Obama administration will be sending a letter to every public school in the US that anymore can use any bathroom or locker room they want. What does /b/ think about this?
Sounds like a dictatorship to me, the federal government can not tell the individual states what to do. So when the states tell the government no, the fed blackmails them by cutting off federal funding from the collection of taxes from the very people living in those states. Complete horseshit
>Transgenders get the right to use the restroom they are most comfortable with
>Straight men and women get angry
>Straight men threaten to use women's bathrooms as a means to "take advantage" of the system.
>When straight men are more perverted than the people they are claiming to label as perverts
America' fuck yeah!
ITT: reactionary right-wingers cry about shit that doesn't affect them and make slippery slope arguments–AGAIN
What's next, liberals don't understand economics? You all are getting predictable.
>I identify as an attack helicopter
Wow lol!!! Such a cutting political satire! Because identifying as an inanimate machine of war is just as absurd as identifying as the opposite sex!!! xDDDDDD you've lampooned this whole discussion!!11 we should all stop talking about the issue now and focus on your hilarious joke!!!!!11111
I love how everyone's all I FUCKING LOVE SCIENCE I'M A HARD-NOSED SKEPTIC SHOW ME THE FACTS HURR DURR until it comes to asking what the research on gender dysphoria actually shows, and whether any of the "treatments" currently in use improve their quality of life or lower their suicide rate
The next generation of kids isn't even going to get what's happening if they actually do get molested; they're just going to think it's some other fucked up lifestyle choice they haven't learned about yet
If you have a dick you go in the mens if you have a vagina you go in the womens. If your so fucked up that you scare the living shit out of everyone that sees you then go piss in a cup or kill yourself.
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I always wondered which issues the government would pursue if they had to abide by the same laws and rulings.
Not a single elected government official.
Protected by security services with guns.
Gender neutral bathrooms?
Imagine Obama letting his daughters in a closed room with a big, fat, hairy child molester. Will never happen.
The only reason this shits accepted is because of mob mentality. Everyones convinced that if you don't like it your a bigot without trying to think about if there is actually any reason for it other than edgey ass teens who hate their parents and are trying to be unique and diffrent because they're to cowardly to actually do something cool to make friends, looking for attention.
Bernie Quietly sadly looked at cruz his tender wrinkly heart broke into pieces he clenched on his chest tears soon bursted out of his gentle devner sage eyes he cried he marched off his seat onto his soon to see obama in the backseet naked and saying bernies name softly bernie soon stopped to cry he mumbled"Obama care.."
yes but on the other hand what is wrong with mixed bathrooms
two groups want to use the different bathroom
1 man who think they are woman
2 woman who think they are man
in situation 1 just use the stalls in the man bathrooms these are even cleaner than those in the girl bathrooms
in situation 2 unless you had a sex change you can only uses stalls so use the stalls in the woman bathrooms
there is not 1 reason to allow this all the reasons you can make up in favor you can also uses against it from this cis scum point of view
than give me 1 reason why this is good
also i have worked as a cleaner in a school and in a hospital but let me tell you woman bathrooms are way filthier than male bathrooms so now my bathrooms are gone get disgusting
>This should be a state issue.
Not even a state issue. If you have a dick, use the mens room. If you don't, use the womens room.
Seriously guys... how fucking hard can it be? The bathrooms aren't for identifying. It's for pissing and shitting. Use the right room.
I don't care who is in the bathroom with me, make all bathroom gender neutral for all I care. I'm going to jack off after I take a dump either way. At least women won't bitch about how long I'm taking.
You don't care now but wait until someone (like a FtM) sees your cock in the mens room and suddenly you're arrested for exposing yourself, even if you're just standing at the urinal.
first off i said the stalls are cleaner you know those things that are only used when all the urinals are in use
they are cleaner in the mans bathroom
second have you ever been to a woman bathroom those things are disgusting as fuck
Yea I've looked in womens bathrooms before they're always like pink and clean as fuck thats why every man ever born is jealous that women always have better and cleaner bathrooms.
How dare you not conform to your black overlord.
Tell me that true story again, anon. It sounded so true.
I mean, much less public hair and poorly dropped turds than I was expecting.
Your post, expunged of omglolbbq is
>Because identifying as an inanimate machine of war is just as absurd as identifying as the opposite sex.
That's just a statement of your position, there isn't any argument behind this thesis.
In my school we already don't separate the bathrooms even though there are signs on the doors, and no one bats an eye. I remembered that this is unusual couple weeks ago when my mum was visiting, and she had to go, but she just asked me twice if it is really cool to use the mens room, I said yes, and that was the end of the conversation. TL;DR I don't get what's there to talk about
because people hit me because i am trans i can use the different bathroom???
you are the bright light of the family right
the only thing this will do is make trans people an easier target for those that do not like them and make more people feel uncomfortable around trans people so how does this help them
Are you literally retarded, or do you not understand what sarcasm is? Here's the definition, if you're still struggling with it:
": the use of words that mean the opposite of what you really want to say especially in order to insult someone, to show irritation, or to be funny"
So you see, when I said identifying as an attack helicopter is just as absurd as identifying as the opposite sex, I meant the opposite. Okay, cupcake?
yeah faggot (based on the term cupcake)
sarcasm doesn't work on the internet especially when discussing things related to feminism because they believe things you would assume are sarcasm but it turns out to be there real believes
ALL HAIL THE DEER LORD
a person of wisdom descended upon us
Mmkay, well I guess I'll elaborate. The medical community acknowledges trans people, and pretty much universally concluded that the best course of action for them is transitioning, because traditional therapy is ineffective. There has never been a single documented case of someone identifying as an attack helicopter.
Are we done here?
just because the only way a doc can put a dent in the men pretending to be women suicide rate is by giving into your delusions doesn't mean that you are actually not a man who likes to pretend he is a woman.
no, because wanting to mutilste your body isnt normal. being so selfconcious about having or not having a penis is not normal. thwy may as well be identifying as an attack helicopter, because they are mentally ill.
>There has never been a single documented case of someone identifying as an attack helicopter.
So the absence of proof is enough to not only prove non-existence, but also make it absurd?
there could have been people identifying as a attack helicopter there are enough people who identify as some animal or mythical creature so why not an attack helicopter
but other than that the fact that people believe they are something does not mean that it is not a mental illness
Sure, there is more to it. It's a vocational education school, so in some fields like stylists or designers you have more girl students, while there are more men in the culinary department. Since the floors with workrooms have 1 bathroom per floor, everyone just goes to the bathroom on their floor. Funny enough the teachers have a teacher only bathroom on the first floor we are not allowed to use (probably because it is always clean and super tidy)
>make a perfectly sensible argument
>HURR DURR YOU HAVE NO ARGUMENT REEE DAMAGE CONTROL REDPILL
The opinion of the medical community > your stupid uneducated opinions
This whole "controversial issue" (that most people actually don't give a fuck about) Is just about trying to divide people even more, distract them from more important issues, and bash anyone who isn't "progressive" enough.
and the medical papers on it
it is still a medical illness
even your own medical community thinks so that a small group that works for feminism disagree is not my problem
it is counted as a mental illness this does not mean that you can't live your live outside the mental hospital
The ones who could pull off looking like women would used the women's rest room. The ones who even gave the slightest impression to someone that "yeah, ok... that *might* be a woman" used the womens restroom" (because almost no one before these laws would go out of their way to cause a scene in the restroom). The ones who could not give a female impression what so ever didn't try dressing as a women in when in public and would go in "boy mode" and use the men's room.
Any new law on the books will just be doing the status quo that already existed. The only change will be allowing bathroom trolls the chance to be look like men and use the women's restroom. It also gives activist lawyers something to threaten businesses with and to make money suing schools, governments, and private businesses.
Shit man, I'm torn. All about gay rights but the gender thing is going nuts in the US. My thought is that there are so many people with weird hang ups and mental illness that we could eventually have an infinite number of non-biological gender types (there are two of those outside of anomalies) so it's just so much more simple to allow anyone to go anywhere...plus, we'd save money on one bathroom type country wide.That being said, nothing is going to stop little Johnny from trying to sneak a peak or something. Guess that's case by case and the schools will have to document it. And if you're a child in a public bathroom who can easily be raped or something then you have bad parents anyways and you've probably been abused.
You should really read the sources you post that you THINK support your argument:
"The DSM-IV-TR diagnostic component of distress is not inherent in the cross-gender identity; rather, it is related to social rejection and discrimination suffered by the individual. Psychology professor Darryl Hill insists that gender dysphoria is not a mental disorder, but rather that the diagnostic criteria reflect psychological distress in children that occurs when parents and others have trouble relating to their child's gender variance. Transgender people have often been harassed, socially excluded, and subjected to discrimination, abuse and violence, including murder.
In December 2002, the British Lord Chancellor's office published a Government Policy Concerning Transsexual People document that categorically states, "What transsexualism is not ... It is not a mental illness." In May 2009, the government of France declared that a transsexual gender identity will no longer be classified as a psychiatric condition."
>it's just so much more simple to allow anyone to go anywhere
This doesn't make it something the executive power has to take care of. It would be more reasonable to suggest the local communities get the users opinion on it, and make organic decisions. With time and people moving around, a more regional consensus might appear. If there isn't a consensus, so be it.
This here.....yes this very much I honestly believe my kids will kill somebody I've raised them to understand if somebody touches them Inappropriately then it gives them every right to kill them and to go about their day as if nothing has happend I'll help destroy evidence
there are weird fuckers around in this town, and I really can't see why some stupid fuck would complain that a person with breasts and vagina is in the changing room with them
I mean, there are plenty of ugly fuckers in the changing room when I go in there and I don't want to actually have sex with a single one of them. I don't see why a fugly woman who wants to be a man would be any different!
since the law was enacted by emperor obummer weve already had 419 rapes of girls under the age of 6 by "women"
its estimated that by the end of 2016, 300k+ girls under the age of 6 will of been anally penetrated by "women"
this number is expected to go up exponentially every year
and this is exactly what the jews wanted
You're missing the point asshole, we are talking about America here. You don't allow social rejection or discrimination to cause you to cross dress and relate to the other sex, no, you repress that shit and not bother other people with it.
People that panic about sexual issues are retarded.
1. Do you have separate bathrooms in your home?
2. Your children shouldn't be unattended in a public restroom
3. Locks are to no longer be used on public restroom doors
4. A sign on a door wouldn't and couldn't prevent someone from being assulted in a restroom anyway.
So to you people that are against us all pooping in the same bathrooms. You must be so insecure with yourself that you probably just should not use a public restroom and anything for public use ever. Because people bad and everyone wants to rape eachother.
Trannies don't want genderless bathrooms, they want to piss with little girls in the women's room. Obama will probably make unisex bathrooms illegal, otherwise there's no degeneracy to force on children.
and you should not force people of a different sex on me in the bathroom
why should they need to go to a bathroom of a different sex when it is not such a big problem to go with people from the different sex to the bathroom
Gay is one thing, but when you think you're a woman when you have a cock, you're mentally ill. Hey, do whatever you want, so long as it doesn't infringe upon me. Now it's starting to infringe upon me with laws and hate for disagreeing.
So it's not a mental illness but is just a somebody who wants to be gender variant and push his fetishes onto to everyone else. Still sounds like someone fucked in the head. So it's all just a bunch of feminine dudes with Boarderline Personality Disorder then?
my school (I am staff btw) does not have any gender specific bathrooms. There are only toilet areas which are by the hallway. The sinks and hand driers are in the open, and there is a line of cubicles which anybody can use. The school was redeveloped less than 5 years ago though, but I fully agree with this policy.
They messed up with the changing rooms though; there are gender specific ones with open showers which the kids won't use because they don't want to shower in front of other kids. I don't know why they did that they should have done the same as the toilets IMO. I've been at swimming pools with a 'changing area' which was just a bunch of private cubicles and no problems
lol, look at this little reddit faggot getting mad. What's funny is you think your bullshit is going to be allowed to continue much longer. Better get you kiddy fondling done now....
They vote on the DSM and other regions of the worldbuse different manuels. Something will appear in one edition, disappear, and rear appear. So let's make it simple: How is believing you're in the wrong body not mental or the dissosance not a health issue? Don't add regressive liberal propaganda to it either
Uh, you're the one forcing segregation in bathrooms. No one is forcing you to use the "public" bathrooms.
Also at one point in time we didn't have bathrooms at home, and had to walk a few miles down to an Olympic size pool with luke warm water with like 50 other people all bathing and washing clothes together. Drop your ego a bit there bro.
we have public bathrooms who are separated by the sex someone has
i think you shouldn't change that
i have a big ego for not wanting people of a different sex in the bathroom for my sex
>Government is deciding on what is a mental illness
>switch to funding academics who only agree
being pro-trans is the new anti-drug but now the liberal authoritarians are in charge
When my brother came out to me a few weeks ago I beat him until he passed out and threw him in the street, its been like 3-4 weeks and no one has heard of him, his flat mate says he hasnt seen him since that date, so ill just do that, beat them again and again and have them disappear from life.
>it's all a plot of the sinister liberal cabal
Keep living on /pol/ and not in the real world. Keep clinging to that "redpill."
You keep responding because you know I have a point, and you want to silence me by attempting (and failing) to humiliate me with namecalling and personal attacks, but I'm afraid you've done nothing to deter me.
>"trump supporters lack self awareness"
>"ohai guise, I've got male genitals and a hairy ass but I'm actually a cute little girl who needs to drastically fuck with my natural body's hormones because, once again, I am a cute little girl. Now let me piss with females goddamit!"
No doubt, the point is that the states didn't change without force. lol, you're talking about states that needed to go to war about selling people when most of the population knew it was wrong.
The only point you have is that you're a homosexual pedo. Nobody is taking you seriously, in fact we're all laughing at you. It's funny when lefty retards stray off of their reddit hugboxes and pretend like they aren't complete morons. You're delusional, and on the losing side, and it makes you mad when the world doesn't fit your retarded fantasies. It's fun watching you reply to everyone and get mad though.
Because stop oppressing me that's why.
A school near me has unisex bathrooms. A circle of cubicles with sinks in the middle.
Works fine until someone shits out last nights curry. Then you can watch the women complain
>we're all laughing at you
>I'm not just trying to desperately discredit your argument that comes from logic and evidence and not just namecalling and bare assertions
I know I'm such a looooser! You guys showed me! I need to use less facts and more MEMES
no because niggers were still male/female and they were segregated on way more ways than male/female believe me i'm dutch we invented apartheid
but this is different this is people who
look like a certain sex
have the biology of a certain sex
but they say they are of the opposite sex oh then we can just let them go to the bathroom of the different sex
i don't care if you make unisex bathrooms they exist in certain places but when you have different bathrooms for the different sexes than keep them separated
I don't like taking a shit while someone else is in the bathroom. I imagine there are a lot more people like me than there are trangender individuals. Can we please have our own private restrooms in public buildings?
Lookout Gals: I'm dumping all 4 bottles in the 1st floor SW Women's Room!
Have a white niggress then.
> public bathroom
> own shit stink
> jack off
what kind of fucking degenerate pervert are you?
Maybe a black Japanese?
>half Black American
This is FANTASTIC! Now I've got time to set up this prank & put the pinholes in the ketchup packs
exactly in the right place where it'll spray right on
If you were born with a dick, use the men's.
If you were born with a vag, use the women's.
If you're one of God's mistakes and have both, use the men's because you most likely look like a cave troll anyway.
>allowing horny perverted children use any restroom they desire
Wow, that's a horrible idea.
Why does the lipstick appear away from his face, but in the mirror he is currently apply it to his lips.....
DOES HE HAVE A DELAYED MIRROR AND HOW WOULD ONE IF THOSE BE EVEN REMOTELY USEFUL.
Do you all realize that this is an election year, and the whole point of this stupid issue is to distract all you fucking morons from the REAL issues we need to be dealing?
This happens EVERY god damn election year.
No, that's flavor of the month buzz and viral news.
There's always one hot button issue that the two parties will rabble-rouse about once election year sets in.
Live through a few more presidential elections kid before you contradict something you're not old enough to know.
Still waiting faggots. Come on, I didn't even call it a "disorder" - although if that word upsets you talk to the APA, not me.
Actually come to think of it - gender dysphoria really should get pulled from the DSM - then there would be no billing code to get their hormone "therapies" covered under insurance
isn't always just "those ppl are evil and should be punished b/c they don't pander to whatever special interest group you identify with" vs. "please elect me so I can improve the improve the economic wealth and stability of everyone" ?
>Government’s $19.1 trillion debt and the projected return of $1 trillion annual deficits.
>The 94 million working-age Americans who are not currently in the labor force.
>Income levels that are 6.5 percent lower than before the recession – and still shrinking.
>An economy that hasn’t grown by more than four percent annually since 2000.
>Soaring health care costs stemming from ongoing attempts to socialize medicine.
>Entitlement programs projected to begin running multi-billion dollar deficits far sooner than anyone is willing to admit.
>$1 trillion-a-year welfare state that incentivizes dependency – and a similarly large bureaucracy that exists to attack productivity and strangle innovation.
>A secretive central bank that can print and lend billions of dollars indiscriminately with no public oversight or government audit.
Can't tell me you never took a shit so big and solid that it pressing against your prostate made you pop a boner
>Crony capitalist trade deals that subsidize the outsourcing of American jobs and the exploding of our trade deficits.
>Government-run schools that continue to fail future generations of students despite receiving hundreds of billions of dollars in new money each year.
>Federal law enforcement agencies that want to unlock every iPhone and iPad in America – and the spy state empowering them.
>Leftist lawmakers at all levels of government who are trying to take your guns.
>A failed war on drugs that is trampling on liberty, denying medical options to those in need and perpetuating a police state mentality at the local level.
>“Neoconservative” politicians who demand more global military interventions – creating larger, bolder, angrier militant Islamic enemies.
>Open borders – and politicians who want to grant amnesty to illegal aliens already in this country.
>Two indistinguishable political parties that share a monopoly on elections in America – and that
joint desire to do nothing to fix the problems outlined above.
>Corporate-owned media outlets that shamelessly favor the parties and status quo politicians protecting their interests.
But by all means... focus on who's using the stalls next to you. It's what really matters right?
The people who are bitching and yelling about bathrooms probably don't have enough brain power between them all to help deal with any of these issues, so it's not so much a matter of them being distracted as it is them latching on to something they can bitch about on Facebook and feel like they're part of the process.
If anything, they're preoccupation should be encouraged so superior minds can focus on the real issues.
Of course there would be a lot of strong opinions about this issue because so many of you faggots still are in public school and have the associated mental maturity.
honestly It should be based on passability. if people look at you and you look like a girl, go into the girl's bathroom. if you look like a guy, go into the guy's bathroom. If they can't tell you are the opposite gender, no one will be disturbed or uncomfortable.
OP asked about the bathrooms not about the biggest issues facing our country. If you want to go that route, then we can talk about the evil jew agenda but probably better done in another thread.
Yeah, fair point. But you see what I'm getting at.
Political manipulation at it's finest. And the fact that I see about 20 of these threads every day while I'm at work proves my point.
It also begs the question... Who's actually starting all these threads then?
It's really sad the culture we will lose once gendered bathrooms are destroyed.
Male banter, camaraderie, fellowship. You can't have a "bathroom" scene in a movie
Now we get to see period blood, tampons, and fetuses (yes it happens) from disgusting females.
What was the last good "bathroom" scene in a movie?
Also - do you find the movies like There's Somrthing About Mary and American Pie funny?
It's a slippery slope mang, you'd be building bathrooms all damn day. Hey I'm binary gender I need a bathroom, we'll hey I'm nonbinary I need one. I'm a fucking attack helicopter give me my own damn bathroom. That logic applies to other situations as well.
Bathrooms with stalls is one thing.
Locker rooms is completely different. I don't know about yours, but my high school locker rooms were one large open combined locker / shower room per sex.
These are adolescent adults. You're going to have boys dressing up as girls just to get into the girls shower. This directive is inappropriate with respect to adolescent locker rooms and showers.
What if we had bathrooms with urinals, and bathrooms with toilets?