If your country goes to war
are you prepared to join the army and potentially die for your nation?
honest talk
Nah
>>681110619
Yes. I've got nothing else to fight for.
Honestly no.
This country of mine is like a dying animal. Its body is riddled with parasites and disease, it would be better to euthanize it than prolong the suffering.
>>681110619
I don't have loyalty like that towards my country
maybe if american wasn't shit tier
>>681110710
>>681111010
>>681110759
which countries you guys from?
>>681110619
I'm not ready, but I'd have to.
I've been waiting for a big war for a while, and I wouldn't want to be a hypocrite.
kek already joining the army
>>681111131
US.
>>681111010
Thats how I feel about this joint in short.
>>681110619
i rather become a communist rebel
>>681111131
Hungary.
I have nothing better to do with my life so yes. I live as a neet right now and I'm trying to join the Marines so I can eventually become a bullet sponge, and if I make it out I will definitely off myself.
>>681110619
I would expect no less of those around me so i will say that i would do the same
I would rather die defending my home than flee like a coward "refugee"
>>681110619
anyone who says no believes that they are actually worth something when they are just another bee in the hive.
I'd totally pick up a banner and die for a cause.
>>681110619
>play equality card
>landwhales serve as meat shields
>use bulldozer tactics with fat women
>win all wars
>>681110619
Not a chance in hell.
I don't feel very much national identity at all.
I'd sooner fight for the internet than I would for my country, as sad as it may sound.
Thankfully the Weed Man is in charge now and there's not a chance in hell he would get us involved in war, let alone try to bring conscription into the picture. He's hilarious and makes posting anywhere on /int/ and /pol/ pretty painful (muh flags) but at the very least he seems to avoid conflict very well.
>>681111131
Portugal
>>681111493
SIR! WE DECIDED NOT TO BUILD A TRENCH BUT INSTEAD USE THE CARCASSES OF THE LAND-WHALES TO FORM A WALL ALTHO THE STENCH IS UNBEARABLE SIR!
>>681110619
Already there :D
At least I won't be conscript scum on the front lines, but I probably will get a face full of ASCM or a sneaky torpedo to the shins and drown or burn.
only a massive faggot dies for a nation, a real human bean dies for their planet.
I hate my country but I am also not very protective of my life so i'd consider it, if the odds weren't too shitty.
>>681110619
Not particularly. I'm kind of a lazy cunt.
Yeah i'm down, AusFag here too. I plan on going into the Army, but i'm unsure of the roll i'd like. Most likely a Cavalryman/Driver
>>681111711
GROW A PAIR OF BALLS AND USE YOUR MEAGER EXCUSE FOR A NUTSACK TO COVER YOUR FUCKING NOSTRAILS AND GET ON THAT WALL YOU FUCKING MAGGOT
>>681110619
nosiree nope nope nope ima move to some cuckland and get buttsexed before i shoot sand jews in some backwater third world shitland
I live in sweden so no, I'm ashamed of my country at this point.
I'm already joining the military, I had nothing other skills and i don't particularly care about my own existence so I thought, fuck it why not.
Although i'm more or less giving my life for my paycheck.
>>681111986
SIR! YES SIR! RIGHT AWAY SIR! SIR! I FOUND A CHEESEBURGER IN THERE FAT FOLDS SIR!
>>681111493
Can you imagine WW3?
>conscription comes back
>SJW/Hipsters on the front lines
>BUT SARGE THIS TRENCH IS OFFENSIVE TO ME AS I IDENTIFY AS A SHOVEL. MY PEOPLE WERE ENSLAVED TO BUILD THIS TOOL OF WARFARE!
Fuck no, war is for faggots who can't talk about a problem and come to a compromise.
NANANANANANANA I HAVE MY FINGERS IN MY EARS I'M GONNA KILL YOU NANANANA
Been in for coming up on 13 years.
Been to both Iraq and Afghanistan.
> I love my job
>>681112055
SAVE THAT SHIT, PRIVATE. WE'RE SHORT ON RATIONS AND Y'ALL PRITTIES ARE GOING TO STAY IN THE FRONTLINE FOR A FEW JOLLY WEEKS.
>>681110619
no
my country is shit, full of brainwashed stupid people, politicans are morons without any morals. fuck that, i wouldn't die for those idiots
>>681112160
Seen/done some fucked up shit?
>>681110619
It depends entirely upon the casus belli.
>>681111477
Good, only an idiot would believe that you HAVE to join the army, Op said that the country goes to war, not given details if you country is invaded or if you are the mother fucker invading. You go die for the cause Anon, you wont be missed.
>>681110619
Absolutely, most are.
>>681110619
Hell no. What for? Dutchfag here. I wouldn't die for this country. Well, maybe for this county but not for the idiots running it who insists we go to war every time another country like Murrica decides to invade a random sandnigger country because of 'muh oil'. And after that, bring over a potential goat fucker terrorists. Fuck that. After selling out their own people fir fast profit and better political jobs, i won't go and die for those faggots. They can have this country. Won't be much left of it anyways at this rate.
>>681111971
Are you semi-intelligent or have the ability to learn well?
consider being a signalman. At least you will get some qualifications for the outside world, and you will be on a really good pay grade.
That or... I don't know what the specific catagory is, but basically air defence (radars / data links / defence) might be artillery command operator after looking at the website.
>implying anyone has a choice when their nation goes to a serious war
I think there are laws to get you drafted if you are able bodied
if its on home soil there wont be a choice
No im not joining the army
Im joining the navy
In fact in waiting for war so i can go in
Got a waiting period right now
>>681111779
finally a little sense in this fucking thread!
>>681112176
SIR! WE DISCOVERED THAT THE SAND NIGGERS THINK THE WALL IS MADE OF DEAD PIGS AND REFUSE TO ATTACK IT! SIR!
who wants to start a war with australia ?
but fuck it sure id go.
nothing better to do...
>>681112104
>I HAVE MY FINGERS IN MY EARS I'M GONNA KILL YOU
good luck with that one, faggot
>>681110619
I refuse to fight some honorless sand niggers in shitholestan. I have a lot of respect for the boys over seas, I dont think I could stay sane fighting those people. Give me a war with Russia and I'll join.
>>681110619
Sure, if the ANZACs did that what's my excuse?
>>681112498
GOOD JOB PRIVATE. AS A REWARD YOU WILL GET THE ORANGE FLAVOURED DRINK FROM DAVE'S MRE AND YOU GET TO LIVE ANOTHER DAY.
>>681112314
I know I won't be missed, but niether will you. That's the difference between us. Either you won't do it out of fear or belief that you are any better than the country you live in. Serving in war is the ultimate test, even if you do die.
>>681110619
I used to think there were things worth dying for, but now I think there are far more things worth living for.
>>681112611
SIR! THANK YOU! SIR!
No, I'll probably go to Switzerland
>>681112542
he was imitating the retarded murca faggots who metaphorically grow a dick larger than a tic tac by going to war
>>681112540
Japan had a good go at it but I doubt anyone will go one on one with Australia.
>>681110619
Yes, but I want to die now anyways.
>>681110619
nope. It would have to be some serious shit for me to get involved. And even then, i would be simply defending my family and myself. Fuck war, fuck fighting.
>>681112741
yeah exactly.
but i think australia would just join to help another country.
>>681112611
*Distant muffled cry of "Not me mre'sssss"*
>>681110619
With the leadership we have now? Nope, I'm more likely to revolt against the puppets controlled by the super-rich, which is what our nation devolved into for the most part.
>>681112254
I mean, yeah.
June 7, 2007 the FOB I was at got attacked. 9 people ended up dying and over 60 more injured. One of the rockets hit about 100 feet from where I was.
Other than that some random pop shots. Nothing else super crazy.
Some of our detainees would get ballsy every now and then and we had to put them back in their place.
>>681112741
Australia has the largest navy/airforce in the world, ofcoarse no one would.
>>681110619
fuck my country
ps: i live in that shithole called greece
>>681111493
I'm pretty sure social justice movements would fall apart, nobody would care about their petty issues in the face of a large scale war, they would just tell them to fuck back off to the factories and make more shells.
>>681112893
what? That is totally fucking wrong
>>681110619
Australia, war isnt what it used to be. I'm down for tactical squad based warfare.
80 years ago? where charging forth and hoping your country fired the most bullets first? fuck no fuck that. id have run from conscription for dayz.
>>681112860
We have in the past and will in the future (fuck look at the middle east)
>>681112893
>Australia has the largest navy/airforce in the world
thats not true is it
>>681110619
if the war comes to a point where i feel my home and my family are in danger, i will enlist immediately and go to war with nothing but a knife if i have to.
I won't die for my nation, but i will die for my family and friends.
>>681110619
Not fucking dying for a cucked country owned by Israel so they can make money selling weapons to both sides. I'd die for a country not owned by Jewish bankers, which doesn't exist
>>681112658
not implying i will be missed, fuck it dude you just get one life, it ain't like video games, ther are certain circumstances i would go to war, like being invaded and so, not because the fucking pig leaders need something from another country, like what is currently going on with the US.
>>681112893
they aren't even near the top wtf, not even in the top 20 i think.
>>681112429
>clean bedding
>hot meals
>hot showers (even if they are short)
>air conditioning (YMMV - good ole chillers)
>the fun of rough seas
its the right choice if you don't have a weak stomach.
If my government goes to war I suggest the "commander in chief" goes onto fight his own battles, and leave the rest of us out of it.
>>681112737
yeap, that was pretty accurate
>>681112893
>>681112995
Australias got 30k soliders and shit. tiny army. BUT they have extremely easily defendable coasts. You wouldnt bother with Australia because 90% of australia is inhospitable and not worth trekking and losing soliders.
We have the upper hand on our land something chronic.
>>681110619
Fuck my nation.
Fuck the human race.
Fuck the system.
Fuck the government.
Fuck being eurocuck.
Mudslimes are pouring in, this "nation" isn't even fighting it. At all.
>>681113125
are you saying your life fucking matters? With 8 billion people on the ball around you? You're life is as worthless as the bullets people are fucking shooting at eachother. It doesn't matter what you do, or how you do it, you will always die. Now how are you going to die? I'd prefer to die fighting alongside my countrymen and fighting for what I hope is a just cause.
im sure the next war will have nuclear weapons and the whole world will be fucked, so no point.
For a patch of dirt?
I think not.
>>681112408
Yeah, but i'd rather do a semi combat role first, enjoy my younger years, then move into something where i can settle down, maybe move through the ranks till i can no longer be in the army.
Idgaf what country I lived in I would go. AS long as I get a gun
>be in United States
>Syrian conflict explodes into WW3
>Russia, China, Iran vs NATO, SEATO Saudi Arabia, Israel, and the other half of BRICS.
>get draft deferrment b/c college
>drop classes and enlist anyway
>am fatass, but somehow pass physical
>le 8:30 mile
>make it through boot
>kept dreaming on how I would react when I come face-to-face with the Rooskies or Chinks.
>Deployed to Europe front
>prepareyouranusukraine.mp4
>stationed in Paris for all of war
>POGS
>mfw
Depends on why their going to war. I would if it were serious, like if someone was threatening to invade or something
>>681113315
Honestly I'd accept refugees in but only if we trained them up and sent them back to fight for their country. The idea is to fix the problem, not just move on and infest another country.
>>681113266
Australia would literally have to be bombed for 2 fucking weeks by U.S. or any big country and they would be totally worthless. You guys have like 2 fucking good cities, both located on shit military positions. You guys would be INSTA fucked.
No. I wouldn't care if i was dead. Let suicidal people go
>>681113157
If you do join the army you're more likely to be rear echelon, especially people who browse this site. I don't remember the statistic but its something like 5 rear echelon to every one front-line combatant, you'll still see combat if the enemy makes a big breakthrough though.
>>681110619
Too old, now. It's funny what age and a family will do to your psyche. When I was 20 I toured in Afghanistan and loved the thrill of it. Now I wouldn't want to go overseas. I'll still help train our grunts how to fight, though.
>>681113324
The next World War will, though I've got money on the everyone getting bored of this Middle East thing and just nuking it.
I've already joined the air force fam
>>681110619
USA here, yes if homeland was attacked by an actual army, ie HOMEFRONT guerilla warfare
not cus of my nation but my family and their families
>>681113320
My life matters to me, I value it because I want to, I care about it enough to not go die for no cause at all.
>>681113471
>Here's your citizenship
>Here's your rifle
>Go fight for your country, son
>>681113320
are you depressed or 12?
>>681113648
Why the fuck not?
>>681110619
If my country is invaded, I'll defend it.
But if we go to war in another country, I won't.
>>681113642
And guess what? You are going to die just like me or any other soldier. No difference at all. Just seems like you can't accept that and refuse to endanger your already dying self.
>>681113266
the only power australia really has is the commonwealth.
>>681113320
edgy, not awaiting the afterlife....inb4 even more edgy fedora comments about incorrect theories
DEUS VULT NIGGER
>>681113686
No, I'm just not retarded and understand that you WILL FUCKING DIE. No point in denying it.
If I got to kill some mudslimes I would be down.
Or kill anyone actually.
>>681113266
>Australias got 30k soliders
for a country that size? this cant be true right..wtf? what will you guys even do in an actual war?
a small city like singapore here already has 70k active and 900k reserve troops
>>681113754
>If my country is invaded, I'll defend it.
I think even pacifists have that stance if invaded by default, anon. I could be wrong.
>>681113508
Dirty, nasty POGs.
>>681113824
lol k christian fag. You of all people should embrace death because "hurr durr heaven."
>>681110619
No, i dont really understand to concept of nation. Is fact that bunch of people speak same language reason enough for pride? Doesnt feel like it.
>>681110619
no OP, we will just got nuke by the chinese anyways
was already in been to Helmand but next large war hell yeah im going back to be the first man to kill someone with a longbow in combat
pic related
>>681113266
cough cough naval or air powers ring any bells? shit isnt only ground invasions and even in WW2 Caen was naval gunned to shit until there was nothing, enjoy your coast while its not bambarded
>>681113768
Yeah yeah, you go die in the war, I'll have years to think about what i did and fix my conscious of not dying for no good reason at all.
>>681113784
if china(asia) moved in the pacific theatre they'd become atlantas and sink into the ocean.
theres literally not a move on the board that isnt a false flag.
>>681113320
I'd rather die later than sooner famalam. Pretty stupid to completely ignore some basic self preservation instincts.
I was born in Mexico. Currently a U.S. Citizen after 8 years of fighting for it and thinking that it would be my last days seeing my little sisters. I don't give a fuck about the racism that is going around, especially since Trump started running for president. My closest friends are Americans. And even though I was not wanted in this country, I still love the U.S., I've met the greatest people here, I see how much people go through on a daily basis, and I think that a majority of Americans don't appreciate their country as much as they should.
I will fight for the U.S.A.
This is my home now and I want to protect the people who have wished the worst on me and the people who wish the best on me. I want to protect our flag the most.
Nah. I don't want to be fodder for a government that gives no fucks about me. I'm also the only child of my family so I get a free pass for war I think.
>>681114004
so the question remains what individuals are likely to be causative of such
>Adolf Hitler is still alive.
>>681113750
It has happened before, it could work.
But that was a long fucking time ago.
Immigrants today are just entitled babies, riding the system.
also, allahu cuckbar
>>681113648
Hundreds of countries have done that before, what makes you suppose it wont work this time?
>>681113861
They actually have 60k soldiers on as a base with 50k reserves (active/standby).
>>681114069
and who benefits over the overs?
>not me.
>>681114008
Nice. Succumb to base instincts, that sure is the right way to go.
depends on the cause? is it strictly for the betterment and advancement of our nation? (aka national facism)? if so no, not at all.
If it's defensive, absolutely.
I think a more interesting question would be.. if your government violates your constitution, would you be willing to take up arms against it?
Almost died in Afghanistan. One of my first thoughts were, "I don't care enough about all this to die for it. People will talk about how I died for my country, but my family and friends won't care about that shit. They'll be sad as fuck that I'm dead... Forever.
>>681110619
yeah but mostly because i wouldnt mind death just would never an hero
no, im too fat and have drug habits
I would for fight for Europe against all the Muslim shitheads
>>681114004
Damn man, if those fuckers could move the country per se, I would be terrorized.
>>681113987
I'm sure you will, after the Nazis/Communist/Whatever regime rules over you or sends you to a camp. Or maybe you will think over it while fallout really gets to you. Wars are not fought for stupid reasons, despite what you devour from the media.
>>681113627
This. I'm getting too old for to think dying on another country's soil is heroic
i'm medically unfit even for sitting on my ass all day
>>681114279
Yeah, I saw it after posting.
>>681113842
Thank you for this refreshing point of view! We all die. Why rush someone else's demise or your own?
>>681114172
Yes it is. Just as nature intended.
>>681114327
retake northern africa
>>681114286
kek, question was about a war, and who would you be fighting then? Point about terrorism is excactly that it's not a war but that you don't know who you're fighting against and where they are you stupid fucking moron
>>681111110
One off a sick get
So close
>>681112540
This isn't our country anymore, we'd be fighting against most of our residents, all we are is immigrants now, smh at Abbott not stopping the boats...
>>681110619
man that's a powerful image. fuckin saved.
and no, i dont think i would. though depends on just how bad te muslims would have made the world. if i couldnt live comfortably i would happily wager my life for killing a few muslims.
>>681110619
I'm joining the Air Force but not to physically fight with enemies,but to attack their networks and gain intel to use against them. (Cyber Security) Also trying to work on decrypting. Also, it's been rough trying to find a civilian job after college and I'm in debt so it's either work a shitty job, deal drugs, or do the noble thing.
>>681114520
i´m on it
>>681111110
fuck! sorry bro
>>681111111
>>681114342
Again you suppose that the country is being invaded, if that is what you think I have already answered this before. Also have you read any history book? Most (if not all) wars are fought for money. The media you talk about is what spreads the idea of a war fought for "freedom". This has been going on for ages.
>>681114435
Because I don't want to die for no reason? The only thing that people will remember when you are just another fucking body is how you die. To say otherwise either means your famous or delusional. Also, if the cause is just, it might just be the only important thing you ever do. At this point, humans are ants, swarming over the planet. What do you remember from an ant? The way it sacrifices for the queen.
I know I'm saying some pretty "So deep bro" bullshit, but it's true.
>>681110619
Depends on the war. I am American so if it is a war for profit and imperialism, then fuck that. If it is a war to defend my life and family, then absolutely.
>>681114706
>prisoners thinking the island they were abandoned on is theirs
kek
>>681114468
And nature is always right huh? Horseshit, within 2000 years we will either be dead and gone or on a concrete planet.
>>681110619
No...
The only way I'm fighting for my country is if we get invaded in full force...I'm not gonna get involved in some random CIA shill war or "preemptive defense" bullshit. I'll defend my home against an invading force with my cinquedea.
>>681114813
Every war the U.S. has fought has either been under the premise of containing communism, defending alliances, or defending America itself. Keep trying to defend your cowardice though.
Sure, i wouldnt mind not living anyways :')
>>681114342
>>681114813
>"the media"
>one single entity that only talks about a thing from one single point of view ever
>>681114043
If only there were more like you. You give me hope for a better tomorrow.
>>681114850
>>681110619
Id join only if they werent cunts and actually allowed me to turn a profit by looting and pillaging. Fucking hate this nationalism shit and ra ra ra patriotism where I have to pay for somebody else to get rich.
>>681114889
hey man itll be relevent in a thousand years, okay?
>>681110619
Nigga I'm in the Marine Corps
Yeah I am
>>681110619
no way
>>681114912
i doubt it, real life isn't like the movies. men is too smart to allow such things to happen. just you thinking that a concrete planet = bad is proof enough. there are and will be people in power that think so as well.
>>681110619
no, nationalism is stupid. i will never join the army or take orders from the government. however i am well armed and well trained, and i will be part of my local citizen militia.. and in that context, i would and will fight to protect my community and my loved ones. but i will never take orders from government.. i will never join the army, i will never be shipped overseas to invade or occupy some country that poses no threat to my homeland, i will never be cannon fodder or commit murder for any government, period. as smedley butler, the most decorated us marine in history concluded "war is a racket" ..
>>681114912
2000? no maybe a couple hundred billion.
>>681115142
You do know that the media spreads ideas right? I never fucking said that the talk about one fucking thing!
>>681115085
Except the war in Iraq and Afghanistan those were over oil/bush Jr finishing what bush Sr had started.
>>681115325
the movies are not that far off. Overpopulation is real. China and India are already reshaping the very land around them to fit their population needs. All man needs to do is make something that can do artificial photosynthesis and oxygen and production and BAM, we have a metal and concrete planet.
>>681115648
Nice one, but bullshit. We have many allies in the region that requested U.S. join the conflict. We defended allies, whether that was our only reason remains to be seen.
>>681110619
>deployed without ir flag
>deployed with a unit that doesnt deploy
>hollywood photo
>>681115085
lol. paternalism. Anti-democratic sentiments.
If China ruled us and said it was for our own good, how do you think most would react?
For my current government? Hell no, they are the plague that is killing our country.
Depends. I'm a white capitalist from Sweden. As you probably understand, I'm a minority politically. Would I defend a country full of socialists and sandniggers? No. I would escape with my wealth.
But if Sweden changes, i.e deporting all arabs and accepting capitalism as a superior system then yes, I would fight.
>>681110619
"Every miserable fool who has nothing at all of which he can be proud, adopts as a last resource pride in the nation to which he belongs; he is ready and happy to defend all its faults and follies tooth and nail, thus reimbursing himself for his own inferiority."
- Schopenhauer
>>681115085
Kek, has to be bait, but ill fall. Why do you think the US spent so many resources and people on stopping communism? Just to save other countries from it? The simple act of the US becoming independent from England was so they can take control of their own economy. And of course, the US will never ever fight for oil, that's not like us.
>>681115085
korea, vietnam, desert storm, afghanistan, iraq, etc... endless.. go on wikipedia and look at the list of nearly constant conflicts the us government has been involved in since it's inception. us government has sadly become an empire, and is quickly becoming ever more tyrannical. ever read about what the us military did to native americans? sickening. if you're part of the us military, you are NOT the good guy, wake up.
>>681115776
The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence
>>681115533
and the emphasis in my sentence was clearly on the end "from a single point of view". the media is huge and consists of all kinds of people that more or less represent and spread every single idea there is.
>>681110619
>implying that politicians don't use soldiers as pawns for their powergames
>dying for Merkel, Obama or Putin
Hell, no. Soldiers think they're being patriotic. In truth, they're dumb pieces on a chessboard.
All of us are absolutely fucking worthless and unworthy of the world we live in now,
especially if it's what you would call a first world country. singing up for the military
is the least you can do to prove your worthiness of the lifestyle we have now. you
might not have built anything but at least you can stand for it, fight for it.
this thought has motivated me to join a branch of the armed forces.
>country under attack
>Im still alive, my family is fine thank you very much
>I have stuff to do here
>Not suicidal and no hero complex
Fuck war, fuck nationalism. You can die at my place if you want
I did 2 tours in Iraq in 2011-12
First tour shit my pants first time I saw an IED go off, but didn't really see much combat besides a few sand monkeys trying to blow us up, first kill was a young guy my age 18-19 ran at me with a grenade and a machete, blew his brains out then puked my guts up.
second tour I spent my 21st birthday in the middle of shitland in a pit I dug with ragheads spraying at me. Spent Christmas eve wrestling 2 goat fuckers off of me trying to cut my head off.
I'd gladly go back that shit fucked me up so bad I cant live a normal life anymore, at least if I die there I won't look like a bitch.
>>681115880
The same way anything feels when when someone else does something for its own good. If China ruled over us and were actively improving infrastructure and enforcing the law without tyranny, they are fine.
>>681116033
Go kill kids that are threatening your freedom
>>681115684
>>Overpopulation is real
Rising suicide rates and declining birth rates are also real too, yay!
>>681116131
economic freedom mind you
>>681115958
Vietnam and Korea were both containing communism. Desert storm, afghan and iraq were wars where an ally asked for assistance.
You are a joke.
>>681115982
actually i was trying to say that the media by no means favors anti war propaganda, but you are right it did you on a one side.
>>681116129
We clearly don't do that. We have prevented any democratic elections when people wanted self rule. Such was the case in Vietnam. Such was the case in Iran 1953. Such was the case in Chile.
If China ruled us, and most people wanted an autonomous democratic government, no one would appreciate that Chinese dictatorship.
>>681113443
>>prepareyouranusukraine.mp4
But ukraine wont join russian side.
>>681110619
I would fight for my country but not in the army.
I live in Sweden and i don't want to fight under a transgendered black homosexual who became an officer to diversify the army.
>>681116196
Problem is all suicides and declining birth rates are on the western side. Sandniggers are taking over. We are kill.
>>681116033
record the video of when you get fucked up, i would like to see it.
>>681115981
If any ally calls an ally for assistance, we can't reject it. That would totally remove any influcence America has all over the world. We were called into a war and thats that. They shouldn't invade Kuwait, Israel, etc.
fuck no
the UK has done nothing for me.
in other circumstances id fight for lols. but i still have stuff to live for, so no.
Lol no. I leave that job to those that are just too plain stupid to do anything else.
>>681111477
Anyone who says yes believes that they are actually worth something when they are just another beehive.
Fixed. Also your analogy is faulty since workers beehives share a common future (though their reproduction), whereas we only have our own. People, politicians, military or otherwise, are too incompetent and stupid for me to hand them my life to do with as they please.
>>681116196
We have gone from 6 billion to 7.1 billion in like 5 years. Now you are just trying to sound dumb.
>>681116336
Kek
as much as I love the thought of shooting up some sand niggers, I am unable to attend the army since I have flat feet (Australia).
>>681116372
Where were we when shit was going down everywhere else in the world and people called for our help? Did they just not have enough oil for our help?
>>681116446
All of humanity shares a common future, and anything you think is unique is not in any way. You are not a special butterfly. You are just another bee, sorry.
>>681110619
Nope. Don't have it in me to kill another man, and I hope I never will.
>>681110619
>implying I'm taking part is a farse jew war
Nigga you gotta be retarded if you think anything in the war is unplanned, you've been at war for years and you say "if" like some other war could start.
>>681115684
BAM is a long time, a lot of people in charge will come and go during that time. i dont think all of them will be so blind that they let a future come that most people don't want.
and even if they all would be greedy and stale they all can't just do whatever they want, there's people around them to consider and the public opinion to take into account if they want to stay in power.
just the fact that there are people actually reflecting over the future is enough for me to bet that the future is safe to come and it will be good. unless something big comes crashing into Earth killing us all before we get advanced enough to take care of it i have no doubt we will continue to exist for millions of years
>>681111730
>At least I won't be conscript scum
The armed forces showcasing their famed lack of intelligence.
Many of you tend to forget that you also fight for yourselves. If everyone thinks "fuck this country i go refuee" then everyone is kill, gg syriastyle
>>681116495
When did anyone call for our help in a military conflict and we did not assist? Mind you, they have to be an actual ally of the U.S. for us to even consider it.
>>681116369
believing that joining the armed the forces automatically means that you'll even
get to experience a real fire fight is ignorant. unfortunate i know quite a few people
who were cozied up in a little office here in the states with not a care in the world.
granted that's not the kind of choice i would make should i join.
>>681110619
>die for your nation
Which almost always means dying for the Jews. No thanks. The 'official' army is nothing but futile loss.
I don't think I would be even drafted (type 1 diabetic) but if my country was invaded I would do some insurgency shit.
>>681110619
As a passivist that would depend entirely on the situation. I would fear I would never have the full story of why I was killing people so would probably be a conscientious objector, but if it was an obvious threat, I would not hesitate to act in self defence and defence of others.
>>681116569
>most people don't want
Bullshit, barely anyone gives a shit about nature, just like barely anyone is an actual vegetarian. If the world moved into a technological renaissance we would leave green behind and turn this place into massive television.
>>681116104
that sounds pretty shitty, i bet you wish you never signed up for that bullshit. did it ever occur to you, to try and put yourself in the shoes of the guy you killed? what if your country was being invaded? wouldn't you try to defend your homeland against an invading / occupying foreign military, even becoming part of an insurgency, if that was the most effective means to do so? did those iraqi's ever pose a threat to the american homeland? as far as i see it, american soldiers in iraq were a hostile invading force, attacking a country that posed no threat to the US homeland. that makes the US the bad guys. go check out adam kokesh on youtube, he was a marine, in fallujah.. he has a pretty smart take on it all.
>>681116676
Does that mean you wont record it? =(
>>681110619
I dont feel any loyalty towards my country. I would give my life for my religion though.
>>681116659
East Timor pleaded with us for help when Indonesia was committing genocide (with the weapons we sold them, and continued to sell them, mind you)
A lot of /b/tards would love a war.
Go out like heroes doing a banzai charge, their lard would absorbe the enemy bullets.
A flood of fat fucks running against russian positions with ar15s.
>>681116874
Sandnigger detected
>>681111596
>one simple trick to keeping your population from rioting and rebelling
>jews hate it.
>>681116874
dude that's, even worse
I'd flip a coin and let lady luck decide.
She hasn't failed me yet.
>>681116539
Part of humanity are actively working to deny parts of humanity a future, it is called war. Nothing is shared a priori. Anything you think is unique is not in any way. You are not part of a special butterfly hive. You are just another drone in just another hive, sorry.
Also, take your stupid teenage level (i.e. about obvious "thoughts") condescension and shove it.
>>681110619
nope, might try profit for it somehow
>>681111493
>play equality
>play consecrate
gg
>>681116892
not an official alliance in any way. We only share good relations and same intentions. The united states are not world police, we only help our friends because they help us. Every recent war we have been in is us defending an ally.
>>681116805
well i won't convince you otherwise. both you and i will be long dead before either of us turns out to be right.
>681111111
I will run and hide
>>681111596
I understand why you feel that way canadabro.
Your country is basically a cold gay liberal version of America with hockey.
I would not fight for my nation It is Purley by look I was born into it and I hate the way we are ran the whole place is going to shit (UK) however I would fight for my family friends and child
>>681117013
Not in my eyes. I submit to God not to a human. I thought deus vult was popular on /b/, they also fight for their religion
>>681110619
War won't give me two GTX 980s.
I wouldn't want to die, so no.
>>681116844
... worry not i'll find a way to capture the moment i lose my ability to fuck
standing up just for you anon. remember this day, 4/25/16, i'll post
the pic and that date when it happens.
>>681110619
I'd defend my country, but anything above that are personal international Interests of poeople with far more power than me.
No, the united states sucks ass.
Can't even buy science glassware in texas without a license.
>>681117067
Ants fight. They are no different that us, and a singular ant is worthless. We are no different. Sorry special butterfly, but if you died now nobody would remember. Dying for a cause in war is the only thing you can do that will matter.
>>681116539
Ok but then what good does killing another man do if humanity shares a common future?
Also your whole argument is predicated on the idea that since someone isn't special then the best thing they can do for their society is fight. That maybe true for some, but other people are going to better affect society by just being good people in their local communities. Being a good parent, giving to charity, caring for the poor, all these things have small impacts on society at large.
>>681117304
You have brought hope to my heart anon, don't betray us.
Nope. As suicidal as I am, I wanna die on my own terms. Plus I'm not mentally or emotionally healthy for war. I'd fucking off myself cause of the drill sergeant.
>>681117575
Darwinism faggot
>>681117377
You are stuck in simple thoughts while trying to sound profound, sorry special cockroach but you are mediocre. Good luck with that, and with dying for your "cause" of course.
>>681117408
Killing another man that does not share your cause? Totally improving mans common future, atleast according to your cause that is. Much more important that giving to fucking charity.
>>681117684
I am mediocre, that is the point. I know that, do you?
>>681117575
Private Pile?
>>681117772
yep we know you are mediocre, we can notice it
>>681117377
I'd be dead so I don't think I'd care if I was remembered.
>>681116806
I regreted it immidiantly,but I was lost and scared for the future, didnt do so hot in school and wasn't finding a job, now i'm still of that and more with 500 big ones a month from the government. every time I close my eyes to sleep I see that face of the kid my age I killed, I think about what he was like, all the good / bad memories he had, what I would have done in situation... I don't give a shit about others the fuck goat ropers that sliced my chest and neck open, Im glad I stabbed and beat them to death and pissed on em, but that kid wont leave my head some times I see his face on young Muslims and just cry or freak out. sorry for this rambling lmao I never talk about it
>>681117240
But, god can like do whatever he wants, why would he need you?
>>681117240
you should start a thread asking if people would die for their god.
>>681117830
Rekt.
>>681110619
the wars of the last 50 years showed us: there is no right or good war. 1. that a war is necessary and worth for a particular reason is often very blurry. 2. sometimes a war has the exact opposite outcome (like war against terrorism and saddam hussein actually resulted in a more powerful terror organisation) 3. nation leaders misinterpret global politics with the next election in mind (like usa which fought several wars because they thought they have to free people from communism)
-> going to war for your country = often complete bullshit.
i wouldnt go to war for my country.
but i would defend it to death against another nation or the fucking sandniggers and their islamic bullshit.
now when i think about it.. i would even go to a war against muslims..
get the showers ready again!
>>681117830
kek
>>681117830
Yes, just like everyone else in this thread. Just like everyone else in the world. Ants that are indistinguishable from eachother from the outside. The only thing that actually makes an ant valuable is what it fights for. You fight for nothing though so yeah.
>>681117957
That's not a bad idea. Don't recall seeing that before.
I could very well be wrong with this place.
>>681110619
You subhuman baboon. You literal nigger.
How dare you speak, you swarthy jungle monkey. How dare you open your big lipped, rim encrusted, menthol cigarette smelling mouth?
You are human trash, Diego Tyrone LeShawn de Maradona. Universally despised, derided and mocked. Your nationality and skin tone offers no hope to the world that South America can ever prosper. Crawl back in to the Brazilian jungle you came out of, you literal orangutan.
I hope you decide to sail your grandfathers skip to the Falklands and rape some sheep, as is in the negroes nature. It would still be the whitest pussy you ever had. Give Nigel and Robert a chance for some target practice, your sole use to the world. Argentinians obsession with a few windswept islands in the Atlantic is hilarious but sad. Coincidentally its the only worthwhile contribution Argentina has made to the medical field. The MUH LAS MALVINAS sentiment in the average negro Argentinian is both an early warning sign of autism in children, and early on set Alzheimer's in adults.
Take your black hairy fingers off your keyboard, and never talk about the human species again, you mockery of our supposed shared ancestor.. No amount of olive oil and wheat flour slabbed on your face every morning will make you white. It's about as delusional of an idea as your daydreams of European heritage.
You nigger.
You make Bolivia look like a beacon of civilisation.
You are the Baltimore of South America.
Go fertilise the pampas with you and your families corpses, its the best you can hope for in life. For the first time in your life, nigger, you have a job making food for beings vastly superior to yourself. Uruguayan cattle. Coincidentally, it would be the first time an Argentinian "man" provided for a family.
Die, Diego. No one would miss you. Except for Australian Aboriginals, who now would have no one to make them look good.
>>681118056
do you like, like ants?
>>681110619
I would literally rather kill myself than fight for my country, or any other country, for that matter.
>1016 + 1000
>still being patriotic
lol wut
>>681117957
somebody start this thread..
>>681118056
Dat broken record. I think we all agree you should strive to die for someone's agenda, I mean for "a cause".
>>681118181
They work almost exactly like us. They war eachother like us, they expand like us, they enslave eachother. Perfect example.
>>681118230
And what do you do? Nothing? No purpose at all? What a fucking disgrace.
Already did. Oef 7 and oif 9.
yeah. im impulsive and i dont really think about consequences so i probably would.
>>681118393
WASTE of an epic get in my opinion.
>>681118190
can you get more gay?
ur a loser dude
>>681118273
Dont you realize by now that ants may not be the best comparison to humans...
>>681110619
You're not dying for your nation you're dying for a bunch of bankers
Do do the bidding of corrupt corporate politicians? Never in a million years. The only time I would fight for this country would be in a revolution against the oligarchy reigning over this country.
>>681110619
I'm not. Why would I ? I would go somewhere far from civilisation and have peaceful life and maybe wife and children.
>>681118313
>can't follow my orders
>must have not purpose
You sound like a soldier/drone alright. That is good. Even Epsilons are useful. We couldn't do without Epsilons.
>>681117684
Yeah you're right, making a concrete contribution to your community and bettering the quality of life is much worse off than killing over a cause with subjective validity. Conflict over this subjective cause totally wouldn't cause humanity to fragment and work against itself instead of towards a common good
>>681118506
Sorry, but no. But you can keep pretending you are different or superior though. Only thing we have over the ants are size and technology.
>>681118506
They're better then you think.
http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2015/10/most-worker-ants-are-slackers
if i truly believe the war is absolutely necessary, then i would. if i could go back in time and join the allies in ww2 against the nazis, hell yeah i would. become part of history and something great.
"If your country goes to war
are you prepared to join the army and potentially die for your nation?
I'm more than prepared to make the other guy die for his.
I was, but I've been pdqed due to medical reasons, so if there's a draft, I can't be pulled.
>>681110619
I can't, even though in all honesty the army would probably be the best possible career path for me. Actually had a recruiter turn me away while signing up for more info back in high school. He saw that I was missing a few fingers on my left (my hands basically a perfect bipod) and said that something like that would be auto disqualification. It kind of sucks, I'm good at following orders and a really good shot. In all honesty I'd be a good infantryman. Overall athleticism and impressive endurance.
>>681117891
sounds like a fairly healthy way to be processing it honestly. it's fucked up that they let young kids join the army at 18, before they're even old enough to drink. i don't think anyone should be allowed to be deployed until they are at least 25 years old.. the military takes advantage by recruiting out of high schools, and recruiting young and vulnerable minds.. young guys have no fucking idea what they're getting into, tehy mostly just see a chance to make some money, travel the world, shoot some guns.. and maybe pay for college.. doesn't work out quite that way tho does it. can't fault you for defending yourself from ppl trying to kill you once you're over there.. but it'd sure be a hell of a lot better not to go occupying other people's countries inthe first place, aye?
>>681118756
You didn't answer my question, just deflected it with le me-me arrows. You don't do anything important, and you know it, but won't accept it. You are a drone, just like me, even if you desperately try to lie to yourself that you aren't. The only difference between me and you, is that I would willingly sacrifice myself for the colony, while you would run in fear or belief that you are more important than that.
Sorry dude, the truth is tough and all that.
>>681118891
>join the allies in ww2 against the nazis
Sounds like you might have too much faith in your ability to determine "absolutely necessary" through the fog of propaganda.
>>681118465
I could quite easily be more gay, yes. Get it?
i am prepared to fight and die for a just cause, i will not die for something that i do not believe in
>>681118825
And the mental capacity to understand that if we are comparable to ants then we have a social responsibility to better our race as a whole.
>>681118700
mynigga i'll be raining down 7.62x51 when that day comes, covering you ... i got ur back
>>681119243
A mental capacity that regularly limits our progress with over-analyzation while lesser colony and pack animals don't hesitate to sacrifice for the betterment of their race as a whole.
>>681119101
>Sorry dude, the truth is tough and all that.
Funny you little drone boy keep saying truth is hard. The truth sets me free.
Also,you are funny exactly because you assume people have no purpose and do nothing when they don't get told where to go. It is the ultimate in mental slavery. I guess I should congratulate whoever your drill sergeant was.
>>681119370
kek then sorry bro but you're kinda part of the problem.
No need to get vert bro im just hashtag askin, y'know?
>>681110619
>Australia
>Army
kek
>>681118825
>>681118859
I didnt say ants are bad.. they're amazing creatures, no doubt.
I just have a problem with a guy coming along telling /b/ that ants are literally the same thing as humans but size and technology.
Really? Are you really that stoopid.?
So basically you are stating that ants have the same society and problems which comes with that society as humans.. just wow!
So war for religion, money, ideals,...?
Pffff... die in a fire anon.
>>681119458
Cool, issue with that is self sacrifice isn't always the best call. If every ant is a solider ant then the colony doesn't work.
>>681119458
>A mental capacity that regularly limits our progress with over-analyzation
[citation needed].
In the spirit of dialogue some examples would do.
>>681119458
And don't confuse sacrifice to better the pack or herd with a sacrifice to better the race. A wolf killing another wolf isn't always a net gain for Wolves.
>>681119524
The article I posted about most ants being slackers so being a more accurate metaphor for people was a joke mate.
It's also funny because it's true.
>>681119524
...but anon, everyone is mediocre right? Not just me right? Special flakes and stuff, right? Pls. respond.
>>681119499
Wow, you're independence surely makes you unique and important. I'm sure your amazing purpose is really bettering the society of mankind as a whole.
Sarcasm. You are still worthless and the same as everyone else.
>>681119676
Very true, but every ant is prepared to defend the colony.
>>681116351
>>on the western side
correct, so why condemn more of it to certain doom by sending it off to war?
>>sandniggers are taking over
but why? sandniggers have always existed, yet now all of a sudden they are a convenient threat that has popped up, because leaders and countrymen have weakened their borders.
once a country weakens its borders, those in power can make a crisis rise to the surface and make it seem like it's occurred for entirely different reasons than the real ones, allowing them the disguise needed to become fascist.
it always starts at the borders. there will always conveniently be an enemy ready to cross them, so ask yourself? what has changed? what's the real reason you're being sent to war?
>>we are kill
well with that attitude...
the only threat I'm seeing is the peak oil model by M. King Hubbert.
do I think this is all a reaction to that? yes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vgcYBwyw28
If ´my country was being attacked, sure.
If we were invading, no.
>>681110619
Fuck no not my war.
If someone invades me its another story
>>681119898
>can't handle the truth
Sure soldier boy, you are just as important as everyone else. You are equally strong and smart. Everyone else is just as stupid. You are great ans special because you will sacrifice for the "hive". Everyone is behind you because we are one.
I really wonder who did the hack-job on your brain.
>>681119890
i am not that guy who argued about the "being-mediocre" thingy... i just wanted to stop this shitty comparison between ants and humans.. this is a whole other fucking organizm with entirely different values... sooo....
>>681116460
>>Now you are just trying to sound dumb
How?
I only stated other things that are also occurring. I never denied the original point raised previously.
Tell me anon, what do you think would be a noble solution to overpopulation? What would be your long term plan for that?
>>681119981
But humans have differing ideas on the best way to defend the colony. Some would say it's better to die defending the colony, others would say it's better to survive since a colony can't exist without colony members.
I would willingly kill every IS shit sand goat shagers then boil their remains in pigs blood.
>>681110619
>be me
>hate my country [tax, corruption, niggers, mafia, gays, jewz...]
>if Russia invades my nation, I'll join Russian army to fight
