Can /b/ code?
Which languages?
Got any projects to show off?
Also general IT thread.
I can write killer batch commands. And Hello world in java, HTML, and pearl.
But then I grew out of my computer phase and got a girlfriend.
>>681469255
yes
html
C:\Users\Admin\Desktop\index.html
In order of knowledge:
C++, HTML/JS/CSS, Assembly, RobotC (doesn't really count imo), Python, Swift, Java.
No. I'm a faggot who like gay porn and popcorn. The only two 'orns' I like ate those
Your basic web pack, HTML/CSS/JS
PHP/Node.js
Java/Android
Python
Currently working on a project that calculates how much of a faggot OP is. Can't get it to work tho, the results are always out of chart.
>>681469703
>are not ate
my mistake
C
C++
C#
Java
Python
Assembly
>>681469593
>>681469402
>>681469362
>HTML
>Language
It's a format. It's not Turing level 3 complete
>>681469593
>>681469255
>>681469362
What are the benefits of learning code ?
>>681470018
>But then I grew out of my computer phase and got a girlfriend.
>>681469255
Java
C
C++
Javascript
Ruby
Python
Visual Basic (unfortunately)
PHP
A little assembly
>>681470193
Being able to create something out of nothing is pretty amazing. Also possibility to find a good paying job. Not to mention a good passtime and way to keep your mind sharp.
>>681469255
I can
C++
android
Wkk
ant language V.28
NASA planet destruction code
HTML
Python
I am currently working in amphibial code research for a GG6H project. Most of it in this planet.
I speak sex, I don't know about you tards
>>681469362
chicks with dicks dont count as GIRLfriends, faggot
>>681470382
did you go to college? if so what major
>>681470199
>computer phase
K. I'll just take that.
>got a girlfriend
>implying this is mutually exclusive to a "computer phase"
Take a class on "propositional logic" or statistics, and you might figure out what mutual exclusion is and perhaps finally get out of your
>unemployment phase
>>681470440
*cough* virgin *cough*
>>681470254
college? what major?
>>681470440
Once again
>But then I grew out of my computer phase and got a girlfriend.
Python, Python and nothin but Python
Also use a lot of Kali Linux.. for reasons, not a lang tho
>> can hax da intarwebz
>> also hack in yo mamas pc get them sweet nudes of that phat pussy
>>681470521
Ohio State, Computer Science & Engineering
How the fuck do I think of projects to do? I have coded a lot of things but I can never think of any projects to start or work on. I'm familiar with mainly C++, Java and Python. Any tips or recommendations? (I've made some games, web crawlers and stuff, but that's all I've really thought of doing or wanted/needed to do)
>>681470429
Not your business.
And stop being a faggot, I could show your IP to the lizzards and the would know what to do with you.
Ask for clemence, you, b/tard
C#
PHP
HTML/CSS/Jc
Python (basc)
SQL
>>681470193
Good job and money
>>681470254
Ah, forgot, I know SQL as well
C/C++/Java/Python/x86 assembly
I'm an ECE student and I'm really interested in the theoretical aspects of CS including algorithms and like competitive programming. But I just can't make anything which is 'useful' irl. I mean, I can't make a decent website, or any app. Any recommendations? I've tried taking android/HTML courses online but always abandon them in between, those courses are just too boring. Wat do?
>>681470691
filedropper. c0m / the-programmers-idea-ebook
You're welcome.
Realistically is it possible to get good enough to make a mobile app and simple programs by learning a language at home?
I am using codeacademy, any suggestions?
>>681470671
ever did tracking and recognition with C++ in openCV? I'm trying to get it to learn the difference between a cat and a dog
>>681470888
Go to CodeAcademy website and learn.
>>681470893
yes if you're willing to.
check out TheNewBoston on YouTube they have a shitload of good vids on the matter.
but learn basic html/css/js and use PhoneGap to build your very first app. Java might be a lil bit too hard at first
>>681469255
Depends on a lot of stuff.
If you just want to learn how to do stuff properly: Ruby
If you want to do front-end kind of stuff: JavaScript
If you want to do it for money/career stuff in corporate: C# or Java
If you're interested in lower level stuff: C/C++
If you want to be a sysadmin: Perl/Python
Database stuff: SQL
Ruby is one of my favs, day job requires C# & JavaScript
>>681469255
code fag here: -
ASM
C++
C#
VB
Java
Python
PHP
As well as all the:
Html/JavaScript/Css/xml/json all variants
20+ years of coding..
I learned basic on a trs-80
logo on the c64
pascal was too hard
now I google
>> learn basics of hacking
>> hack into a pc on campus
>> massive amounts of hardcore gay porn, scat, tranny shit
>> never breach another pc again
>>681470893
Yes, but unless you actually read some proper books on patterns and learn from others you'll always just be doing stuff for yourself.
Some good books here: http://www.codingdojo.com/blog/9-best-programming-books-read-right-now-want-distinguish/
>>681471236
I started with basic on a zx81
>>681470968
I've tried a lot of sites, codecademy, udacity, thenewboston, udemy. The actual programming courses (like Python) are nice but courses for things like app dev or HTML/CSS are just so boring.
>>681471216
>googled most common code languages.
Fortran 77
C
Python
Bash
>>681471511
So don't do HTML/CSS? Lowest paying jobs and most "proper" devs (whatever that means) look down on front-end stuff. Also, if you're not an artist/graphic design person, your front-ends will suck
remove eat code and sleep
>>681471626
You want my LinkedIn faggot? I was probably coding before you were born..
>>681471632
>see Fortran
>expected Haskell and Pascal down the list
>>681471626
>>681469255
Learning python atm
>>681469255
I only code in Brainfuck.
>>681470018
>hypertext markup language
Try again kid.
>>681469255
if i was going to write greasemonkey scripts which language would be most useful to learn
>>681471973
hello richard stallman
>>681469255
>eat
>code
>repeat
No wonder you CS nerds are fucking fat
>and gay
>>681472109
It's done in JavaScript
>>681472109
nevermind, javascript... i've been asking this question to anyone who says "coder" for a year and just googled it for the first time.
>>681469255
Node.JS, web idle game I m working on right now, can post link to github once finished if anyone interested.
>>681471973
ASM is not even in the list
>>681472262
go back to fapping to traps, unemployed faggot
>>681472264
how do i learn javascript? thanks for answering, btw.
>>681472174
wtf how did you know my name
>>681472289
That's because I don't do it for the day job.. I do that for fun. Do you even IDA?
>>681470691
What I usually do is to look at what program/app/website I use, and redo them from scratch in another language.
>>681471973
richard stallman you are a fucking liar sir.
$(document).on('ready', function() {
window.location.href = 'http://goatse.info';
});
>>681469362
>batch is for windows faggots
>you can't even spell Perl correctly
kill yourself
Just took a course in Python... Pretty bad at it but I have most of the fundamentals down. Moving on to C++ and Java next semester, hopefully I'll do better.
>>681469255
HTML
CSS
XML
and a bit of LaTeX
>>681472315
Depend if you want to do web js or backend js.
For frontend, there is a fuckload of tutorials, guide and books all over the net.
>>681472645
> I hack
the only skilled people ever are the ones that know C and/or Assembly
>>681472713
i wanna make scripts for greasemonkey... but i wanna go into it with understanding of the language it's done in first.
>>681472315
I have been learning Javascript for about a year now.
Got basics from CodeAcademy, then YouTube tutorials.
And from then on I started creating stuff and Googling my problems StackOverflow has got you covered.
Made 3 useful TamperMonkey scripts so far (Greasemonkey for Chrome), also all kinds of shit for websites/webapps.
Also check out jQuery, also a good thing to fiddle around with.
![faggottree-2[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/79p8Y2z.jpg "faggottree-2[1].jpg")
>>681472764
o cool so no tru scotsman then yeh? pic related
>>681472894
nachos gracias
>>681469255
pretty decent at people id say top 5 english in the world
>>681472764
>skilled
>Assembly and C
pick on LOL, these two languges are the fucking easiest lmao. I've been coding for 30+ years and literally everyone I have ever met who claims that 'C / ASM' is his first language is a fucking idiot.
It doesn't take much skill to code in a langugae which doesn't have complicated programming constructs like classes, generics, regular expressions or exceptions.
>>681473038
Oh, rook at me I am Erizabeth from Ros Angeres
>>681472866
If you wanna understand how shit is done on a computer, I d tell you to try to learn C.
You ll break some teeth and lose hair because of it, but you ll be forced to understand what s going on.
Afterward, switching to JS, Python, Ruby... is a walk in the park.
>>681472764
Assembly teaches you how computers really work. You have a 1 to 1 relationship between code and CPU operations. C and assembly are essential if you wana look at disassembly and reverse engineering. For fun or profit.
Pretty good at java and c++
also done some university courses in javascript, html and php
>>681470890
Thanks!
i was made to learn the basics of coding in my engineering college course , it was the soo soo boring the worst thing I'd ever done, anyone who wants to do that for a living or worst just for fun should an hero asap
>>681473333
Assembly is a huge pain the ass tho.
Had two semesters with assembly in college and I hated it.Sure,it gives you a lot of knowledge but the time spent debugging and fixing the stupid shit is just not worth it imo.
Also,nice quads.
>>681473687
You enjoy using that software to look at this website on your pc, on the internet all created by boring people like me so faggots like you can have better more interesting lives. and what do you do in return? Shit post banana's and while like a little bitch faggot on /b/. You go an hero you fucking user.
>Be me
>Graduate from college
>high honors, multiple majors, honorable discharged veteran
>mfwIcannotgetajob.jpg
>Two years of joblessness
>One year of working entry level lame job
>Find out about coding bootcamp
>get scholarship
>leave in August
>95% job placement
So I'll be learning more in a classroom. On my own I picked up:
HTML
HTML 5
CSS
Javascript
Python
Java
C
Personally I love it and hope it turns into a lucrative career.
I know some VB
>>681473955
lol yeah he probably builds bridges or lays fiber lines or something gay like that
>>681469255
Matlab, C, VBA, asm
>>681473955
Okay I'll repharse , I think anyone who want to do it for a living should be locked up and used as slaves , anyone who does it for fun for an hero.
>>681470193
Fat money boiii
>>681470597
kali is such a retarded linux distro, you can inb4 all you want, however your autism is shining through
>>681474331
Depends on what you like. Some people like furries, some like poop and pee pr0n.
Some people code for fun, some people troll on /b/. Whatevs.
>>681473766
>681472764
It is a huge pain in the ass, depends on your needs I guess. Some people can code high level languages and not care about how things actually work under the hood. But if you really understand how things work then you can start to do some really funky stuff. Hacking is a by-product of understanding how things work to the point you can fuck with them.
thanks
Maybe you should kill yourself.
Maybe some of us are autodidacts who enjoy facing unique challenges and puzzles that offer rewarding and lucrative solutions. Just because that makes no sense to you doesn't mean we all fail to appreciate it.
>>681474413
If you want money,become a lawyer or investment banker.
You can't survive in the industry if you're not interested in programming.
>>681470597
Pls don't DDos me bro
>>681474426
It's like, the pentesting distro.
>>681470691
Do some projects in Ruby and C#
>>681474584
WTF are you talking about. Those professions are so saturated that there's hardly jobs in them at all!
The average java developer starts at like 55k - 65k a year. In California they start making over $100k.
Remember, that's just to start.
>>681474628
lol script kiddie
>>681474554
Maybe you're just a self-absorbed teenager who's plugged into The Matrix and so out of touch with reality.
codefags should kill themselves
![enhanced-26459-1393520513-15[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/kfnIKP4.jpg "enhanced-26459-1393520513-15[1].jpg")
>>681474518
>people like furries, some like poop and pee
all of these are reasons to take them out back and shoot them
>>681474628
stop. no, please god no. If you knew anything about pen testing you'd know that arch is probably your best bet. I use it every day, you go from the ground up and if you need any tools rather than just having a skid repository already installed just pacman them once you actually know what you're doing. Wargames don't use most of the tools anyway its all ssh and popping boxes etc.
>>681474802
fuck beat me to it
>>681474811
Again, just because you lack the tools to appreciate it doesn't mean we're all pathetic like you.
I guess you missed the part where I said I was an honorably discharged army vet and college graduate.
>>681469255
as a Bethesda employee I will confidently say no, I cannot
>>681474802
>>681474902
Troll fail. Kali has been the standard in pentesting for a while now.
>>681474725
I am pretty sure the ones making over 100k spend a lot of time pogramming and learning new things everyday.
You can't be that good unless you genuinely enjoy coding.One shouldn't enter this field just for money.
>>681474518
Dude I'm not arguing on that point but it's just my opinion everyone has one, my opinion is an hero is most effective solution
>>681474958
Wow, looks like you really put that college degree to good use. You sit on a computer all day, jerking off to trap threads and lying about being in the military.
>>681475023
Unless you have your accreditation and are using it in industry(which i highly doubt you are), then no it isn't the best. Plus half of the tools on there are fucking useless. The pentesting company I did my year out of uni with when studying my degree called nsc1 all use their own distros.
>>681475106
Yeah, and that's what reveals how small minded you are.
"Here's my opinion: I don't like X and everyone who likes X is bad. I'm not arguing it."
Go ride your hoverboard to the bar, fucboi.
>>681474958
is that you, john?
10 PRINT "OP IS A FAG"
20 GOTO 10
RUN
>>681475062
Yeah, agree. If you do it for the money you'll always be shit. If you do it because it's fun, money becomes an added bonus.
op is colossal fag of epic proportions, because he can code
>>681475120
You're posting on the same forum you fucking buffoon.
>>681469362
>grew out of computer phase
>still browses /b/
>>681475358
Yeah, but I'm not claiming to be some accomplished individual.
>>681475221
>Unless you have your accreditation and are using it in industry
Argument from authority
>(which i highly doubt you are)
Passive aggressive bullshit
> The pentesting company I did my year out of uni with when studying my degree called nsc1 all use their own distros.
Anecdotal evidence.
Currently learning at university C++
Having a real struggle keeping up with Object Oriented Programming unit i'm doing, have to make some shitty zombie game within two weeks using only standard c++, fucking sucks.
Obviously there are people with other interests and opinions. But this is a code thread. If you don't have the tools to understand, go shitpost banana's instead of telling us to an hero because your tiny little mind cant fathom our kung fu
>>681475446
basically juxtaposed yourself into saying either you're a hypocrite or you're unaccomplished. well done you half wit,
>>681475446
Neither am I.
I'm just saying It doesn't make any sense for you to accuse me of being a teenager if I already fulfilled both of those commitments (which take years).
>>681475494
>master coder
>cannot into quoting
DIIIIIIIIIIIIIIVE
>>681475062
>I am pretty sure the ones making over 100k spend a lot of time pogramming and learning new things everyday.
That's every programmer. That's why it pays so much to start and so few people want to do it.
>>681475494
This.
Anon fails at trolling.
>>681470193
coding is fun
>>681469255
>C
>C++
>C# including Unity/Xamarin
>Java including J2EE and Android
>Javascript including Node
>Powershell
>Bash
>HLSL/GLS
And now for all the useless/niche crap :
>Perl
>Ruby
>JASS (WCIII language)
>Papyrus (Tes/Fallout language)
>Fortran
>Python
>Ada
>OCaml
>TI Basic
And finally some shit that plebs considers "coding" :
>Sql
>Html 5/Css
>Xaml
>VB
>Sysadmin stuff
I'm also quite experienced in 3D modelling, VR and AR, Video editing (including 360x180 stitching), encoding and streaming. Oh, and CAD which is handy to create 3D printed stuff.
I'm 23.
>>681475236
No.
>>681470893
yeah mate
>>681475768
Forgot X86/X64/GBA asm. + familiarity to C "bare metal" coding. (Arduino and such)
>>681475768
So you know like 3 useful languages
>>681470893
The only thing I'd say about Code Academy is that it's very limited, it holds your hand through all the assignments, and it gives you very little exposure.
It's a great place to start, but it's definitely not going to leave you with enough to make something good.
>>681475963
kek
>>681469743
Kek
>>681475963
And which one are they according to you mate ? :^)
The real money is not into making android apps you know.
>>681473687
well nobody likes practicing.
programming is pretty goddamn enjoyable if you're working on something cool.
coding since 2006, c++, c, bv, bf, lua, c#, php, sql, js
studying them was worth it, 12,700€/month
>>681475021
kek please let this be real
MSCE
>>681470718
Hey, hi this is todd,
>Is Clemence there ?
>Some faggot asked me to call.
>>681469255
I can read all of them. Write in almost all of them if they have wikis and shit. Don't do shit right now, but might make a game if I get bored.
>>681470893
Code academy is not good at all. It gives you the impression that coding is about following simple recipes all over again.
The best way to start coding is in my opinions games engine :
You have a project, you start simple, add more "brain" to your project and end up learning how to code.
Unity would be a great one to start given that C# is easier than C++ AND C# can be used (trough xamarin) for cross platform development.
But the core of learning how to code :
Have a project and do it. Think about how to solves YOUR problems. Copy and modify codes from existing projects (thats how I started when I could not even speak english).
Following exercises is like the OPPOSITE of how your brain should be wired to code.
>>681470382
>NASA planet destruction code
please be a big guy for me
>>681471415
I used to bull's-eye womp rats in my T-16 back home
>Not much bigger than 2 meters..
>>681476460
Code Academy is good to start if you're a total noob.
But otherwise I agree 100%.
This is the fifth year of my career and already making nearly $12,000/mo.
HTML
CSS/SCSS/SASS
jQuery
AngularJS
NodeJs
Bower
Grunt
Gulp
PHP/CodeIgniter
Currently learning c#, asp.net, and .net mvc.
>>681476567
watch you dont attract any Krayt dragons
>>681476648
nice joke man :)
>>681476648
So yeah, you know only one language.
:^)
>>681476460
i agree with this. it is the most efficient and FUN way to "learn" how to code.
however, you need to know atleast the basics to get started. so chugging through some tutorials is pretty much necessary otherwise you'll be completely lost when trying to make something.
i also agree with Unity being a good start for beginners. there's tons of resources on it.
>>681473993
>Goes to college and supposedly is excellent at it
>Jobless for 2 years
>Solution might be more school !
If you couldn't get a job with a previous course you aced, what makes you think a bootcamp for retards will make you get a job any better than level-entry ?
>Protip : there are no jobs in computing for beginners.
>You need experience to get a job
>You need a job to get experience
>Get ready to type a LOT of code before they even take you seriously
>>681473333
Quads of truth.
I know all that shit, too. Life is pretty sweet. Travel. Well paid. Went to college but degree is not relevant. I got into this game when cult of the dead cow/l0pht were big, and black hats were hired after hacking big companies. I built pcs for beer money, Lan parties with Duke Nukem/Red Alert, and read a fuck ton of old yellowed txt files I printed up from various sources. Over time you get good. And that's called experience. I got one cert but it's in networking and expired. Certs used to add $5k to your asking salary, but I don't know now.
Learn the skills relevant to your interests. Want to make games? Learn Lua or java/android, objective c or whatever apple is. Want to sys engineer? Learn python, bash, php, sql, javascript/node, c, perl. Network engineer? IP headers, c, protocols rfcs, etc
Basically you have to live and breath it, but first figure out what you want to do, set a goal.
>>681474554
>Autodidacts
>lucrative
Unless you're born in the 60's and had to read through BASIC manuals written in dos 1, no.
>Trained professionals are cheap enough that we need to resort of taking "self-learned computer persons",,,
>>681476846
And turned it into $12,000/mo. It's not always about how many languages you know, but how proficient you are with them and your overall understanding of information architecture and how to integrate effeciently with various development stacks.
Learning the other languages I listed will help me take my career to a new level by becoming a true full stack developer capable of writing complex and efficient back end data systems as well as front end web applications and single page applications.
I work for the white house and we use NORFLEKS
>>681476885
I just love reading these autistic strawman arguments that demonstrate no real understanding of the world around you or even the point I'm trying to convey. This is the new 4chan cancer. I really have the impression you're a teenager.
Please, tell me about all the college students that graduate and immediately get jobs in their fields. Last time I checked the average college graduate was over 60k in debt and living with their parents until they're 26.5 years old (Source: The Quarterlife Crisis - Dr. Meg Jay).
Also, a bootcamp isn't a school, and it's definitely not for retards. These guys want you to code for like 80 hours a week for like six months straight, you need to do an IQ test to get in, and they only have like 15 seats available for the thousands that apply. Also I'm on a scholarship. So the worst case scenario is that I just go back to the job I'm currently working now.
>Get ready to type a LOT of code before they even take you seriously
Thanks for the newsflash. What other wisdom do you have for us?
Even so, an entry level job in coding pays anywhere from 55k - 65k a year, which is a livable wage.
actually i need people who can code in java, sqs and php. i have literally no idea what im talking about but i only have one dev for our project and im in need of another one. if anyone is interested in helping me create an alternate image board please let me know via skype (username is: haywod_jablowme714). unfortunately im poor so i cant pay you so this is on a volunteer basis. if youre interested please let me know. thanks :)
>>681476955
Hah, so many memories :P
CotDC were my heroes
>>681477087
Not quite.
They don't teach you how to program in CS curriculums. Sure, they might have a few classes that go over the basics, but anyone working exclusively as a programmer has to wind up teaching themselves. They always have to be learning, coding, and challenging themselves, which is why people don't like doing it.
In that respect, programming is not like working a traditional IT job. There's no reliable college degree in programming.
>>681476955
nice dubs... not as good as my quads
>>681476955
I like coding a lot, i make games mostly and rendering engines. Reading through this thread, i feel guilty and stressed out over the things i don't know like PHP, SQL, Perl, IP headers, Assembly, C++. Are you saying it's okay to specialize?
Also how do you suggest i get an entry level job without a degree?
had so much fun with Back Orifice. Those were the days
>>681477904
Not sure if asian or anal sex joke.
>>681477476
youre a fucking faggotd. fuck off. how about you learn to code
This is my programming motto:
If I can't find it, I'll make it
If I can't make it, I'll learn how to make it
I don't particularly care for any language, I care about results. Of course I'll take the specifics about the language into account when making something, but generally I don't particularly care.
I generally prototype in python or javascript though, before switching to a real language.
>>681477476
Why would people work for free?
>>681477369
Wtf is a norfleks
>>681478112
i mean i was just asking people if they were interested in doing a project together. thats all.
>>681471236
I'm with you oldfag!
I remember my old Commodore 64 & my TRS-80 Model III. I was a teenager, and I thought making games in Basic was the shit! I even dabbled in machine language (so I could fuck with games, and basically cheat).
But then life happened. Girls, alcohol & drugs became more important. Working my ass off at wharehouse jobs, etc...
Now I'm 50, with two kids I'm raising by myself, 15 & 12, and they're just getting into programming. Ruby at CodeAcademy so far, but they're losing interest fast and want to try another language. Any /b/ros got any suggestions for them? They like artistic stuff, web design mostly right now, but they're young still. Where should they start?
>>681477971
unless you were pwning tards around 1998 you wouldn't know what is..
>>681478314
I was like 10 years old.
>>681477845
As long as you understand the basics, you can do any language/tech stack. If you like what you do and you're good at it, there will always be work.
I would look at picking up another language or two, though, just so that you know what others are doing.
>>681478168
Are you retarded?
>>681477369
Huh. I thought they would have stopped using that years ago.
What is the best way to practice coding offline? I have plenty of free time to learn, but limited internet access.
>>681469255
>languages
JS, PHP, C, VB, Python, Java, Haskell, C#, F#... and so on.
>project
pictureswap.org
Software engineer of 12 years here - but I can't show you anything because it's all been for the defense industry. Mostly C++, a little java and C#, and then ADA and a few other archaic or proprietary languages sprinkled here or there for good measure.
>>681469362
you have aids and your girlfriend has butthole aids
>>681469255
C/C++
Python 2 (3 is shit)
Java
Perl
PHP
Bash
Javascript
Ada
Racket
>>681477348
Doesn't change the fact that you only know one language :^)
>>681469255
kys nerd.
>>681478550
build something? You dont need to be online. Get a language reference downloaded and just code..
Femanon ere.
I've always been interested in learning how to program/cide , but I am not sure how to go about it. Can anyone recommend me to some kind of program to get me started?
>>681478550
Find a few tutorials online, download them, start running through them. Plenty to chose from. I recommend Java for starters, it's all free and open source, plus useful in most places.
>>681470401
you speak niggerfaggot
>>681478550
Books.
>>681478719
tits or gtfo
>>681478719
https://www.codecademy.com/learn/python
>>681478719
Codeacademy is not a bad place to start. Coursera has a cool python course.
>>681477369
Why the fuck would the white house use NORFLEKS? Getting past the security measures is like tic tac toe.
All so mainstream, i like exotic language, like erlang, haskell, common lisp, anyone else ?
>>681478719
Just find a Java tutorial online somewhere, download what it says you'll need to get started (probably Eclipse, a nice Integrated Development Environment - IDE) and get started with a basic "hello world" program. Go from there, follow what interests you, google is your friend.
>>681478719
"pay attention to me"
holy fuck i hope you get raped by a nigger and the police dont believe you
>>681478719
Coding requires logic and reason and the ability to rationally work out a solution to a problem. You're not equipped
http://programming-motherfucker.com/
C# usually. Also learning D (which is a great language btw, especially for those who don't like C++ but want to make native apps).
Moreover, I make addons for Garry's Mod, look here: https://scriptfodder.com/users/view/76561198017720556/scripts
>>681478848
Ooh, python for a starting language - good call.
>>681477845
If you don't specialize you are either the fucking tech genius that can do everything because he started coding at the same time he started reading, or just that guy that can't do anything right.
Specialize. Specialize twice if necessary. Most senior devs are one trick poney with a bit of know-how out of their specialization area. They know enough to understand what others seniors are doing, but they would need to learn first if they were to take their jobs.
I don't know many sysadmin that can write a single simple shader fragment.
>>681478731
>I recommend Java for starters
Starting with Java is a bad idea. Know a lot of people who started with Java and they were all ultra-confused and fucked up the simplest things.
Start at low level, with C or something.
Have a base in java, c#, javascript/jquery, asp.net, html/css, getting better everyday
>>681477369
kek
>>681478690
>>681478731
>>681478741
Thanks for the suggestions, I guess I'll be needing some good coding books. If anyone knows where to get some good coding ebooks for free, or any other useful resources, it'd be much appreciated.
>>681479136
Fair point - but if you can't handle Java, IMO, with all the wonderful documentation out there, you probably can't handle C with all the memory management you have to do yourself.
Python, mebbe.
>>681479136
Depends mate.
If your goal is solid foundation, yes, C is the best start. By far.
If your goal is to make some silly mobile app or piss code in a world corporate back office, then being a one trick poney that don't understand what he is really doing is fine (hence java/c# is fine)
>>681479136
Java is just a bad idea, jvm is a good technology and there are a bunch of libraries, but the language is just not good
>>681474628
It's like, the skiddy distro
>>681479278
If you're using a decent IDE it can help you figure out sime errors, so find any tutorial that is long and wordy and go forth.
>>681478859
I've been asking the same question for years.
I'm currently working on a HMV(VM)C framework for PHP 7, if anyone wants to check it: github.com/manulaiko/alexya
>>681479353
Nowdays C is just useful for embedded system.
Or if you want to create an OS, that's all.
>>681479418
Why is the language itself bad?
>>681478719
>has vagina
Nope you can't, gtfo.
Would you go to a company-trade school for 2 years to learn programming or would you self-teach yourself the stuff?
>>681477369
That's a muscle relaxer.
>>681479523
I'm talking about logic errors and plain brainfarts.
Maybe the schools they started learning at were bollocks, but just from my personal expirience introducing somebody who knows nothing about coding to concepts like classes and objects and OOS in general is a bad start.
C++, C#, Python, Java, Php, Html
Currently working on a mobile game with a beta due in a month or so.
>>681479729
In java, you don't choose your way of thinking, it's object-oriented.
for a hello world, you have to create a class.
That's not the case in python, ruby, C++, and all the other OO languages.
imo, if you can't choose your paradigm, and organized the code the way you like, it's not good.
>>681479906
If company is paying: most definitely. You're (kind of) assured of a job afterwards. Experience is the most important thing to making a career out of it, not training.
>>681469928
>>681469593
how'd you learn assembly? good book/website you'd recommend?
>>681469255
C++
Java
LUA
Python
>>681480112
Yeah. It's in germany. Basically, you get about 900 Euro/month as long you're in training. After that, you're are certified. It's a trade like any other here.
>>681480392
Yeah, definitely. You could learn by yourself, but finding a job with no experience and being self taught is hard.
Once you have 2 to 3 years' experience the world is you oyster.
>>681480516
Thank you so far. Two questions left I would really like to hear your opinion about,
1) Is there really no age limit to get into theIT/programming industry?
2) Would you suggest getting a University degree after that as well? Just for the paper to get eventually some chances climbing up the ladder.
>>681469255
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>>681480105
I see. Yeah, I don't like the "EVERYTHING HAS TO BE AN OBJECT! EVERYTHING ELSE IS WROOOONGGG!!!11" attitude either.
That said, I don't think it's that restrictive, unless you go completely overboard with OOS.
>>681480717
I hate oysters
>>681479349
Start with C. then add OOP with C++. Then finish with Java/C# and their virtual machine. Voilà, you know 90% of the concept in programming and have a view of the nearly full stack.
>>681480857
...I don't like you, anon.
But I respect you.
Continue with your conversation.
>>681480286
If you have to ask that question. You aren't ready
>>681472645
>>681480717
It gets harder as you get older, not sure about Germany. I often employ programmers over 40 if they're good. About 80% of programmers are under 35 (see StackOverflow survey).
It depends on what you want. A degree always helps, but it's not required. If you want to do it for the rest of your life, sure. Otherwise you could study something else (like management) to advance your career.
>>681479676
Or for fine tuning perfs on calculation when fortran is not practical enough. Granted, it's usually C++, but the actual perf parts are written in strict style C.
Also it makes student discover pointers, which most other languages hide.
And starting straight with C++ (oop) gives too much information at once.
A lot of Python
A lot of C
Do I need anything else?
>>681480286
You don't "learn assembly," you learn assembly for a certain chipset or hardware architecture.
It's not worth learning beyond understanding what assembly is and represents to higher-level languages or lower-level machine code, unless you're specifically looking to write for embedded devices.
>>681469255
Programming is programming. There are classes that teach common programming structures without touching on specific languages. The programmer picks the language according to what the application is supposed to do. This is not a fucking competitive sport and no one language is better than the rest, it should depend on what the program is supposed to do, fucktards.
>>681481640
Reverse engineering, cracking games, analysing malware or viruses. Writing the fastest smallest executable you can write, understanding compilers. Totally not worth it.
>>681478719
Hey bitch.
Why the fuck did you say you are a femanon ? Is it in any point RELEVANT to anything you are saying after ? No, it's fucking not.
If you truly want to learn how to code, you'd better lose that attitude. By saying that your body (WHICH IS IRRELEVANT FOR CODING) has boobs and vagina, you are centering the discussion on your boobs and vagina.
And not on the ACTUAL FUCKING TOPIC.
I don't need to know that you are a female. All other users are anonymous, gender irrelevant, grey nicknames on stackexchange/some github repo/other forums. And it works fine.
Why the fuck do you want to change that by STATING you are female ? Do you crave attention that much ?
show us your fucking TITS OR GTFO.
>>681470888
>ECE student
Line following robot bro! Or a cube that can self balance itself on its corner. Merge the hardware and the software into something cool.
Nobody will be motivated enough to keep coding if they "start with C, then C++, then Java". Just have fun with it jesus christ, same way you did.
Never, ever give advice that you haven't followed.
>>681482135
If someone were interested in those things, they'd already be doing them and not asking how to learn assembly.
Come on, stop being a dense faggot
>>681482950
I started with C by doing a command line tool to monte-carlo simulate battle between characters in Warhammer.
Then created my first 2D with Sdl.
Then did my first 3D in C++ ogre.
>>681470440
Stupid fuck stop eating all the bait
>>681475257
that's basic, Spectrum variant afaik
>>681483331
I didn't ask how to learn assembly faggot, I know it. And I am interested in those things, and I am doing them? utter fail..
>>681477348
spoken like a true bullshiter
i see bright future in management for you son
>>681470478
nice strawman
>>681484444
fucking checkd
fucking newfags!
C 89
C++ 11
x86 Asm
All other "languages" are unnessecary.
>>681482151
bitching on a bitch, you must be fem too
Did anybody study computer science and is working in the field right now?
How much do you earn and are you from a country thats not India or China?
>>681485425
>No HLSL
Have fun with console only mate.
>>681485425
And if you want to do a website?
In asm?
>>681485690
45k euros/year, junior job, France.
>>681485752
You could.
>>681485690
I finished design school, bro taught me programming
from Serbia working for Germans, front-end, 1500e/mo
>>681485752
Lol are you a complete newfag????
>>681485854
yuo could also kill yourself, you and everyone here would end up happier
>>681485733
SDL + SFML
Opengl 3
Software rendering
>>681485997
You did not study programming? Why did the company take you in favor of graduates?
>>681469255
mate feed kill repeat
>>681485798
Bachelor CS and 45k junior? decent...
>>681485690
I git a degree in comp science, it was for animation, but I am currently employed as a resident enginner at an auto plant in Mi, currently making $40/hour.
>>681485854
>>681486030
Sure you can, but you ll have a hell of a hard time for something that take 5min to do with the right tools.
Saying you only need C and ASM ever is like saying you only need a screwdriver for any mechanical work.
Sure, you can put a nail in a wall with it, but you ll most likely lose hours, finger, and bent the nail.
>>681469362
>pearl
You mean Perl?
>>681486329
Are you experienced or a beginner? 40$/hour is a lot for a beginner...
I can do C#, C++, Python, and a bit of Java. I can also 3D model, animate, and draw.
I haven't done any huge projects other than a few top down shooters, a tank game, some side scrollers, and currently figuring out how to make a fighting game.
>>681485733
>needing anything besides a console
>>681486533
So tell me you expert... How can I script a website in asm or C when the browser can only interprete html? :)
>>681486727
I wonder how he would have survived in a time without gpus...
Can code C++. Python, Java. and a little bit of HTML and SQL
>inb4 HTML isn't a programming language
>>681486734
>can only interprete html?
Pfffffffffhahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
>>681486956
SQL isn't a programming language... gotcha :D
just a little python nothing else since I had to take a python course last semester. I would be interested in learning more coding but there is just a lot of work from uni.
>>681487260
"there is just a lot of work from uni."
What do you study?
>>681487029
Stop laughing you authist and speak
My hazor friend enlisted me to learn python he wanted me to make a Web crawler that would sql inject sites and store data on if they were vulnerable or not sadly he died before I finished learning it
Html
Css
Python
Batch files?
I can read and understand most languages pretty well but I just dabble in it for fun
Currently thinking on installing a bat file on a friend's computer to make sex sounds when he clicks stuff on a random loop though
Also made a loop that will open a url 1000 times and task manager can't stop it
>>681487336
physics. I dont have that many courses but they are pretty hard and I have to repeat some stuff I didnt pass the first time.
>>681487500
Your friend died? Good - 1 pedophile less. Are you 12 or 14 years old?
>>681486734
Did I said I was a expert?
Also, you are just pointing at what I said, every job have it s tools, want to do web? You ll need to do html.
You can still make your own browser in asm that interpret your own format, but we go back to punching nails with screwdriver.
>>681477845
So, my best, best, best advice to you would to go into it security.
There will always be new software, always new bugs, and always a security risk. My man is in IT security and he laughs and smokes weed everyday, makes 200k. He said it's an industry that creates itself, there will always be a high level security risk that justifies his existence.
I'll tell you what worked for me, set up your own it business on a pc in your closet, program it, lock it down, secure it, and try to make money with it. Eventually you'll learn what you need to learn. Experience!
Then go to free meetups, on meetup.com, in the stuff you need to get better at. People there are always looking for newfriends at their job. If you know what your doing, they will come to YOU, but you gotta be out and mixing with them.
Social engineering is as big a part of getting a job as your skill. If people like you, you'll always have a job, bonus points if you know what you're doing.
Good luck and much success, anon.
>>681487386
>only HTML
>what is JavaScript, JScript, plaintext, image formats....
>>681488115
Also xml.
>>681477904
Fuck yeah, it was actually a good tool, better than Microsofts. Too bad there were malware versions of it.
>inception malware inside malware
Remember winnuke? That was good times.
>>681469255
is this OC? I mean the image.
>>681488115
js extends html
>>681478314
Kek. That was EXACTLY what it was. Pwning tards.
IIS was the fucking worst shit on the internet. So many keks pwning IIS.
Total kek
>>681486734
Total kek
>only interpret html
Total fucking kek
Lurk moar, newfriend
>>681488776
Yes we are talking about websites. Please build a website without ever using html or xml or something of the *ml. I would really like to see that
>>681469255
java, javascript and php pleb here. Made a tinder ripoff for highschoolers. Realised coding is not for me and I'd rather do something that's not computer related
>>681469255
I dabble in Perl, Python, Powershell, Batch, Bash and C#
>>681489204
it's possible you fegget, the first websites weren't written in html
it's just fucking hard and completely unnecessary now that we have html
Java
Javascript
Flash
C/C++
Visual Basic
PHP
QBasic
A Little batch
HTML
Some Java
Visual Basic (because High School thought it was better than Java for some reason)
XML (tiny ass bit)
Not many. Not out of grade 12 yet, but still 18 you fucks. Birthday is early in the year
C, Objective-C, C#, Swift, PHP, Java
webdev combo HTML/CSS/javascript/PHP (a bit)
after making a complete website though i got tired of webdev, learning C now, not sure about which projects im going to do though
I could hack everyone on this website if I wanted to. But I wont. I have been coding for over 25 years.
>>681490776
why tho?
>>681490863
Why not?
>>681490124
You are a fucking uneducated idiot...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML#Development
1990! ANY WEBSITES BEFORE 1990???? WITHOUT INTERNET?
>>681490776
k... So... How would you "hack" us, hm? :)
in4b "its a big secret"
>>681491011
oh look a fag that can use wikipedia
>>681491098
a magician never revaels his tricks
>>681491121
shall i send you a book about html or websites? Just give me your address cunt...
You just critisize everything?
>>681491215
except that magicians do not work with computers and usually get burned in a fire
>>681491224
fag
>>681491328
when the fuck did a magician ever get burned in a fire?
>>681491347
uneducated idiot... No arguments, just insults.
I see - your limited knowledge has reached an end.
>>681491433
around 1400 / 1500 :D
>>681491464
I dont argue with those who are of lower IQ than me
>>681491572
this is 2016 u idiot
>>681491619
Well you cannot prove that your IQ is higher than mine. And even if it would be higher - IQ != knowledge. You could be a homeless nigger in the jungle and have an IQ of 160.
Just give me more proof that you are uneducated...
>>681491682
I would call somebody an idiot who is living in the year 2016 and calling himself a magician... Just saying... :D
>>681491753
You are making yourself look bad. Just stop, you cannot compete with me. I have a far higher IQ thus am smarter.
