How about making it illegal for fucking minors to change sex you fucking retards fuck
>>681831487
Bump fucker, bump!
>>681831487
sauce on her
Brain sex (or gender as they want to call it) doesn't even fucking develope until the start of puberty. This is just an example of someone forcing their "progressive" views into their children to the point where their kid suddenly thinks it's normal to just say "I want to be a girl now". If you ask me the parents should be arrested for child abuse
>>681832239
Thanks alot for bumping my thread anon
>>681832731
I know right thats just fucking ridiculous and in the comments people are like awww i wish her the best luck and shit what a bunch of fucking retards
>>681832731
So, you didn't know that you were a boy until puberty?
>other part of the text
The problem is not which fucking bathroom that child uses the problem is that he will grow up to be fucking confused as fuck and become a serial killer
>>681832588
*him
>>681833695
>Reply
He sure knew he was a faggot.>>681832731
>>681833695
lol
>>681831487
If someone under 18 is too young to for me to legally fuck, then someone under 18 is probably too young to decide whether they're male or female for the same reasons.
>>681833695
Im not him but wen u was fucking 7 or 8 do you think you knew if you wanted to be a gay faggot or a transgender faggot? Let me know id like an opinion from the other side
>>681833498
>more wonderful people than Cretans
What does she gave against Cretans? It's just an island.
>>681831487
Not one of you have any idea what the fuck you're talking about.
>>681834022
>>681833755
>>681832588
>ITT nice double numbers
>>681833989
nailed it with no sugar coating. bravo anon.
>>681834213
>>681832731
>the parents
>>681833989
>>681834304
Literally completely unrelated.
>>681834213
>>681834318
>>681834203
I'd fuck him
>>681834361
Damn that was an ugly boy anyway. Gonna be a hot trap in 4 years.
>>681834478
>>681834478
not at all unrelated.
>>681834361
of course the boy wanted to be a girl...hes stuck in a fucking peach factory
>>681834361
Does the guy have 2 wife? Fucking muslim
> 1 or 2
>1. Two wife but a transgender boy
>2. No transgender boy one wife
>>681834022
Topest of keks
>>681834807
the one girl is like 17, completely reasonable for a couple their age
>>681834478
100% related you fuck 10 years old have no idea what a sexual identity is unless they're already cancer
>>681831487
Mfw people lose their shit about non-issues in an election year.
>>681834498
>him
>>681834318
>>681835008
I'm sure you knew you were a faggot by the time you were 10.
>>681835008
Transgender is not a sexuality. Most kids know what gender they are. In rare cases it isn't the same as their chromosomes.
>>681834807
>Does the guy have 2 wife? Fucking muslim
chelsea, the older daughter, is from the mom's previous husband - thus she is the dude's step daughter
>>681835231
>muh pointless argument
Seriously kys
>>681835017
>this.
>>681834318
>visit her site
>wants to be /fa/
>literally married to a gay nigger
>mfw
>>681835296
What the fuck does that mean ? You really think that changing sex is so natural that we should let children do it? WTFFF
>>681835398
Time to fap!
>>681835696
You better not be called Fabián. You hear me?
We are watching you.
>>681835398
Good point well made
The saddest part is that this child was 100% bullshit fed by his loberal cuck parents about accepting people who feel different and shit and they probably questioned him about his sexuality even though hes not old enough to have any kind of sexual activities
>>681835619
It's a known anomaly. There are doctors that treat people with GID and can help people make informed decisions. Usually with minors there is an in between period where they delay a natural puberty until the minor has gotten some real life experience and is sure they are making a good decision for them at a pace with which they feel comfortable.
>>681835619
Being born with the wrong sexual identity is such a mess that we _must_ let children have corrective surgery. Suicide rates and quality of life goes to shit if we don't. It's not a case of 'gee, I'd like to be a girl'. Edumacate yourself, redneck.
>>681835587
Fucking hypocrite... Or a big fat liar.
>>681836092
Gender identity has nothing to do with sex, you retard.
>>681836136
>>681836250
>>681836372
Firstly, samefag
Secondly, darwin
Thirdly, kill yourself you dont have a point at all you trap fuck
>>681834203
great, now I'm a trapedo
>>681836250
>10 yrs old kids commit suicide all the time what are you living under a rock
>>681834361
>>681836506
Swing and a miss, retard.
Seriously how does a 6yr just decide to be a girl.
>>681833695
Best post in thread
Everyone getting butthurt in this thread are fucking mouth breathers. These are people who refuse to or cannot understand the nuances of gender and sexuality and thus conform to a simplistic view of human sexuality that is clearly incompatible with the realities therein.
tl;dr: "I'm too stupid to grasp nuance so I'm mad >:("
>>681831487
>itt: dumb as fuck american problems
>>681836746
Something doesn't belong in this picture??
>>681836938
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7NYWd7p-zE
>>681836725
Trans children do, yes. The reason children in general don't kill themselves all the time is there are very few transexuals in the population so it doesn't make much of an overall impact.
Suicide rates for trans people who don't have access to corrective surgery is 1/2. Quality of life for the other half is appalling.
>>681836506
2/3 correct on the samefagging. I'm the last two. Not anywhere near trap/trans/anything. White cis male scum here.
>>681836811
>swing and a miss, retard
I don't know why I laughed really hard at this. thank you.
>>681836938
If you believe that changing sex is fine then kk have fun faggot
If you say that children should be part of your sickness and get their dick chopped off to feel like they are something that THEY ARE NOT at an age that they dont even understand the consequences, i would openly beat the shit out of you
>>681837333
Trips of truth, its not like they step in a magical machine and become the other sex, they are just ruining their health with surgeries and changing their bodies
ITT: traps that don't want to admit that they are mentally ill.
if i didn't believe that a body part that belonged to me, do you think i should chop that off, too? yes, that is a real disorder.
>>681837294
>Suicide rates for trans people who don't have access to corrective surgery is 1/2
suicide rates for people that get the "corrective" surgery is even higher
>>681837333
>to feel like they are something that THEY ARE NOT
But that's exatcly the problem. That's why they have surgery in the first place. The correction isn't perfect, but it's one hell of an improvement.
You can easily educate yourself on the matter rather than foaming madly in your trailer. Perhaps *gasp* you'd learn something.
>>681837270
>Chowder
Literally laughed out loud. Enjoy your unfunny conservative youtube personality, you fucking idiot
>>681837333
>"Ooga booga me mad! me hurt u for different opinion!"
Chill out, mouth breather. Transgender children don't get sexual reassignment surgery. That's something that SOME people do later in life. It's not a prerequisit for being trans. Furthermore, if you think children are incapable of determining what they are or who they like, but YOU are, you're a fucking idiot.
>>681837728
[citation needed]
No, it actually drops to 1/5. Stop pulling shit out your arse.
>"Hurr durr being transgender is a mental illness b cuz they kill themselves" meme
Yeah, well according to that logic, being white is a mental illness
Kek someone remade the thread
>>681837988
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/michael-w-chapman/johns-hopkins-psychiatrist-transgender-mental-disorder-sex-change
Not exactly a source, but close
>He also reported on a new study showing that the suicide rate among transgendered people who had reassignment surgery is 20 times higher than the suicide rate among non-transgender people.
Also should be noted
>Dr. McHugh further noted studies from Vanderbilt University and London’s Portman Clinic of children who had expressed transgender feelings but for whom, over time, 70%-80% “spontaneously lost those feelings.”
>>681837862
are you even a passable trap? i mean you'd still be completely mentally ill, but if you're a hot trap, i'd let it slide.
>>681838290
I'm not transgender, I'm just not a fucking idiot
>>681837988
>No, it actually drops to 1/5. Stop pulling shit out your arse.
sorry, faggot - you're quite simply incorrect
>>681838136
no, they are mentally ill because they have this delusion that they are something that they aren't.
>>681838397
so you have no dog in this fight, eh? who brainwashed you?
>>681837862
Keep blabbing random shit anon its wrong and you are mentally ill
>>681838253
>>He also reported on a new study showing that the suicide rate among transgendered people who had reassignment surgery is 20 times higher than the suicide rate among non-transgender people.
But that's something completely different, you retard. What part of 'non-transgender' did you not understand?
Yes, trans people still kill themselves at high rates compared to normies after corrective surgery and hormone treatment. But they do it at a far lesser rate than transgender people who didn't have any of it.
>>681838136
>they're too busy killing each other to kill themselves
I'm trans autistic. It's hard being normal, but adopting autistic ways.
>>681838681
I wasn't agreeing with him, just showing that they have higher suicide rates. Try not having so much autism next time
>>681838522
Transgender people are under no illusion that their biological sex isn't their gender. However, if you don't know, gender and sex are different. Sex refers to the genotypical differences between men and women whereas gender is the social roles associated with said sex. Since these gender roles are arbitrary, if one feels more comfortable in that role, there's no reason not to occupy it.
>>681831487
Why? That's not an issue.
>>681833695
>>681836938
Doesn't work like that, kids don't know of this "gender fluid" bullshit and are forced to wear dresses and become siss bois cause their fathers a cucks. Like >>681834003 said, when you were a kid you didn't know if you were gonna gonna be gay later in life, the parents literally just chose for him
>>681838656
Facts "brainwashed" me. Actually doing research and learning rather than getting my half baked opinions from conservatives and memes.
>>681838657
Nice argument
>>681831487
I'm ok with it. How else would we get our girly shotas to fuck?
You know he probably takes dick like a fucking champ.
>>681837270
This was cringeworthy.
>>681831487
Jesus look at the amount of make up here, with that much you could make ken Livingston look like a girl.
Our times really are the dark ages.
>>681838136
I don't know where you get the mental illness from, but if you want to argue that being white has its downsides when you're getting the shit end of the stick, you might be right. Perhaps we need to survey what help is offered to white people who are seriously down on their luck. There are all sorts of programs to cater to "minorities" and make sure they don't fall through.
The real takeaway from your graph is that yes, people who are in danger of living horrible lives and think they'd rather off themselves should be offered as much help as society and medicine can give. No matter if they're white or trans, or both.
>>681837114
Who? Obama?
>>681838972
>the parents literally just chose for him
"Hey son, I love you but I've arbitrarily decided that I want you to have a 50% chance at killing yourself and be 6 times more likely to be sexually and physically assaulted"
Yeah, that's what happens, you fucking idiot
>>681831487
I whole heartedly agree op.
>>681838861
gender being different than sex is just made up bullshit people started spouting to justify them being mentally ill
>>681838861
This always seemed like complete bullshit, backpedaling and hollow justification to me. You use the terms gender roles and gender interchangeably, but gender and sex are two different things? Gender roles is not the same as gender, and you can't just change the definition of words to justify your actions. I honestly don't care about your mental issues, but stop fucking with my language.
>>681839275
I'm not actually saying that white people are mentally ill. I'm pointing out that that logic is flawed. Trans people kill themselves because they're overwhelmingly bullied, assaulted, and raped (look up the statistics, they're staggering).
>>681838972
Being gay is a sexual thing that you can't know before puberty. Gender identity is not a sexual thing, and can be known before puberty. Is this even hard to understand? It aso has nothing at all to do with "want". It's an 'is'.
>>681839310
>theres a pic of a boy looking like a full on like a girl
>he totally decided to dress and look like this on his own, theres no way his parents had any say in the matter
>>681838861
>Transgender people are under no illusion that their biological sex isn't their gender.
yes, they are
>However, if you don't know, gender and sex are different. Sex refers to the genotypical differences between men and women whereas gender is the social roles associated with said sex.
for people living in reality, sex and gender are interchangeable
>Since these gender roles are arbitrary, if one feels more comfortable in that role, there's no reason not to occupy it.
Since these social roles are arbitrary, if one feels more comfortable in that role, there's no reason not to occupy it.
you realize the doors that open due to this dumbfuckery way of thinking?
>>681834003
Not the guy you asked but I knew something was up since about 12 (gay male). Except I never came to terms with it till I was 18 or so. Thought I could be bi but turned out to be more wishful thinking and repression.
As far as gender dysphoria is concerned...I have no clue when that starts showing. I'm sure you could find an academic source if you weren't such a faggot.
>>681839310
how would a child even know its possible to be a trans faggot retard like you without his parents talking to him about it?
now you will say : internet blabla i tell children to do this on my tumblr forum
to which i reply letting your child unsupervised on the internet is bad parenting
>>681839344
thanks friend i dont get it these people are so fucking stupid a child is impressionable why fill their head with such bullshit lets see how many of these poor child end up child molesters or fucking kill themselves
>>681838861
wouldn't you think that if somebody believed their mentally ill delusion so strongly that they started hacking off parts of their body, that would be a problem?
>>681839570
>raped
I find that one a little hard to believe, but if you say so. I wonder what's going on through the criminal's head when they think "I want to rape a trap today".
>>681839057
where did you get your facts from? tumblr?
>>681831487
So fucking agree!
You can't have sex because you are too young to understand the mental & emotional issues
You can't drive a car because your brain and co-ordination are not mature enough
You can't drink because self-control issues have not matured.
But you can get a fucking sex change.
>>681831487
>be me a father of a little girl
>out at publix picking up some food
>she tells me she has to "pee pee"
>take her to the bathroom
>take her into the men's room because fuck it I'm not going in no womens room
>awkwardly pause when entering the bathroom cause some men in there stop pissing and turn their gazes upon my daughters
>Some faggot shakes his head and says to me as I rush by them "can't you just accept her the way she was born?"
>I'm confused but the bitch has to pee so we go into the stall
>I realize while she's pissing that those fags must have thought she was trans and I was forcing her to go into the men's
>come out after she pees and see the guy washing his hands and tell him something along the lines of "she's not trans or nothing dude she's my daughter"
>his eyes widen and mouth bears his teeth like a gowling dog
>i'm suddenly grabbed and held down by the other men in the stall
>the man rips out his dick and starts to ravage my daughter's tiny pussy
>I try to scream for help but my cries are droned out by the man who is screaming at the top of his lungs "HEIL DONALD TRUMP" over and over again.
>My daughter is crying but several men come in and don't even pay attention to it
>I scream "what the fuck is wrong with you"
>A man wearing a republican button on his shirt turns and says "why he's innocent until proven guilty of course."
>He then pulls out his NRA assault rifle and shoots my daughter with automatic FMJ extended rounds that blow me away
>>681839419
It's a medical fact. A very well researched medical fact. You'd understand that, Cletus, if you'd ever even talked to a medical professional once in your life, other than to get that mobility scooter of yours.
>>681839419
>Psychology made up a major aspect of sexuality and social roles to accomidate less than 1% of the population
That's idiotic. Plus it's apparent from a logical persective. There's literally no reason a dress is considered women's clothing. It's arbitrarily assigned a gender. Thus gender is something seperate from sex that's fabricated for societal benefit.
>>681839542
Gender and sex are scientifically defined as two different things. I'm sorry facts upset you
>>681839572
you are so retarded lmao
i support homosexuality 100% my gf's brother is homosexual and hes one of my best friends, but thinking "you just know your sex the little kid whose balls havent dropped yet just know hes a girl'' HE IS MALE HE HAS MALE HORMONES HE HAS MALE GENITALS HE IS MALE KILL YOURSELF YOU ARE MALE NO SURGERY WILL MAKE YOU A WOMAN JUST A FUCKED UP HUMAN BEING WEIRDO MALE
kids probably like ; ohh im so pretty as a girl and i get to have a handbag where i can put my beyblades awesomeee
>>681832731
Bullshit. Yes you do - there are behaviours attributed to all males even at young ages to be dominant figure, boys are often more agressive and play 'wilder' by nature. The fact that young boys like superman and GI joe and skateboards and call of duty is not a 'taught' thing, it's a natural gradient that seperates them from the females and prepares them for a life where they should fight with other males to attain the right to impregnate a female and carry on their genes.
I'm not judging but anything but heterosexualism is a mental disease, something went wrong at some step in the reproductive process.
Get triggered cunts
>>681839572
>wanting to dress like a girl isn't gay at all its just gender identity
fuck off please
Transsexuals come off as hypocritical and sexist to me. They ask you to set aside your traditional expectations of gender roles, and in the same breath adopt the traditional expectations of the other sex.
If you're a dude who feels like a lady, fine. Slap on a dress and shave your legs. That's just material shit anyway. But don't get pissed at people for having certain ideals of what feminine and masculine is when you're following the very same lines for the opposite team.
>>681839123
yeah, i like making people cringe at some facts. how bad does reality scare you? are you on titty skittles yet?
>>681839625
>Since these social roles are arbitrary, if one feels more comfortable in that role, there's no reason not to occupy it.
ever since i was 8 i felt like i was a nigger inside, i wanted to steal things and shit, my dad was very nice he paid foer a surgery where they injected ink into my body and they say i am now 100% from africa
>>681839572
I bet you're one of those people who thinks gender is all mental but race is all physical...
Remember kids, opinions are not necessarily facts. Saying "why is that so hard to understand" is one of those "I have no actual defense so I'll act smug or derisive and hope they go away" arguments. Just like the "it's 2016" argument. I know what the date is. It doesn't mean you aren't wrong.
>>681840014
You have to be a complete moron to think the perception of gender doesn't have underlying neurological mechanisms regardless of society/culture.
>>681839681
>how would a child even know its possible to be a trans faggot
He doesn't have to know. They're fucking born that way. Do you think potato children went potato because they researched it, found it was possible, thought it was cool and decided to potato?
>>681839885
yeah man what the actual fuck
>>681831487
They're a bunch of degenerates.
>>681840199
That's what happens when a person of one gender spends half their life putting the other on a pedestal. They expect to be treated the same way they always have, yet also want to live up to their absurd expectations of how the gender they're transitioning to should be treated.
>>681839911
Medical professionals do not get their doctorates from tumblr. None of them believe that, they just don't care enough about your delusions until they endanger someone or cost taxpayer money
>>681840353
>gender is all mental
Define mental. If you think I believe it's some fluid thought process, then no. I believe out gender is hard coded in our brain. It's no less physcal than out benis/vagoo. That doesn't mean the brain coding can't sometimes be at odds with the peenor coding. Shit happens and babies get wired wrong.
>dont presume to tell me what i believe, twat
>>681831487
This is the wonderful cherry-picking of today's society and academic elite.
Body Dysmorphia: mental illness
Body Integrity Identity Disorder: mental illness
Alien Limb Syndrome: mental illness
Wanting to have your dick chopped off/feeling like your sex doesn't match your gender: normal
Any further arguing of this is rife with bias. It's all about what receives attention and publicity. Opinions will continue to be formed by journalism.
>>681836938
Who fucking cares about gender or sex when you're a kid? Some stupid ass parents do and doesnt respect that kids needs to be kids and not worry about who they wanna become and shit.
>but he/she wants says he/she/whatever is trans
Some kids play war, doesnt mean you buy them a gun and ship them to Irak.
Others are absolutely convinced they dont need school, obviously you still know better as an adult and keep them in school.
Fucking progressive PC bullshit
>>681839587
Again, do you really think parents would subject their children to increased sexual and physical violence on a whim? Just because parents support their childrens decisions doesn't mean they made the desicion. Poor argument
>>681839625
>for people living in reality, sex and gender are interchangeable
And for psychologist and sociologists who actually know what they're talking about, they arent.
>>681839681
This is exactly the same stupid argument bigots used for gay people. It's a tired meme of an argument.
>>681839689
>Hacking off body parts
Oh you mean cosmetic surgery? Wouldn't want to make it sound like something people already do, would you? It would make your argument sound uninformed.
>>681839748
http://www.ovc.gov/pubs/forge/sexual_numbers.html
>>681839827
No, my information doesn't come from fucking websites full of people who don't know what they're talking about (unlike you)
>>681840199
>>681840742
Yo...
>>681840360
mein negger
>>681840366
>comparing trans to a potato
Not disagreeing with you here, but should you really do the opposition's work for them?
>>681831487
I want him in MY bathroom.
Boy, the fun I could have with that
>>681840687
>None of them believe that
I'll just take your word for it, Bubba. An entire medical field to the contrary.
>>681832731
/Thread
Going to be a lot of fucked up kids from this nonsense.
>>681839897
funny story, but you are still mentally ill.
>>681840366
nice good job admitting it is a mental illness, now tell me, what would be your prefered solution here?
1. oh i know we will chop his dick off so he thinks he really is a woman
2. talk to him and explain he was born that way and if he is still unhappy when older he can make his own decisions, and get help
A psychopath man has that idea that his arms are the reincarnation of the devil what should we do to help him
oh iknow we will cut his arms off!!!!! voi fucking la
>>681840840
>> psychology
>> sociology
>> citing pseudo science
>>681840366
we've been getting trolled this whole time, and I didn't even see it coming
Can someone please explain to me what the fuck do these people even fight for? If they say that Corey here is transgender, what exactly does that say about it's brain and crotch sex? Is it a girl/boy, boy/girl or something third?
In my country shit like this is still not too much out of hand, so I don't really understand this growing trend in changing your gender every time you take a piss.
>>681841062
Whether or not you'll end up having gender dysphoria is something decided after your brain is done developing in the womb. But like with puberty and shit, it takes times to develop/manifest itself later on.
>>681840785
facts hurt
>>681840800
You can't develop as a person without having a clear indication of what your gender is. This has been objectively proven. That why they make parents pick a gender for intersex children. If they don't, they grow up fucked up
>>681841019
What actual medical professional has actually said anything remotely close to the bullshit you're defending?
Not a tumblr pshyciatrist or someone making money hand over fist from you, an actual professional.
>>681841001
I would love to just make out with him for at least 20 minutes.
>>681831487
>>681840983
Transgender or not, who the fuck lets their little kids wear makeup? Fucking hell man how people are gonna get pissed at pedophiles when people are turning their boys into little girls and then slapping pornstar makeup on them?
>>681841236
Not even that guy but I bet you can't even understand a journal article.
Also most of psychology research is based on neuroscience, the rest is sociology type shit.
ITT: mentally ill traps and regressive liberal SJWs are explaining why it's okay to fuck up an entire generation of offspring. thank you for driving the human race into the ground, faggots.
being from one of the shittier european countries, I can only laugh at your problems. Transgenders, SJW's, racism and all that faggotry. Over here the only problem is how to get some cash to get drunk on the weekend. Cheers faggots
>>681841225
Option two, obviously. The problem, though, is that we have no way of correcting the brain wiring. We can only try to adat the body to the brain as much as possible, and hormone therapy should be put in at an as early stage as possible before puberty further pushes the body in the "wrong" direction. If you realy think you perform corrective surgery on minors as a matter of course you're probably a trump supporter.
>>681841389
Why don't they do that with race? I'm genuinely curious to hear an actual response from you or a hypocritical pseudoscience semi-justification/opinion, whichever gets posted first
>>681839897
>and america was made great again
thanks trump
>>681841680
what am i looking at?
>>681838861
>Since these gender roles are arbitrary
No matter how much cum you hobble up your faggot ass, you will never get pregnant. You will never lactate. You're just a special snowflake faggot.
>>681839911
This is literally like anorexic people starting a movement because they don't identify as horribly malnourished. It's literally mental illness and 100 years from now we'll look back on doctors that actually perform sex change operations as quacks.
>>681840195
>heterosexualism
I don't think that word means what you think it does.
>>681841975
>what am i looking at?
the guygirl as a 5 year old
>>681841810
Again, gender and sex are different. Sex is biological and cannot change just like race. gender, however, is all the arbitrary societal roles and expectations for a sex. If someone of sex A feels a fidelity with the gender roles of sex B, there's not reason for them not to conform to those roles.
>>681836372
"Gender has nothing to do with gender" makes sense. You should identify with whatever chromosomes you have. If you believe yourself to be anything other than that, something is wrong and you need help.
>>681840199
+10
>>681842010
How do you think pregnancy or lactation is a gender role? You clearly don't understand the actual argument. Go back and try again.
are there any passable traps on here that are taking titty skittles? i want to know what it's like to fuck somebody with severe mental illness, please help.
>>681841389
So? Having a gender is not the same as obsessing over it. Since I think most of us who are not rednecks agree that gender isnt psychologically defined as either A or B but rather a part of the complex perception of identity, why not just teach our children that "it doesnt matter what your label is, its just for society to make sense of it all, in fact it is way more complicated than that and you can chill and be whatever you wanna be".
>>681842199
The thing that makes no sense to me is why people act 'masculine' and 'feminine'. What if, in 100 years, wearing dresses and heels and staying in the kitchen is the norm for men? Will transsexuals suddenly become normal gay people?
>>681831487
Hey OP what retarded fb page is this from
>>681842179
Different society/cultures might have different gender roles, some cultures even have a third gender for trannies. Irrespective of what these roles are, your brain has mechanisms and defined regions for gender perception...the gender roles are arbitrary.
>>681831487
Why do you even give a fuck?
>>681842498
Because some things are forever rooted in our biology, some cultures might have a slightly different take on them but it's never that much different...
>>681835398
I don't rly know the murica rules but s/he's 14 already s/he can consent to sex
>>681842480
That's basically what they do. However, you can't jsut say "be what you wanna be" in a society where trans people are raped and assaulted constantly and where legislation is being passed to micro manage their bathroom usage
>>681840014
Retarded argument, the dress isn't a direct product of made up gender roles, It's a symbol of gender roles 'made' thousands of years after gender roles were 'created' (i say it like that because it's actually in our genes) due to sexual dimorphism and genetic variation. If you throw thousands of cucked hipster faggots and their feminazi girlfriends out in the wild, natural selection will take over and we will fall back into traditional gender roles where the female gives birth and nurses the children and the male hunts for food
>>681842179
Same guy you just answered.
Doesn't that argument inherently mean you think there is something wrong with them, they're/you're just ok with it?
If their gender identity or whatever you call the group of socially patterns/behavior they want to follow doesn't match their actual sex, that's wrong. They may be happier that way, and I wouldn't want to stand in the way of someones happiness, especially if it doesn't otherwise affect me, but it still means something is medically wrong by your definition.
Am I off base here?
I'm genuinely curious because I don't understand the thought process and I highly doubt I ever will. It just seems a little hypocritical to me.
more truth about the trans community here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksajP0hOggY
>>681842010
>You will never lactate.
Entirely possible for men to lactate, it's actually a symptom of breast cancer in men.
>>681840195
>heterosexualism is a mental disease
what's your iq out of interest
>>681842818
>>681842862
why is cat box?
>>681842664
Exactly, that's why being transgender means different things in different places
>>681842664
Lol provide proof we have arbitrary perception of gender, shitlord
>>681831487
I dont qet why something as unconsequential as a quick fuck with an adult is illegal because kids are too young to consent yet a life changing decision isnt
If kids are too immature to take irrelevant decisions, there's no reason they should be able to take definitive ones
>>681842969
To be fair, heels are a rather late addition to the whole "rooted in biology" thing.
Also, I'm pretty sure kilts and powdered wigs and a few other fashions throughout human history have crossed contemporary masculine/feminine lines
It's so good to see the other side acknowledge public restrooms as a place where child molesters and rapists seek out people to victimize. The answer would seem to be to execute the pedos and the rapists. Give us that much, and we'll stop bitching.
>>681842109
Heterosexuality then.
Refute my point, you obviously knew what I meant
>>681843020
Assault sounds a little more believable than rape, but can you blame someone for the bathroom thing?
Depending on the situation it's either a nonissue so who cares, or it runs from uncomfortable to downright creepy
>>681843093
I'm sorry, what's your argument again? That seemed like nonsense. What do you think is going to happen? Society is going to collapse if people don't conform to your autistically narrow definitions of gender?
>>681843115
I wouldn't say there's something "wrong" with them, per se. I mean, yeah their genitals don't match what our society expects them to do, but I wouldn't go as far to say something is wrong with that person.
It basically just depends on how you feel society would function without hard conformity to gender roles. Personally, I think that even if trans people are "wrong," it doesn't manifest in a malicious behavior so fuck it, who cares?
>>681843017
American laws generally say minors cant consent till 18. Also 3-4 age difference is acceptable depending on which state
If 18+s cant fuck them because its too young then why are we so interested in them having open freedom to let everyone know who they fuck? Cant I just not care like always? fuck off LGBTZHESHEEIEIO community this is why we fucking ignore you, because you fucking suck as people.
>>681841552
The humanities are for faggots. And the journals you're thinking of? Written by faggots as well.
No one cares as much about gender and sexuality as transgender people. Thats whats fucking ironic and why its hard to not get sick of it. Had a friend who was a girl and always talked about gay rights and shit. I thought "thats cool, I can agree with that". One day she "came out" as a transgender and had a whole lecture about how to adress her and how I had to adjust to this. "Fine by me".
But I kept saying "she" because to me she was my friend and exactly what word was used or not didnt fucking matter to my brain so I kept forgetting.
>mad af
After only like a month and several serious talks I was the bad guy and was being ignorant.
I just wanted to be her friend but she was too obsessive about here gender, it was so fucking important to her.
Our friendship ended up fading and I just think its was such a waste.
The transgender fad as it exists today is definitely not healthy for people, it might be for a good cause or reason but any kind of obsession, especially concerning identity and appearence is unhealthy in my opinion.
>>681843858
Federal. On a state scale, most of them list 16.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_the_United_States
>>681844075
thats cool but did you see these gifs?
>>681842818
>>681842862
if you open them both up it makes a funnies
>>681843836
That's pretty much exactly how I feel, but everyone seems to be in one of two categories.
Either full on "burn the tranny" mode or bend over backwards to accommodate their feelings.
Why can't I just treat them like everyone else, with dispassionate disinterest?
>>681838253
>Dr. McHugh further noted studies from Vanderbilt University and London’s Portman Clinic of children who had expressed transgender feelings but for whom, over time, 70%-80% “spontaneously lost those feelings.”
This is what concerns me. More than likely this kid and others like him are going to wake up one day and realize they got over whatever phase they were going for. Then as an adult male they are going to have to live with tits and a shriveled dick or lack of one if they get surgery. I can't imagine the misery that would bring. Why don't the parents give the kids a chance to grow out of it?
>>681841804
>no way of correcting the brain wiring
are you realllyyy this retarded
>>681843928
>>681844138
I understand why you have rules against males using female toilet, but thats hardcore
>>681842010
this
>>681843020
Being doesnt necessarily need a label. Kids dont label things as we do. Even when they learn words and concepts their perception of the world (including the self) is much more fluid than ours. If a kid says he is a she or she is a he then that means he or she is discovering and exploring the concept of identity, not that he or she made a huge life decision that is irreversable. Taking this further and having kids go through sex change surgery because of this "decision" is just grossly irresponsible.
guys you should really look at those gifs
>>681842010
males can start lactating with the right medicaments
>>681842535
give me a sec ill try to find it again
>>681843836
Narrow definition?
I think you have been too much on tumblr, last time i checked 99.7% of people identify as their correct and given sex, and don't walk around in dresses like you.
To remit my point; if we had two theoretical camps, set in the stone age, one made out of people like you, and one made out of people like me, your camp would die and mine would survive.
http://youtu.be/jwXQRJHeZyU
>>681844455
im all for that but children man cmon thats plain wrong
>>681836510
this word. I like it
>>681841804
>hormone therapy should be put in at an as early stage as possible before puberty further pushes the body in the "wrong" direction
You dont think hormone therapy at an early age, even before puberty, will push both body and mind in terribly wrong and unforseen directions? Do you even know what hormone therapy is and how little we really know about the action of hormones?
>>681842010
Sex =/= gender
guys please tell me that this is just some kind of bad joke....
>>681845284
i cant find it but the page named ''God'' also posted it and he keeps posting bullshit misinformation about trump too lately
>>681844303
Sweet, thanks scrub
>>681846317
this is actually the reason i made the thread i wanted someone to tell me its fake or something its terrible
>>681831487
>How about making it illegal for fucking minors to change sex you fucking retards fuck
They need their legal guardians consent too, you mongoloid.
>>681846541
litteraly what?
it should be illegal even with parents consent you fuck
>>681846422
http://www.huffingtonpost.de/2016/04/29/corey-maison-bild-transge_n_9809282.html
i found this
So anyways thread will die but there was actually people in this thread saying that changing sex will help a child
>Make it illegal to change sex at all
>Make it illegal to be openly trans
Problem fucking solved.
>>681846420
yeah dude I've been waiting for the cat to stop going into the box for about 40 mins now. this is some great shit honestly
Kill all faggots, dykes and trannies.
Problem solved and living garbage taken out.
>>681847395
this
>>681831487
But it is illegal. Where do you live?
This whole gender shit is retarded. You're either male or female. No reason to complicate things.
>>681842818
>>681842862
guys before thread dies you NEED to see these gifs right now
>>681847263
you are fucking idiot. waste of oxygen
>>681847894
yes ok mister trap but daily remember that you are a male and always will be
>>681847894
>you are fucking idiot
>are fucking
>idiot
>>681831487
Well, I think we should start by banning the use of makeup on fucking ten year olds, I mean look at him! He looks like a fucking cosmopolitan cover!
well all in all, there was a lot of post
Anyway ye, i still didnt see any proof as why this should be considered a good thing to change a child from boy to girl and vice-versa
Only "blablablablablabla accept blablab PC,, accept accept..",, i dont even care,, its just nothing...
There were some pretty nice examples, like if a man thinks his arms are the reincarnations of the devil , then i guess they should chop them off right? -- again.. "blablabla, tottaly different" suuure suuure,
and that guy who lost his girl Friend cause she become obsessed with that shit...
why? why it was that important, when nothing even change basically? was she soo bored, she didnt find anything better to do? i mean really, someone getting obsessed over this i would say i borderline retarded and should get medical help
i mean really? want to live with that? i guess i dont care, BUT THEN WHY MAKE A POST [i mean on facebook] why? then just do it without media attention, i bet no one would give a fuck if he wont go around telling everyone how he/she is transgender.
As i see ye, i would not let children undergo this thing, rather take them away from the parents if they proven to have bad influence on the kid [see i didnt use he or she..] and consider this a mental disorder..
and ye no matter what, IT never really become the other gender,, more like a cosmetic surgery really,, not that much of gender change
like he said... or she
>>681848024
