Unpopular Opinion:
I don't think vaping is so bad. It's keeping kids away from drugs as long as they're not using nicotine e-juice. It's a fun thing to do in spare time and has almost no side effects. Thoughts?
I think it's a good thing as long as people aren't being obnoxious about it. I do it at home and don't give a fuck, but when I'm out in public I'm pretty discrete about it because I know that people aren't impressed by it.
Vaping in itseld isn't really bad. It's the autists who vape that make it bad.
yeah ofcourse you're right, but it's the fact that adults with a godcomplex use them out in public that's the problem. it's a fine "hobby" or whatever, but it's fucking gay to do in public
>>685636985
it should be treated in the law exactly the same as normal cigarettes, just because its not burning doesn't stop it from having all the same social problems as real ones.
the one legal exception is that they should be covered by local laws covering hookahs
>>685636985
Kids and faggots should stay away from vaping, only cool people should vape.
>>685637187
And wtf you talking about I get people admiring my vape all the time when I'm about town.
>>685637775
>>685636985
>Almost no side effects
B...but I thought it was just water vapor.
Just a bunch of dumbasses huffing on flavoring and propylene glycol.
The fcc and ad council should be ashamed for letting the tobacco industry back into the advertisement game.
Take your 'freedom' [to poision yourself and those around you] back america!
Vape Nache ya'll!
Like most good things it's not the thing itself but the people who do it.
>>685637775
But to be cool, you have to wear a fedora
>>685638228
The tobacco industry has little to do with it. In fact they're the ones backing the FDA to put a huge restriction on vaping products.
>>685638228
Propylene glycol is FDA approved for use in food, you eat it all of the time. I will give you that there is no data concerning it's long term effects when vaped, but otherwise the only danger is e-juices with diacetyl in them. Just know what's in your e juice.
>>685638228
Even if it isn't "just water vapor", it doesn't mean that it gets you high or has any bad side effects.
>>685637775
The vape is a modern day must have accessory to carry, much as a mobile phone.
started when i was 15 on homemade vg mixed with bud back when it was hella hard to get any premixed ejuice without nicotine
only fags smoke analogs
>>685636985
only fags smoke fags
I like to do it, but I'll admit it looks gay as fuck. It's pretty fun though so I don't really care, but I don't like to "blow clouds" in public because it is just plain annoying to those around me.
>pic related
>>685637775
>admiring my vape
>>685639183
How do you like the TFV4?
>>685636985
it looks like sucking a nigger dick
I've been vaguely considering getting one just cause I like all the things you can do with the vapour and the aspect of tinkering with your own mouth fedora but I'm somewhat put off by the thoroughly cancerous sorta fanbase, for lack of a better word, it has
I wouldn't do it in public. Hell, if I see people doing it in public I'll assume they're a bit of a faggot
Love my vape. Got some THC liquid from WA not to long ago. It's pretty badass.
The issue with vaping is that while the chemicals used in the juice may be safe for people in normal conditions, they often can be dangerous when heated or inhaled into the lungs. Just because something is "safe for consumption" doesn't mean it's safe to heat it up and breathe it in.
Hell, look at teflon pans. You cook your food in them all day but heat that pan up and breathe in the fumes and you get flu like symptoms for a few days.
>>685639771
You shouldn't get one, you need to do a lot of research to build your ideal rig and you don't seem to have the chops for it. Plus your views on vaping enthusiasts and hobbyists is wrong and judgemental.
>>685636985
Who gives a fuck about nicotine? I want one e-juice with an absurd(more than 48mg/ml) quantity of nicotine and also with mdpv
>>685637277
Yes, in public looks gay as fuck. In public only cigarettes
>>685637187
>I'm pretty discrete about it because I know that people aren't impressed by it.
You're still a fucking tool for letting others control you like that
>>685640034
> Inhaling Teflon vs. Oil.
You must be trolling.
I don't think vaping is good for you but I'm also pretty sure it won't turn your lungs black.
>>685637475
In terms of locations allowed for vaping it is treated the same as smoking in Canada. That's fine with me. I vape but i have no problem avoiding areas where it may irritate others.
>>685638228
Hmm... I recall a study that vaping might give you popcorn lung. I didn't read too much into it because I don't care if others kill themselves but it's certainly possible that flooding your lungs with crap will still kill you. Vaping is pretty new so it'll be awhile before we see the consequences.
>>685640223
>Yes, in public looks gay as fuck. In public only cigarettes
You are still gay as fuck.
see >>685640511
Smoke cigarettes like a man.
Let that carcinogens come, faggots. Ure not going to live forever anyways.
why has everything to be 'safe'? are you all underage?
>>685640511
It's not about letting people control me, it's about no wanting to make a show of it. You want to impress your friends? Go outside, pull down your pants, and jerk off, fucking jerk off.
>>685640131
lel well thanks
I wouldn't be opposed to researching, it's something to do with my time and I'll have plenty of that for the next couple of months
>>685636985
Im terms of keeping kids off drugs, people make spice e juices which makes it not only more accessible but you can be zonked out just about anywhere in front of anyone.
>>685640889
>>685639499
It's a decent tank, LOTS of vapor production. If you have a lot of juice on hand it isn't bad, but it can be wasteful if you are running out. Mine had a leaking problem for a while though that was really annoying.
>>685640889
I'm 32 and ex smoker. I like being able to breath again. To not have tobacco smell clinging to me all the time. To not coughing up phlegm all the time.
Vaping is a hobby, it takes great skill to make a good vape. Its like playing a sport or making art.
>>685640687
That was actually just busted recently. They confirmed that cigarettes contain much more of the harmful "popcorn lung" substance, and hardly anyone has been truly diagnosed with it.
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>>685636985
No side effects that we KNOW of YET. Watch this shit turn out to be giving people supercancer.
>>685641482
Is it especially expensive? is the community around it, excluding the chads and assburger edgelords, alright?
my ex vaped and he was a huge faggot about it, kind of acted like it made him cool and whatnot even though he just looked like a fag. but whoever actually vapes to quit smoking or just as a descrete hobby, good on you.
>>685641628
my parents vape, been off of the cigs for nearly 2 years now, i still smoke and they spend twice as much as me on vaping as opposed to me smoking 20 cigarettes a day.
btw i'm from the uk so a pack of 20 is roughly £8 or $15.
Vaping chemicals from China isn't a good idea I would prefer my kid smoking marijuana than this shit.
>>685641914
I spent £60 on a Vape that lasts me for 4-6 months then buy a box of E-Juice for £10 that lasts me a week. Plus Electricity thats £50 a month so for me it costs alot less than 20 lambert and butlers a day.
>>685641914
hm, well I don't smoke and I wouldn't use the fluid with nicotine, it just looks like something that'd be alright to have as a hobby. How much does a kit to build one generally cost? also is the fluid stuff expensive? I'm a student atm so I'm not especially rich
>>685641810
i vape because i like nicotine and the administration of drugs by smoking, and cigarettes will get me rekt
>>685642189
you are dumb nigga
>>685638325
>autism stick
>mouth fedora
pick one
how do I get high with vaping? Like can I put THC crystals into the juice and vape away? Someone give me some guidance. I do smoke blunts but sometimes i fancy vaping some weed out on the go
>>685637775
>when I'm about town
Fucking fedora, nerd beta. No one with an iota of coolness would describe hanging around in that way.
>>685642323
Get a kangertech vape kit, it has all you need to vape. Its well made and cheap, Juice can be really cheap if you shop around I spend on vaping in a month what I would on smoking for a week.
It isn't that bad. Just treat it the same you would a cigarette: don't vape indoors with other people where you usually wouldn't smoke a cigarette and don't vape too close to people even if you're outdoors (the vapor might not stink as much as cigarette smoke but it's still not pleasant to get a facefull of it), and don't brag about it and talk about your mods and shit to people who not only don't understand but don't give a fuck about vapes.
In other words, don't shove it down people's faces against their will. Other than that, who gives a fuck what a guy sitting on a park bench alone or inside his home is putting in his lungs.
>>685641914
such bs, i smoked less than 20 a day and was easily spending £150 a month. Vaping costs £50 a month at most, thats if you're using a TON of juice which would be retarded cause you could just double strength if you were using that much
>>685642502
Drop some bath salts onto your coils and pulse gently when you hit it
>>685642502
Get a dry herb vaporizer you queer
Vaping is straight cracker shit. You don't see nothing but awkward whites, and frat bros doing that shit.
>>685642323
There is a lot of choice available to you as far as juice consumption rate goes. If you are using a low wattage setup the consumption rate is quite slow and so expense is less. Also, if you're interested in zero nicotine juice, it is very easy to mix yourself and the ingrediants are readily available and cheap (vegetable glycerin, propylene glycol, and flavoring). Diluted liquid nicotine is the only relatively expensive component of the juice.
>>685643032
cause niggers are stupid
>>685642502
You need either a dry media vaporizer built for it or access to liquid THC (difficult if marijuana is not legel in your area).
>>685639183
Sick box, which sigelei is it?
>>685642648
>>685643063
aight, cheers /b/ros
I've had a look at some starter kits by kangertech and £30 seems alright
What's the difference between the sorta stick shaped ones and the ones that are box shaped with a mouthpiece protruding?
>>685637475
>>685640593
It's not even remotely close to burning a cigarette though. PG and VG have GRAS ratings. This is almost as bad as Mexico, who totally banned it. They allow cigarettes that everyone knows damages the smoker's lungs, but since they're not sure about vaping the demagogues have come out of the woodwork
At this rate, if the bicycle were invented today, it would be outlawed by demagogues.
>>685636985
helped me to quit smoking, I used 0 nicotine juice. Fucking disgusting to attack this legally and let them get abused sexually or physically to make them abusers in adulthood but GOD FORBID they VAPE!
Just goes to show it's about control and not about common welfare.
>>685643449
>What's the difference between the sorta stick shaped ones and the ones that are box shaped with a mouthpiece protruding?
Battery life, generally. The box shaped ones are usually designed for higher wattages and sub ohm tanks/drippers.
>>685643449
You can't change the volts on a tube (and it hits weaker as it dies), you might be able to change the volts on a box
You can change the watts of either by using different coils
>>685641582
I'm not saying your wrong, but I'd wait 10 - 20 more years before believing vaping is 100% safe. Cigarettes weren't proven wrong until some amount of years after it's release. These things take time to prove. Popcorn lung doesn't develop overnight.
>mfw people still use regulated mods
>>685640687
>a study that vaping might give you popcorn lung
>vaping might give
>might
What good is a study if the results are nil?
It's like all the prayer studies that continually come up with nil results, and sometimes negative results.
>>685643701
what difference does the voltage and wattage make?
>>685636985
Implying it won't lead to children smoking nicotine.
>>685642336
>>685642189
>I would prefer my kid smoking marijuana than this shit.
>>you are dumb nigga
Agreed, the level of stupidity for someone choosing pot than vape.
ag
>>685636985
Try smoking pot instead.
Vaping is for cucks
>>685644181
What's wrong with weed?
>>685636985
I just started using a vape to ween myself off cigs.
>>685644099
Higher wattage produces more and warmer vapor. The lower the resistance (ohm) of the coil the higher the wattage you can use.
>>685644193
Because smoking pot makes nicotine craving go away?
>>685644193
using it to avoid cigs is good.. not interesting in changing the 420 intake method of choice at this time.
>>685644099
Voltage is basically related to your battery, and with more volts per coil it will hit harder.
Wattage is overall total power per second
Basically volts is just wattage without the coil's resistance taken into account. Low resistance coils produce more watts per volts, and high resistance coils need a lot of volts to have high wattage
So low voltage, low resistance hits is high watts and high voltage, high resistance is also high watts.
High resistance, low volts is weak as fuck and low resistance, high volts is crazy powerful
