maybe not as a recent grad, but definitely over a lifetime
the alumni networks are full of people in high places and when people ask where you went to school, people will react with admiration
many jobs (especially in finance) and promotions are realistically off limits to people without ivy league education
promotion also happen quicker across the board
>My friend graduated from Wharton
mine did too
I know it's a sports league, but it just feels off that guys at Cornell learning professional farming are 'Ivy Leaguers' but some MIT guy who's building rockets for Elon Musk isn't
Ivy League is a sports league. Mit is not included.
Cornell engineering science/engineering is fantastic. Engineering probably better than harvards but not on par with Mit.
Of course the hotel school,industrial labor relations, and the ag school are complete horseshit
ib is like that for analysts, but more senior levels have better lives
also many leave ib and go into vc/pe/consulting in roles that they wouldn't really have access to without the ivy education and ib background
Double ivy here with my $0.02.
I constantly regret going to Princeton UG. Unless you're already connected or super charismatic I don't think it opens many doors and was a miserable experience. I think I'd have been much happier being a big fish at a happy state school or liberal arts college.
Harvard Law is the exact opposite. If you want to be a lawyer, especially with a high paying corporate job, you absolutely get your money's worth IMO.
back in high school my gf attended a summer camp thing at cornell for the hotel program
all because some nasty jew her mother was dating (and later married) was alum and on the board of whatever
Dumb sluts. Seriously. It's an entire program full of dumb sluts and faggots. They end up landing pretty plush jobs though. But they literally study how to best be faggy servants for rich people.
University of Phoenix, the Ivy League of Online degrees. But how come I can't get into a Med or Law School???
>Stoner fag here. Do Ivy Leaguers party extremely hard?
you're never going to find out with your brain working at 50% its potential while you shove cheetos down your throat as you play through dark souls for the second time
I'd say I'm pretty good. White master race always wins in the end. Besides, there seems to be more foreigners(excluding Asians) in computer science. Fuck that, CompSci is for codemonkeys.
cornell is a weird mix of retards and smart people
hotel, ilr, and human ecology are completely retarded, and guaranteed ilr transfers are some of the most retarded people i have ever met
engineering school is top notch, but some of the other schools which are more diversified are a mixed bag
the arts school which is prestigious has a ton of really easy majors (history, econ, and pol sci are like a total of 10 really easy courses) and a ton of more difficult majors (chemistry, physics, bio)
for ag school, people often think it is retarded because of the acceptance rate and retarded ag (and some other) majors, but you actually apply to the major not the school, so reporting and people's understanding is a bit off. ag school has the prestigious aem business program which is among the most difficult majors to get in at cornell, and ag also has many majors which are literally the same as across engineering or cas. i was a bioeng cals major and took literally 100% the same classes as other bioeng majors and had the same acceptance rate, but i got to pay a lot less (not that it really matters with the aid)
in short, cornell is kind of a cluster fuck and in many cases deserves getting shit on, but not in other cases. the most recent president was hoping to get rid of a lot of this bullshit, but she died of colon cancer less than a year after her inauguration
You're a fool for thinking you're good. Everyone goes to school thinking they're the best, but you aren't shit, kid. You gotta learn that now. You may be valedictorian of your class, but you're going to be competing against the vals of thousands of other schools. And those foreign exchange kids. Trust me, they are FAR better than most Ivy-tier American kids. I know because I've already been there. I have friends who have gone to stanford and to MIT and yale, thinking they were going to be engineers, but only to be washed out of their majors within two years.
Don't take it hard, or as an insult. I'm giving you advice as someone who has experience: DO NOT go into MIT thinking you're good. You aren't. You'll be 'average' if you're lucky. To truly get good, it will take a LOT of work, and you will stumble. Work hard, kiddo.
hahaha when I said "pretty good" I mean't slightly above what I'd expect to be average. I don't expect to be the brightest mind at MIT or one of those "Good Will Hunting" types. I'm well aware I'm competing with better people now, not normies.
It just hurts when the way it works at your school is that students rat race each other to take as many AP's as they can to inflate their gpa. Many took shit loads of classes at a local university over the summer. Many sneaked their way into AP classes as freshmen or sophomores that they technically weren't allowed to be taking.
Instead of focusing on that bullshit like I should've, I focused on math contests, history bowl, etc. and literally would destroy many of the students who got into the ivies in the various contests we participated together in.
Some other clubs would bar other students from entering- they had a system where you "applied" to them, but instead of giving out a fair non biased test to see who was best for it, they told you to send a slip with your name and teacher recs. Everyone would get the exact same recs, the only difference was who knew who in the club already. The whole clique of the toxic gpa racers knew each other and let each other in.
I went to the University of Kentucky.
What does that get me?
Well you're taking baby steps. Also, the whole 'white masterrace' shit? Yeah thinking like that will also kill you. Chances are you are going to be beat by some asian kid from china doing the same degree, and thinking you're superior will make you feel invulnerable to failure
I thought the same, but I was wrong.
You're number one in your little nobody high school right now, but you're about to step into the most competitive scientific institution in the world. You will not be number one over there unless you are incomparably genius.
Pray you are prepared to be immersed in an environment where every single freshman admitted are former valedictorians/perfect scorers on every AP/IB/SAT II test there is. There are some who have already invented something extraordinary even before they got there and its how they got in. (The girl who made a bionic arm, for example).
Good luck, friendo. - From a Berkeleyfag.
Honestly the Ivy title doesn't mean shit when the school is easily worse than UC Berkeley (I'm looking at you, Dartmouth)
That's not even including schools like Caltech, Stanford, MIT, etc.
Doesn't matter, The mindset is toxic. If you are even covertly racist, you will get angry if you are beaten by an Asian or a Black. And I don't know how angry you get, but getting mad at yourself over such petty things will be bad for academic health. Especially when you realize that you are probably actually inferior to other races erhm Asians.
UoC fag here feeling inadequate about not being in an Ivy.
ivy league prof here
all my degs are from ivy's too (bach/masters/phd)
doesn't really matter in academia, since everything is a melting pot. but if you go to one everyone knows and goes 'ah'. everyone assumes it means you know something.
a colleague was in my office today talking about how he got accepted to harvard undergrad early. he was in his 50s, leader in his field, nature/science pubs etc....and still talks about getting into harvard for undergrad.
it's a stupid vestigial trait of blue blooded elitism, but thankfully smart people electing to stay in less expensive state schools (not counting chicago, stanford, mit, duke, etc...) produce some fucking amazing things. i say this as someone who is part of the problem and actively try not to be an ivy league douche.
I couldn't agree more.
They aren't called regressive for nothing.
My initial point was that conventional wisdom will only bring an individual to a limit, after which many pursue a PhD elsewhere. This is usually for the individual to seek knowledge in a manner that is more involved or interactive (particularly with historical sciences [e.g. Geology, Paleontology, Paleoecology]) where funding within a department is more agreeable for the PhD student than an Ivy League College.
How do I get my brain at 100% its potential? I don't even smoke weed I might just be horrendously autistic. I just cannot bring myself to study with the same vigor as most of my peers.
Yale here. And no, the SJWs are actually not that bad. They all shut the fuck up as soon as exams started last semester. And we haven't been cucked out of calling our residential college masters "master"
Cough cough harvard cough cough Princeton
I'm not even joking now, I'm genuinely concerned about your mentality. Either you're a school child, which I fully understand, and if so you shouldn't be on an 18+ board.
And if you aren't a school child, then you have my deepest sympathies
Man if you aren't having a blast, learning a ton, and meeting amazingly smart and interesting people every day, then you are somehow fucking it up big time.
>You don't go to college to party.
When I would go to gf's, people always thought we fucked the entire night, but in reality, we would study until literally 2 or 3am. Which was fine since we didn't have class everyday. But don't get into that college = party mindset.
>You don't deserve a job, don't think you'll get one
Knowing this should motivate you to work hard and do well in college, even if you have a hard major. Only through hard work and recommendations can you get a job, not simply because "look ma, i'm a 'civil engineer' now!"
>Your phone is satan before exams
Yes, it can helpful for searching things up quickly, but when studying, throw that shit into a cabinet until you finish your cram session. NO MUSIC EITHER
>Know your physical limits
Don't work a job, play 2 sports, be in 10 activities and pursue two degrees. Doing that means that 1. You won't work as hard because you'll be fucking tired. and 2. You'll just end up doing everything shittily
Please. Penn and Cornell for undergrad (many of their grad programs are top notch) are clearly the Ivy Slums. Save your money and go a good public university. Every person i've ever met who did undergrad at either institution was somewhere on the spectrum from outright stupid to deeply mediocre.
Lots and lots. But the biggest thing is this--every single person there (with the notable exception of a sizeable contingent of recruited big-sport athletes and 10th generation legacies) had at least one thing they were extremely passionate and could speak excitedly and intelligently about. Find that thing, and that person would be fascinating. Since graduating, i've sadly realized that most people are just rather boring and mundane. I miss being so surrounded by people that were more hard-working, smart, and interesting than me.
here you go, anon. you asked for it.
Take your trap fetish back to ltbg, you bug chasing faggot.
in my experience those schools just have a wider range
wharton is good and so is cornell eng
there are shit majors in both schools though, which is the real problem- not that the schools are retarded, but that retards can get into those schools
damn that sounds great. I'm applying there as a transfer and am very excitedly awaiting decisions, which will be out at the beginning of may.
I'm very passionate about cultures and religions and will talk about it till my throat hurts to people that will listen, so that sounds like a bretty cool place for me!
That's actually a (somewhat famous) girl who went to Yale and Yale Law. And...yeah. That's what ivy women look like.
those rankings aren't worth a shit. as a current doctoral student, i am endlessly grateful that my classes were never taught by some idiot doctoral student. stuff like that doesn't show up in school rankings.
Wait, people in Kentucky have internet? And know how to read?!
Going to NOVA because my laptop costs more than a semester's price, then transferring to V-Tech for Mech. Eng., am I fucked /b/ros?
They share the one terminal. And book.
It's a gripping read. Dick and Jane go on an adventure to the top of the hill, then run around with their dog. But Spot is not a good dog, so Dick and Jane must find a way to bring him to heel.
Masterfully written for the audience; they'll never need another book.
Went to DeVry and I'm a startup founder now employing Ivy league faggots to make me money lol
I already knew network security though.. even before faggot fucking mediocre college.
yeah they accept some tiny number of transfer students, so I only have a tiny chance of getting in. But I will say that merely completing the application was a life changing experience in itself; I definitely look at my education differently now.
Don't listen to these fags. The vast majority of them are going to be wage slaves like any school's student body.
When your school is highly respected by finance, banks for recruiting, I'd say it's worth it for bachelors. None of my major classes were taught by doctoral students, all full time profs. Not sure what youre butthurt about...the waste of time that is your PhD?
I took an Oracle class during my last year of HS and was originally going to follow down the CS route with server database design/development. The whole Systems Eng. idea but what scared me was the whole cubicle office environment. Working with my hands I find being the most ideal. I hope maybe to go into the Robotics branch of Eng. so I can use my intuitive coding skills.
hmm i drive a 2016 civic lol so not liquid rich.. On paper I'm worth about 7M. But on paper doesn't mean shit til it's liquid. I'm eating like a normal low 6 figure engineer. Except they get dropbox and google food :/
Thought about introducing food into our culture, but most my engineers work from home because fuck svalley commute and we get a lot more done.
>even before faggot fucking mediocre college.
So you're saying if I got to DeVry, I'll learn to fuck faggots?
As soon as I peel this 20 minute Crest Whitening Strip off my asshole, I'll hit you up.
What is the deal with the reject Ivies? This idiot was rejected by CAL/UCLA, but his parents could afford full tuition Brown. Meanwhile my stupid ass was told to fuck off by USC/Stanford/CAL/Caltech/UCLA, but accepted to Michigan and Columbia. My parents would not pay full tuition, so I had to go to shit tier UC San Diego. I know the asshole in the article.
Well played, anon. I like the cut of your jib.
And he did get accepted to an ivy, illiterate newfriend.
Do any of you remember Yale student Victoria Marshman from ANTM? I search her name know, and no new info shows up; like she vanished. I always figured she would wind up on Wall St. and be easy to find online. Are there hot chicks at Ivies; at least Columbia should have some. USC has the pretty white girls on the west coast.
Actually, I'm not.
>Meanwhile my stupid ass was told to fuck off by USC/Stanford/CAL/Caltech/UCLA, but accepted to Michigan and Columbia
He was accepted to Columbia. Columbia is an ivy. Fuck off, retard.
I realise that college is a small fraction of my life and I wish to essentially "get in and get out"; I'm taking summer classes to get ahead since it aligns with my plan. Thanks for the advice anon, but I don't see how caring how I do compared to others, like UVA students, really matter...
Uh, I just started college 2 semester ago. It's community college, but I'm a student ambassador for the school, and I've been accepted to attend a study abroad program called CEPA-Europe. (Customized Educational Programs Abroad) after I graduate, I'll get my bachelors in Switzerland through the program. It's a study/work program that wil lallow me to get my bachelor degree in 1 year. When i come back, I'm thinking of specializing in Human Resources. My goal is to get a kush ass job as a Human Resources manager on a beach resort somewhere like...Cancun. Do you guys think this is a good plan? I probably won't ever make Ivy league, but My college is free. the military is paying for it.
Thanks man. That means a lot to me. I tried to explain this dream to a girl once, and she completely rejected it. Actually 2 girls have. I don't know what part of "easy ass job" they aren't hearing. Easy money, and it's like getting paid to take a permanent vacation.
your witty commentary has caused me to kek, good sir.
are you a retarded cuck faggot the hotel school is the best in the world. sure they take easy classes but thats the hotel school in a nutshell. They do the least work and make significantly more than most columbia harvard or brown grads
if you want to get perfect marks, you need to be competitive. I was a top 3 student at my high school, until my final year when I just lost all motivation and decided to play league all day. Still managed to do well because im naturally intelligent, but I didn't get my first uni preference. Now in uni, I'm determined to excel to sort of prove to my parents that I haven't regressed. my marks are perfect at the moment. To achieve, you need to be driven and hungry for success, otherwise it's very easy to fall back into an "ahh i'll do it tomorrow" sort of attitude