/b/ros explain why you are not MGTOW yet.
The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood.
Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.
Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.
/b/ros explain why you are not MGTOW yet.
>>678457265
Because I'm not a kissless virgin.
>>678457265
>implying it's a choice for you
>>678457265
because its just as cancerous as feminism and serves the same culture-marxist cause
>>678457265
cause I like fucking?
>>678457265
Not a beta faggot.
>>678457265
because i have alternate options
>>678457529
OP here you were already born into the system with no choice you do what you are told. Set yourself free bro.
>>678457265
Because it's no different to SJWs and feminists.
>>678457265
Because it's a joke
>>678457821
I don't hate I just can live without a female. I love sex I don't care for relationships.
It only works if the culture accepts it.
>>678457265
I understand why they do it, but not my cup of tea. Also, not getting married does not immediately mean you're MGTOW so I find your pic quite inaccurate
>>678457265
because I don't have a problem with women and I'm sleeping with somenthing around 10 new ones in a given year
TFW the dating pool dries up when you're in your 30s and every woman left for you is old n busted
>>678457468
>>678457529
>>678457568
>>678457623
>>678457821
>>678457875
>itt samefag edgy OP who is indeed a virgin
>>678458646
You have to be a chick to think this way. Men's zenith (sexually and otherwise peaks at 35). Go back hitting yourself against your 30yo wall faggot.
>>678458646
What? It's easier to get chicks now that I'm in my 30's than it ever was in my 20's. I know more about them, I have more experience than I did then, but most importantly I make far more money than I did in my 20's. Money solves all problems.
>>678459249
Right lol. Women were always digging my older bro when I was in my 20's and he was in his 30's. Same size same looks but oh wait....money, cars, experience, etc.
>>678457265
>>678457265
coz the world needs feminists so that people like me can hate fuck the shit out of them to gain personal satisfaction from life.
>MGTOW asexual faggots on the opposite side of the spectrum
>doing the same shit as feminazis
>men should never be cucked by a woman but mgtow are prime candidates
>>678459747
>>678457265
I'm curious, why do MGTOWs put everyone in a basket saying that all women are harpies that want to wreck your shit and end you? (Besides the whole "muh society" thing)
Isn't that the same thing that feminazis do?
never trusted woman since the start, somehor or something made me unable to trust them and listen to them.
after reading certain book and going to 4chan...I'm glad I never had a GF to begin with.
>>678459755
Yes, Dubs. Avoiding being cucked by women makes you a prime candidate to be cucked by women.
>lel, millennials
>>678459747
>>678459968
this killed me a little inside
>exactly what happens
>child of divorce
>>678460217
lol, not even millennial. Dominating women is what women want
>domination = cuck evasion
>>678460114
Far from the truth. You are looking at this from the wrong perspective but taking the red pill will be shocking at first, just give it time and one day you will see what some of us already saw.
>>678460114
Not "everyone." Men are capable of critical thinking, and are aware that a small number of women are not shit-wrecking harpies. But that fraction is so slim that it's not worth the effort and risk when the odds are obviously bad.
Because I found a unicorn. Meet her in high school, shes an army brat, raised at different bases around the world so no fucked up modern western values. I was a devoted mgtow when I was younger but she was my friend anyway. Seen her at her worste and and her best. Even so took 10 years before I decided to trust her. Been married for another 10 at this point and couldnt be happier. It is possible, just rare.
>>678457595
You can fuck just not get married
>>678460580
Sorry for that. I know MGTOW is not for all but its just truth spreading not a hate group.
>>678457265
i rather worry about my career over rejecting women intentionally. I can make my own choice if i want to marry or not.
>>678460202
it comes pretty much around.
ill start reading the book
>>678460968
ah good, well no issue then, wasn't counting on marriage
This
>>678460933
OP here yes most of us won't get that "slim" chance of living a life like yours. With all due repects its great you are happy but MGTOW is just not about some women. Divorce laws and double standards are what drives me insane.
>>678460810
You're not giving me a sound explanation. Elaborate.
>>678460844
But that equals as losing faith (besides doing the same #yesallmen thing but in reverse).
Bear with me, I follow pure logic and the cons are not dire enough to make such a decision so I don't follow.
>>678457265
Have a gf. She wouldn't let me.
>>678461244
Yes
sex is overrated
mgtow is simply not being brainwashed by
the oversexualized representation of ourselves by the media and our environment, already brainwashed by said media.
you guys just need to start living again and stop letting your dick dictate your life like some shittier bee_drones
>>678461303
this is a perfect example of how much
public opinion influences our own.
brainwash is real. your mind is not the fortress
you are always told it is.
it's not that it's overrated...
it's good... and if you find the right person then that's great..
but don't put any effort in finding and begging the hoes to be your gf's, it's not worth it, focus on yourself, and that shit will come to you eventually
I've never really understood the purpose of marriage myself.
>>678457265
A what
>>678460810
Why the fuck do you faggots talk in stupid terms like MGTOW, plates, red pill, etc. you guys sound like fucking retards. Here is the secret to life: don't be a bitch, and you don't always get what you want.
>>678457265
I still have a fully functional penis.
>>678462056
>>678461735
listen to these faggots
>>678460994
no, I realize that but my mother was/is exactly what mgtow are against. for the first few years after her divorce (I was 13, oldest of three) she constantly spout hate about my father, villianising him in our eyes, and being so young we began hating him. thankfully when I reached about 17 I saw through her crap and became my own person, realizing that she is in fact everything I hate. I really hope I never get involved in a long term relationship with someone like her.
She acts really nice in public or around unfamiliar friends so it would be hard for me to spot someone like her
I think you goys need to stop falling for judes whims, get married and have children you godless degenerates
going his own way?
stay single entire life is what you call going own way?
the truth is we all need somebody who we love, and who loves us.
>>678462208
we do, only that you are fucking paranoid that your GF or wife reveals herself and decide to destroy your life with marriage and alimony and child support.
>>678462208
>>678462405
what can you not understand from 'find the right person'?
you think media is brainwashing you? it's the sites like 4chan that are really brainwashing you
you fucking sheep
>>678462273
Thanks for that bro you are a man amongst men. Think forward and bring awareness to our screwed up system.
>>678457265
Because I'm 6 years and 4 kids into the current wife. If I leave, I have nothing left.
>>678461303
Fair enough. And you are right. Mine is the exception. I ackowledge the vast majority are crazy free loaders best avoided. Look out for yourselves since women won't. Just don't let mgtow become an ideology to the point where you close yourself off from rational assessment of the people around you either.
>>678457265
Because I can get laid.
Just don't take women seriously and life is sweet.
>>678461486
This guy gets it.
>>678460994
>MGTOW is not for all but its just truth spreading not a hate group.
And this guy gets it.
>>678461347
>But that equals as losing faith (besides doing the same #yesallmen thing but in reverse).
This guy does not.
It's not intelligent to throw caution to the wind and leap blindly into a good chance of losing your assets, social life, personal freedom just because dat ass wuz fat.
I learned this thought process through experience and observation long before anyone started calling it MGOTW.
>>678462741
Brother you are a woman's decision away from losing everything....think about it that way.
>>678462911
I leave, I lose everything, I stay, I lose everything if she leaves.
Every time she leaves the house I fantasize about how great life would be if she died in a car wreck.
>>678462741
How's it going?
just get a cute asian girl like:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuT7y_W5-P8
and
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HtkCoIEr6I
>>678458646
Tits or gtfo lacey
Only a foolish man thinks like this
>>678463117
>"I could live without sex"
- My wife, 4/5/16
>>678457265
I dunno about MGTOW but marriage is archaic and stupid.
>>678463148
You still need to be a fucking man, though. All chicks will try to wear you down.
Also, keep them in East Asia; Western Culture is cancerous (see: Eddy Murphy in Raw).
>>678463278
Sorry
>>678463278
Fuck bitches on the side; she has a duty to provide you with sex.
Also, hit the gym.
>>678462911
>Brother you are a woman's decision away from losing everything
>>678463022
>I leave, I lose everything, I stay, I lose everything if she leaves.
>Every time she leaves the house I fantasize about how great life would be if she died in a car wreck.
Dubs and dubs of reality.
>>678462888
And trips of truth.
>>678462807
>Just don't let mgtow become an ideology to the point where you close yourself off from rational assessment of the people around you either.
It is precisely about rational assessment of the people around you. Pay attention already!
>>678463385
I appreciate it, but I did this to myself.
>>678463346
This
OP here great comments. Just glad to hear from all sides.
>>678463497
Just turn all your frustration into helpful energy for the kids.
>super horny
Lets go to the park kids!
>>678457265
Because the old way of thinking and a new way of thinking isn't right. It's just like how there are Republicans and Democrats = the establishment and then there is trump
>>678462371
>We need someone worthy of undying dedication, and who loves us
beyond that, yeah, I'd say staying single is "my own way"
>>678463650
>Getting horny before going to the park
ok
>>678463650
>Why does that man have a boner every time he comes to the park?
Yeah, maybe not.
>>678463651
>needlessly interjecting politics
Back to le reddit
>>678463796
>>678463809
Tuck it in the waistband or you just really live the park
>oh fuck yeah the swings
MGTOW are just male feminists who have been 'friendzoned' too many times.
>>678463022
Just lose everything.
Seriously, what do you care? You clearly hate your life the way it is.
Just move as much money as you can into an account she can't access and then divorce her.
You'll still have your job, you can still get by.
>>678464113
Not him but sometimes kids are cool
>>678458646
This is utter bullshit, women of all ages hit on me now more than they ever have in my teens and 20s.
>>678461205
This is what i always knew and i agree
>>678463989
>this guy
>probably a teen who cries on his knees to get laid
>or gay
>>678464275
>OP HERE AGREED
>>678464113
My kids are awesome. It's just her. Also, I get paid $3000 a month. Minimum alimony and child support would be $1700/mo.
$1300 a month is nothing.
>>678461303
Not surprised, well most women are retarded.
>>678464245
He won't lose the kids. He'll retain some form of fractional custody as is nigh universally the case if he seeks it.
>>678464471
>alimony
Does your wife not work?
What fucking year is it
>>678462888
But that's the thing: nobody is forcing you to get married. I for one, don't have any interest in getting married or having kids, and my partner knows this. I'm actually getting a vasectomy this year. Of course when you date you are exposed to shitty relationships, but then again everyone does. If anything, I've learnt how to be a less shitty person myself after all those fuck ups. So living an ascetic life does not make sense to me. It's equal to cowardice, to put the bandaid before the wound. It's just hiding because you "might" get hurt. So it doesn't make sense to me.
>>678464113
The scary thing is that if I leave, there's no way we can afford the house we have. I'll have to get an apartment with roomates (this is okay.) But my wife and kids would move back in with her mother.
My mother in law will turn my children into copies of herself. I can not let that happen. So I stay, for them.
>>678464471
Just bang broads on the side.
>>678464627
What part of 4 kids did you miss? Do you have any idea how much daycare costs for 4 kids?
>>678457265
Because it's not hard to find a woman with traditional values.
>That feel when she's good with kids and your dick tells you she is the one.
>>678459747
>>678459968
That's great!
>>678464838
Doesn't your child support just get split after one kid?
>>678464838
They're almost certainly not ALL of a daycare-demanding age.
By the time I was, what, 12? I just took the bus home from school and walked in my front door.
>>678465084
5, 3, and 7 months. Twins.
>>678465189
Ouch, that sucks.
Also stop banging your damn wife without protection 3 months after she squeezed out the last kid.
Also also what are you griping about then? $1700/mo is already probably in excess of what you ACTUALLY spend, right now, to care for those little snotpiles, it's not like your situation changes if you have to cut the check to your wife rather than just buying the shit directly.
>>678465189
You realise that pregnancy takes 9 months, yes?
>>678457265
Because MGTOW is beta cucks who abandon women because "muh feminism".
They live lives without ever finding a good, healthy woman and without ever raising a strong, healthy family. They see jewish feminism and instead of being real men they cower in a corner like a 1st grader saying "girls have cooties".
MGTOW is for fucking degenerate cuckolds. Find yourself a good traditional woman and raise a strong, healthy family.
>>678465543
And they're all roughly two years apart.
>>678465543
Are you a fucking idiot?
5 yo
3 yo
7 months-twins(that means two)
>>678457697
There's not a "yourself" to be freed.
>>678465693
Ah, my bad. I thought you meant that they were 5 months, 3 months, and 7 months.
>>678464748
OP here. Again like a previous post I am happy for what you have and how you live your life. I choose to be alone and its a happiness and a comfort thay I can not explain in words. I just bring up subjects like unjust laws that only favor women. Relationships have changed so much today that even looking a woman in the eyes can be a pre rape ritual.
>>678464951
>>678465738
>5
>-2
>3
>-2
>1
> 1>7months
Are you fucking retarded?
>>678460202
Wow good read
>>678465635
>MGTOW is for fucking degenerate cuckolds
>Posts W40K.
lol.
Wait until we have fuck robots at home....women will realize they are worthless hahahaha....if the robot can make me a sandwich I am WIN
>>678465978
Twins means two. TWO children. Jesus learn some damn cognitive skills before posting online child
Please explain red pill and everything it's supposed to teach me.
"Men Going Their Own Way"
>>678457265
Because I'm not some butt hurt autistic who is pissed at all women.
>>678466061
What are you, some kind of heretic?
>>678457265
I tries too hard. Way too hard.
>>678461205
Am i the only one who doesn't hate to work?
>>678466539
>>/mlp/
because its the most retardedly beta concept i have witnessed unlike them im not afraid to admit no women wants me
>>678466629
>>>/gaschambers/
>>678458646
You're clearly a woman. Post your saggy tits!
>>678466618
No. I like it as well. Most people who jate work feel they are entitled to something better
>>678466455
Laugh now Cry later
>>678464754
jesus christ, are you me? seriously its like youre reading pages out of my life.
i feel you, brother. its not easy. consequently, this is exactly what drove my dad to a breakdown and become dependent on opiates to get thru the day. now he's a shell of a man and a laughing stock of the family....
all i can do is try to prevent this from becoming my future. leaving heirs who remember me fondly is the only part of me that will last beyond my life.
>>678462911
>>678462741
those guys^^
>>678463497
How so? What did you do to deserve that?
>>678457265
I go the other way I'm afraid.
>>678466832
Are you upset?
You seem upset.
>>678465635
This. Stated it perfectly.
MGTOW is for autistic manchildren who throw temper tantrums over feminism and then abandon their women.
They see an issue and instead of facing it they retreat into their shell, letting women and society get more cancerous and degenerate. Affronting devastating issues placating half of society is what men do. Retreating and hiding from them and essentially giving half of the world the "silent treatment" is for little baby girls. Absolutely pathetic.
MGTOW = cucks
Man up.
>>678467626
Amen bro my father is like yours. So sad yet I see I am not alone here. OP still here!
>>678457265
I was married once and I'll never do it again, but MGTOW is a retarded and gay label.
>>678457265
>/b/ros explain why you are not MGTOW yet.
11 days and I'm married. That's why, time. Lol
>>678468043
Always angry all the time.
>>678468297
>Memegenerator.
How's 9gag these days?
>>678468165
Also I dont see where all this dripping wet women are, begging for my shackled daddy dick.
I admit I do get looks from women more now than before but more in the way that they see something they wish they had... sometimes you can practically hear them screaming in their heads for a man like me.
LIKE me.... but not me.
They want a marriage and kids but they either cant find a man worthy of it or dont have a man period. That doesnt mean theyre salivating over my dick.
Let's see if i have understood this correctly
>MGTOW are just a bunch of guys that don't want to be manipulated by the women through sex
>So they decide don't having any relationship with women
>people laughs at them and call them virgins
is this correct? did i miss something?
>>678462741
>>678463022
>>678462911
>>678463278
>>678463497
>Brother you are a woman's decision away from losing everything....think about it that way.
That's allmost frightening, but i was there.
>divorced last year, kept the house, lost my wife.
>7years of fucking great relationship ended, she wanted to come back after fucky anothy
>howaboutno.jpg
going my own way since
>rising my standards after each girl i get
>>678457939
>i love sex
Implying you've ever had anyform of female contact
>>678468442
this is a total crap shoot. you got lucky. your woman was just slow to act and probably didnt consider every option she had at her disposal to completely fuck you over.
would not risk.
>>678468094
Another point of view clouded by pride. We fight for what is right. Have you seen the divorce laws in America? Who do they support? Who is being killed more in our country men or women? You want to be left in the Titanic to go down while the rest (except children) get to live out of privelege?
To reject the idea of getting married, first it'd need to be plausible that I could get married.
>>678463650
Getting super horny and let's go to the park kids in same sentence without realising this is b lololol
>>678468367
You tell me, 9faggot.
>let me keep derailing the conversation by never addressing the guys initial points and instead autistically flinging shit at him
Because I don't even know what it is
>>678459968
This is SO FUCKING TRUE.
Whoever made that one up must have gone through the same shit I did.
Damn..
>>678468599
>went in stealth mode
>shitstorm cunty revelation about said cunty came after papers where done.
>>678458646
women without children continue to get rarer and rarer the further over 27 you get. And I'm not raising some other motherfuckers kids because he's a fuck up. That and the women without kids over 30, there's usually a good reason.
I can think of just 3 women on my facebook over 30 without kids. One is my ex, one is a shift nurse (quite fuckable, sadly out of my league - possibly gay) the third is a social worker (7/10). All the rest are married with kids or confirmed lesbians.
>>678458646
Just if you still live w/ your parents.
>>678468414
Also fear of divorce
>>678468995
tell me more, wise sage.
>>678468414
ye, cuz faggots think u need to be in a relationship to get sex
>>678468669
Oh yes, that makes perfect sense.
Society unfairly benefits women.
Therefore we should all give up our women to Tyrone and instead of being strong men in their lives we should leave Hollywood and social media to social program them into being the whores that caused us problems in the first place.
No
Why should I try to get a girlfriend? I don't really see the point.
>>678469487
I assume hookers are your go-to then? pretty much the ultimate resignation to failure and cuckdom imo.
>>678469196
>>678469329
thanks
so...
>random guy decides to not have relationships with women
>he does not bother anyone, just lives his life the way he think it's correct
>people get butthurted
i don't get why i should care if a random dude decides to not have relationships. It does not affect me
Listen, Faggits. These guys are trying to spare you a whole lotta pain.
Every dude I grew up with, or hang out with is Divorced at least once - some twice. To a man, every one got fucked over by their ex wives. Some get to see their kids ONE WEEKEND a month, and pay the bitch of an ex wife for the privilege WHILE she has a live-in boyfriend fucking her in the bed that my friends bought, in a house they pay for.
This isn't made up basement-dweller horror stories, this is what really happens in today's legal system. Men are treated by judges and the courts like shit - like the only thing we are good for is making money to hand over like a fucking ATM to our ex wives.
I'll tell you this much - "Men Going Their Own Way" might be just a meme for the lulz, but there is some real truth behind it. No dude I know ever plans on getting married again. Fuck That.
>>678469682
STOP BEING RATIONAL GODDAMNIT
>>678469853
there are horrible parasites in this world and there are genuine, loyal partners.
90% of women are somewhere in the middle. would you gamble everything on just one extreme? id rather have hope for the best but plan for the worst. that motto has gotten me the farthest in my marriage.
>>678469682
It's not exactly healthy (not something to kill them over either, just call them out for being cucks).
MGTOW is very selfish. It's basically giving women the silent treatment.
Do that and women will get sex from somewhere else and suddenly her life will be shaped by Tyrone, Chad Thundercock, and whatever feminist nonsense her whore friends and media force-feed her.
The solution to feminism is for men to be proactive and to be men. This also means you raise a new family, a next generation, pass on your bloodline... and if you have any girls you can raise them and teach them to be respectable, fine women.
That's why I say that little girls run from their issues.
Men solve them.
>>678469682
Well the problem is the same with the difference between a gay man and a faggot.
A gay man wouldn't be noticed as he would simply act like a normal human beeing. - If you want to be alone for the rest of your life - cool - your family will see you as a biological failure, but everyone else won't care.
And then there are faggots who parade arround town with dildos strapped to their body because they can. - If you want to be alone for the rest of your life and want everyone to know you're an obnoxious piece of shit who deserves every little bit of hate you get.
Also why would anyone think it's a good idea to give this a name?
>>678469256
>i'm not feeling loved enough, it could be anyone 8/10 or more you wouldn't mind, you don't love me
>i want my own place, daddy could you give me money?
>omagad need so much money, never knew pole dancing paid so much
>omagad, husband is going for another girl, better come back
>noooo husband don't want me back, better keep my relationship i just cheated with during husband meeting
>haha husband got a girl, keep sexting him is great
>>678457265
I am a gamma.
So, fuck off.
And we can thank Feminism for this wonderful era where good men are abused, and children are used as pawns by bitches with zero conscience.
Someone above mentioned giving up women to "Tyrone" - I say let the Nig Nogs have them. If a bitch thinks she's going to get a free ride from a Nig, she's got another think coming.
I use women for sex now, and companionship on my own terms. If I don't want to be around one, I do what I want. I don't let myself get wrapped around the axle around any female. Been there, done that.
And /b/ro's, if you can't get laid on a regular basis in today's world, then you must be a neckbeard or fucking gross. Hit the gym, lose some weight, subscribe the the Trunk Club to get some decent threads, and then Tinder yourself to happiness.
Protip: This ain't no B.S.
>>678470326
wtf is a gamma? if its another word for asexual, why did we need a new name for it? ffs
>>678470134
I do not share this ideology. I think all of us need sex partners, lovers, etc..., but as long as they do not harass other people or start bitching about how bad society is i don't care
Also this guy >>678470237
>your family will see you as a biological failure, but everyone else won't care
so much truth in one simple sentence
>>678470134
No. Listen here marriage shill, goldstein. The best course of action is for our generation to take one for the team and sit on the sidelines. After a generation of single mothers, thanks to your immasculating stereotype black man, kids will grow up and realize they dont want their children to go through that. By being "proactive" as you say, nothing will get accomplished because the law favors women heavily, so it is a moot point. Unless you are a lawyer, the best course of action, is to let the single mother generation grow up in a shitty situation.
>>678457265
i want a son
>>678470445
yep, this era is about horizontal dancing.
>>678457265
"Real men" can make up their own minds and not be pressured by shitty memes.
Are you happy I took the bait?
>>678470600
i have 3. all of them hate everything i like and have no interest in anything i am good at. theyre literally like strangers. tenants in my house. the only person who shows genuine interest in any part of my life is my daughter.
go figure.
gonna raise her not to be one of these sjw camouflaged lebos
>>678470134
women r very selfish. Men finally start to notice and stop playin along.
Do that, and ull get more ass than a toilet seat.
coz u loss freedom and the girls are too selfish for my taste
>>678470739
that's because they are boys. you have to act opposite of how you want them to be.
It blows me away how many single-mom's there are out there. It's like none of the sex-ed for the last 30 years has made it through women's brains. Free birth control, free advice, free abortions, whatever. Bitches just want to have a bay-bay, etc... And (of course) the father is no where to be found, and these bitches now want to find a man to "be a father" to their kid, and pay for everything on top of that.
No wonder men today don't want commitment. Cleaning up a bitches mess is not what your life is supposed to be about.
i think you all think way toomuch about all this.
in the end it's just chemicals in your brain that let you fall in love want sex and all that.
there is nothing natural about marriage
feminism and the left laws destroying the society
>>678470925
Ahh a fellow online dating profile haver.
>>678470989
muh society
muh freedom
>>678470955
marriage is a social construct. Its an union to let every1 else know, that these ppl r not available on the matrimonial market and that they will stay in the union for the sake of their children
>>678470903
thing is i dont know how far to take it. my dad had absolutely ZERO interest in me or whether or not i was alive. ive run the entire spectrum of involvement with them and i cant seem to find the sweet spot.
>>678469853
I'm in the process of a divorce, I'm lucky in three ways though: 1. we split up amicably, my parents own the house we lived in so she moved (parents live 25 miles away). 2. Australia doesn't do ailamony 3. no kids, thank fuck.
>>678457265
I am, I left her with the fucking stupid ass bills and debt that I spent so much time chipping away. I was working on myself as well as trying to start my own business but I gotta put all that shit aside so I can build myself back up again. I worked hard all my life and she's been given everything all her life. I felt bad at first for leaving her with all that debt and shit but she's got like at least £30,000 inheritance so it's all sorted. Guys you gotta realise some chicks aint gonna be happy cause they want other people or things to make them happy and they spend their whole lives 'hunting' for the right guy to marry but in reality their just a predator for disaster.
>>678463278
Are you from the future? It's not May yet...
>>678471135
and thats bullshit.
back in the good'ol days people walked around in the world in groups with 20 -30 people
everybody raised them everyone was free for fun stuff.
Thats the way nature intended it for us
If man can stop their need of sex they will control the relations another time.
>>678457623
>not a beta faggot
>posts weeaboo material
dig a hole and lie in it forever buddy.
>>678471278
>being this european
>>678466618
I dont mind it tbh, Im bored half the time Im not working
>>678471278
Fuck off
>>678471292
>implying we can do this
>i smell feminist theroy
>>678471287
thats not true. Humans go quality over quantity. We r more like birds. Birds form large flocks, but join in pairs to have offspring.
Just get a vasectomy and dont get married, ez
>when you fuckin a new girl and she gets pregnant
>lol your going to be a daddy
nah bish kek
>>678471489
we have proof that man back in the stoneage didn't have anything like marriage they fucked and everyone was responsible for the offspring of a couple
>>678471225
Good on ya, mate!
The thing is, I wouldn't have my kids if it wasn't for my ex wife, so I'm grateful for that - wouldn't trade them for the world - but the cheating bitch STILL gets paid by me and I have them 80% of the time (she's pretty busy going to the Bahama's with her boyfriend and all...).
So, on the one hand, I guess it's just that if you want kids, be prepared to pay whatever woman makes them for you $$ for 18 years, and on the other hand, try to enjoy your kids since you're paying more for them than a Porsche... kek.
>>678471489
>>678471578
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WLrM8wx6Bk here's the proof
>>678471612
post pics
>>678457265
Nothing more beta than being an evolutionary dead end. That said, donate to a sperm bank a few times and you're set to live however you want.
>>678470568
>calling me a shill
>ignoring the fact that without strong men actively shaping their views, women will get their groupthink from whore friends, degenerate males, marxists in college, and jew media
>failing to realize that Goldstein likes MGTOW because it emasculates white men and removes them from the breeding pool
Either you didn't think anything through or you're a really stupid kike, mate.
Again. Men running and hiding from their issues lets the issues take over, like a scourge or invasion.
Rising up and defeating issues is what real men do. That is the solution to feminism that MGTOW cucks and jewish shills will never talk or let you hear about.
Traditionalism ftw.
femnism and mgtow are the same
jewish war on family
>jewish war on family
jewish war on family
>jewish war on family
jewish war on family
>jewish war on family
jewish war on family
>jewish war on family
>>678471729
shit no
woman can sue you to pay for the children if you spend sperm
don't do this
a gay man has to pay for 3 kids or so because he donated.
>>678471752
this man speaks the truth.
>>678471459
no, I'm a right wing man. I'm saying that we need to say no to sex, if we don't control the relation.
>>678471578
show it to me
>>678462273
oh shit nigga... you are me!
>>678471757
liberal media shit
>>678471880
i did
watch the yt vid
>>678470742
I'm not looking to fornicate, I'm looking to raise a family.
I'm not looking to fuck a lot of girls, I'm looking to stop them from being whores and Make Women Great Again (TM).
And in particular have a beautiful wife.
>>678471830
Then why do sperm banks exist? If this isn't some kind of bait, that's fucking stupid. I guess just knock up a chick and move out of shit country.
>>678457265
Because i have a choice not to, and i like tits.
>>678471857
so a woman and a man are both on a island
what do you think will happen when both use sex to blackmail the other.
>>678471988
http://wthitv.com/2015/09/05/kansas-sperm-donor-fights-back-after-state-forces-him-to-pay-child-support/
Traditionalism is dead. I understand most guys who bash on MGTOW are young and have'nt gone through what many of us have.
All the traditional things that a man can do to control a relation are banned, removed or illegal.
All the shit that girls can do to control a man are legal, normalized and right to society eyes.
>>678470460
Gamma is neither leader or follower.
There are also deltas.
The world is not just A or not-A.
>>678470134
>MGTOW is very selfish
How the fuck is a bunch of guys saying they don't want a relationship with a women selfish?
they're doing the equivalent of saying "nah I don't want that piece of cake in the fridge, someone else can have it instead".
The only difference between the cake and marriage is that if you put the cake down after you take a bite and decide you don't like it, you don't lose half your shit.
>It's basically giving women the silent treatment.
You do realize that people who are MGTOW still talk to women right? and that they pick up women at bars? and that they still speak to their female co-workers? and that they still speak to their mothers?
they aren't giving women the silent treatment, they are just saying they don't want a relationship with women because they don't want to risk their futures on the off chance that they might end up slightly happier than they are now.
Also if "Tyrone" or "Chad Thundercock" ends up with that women, then she's clearly not smart enough to make decent life decisions and will probably drag you down with her into the pit of poor life decisions.
>>678457265
ITT: Men who had a relationship go bad, and instead of figuring out how they fucked up their mate selection they blame generalities ("women", "society", "culture", etc).
What a "real man" does is find the fucking problem and fix it, not be an emo coward.
>>678471612
Good god you sound like one miserable bastard.
>>678457265
Carry on MGTOW brothers. More pussy for the rest of us.
>>678457265
>go my own way
So where do we learn to fuck dudes in the ass and accept homosexuality into our lives?
>>678457265
>>678459747
>>678459968
>>678460580
>>678461486
>>678462888
>>678462911
>>678468414
>>678468599
>>678470568
You people have literally no relationship experience, or you are extremely terrible at picking women. You reap what you sow, pick a really hot women out of your league who shows you some read flags? She's going to leave you eventually.
To think you are "empowering" yourself by actively deciding not to find someone you can be happy with for the rest of your life because you are too worried about being hurt is about the most sad/pathetic/unempowering thing I've read for "men's rights".
God speed faggots.
I had this conversation with a woman I'm fucking last night. Of course, she is taking the side that men should commit when they "meet the right woman" - which is code for "me".
I explained to her that women have destroyed marriage and the nuclear family on the altar of Feminism.
She disagreed, and I still fucked the shit out of her and sent her on her way this morning. My balls, and my wallet both thanked me.
>>678472017
That the woman accept her position when the mother insctints appear.
If we say NO to that present state of things, all the shit we are eating will be removed. For this reason we need to control our sex relations. I'm atheist
>>678472165
just you wait... it's gonna be so much fun looking at those cucks getting their asses handed to them
>>678472386
upvoted.
>>678472460
>implying you get any
>>678472386
Sums up this threat perfectly.
>>678457265
Actually, I am. Of course that's why I'll never be married!
>>678472165
>>678472214
Traditionalism doesn't mean you beat your woman like some sandnigger.
Call it traditionalism or not, there's a reason traditional roles work and why only now with men being afraid of stepping into traditional roles do women reach an all-time low.
>>678472498
faggot, do you have even read my post before shitposting?
>>678468414
>>678472500
You are a hero.
>>678472664
if the problem is the woman, he solves the problem and then is called out for toxic masculinity. Get the fuck back to tumblr kid
>>678472165
You are a pathetic faggot who thinks your the only one who has had a relationship go south. Is it really so hard for you to accept that the majority of men don't give up like you when that happens?
>>678471934
no sources cited. Your argument is invalid
>>678471936
ull get used and abused. And thats not our problem
>>678462609
It's not like that, just that I'm not playing that game when I know that I will end up losing anyways, you have to understand how things are right now, you can't trust a girl.
>>678472498
Fucking Kek.
Come back in 20 years with that "live happily ever after" bullshit. It doesn't happen. Women today are every bit as bad as men in the 1950's. They fuck who they want when they want and know that they can have everything in the marriage, including the kids, and their ex will have to pay.
Men today need to be extra careful and not let "muh dick" make decisions for them. Can't blame older dudes from trying to assist the younger ones not make the same mistakes.
But rock on, funky bro.
>>678471135
my ex still wears her wedding ring sometimes because she gets hit on by weirdos a lot less with it on. Much to her initial surprise.
>>678465635
>>678468094
>>678471752
pretty much these...
MGTOW is cringe as fuck m8
>>678472903
implying you need sauce for that
>>678463796
This is a bad idea
>>678472822
And you give a shit about being "called out" because why?
There have always been noisy idiots. The only thing different these days is people listen to them.
>>678472970
u do
>>678472924
exactly
>>678472918
Been together with my wife for 10 years cucklord. You sound exactly like the type of person I'm calling out. You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about, or you pick women like a retard picks a booger (whatever happens to be there, is easy to pick and looks good to eat.)
so much tumblr in this thread...
The first thing that we need to fix is the feminist laws.
Second thing is to take the control of our need of sex. Fuck only wirh girls that we can control and dominate.
I'm in a happy relationship
MGTOW's, like Feminists are really punchable.
when ever you hear either of them speak you just want to give them a good kickin'.
>faggots who give up after a bad relationship are faggots
>faggots who are proud of never having had a relationship are faggots
>faggots who bow at the altar of mens rights are faggots as much as any sjw
>faggots who subscribe to one way of thinking are faggots
>faggots who subscribe to someone else's way of thinking are faggots.
being a man means making tough choices and dealing with them not running away, cowering in the corner while calling it pride or empowerment. thats for sjw cucks and pussies.
>>678465635
Why are you this upset over an imaginary label
>can't get pussy
>no I swear guys it's totally intentional.
>>678473043
they first "brand" you, they categorize you, and then they find ways of messing with your life. If you literally can't understand this and would rather go "who gives a shit if I get called out" your views are very superficial and could (watch how I don't say will) get you into trouble in the future. I'd rather be less carefree now and not have to spend effort, time, and money, fixing oversized problems later.
>>678472822
The fuck you talkin about. This MGTOW label is about as tumblr as you can get.
>>678465635
>Find yourself a good traditional woman and raise a strong, healthy family.
nah the cuck is ya
I'd actually like being with the woman I love for life
And starting a family
If it's not appealing to you, then don't do it
Stick to your guns it's all good
>>678473064
Ok, I can't argue with your statement that I "pick women like a retard picks a booger" because I actually think you got a point there...
But, you come back in a couple years when you find your little missy sucking some pimply faced skateboarder's cock while you're at work.
Ten years ain't shit, dude. Waaaaiit for it.... Waaaait for it... Around 36 to 45 women have their own mid-life crisis. BOOM. Your all-loving-wonderful-sweet wifey will be hom-noming on some strange dick, leaving you to cry out to God "whyyyyyyyy!!!???"
Kek.
>>678473188
THIS.
Being a man sucks, but I wouldn't trade it for anything. I like being single for a while, but relationships are worth it, if you're willing to get out of a bad one early and stay in the ones that are worth it. Good Relationships mean work and compromiise but are also rewarding.
>>678457265
"i love being a castrated sexless cuck"
>my virginity is intentional
kek
>>678473360
tumblr shoves shit down your throat or labels you as invalid. I m not following MGTOW (sometimes even against it) and was never called anything. Kinda makes a difference. To tumblr with you.
>>678472382
It's selfish because you recognize a problem that plagues half of society and do nothing to solve it. MGTOW is halfway there, they see feminism for the utter bullshit that it is.
But then, again, they just take it as an opportunity to turn away from relationships and live their lives as hedonists instead of setting a high standard and fulfilling their duty as men.
Yes, it's a terrible deal. That's why we fix it instead of removing ourselves from the gene pool.
>Taking the silent treatment analogy literally
It was never meant to be literal, obviously lots of MGTOW's aren't betas and go around fucking women.
What does that accomplish? You have one-night stands until you're fifty and then have contributed nothing, have no family and no kids to contribute to the next generation?
By retreating you're just giving ground to whatever jews, harpies, commies degenerates, etc that force this bullshit in the first place.
>>678473138
who is i ?
i is science
>>678473563
women choose to do something to society, let women fucking solve it. I am so sick and tired of them throwing fits about imaginary fucking issues they think they have because of their choices. Fuck you; you made the choice, deal with the fucking consequences.
>>678465635
>>678468094
and ruin your life when she decides you're no longer useful to her so she takes EVERYTHING from you as you see how ALL your hardwork is destroyed by woman decision.
your own children will hate you forever and love another man 20 times more than you, no matter what you did and do for them.
you sure are a disappointment, thinking you can outsmart a woman by playing in her game, if you don't play in her games then is obvious you will win the game.
>>678473563
simply having a view on an issue doesnt mean youre helping to solve anything. thats tumblr level thinking.
>mental activism
>>678460114
That's honestly not what the movement is about. It's about making the choice to live your life how you see fit, not in the way society dictates that you should. Instead of choosing to hook yourself to some SAHM and a bunch of crib midgets, you could choose to do something else. That's all. Ultimately, its about not feeling bad about not wanting a traditional life.
>>678473489
The "kek" really stops me from taking you seriously
>>678472386
Said it in much simpler terms than I have been, your second line sums it up perfectly. Little girly men.
>>678458634
>kissless virgin detected.
what you described is exactly mgtow.
>>678473776
fucking finally
>how to not be a cuck
>>678473795
Meh. It's just my way. I'd "lol" but that is soooo AOL 1.0.
>>678473776
why do you need a label for it then? propping up your views with some tumblr-esque label is fucking retarded sjw shit.
>>678471371
Same here.
>>678473536
Except you are basically saying
>YOU ARE SHOVING YOUR OPINION DOWN MYTHROAT
>I don't like to use labels and I didn't realize my thought had a label till now, so now I'll say "but MUH' MGTOW RIGHTS!" from now on.
About the most tumblrina sentiments you can have fagbag.
>be lonely and on tinder
>booty call at 3am
>she's average, smoking body but manish face
>fuck her brains out 5 minutes after meeting her
>keeps trying to come over, i try to break it off really gently and tell her i'm leaving town
>month of silence
>text messege from her of a pos pregnancy test
>call her up and talk about it
>tell her plenty of people raise kids separately, we don't know each other very well, lets be friends first and go from there, for this kid.
>shes "fine with it"
>see her every now and then, go to all appointments with her
>doctors and nurses treat me like shit, i have no idea why, we dont openly discuss this shit
>everything seems to be fine with her, no big issues
>6 months into pregnancy, i go see a doc over a throat infection and start talking about the pregnancy with this doc
>doc feels bad for me and clears her next few appointments, she talks to me for nearly 2 hours about how i'm about to get destroyed by this woman
>i kinda play it off as if its not a big deal and it'll work out.
>one day she sends me a text message about how she was almost kicked by a calf at work
>i get mad and tell her to stop risking herself by doing dangerous shit at work
>flood gates opened. she relentlessly hammered me on everything. calling me a pussy and all sorts of shit for not marrying her. it went on and on, i just shut my mouth and let it go.
>dont talk to her for a week so she can calm down.
>call her, "WHY HAVENT YOU CALLED ME"
>she abuses me again for an hour. i tell her i know shes pregnant and hormonal but i'm not gonna be abused like this. fuck off and call me when you grow up
>she makes a big post on facebook about people telling her she's doing the wrong thing at work
>20000000 likes and all her family and friends are calling me out, saying they're gonna come visit me with shotguns and shove pineapples up my ass. wtf.
>block all these random redneck cunts and go on with my life. call her up and tell her any sort of relationship is off
>>678473962
usually the ones asking why a label is need are the ones labeling what they see. just like the people whom are easily offended daily, are the some of the most offensive people on the planet.
truth.
It's pathetic isn't it? Women have nearly an absolute control over us, they can get away with everything.
what MGTOW needs it's to learn how to outsmart a woman and get away with it.
right now, every single male needs to be sharp minded and smart, to be able to survive life.
Simply be smarter than her.
>>678473929
Aside from the ending this is literally all you have to do to have a successful relationship. If the wife bitches, you put her in her place. You don't have to treat her like shit you just need to make sure she never thinks she is better than you.
>>678474235
dna testing
>>678474235
thanks for thoroughly informing us of what a fucking idiot you are
fuck sake is this real life?
>>678474319
>I am a kissless virgin or have horrible taste in women.
We know anon, you can stop telling us.
>>678458294
Probably because we work more. Most of us get engaged and put the marriage on hold until we have the free time to do it. We work more than most Europe.
>>678473733
children almost never like their step parents more than their real parents.
>>678474235
>she cries and begs me, tells me she loves me.
>i dont relent, i dont want these fucking rednecks in my life at all. its gonna be hard enough raising a son with her.
>she orders a dvo on me, which is a domestic violence order. i live over 300km from her and she says i've been throwing rocks at her house or some shit.
>obviously the police believe her, and im stuck with this dvo which means i cant work, i have a specific licence for my job and a dvo voids it.
>contact legal aid since i cant afford a lawyer with no work, try to organise mediation so i can meet my son when he's born etc.
>law is all on her side. when and if i do meet my son it'll be under supervision in a government run facility. i'll be watched by some fucking person and her while im with the kid.
>i'll be forced to pay child support regardless of any visitation rights. and i have zero choice with how the child is raised. if she wants to send him to catholic boarding school, i have no say.
>if i want the paternity test it'll cost me $900.
>dvo still in effect. get a job as a manual laborer, less than 1/4 of what i used to earn. slowly sell all my assets and get rid of my bills. cancel everything, including gym membership so i can save money.
i have no faith in women anymore. i know i made a mistake by fucking her, but jesus christ my biggest fault was trusting another human being to have common fucking sense. my son was born on the 25th of February and i still haven't seen him.
been single for 2 months after a shitty 3yr relationship after finding out she was a cheating slut. it's very freeing telling girls you never want to move in and marry them, or even commit to them unless you have a kid which isn't likely. and then noticing they actually like that attitude.
>>678473563
>It's selfish because you recognize a problem that plagues half of society and do nothing to solve it.
I've seen quite a few MGTOW people protesting for men's rights, the only reason why it can't solve anything is because the movement isn't that big.
They DO recognize the problem and ATTEMPT to solve it however because of the lack of assistance they can't do anything, and people like you who shit on their work only soil their image and make their work stand for nothing.
>What does that accomplish? You have one-night stands until you're fifty and then have contributed nothing, have no family and no kids to contribute to the next generation?
So your definition of a contribution to society is stunted at family and children? wow you are really fucking short sighted.
These people could be musicians, scientists, mathematicians, lawyers, or pretty much anything under the sun. Granted that they probably work office jobs and are low level managers or some shit, but that is still a contribution of some level and no amount of your mental back flips can change that.
These people pay their taxes and work, they contribute to society; end of story.
>>678474788
do the test, nigger
>>678474514
more like horrible taste in women, last one did a shitstorm with accusing me that I raped her and nearly succeed in doing so, if it wasn't for the security cameras, I would have ended up in jail.
>>678474425
of course.
>>678474472
meh. maybe if you left your basement and had a chop at real life, you'd find out the hard way that humans do stupid things when they're horny/lonely/drunk/depressed.
sometimes those things bite them in the ass. im not blaming anyone here. i'm trying to highlight how my experience showed me that the system is very much swayed towards supporting women, not men.
>>678473705
That kind of thinking is what lets women groupthink feminism and spiral us down into this nonsense in the first place.
Women can't think for themselves nine times out of ten, that is why men have always been the leaders of society. We are abstract thinkers and naturally developed to fill leadership roles It sounds pathetic, but they have to be treated like children because that is very close to how they think and act, regardless of how intelligent or not they are. Hence why it is so vital that men step up for the women and lead. Bring back traditional roles (and remove women's suffrage while we're at it).
>>678473743
Yes, what you stated is exactly why MGTOW will never get anywhere in terms of stopping feminism.
>You refuted your own stance with your own rhetoric
>>678473733
Yes, I am well aware that the deal men get in the modern age is terrible. I acknowledge that.
Your fear of stronk empowered wymin shouldn't magically turn you into a baby cuck fleeing marriage and relationships either. That is why it is imperative that men step up and be men. It is that simple. Step up, be a man, find a good woman (yes, they actually exist- if you can't find one, get a younger girl (~18-22, get to her before the marxists and feminist groupthink get to her) and shape her into one).
>>678462371
No, not everyone needs this.
>>678474788
Reap what you sow.
>>678474788
Damn this is really sad.. I honestly have no idea what to do in your situation besides kill that bitch
OP here! Awesome thread! I am glad to see we all have opinions even if we disagree. Just glad this went all out with a bang!
>>678474788
If I suddenly found myself being 20 again, knowing what I know now - I'd go have some sperm frozen, then get a vasectomy. I see young dudes getting roped in all the time these days by girls. Seems like a pretty shitty life-choice for the woman, but they seem to make that choice a lot - and it ruins the guy at the same time. All for what? 15 seconds of pleasure? Damn.
>>678473929
This.
Handle your woman properly and there will never be any issues to start with, because you can deal with them.
99.9% + of all live that has existed has lived a miserable existence just trying to procreate. We're in unprecedented times where we can actually understand our existence, break the mold and just live our lives to be free and enjoy shit. we have the means and information to live long happy lives through learning and expressing ourselves creatively, and fucking young women who are attracted to us. why tie yourself down by committing an emotional child who isn't even wired for monogamy.
if you think women are capable of actually loving you like your mother does, you might as well go join ISIS, cause that's the level of control and abuse you have to have over a women for unconditional love to be a real thing.
I have intentions of getting married and having a family. I intend to travel before all that, but I want to be a father one day.
>>678475425
>I have literally never had a stable, healthy relationship.
We know anon, we know.
>>678472386
You're going to fix the legal system. More power to you. You're going to fix a woman who just decides she's bored and wants half your income forever, and files a restraining order preventing you from seeing your kids as leverage. More power to you.
Many of these guys may well have grown up in a hone where this happened between their parents. Who can blame them.
>>678475425
All Women are Cunts.
Except my Mother.
(But my Father assures me that she definitely is...)
>>678475799
lol
>>678463340
So much this
>>678475605
keep drinking that kool-aid. remember this moment when your woman just turns on you for good.
