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PHILOSOPHY GENERAL THREADStoned philosophy grad student here.

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PHILOSOPHY GENERAL THREAD

Stoned philosophy grad student here. Ask me any philosophical question, talk among yourselves, etc.
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Just why?
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>>684740175
No such thing as just why.
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>>684740618
As an ideal, yes. Sometimes in actuality if the standard is a simple one.
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What do you call a B.S. in philosophy?
Redundant.
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Why would you pay to take a useless degree that you could take up as a hobby for free?
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>>684740881
Like what?
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>>684741172
Like shapes or something.
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Does Aquinas' first way imply that motion is continuous, rather than discrete?
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>>684739927
counter: stoned psych major here

ask away
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Answer some of these questions.
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>>684740894
Bachelor of Sciences and philosophy aren't the same thing.
>>684740956
You can't take it up as a hobby and get the same kind of education you would get at a University but you still have a point that it doesn't have an obvious pipeline into a job. The main reason for me was that I viewed the opportunity for education as just that, an opportunity for education, not an opportunity for a four year job training program.

>>684741172
Well, if it's an easily reached goal you can often reach it with perfection. For instance, say you set a goal to write five pages every day. So long as you do actually write those five pages every day, you'll have been perfectly meeting your goal. So, goals are an instance of something that can make perfection manifest.

>>684741405
I'm not a medieval person but I can look quick and get back to you.
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>>684739927
Not op. But double major here. One was in philosophy based logic and ethics.
Currently doing consulting for abu dhabi based entrepreneur making 125k a year. Goes to show how you use your brain to be successful. Oh just turned 26 too
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>>684741691
no
yes
because
yes
absolutely
only insofar as things are real and even then, eh only kind of
no
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>>684739927
Why are you a faggot
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>>684741405
motion is continuous discrete changes
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i took a couple philo classes expecting to have a great time, what i found was not at all what i could ever imagine would be a meaningful profession or use of my time
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>>684739927
what is your opinion of Kant's synthetic apriori concepts?
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>>684741916
>I'm not a medieval person but I can look quick and get back to you.

Meh nevermind then, your opinion won't be any help.

Academic philosophy is a ghetto. If you're being honest, you know you're only doing it because of the possibility of an easy job.
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>>684739927
I took a philosophy class once, so I am an expert. Here is the deal /b/ros:

Oh wait, it doesn't matter, nothing matters.
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>>684739927
act utilitarianism or rule utilitarianism?
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>>684739927
Are you specializing in a particular field? Epistemology, logic, metaphysics, ethics, etc.
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>>684742461
>thinking that's a bad thing
moron
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>>684739927
Why did God create evil?
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>>684742835
god is capable of evil.
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>>684741691
>rationality/freedom
both do
>consciousness
Not sure but lean toward yes
>ought/is
difference in logic of the concepts
>subjective reality
Maybe in some sense
>medium
idk
>numbers real?
Yes, in some sense.
>ethics/intention
no
>>684742229
It's not for everyone.
>>684742235
Not super smart on the topic but I've never actually understood why someone would think there are such things.
>>684742712
rule
>>684742809
Ethics including history, meta, normative, some applied.
>>684742835
God doesn't exist.
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>>684742835
if god exists: to test our faith, think Job

if he doesn't: he didn't
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>>684741934
I dropped out in 9th grade, make 250k/yr, I'm 27... Agreed about using your brain, but not just that, some people fail to realize it takes work, hard work unless you get lucky with the silver spoon.. Even then it's hard work to make it. Education is proof of dedication, usually average joes fail to grasp this concept.. The ones that say "this degree is shit" or "why waste your time". OP said it best a few posts back, education isn't necessarily about training for a job, it's about education. Average or below average dedication affords average results.
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>>684742818
What?
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>>684743061
>God doesn't exist.
How are you able to state that with certainty?
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>>684742712
Rule utilitarianism, but you really should read more interesting stuff.
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>>684743279
I don't state it with certainty.
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>>684741934
>Successful
>Browses /b/
Pick one
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>>684743151
okay good little tax payer. life isn't about money when you aren't a slave.
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Why did you major in philosophy?
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>>684741691
This pic hurt my eyes
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Do you believe we truly have free will? Or do you believe our consciousness is a construct of our brains which operate according to natural laws, and we are really nothing more than a series of chemical and physical reactions and that we are just the universe understanding itself?
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>>684739927
You fags literally just question everything, kys and grow a pair
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>>684743547
What else can OP do as a stoner? Sitting around taking about imaginary shit is all a stoner can do with his life.
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>>684743291
like what?
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>>684743279
I think the failure on both sides is grasping how one might define God, in which case, a person might say God doesn't exist, simply because they fail to grasp that God could be more than their definition. On the other side, one might say God exists and be wrong due to their own misconception about it. Either way, it has been proven the mind is predisposed to "needing" a form of higher power... Even if one chooses to define their beliefs haphazardly. My "God" is simply the totality of all, the unknown bond of the universe, in a sense my god is you and me, and what makes us and the things around us... I would never consider God a form or being, "more God" is not a singular thing, IT is all things, all at once.
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>>684739927
Op, If you hit yourself so hard you cry, are you week or are you strong?
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>>684743767
Kek
>Not butthurt at all
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>>684744109
Yup. He's stoned.
Accurate but stoned.
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>>684739927
>>684739927
yo nigger.
do you think the emergence of VR will change anything?
if so what, and how?

personally, i think its gonna be something big. its gonna change the world.
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If jack helped you off the horse would you help jack off the horse in return?
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weed is gay and for pussies

deb8 me
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>>684742835
>blaming god for what humans do
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>>684739927
What strategy do you follow when it comes to doing your assigned writing papers?
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>>684739927
There is no god, no self, and no soul.
Buddha explained this over a thousand years ago and here we still believing in lies.

All things are a part of causality and all things are impermanent, impersonal, and the origin of suffering.
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>>684739927
do we need philosophy to be happy?
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>>684743498
Not all who have money fall in to the category of those who don't. Butt hurt much? It's obvious you are single minded, not necessarily pathetic, but obviously think you are better than someone who just mentioned success is earned, and idiots interpret financial success as lack of worldliness... E.G. You don't have to be poor to be "enlightened".

Lurk more
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>>684744458
God has a plan. There is no freewill. Your life is already predetermined. You will burn in hell FOREVER.
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>>684739927
>>684741916
>>684741934
>>684743151
I agree with the aforementioned anons: school/work/money/life/happiness are not dependent on another.
That said: OP, how do you pay tuition and what will you do to put food in the cupboard and weed in the bowl?
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How come different strands of pot make me feel a different high? like how some make me more focus, while others make me want to fuck your mom?
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>>684744670
I would argue it's easier to be happy ignoring philosophy and generally deep thought for that matter. Ignorance is bliss.
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What was the most challenging material to work with during your undergrad OP?

I'm a philosophy undergrad right now and Philosophy of Kant is kicking me in the nuts. That man can't write for dick.
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>>684744891
the happiness of a pig is worse then the pain of a genius.
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>>684744674
Keep chasing those dollars like you were taught to do. Be a good little boy and run along now.
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>>684745024
To the pig or to the genius? You're trying really hard to sound profound.
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>>684744974

also phil grad, i enjoyed Kant the most

His work is complex as fuck but it makes a lot of sense once u get ur head around the framework
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>>684745024
Is that like a misquote of jsm? Or is it something people actually say? or bofe?
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>>684744715
life can be predetermined and we can still have free will.
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>>684745304
i was to lazy to actualy get the book from my bookshelf and find the quote but yes that was JSM.
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>>684745056
butt hurt 4life?
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>>684745364
Oh wassup Dr. Dennett
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>>684745364
science has already prove freewill isn't real. God's plan can't be changed.
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>>684743498
>>684745056
How do you live in this modern world, anon? You have some device to troll /b/, Internet connection, so you must use money. Or do you steal these things and live off the land? Nobody said money was the be all end all of life, they just said they make a decent living (measured in income).
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>>684745575
>science has already prove freewill isn't real.
sauce
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>>684745209
I really like Kant from what I learn in class. Reading the CPR is really the slog for me though. Any tips?
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>>684744370
yes, and then i would jerk the horses dick
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>>684745024
Good enough on the quote, but sometimes it only goes so far for temporary relief. Being a little too conscience makes for some rough times, does the pig not want for simple things, while the genius craves the unattainable?
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>>684745713
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/sapient-nature/201205/free-will-is-illusion-so-what
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>>684745816
KEK
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>>684745713
http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/mind-guest-blog/what-neuroscience-says-about-free-will/
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>>684739927
Are some values more valuable than others?
How can one achieve ultimate freedom?
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>>684745896
become the ubermensch?
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>>684744109
Jesus fuck, this works man, this works. I felt that way for a long time, why can no one accept the simple understanding that there is more dynamic than just throwing the word God around.
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>>684746165
Does value exist?
An hero.
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what did he mean?
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>>684746148
>>684745920
are they using the argument that the chemical reactions leading to a thought or decision begin before you think of them?
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>>684739927

Do stoned people believe in god?
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>>684739927
Why did god rape a 12 year old girl to give us jesus when he could have made his son out of dirt like he did the rest of mankind?
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>>684746592
when i was a gram of dabs in i believed in my mattress
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>>684746310
values does exist
are you really free when you can not experience free
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>>684746370
He meant that the Internet is just like the human population, destined for failure due to overcrowding and lack of clear and concise moderation/discipline.
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>>684745896
in truth i usually go with the Buddha when i have issues like this.
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>>684746703
Holy shit
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>>684746798
my friend who 'knew me a lot' was "relaxing" before my class
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>>684746592
yes.
didnt believe in god til i got really high on acid.
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Life is a garden

(Farmer)
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>>684746968

What about DMT?
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>>684746968
i watched family guy for 17 hours on 4 tabs and i have to say it took me 3 hours to pack a bowl
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Do transgenders suffer from a psychological disorder, or are their arguments vaild?
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>>684747071
idk what the rest of you think but dmt and ket are nothing in the eyes of acid
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>>684746783
Thanks, Schopenhauer
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>>684739927

OP, I know you're a faggot. But you really should know that a temporal being cannot be a permanent atemporal self, such as we human being conceive ourselves.

There is a fundamental disconnect at the heart of the human condition and most people have far too much dust in their eyes to see it.

We suffer all manner of unpleasant emotions as a result of our tenacity to see an impermanent set of conscious phenomena as an everlasting person, and it makes us very ill to whenever we are brought up against the weight of such a contradiction.

Philosophy when it has addressed this question at all, has only succeeded in identifying the problem. The big names of existentialism such as Husserl. Heidegger, Satre, Kierkegaard and Nietzche saw the human condition more or less as it is, but knew of no solution to the problems it posed.

Only the Buddha solved this puzzle, and today his teachings are widely misinterpreted. Only a few practice correctly, but they have been successful at ending the the dependence of suffering upon craving. Of coming to see the constituent elements of experience as not indicative of a self. They did so by merging the existentialist's phenomenological method of thought, with the teachings found in the Buddha's suttas, and uncovering his original teachings. You have everything you need now, to pursue the most rewarding intellectual and philosophical path possible. The door is open for you.
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>>684746767
Nice try Patriots, but I'm not falling for your shit
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>>684741691
>are numbers real

If they weren't you wouldn't be talking about them.
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>>684747207
the most recent DSM says they dont have a disorder.
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>>684742040
actually i was looking for porn
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>>684746783
All we are is a result of what we have thought.

My favorite, to the point, should be enough for anyone to dwell on with enough presence of mind.
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>>684747328
Not sure if you're being lazy or actually naive.
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you didn't hear it from me, but 24 dph pills will bring you on a far ride to god, death, and yourself
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>>684747328
I can talk about unicorns. but they're not real.
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>>684747514
What about facticity?
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>>684747681
They could be.
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>>684747681
The fuck? What planet are you from?!?! I got a baby unicorn in my backyard.
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>>684747304
I almost had a more complete response, but I kept thinking, my thoughts on this are compared to when my dog tries to fetch and brings back a different stick:

Good job, I mean, you kinda failed... But good job boy, you think you did well!
*pat on head
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>>684743566
>and America is the uncle
Kek
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>>684739927
Have you watched crash course philosophy?
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Why ask why?
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>>684739927
Would you suck your dad's dick if it meant you had to fuck him in the ass to save your mom's life?
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>>684747522
Try me.

>>684747681
>>684747805
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>>684748021
to know.
to determine fact from fiction.
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>>684747071
have never tried dmt,
definitely on the bucket list though. but from the research ive done on it, its not a spiritual experience. its more of a mind melting experience. and the experience fades away instantly like waking up in the middle of a dream.

>>684747128
i tried watching alice in wonderland while tripping once. was really scary, didnt finish it.
that movie is a huge fucking metaphor for society.
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i filled the rabbit hole
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>>684743566
>a very violent uncle
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>>684747292
thank you for giving me more materiel to read. somehow i hadnt come across Schopenhauer outside of the hedgehogs dilemma.
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>>684748170
why?
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>>684748185
alice scared me on just pot and codeine
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>>684748242
to denounce the evils of truth and love
to extend our reach to the stars above.
Jesse.
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>>684747731
Whoa, whoa, I'm not sure this is the time or place for that discussion. I'm all about it but damn, buy me coffee first.
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really from abuser to abuser though i was just kidding dont use Benadryl please

its bad
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>>684743389
You're making an assertion.

What you mean to say is, God may not exist.

He does btw
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>>684740354
>>684740354
>>684740354
As in why would you waste your time and money in such a retarded way?
As in why would you set yourself up to be jobless or barely employed and constantly in debt?
As in why would you go out of your way to back yourself into a corner only to be better educated about the moral dilemma that lay before you as you hold the gun in your mouth?
As in why would you use a picture that would equate what you hope to become with a poorly educated, poorly groomed, innebriate?
Just why?!
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>>684748448
you sure have to prove both the existence of god and that god is a he.
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>>684748448
Are you certain?
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>>684739927
Ever seen this?
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>>684748448
you clearly didn't sit in the mountains and breathe enough
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Response to multiple drug related posts, and in general about drug use:

Seriously, this faggotry is annoying, you bring up bullshit responses with simple phrases like "bruh, I tried dmt and it expanded me" or whatever bullsgit faggotry you vomit. Fuck it, that it, just fuck it you pieces of shit.
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>>684748327
Coffee? Only water or milk.
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>>684748544
You must come to that on your own.

>>684748559
Yes.
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>>684746592
Yes but not the american one. Just a higher being who can't comprehend and it's a 'god' to us. Like we could be considerd gods by let's say ants.
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>>684748624
thanks that guy who got a 103 in maths
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>>684748185
You're ill informed. You're just talking about vaping it which is literally the shittiest way of doing it. Hell, even changa is better for christ sake.
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>>684748624
Hey, my cousin tried DMT recently and lectured me about Enlightenment, One True Conscience, and how easy life is now that he knows the Truth.
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>>684748657
Water or coffee, people still drink that puss? Thumbs down
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>>684741916
Education? You fucking idiot.
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>>684748683
i find your argument insufficient. try again.
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something something ad hominem something something something something something strawman something something no true scotsman something something something.
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>>684748855
he's an asshole lol dmt is boring at best and makes you have a minor coma at most
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Do you guys spend any time on /his/'s philosophy threads?
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>>684748820
dont know what changa is.
what is the best method of ingesting?

if you are talking about ayahuasca thats a whole other ballgame dude.
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>>684739927
Where do you get your weed from?
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>>684748855
Please tell me more about how your response proved the uselessness of involving drug use in any discussion.

"Dude, my cousin changed his life"
-cool story
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>>684748974
I think he just made a leap to faith. He's had a tough life.
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i saw a video about a guy who created an algorithm used on a mario game to make it retry every single time and adapt enough to make it to the goal

well the universe has provided evidence that there have been 7 big bangs, righth?

so what if we're just a very complex algortihm that resets every time the universe destroys itself and eventually a duplicate of ourselves will eventually reach utopia

idk man i just smoked a huge ass ball of resin and it's fucking wonderful
just wonderful
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>>684749131
last time i did dmt i played doom for 8 hours, beat the first game, and woke up in my own piss because i drank too
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>>684749016
Take enough to kill yourself, then you will truly be enlightened, fuck garbage.
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>>684739927
Given the genuine article and its indistinguishable fake, which is more valuable?
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>>684749099
Oh sorry I was saying the opposite. He's straight nuttered. Thanks for the reply.
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>>684749225
7 big bangs? sauce!?
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so who actually did acid here... because 6 tabs kept be up for 26 hours and i swear everything was pink and loved me
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>>684749244
Haha so no transcendence?
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OP, fellow stoned philosophy grad student. Where do ya go?
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>>684739927
WHERE DID KANT GO RIGHT?
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>>684749506
no but man that doom music made my heart race
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>>684739927
Will you ever make more than $50k/year?
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Why did you waste an opportunity for a college education that you can use to make money
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>>684749297
>Take enough to kill yourself
i try not to go overboard on my drugs.
i find it really irresponsible to "Get as fuck up as possible" i think its very immature and if you have the mindset then i dont think u should be doing drugs. but who i am to tell you what to do man.
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>>684748960
Insufficient based on your current knowledge and understanding of everything that has happened in the world and how those things operate.

Again, you will come to that on your own, or you won't.
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>>684749244
Playing video games.

I stopped there, video games make me vomit, I get dizzy and vomit. I didn't grow up playing, i can't imagine doing any drug and playing them.
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>>684749533
i dropped out of hell
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>>684749495
done it twice.

first time i thought i was dying

second time i thought the earth was dying

cried my eyes out both times at how beautiful life is.
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>>684749716
can you provide evidence for your assertion?
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>>684749696
The point was if you're going to do them, might as well kill yourself for being a fucking loser. So again.. Take enough to kill yourself, you fucking piece of garbage.
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>>684749717
honestly when i drink i usually stop playing games and listen to music after like 2 hours
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>>684747805
Is anything fictionally conceived from imagination enough to warrant possibility to exist in reality?
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>>684741691
1) Neither. Meaning, if it were real, would be derived from some immaterial thing, like god or a free standing value the creates a moral imperative. All that exists is material. there fore no immaterial things exist. therefore there is no foundation of meaning
2) this depends on what is meant by machine and what is meant by consciousness. If we take a machine to be something made buy people that is not a baby, and consciousness is something which the human experience is an example of but not the entirety of, that is to say it is possible for there to be conscious things which are not human, then it is possible for a very complicated machine to have a material state sufficiently similar to those experienced by mankind to be considered conciouse. that is to say that much in the same way that my brain is not the perfect physically mirror to your brain we are both considered conscious so too could a machine brain be similar but not exact.
3) is describes a set of circumstances which are purely material. for example there are four dollars in my wallet and none in yours. ought describes a set of circumstances which are material but also are in sync with a further set of circumstance which have a value who's foundation is immaterial. an example of this is sharing is GOOD so we should both have two dollars in our wallet. when we integrate what GOOD is we can try and distance ourselves from the inherent immaterial nature of the value in question but we inevitably arrive at its immaterialness. for example you may say GOOD is brain states which induce pleasure, but why is pleasure important, well because it is this abstract thing which is GOOD and it is valuable. some would say that this is proof positive of immaterial valuable things, I would say that it is evidence of an arbitrary preference, which we have because they tend to be advantageous evolutionary speaking, the same sort of this as plants growing towards sunlight not valueable just part of the man machine
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>>684749365
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclic_model
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Also drugged out i dont know what board this is. Shout out to pink floyd and dxm
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>>684749910
wait, i dont understand what you are trying to say here.
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>>684750052
Pink Floyd

Good god pink Floyd is garbage
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>>684749954
I guess you never tried to Kamehameha before.
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>>684749801
i watched the sun rise and i swear on my life man the sun was green, the petles of the treas were happy, and my roommates wanted to be awake

we drove and they made me smoke a bowl at this "castle" facade we always smoked at
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>>684750074
Duh, vaginas are green bananas, like pancake batter.

Nailed it
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>>684748624
>>684748624
It doesn't expand you. It grants the opportunity to have biologically forced moments of deep introspection. Like when you see a piece of artwork that provokes an emotional response or allows you to see the world in a different way.
You may or may not know this, but the quality of your experience in life is determined by your ability to see all the best outcomes withing the range of reasonable limits and expectations. Anything that allows you to see more outcomes or possibilities, usually by accessing different parts of your brain, could be used as a tool to grow intellectually or heal psychologically.
Expand no, look within and see the world differently, yes.
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>>684750130
>>>684750052 (You)
why you say this to me
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>>684750130
Dream Theater is much better.
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>>684750425
what is dream theater i realize im a fag
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if you take acid just listen to what you like retards
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>>684750228
Do you honestly believe that suffices as an answer to my question?
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>>684750314
This is opinion, and poorly executed.

Good try though, I mean, skimming it was as informational as taking a second look and reading the mediocre response.

I've heard plenty of drug fags try to explain this faggotry, it's all the same.

Nice try though, might as well quit while you're a faggot.
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>>684750586
prog rock that melts your fucking soul

check em out dude you wont regret it
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>>684749016
The brew is the only way to do it in my opinion. Changa is a smokable blend with an maoi in it.
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>>684749995
>>684741691
4) no there is only one reality and it includes the subjective states of organisms complicated enough to have them
5) I'm not even passingly familiar with this so I won't comment on it other than to say at first blush I doubt it
6) depends on what you mean by numbers and real but if I guess correctly than no
7) what is meant by sensibly, if it is meant in the colloquial sense than of course if it is a term of art than I would say sensibility doesn't enter the frame at any point so no
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>>684750586
my personal favorite band, check them out or don't
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>>684739927
how you can find your dream?
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>>684750707
aight ill hit it up im tripping balls right about now so floyd was my go to sorry
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>>684750281
every time i do it i have a very spiritual experience. i find it so strange cuz i used to be one of those god awful "debate me" faggots demanding evidence for every little thing.
i never thought id believe in god or anything much less have it happen from one day to the next.

acid is some crazy shit.
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usually i play kpop when me and my few friends do some cid btw

the bouncy girls take the negative away
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>>684750314
>you may or may not know this

You're having a hard time with fact vs opinion here. I guess umm.. Good try old chap?
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>>684750833
yah how fucking DARE you
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>>684750766
the brew is probably the most potent psychedelic experience a human can experience.
i dont think such experiences are for everyone and can severely fuck people up dude.

sorry but ill have to disagree with your opinion bro.
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>>684750804
i want to check them out what is the recomended song?
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>>684750833
Man, floyd is like, alright at best for weed. My music for acid or other psychedelics is a band called Rishloo.
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>>684750865
i wont debate you lol
i read every word you said, like i promised i would

now im here to say ill keep on doing drugs like a dumbass and i believe you
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>>684751105
i listened to floyd on shrooms opened my life up
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>>684751145
i belive u replied to wrong post dude. cuz that makes no sense to me.
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>>684751093
I like These Walls, or The Dance of Eternity
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Whats a good philosophical read?
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>>684751300
chiill
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>>684739927
how the fuck do you grad school philosophy? are we paying philosophers now? sign me the fuck up, I think about shit all day.
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Thread was almost good, but then:

-pink Floyd mentioned
(Faggot, whinny band for faggots)
-drugs mentioned other than weed
(Faggos claiming its life changing)
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pink floyd is like the.... katy perry of my generation?

we all heard it

get over it, he was on drugs too my man
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>>684749834
You existing.
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>>684751341
life and death of socrates
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>>684751218
Hahahahaha

Fucking loser
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>>684751271
shit man there's so many numbers...

the letters are all over the room and pink my man
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>>684751383
>think about shit all day
this is not philosophy dude.
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>>684751565
lol its all good dude. no worries. nothing but love for you bro.
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>>684751549
im gay i know
i didnt relize this was /mu alright fuvk
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>>684751565
Fucking waste of life, you are seriously pathetic, if sober and lying: pathetic... If fucked up: pathetic.

It's time you realize how fucking stupid you are.
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>>684751300
im listening to these walls right now holy fuck
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>>684750681
You might as well kill yourself if you ever get ptsd or any form of depression.
There are plenty of double blind studies that have been done about these things. I'll cite UDV vs The federal government. It was when the UDV won the right to use ayahuasca in their sacramental ceremonies because it was proven to be physically harmless as well as psychologically non damaging. Statistically speaking the people in the church were shown to be healthier mentally and physically as compared to the rest of the country.
Then there are the studies that have been done on soldiers with ptsd, and the ibogaine trails done on people with addictions. I could go on but you probably wouldn't understand you pleb.
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>>684751439
elaborate anon.
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>>684751778
are you okay?
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>>684739927
Where? Berkeley philo BA.
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>>684751778
bitter human being detected.
its okay dude things will get better for you.
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>>684751576
thinking about shit all day might not be philosophy, but philosophy is thinking about shit all day
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>>684751063
You are wrong. UDV and uñaio de vegetal (spelling is fucked here) have people as young as 12 doing it but show less physical or mental illness that the statistical average.
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>>684751778
you want replies right? here is one
why do you need them though?
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philosophical concepts are torn down when you realize that nothing matters and you will all die
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>>684751804
Again,
Pat on the head

You seriously are just regurgitating information without any actually thought to purpose.

But.. Here's one for you, the typical "I read this" or blah blah blah..

I was "diagnosed" with depression, I didn't read bullshit articles, I took up hiking and jogging, that was 10 years ago... Instead of useless and half baked bullshit, maybe actually avoid trying to prove a point when there is none.
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>>684741691
purpose gives life meaning even if it has no value to society
yes i believe conciousness can be replicated(unless you believe in the soul)organic machines like us could be built with what we call hardware were just not there yet
what ought to be is only is if it is brought to fruition
i think they do nothing is entirely objective(especially if instinct is what drives them)
don't think so
numbers are like musical notes they are just a fabricated method of perceiving reality(there are no real notes they are just static measurements of an entirely dynamic reality
no every ethical idea has some intention they go hand in hand, intention creates ethics the one truth behind ethics is fairness but even that is to some extent an illusion but a good illusion that people tend to ignore when it doesn't suit them
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>>684751778
>pathetic
>/b/
Welcome to your new home.
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>>684752373
such a small group does not represent the global population man. u cant say im wrong.
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i still wonder about how /b/ gets the best but also the worst.....
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>>684748533
OP answer my questions
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>>684752747
becasue /b/ is full of nigs
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>>684752659
you're the problem btw, you always have been
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>>684751804
>wouldn't understand you pleb

Uhh, nice try I think?

You started off flaccid and ended up.. flaccid
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>>684752608
>684752608
*think they do, nothing is entirely.....
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>>684751868
There are an uncountable number of things, which were necessary for you to be able to exist.

If one of the those were to not have happened, you would not be here.
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usually we just tell that guy he's new...
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>>684753107
And yet there's some kind of 'tonin imbalance in my brain that lets me never feel joy, pleasure or happiness. The human race is a cancer to reality.
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>>684752221
Things are great, mostly because I avoid faggots like you, and your faggot ways
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>>684739927
Have philosophers considered that the answers to the big questions are intricately tied?

Also, have you ever had any sort of, for lack of a better term, religious experience or awakening in your philosophizing? Would you say that the philosophies of Buddhism and Taoism are immature? If so, what would be considered the most developed or complex?
Ever run into the study of complex systems in your philosophy education?

It's funny how basic level wisdom isn't taught in philosophy education when many in it don't even have that. Any ideas on how to instill basic wisdom in others?
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>>684751883
Not when people like you exist
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>>684739927
OP, do you believe in god?
If so how would you personally define your view of it?
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>>684753293
>mostly because I avoid faggots like you
>came to the thread specifically to confront faggots like me

lol dude you are delusional.
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>>684752910
Here, we call it cancer. I know you enjoy it here, even with people like me. Just remember you're here forever.

by
the
way
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>>684753328
you probably have no idea who you are talking too
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>>684753321
>basic level wisdom

When I got there I just kinda, decided you are trying to hard.

Also, basic level wizardry would've been funnier.
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all these faggot and no to suck dick to my brodies i mean cmon you little weird fuck might as well go fuck eachatha
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>>684752718
Read the studies. It was a fairly mixed group for what its worth. The randomness of any sampling is always up for debate, but it was enough to stand up in a case in front the supreme court. They all underwent a battery of tests from panels of specialists appointed by the court. That being said they were some of the best doctors in the country and they were *trying* to find something wrong. What they found was to the contrary, and the tests and studies that have been done in recent times/being done today just supports this.
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>>684753438
Came to this thread for other purposes, faggots like you wandered in.
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>>684753606
bruh just go to trash for a bit and get back to me
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>>684753553
Totally do!

Dad, go to bed
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do you actually believe in "a priori" knowledge?

i think the whole concept is bullshit

real knowledge is either reflexive, or complex a priori rationalization

1 + 1 = 2 not because of some a priori knowledge, but because that's what we call it when you have something next to something that's the same - we call that "two," and it's reflexive knowledge

everything else is merely an observation or a reflexive description. even calculus is a way of reflexively describing the area under a curve (even advanced calculus is still another way of doing that, in principle, though you wouldn't actually think of it that way)
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>>684753691
either way you are still doing a horrible job at "Avoiding" me seeing as how you keep replying.
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>>684753835
Naw, try again
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>>684753782
your daddy wanted to own a cool pc in the 80's but failed

sell your 3.1x for razor money
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>>684753683
the problem is even if 1person out of 7billion person sample has a negative outcome, then my statement of it not being for everyone is true.
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>>684753268
God is the only medicine for that.

We don't have to be.
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How the fuck do you niggers turn into philosophers when stoned. I sit in the living room laughing at the fact that I Googled gnome instead of numb.
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>>684753035
Whether you're trolling or serious you should kill yourself. Willful ignorance or random belligerence, it doesn't matter. You are the niggest of nogs my pigmentally challenged chimpman servant. I hope you haven't run out of crack yet because I'd love if you stuck around to supply a response worth of your royal niggness.
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hello sir dudely
Im a dude comin from a small super old school hippie community up in the Pacific Northwest and ive got two questions fer ya.

1. What is your opinion on Kafka? (Hope ya read 'The Metamorphosis' whatta fuckin trip)

2. Whats your opinion on how humans tend to give -less amount of credit than due- to the absolute fascinating wonders of nature?
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>>684748448
The assertion was made with the same certainty that one might say, "There aren't elephants living inside the sun." Sure, he hasn't been inside the sun and looked for elephants, but given his existing knowledge, it makes sense to assume that they can't be there.
But then you get people who believe the elephants are there because someone a couple of thousand years ago wrote about it and their parents raised them without the ability to objectively analyze their own beliefs, and these people when faced with logical interrogation say, "well, you can't prove that they don't live in the sun, therefore they live in the sun," trying to reconcile a diminishing spiritual delusion with a hypothetical syllogism and instead just affirming the consequent.
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>>684753579
If this is the grad student I sincerely don't mean anything other than what my questions are. I'm merely trying to get the opinion of someone who I trust to be more educated in these matters than I. By basic level wisdom I meant things like "be happy with yourself" or "people have different ways." Could I have your opinion on the other questions?
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>>684742461
But where does Harry's pain come from?
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>>684754212
>How the fuck do you niggers turn into philosophers when stoned
they're way more than that
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>>684753941
There you go again, popping up like the housekeepers that clean the piss off the toilet, bothering me while I'm on vacation. Do you see the sign bitch? Jesus, here's $5, give me a towel to wipe my ass with and gtfo. Always the poor faggots that try to be special, fucking man in the yellow hat. If I had a nickel for every quarter I had, I would probably go to school to be able to do that math quickly. Then again, I'd have to count the quarters first to be sure. If any other fucking car wash scratches my hood, it'll be your ass.
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>>684754220
Still flaccid
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so... this is my leave?
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>>684754409
lol. okay dude 7/10 for making me reply several times. but im done now.
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Guys Suicide is a serious issue
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>>684754264
This thread derailed, and aside from you coming in late or responding late, it really was a failure to provoke a response. Education aside, real world rules apply, you really did try too hard, I mean, I can't describe it differently. No response warranted any further.

Try again maybe? I don't know
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>>684754936
you tried atleast lol

and really i mean lol
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I have a huge cock and i smoke weed i love sucking juciy cock while i smoke weed through my brodies hard penis no homo tho you fucking kuks
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thread officially kill
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>>684754009
>>684753835

if OP doesn't address this fundamental issue, then he's either a fraud or a really shitty fucking philosophyfag
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>>684754044
Anyone with schizophrenia or a family history of it would obviously be out as would certain people with other select psychological disorders. Some things are implied here. In this sense "everyone" only includes those who are healthy and otherwise show no evidence of an obviously bad outcome waiting to happen.
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>>684755136
>>684755159
who are these magic guys
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Aye man fuck everybody that say weed is bad for you weed aint bad for fucknigga come say that shit to my face little pussy come fuck with me little guy
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>>684739927

analytic or continental? what's your thesis about?
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>>684755234
well i dont think you can just redefine the word "Everyone" to fit your argument dude.

but whatever man. we both know what each other means now.
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>>684755391
you have autsim btw
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>>684739927
How do you feel about Pascal's Wager OP? Also, In a future where self driving cars are a thing, should a car swerve out of the way of a child in the street, saving the child but killing the owner, or just kill the child?
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>>684755177
The subject you brought up is elementary and boring, like a freshman would bring up. Good god man, get a fucking good subject going, be original... Innovative!

Also this thread is done you fucking late arriving asshole
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>>684755177
>Fundamental

More like

Elementary
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>>684755648
Kill the child fuck him. Little Jimmy shouldn't have been on the street
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>>684754936
Yeah I'm not good at real world and I still don't fully understand what you mean haha. Thanks anyways.
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lol have a good night
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>>684739927

ethics? filthy casual. you're not in the US, are you?
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What the fuck is this website even for?
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>>684755484
your a complete neckbeard ima rich ass nigga out chea in brooklyn b fuck me little nigga i smoke gas everyday fucknigga broke boy aint shit but my niggas bitch homie fuck you nigga
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>>684755801
Meaning, don't be a stiff, be more original, less like a 9th grade textbook chapter.
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>>684755915
porn i think

>>684755942
chill
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>>684754233
Great false equivalency. 10/10
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>>684739927
When did you decide to waste your money on a shit degree?
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>>684755471
Sunlight is harmless and there fore for everyone. Except albinos and people who immune system react negatively to it.
> implying anything in the history of everything ever is for everyone
Not one thing imaginable is for everyone. Nothing is ever truly innocuous by default because this wide wonderful world is full of variables. Your logic is flawed.
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