Is this a cringe thread? ?
Gender fluid/gender queer is probably not real. People just need a new label to attach to themselves so they can claim to be oppressed. Transgender (which I actually do think is real) has become too mainstream for these kinds of people.
because you are either a man or a woman (or in rare cases a hermaphrodite)
and if you for what ever reason want to be the another gender you are fucked in the head
if you decide to become a tranny at least be a tranny without shoving it in everyones faces
its not the gender fluidity itself i have a problem with.
its the people who decide all theyre going to be in life is a genderfluid person.
in other words i wouldnt mind working with a genderfluid person, but i would mind it if thats all they ever talked about.
I don't have a problem with them. i just don't care about them. Opinions, genders, whatever, they are like genitals. They are godd and all, and it's good if you are proud of it. But when you start rubbing it on the face of everyone you meet, then you and I whe have a problem.
But then again, I'm just an autist.
Well i can speak on behalf of my /b/ros but i can explain why i dislike it.
So, gender equality movement starts getting popular, everyone and their mother is suddenly bi, or "gay" as an excuse to be sluts and fuckbois.
Now, this generfluid shit is doing the same thing, its a goos cause i guess, its the people surrounding it that are cancer. People who will whore themselves out to ideals they dont believe in for the vein persuit of feeling special.
I guess what im trying to say is:
"Go back to tublr."
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It's for failures who have nothing to define themselves by other than some stupid made up shit. Check any internationally recognised feminist writer and none of them really give a fuck about all this gender fluid shit, they're too busy actually doing work.
Take a look to history : a lot of white manly man doing important things, I admire them
Take a look to feminist, genderfluids, and that kind of garbage: spend his time crying like babies because a man dressed like a woman can't use the women bathroom
Also sorry for my English
I have a problem with people saying that their mental illness is normal and forcing society to change for a .ooo1% minority who will most likely suicide anyways. I hate people who believe in shit that isn't fucking real, worse that bible bangers.
You die and if you accomplished shit you'll be remembered, if not you disappear into history as if you never existed, unless of course your great great great grandchildren do something then they might find you on ancestry and wonder how they were related to such a faggot.
I really have no problem with it and I honestly don't give a fuck at all about your thoughts or opinions or what you think about gender or which gender you identify as or lack thereof. I just wish you folks would shut the fuck up about it and get a god damn job or something.
I don't think most people are saying it's "normal" so much as they're saying it should be openly discussed and tolerated. Gender dysphoria is considered an illness in the DSM, but the recommended treatment is usually for the patient to transition to the gender they identify as.
That's funny, I remember watching some Michael Moore documentary where he goes to Canada and is all weirded out that everyone's door is always unlocked.
I think it was Bowling for Columbine.
The problem is not that someone wants to be different, it's that they claim an identity in only the most superficial of ways. A man wants to be a woman, they IDENTIFY completely as a woman, "this is who I am", but the only thing they have to show for it is growing some fake tits, growing out their hair, putting on high heels and makeup. They will never never know the internal and mental experience of a female. Same goes for women into men. There's an inherit experience in growing up biologically male and female that for many makes their identity. To just claim it because you feel like it by externally wearing the clothes, parts and hair of that gender is seen as insulting to many.
It's not self induced, any sort of mental illness is caused by a cocktail of early childhood experiences and genetic predispositions. Self induction implies that it's a simple choice in the same vein as, say, smoking cigarettes.
Be cause it's either mental illness as is all split personalities and detachment from the self, we lock up people who say they are Jesus, people who say they are the opposite sex is exact same thing.
It's just people looking to create something Interesting about themself by making up things and overhyping aspects everyone has., Be cause it's easier to say look I'm unique rather then do something actually worthy of praise.
well an example is the nazis, they didn't hate retards and cripples, it is just cheaper to kill them rather than help them, most genocides aren't about hate, they are about taking land and resources, belive it or not people are not irrational, they are just evil.
Exact same thing. They don't have powers they just think they're something theyre not. Their are people locked up for claiming to be Abe Lincoln, an alien etc.
It's a complete break from reality to look in the mirror and see a Jesus, a member of the opposite sex, an alien. It needs to be treated not encouraged.
and don't forget about pan-sexual. I have an asian friend who identifies as a wok.
Well, a fair sum of people were irrational and easily mislead into thinking that minority groups in Germany were at fault for many hardships the country was facing. Irrational people, though, usually don't get to be in charge of things, though, the one's using their irrationality for their own gains are pretty often, however.
yer but those people we rational voters who agreed with killing others for their own personal gain, it wasn't irrational at all, the nazis told them, hey these people are useless and we waste tax dollars on them, so why don't we kill them so you can get your tax dollars back and those people agreed with them, hence rational but evil.
Most people in Germany didn't know about the death camps until after the war. The party purposely mislead them because they knew there would be tremendous backlash.
Everyone knew there were ghettos and concentration camps, but displacing minority groups to make better opportunities for in-groups is a long tradition of most nations and received a lot better.
Furthermore, the basis by which they decided who would be put in these concentration camps was derived of xenophobic fear and, one could say, hate.
Because gender =/= personality.
Because forcing personality on a gender is fucking stupid.
Because a guy can look/act/behave/react/live as a girl and still be a guy (and vice versa)
Because there is no fucking point in forcing personality to be definitive of your genitals.
The "daddy" and "baby" referred to in this image are almost certainly incest role-players.
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Funny. I know a lot of guys with shaved heads who never listen to niggers.
Why are you taking such a simple word like "group" and giving it complex attributes? I meant it in the simplest form. as in apples go in the red group along with blood. and lemons go in the yellow group along with piss.
How is it confusing for a kid to see male/female and mark that down? If they're normal, it won't be a problem.
It will be confusing for people suffering from gender dysphoria if they're limited to two options, though.
The DSM says it does, and it's written by people who study this sort of stuff for a living.
There is a ton of blurry lines between every option so it will be very confusing for gender dysphoric kids. and normal kids will be tempted to choose another "cooler" or "unique" option.
gender is one of the fundamental components of almost every single living thing on the planet, it splits a species into it's two primary reproductive roles, and to better equip each member for said role gender also determines the type and quantity of certain hormones that affect how the individual interacts with said roles. fuck even plants have binary genders. all this tumblr bullshit is just conflating mental illness and hormone deficiencies with the perceived notion that gender isn't a core component in who we are as people.
the study of statistics such as births, deaths, income, or the incidence of disease, which illustrate the changing structure of human populations.
a summation of all the organisms of the same group or species, which live in a particular geographical area, and have the capability of interbreeding.
Seems like a group to me.
Why do you think those results would get shared with their classmates? If it is, that's stupid, this should be between the child and their counselor.
I dont know. sometimes i feel like a cross between a boy, a girl, a cat and a nitwit.
Agreed for the most part, but regardless human reasoning allows us as less primitive animals to define our interactions with no limitations on hormones or gender.
Not to say that gender isnt binary or solely reproductive, it is, but regardless nonbinary gender is not indicative of how a person is forced to act, which is what the tumblr bullshit is seemingly forcing down our throats
My older brother used to dress up in his friends moms clothes, perfectly normal childhood behaviour, or so you might think.
My Dad is a bear drinking, brick laying, deer hunting MAN of the truest sense. When he found out that my brother was dressing in womens clothes with his friend he stopped him from associating with that friend and told me brother he is a boy and he dresses like one.
Mt brothers friends was allowed to continue dressing in his moms clothes.
Fats forward 20 years and my brother is married with two kids, he is a mans man. His old friend is a flaming faggot that lives his life as a confused "woman".
human reasoning allows someone with schizophrenia to define his/her interactions with nonexistant people. just because the person can rationalise this internally doesn't mean that there are not measurable deficiancies with his/her brain that are responsible for the experiances.
just because these non-binary believiers can internally rationalise it, doesn't mean that it isn't caused by a deficiency of their physiology.
Is this supposed to prove something? Do you think your dad altered your brother's gender or sexual orienation?
Your older brother's friend probably went a lot further than crossdressing because he was queer or a tranny (or both for all I know), while your brother was just playing along with his friend
Both boys would have grown up to be the way they are, regardless
it used to be trolls from /b/ but then the real wierdos caught on and noticed "others" like them and it spiraled out of control, tumblr started as a joke but out grew it's creator and became a mostourous cess pit of hate and hugboxes.
Attention starved kids will try to get attention wherever they can, this isn't causing the problem for them, though it might be elucidating it. I'll concede that this might very well exacerbate problems, also, especially during formative years.
But, gender dysmorphia still exists and it effects people around that age. I think the best way to deal with it is to have open and verbose discussions with those children about these issues.
If kids are writing down those answers, they should have further discussions about it with trained professionals to clarify the point and to, if they really do have dysmorphia, find what treatment would be the best for them to pursue.
In short, barring the discussion from happening is not, in any way, a good solution. If you're trying to not confuse children, be open, patient and honest with them.
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So every kid claiming to be genderspecial in some way gets his, her or xer head picked apart by a quack? great, it's like you want the kids to be messed up
>If you're trying to not confuse children, be open, patient and honest with them.
Normally you're right but this subject is not appropriate for children and will cause a lot of misdiagnosis, we already have more than enough false cases of 'gender dysmorphia'
The people afflicted with this ailment don't make up a large segment of the population, and if a kid is just doing it to be different, a few hours with a trained psychiatrist (not a quack) would be enough to dispel that.
if they are trying to make themselves feel special by ascoating themselves with the fad fake gender subculture, then they are probably already messed up in other ways.
this gender buisness is a symptom of mental disorders, probably combinations of various ones, coupled with social isolation and lonliness.
> kid doesn't fit in at school
> kid gets online find support strucure on tumblr
> kid wants to be like his/her tumblr idols
> kid makes up weird fake gender to feel special and fit in
> kid spouts off about it online
> cycle continues
I know what a gender is, but it is naturally assigned and linked to your sexual organs.
my point is, why would you even need to question this and make up some shit called gender and not just accept your sex.
>the recommend treatment is to transition
Which is fucking retarded. It's like saying "embrace the voices in your head. Do what they say. Bend to their will". Not to mention that the suicide rate of post op trannies is 3x higher than the normal population. It's almost like this shit ain't working to cure their illness, but that can't be possible.
if anyone has ever done any mental health first aid training then one of the things that they drum into you is taht when dealing with people with delusions or hallucinations it is important to never ratify the patients belief in the delusion by acknowledging it as real. ie if a schizophrenia sufferer is freaking out in a shopping mall hallucinating about aliens on his roof that are going to shoot him, and you want to calm him down and get him to go inside then it might be tempring to engage with the hallucanation to get what you want, ie 'ok anon, lets go inside so that the aliens cant see you' ect, but this will remove the fragment of doubt in the sufferers mind about the experiance possibly being not real, once that goes then the patient doesn't know whats real or not anymore and is messed up even further.
i think all this genderfluid acceptance bullshit is essitiantly the equivilant to saying 'come inside so the aliens cant get you'
by pandering to it we are giving it credibility in the sufferers mind, it goes from a fringe mental abnormality that could be reigned in by a bit of self reflection and counciling to a fully fledged delusion that is reinforced everytime someone says xer and normalises the behavior.
TL;DR non binary gender is a mental illness and we are hurting the afflicted by normalising their behaviors.
Transgender people are four times more likely than the general population to report living in extreme poverty, making less than $10,000 per year, a standing that sometimes pushes them to enter the dangerous trade of sex work. Nearly 80% of transgender people report experiencing harassment at school when they were young. As adults, some report being physically assaulted trains and buses, in retail stores and restaurants.
Or maybe it's because people often misunderstand and are violent towards them and they lack very good home lives.
To be fair, mate, I always assume there are three genders based on chromosomes, which would be the obvious male and female, but then throw in hermaphrodites, because it is an oddity in the chromosomes.
You might find out, if you could only convince a woman to take her cloths off in front of you.
either the act of fucking or a non specific descriptor for gender.
> lets have sex tonight
> the sex of the baby is female
Gender is made up, nonsensical bullshit.
Your identity is not from within, it is physical.
Stop trying to justify that you dont fit in, as being anything to do with your sexual organs or identity.
Yep, this. If you want to crossdress occasionally because sometimes you just feel like being more girly and treated more girly (or the other way around), then whatever. Just don't make your entire identity built around the fact that you just can't decide whether to wear a dress or not. It's pathetic if that's everything you are as a human being.
if someone has a tumor, we cut the tumor off and blast it with radiation to kill any fragments that might be left behind, thus returning the suffer to normalacy and health.
what we dont do is define the patient by his tumor, give him the pronoun Ter and make a special bathroom for him to go into by himself, we dont sue doctors that are trying to get rid of his tumor, we dont start trying to make schools teach people that having tumors is fine and normal, and if you dont like tumors you are a biggot.
Look dude if you don't know how to read or don't believe what you've been told then fine by me. All definitions are "made up". If you can't cope with other peoples problems then don't become a psychiatrist.
Normal in Canada to leave the doors unlocked. Round up your crew of niggas, drive to Canada, profit. Caution: after the raid is successful, the niggas may try to kill you. Be prepared for that.
More importantly, who gives a flying fuck what people want to identify as. If you want me to call you Lord Bananahands, King of the Cumguzzling Nigger Squad, be my fucking guest. Just don't be fucking abrasive
If someone is born without an arm do we say "buck up pal, you were born that way"? nah, we get that sap an arm. You can't blast an arm on with radiation, and you can't fight away tender issues. But you can add a robotic arm or give hormones/surgery to help with normalcy.
Things like this almost make you hope the atheists are right, because it's hard to bear the thought of the face-palming despair our heavenly father would feel at this level of fucking up.
precicly my point, a person has a deficiancy in some way, we recognise it as a problem and address it.
so why dont we do that when it comes to the problem of gender related mental illness, instead we make a song and dance about it and act like it's normal, anyone that says otherwise is a biggot and that the end of it.
its an illness, but transistioning is not the treatment, it is possibly the worst thing that you could do, instead of getting actual help to normalise a sick mind, now the afflicted is even more mentally messed up, and to top it off they have mutilated genitals.
Sometimes they feel like being a guy, sometimes they feel like being a girl.
t. An uncle to a niece that needs a fucking smack across the face to smarten her up, but her dad is a fucking dumbass and is perfectly ok with all her bullshit.
no, i'm for addressing the root cause of the problems, the underlying mental health issues.
in my mind transitioning is the equivilant of putting a sticker on top of a tumor that says "everything is fine here"
According to the DSM, which is basically the comprehensive book on mental illnesses, that IS a treatment. It's not the right way for everyone to go, but it definitely helps a good deal of people out.
my question to you is this then, if a boy feels like a girl and wants to transition they give him estrogen so he can kind of get close to being a girl right? among other things anyway...
maybe his problem all along was a lack of testosterone?
maybe the solution was to give him a chemical supplament that will get his male hormones back to their normal levels?
you know like how people with diabetes are given insulen to get their blood sugar back to normal levels.
people with diabetes aren't assigned new digestive tracts that are solely designed for eating cakes are they?
wanna fight about it? Jesus said if someone doesn't agree with you, you should smack the shit out of them. If they make you chase them a mile, make them run an extra mile. If they steal your bag, make them carry an extra fucking bag.
"Gender fluid" in a nutshell
> Be female
> wake up one day feeling slightly masculine and feel like doing physical shit
> Emotions? Nahh this shit is a whole new fucking gender
Of all the fucking made up genders, this one annoys me the most for some reason.
It's not really that simple High levels of testosterone won't change much aside from physical appearance and sex drive. Testosterone and estrogen don't really effect your personality. just your mood and those things I mentioned before. Men with High testosterone still feel like women inside just with extra manly bodies and control over there emotions.
jesus (if he existed at all) was a deranged rabbai that camped underneath bridges like a homeless person.
he is the equivilent of a crazy hobo muttering to himself at the bus stop.
besides the only record of Jesus's life are in the bible, a book written decades after any of the events were supposed to have taken place, by a comittee of people that were not even there at the time.
sounds like bullshit to me.
consider the suicide rate, they obviously need to recommend transition to fewer people, right now the people who think they support trans people are actually the biggest contributors to their demise through increased suicide, no other group have made such a successful attempt at culling their numbers, that should be a wake up call for you assholes
I had a small asian reversetrap boy freak out on my because I held the door open for him (her).
People really have a luxury of being degenerates now. Back in the good ol' days someone would just gas them or inquisition their ass.
Then explain why M&Ms are exactly the same size as ancient Roman nail heads. Pro-tip: you can't!
>Conclusion: Jesus really existed, and the Mars confectionery company (named in honor of another God) created M&Ms in that exact size purely out of spite so that Jesus couldn't enjoy them like the rest of us. Of course Jesus responded by turning M&Ms into Snickers bars and now roams around with Mr T in a tank. So bitch, please.... Jesus is cool. You should be a friend to him. Don't worry I will pray for you. Even if Jesus is too busy, maybe his friend Buddha, or even Ganesh can chill with you for a while. Ps. Ganesh is fond of bananas, not Snickers bars. Buddha is cool with just about anything though.
and still trans people act and behave in social situations like their original gender, men who now appear as female are more likely to have men interests and vice versa, basically they are men and act like men in many ways
not to mention when they do act female they usually over do it, like a theater actor compared to a movie actor, a person who exaggerate the movements and makes things obvious, honestly, the hormones does shit all besides making them emotional wrecks and giving them tits, maybe over time they will make muscle mass reduced so that their manly bone structure shows better
I'm aware its much more complicated than just testosterone, i just simplified my argument into it's most condensed form for ease of typing, but the point is, if someone starts displaying unhealthy behaviors the natural thing to do is to try and correct that and bring them back, not push them further into those behaviours.
consider a kid that starts acting out in school and hanging out with a troublesome gang.
you try and break the cycle of behaviour because you know it will end up leading him to becoming a criminal too.
what you dont do is hand the kid a gun and a bandenna and tell him to enjoy himself, and if the police say anything negative to him, its just them being biggoted and to ignore them.
yeah well you came here instead of tumblr, instead of 5million genders you get to enjoy
> fucking pears
> cock rate
> ima kill myself (and i really mean it)
> and many many more exciting diversions to whiter away your time between now and the grave.
It's more that I don't boast about how I'm in the special anonymous club
>not saying all of it is untrue, just should give less shits
It's not really possible with out brain washing though. No amount of medicine is going to make a trans person accept anything less then a body that their mind perceives itself in.
Genocide and the extermination of the source of this illness (usa) is the only and final solution
>has to use the word 'edgy' in every sentance
Are you that insecure?
their mind grew into the mistaken idea that they have the wrong gendered body, through a combination of chemical and environmental factors, if they can grow in one direction, they can be made to grow back in the other, it just takes effort.
people that are depressed are so because of a combination of chemical and environmental factors, we can bring them back to being happy with a combination of councilling and medicatation. why should mistaken gender disorder be any different?
a brain is just a sophisticated meat and juice computer, if you can understand how to program it you can achieve almost anything.
besides you are implying that there is a disconnect between the mind and the body, they are intrinsically linked to each other. your conciousness is not a seperate entity from your brain and body, they are all one and the same.