>686136602
Well at least you sound like someone who thought about spanking.
I guess to some degree you're right, but I'd like to think you can achieve similar effects through threatening behaviour.
Kinda like some people mentioned already, first you ask, then you tell, then you scowl, then you look murderous and when you get up, he should already be fleeing to his room.
But it definitely depends on the child and parents individually.
>>686120537
Me- spanked while growing up, very frustrating since it was usually for some bullshit, age was the typical amount of hits, stearing me toward complacency by the time teenage years came around.
Buddies daughter, just punked her out as a baby/ small child, enough so she's trained but doesn't remember.
Then there's his cousin, one of them 'omg there's never a reason' plp. Long story short pos brat finally got his first spanking in fostercare. Nearly got them in trouble screaming about abuse. They said lol spankings.
One of the stories with his is him tyring to swing on me, ofc he's tiny so just held him still, looked him dead in the eyes and asked him if he wanted me to swing back, he swung a couple more times, I pointed out I'd be swinging as hard as he was trying,
>think train activated
Stop swinging but tried to move on with logic as an emotionaly and intelectually stunted 4 yr old....
Spent the rest of his time here trying to get me in trouble for not letting him have free roam/ be a pos.
Smaking your kid is nessesary part of trainging. I don't like hitting dogs but when a 'bad dog' doesn't get through you give them a smack, you don't just keep dealing with its bullshit cause its your baaby.
Tldr spank, but spank right and spank early.
>>686136620
I don't know if this is genius, or borderline child abuse.
I think both.
>>686137049
>I get erections when i spank my teen daughter while she struggles and cries and apologizes. But I honestly only punish her when I have to. Am I a pedophile?
Nigger you a sadist, do you also feel bad? if not prolly psycho /b/ro.
>>686137022
>your kids can never resent you
You're a parent first, a friend second...its your job to make hard choices so they dont all grow up to be chavs.
>>686137012
its not about emotional, its about a physical mark. For the face especially
>>686135973
Have you tried asking why did he disobey you and having an actual conversation instead of threateaning him while making yourself feel superior? Do you want to raise a child to be a functioning human or a servant who's a reflection of yourself that will not work to improve and progress society as the next genearation in any way?
Thread is dicks
>>686137251
Oh, in that case a frozen bag of peas and a slice of steak should do it.
>>686137131
Why do you say that?
>>686137278
A servant.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3uFUjWhfdE
This thread.
>>686137196
and what is a parent? a parent is a leader, someone to be respected and followed. you can only lead if you are seen as competent, and competent leaders dont act on emotion. they are rational, and consider their actions carefully to ensure they have the desired outcome. the best way to discipline a child is to demonstrate this, and have them understand that you have a great deal more experience than them, and thus are worth following. this is what is necesarry to be respected as a parent.
>>686120537
been proven to damage the child mentally
also its child abuse
for reference, idc if you "turned out fine". my grandad smoked all his life and died without any cause being linked to smoking, but none of you cunts would argue smoking is okay
>>686137278
There is not something called 'society' that you are a pargt of. There's just you, your family and friends, and approaching death.
