Independent Voter Thread. Come in and bash Libtards and Conservatards. They're both ruining our country.
Come on you fucking degenerates, I wanna hear you blow spit bubbles in an attempt to defend your shitty parties.
>>678349183
>Everyone is stupid but me
>I am different, therefore better
Enjoy being 16 newfriend
To be honest, the US version of democracy is fucked.
Then again, all democracy under a capitalist regime is fucked.
>>678349651
No, I don't think you're stupid. I think your political beliefs are. You may be a cool person who just so happens to vote for Berniecuck.
Also, why are people so proud of how long they've browsed this shithole? It's fucking stupid.
>>678348551
Honestly people enjoy the partisanship. It's saddening to think that people are unable to hold their own beliefs, instead they find a "party" that they share the most in common with and slurp down all the other shit that comes with it.
What's really important is that you're able to feel a snug sense of superiority over both parties.
The libertarians are fucking cancer too. Hurr fucking hurr taxes are theft, hurr I dont understand economics hurrr.
>>678349933
So what's your alternative, Anon? Socialism? The idea seems alluring, but if you're a hardworking person the idea of total redistribution of wealth is a terrible idea. The people of Germany and Russia have been oppressed far more than Americans have, under the guise of "democracy". But history speaks.....socialism, communism, and Marxism are literal failed experiments. Our own democratic republic could have only worked under an encompassing honesty ideologue. That's the issue with society. Most people are overtaken by greed and self adoration. But fascism isn't a solution to anything, Anon.
This happened at my school yesterday.
https://youtu.be/SJ50XmALd54
>Let her talk or I will fuck shit up
>We can find your information on the internet very easily
>Its illegal to film me in public if I tell you not to
>Wanna get fucked up by a faggot?
Probably one of the things holding political progress back the most is people getting too caught up in their party.
We'd see a lot of change in the country if people weren't so afraid to vote with their beliefs rather than the party more often. I hear all the time "conservatives this, liberals that" when it's not as if they're just two homogeneous groups that fall on either side of the line 100% of the time. How many bills could have been passed in the last 16 years if Congressmen had the balls to vote for what they want, instead of what their party leader masters wanted?
>>678350664
Fuck off Randall
>>678352860
>snapping intensifies
>>678349183
Who are you voting for?
>>678354110
Cruz. Only person there professional enough to run the country.
>>678354110
Probably Gary Johnson, if I had to take a guess
>>678354339
Oh god that's an awful decision
I have mostly pretty liberal political views (full-blooded berniefag) but I fucking loathe SJWs and their impact on modern left-wing politics so I don't know where that places me.
>>678354499
I think that I'd be okay with Bernie minus the shitty trade policy, and that my taxes would put me in a position where I can't afford to live in the city anymore
>>678354431
At least he isn't El Drumpf or #HillaryForPrison
>>678354839
I know... It's really just going to be a lost 4 years
I dont like trump but theres no better candidate.
>>678352860
Such a beautifully horrible thing it was to see and hear that part where they were proud to have shut down the assembly and promised to do it again should they try to assemble in the future.
>>678355626
I'll be there in person to stir the pot on both sides. Would be nice to incite a riot for /b/
>>678355590
if you are an economic conservative Cruz is the better choice than Trump.
I don't particularly like Cruz, he's a fundie wackjob that needs to keep his idea of god out of his politics, but he's a more rational small-government conservative than Trump.
Trumps economic plans are costly in both money and manpower, something which I'm pretty sure a small-government conservative wouldn't want.
>>678355590
Really? You'd vote for "CHINA 10 FEET TALLER #MAGA" over not voting?
Bump with funny Doggo.
>>678349933
>>678351796
>So what's your alternative, Anon? Socialism?
No, just removing money from democracy. The government is the enemy only to corporatism. The stupidest people in American have been trained to falsely believe America is not a democracy. It is the extension of the people.
Make corporations pay their taxes
Remove them from politics
Overturn Buckley v Valeo, McCutcheon and Citizens United
>The idea seems alluring, but if you're a hardworking person the idea of total redistribution of wealth is a terrible idea.
Why the extreme? Instead of the public sector controlling 10% of the economy but loaded with rent-seeking parasites (US), why not increase the public sector to 13%, everyone gets health care coverage, everyone gets an education. Healthy, educated American people make such good employees that the Trumps of the world don't have to import cheap-ass H1B visa job-stealers.
>The people of Germany and Russia have been oppressed far more than Americans have, under the guise of "democracy".
You have to know that Russia's transition to democracy was a free-for-all kleptocracy, right?
I admire the deontologist Germans for always trying to do the right thing even if it cost them a few extra Deutschmarks.
>But history speaks.....socialism, communism, and Marxism are literal failed experiments.
Uh, read a book? Russia went from the poorest feudal monarchy in Europe to America's only superpower rival in 50 years because of "Marxism" and "Socialism". And they had "free" health care and "free" education.
>Our own democratic republic could have only worked under an encompassing honesty ideologue.
Even the founding fathers had to hold their collective noses because the original Royal colonies were built on black slavery and white indentured slaves.
>But fascism isn't a solution to anything, Anon.
Fascism is a right-wing conservative philosophy, Anon.