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ITT: best and worst martiale arts

>Best
(kick)boxing
Wrestling

>Worst
Aikido
All no touch bullshit

Tai chi isn't even a martial art
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>>680186221
did you just say kickboxing is the best "martial art"? Holy shit you are retarded and probly watch MMA. The best martial art is either Krav Maga or Hung ga Kung fu faggot
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As someone who wrestled for four years in high school, wrestling would get you killed against someone who knows what they are doing in things like mma or fighting with strikes
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>>680186500
>Krav Maga
too obvious
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oh ffs wrestling martial art , what a dumb amerifat redneck
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>>680186500
kravmaga or russian sistiema
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>Best
Kyokushin
Judo

>Worst
everything else
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>>680186221
Wing chun
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>>680186814
for worst, yeah
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>>680186221
Ehum, No.

>Best
Dirty Fighting.
(I.E: SAMBO but with dirtier tricks and improvised weapons)

>Worst
Karate
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>>680186814
Is best
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Yellow Bamboo is best Kung-Fu
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>>680186866
then why would fucking MAS OYAMA say this?
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>>680186866
>improvised weapons

You know what's better? A gun.

You're a fucking retard.
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>>680186866
Dubz tells the truth.
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>>680186221
God Tier
>Muay Thai
Great Tier
>BJJ
Good Tier
>(Kick) Boxing
>Wrestling
Shit Tier
>anything not listed
Meme Tier
>taekwondo

- someone who actually trains
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>>680187014
Technically, you could improvise a gun with a piece of chewing gum, some bullets, and a revolver.

Also, not everyone lives in Fatland.
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>Best
Free fighting

>Worst
every "style"
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>>680186221
Best
>Kung Pao (chicken or beef)
>Szechwan shrimp

Worst
>Any shit with lobster sauce
>broccoli and beef
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>>680186581
wrestling is very useful in MMA but maby not as the only martial art.

>>680186500
issue with Krav mage is that there isn't enough sparring. Drills are good for getting a technique but unless you spar against a resisting opponent you won't able to apply it in real life.

>>680186866
Karate really depends on the style. Some are all dancing and others are legit fighting.

and again dirty tricks like eye gauging and nut kicking can't be done sparing so you won't be able to apply them better then a normal martial artist with just drilling.
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Krav maga is the best.. Im saying this out of experience.. (idf paratrooper)
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>>680186866
>>680187206
I forgot Sambo. Sambo is Great tier
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Anyone sufficiently skilled in any
fighting style would be very dangerous. Hapkido and Muay Thai are both very efficient at inflicting pain and damage respectively
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>>680187327
kek
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>best
Krav Maga

>worst
Cappuera
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wrestling is perhaps the worst martial art because it teaches you to leave your neck exposed to chokes.

anyone who has watched the ufc once can slap a guillotine or rear naked choke on a wrestler shooting a double leg.

also they leave their hears totally unprotected, a good striker can pick a wrestler apart at range.
judo+muaythai= best martial arts combination. Some katate for timing and movement helps too. Obviously boxing is the best at letting your hands go, but the defensive techniques often require the use of gloves, not present in a fight.

ps judo doesn't require a gi. Your tshirt is good enough
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There are no great martial arts, there are only great martial artists
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>>680187407
>yes goy, make sure to buy Krav Maga lessons from local hebrew
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>>680186763
>Kyokushin


shorin ryu would beg to differ.
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fuckin weebs
>>>/a/
Gfto
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Taekwondo with a combination of bjj and boxing
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>>680186221
define best/worst
For what?
Self defense?
Having fun?
Kicking ass?
Kicking ass in the ring where there are rules?
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>>680187452
pretty much this. all hand to hand combat systems have more in common than they do differences.
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>>680187206
good list but judo should be at least great tier
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Judo?
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>>680186221
best martial art is pic related
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WHY. ARE. YOU. ALL. SOOOO. FUCKING. RETARDED?

HERE YOU GO >>680187310
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>>680187327
>Kung Pao

god your a fucking pleb. Its just a poorly flavored boring dish.

Best
>Hunan Chicken
>Cashew Chicken

Worst
>Anything Breaded
>Snow Peas in any dish
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Sparring is one of the most important things in a martial art. If you don't spar you can't combine all the techniques you've learned.

In a fight you won't know how someone will attack and all you've got are your reflexes.
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>>680188176
Looks like the Allies rekt that one.
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The main idea behind martial arts is respect, discipline, hard work, sacrifice and humility, not money and personal gain you MMAtards.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-k_uumIQ1uk
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>>680188432
it isn't an academic and philosophical study anon

It isn't a character building excersize


it's the art of winning a fight. You do that with technique, timing, and the proper application of violence.
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Aikido isn't no touch bullshit. It's joint locks and momentum.
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>>680188432
You could learn all those things while also learning a useful skill, probably roofing in your case
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>>680188127
judo is shit. ju jitsu is great. judo is just the professional wrestling version of ju jitsu
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>>680188285
>cashew chicken
gagged a little
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Best:
Ninjutsu
>rasengan, masenko

Worst:
Kempo
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>>680188970
jujitsu is literally judo made for weak manlets,women, children, and the elderly who can't complete a throw.
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>>680188252
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little faggot?
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>>680188127
No Krav Maga? In B4 Jew rubbing hands.
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>>680186925
>>680186993
>>680187034
>>680187223
The fuck am I looking at here?
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>>680189457
Yes goy, Krav Maga is superior martial art, do not challenge powerful idf
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>>680186654
>>680186221
Wrestling might not be a "martial art" but its a fighting style.
So depends on what OP means.
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Origami and all the "styles" who gives you peace. Like Islam in religion.
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Best muay thai
2nd bjj
Worse
Wing chun

18 year martial artist and carrer martial artist.
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>>680186221
Kek, wrestling. That's like jiujitsu where you'll get messed up if you don't have and anything else then floor game.
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>>680189457
Krav Maga isn't a martial art.
It's a close quarter combat technique.
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>>680189321
This is BS. Pussy ass English took jujitsu from Japan, watered it down so noone got hurt and turned it into a sport.
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best: juijitsu
proof: ufc1
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>>680186500
T'ai chi chu'an pls go
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>Best
Hokuto Shinken
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>>680190085
yes the classic founder of judo- jigoro kano, the famous englishman
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aaaand connor mcgregor has retired
what a poof.
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>>680186221
If you're not practicing shooting, you're not a martial artist. You're a LARPer. If you play with katanas instead of guns, you're not a martial artist. You're a LARPer. If you're doing iaijutsu instead of fast draw pistol practice. You're not a martial artist. You're a LARPer.

Learn to use to weapon of your era, instead of LARPing the past.
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>>680190652
I bet your muzzle safety is a fucking disgrace.
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Best: Savate
Worst: Judo
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>>680188432
The main idea behind martial arts is killing other people so they don't kill you. Fuck this soft, made-up, modern, suburban, bullshit.

>>680190834
Why would you bet that? Safety is the first principal of firearms.
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>>680189608
ok jyou
what is the main weapon of the idf krav maga expert?
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>>680187407
Krav Maga, best for disarming Palestinian children confirmed
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>>680186814
*Wang chung fixed it for you
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>>680186221
Yeah your thread is dead, you obviously know nothing about martial arts you ignorant bastard. Akido would destroy kick boxing. Art of self defense> that is taught to cops and military.
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>>680191145
this is for jyou >>680187407
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>>680191126
if you're doing fast draw pistol practice you're probably going to shoot yourself in the leg because you're an idiot
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>>680191126
good answer
still, would not trust you.
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I practice pancrace.
It adds up things from Muay thai and BBJ.
We also have strikes when on the floor

I don't see how it can be better than this
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>>680186500
>>680186619
>>680186731
Krav maga is awesome, i did it for years now.
In an actual MMA fight a Krav Maga fighter would have no chance though. It's no use against trained Kickboxers etc.
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Never teach the Wu Tang
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>best
>worst
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>>680191394
If you've got a light single action trigger and didn't actually practice
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>>680191105
Judo is pretty good, if utilized out of the spot light. Could slam someone head first into concrete and win.
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>>680191772
>MMA fight a Krav Maga
you're a fucking idiot.
in MMA you cannot gouge, rip, bite tear etc
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>>680191394
Well there's cowboy draw, which is single action. If you shoot yourself with a single action revolver, you deserve it.

Then there's practicing smooth CCW draws with whatever it is you prefer to carry. There's not reason for that to be anywhere near as fast as cowboy fast draw, but you should still practice draw, point, shoot at the range instead of just casual plinking.

My main point is that the time and effort to maintain shooting proficiency is a better use of time, than the time and effort it takes to maintain highly technical hand to hand proficiency. Strength training, and basic boxing/wrestling knowledge is the most the average person can reasonably expect to maintain, and tbh, if you need any more than that in a real situation, you are probably entering territory where a gun is called for anyway. Also, I say pic related is as beautiful as any katana, and I'd rather have it in my waistband than 100 hours of Krav Maga under my belt.
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>>680190564
the fuuuuuuck
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>>680192308
i know, eh
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>>680186763
Kyukushin has the best conditioning. Shit's amazing.
got to a black belt, went to a muay thai gym
got my ass beat
doing muay thai ever since.
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>>680192461
i dont get why he would retire at the height of his career
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>>680192216
Exactly. Think about what you've done
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>>680186221
What style of Aikido are we talking about? The soft spiritual faggot one or the one where you try to kill each other?
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>>680192687
may be a trick to come back in his own time?
fuck knows
rich irish cunt
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>>680190652
If you're target practicing instead of working on your drone technique, you're practically a role player.
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Not one mention of goku anywhere smh
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>>680192726
>the one where you try to kill each other?
does this form of aikido even exist?
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Karate is head an shoulders the worst martial art there is.
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>>680192705
no anon, my point is they would never get in the ring in the first place.
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>>680192790
heh. I want an automated personal defense drone.
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>>680186654
Wat, they do have literature where you're from right?
>utter retard detected
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>>680192035
underrated post
.
Who Dares Wins!
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>>680192216
no shit, sherlock
i was implying that in MMA you can't use the stuff you learn in KM which leaves you quite fucked against any other trained fighter
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>>680187327
Had a giggle m9
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>>680191772
>In an actual MMA fight
>>680193134
yawn
you must love the punching of your head.
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>>680192857
I can't remember the name of the school from the top of my head but it's closer to the traditional martial arts.

too lazy to google it so feel free to ignore but it had something to do with the inventors students or something.
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>>680186925

yo wtf is this videos
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What's the best martial art to train my personal protection robot in, /b/ ?
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>>680193375
that dudes like
''Holy shit! whaaa?? mmmmmm... phwooarr aaaahhhhhhhhh"
kek
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i train in ufc. ur all fuckd
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>>680193504
Op defagdo
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>>680192857
One of the replacement trainers we got actually did teach something like that, it cuts the fluff and the big overstyled movement and cuts straight to joint locks with a lot of speed
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>>680189235
Lol
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>Best
Nig jitsu
>Worst
everything else
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>>680190564
>90564
>the fuuu
>>680192308
>>680192461
>>680192687
>>680192774


he's scheduled to fight nate diaz again at ufc 200 you mongoloid
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>>680186221
Depends on a weapon:
1. Hand to hand - bodybuilding (let's be honest, the bigger one always wins)
2. Mealy weapons - kendo, european fencing
3. Ranged weapons - archery
4. Firearms - open to discussion
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>>680194400
and if he decided to retire than it might not happen
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>>680194400
for fucks sake
use google you fucking retard mutilated cocked spastic
>hur dur he say he faat in durr 2000 dur so can be retirred hur dur hur dur hur dur hur du r hurdururururhrururhurhr
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>>680194419
>melee
sorry
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>>680194419
baitmategreat
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>>680194419
Quality bait
Will probably attract some answers
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actually the best martial art is the one i made up
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Hamon

but kendo is the most entertaining to watch
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>>680193217
>>680193375
Holy fuck I need to learn that
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>>680194419
>bodybuilding
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>>680195700
true. I've seen some guys who were fuckin huge and go the gym every single day but would lose any fight in an instant.
dead-lifts and stairs don't help your punch
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>>680187662
this
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>>680196016
>go the gym every single day
maybe if they practiced fighting every day as well
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>>680190468
Made my head explode m8
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>>680196016
100%
Seen guys who looked strong, but when they got into a fight they had no fucking clue what they were doing.
All that muscle and no fucking brain. What a waste.
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>>680196902
>>680196016
I hope your aren't using this as an excuse to not do serious strength training though.
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Best: San Da, I've started learning it about half a year ago and it's honestly amazing. It's basically normal boxing + kicks + takedowns, but other than being nice to use in ring fights, it's also *fantastic* for self defense and street fights. Here's a video showing it off in case anybody is interested https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnnUaE3DgbY
Worst: Karate, because fuck karate.
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>>680186221
Wing Chun

/thread
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>>680186221
>>680186221

God Tier: Krav Maga, Silat

Shit Tier: Everything else

Actual Tier: Buy a fucking gun you autistic faggot.
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>>680192857
There is the one that normal people do and the one that people from Balkans do. The latest is where you want to kill each other.
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>>680196016
it doesn't help your chin either
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>>680193375
it could not be any mor fake
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Krav Maga's main theme: "If you're gonna get stabbed, might as well pull the knife out of your heart, stab the guy back, and then die in peace"? Like from what I've seen Krav Maga is only good in situations where you're gonna get fucked up anyways
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Dubs confirms Gunkata for GOAT
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>>680186221

gr8 b8 m8 i r8 8/8

also, stop being so obviously cancer who ruined /b/, also, stop being so obviously amerifat, also, stop being so obviously a little faggy kid
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>>680186925
thats some super sayan martial art
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>>680186654
It is absolutely a martial art. If you think otherwise you are confused by the term
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>>680187034
Lost
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> as a martial artist this is the best for being the absolute master
>jeet kune do
>wing chun
>boxing
>jiu jitsu
My self i did some taekwondo for 2 years wing chun aside with some jeet kune do for 2 years and now i am practising boxing
>i can tell theres a diference i can defend my self using wing chun, attack using boxing use legs well as a taekwondo red belt, i cant counter any fight
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>>680186221
Muay Thai/Kickboxing

Wrestling/Jiu Jitsu (some judo thrown in)
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>>680199247
>2years each and not 10+
Please come back when you actually train
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compine these 3
jeet kunde do
jiu jitsu
Boxing
DONE ready for battle
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>>680188970
Judo hurts way worse than BJJ
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>>680190530
Kek I was about to say this.
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>>680191317
Lol no.
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>>680191619
Pancrase was a fighting tournament you dong bag
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>>680195617
this is pure bullshit lol

only technic that is close to this is flying armbar (judo/bjj/...)
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Best:Rex Kwon Do

Worst: Literally everything else
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>>680186500
Wu is that you I thought you died
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5l_t70EG8E0
holy fuck you fking noobs
>GOD TIER
TAI CHI owns every other martial art
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Ameri-do-te
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jW4POr1ZNLc
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>>680200397
skip to 4:20
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wd7M4H0b62k
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a complete MMA fighter wins 1 on 1 every time. if you disagree you know shit.
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>>680201076
i agree, the technique and conditioning of a top-tier mma fighter beats all
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>>680200833
this chis wasnt with him he is a fraud
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>>680189764
must be a fucking incredibly long and successful carrer youve had there m8.
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Bullshit, this gorilla whom is trained in nothing but eating, would rip all your chicken arts masters apart with a grass streach eat grip.

Clearly the best training is eating and building mass.
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>>680201076
I agree here. A skilled mixed martial artist beats all others. And then if u dont count mixed martial artist it would be either sambo or brazilian jiu jitsu
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>>680202813
then why are they going extinct?
check m8
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>>680194070
There is actually a style called "thug-jitsu". Look it up on YT.
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>>680203251
Was created in Houston by yves edwards. Dude used to be a beast
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Been watching anime a lot, always skinnyfat. Started training kendo with a friend from school after reading Hokuto Shinken. After 2 weeks I didn't come there to practice but for people I was training with, yet I still trained there. Can't say I'm anywhere near good, but got abs at least. Only once I had a real fight in my entire life. I punched him in the face as strong as I could and watched him fall on the floor, so didn't really used what I was training, just pure strength.
My brother trained boxing for 10 y or smth, he always says if he has a chance to run away from fight he'd do it.

tl;dr There is no point in saying stronger=better. The more you enjoy training=the better.
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>>680186221
itt:i am twelve
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Judo, best defense
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Bohurtttt best
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>>680189553
Commiefornians who think they can generate force fields.
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>>680191105
>Judo
Who is Ronda Rousey?
inb4:talk to youself
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>>680187206
>BJJ
>Useful in a real fight
>Not being wrestling

BJJ is shit tier and will most likely get you killed in a fight.
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>>680204142
i wish judo wouldnt neglect the ground as much as they do. also leg grabs
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>>680187327
Beef and broccoli is bomb tho
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>>680204475
i hope you dont actually believe this
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>>680186221
>Best
(kick)boxing
Wrestling

Op confirmed for homosexual, we all know you just like touching other guys in an aggressive intimate way. lmao
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>>680203514
Yeah...in the earlier days of mma. The latest fights I have seen of his weren't all that great. Although, the game has changed considerably in recent years.

Forgot to list my training:
TKD, Karate, BJJ, No-Gi grappling, Judo, Muay Thai, US Mil H2H (w/ Delta/Rangers/Seals). High risk entry, Long Distance Rifle competitions, Handguns. Just because I know H2H, I still carry a CCP. Firearms are my favorite MA. Now I just train people on firearms. Had the opportunity to learn all of this because I started MA 20+yrs ago. Then had 10yrs of Mil training and happened to know the right people to get to do all the fun stuff.
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Brazilian ju jitsu is fucking powerful, posting incase it wasn't posted yet
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>>680204727
https://www.jiujitsutimes.com/jiu-jitsu-instructor-killed-trying-to-disarm-a-robber-on-a-bus/
yea it's jj not BJ j but same shit different toilet i imagine? anyway neither are gonna work in a real scenario
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>>680204526
That's why I like Sambo better. It is like the "Russian Judo" with more ground techniques.
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>>680204727
Rolling around on the ground is absolutely the worst thing you can do in a fight. This is why the foundation for effective training is FOOTWORK. Staying on your feet is more effective than submissions on the ground. Boxing is probably your best bet for being an effective fighter.
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>>680191619

true things here
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>>680205495
Good link for sambo?
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>>680205493
>martial arts thread
>IF THERE WAS A GUN
yeah kid, if there's a gun it changes things.
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>>680190652
I can feel the butthurt
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>>680205493
when weapons are involved its best to gtfo or at least have your own
>>680205548
other guy was saying BJJ is useless compared to wrestling. personally i think being able to strike and grapple is the best
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>>680205895
Had several but I just had to get a new phone. Sorry Anon. If I could help I would. Although, Oleg Taktarov did a video series. They may be online somewhere.
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>>680190652
>era
But the government won't give me real drones or missiles dumb ass
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>>680191146
>>680187726
Libtard confirmed
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>>680206186
BJJ is a style of wrestling. Wrestling is fine as a sport but if you're not learning how to throw someone while staying on your feet you're learning shit.
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>>680186221
>14 years of judo
>4 Years of Muay Thai Kickboxing
>2 years of Brazilian Jiu Jitsu
>A few Krav Maga classes.

Ask me anything /b/rothers. I really want to start samba.
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>be that guy
>show up to a martial arts thread
>only talk shit and promote gun because I don't know any martial arts
kek
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>>680206393
>Criticizing Jews
>Being a libtard

I think you've got the wrong demographic
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>>680186500
kike detected
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>>680206516
**Sambo
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ITT:

>Best: memes and everything you haven't heard of before

>Worst: more memes and all the ones you've heard of.

The best martial arts are the ones:

>1. Where the training trains you to overcome adrenaline shock in a combat situation and be aware of your surroundings at all times.

>2. Which emphasize distancing and avoiding range/line of attack.

>3. Which emphasize controlling and feeling your centre of mass.

>4. Which teach how to efficiently transmit the energy from your centre of mass to your limbs.

The Worst martial arts are the ones which do not do this.

Of course, none of this depends on the name of the martial art, but on the training itself, which depends on the teacher.

So OP is a faggot who's spreading shitty memes which don't help anyone.
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>>680206473
Debatable, would u roll with Royce gracy?
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>>680206516
How is your mother's basement like ?
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>>680205206
Are you highly trained in gorilla warfare?
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>>680186814
i prefer chung chang chong ping puang huitzilopochtli
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>>680206473
taking someone down and choking them out seems like a good way to win a fight
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>>680206820
Careful, he'll flip you in that basement
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>>680206820
>>680207044
Lol, I'm not a basement dweller. I am a tall lanky bastard, though.
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>>680206743
Biggest cringe so far keep going guys
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>>680206593
>implying libtards arent Pro-palestinian open border rape welcoming fucktards
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>>680206928
Nah...I preferred to train in the super secret art of orangutan warfare.
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>>680207285

Wanna prove me wrong, buddy?
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>>680199884
u wot m8
it's a sport now
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>>680187405
Wrestling is useful in MMA.

However.

Anyone who JUST tried wrestling in MMA would be wrecked. As the other anon said, it's not a sport that has any real defense against strikes.

That said since when is wrestling considered a martial art?

>>680188432
Sure. That doesn't mean that people can't also think about money and personal gain. Welcome to 2016
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>>680207035
It's a good way to lose control of the situation and have someone kick you in the head

>>680206786
That kind of question is always dumb as fuck
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>>680207453
Making general statements? I don't have to, your opinion is garbage, that's all
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>>680206186
yea, especially if your martial art revolves around rolling around and hugging instead of having actual disarms tried in combat by others that afterwards thaught the art afterwards by surviving, like krav maga or sistema, cuz these things can happen, and when it's at short range like in that specific case, it would have helped...you just can't compare a sport to a martial art developed for survival and anihilation.think, think, think.
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>>680187405

I do Krav Maga (Just a few months) and we do sparring. Mma gloves and helmets, we Even do 3v1 where the solo Just has to "survive" in the ring. But I guess it depends on the instructor. We do however put some limits on the fights, but depending on the experience of the fighters its Just eyes ans breaking bones that are of limit.
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>>680186925
anybody have the webm of the lady getting flattened?
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>>680207626
Wait no why is that dumb as fuck? It's a pretty straight forward y or n
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>>680200305
Underrated post.
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>>680207838
Second
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>>680207672
Did this in a bjj class as well
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>>680187034
Always a good zozzle
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>>680187661
yet fighters with wrestling background dominate every tier
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>>680207453
Nope, and I honestly have no idea if you're right or wrong. But you wrote a full page of anything. On /b/.
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>>680208111
Not one with a boxing background
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>>680187661
You're right about the chokes, but it's hard to practice judo or muaythau when you're on your back.

Everyone needs to know wrestling to avoid getting taken down, but wrestling alone wont win you the fight.
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>>680186221
Wait, why is Aikido bad?

Also; best still is above all The Three Shoe Beating
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>>680187288
Checked
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>>680207421
You're straight retarded, anon
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>Best for combat

Any Martial Art incorporating practice against opponents, such as sparring,, live drills and competition such as Kyokushin, Muai Thai, some forms of traditional japanese Karaté, boxing, etc.

>Best for way of life and spirit

Arts focusing on the bettering of yourself through the practice of a tradition and exercice. People shit on aikido for being worthless when it's not even meant to be used as self-defense or even for combat whatsoever. It is a WAY of life. hence, why it is a "dô" art.

Funny, though, that Kendo and Judo are dô arts, but incorporate sportive practice, though.

>Absolute fucking bullshit tier

Any self-defense art that makes you believe you are learning how to kill with le epin death touch and other ancestral FORBIDDEN ancient super secret techniques only the great masters know of, but only for a moderate fee of 500$ a month for classes and the possibility to reach your black belt in 3 months.

Seriously, why is everyone shitting all over great and legit arts just because they don'T incorporate live combat, but nobody is talking shit about Mcdojos like Ninjutsu and 90% of Tae Kwon Do/Karaté "Self-defense" schools?
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>>680186221
Fuck you, someone trained in aikido can beat any judo, karate scrubs any day
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>>680207665
i guarantee most people who teach/train those disarms have never tried those in combat
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>>680187405
Dude if Krav Maga doesn't have enough sparring for you fucking grab a training buddy and spar with them. It's you're own fault if the style lacks something that can be easily fixed. Also KM doesn't train to be in the fight for long, it's about disabling your attacker and GTFO of there.
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>>680207664

>your opinion is garbage, that's all

Is that all you have?

Is your martial art "Keyboard Ba Ji Quan"?

Everything I said is true.

It doesn't matter what you train in, these fundamentals decide everything, and if your sensei/trainer/whatever is shit, then you're going to get your ass handed to you.

Specific martial arts may have stronger traditions/schools which emphasise these more than others and can be trusted more, but otherwise this whole thread is just dick-measuring memery which means nothing.
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>>680208320
Have you never met a conservative? Unless they are extremely christian they accept all religions (usually besides muslims) and LOVE israel for fighting the dirty palestinians
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Best - Muay Thai or Lethwei

Worst - Judo
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>>680207626
>It's a good way to lose control of the situation and have someone kick you in the head
how so? and dont tell their friends will jump in cause theres nothing stopping my friends from jumping in either.
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>>680188432
>The main idea behind martial arts is respect, discipline, hard work, sacrifice and humility
top kek
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Worst ever- Kung Fu. That dancing with swords and staffs shit is gay ballet.
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>>680186221
Ching chong Wu bang ding ding is the best martial art.
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>>680186221
>Martial Art
>Wrestling & Kickboxing

neither of those are 'martial arts' and everyone who didn't point that out has been trolled.
Good evening.
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>>680208534
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.
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Jui jitsu fag reporting in.
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>>680189950
It's actually a self defence system....
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Best Tier - Som Ting Wong
Wi Tu Lo
Ho Lee Phuc
Bang Dhing Ow
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>>680209035
so... a martial art?
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>>680209007
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Wing Chun is the best, Ip Man would kill you for some rice.
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This is the greatest

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rfMajEy8lc
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>>680204393
They're Austrailian
not that facts matter to people like you
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>>680194419
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>>680208356

>People shit on aikido for being worthless when it's not even meant to be used as self-defense or even for combat whatsoever. It is a WAY of life. hence, why it is a "dô" art.


Aikido in a general sense is a "way of life", but there are still schools of Aikido (Aikikai/Yoshinkan) that are meant to be self-defense/combat systems.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ko4eZTPC6o
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>>680208370
Is that why busted ass Aikido Monk/ Master Segal won't get into a ring since his showing up at random do-Jo's and calling out black belt days? If it were truely a combat system that he should have no issues getting the ring.
"Sensei say- Sensei no fight, sensei loose, Sensei has no students."
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>>680198478
You're wrong. Consider yourself corrected.
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>>680187206
this
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>>680201076
In the ring yes, on the street no.
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>>680186221
The best martial art is "what works." My father was an amateur boxer, and he taught me how to fight. I've been a street scrapper for 30+ years now, and I've faced a lot of people who thought they could shoot the boots with kung fu. Not one has ever impressed me. They learned fast that a street corner is not a dojo mat. I'm partial to boxing because it's what I learned, and because it's all about maximizing speed and impact force while teaching you how to take a punch when you have to, but winning a real fight is more about knowing how to let go of all your conditioned responses about hurting people.

Most people pull their punches and flinch at twisting someone's dick and balls or punching a floating rib or kicking the top of someone's foot. If you can teach yourself to hit first and do it without holding back, any kind of fighting skill will work in a scrap. Contrariwise, being the world's greatest expert at breaking boards or winning refereed matches won't do jack shit on a street corner.
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>>680201335

Are we talking fair fight or fight to the death? Cause in the latter the krav maga and other "No rules" have the advantage of training/learning to think about shit like biting your balls of if we get the chance. And i realize the mma could also do this, but he has not trained to avoid it like krav has.

With the current rules I however completely agree with you
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Know who wins fights? The one with the most friends willing to throw down or the guy with the gun.
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>>680186221
They wear those gay pants because they skip leg day.
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>>680204475
Going to ground is the worst thing you can do in a street fight and very well get you killed. In the ring it's obv different.
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>>680209535
The walking abortion that is Steven Segal doesn't practice aikido.

How do I know this? Google told me.
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>>680208804
Confusing kung fu (actual gung fu) with wushu, I see.
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>>680208534
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>>680209927
cheap shots arent going to help the krav practitioner against a good MMA fighter. chances are the krav guy is going to get out struck and out grappled and be unable to even use things like eye gouges and bites
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>>680186221
Meth
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>>680209148
No. An evolving system that constantly changes and updates. A martial art teaches what was taught 400 years ago and rarely deviates. KM is not a martial art.
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>>680209844
>44
dubs of truth
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>>680207978

How do you 3v1 bjj? Not saying it cant be done, but if you are "locked" with 1 guy, Even if you are choking him out, the other two Will stomp on your head or something. Bjj looks great for 1v1 if ypu need to controll the person, but its suicide if there is a risk of another fighter joining in
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>>680210751
most martial arts change. many of the most popular arts today arent even all that old
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>>680209505

True, but I don't practice Aikido, though, I'm more on the sportive spectrum of the art, but I read a lot of books on Martial Arts and MA philosophy on the sideline of my actual training because it's a great way to learn about other arts and understand about their practices and the way of thinking of the maste writing the book. one of my favorite has to be "Zen in Martial Arts" by Joe Hams. I've read a bit about Aikido. the practice of Aiki seems legit as fuck as a philosophy. Some schools have some really fucking hardcore training.

But it's true that it ALL arts there are shit schools run by posers and charlatans. The worst offenders, to me, has to be Ninjutsu schools. Because in most of all typical mcdojo tier arts such as Wing wong chun, TKD and the such there are always some legit schools with great teachers, but I have yet to hear about ONE Ninjutsu dojo that isn't full of fraudulous shit.

Not only the teachers, but the students as well. Talking about MArtial Arts with Ninjutsu practicioners is always the most awkward and enraging shit there is.

Every conversation start with "Oh yeah I'm a Ninja" and goes down the "Yeah if I wanted I could kill you" line and whatever you do to try to keep it serious or to have an actual meaningful discussion about our mutual passion of martial arts as a whole, it's ALWAYS about how badass they are and how they can kill people because THIER art is the real assassin shit unlike all others that are nothing but sports and play.

And the delusion is so intense that even beating them HARD in a sparring will NEVER succeed in teaching them humility because it was not the real street slef defense scenario.
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>>680210635
Chances are a well trained Kraver will have the guys balls back inside him before the fight kicks off. It's not like 2 guys stand around and square up talking shit. The second you believe it's gonna kick off you should be the first to act. And that act should be a disabling one followed up with a second/third.
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>>680200305
Kek'd
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>>680187310
>free fighting

Lol b lyk wutr bru
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>best Shaolin Traditional Kung Fu
>worst Karate
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>>680208778
>>680191126
>>680188764

It is a skill as much as it is a way. I've trained in MMA for 4 years, arguably one of my best experience, but tradition was there. my teacher's teacher was a 6th dan kyokushin master. So we saluted like in a kyokushin dojo, responded OSU like a kyokushin dojo and, overall kept most of the traditions of Karaté as part of our routine. Even some of the training involved Karaté shit, such as hitting the Makiwara to strenghten the knuckles and the such. say waht you will, but the physical conditioning of Kyokushin, despite using tools made of straw and bamboo, is TOP fucking notch.

I don't agree with Martial Arts as nothing but practicability. obviously Martial Arts are the art of war, but it doesn't mean that there is not a discipline and philosophy behind combat. It's just too bad that you really can't care enough to see it. One complements the other, in my opinion.
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>>680211326
im not trying to knock krav maga but a lot of what it does is essentially super basic MMA with cheap shots thrown in
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Best:
>Liberal Arts

Worst
Everything else
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>>680211204

>"Zen in Martial Arts" by Joe Hams

I'll check it out, thanks.

>The worst offenders, to me, has to be Ninjutsu schools

Kek apparently there's only one real ninjutsu practitioner left in the world in Japan, and he refuses to take new students because he says nobody needs it any more.

He says training is basically Oliver Twist-style pickpocket stuff with bells.

Look up "Jinichi Kawakami".
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>>680210043
He talked about it all the time on his reality series about being a reserve police chief. As well when he was training a ufc fighter. Either way he is a poser.
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>>680210043
From his personal web sight: http://stevenseagal.com
His bio states "A son of a Math teacher and a Medical Technician, Steven’s humble childhood was underscored by a fascination with the Martial Arts and the blues.

Some would say that this is a strange combination, but ask any Martial Arts expert or blues legend and they will both tell you that it is the spirit that reaches deep within your soul that drives the artistry.

Call it an obsession or a calling but Steven mastered Martial Arts at an early age, becoming a 7th degree black belt and Aikido master."
Check your facts son!
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Black belt in kabullet here... never lost a fight.
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>>680212400

Yeah I've seen it and, well, that's basically what Ninjutsu has always been. I respect Ninjutsu as a tradition and find it awesome that this guy is the last one keeping the century old tradition of the Japanese spies. In that aspect, I think ninjutsu is amazing. The historical side of Ninjutsu is some of the most interesting and dark aspect of Feudal Japan's history.

It's the Ninja/karaté movie boom of the 70's and 80's that ruined everything. after everyone went crazy over how awesome the black dressed dudes with Katanas, all the frauds around the world capitalized on every edgy kid's desire to become a super hero and are sucking them dry of their money.

In my practice of martial arts, I've sparred against a lot of people. I absolutely love the practice and pursuit of MArtial Arts and am willing to try almost anything, so I'm never one to turn down a friendly sparring, but when it comes to sparring with edgy kids from le killing arts dojo, I make it a duty to teach them a lesson in humility.

I remember sparring with some wannabe kung fu idiot who heard I practiced martial arts and bothered me all night at a party to fight with him because he wanted to impress the chicks. I ended up accepting and all I did most of the time was dodge and kick his vulnerable legs. I remembger him saying "Hey dude, could you stop kicking, please? Because, then I'd have to kick as well and when I kick, I aim for the kill!"

I boxed for a couple of years, so I didn't fucking care that I couldn't use my legs. It changed from kicking his vulnerable legs to non-stop face jab and body blows. Shit was hilarious.

I'll never understand why people who never stepped in any type of gym in their entire life insist on acting like tough shit with people who actually do.
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>>680213513
Lol, yea I am a 2nd degree shootfighter. Controlled pair center mass until the threat is eliminated.
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>>680192726
Aikido fags are weak. I sparred one and just punched him in the face while he tried to grab my wrists, it's pussycore. As bad as judo.
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>>680187034
choo choo fuckermother
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Let's face it. The streets aren't crawling with with tang clans or ninjas. Gangbangging thugs have the numbers, the guns, the drugs, the power to cripple a city, he'll a nation (Mexico). They don't stand and fight they come at you when you least expect it. A kid a stranger and blow your face off or at least innocent by standards in a drive by. In a survival situation the mental and physical discipline taught in any discipline is a great ease but the scum of the earth. The ones that will kill you for the contents of your pocket is fueled by a drug withdrawal and don't care if you know shit. But he or she will sure as hell blow you away because of a itchy, withdrawn trigger finger don't care what your belt is in.
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>>680214165

> while he tried to grab my wrists

That's a big no-no in Aikido. You're not supposed to try and grab anything before you have your opponent off-balance and off-center.
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>>680212371
Yeah man. Not saying you are and I agree that if they stood toe to toe without the cheap shots mma is superior. The cheap shots are what could save your life.
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Tai Chi USED to be a martial art. Some schools of it still teach it as such.
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