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Why do people think its selfish for one to kill themselves? Arent they the selfish ones that tell them what to do with their life?
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If you don't have children or dependants then by all means kill yourself.
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Because the fucks that think it's selfish are too pussy to do it themselves.
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>>680374657
Dependants as in?
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>>680374423
Suicide is always an option.
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>>680374730
people depending on you?
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>>680374818
This somewhat
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>>680374678
Naaaahhhhh
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Everyone is selfish. That's natural. It is a selfish act, though because you have responsibilities, and you won't be doing shit if you're dead. You're just trying to escape personal responsibility of some kind.
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>>680374818
>>680374965
>>680375031
Another One
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>>680374423
Because you leave behind family, friends, and make people pay for your funeral because you are a weak bitch.
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>>680374423
It's the most cowardest (that isn't a word I know bitches) move you can pull when you're in a tough situation. It's like cheating your way out of problems which is a pussy move. That's why it's selfish.
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>>680374423
>people think its selfish for one to kill themselves
they arent talking about being selfish only to them but to everyone else related to that person, the suicider (?) is generally only doing it for himself.
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>>680374818
I meant as in you mean friends, parents etc?
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>>680375216
...
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>>680375031
So what? How is that any of their problem?
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>>680375216
anyone that depends on you to live
is that hard
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because most people who want to kill themselves have exagerated the situation in their minds.
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>>680375193
Also, you're not even thinking about the ones around you and how it'll effect them emotionally. You could possibly drive them into depression and next thing you know, they take their own lives cause of you. Can set off a chain reaction which is fucked up. Again, a selfish act.
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>>680375278
Thanks that answered all my questions.
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>>680374818
>>680375031
>>680375189
>>680375203
>>680375373
This
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>>680375356
No one depends on me financially so... i guess no one.
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>>680375415
your questions are kinda stupid though
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>>680375203
So? Its his life. Its kinda dumb for people to tell him what to do with his own life for their sake.
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whether your parents were there for you or not, still someone had to raise you, teach you, feed you and pay for all of it. For you to reach maturation and then just end your life would be a waist.
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>>680375576
Then dont answer them?
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>>680375523
Do you have a mother who isnt a cunt?
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>>680375674
still selfish, which is the point of the thread
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>>680375317
It's not my fucking problem, but it's still selfish as fuck. It's like if you have debts and you don't pay them, I'm not harmed because I haven't lent you a fucking thing, but it is still selfish of you to do that.
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>>680375762
I'm pretty sure he didn't.
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>>680375953
why should you care about what they think if you're dead?
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>>680375762
>>680375953

i did but there
>>680375356
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>>680375373
Would it matter? Ill be dead. Why should that concern me when no one cares about me now? Boo hoo it will effect them emotionally. When my grandfather died (he was loved by a lot of people) he was forgotten in less than a month. So what now people arent supposed to die because someones feelings will get hurt? What difference does it make if i kill myself or die of natural causes?
Id rather kill myself and die peacefully now knowing someone would cry at my funeral, than live this life and drift away from everyone i love and for them to forget me and id feel like i never existed.
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>>680376195
youre too pessimistic
you never know how bright future is
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>>680376132
Do you even understand what "selfish" means? Go learn English. Suicide is probably one of the most selfish acts possible. It's all about the individual. Nevermind all the people who believed in you, who helped you, lent you money, fed you, clothed you, love you, You don't carem you're like "Fuck that, I'm out"

Selfish as fuck
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>>680375763
Yeah but shes getting tired of my shit slowly and i dont blame her.
I have a 29 year old kissless virgin brother who only stays alive for my mother. Id rather die than end up miserable like him on that age.
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>>680376195
K but killing yourself is not like a normal death. That's what I'm trying to get at. If an old guy dies, yea he might be forgettable but we all seen it coming. To take your own life cause you feel like shit is just a pussy move. Even though you're dead and you prolly won't give a shit, SOMEONE is always effected from it.
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>>680376340
Mine isnt. Im not pessimistic for no reason.
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>>680376512
how old are you
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>>680376195
Write a will and tell your family members not to waste money on a funeral for you. Just get cremated and have your ashes scattered in the ocean.
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>>680376411
What if i payed them money? Or if i dont have anyone that cares about me?
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>>680376659
im telling you, you never know
and so what if it isnt, you live once, do something while at it, why quit youre maybe one chance at being at all
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>>680376731
isnt that illegal somehow
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>>680374423
I don't think you understand the word "selfish"...
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>>680376560
Im sorry im at that point of my life where i really dont care anymore. Im not gonna force myself to live just for my mother.
>>680376731
Thats my plan. Funerals are too expensive anyways. But my parents are against cremating sadly.
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>>680376884
Not illegal. We've done that to more than a few family members.
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>>680376970
Welp... Goodluck bro.
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>>680374423
just do it faggot. stop looking for reassurance and do it. if you really didn't care about your life why would you care what people think of your decision. do it. do it. do it.
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>>680376943
Haha yeah i totally made a thread without knowing what im talking about.
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>>680376982
oh yea i just remembered thats when you want to throw a full body at sea
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>>680377073
This image is supposed to inspire people to live on and never give up.
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>>680376970
see>>680376787
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>>680376772
lol. dude, I'm done, I'm not sure if you're a troll or what you want to hear. You sound hopeless. Lots of people are dead ends. My best advice for you is to stand up and be a man, take charge of your life, be your director and do something great. Fuck killing yourself over nothing, that's some millennial woe is me meme shit.
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>>680377069
Thanks man.
>>680377073
Fuck outta here with that stale meme. Im not looking for reassurances, im just curious why people think that since i never got it.
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>>680377291
you tell your mom she sucks at having kids
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>>680377286
Millennials are not cut out for this world. It's sad, but necessary.
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>>680377286
Why would i troll this far? If i were id troll about something more interesting. I dont think i ever stated my reasons here but ok if you say so.
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>>680377512
Like she already doesnt know that.
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>>680377512
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>>680377695
what is it anon
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ITT:
>people pretending to give a shit about some random anon
>implying like it actually matters if some person dies
>acting like life has a meaning
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>>680375523
well you better not die because the goverment needs your sweet tax money
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>>680377905
is summer already started in elementary schools
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>>680374657
Yeah.. the only alternative is if you have like a million dollar life insurance policy that won't be rendered invalid by a suicide.

in that case, you should kill yourself and let your loved ones get all that sweet cash
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suicide doesn't take away the pain it gives to someone else usually the ones that have loved you
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>>680378033
Oh please. Youre the one whiteknighting here.
Op just kill yourself. No one will care when you die.
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>>680377905
life doesnt have a meaning per say. doesnt mean you cant enjoy and try to make the most of your only time here.
also being indifferent to other's pain and death isnt cool kid
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>>680378061
What if no one loves me?
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>>680378037
>Of you have like a million dollar life insurance policy that won't be rendered invalid by a suicide.

Make it look like it 'wasn't' a suicide.
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>>680378310
you cant know for sure
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>>680378310
What is love?
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>>680378232
please be careful around all those edges
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>>680374678
The fucks that think it's selfish are exploiting the ones who want to kill them selves.
ftfy
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>>680374423
I think it's a matter of weighing consequences. If you kill yourself you essentially ruin the lives of your family and loved ones... pretty much permanently. In killing yourself you're supposedly ending your own pain so the consequences to other people are much greater than what you get out of it.

I think it's like of you could lose your right hand or have everyone who loves you lose their hand.

The difference is when you kill yourself you don't have to deal with guilt. I don't know. Thoughts anyone?
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>>680377905
Life is literally all that matters. Helping other people's lives gives meaning. Go dull down that edge, buddy. You might cut yourself.
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>>680378795
What if you're a homeless person and you were adopted so no known family memebers, or any that care for that matter. No one knows you exist. Would still be selfish?
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>>680378310
Someone loves you.
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>>680378538
Call me edgy all you want but this is just stupid. Not sure if OP wanted attention or a discussion but i think suicidal people should just kill themselves. First because they're weak, and let's face it the world has enough of those. Second because they can't function like normal people. They wanna do it so badly? Then let them. I'm not gonna give inspirational speeches to someone i barely know anything about. Maybe they deserve it? Maybe no one will really miss them? Maybe it's for the better?
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>>680379131
Not if you're this >>680379023
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>>680379023
just lame and boring
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>>680378726
How?
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>>680379023
Honestly, no it wouldn't be. I have to admit that. I'm just saying for most people it is selfish.

It would still be sad, I think every life matters but honestly it would be impossible to deny that some lives don't have meaning to anyone else. Suicide makes me sad
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>>680378795
Shit that may be selfish but i'd rather be the one with the right hand than everyone i love with it and i without it to be pitied like a dog.
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>>680378986
Cant believe im reading this on /b/
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>>680379374
>it would be impossible to deny that some lives don't have meaning to anyone else

The cold hard truth.
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>>680379156
life is precious, dont try to live forever, but at least try enjoying the most of it? do what you like and give no fuck. youre alive once man, once, you dont know OP, maybe hes 10x the man you were, in this case I doubt it, but it couldve. i dont understand why you would deliberately end your one time on earth.
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>>680379552
>>680379374
Thanks for stating the obvious.
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>>680379676
Because i never asked to be here in the first place. I've hated life since i was a kid. Call me edgy but i believe some people weren't meant to be live.
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>>680378986
This so much
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>>680379914
then change your life and make it what you want it to be. i know youre gonna say yea its easy to say blah blah blah. then youre just not willing to be happy. when suicide is an actual option nothing should scare you right? youre gonna die. then why not try to have it better first. leave everything behind and try life again somewhere else. make it what you want it to be. theres so much people, places and opportunities in this world no one should have to live a life they hate really
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>>680380900
Ive done that 2 times til now.
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>>680380900
>want it to be
You really don't get it
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>>680380900
>theres so much people, places and opportunities in this world no one should have to live a life they hate really

Unless OP is a paraplegic or has AIDS, or some other illness that severely diminishes quality of life. Then suicide becomes a very valid option.
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>>680381328
you know nothing if you think your shit life is all there is in this world
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>>680382029
Have you ever been actually diagnosed with depression?
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>>680374423
The arguments about selfishness are moot. You can only live your life and only experience your own feelings. It should therefor but irrelevant what someone else thinks or feels about your decision to make your life easier. This isn't being a sociopath. If you feel guilt or love for someone else then you can burden yourself for others. But if you don't, then don't.
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>>680382230
oh is that the thing people with great happy lives randomly catch because thats how it works
i never have because i dont suck at life
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>>680380900
Hurr durr if you are depressed why don't you do something fun to not be depressed. IT'S THAT EASY.
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>>680382687
Then you wouldnt understand how it feels like and you obviously have no clue how it works.
>i never have because i dont suck at life
Not sure if b8. How can you possibly try to solve a problem you dont even understand. You make assumptions that i suck at life based on that? Get the fuck outta here with your stupid bullshit.
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>>680382782
This.
/thread
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>>680379541
It's true. I love this place but it's true.
>>680379552
Yeah but I don't think you're that.
>>680380546
Thank you.
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>>680382687
>>680383322
Half of the people that posted here for suicidal people to be happy have obviously never been through it.
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>>680383527
then maybe they know more about being happy
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>>680383527
I've been posting through this thread and have been through it. Honestly it's lucky I'm alive. I don't like to think about the fact that I almost tripped into the abyss.

It was a mistake. I may not love MY life but I love life itself. It's terrible that some people never get to feel that.

Fuck the human condition. Shitpost on /b/
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>>680383850
No shit. Whats your point?
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>>680384062
the same than yours
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>>680382782
You know what's great about this comment? This is one of the single hardest things for someone who is chemically depressed to shake.

It's partially true, yes, but the idea that you can shake it off ruins people.
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>>680383449
I'm adopted and don't know my family but I'm not homeless.
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>>680384177
That made no sense. Suicidal people are miserable and its really hard for them to be happy. You just said non suicidal know more about being happy. Like thanks for stating the obvious you dumbass.
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>>680384432
different anon but maybe you just just kill yourself you worthless sack of shit
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy_of_suicide
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>>680384658
Again, thanks for stating the obvious you cunt.
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>>680384759
lol
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>>680384658
>different anon
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>>680384658
How does that contribute to the discussion?
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>>680374423
So, you could do it, and it would be selfish for the reasons others have noted. Namely, and just to be pedantic: if you aren't doing it for someone else, then you are doing it for yourself, hence "self-ish". But yeah then there's all that collateral emotional damage, and that's a real thing even if you don't really give a fuck.
But there are less selfish ways to go out if you want to. People who die heroically are missed, and people are sad, but they are also remembered with some joy. For whatever reason, people are less likely to suicide as a direct result of someone else dying in a fashion that is deemed heroic or noble. I don't know why; dead heroes are just as dead as "dead suicidal selfish cowards" - but people are wierd.
So, if you want to exit but not be a selfish dick, shove a kid out of the way of a bus and get splattered by it. Or find some other way to leave that people can somehow find inspirational. You won't, because you're a chickenshit who just wants to pose for attention, but there you go.
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>>680384432
you said happy people dont know whats it like to be depressed but you guys also dont know how to be happy. we both know something the other doesnt
happiness doesnt just gracely fall on people. they work for it
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>>680384414
I don't know about that but I'm sure the people that adopted you love you. They raised you (I assume). Blood relation being more powerful is bullshit. You love who made you who you are. They raised you; they love you. You love them; they made you who you are.

Don't under value that.

Just my thoughts. I don't know if I means anything.
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>>680385129
I get the feeling you're indirectly trying to tell OP to become Batman.
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>>680385646
dubs and op does it
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>>680385450
You want problems? I have to calculate every reaction, every smile, every gesture and comment - I am constantly trying to figure out "what would a person with normal feels do or say in this situation?" -- just to blend in. This is less tiresome than people's reactions or having to explain not having any sort of natural emotional instincts.
People who fit in are the ones who get the jobs and the promotions and the mating opportunities, etc. So long as they keep fitting in. And so I slog through it.
I think I feel genuine sadness sometimes. But mostly I just hate you all, for making me play this endless, stupid game.
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>>680385567
>Blood relation being more powerful is bullshit.

Have to agree with you there.
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>>680386136
lol autism.
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>>680386136
i was talking about regular people, not retards
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>>680386600
kek
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>>680374730
Fuckingfaggot you talking about suicide but you don't know what dependent means? Morons never seize to amaze me 100% you'd never do it
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>>680386600
Funny guy! Actually, I blend pretty well, but I probably am pretty far up on the autism spectrum. I just find it funny and a little ironic to see what is essentially a false dichotomy between two groups emotionally challenging one another's ability to properly experience an emotion.
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>>680387295
Autism the post.
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Depressed pedo here.
Convince me of why it's selfish to kill myself? I'm homeless and have no friends or job, no one will miss me.
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>>680387295
no one is judging for your retardism, you dont need to (try to) compensate. but really, what?
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>>680387597
Give me the gun, I'll do it for you for free.
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>>680387597
Because every human has a duty to give more than they took; to do more than they were done for. If your being a pedo also means you have committed crimes against children, then you have even that much more to repay and give back to society than some of the rest of us.
Why are you trying to skimp out on the check now? Pay your dues!
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>>680374423
suicide isn't selfish. it's what normies say to make depressed people feel even more depressed.
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>>680388133
sometimes normies are right yknow
inb4 REEEEEEEEE
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>>680374423
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>>680388279
extremely rare
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>>680387916
OK, to break it down.
Some are saying, "NO U!" (don't know how to experience happiness.) "NO U!" (don't know how to experience depression). As if one of you being right will somehow negate the other one also being right, or vice versa (that's what a false dichotomy is: the mistaken notion that it can only be one or the other).
You don't see the irony or humor in these emotion-laden arguments shouting down one anothers' "obvious inability" to be good at emotion?
That shit is funny to me, yo.
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>>680386909
>seize
>calling other people morons
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>>680387989
fuck you, no one asked to be here

i don't owe anything to anyone
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>>680387938
I can't get a gun.
>>680387989
Sorry I was born but I don't think I should have to pay for it. Make my parents or something
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>>680388612
You ate the meal. You drank the wine. And you should pay your bill before you leave. It's the civilized thing to do. Otherwise, you're just another entitled, selfish cunt.
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>>680389042
How is suicide the same as stealing now? Please explain.
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>>680389042
>you're just another entitled, selfish cunt

Like most of /b/?
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>>680388582
i see it more as the happy trying to help, maybe badly? and the depressed just attacking the happy for not wanting to kill themselves and being naive. i mean it makes sense given the situations of both parties.
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>>680389308
imagine how much money was invested in you since you were born, or someone else if you had the shit childhood. when you kill yourself its like youre stealing that investment and disappearing with it isnt it. if you invest in a car you love and it disappears how are you gonna feel.
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>>680389907
If you buy a cheap car and treat it like crap, expect it to get fucked up really badly. I shouldn't have been bought in the first place, but that WASN'T MY CHOICE.
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>>680389907
>>680390355
Both are really good points.
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>>680390355
Bullshit. You have had choice from the very first miserable, ragged breath you sucked in between chattering blue gums.
Life is fragile. You fought to be here. You looked both ways before you crossed. You ran away from the scary dog. Don't pull this selective, retroactive amnesia bullshit NOW just because you're all butthurt today. You didn't kill yourself yesterday, or the day before, or ANY of those fucking days - that was all you, buddy. Choosing.
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>>680389907
>when you kill yourself its like youre stealing that investment and disappearing with it isnt it.

What kind of shitty investor feels so entitled to a return on investment? That the answer is to suck it up in misery?

Besides if you want to frame it like that, suicide is just cutting of losses rather than just letting the failing investment burn money forever. If this was a resource at a workplace, investing in that resource should have been ended by one of the parties ages ago.

I'm not a pro-suicide kind of guy, but all of the anti-suicide rationalizations in this vein are fundamentally flawed. They boil down to the idea someone owes society such a debt and no matter how small the debt is in the grand scheme of things or how miserable the debtor is, they should never be allowed to quit.

The more you try to agrue against suicide on those grounds, the more sociopathic the reasoning has to get.
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>>680390736
My point was I didn't choose to be born.
But I am currently choosing to live, yeah, and I'm aware I can choose to die. Dying just takes too much effort and I'm lazy and stupid.
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>>680390355
except youre not an actual car. you can drive and fix yourself on your own at some point in your life can you not
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>>680391081
>The more you try to agrue against suicide on those grounds, the more sociopathic the reasoning has to get.

Ohai! You must be new here! :3
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>>680391189
That's something I'm confused about. I don't want to win or succeed at stuff. I just don't feel like it, idk why.
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>>680391384
i am like you. i dont want to win life, you dont need to. you can live a great life just doing you.
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>>680391657
How? Have you gotten over depression?
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>>680386136

Just stop calculating your actions. I used to do the same, for years and years. I thought I had no feelings because I had repressed them so deeply, starting in early childhood. It's all in there bud, it just gets distorted and deranged in your unconscious because there is no ability to think "oh this feeling is irrational" when you don't even know that said feeling is even there. The longer you pretend that you have no feelings, you harder you will fall when you finally feel them.
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>>680391881
Have you tried those things they call drugs
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>>680391384
Here's my take: you aren't really all that suicidal. Oh, you fantasize about it, to be sure. But you won't go much further - stepping off that ledge just isn't in your future, because let's face it: that shit is scary and it will probably hurt like a bitch, however briefly.
So, what to do with all this depression and angst? Besides garnish sympathy in /b/ threads, I mean. My suggestion: get out of your head, and into someone else's. Not literally, they will lock you up if you get caught. But figuratively. Make an effort to get involved in how someone else is feeling. Commit a random act of kindness, but in a meaningful way - don't randomly buy some dude in an expensive suit his coffee, go mow some old lady's lawn and talk to her about her dead husband and how much she misses her kids now they've grown up and moved away.
It might sound like a total waste of time, and it might be. If it sucks too badly, you can always just throw yourself in front of a bus after.
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>>680392047
Different anon but yeah, weed helps.
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>>680392004
I take that back.. I read your comment too quickly. But I stand by, don't calculate what you say and do. What kinda things to you do or say to cause difficult reactions?

>>680386136
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>>680374423

How old are you? You seem young, mentioning your parents.
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>>680392063
Do people want a weird depressed pedo mowing their lawn?

Btw, I live in a city with mostly apartments. The people with lawns hire Mexican landscapers.

I like the idea, though. What other things could I do?
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>>680392897
are you doing it for free without raping my kids? cause i wouldnt be mad at all
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>>680374678
You first fucken hero.
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To avoid depression, keep yourself moving. Stagnation is a huge reason why some people get depressed and ultimately feel depressed. If you ain't moving, you ain't living. No paraplegics intended. Even paraplegics can be athletes and inspirational people. Those who have reached the point of suicide can also become an inspiration. Just stay moving, it's that easy. P.s. U mad?
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>>680392541
Example: I laugh at the wrong parts of the movie. I find the scenes that are meant to be sad absurdly funny, more so because I know people are actually taking them seriously and getting sad about them, so then the people who are bawling their eyes out look at me in horror, which I also find ridiculous, so vicious cycle and all that.

Other things too, but that is fairly indicative.
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>>680393191
$30 or I rape your kids
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>>680393949
$30 bucks or Mr. S&W extinguishes your life.
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Its selfish because somebody else might want to kill you. Your basically taking away that persons joy
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>>680393854
i am an MD i am here to diagnose: you have edges
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>>680375193
cowardly is the word you're looking for
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>>680392897
There are old people in every town, city, and village. Get yourself a notebook and a pen or pencil. Find yourself an old person. Ask them if they would mind telling you a little about their lives. Make up some bullshit reason, its for a school paper or you are an aspiring author or whatever. Hell you probably won't have to explain yourself, mostly they will just be delighted that someone wants to hear about them. People are like that.
What you do with it is up to you. Become an award winning author? Doodle while they talk and think its all a big waste of time? Jot down notes about lessons you can learn from their mistakes? Write really bad country western songs based on what they should have done? Think of awful things to tell them that will make them feel even worse about their shitty lives than they already do? You get to decide.
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>>680393854
Seems like you're trying too hard to be different. To set yourself apart from the crowd.
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>>680375678
Here! Here! A big, fat waist!
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>>680393854

People cry too easily. And some of those so called sad scenes are just too ridiculous to contain a chuckle. The average sensitive shits should spend five mins viewing footage from the real world, of defenseless woman and children being senselessly slaughter for the sake of some war over resources. Then maybe they wouldn't cry at some sappy scene in a movie.
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>>680394604
I'm too tired and lazy to even kill myself, I don't care enough about listening to old people. I don't feel like it.
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they're hypocrites. it's also selfish to say someone should stay alive and suffer just so you don't have to feel bad when they're gone
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>>680394608
On the contrary, I try very hard to be the same. I suppress the urge to giggle at the "sad, sad scene". I figure out who the hero and the villain is, and cheer appropriately when the right one socks the wrong one. I gaze meaningfully into eyes and nod when someone says something that is supposed to be deep and caring or insightful. And, I don't think I'm particularly terrible at doing so. I don't usually feel the feels, but I almost always act like everyone else who does. Unless they are also acting. In which case, this game is a lot weirder than I thought.
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>>680393854

But that doesn't sound so out of the ordinary. Just quit faking how you act around people so you can find yourself some real friends. I once rewinded a movie several times to watch a part where someone had his head unexpectedly blown mostly off with a shotgun. My sister and best friend were there and we all laughed about it together. It's not so weird. Just find the people who share your sense of humor, simple.
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>>680395563
I was under the impression that everyone did this. Either they do, or I'm just as fucked up as you are.
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>>680374423
It's not selfish, it cowardly
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>>680395503
You don't care enough, you don't feel like it - that's you still being all caught up in your own head, and basically selfish (that's where you came in, right?)

So, do it anyway. Once or twice. See if you can make yourself care.

Or don't, hell I don't care either way. Interlace your fingers behind your head, then slide down toward your neck and put your thumbs directly over your jugular. You'll know when you are pressing in the right place by the deep throbbing pulse. In this position, apply pressure until the world goes away.
As you wake up, decide whether you like that feeling of deadness more, or the feeling of aliveness more. Then pick one.
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My little brother killed himself Monday morning

He ruined us, his pain is gone, but its our pain now.

While he wasn't in his right mind, hes still a fucking asshole for this.

I miss him so bad
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Protip: Everyone is selfish
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>>680396478
>Then pick one.
I'm too dumb and lazy, tbh. You can choose for me.
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>>680396594

100% fake post. Life is not a movie. You obviously never experience a suicide.
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>>680395563
It's a compassionate thing to act in ways that you don't feel for the sake of others. It shows that you care about the way that they think and feel about you. But the smart thing to do is just be you. Nobody should give a shit how you act as long as you have some manners. Don't take people's stuff, don't break their things, offer food to others when you eat, don't annoy people by being needy and demanding their attention too much, clean up your damn messes, don't expect people to spend time doing things for you just because they'll say yes fully knowing that they'd rather not do it. Just don't ask people for shit ever, take from people only if they offer.
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>>680375031
This. Imagine the mental strain you will put onto the person who finds your corpse. Especially if it's a loved one. My sister in law spent 4 months in the hospital psych ward, after she found her brothers body. Brains leaking out the back of his head, still had a faint pulse. Died on the way to the hospital. He was a lazy, cowardly prick. This was before the suicide. He was selfish before, no surprise his final act was selfish and self pitying. Here we are, dealing with the aftermath. He's lying in a casket, not a care in the world.
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>>680375359
This too.
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Suicide is a sin. Suicide faggots doesnt think in god's shit. Perhaps its that.
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>>680397109

I hate you

idk why I even said anything, I'm on /b/ what do you expect I guess?

Want proof?
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>>680395998
Kek
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>>680378525
Baby don't hurt me
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>>680387989
Good point. The dude who raped me lived with severe regret. He apologized, but never really atoned. He drank himself to death, at age 40. Lazy bitch.
>>680388612
>>680388779
Children. Everything you know and have is based off of your ancestors hard work. Yes, you owe them. Yes, you owe the world. You didn't create western civilization, but you reap the rewards. You need to do your part.
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>>680398249
Greentext rape story
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>>680398249
Nope, I was given a life in western civilization, I never agreed to buy one.
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>>680374423

Envision that your perception of the world is not absolute, for just a moment. That you probably hold some views of it that are fully delusional. We all have delusions, otherwise difference of opinion would not exist. We all think that certain things matter more than other things, that things must mean "something more." We believe that certain actions are wrong even though our instincts tell us otherwise. We all accept some amount of delusion whether we realize it or not.

Now consider that your saddness and feelings that you should cease to exist may be one of these delusions, or perhaps a collection of many delusions.
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>>680387989
Duty? Bullshit. I never asked to be alive. My mom should've aborted me. Her life would've been better.
She is the only thing that keeps me around. When she's gone i won't have any reason to not kill myself.
But first i need to find a painless, effective, clean way to kill myself.
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As long as you dont have children under 18, old parents to take care of, or a loving spouse/gf I think you can kill yourself
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>>680375359
This.
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All negativity is caused by an accumulation of psychological time and denial of the present. Unease, anxiety, tension, stress, worry - all forms of fear - are caused by too much future, and
not enough presence. Guilt, regret, resentment, grievances, sadness, bitterness, and all forms
of nonforgiveness are caused by too much past, and not enough presence
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>>680400213

There are several forms of depression. In one, a person cannot accept that all of what we call "meaning" is an invention of the human mind, and forever searches for it without fully understanding it or finding it. Existential depression.

Another is caused by making false assumptions about how others think of you, even misinterpreting the intentions behind the words others. With this, you must have someone you can trust and ask them how they mean things. Believe what they say. Correct yourself.

A third is cause by repressing something traumatic that has happened to you. Failing to acknowledge that it happened, maybe not even realizing that it happened and unconsciously holding onto deep feelings about.

All are professionally treated the same, with pills and vague questions like "how many hours do you sleep a night?" "Does alcoholism run in your family?" "Describe how you feel."

Psychology's a joke. So you have to figure it out yourself.
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>>680400392
You should calm your mind. You should really get some help, it will all pass
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>>680400213
This is One of the best Posts in this thread
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>>680402326
That is not true. How can you even say psychology is a joke? Some people got out of their depression not by medicine treatment, but by mindfullness for instance. In some Non Western countries people don't even know therapeutic treatment because they remove these problems simply by collective support.
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>>680402439
lol
I'm not even depressed.
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>>680403269
You don't sound very happy either. What bothers then when it all doesnt matter?
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>>680403451
I'm apathetic most of the time i guess.
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>>680403263

I stand corrected.
The clinical practice of psychology is a joke. Psychology as a science and in a research setting is very important. I also agree that mindfulness is the way to go. But you do have to figure it for yourself, by being mindful.
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>>680400392
What do you think you're lacking in life?
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>>680403905
You can change it if you know how and really, really want to. Nobody should ever give up.
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>>680374423
I agree

>Dont be selfish anon

>how do you think i would feel

oh ok so your needs are more important than the fact i feel like not existing anymore?

but when i come to you for any kind of hope you basically give me the finger right?

then when youre down and out i am thee for you and dont judge

how about you go fuck yourself you selfish cunt
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>>680374423
The primary cause of unhappiness is never the situation but thought about it. Be aware of the thoughts you are thinking. Separate them from the situation, which is always neutral. It is as it is.
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>>680404435
Goals. The will to do stuff. Social skills.

>>680404554
Yeah, i know. Easier sad than done though.
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>>680376680
I'm guessing between 14-17
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>>680403905

Try drugs before suicide. Get high, get emotional and let you're feelings dump out to someone you feel somewhat comfortable with. Nothing psychedelic. Stay away from weed, shrooms and lsd, you'll flip out because you have so much held in. Go for x
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< 34 > I bet /b/ is going to enjoy this new leak. She cheated on me and thus I will be dumping all her vids https://wgg.co/Qj6zE Few minutes and it will be removed :)
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>>680405027
>>680405027
Bro I've been here at least since 2008 and goals can be set, social skills can be improved (it is a skill after all) and the will can be trained. I think if I would tell my deluded, misguided past-self that my present would be like this I wouldn't believe it.

You have all that's needed but if you look for the outer big bad world to complete you, you will not find it. This world is fucking insane, I agree with that but it doesn't bother me anymore in a way I get my mind filled up with negativity. At least not for long.
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>>680377291

If you gonna go, do it extravagantly. Make a Cobain and splatter your brains all over the wall with a shotgun like a fucking fresco. Aim up and diagonal so it mulches your brain and you end up dying instead of being disfigured like that guy in the Preacher comic.

Hell, write out a will telling them to cremate you and combine your ashes with fertilizer so they grow a tree with that shit. Like, an apple three or something. That way, everytime someone eats from that tree, they are metaphorically eating your dick.

Godspeed you fuckface.
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>>680405620
I used to suffer a lot when i was younger. Now i'm 37 and don't give a fuck. I'm not happy but i'm not depressed all the time like i used to be.
I just go with the flow.
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>>680374423
>Killing yourself with a .32acp
It's like you want to become a vegetable.
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>>680405632
> ashes with fertilizer
>grow a tree
Why you want something even to grow after death while you weren't even fruitful when alive
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One of the best things I've ever did was starting to read. Books contain so much wisdom.
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>>680405027
Then spend time thinking about what you want in life. You can't have a fulfilling life if you don't know what would be feel fulfilling. You sound sound like a teenager. If I'm right, you haven't even experienced a fraction of this world. How can you say that there's nothing here for if you've barely seen any of the world, only known a handful of people, only bad a handful of life experiences? It gets better kid, if you keep moving forward, keep learning about yourself and others. It gets a lot better.
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>>680406536

This is so sad you should really just kill yourself.

Though you are in /b/ so it's obvious you're just attention whoring and you won't do shit else.
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>>680406124
I'm 38 and the exact opposite.
Was very happy when I was younger, and now life sucks and I'm more than ready to check out.
No doubt it just gets worse from here as more shit starts to break down. I wanna go out with some dignity, not forced to fuck old women because i'm not competitive with the hot ones anymore and wait for my fucking joints to give out and my hair to go and all that shit.
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>>680407362
That sounds like a hit.
But still, why would you? Isn't that death romanticism-desire more sad?
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>>680398249
If femanon, poast tits
If dude, please don't mention the guy who raped you anymore, unless you were really young when it happened, then greentext with details
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>>680375216
You're actually useless, not a chance you have any dependents. Go ahead and blow your brains out.
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>>680407700

You and are quite opposite then. I was a miserable kid and a pretty content adult. But I'm not near your age, so maybe I'll be in for it when I'm older.
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>>680409233
>I used to suffer a lot when i was younger. Now i'm 37
>I'm 38
>I'm not near your age
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You didn't choose to come into this world, so it doesn't make sense that you can choose to leave.

Humans are too complex for their own good, unfortunately. How many other species commit suicide? I'll wait.
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>>680408119

No male would so casually mention his rape
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>>680377085
Wouldn't be the first one,faggot.
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>>680409723
what about an openly gay male with a secret fetish?
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>>680409554
Different anon
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>>680409697

Um... ahhh... LEMMINGS!
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>>680409723
are you a really big girl who wants to be ugly now that you've been raped? Apparently that happens a lot.
Can we see the hole he used to make you sad? Up close?
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>>680374423
Because they can't profit off of you if you're dead, OP.
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>>680406124
Good. You've learned to be content. THATS the meaning of life.
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Selfishness is a mindless accusation in general.
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>>680409969
True.. a wonderful exception.
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>>680374423
>>680410695
>>680410661
>>680410644
>>680410301
>>680410277
>>680410099
>>680409984
whats the song that keeps you going?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXbSfl0O3qU
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>>680410661
Explain. Because others wouldn't understand.
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>>680374678
Too much of a pussy to just give up everything? That doesn't sound right
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>>680411286
That was supposed to go with a ?
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>>680375193
Boohoo, the person going through a tough enough time that killing them self is the only option didn't consider other people's feelings. It's incredibly selfish to make someone's suicide about yourself
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>>680411259
Thanks for exposing me to that.

>>680411286
Everything we do is selfish in one way or another.
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>>680374678
>someone kills themselves
>you call them selfish
>effectively making their suicide about you
>ok
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>>680411259
Honestly, it's this. This song helps motivate me to keep studying Japanese and Korean, and to keep on fighting until I eventually graduate and live the life I want.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWBn9sN6NwI
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>>680411259
>whats the song that keeps you going?
I'm >>680410277
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pR3-Mr8H8Kw
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>>680411407
>didn't consider other people's feelings
Guilt trip. Bullshit. Try again
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I'm just gonna leave this here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3ZA-_kWGGc
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>>680389042

Finally, a free lunch!
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>>680374423
Because someone had to clean up your mess.
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>>680374423
When you commit suicide the pain doesn't disappear it transfers to another
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>>680413254
Which begs the question if most of you frequent rekt threads why not sign up to be the guy who has to clean up shit like that?
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>>680374423
If you want to die enough to an hero but don't find a way to take a few jew bankers out with you then you truly are as worthless as you think
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>>680413396
not if no one gives a fuck about you
Let me guess, you care right white knight?
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suicide is a logical decision. most of the time people do it because their quality of life is very low. telling them to stick around and suffer so you don't have to know someone that died is selfish IMO

when you suffer immensely it provides a certain level of clarity. like how you see your loved ones before you die. all the mistakes you made in life become very apparent.
you become a seer. you see how much happiness you missed out on.
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>>680413816
Wow, now I want to live more than ever now.
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>>680397517
call the ambulance
put on live stream
>door bell
open up for medical worker (they are getting paid for this)
DO IT NOW FAGGOT.

so your sister only may see your last master art piece painted by your own blood.

pls r8
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>>680413816
>telling them to stick around and suffer so you don't have to know someone that died is selfish
This
>you see how much happiness you missed out on
This becomes more and more apparent the older you get. It becomes hard to live with very quickly
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>>680374423
Because people don't understand the hell of intrusive thoughts or psychosis or ocd. Try not thinking about suicide when your mind forces you to obsess over it.
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>>680415847
when you're young and healthy you're blinded by your own happiness. take careful note how nobody tries to take advantage of a suicidal person. They struggle to maintain eye contact with you. They can see death in your eyes. when your quality of life drops it becomes very easy to who your loved ones are.

We deny ourselves of our innermost fantasies.
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>>680375193
Wrong. Try doing it sometime. You're a coward if you don't do it
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>>680374423
Thats an opinion only a selfish person would hold.
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>As long as a woman can look ten years younger
than her own daughter, she is perfectly satisfied
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>>680376411
Look up Bud Dwyer kiddo
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>>680416521
Keep telling yourself that as you eat the cowards bullet.
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But
what the gods give they quickly take away. You have only
a few years in which really to live. When your youth goes,
your beauty will go with it, and then you will suddenly
discover that there are no triumphs left for you, or have to
content yourself with those mean triumphs that the
memory of your past will make more bitter than defeats.
Every month as it wanes brings you nearer to something
dreadful. Time is jealous of you, and wars against your
lilies and your roses. You will become sallow, and hollowcheeked,
and dull-eyed. You will suffer horribly.
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