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>ITT: we talk about why Bernie is objectively the superior candidate
>>678054791
It's not summer yet kid, go away.
>>678054999
Go suck Trump's dick, faggot
It's going to be so much fun watching the Hildog steal the nomination and watching you socialist fucks cry about it.
There's an AIDS Skrillex Cuckstep mix out there
Scary White Males and Nice Sprites
>>678054791
Can you show me a successful socialist society please. Key word. Successful.
>>678054791
He won't get the nomination.
You are retarded
Take your shit to /pol/
>>678054791
kill yourself
Return to reddit summerfag
>>678054791
>implying any true leftist cuck would come onto 4chan, the most triggering of triggering websites
>>678054791
Socialist bastard!
Fuck you socalist fight for 15 kikes
>>678054999
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>>678057450
>mfw not a post of support for the king of the cucks
I'm proud /b/!
automation is socialism one way or another
I stand by Bernie
I personally don't want to make money and would rather it go to those who need it more but don't want to work for it.
#feelthebern
>>678057181
Fuck those baby killing, queer loving, socialist, commie, gun hating, freedom ddestroying, constitution amending, mudslime pandering, white people hating, liberal fucktards.
>>678055897
The fucking entirety of the Scandinavian countries with a decent chunk of Europe mixed in.
Yup, there are other places besides besides America. Sorry if your meth and incest addled brain can't handle that
>>678057962
>>/pol/
>>678058206
So no, is what you said. Gotcha.
>>678057962
Agreed on all counts except for:
>queer loving
Even some of us homos are red pilled enough to know that leftism is a cancer that kills society.
>>678058206
Yea, but they also have high tax rates and serious budget issues.. also business are mainly small business based and taxed to fucking death. Also the gov. Is balls deep in anything everything. And they don't have a nigger ghetto issue.. Throw in a hundred million self entitled ghetto niggers and see what happens
Hey /b/, so did you just recently start supporting Bernie? What issue/issues in particular was it that convinced you to choose him? Plz respond.
ITT:
/b/ doesn't know how to do an politics
>>678058206
>>678058729
I am open minded, but the left takes this shit to a whole new level. I say live and let live, but the liberals force this shit on people to the point that it becomes untolerable
>>678054791
Im from Canada and am a staunch conservative.
If I lived there who would I vote for?
>>678058756
Rekt that socialist bastard's argument. Ronald Reagan would be proud.
>>678058729
But are you redpilled enough to know not to be a flaming faggot in public?
Also Sharpie in pooper
>>678055897
Finland, Norway, UK, France. Faggot
>>678057962
>>678057962
>"Fuck those... gun hating
> condition amending"
You do realize that the right to bear arms is also known as the 2nd amendment, right? Yeah, I'm sure you knew that.
>tfw you realize /b/ gets just as triggered and butthurt as the SJW's on tumblr
>tfw feeling the bern
>>678059240
Tell me about it... They're becoming like the thought police from 1984
>>678059423
Successful!
>>678059423
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_of_France
Try again.
>>678059367
Of course, I'm not flaming in the slightest. I can't stand faggoty homos. I just happen to like my boyfriend's thick cock in my rear.
>>678059423
>successful
kek
Seriously though, those are all market economies, not socialist as the means of production are all still privately owned. They're social democracies, not socialists.
>>678059679
>constitution amending*
Definitely not Sanders. Probably Trump or Cruz depending on your stance on immigrants. Trump's tax cuts are also more focused on the lower and middle class, where as Cruz is giving the >$250,000 bracket higher cuts and lower cuts to everyone else.
>>678059978
Yep, which is what the berninator is...
>>678059978
No duh, which is exactly what Bernie is trying to do. I thought your labelling of him as a socialist (instead of a democratic socialist) this entire time was due to willful ignorance and not just misinformation. He still advocates private private control of resources, and you can't find him claiming otherwise.
>>678059705
>realize /b/ gets just as triggered and butthurt as the SJW's on tum
/b/'s full of fucking morons who want to think they're cool. Are you new?
>>678060275
Stop plugging this worthless cuck. The only people that support Bernie are losers without real jobs or degrees. People that are too lazy to become anything and want the hard working to pay their bills.
>>678059679
Someone needs to tell the liberal asshats that. They whine about gun violence.. and want to ban guns, when there are exponentially more guns in every house in the south and Midwest and many many many many less gun related deaths in these areas than in the strict gun control states where there areally less weapons and many times more shootings?? Hmm mmm. Maybe it's a cultural thkng.. is there a common link, maybe race, social group, family values, upbringing? Raise.your kids and stop blaming guns for them being murderous thug pieces of shit
>>678059423
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_of_Finland
Not true. They are a republic.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_of_the_United_Kingdom
Monarchy
Not even wasting more time on you, you're 0/3, and obviously have no idea what is real or not.
>>678059034
[Citation needed]
Americans aren't poor because they are taxed too much, Americans are poor because of the generous tax loopholes that we afford the wealthy and corporations. The Panama Papers have proven that.
>>678060275
Are you fucking 13?
>>678059978
the hard truth is that capitalism isn't perfect and can balloon out of proportion with money, power, and corruption. That's why it needs to be regulated to hack at the rot that fucks it all up
>>678060625
This
>>678060625
Is it hard to type with all that dick in your mouth?
>>678060658
No, you see, it was the conservative poster who just proved that they didn't realize that the right to bear arms and the 2nd amendment were the same thing.
>>678060275
>>678060455
Then why does he claim to be a socialist?
Let me guess, you don't know how the government works, do you?
>>678060836
The citation is the last line of the jpg, genius.
That's not even my post, and I saw it.
Get plexiglass abs so you can see things with your head so far up your ass.
>voting in a racist Jew
>>678060836
>Americans are poor because of the generous tax loopholes that we afford the wealthy and corporations
>letting wealthy people keep their money makes me poor!
Explain.
ONLY SUPERIOR TO CLINTON NOT TRUMP FAGS.
>>678060893
We've never tried real free market capitalism.
>>678061266
>mfw I'm a poor white
>>678061266
Why not get your facts checked kid before shitposting
>>678060625
There is a flaw in the American way of thinking. 'I am who I am because of the choices I made', simply is primarily not true. It's about giving equal opportunity to everybody, regardless of their background.
Also if you think bernies campaign is about poor people you really need to think again. It's actually about the middle class and lack there of a middle class. It benefits everybody. Less people below the poverty line and into the middle class means a better economy and less crime.
But keep perpetuating your rat race while I live in a proper country that at least somewhat tries to level the playing field (not Eurofag).
Bernie Sanders is a communist who hates america.
>>678061549
Great, you typed up something in word.
That proves nothing.
Good job for someone so retarded, but that's proof of nothing.
>>678061549
Liar liar pants on fire, you omitted a sentence. He's stating his own opinion when he's saying "you don't know what it's like to be poor" Even the super left wing politifact agrees with me
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/mar/07/bernie-s/bernie-sanders-wrong-say-when-youre-white-you-dont/
>>678055265
Why do you faggots always assume that if we hate Bernie, then we must love Trump? None of the candidates are actually good.
Saying you support Bernie actually tells us all more than enough of what we would ever need to know about you. You must either not have a job, have a lame job, not have any real skills to contribute to society, be economically illiterate, or just some combination of the above.
>>678061549
That quote is wrong you nigger
See the video before talking shit out of your ass using a Facebook post that you found
>>678060625
Aren't you the worthless cuck sucking the dick of the 1%? The 1% who rigs the game against you. Please, keep thinking you can work your way up instead of endlessly having their cock shoved down your throat.
>>678060455
He most certainly doesn't, he calls himself a democratic socialist. The mainstream media are the ones who gave him the ill informed "socialist" label that you are using to refer to him.
Like Bernie said, he is no more of a socialist than was Republican president Ike Eisenhower, and he wants to return to the same tax percentage rates that he advocated for the rich all the way back then.
>>678061105
Jesus christ he doesn't. That's put on him. Have you ever watched any interview. Every single one I have seen he corrects them with 'democratic socialist'.
>>678060836
America could have just made a law that corporations operating out of "Tax Havens" (isle of mann, Panama, VI, etc) couldn't do business with a us based bank.
If you shut off access to US banks, you basically can't do international business.
America could have done that. Rich people write our laws via law firms.
>>678060798
They align with all of his ideals whether they call themselves democratic socialists or not.
Not wasting anymore time on you who can only think in labels
>>678062102
http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Columns/2016/01/26/Bernie-Sanders-Says-He-s-Democratic-Socialist-Here-s-What-Means
Retard.
>>678061940
I work in a great industry and have a broad skill set that continues to grow thanks to the company for which I work. I'm also 24, fresh out of grad school, and making 6 figures...
So please continue to tell me how I have absolutely no higher to climb.
>>678062308
>Words mean what I say they mean.
Reality is going to rape you, kiddo.
>>678061649
The flaw is when you create a system that over compensates for past wrongdoing by forcing companies to hire people who may not be the best candidate for.a.job based on skin color. Force companies and groups to diversify and destroy the synergy that they have built in the name of reperations. I'm all for diversity, when it makes sense. But don't let this rampant bandwagoning get out of hand and start labeling every white person and white owned company racist. Many white people have worked hard to build companies that they are seeing destroyed.by cultural enrichment.
>>678061897
>Why do you faggots always assume that if we hate Bernie, then we must love Trump?
Not the fag you're replying to but it's usually one or the other on 4chan.
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>>678061940
I'm from Canada, so I don't really care that much. I've just always been bothered by people who claim "I didn't have equal opportunity". Not everyone has equal opportunity, but EVERYONE can go to university or college. You may have to work harder in high school to get scholarships, take out a student loan, or work in the summer, but those options are all reasonable options that a lot of people take. The key is to pick a field that will land you a job that pays well. Don't get your bachelors in history and expect a $50,000 salary out of university.
>>678061392
Not quite. It's always been regulated to some point. However over the last 60 years that bar has been moved more and more towards deregulation. Don't believe me? Panama papers, bank collapse, bank fraud, no criminal punishment for banker fraud, ability to buy and rig elections, ability to charge what you want for prescription medication to the point where 1 in 5 can't afford the medicine they're prescribed. For fuck sake.
>>678054791
Bernie is our next president or America is fucked.
>>678062774
What the fuck are you talking about racism for? You've missed the point.
>>678061292
There is only so much wealth produced by a particular company. 30 years ago the percentage going to the CEO was related to the amount going to the laborer.
>>678062931
>Bank collapse
I assume you're referring to 2008? That was the direct result of legislation put forth in the early 90s that DID regulate the banks by forcing them to lower their lending standards. So your claim isn't totally accurate.
Hey you stupid pieces of human garbage. If you can take the time away from your little anime girls and read this. Maybe you can actually educate yourself. Then again you're the atheist.
>>678062931
Remove government entirely and those problems disappear. How? Free market will weed out bad actors. Company engages in fraud, they go bankrupt because no one will do business with them. No rich people can buy elections as there are no more elections. And prices for everything go way down thanks to competition.
>>678062792
I get that, and I agree with you. But still...you'd think people would be aware that the average, sane person wouldn't support either of those two bullshit-spewing lunatics.
>>678063292
So the higher ups pay themselves more. That's how reality works. Don't like it? Then you become the boss and set your pay nice and low. It's not the government's role to dictate how businesses are run.
Loves Niggas
>>678063344
Lies from the cuckmaster's own website. Why should I believe any of that?
>>678063344
>that's exactly how everything would happen
>>678063344
>32 Trillion health savings
The rest of this list is irrelevant. This accounts for ALL of the claimed savings.
And its wrong.
>>678061897
Guaranteed income is inevitable according to pretty much everyone on both sides of the aisle.
>>678063560
This. It's beyond me how a person who has any self-respect would be okay with the government stepping in and running their entire lives.
>>678063344
Because anyone who talks to other people like that, is wrong.
I won't vote for Bernie because he's backed by rabid hate filled violent lying idiots.
You're just proving it.
>>678063898
Guaranteed income under Bernie's plan? If that's what you're trying to say then yes, I agree...
at the expense of people who actually earn their money.
>>678063344
>Ensure wealthiest Americans contribute their fair share
The wealthiest already pay a shit ton more than anyone else for the same (if not less) services. They drive on the same roads as everyone else but have to pay more for them. They have the same parks as everyone but have to pay more for them. They're charged more for schooling for their children, yet most send their kids to private schools.
The wealthiest Americans are paying a lot more than their fair share. It's not their fault you don't make as much as them. Why should they pay for being more successful than you?
>>678063344
>>678063344
>Maybe you can actually educate yourself. Then again you're the atheist.
>equating religious belief with higher intelligence level
My sides are in orbit
>>678063898
~300 million people in the US
~$10k / year for each person
= $3 TRILLION / year
And pray tell, how is that to be paid for? Printing money? Like hyperinflation in Germany?
>>678054791
>we talk about why Bernie is objectively the superior candidate
nothing to talk about then.
/thread
>>678059270
Ted Cruz
>>678063927
The common leftist thinks very irrationally compared to us rational folks. They use emotion and no reason, the ol' "FEELZ > REALZ". They honestly think big government knows best. Point to North Korea and they flip out saying "that's not REAL communism!1111!!111"
>>678063933
Panama papers is just one example of how these poor underdogs of the 1% keep most of their money.
>>678062691
Ever heard of the phrase, 'actions speak louder than words'?
>>678061512
>poor white
>with internet access
>with computer
>>678054791
I'm actually rather impressed with how he is doing. I liked him but I never really thought he had a chance.
If he can win 56 to 43 in NY, like he just did in WI, he really will have a shot at making it.
Of course, the reason he's the superior candidate is quite clear: Better chance against all the possible republican candidates in the polls than shrillery
>>678064184
Yea, but the dindunuffins cry because they babeez go to a school that isn't as nice as themuch white kids. Completely ignoring the fact that " them white kids" parents paid far far far more in taxes in those communities to fund the schools.. amd the kids, for the most.part, respect.and benefit from the opportunity. Rather than use thw schools as a hangout to sling dope and fuck in the toilets.
>>678064685
"Poor" nowadays means living below the poverty line. How do you define poor?
>>678062891
Average cost of university in USA is twice the cost of Canadian universities.
>>678064143
If those people hoarded cats, newspapers, stamps like they do money, you'd call the police.
>>678065103
See that's the thing about freedom. We have the freedom to hoard money if we want. I don't have the slightest issue with super rich people have more money than they could ever possibly spend; it actually gives me some goals to shoot for. Off to a good start.
![z9w0KdW[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ov6Xjk9.jpg "z9w0KdW[1].jpg")
>>678064184
I think they're referring to the individuals and companies who hide their money and pay tax to tax havens, instead of where the money was actually made.
So no, the ones who do that do not pay their fair share of tax..
>>678065038
How many people you hear about going to Canada for the great education. Aye. What's the name of the great ivy league schools up there again? Shut the fuck up hoser!
>>678064617
Yes.
That's why I took the time to disprove your bullshit post, and posted links to show that you are wrong.
Those are actions, that speak louder than your lies.
>>678065438
I want to believe this is real
>>678064184
>The wealthiest Americans are paying a lot more than their fair share. It's not their fault you don't make as much as them. Why should they pay for being more successful than you?
If they are paying their fair share then why is wealth inequality out of control?
>>678060798
>Not even wasting more time on you, you're 0/3, and obviously have no idea what is real or not.
>"I WIN THE ARGUMENT!"
Danth's law has been invoked.
>>678064184
Because the same people argue for a flat tax because it benefits them and not the other person. They just mad they lazy, unskilled, uneducated, and/or too poor to understand.
>>678065438
links to feminist website on /b/.
good luck with that
>>678065536
The countries you listed all have the policies the berninator is talking about. Their actions speak louder than your words
>>678065631
>missing the joke that they advertise it as a good thing
>>678065409
I know right.. like we should be ashamed of success in this country. The liberals have created a culture that says that we should feel guilty if we work hard and succeed. That we should say oh shot.. I'm sorry I had ambition and worked hard.. here crackhead whore with 19 kids.. take some of this money I made .. sorry about that
>daily reminder that "free shit" ain't free, nor is it constitutional
>>678065594
Wealth inequality is caused by a surplus of personnel who either aren't skilled in useful labor, or are only skilled in labor that is not very profitable.
There is nothing fair about having to shell out almost half of your fortune that you built just because it hurts peoples' feelings that you made so much money.
>>678065601
Everything he said was an outright lie.
That's not an argument, moron, it's disproving a liar.
I posted links, but an idiot like you probably doesn't care much for truth.
Donald Trump 2016
Can you feel it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PR37xKxQ3UU
>>678065907
Well these are the same people that hate their own race for being successful, hate their own society for having rights other societies don't have, etc.
>>678065764
You listed them as socialist countries.
They aren't.
Come back when you want to talk about reality.
>>678058756
Throw in the migrant mudslime issues and they suck
>>678065453
>How many people you hear about going to Canada for the great education. Aye. What's the name of the great ivy league schools up there again? Shut the fuck up hoser!
University of Toronto is ranked 24th in the world.
>>678065907
Not even crackhead whores, dude. It's a bunch of liberal art major, wannabe sophist losers who are pissed that they have a ton of student loan debt and can't get a job that pays over 60K a year. And their poor choices are somehow everyone's fault but their own.
>>678065928
You do realise that you have to pay for your own health care right? You realise that if the government pays for your health care then you don't have to right?
Americas health care is a bloated wasted expense. Single payer health care that can negotiate properly the the medical industry is a much cheaper and effective solution.
But you know, you could just continue being happy paying too much for a shitty service.
>everyone gets better at arguing their position
>there is no concession on either side
>there is no point in these debates
>all of you are faggots with no control over the direction of the country
>>678065998
Angry I called you out on prematurely declaring victory? I want to taste your tears.
>>678065594
gotta spend money to make money. And they have money.
By your terms if wealth was "equally in control" everyone would have the same amount and there would be no wealthy? And it's that person's wealth, why should they disperse it?
>>678066386
This.
>>678066298
>You do realise that you have to pay for your own health care right?
Or private insurance pays.
>You realise that if the government pays for your health care then you don't have to right?
Using other people's money. That's theft and that's immoral. If I were rich, I'd be pretty resentful that I had to pay for some homeless bum's new liver due to his poor lifestyle choices.
>>678054791
He literally has no idea how to do the things he is doing...he admitted it...people only like him because he is talking about giving people free shit...grow up kids.
>>678066199
Cool, they aren't if that makes you happy. What's your point? If you or I calls an apple an orange but it still looks and tastes like an apple then what's the difference? Only the name.
>>678063560
So there is no benefit to regulation at all? Every corporation should do whatever is in the best interest of investors regardless of the largesse afforded these super rich people/shell companies?
>>678066386
while the relative power of the POTUS is questionable it is still a position to hold and with it comes certain perks and advantages. of course both parties are completely bought and sold but it helps if you have a yes-man as the president as we have had for the past few decades.
sanders and now i believe trump are not the typical yes-men and the MSM along with both party leaders are trying desperately to keep those two out of the popular vote
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPKKQnijnsM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9xSVzdUNqo
>>678066732
I said feel the bern.
>>678066298
Are you stupid? I pay insurance. My copay is the same as the copay for many of these socialist countries. I don't have to pay 60% income tax 50% sales tax and turn over my life to thw government for.health. I simply have to go to work everyday and pay my (reasonable) premium. There is no need to let the government take over my entire life just to go to the doctor
>>678066608
Not to mention it creates dependence, which in turn just creates really soft people. In a very crude sense it just creates a nation of pussies who can't' work for themselves and have lost their inner human spirit.
>>678066392
I'd have to have an argument, for anything you said to be relevant, retard.
All I did was prove a liar, was lying.
Taste my dick, fuckboi.
>>678066713
>couldn't find another job
>lived outside of his means
>home was foreclosed on because he couldn't pay for it
>waaaaah
not seeing the problem here
>>678066713
>So there is no benefit to regulation at all? Every corporation should do whatever is in the best interest of investors regardless of the largesse afforded these super rich people/shell companies?
You don't understand how the free market works. If a company does some stupid shit, they'll go out of business because no one will do business with them. As such, other businesses take note and clean up their act. Done! No need for government intervention, the market regulates itself.
>>678066608
Private insurance pays squat. You pay for your own medical bills. They are not a charity organisation rather they are for a profit. Why not take the profit out of the equation so we can all pay less for health care?
If you pay all your life for private health care, but never need it, how do you justify private health care taking your money and paying for someone elses medical bills? Your argument is completely self defeating.
>>678066420
>>678065930
IF YOU VOTE FOR BERNIE SANDERS THAN YOU ARE A RACIST. HE DOESNT REPRESENT BLACK PEOPLE PROPERLY. HILLARY CLINTON IS THE ONLY ONE THAT BLACK PEOPLE AND MINORITIES SHOULD VOTE FOR. PERIOD....
THIS IS NOT BAIT OR TROLLING THIS IS A FACT. ANYONE WHO DOESNT VOTE FOR HILLARY IS RACIST.
AND THAT INCLUDES ALL BERNIE SANDERS SUPPORTERS
>>678066890
Hear hear! As my father used to say, a little starvation can be a powerful motivator. If people actually faced starvation for being lazy, we'd have much harder workers.
>>678066615
>le free shit maymay
Literally none of Sanders' supporters believe that free shit is a real thing, retard.
>>678066707
You said things that are outright lies, and defend it with "what if an apple was an orange "?
Sanders is loosing because of idiots like you vocally supporting him.
>>678067040
That's damn right. I worked my ass off through college and grad school to land the job that I did, and after this first tax season as a real adult, I have never been more fiscally conservative in my life. I'll give to charity and shit when I'm older and have accumulated a great deal of wealth, but right now I'm young and want to hoard what I can.
>>678065409
That's your problem. And anyone else...you think you're going to become apart of the elite. 678061649
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>>678054791
>Everyone in here assuming anyone left of center is a 14 year old feminist queer.
>TFW trump has always supported liberals.
>>678067108
>THIS IS NOT BAIT OR TROLLING THIS IS A FACT. ANYONE WHO DOESNT VOTE FOR HILLARY IS RACIST.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALXulk0T8cg
>>678067025
You don't understand how insurance works. I pay monthly premiums, they cover a certain percentage of the expenses I may face. It's quite simple.
If you can't afford to pay for your bills or insurance, then turn to charity, some schmuck would likely be willing to bail you out.
>>678061549
>#DontTrustTheCorporateMedia
Is this a joke?
MTV, comedy central, HBO , cnn, nbc, buzzfeed, VICE, those are all corporate medias that are advertising for bernie, should you don't trust them either? if that hashtag means any form of real distrust in the media woudn't that highlight trump as the only choice since he is the number 1 enemy of all medias including fox news ?
>>678066890
The basis of freedom is that people are free to live under a bridge and fuck off if they choose to. I am free to work everyday aND pay for my life style if I choose. The Libfags want me to supplement the poor decisions of other with my hard work.. that is wrong! I choose not to smoke and drink and have 18 kids.. why should I have to pay for the people who choose to do these things?
Personally I feel more productive whenever I have social support so I don't see why socialism would just enable people to be lazy. If anything it's an push for a more open, generous society built on objective values rather than greedy piss-ants trying to outdo their neighbors.
Maybe I'm stupid, idk.
Somebody with a masters in economics or political science please tell me why I'm retarded.
>>678067201
You've never met a Sanders supporter then. They're all about "free" college and "free" healthcare and "free" child care, etc.
>>678067180
I totally agree, man. Although I would argue that it's more about smart workers than hardworking. There are plenty of hard workers who simply don't have the necessary education to get a good job. But it's the young college students who can observe the economic climate, tailor their major to a job that would thrive in it, and then execute that plan who will end up being successful.
a more equitable utilization of capital is necessary or society will crumble
that much is true
>>678066869
LOL 60% INCOME TAX 50% SALES TAX. PLEASE EAT MORE BULLSHIT
>>678054791
Life is not fair, and nothing is free.
Bernie and all his socialist minions can fuck right off. You don't deserve anything just because you exist. If you don't like being poor then do something about it.
Stop blaming the rich for your problems, you're poor cause you're either lazy or stupid. Pick one. If you're stupid, whelp sorry buddy you're fucked. If you're lazy, get off your ass, get a job, and make money.
>inb4 you can't just get a job
Yes you can. It's called developing a skill set that employers will regard as valuable, then you can trade your skills for currency. Not my problem you got a degree in fucking Greek Poetry and wonder why nobody wants to hire you.
Bernouts are degenerates, jobless, entitled fucks that think just because they exist, they are owed anything. FUCK YOU.
>>678063344
>berniefags believe that giving away money you use to pay your bills would save you money.
>>678067296
For my age, I'm already elite. But I want to leave a solid legacy behind for my children so I need to grow what I have.
>>678067398
This being said I have talked to Drs and they have ta lied to me about how insurance companies in the U.S get massive discounts on the stuff they pay for.
>>678067501
i really would love to see trump open his debate with this dank meme. He will totally pwn bernie so hard!
>>678067618
Denmark. That's all I have to say.. Google it. Faggot
>>678066791
I just watched both of these
I supported Trump but now I support Bernie
>>678067275
Shh I'm working for hillary
>>678067547
Quite right! No argument here. We need more consequences for failure to motivate people nowadays. Can you imagine how careful people would be with planning their futures if the poor were left without medicaid and food stamps? I guarantee we wouldn't have any more "feminist studies" degrees taken in university!
>>678067501
I AM a Sanders supporter though.
>>678059034
hahahahahayyy
nope faggot
Highest income tax is 51 percent
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_tax_rates
http://www.skat.dk/skat.aspx?oId=satser
fuck off
>>678067447
I agree with you. It's why Democrats usually have no personal ambition (i.e. are cowards).
>>678066840
but that's stupid because bernie is a worthless old grandpa cuck
entertaining old cuck, but a cuck nonetheless
>>678067639
BERNIE BTFO
>>678067775
>ta lied
Wtf nice one phone. Talked to me is what it should say
>>678067639
this
>>678067799
Hell, if they made it payperview, I'd pay to watch that!
>>678054791
I think you meant subjectively
>>678067958
Did somebody call you a cuck and you feel the need to start calling everyone else that faggot?
>>678067281
And that's a damn right. if you see what I did there
>>678067885
Then do tell me how you believe universal healthcare isn't GIBSMEDAT FREE SHIT? The poor pay nothing into the system and reap all the benefits. Sounds like "free shit" to me.
>>678067639
Holy shit this post is winning the thread
he wants 2 trillion dollars in increased spending. for those of you who dont really know how much that is, its $1 million , 2 million times. thats crazy. and ontop of that when he raises corporate taxes even more an estimated 5 to 6 million jobs will be lost which will cost the gov and tax payers even more money and this will be 5 to 6 million less people paying taxes. plus he will let in every illegal there is costing the USA hundreds of billions just in medical care and than billions in housing costs and food stamps and hundreds of billions in prison and court costs because illegal aliens do actually commit murder and violent crimes at almost 11 times the national average. this is because the illegals cant come in legally usually because of criminal backgrounds so they come in illegally. thats why illegals need booted. he was against immigrants until about 2009 or 2010 than he flopped because he wanted to gain votes by growing the party with immigrants who are almost all democrats and have kids who will vote dem.
He wants immigration 100% to grow the dem party and gain votes. Dems are too dumb to see this
>>678058206
scandis are oil rich, the US would more likely end up as spain or greece
>>678067275
I know you comprehend the point I'm making. But I'll lay it out again so you can ignore it once more.
Ultimately it doesn't matter which term you affix to his ideals. His policies are simply just policies that are considered 'standards' in the rest of the developed world.
Why don't you talk of anything with actual substance?
>>678067639
>>678068196
if you don't know why bernie is a cuck you are probably a cuck yourself :^)
have fun wasting a vote. are you even old enough to vote? most bernie supporters i see or hear about are underageb&
>>678067639
>>678068480
>the rest of the developed world really values human achievement and sports thriving economies
>>678068287
It's paid for with tax dollars, retard, not Bernie's magic rainbow unicorn.
>>678068631
Technically I've either cucked others or got sloppy seconds.
Either way I don't think you know what you're saying mayman.
>>678068729
The rest of the world doesn't value freedom at all.
>>678068412
You are using words, but you're not saying anything. Try harder next time and maybe you'll set a few hooks.
Ok I just got here but what do we do if the powers that be sway and/or put the fear of god into him?
>>678067108
he marches with mlk
>>678068751
universal healthcare is like cafeteria food in primary school. is that really what you want to eat all the time?
>>678068287
That is what the abusers of all of these entitlement services have turned them into. There is no way that bernie can tell me that the doctors, hospitals, and entitled thieving patients, wouldn't abuse this system as bad or worse than they already do Medicaid and Medicare. Look at the abuse of this and every other gubment run system. And then tell me you feel good about creating an even bigger and more open for abuse system. It is destined to fail out of the box
>>678067639
/thread
the only people who vote bernie buy into his free shit bullshit.
PS If college is free then the quality will drop to a point where most employers still won't hire you, but will hire the people who went to private ones.
>>678067639
Son, you just made a bunch of pink moustached nu-males cry.
>>678068873
It'll weed out the genetically unfit.
>>678067398
Really, they actually only cover a percentage of the already bloated expenses? That's hilarious! Kinda thought they would've covered 100% since you've been you know, paying them monthly for your entire life.
>>678068801
i am saying that people who even think bernie is getting the DNC nom let alone actually being an electable president are delusional and most probably underageb&
i think i was very clear about that
>>678068480
A confirmed liar ask someone why they can't speak of substance, when their hollow lies are proven false.
>Oh the irony
You're a joke.
>>678068751
Good! You're halfway there kiddo. Now where do taxes come from? They're forcibly taken from everyone via threat of force. What's that make that? Theft! So we have the poor using the government to steal their wealth to pay for their own healthcare and other "free shit". Do you understand why this is wrong?
>>678068969
>i know it sucks but let's do it anyway!
>liberals
>>678069040
That's a very shallow critique of the situation, sir.
Or are you a Trump-cockrider claiming not to be a cuck.
Do you know what cuck means.
>>678068957
I've had experiences in the Canadian health care system that would terrify you. Years long waiting lists, days waits in ERs..
>>678069096
I am a fascist.
Here is a video of Sanders speaking out against immigration. he was right back than and now this is exactly what Trump is saying and being called a racist for.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iw3K0F6Gs5A
>>678068845
whats untrue about what i said. nothing. its 100% true. prove me wrong. you cant
>>678068631
>have fun wasting a vote
>implying the other popular choices aren't a waste of a vote.
not saying i'm for Bernie, which i'm not, but come on let's be real here
>>678069188
>trump-cockrider
what does it mean though? a sensible person who casts a vote for a presidential nominee?
>>678068987
It varies from plan to plan. I'm sure there are some that cover most everything, but they'd be rather expensive.
>>678069237
Liberals, fascists... Same thing, different degrees.
>>678069304
I bet you say his name every time you cum in your blowup doll claiming you're alpha males.
>>678069248
You proved it wrong yourself by the fourth sentence. Read it again, numbnuts.
>>678069056
>taxation is theft
No. Taxation is the cost of civilization. You want no taxes, I'm sure you can find that in the third world. And I'm sure since you're so anti-tax, you won't miss any of the amenities from home.
>>678069417
I've heard conservatives compared to fascists.
You are retarded.
You are a nigger.
You probably say nigger unironically.
>>678069237
you're and idiot
>>678069288
if you were "being real" you would be supporting trump
>>678066999
Although that's a nice idea, we don't know if that would actually happen these days since America isnt a real free market. Also, some corporations may be too large to really care
>>678069056
Yes! And then the government will use this service to force other legislation onto states and people. Using funding for healthcare at the state level to make people adopt laws that they don't agree with. Just as they do with highway funding and other gov. Money to force drinking age limits, seat belt laws, and other shit
Mark my words
>>678069509
>Taxation is the cost of civilization.
Methinks you're confusing civilization with government. You can have a civilization without coercive government.
>>678067895
no because there is income tax than ontop of that there is sales tax and lots of other gov fees and other forms of taxes that arent called taxes but in reality they are. thats how those tax numbers get so high.
>>678069221
The longest I have ever waited for an operation was 6 weeks. The longest I have ever waited to see a specialist was 3 weeks. The longest I have ever waited in a hospital was 6 and these wait times are pretty standard for non life threatening issues.
>>678069509
you can't even catch your own rain water. you aren't nearly as free as you think you are.
>taxation is "legal" theft
>>678069580
Yeah, it'll take a few more generations to get rid of government through reforms, but it's definitely happening, albeit slowly.
>>678067833
Yeah so in Denmark from what I can gather sales tax is 25% and income tax is 5.83% up to 65k. After that it gets a lot more, which is totally up to Denmark and I don't agree with having it jump up so much at that amount and neither does Bernie. Also they seem to be able to get a lot of tax deductions in Denmark.
Sorry, what was that bullshit you wanted me to read again?
>>678069629
>You can have a civilization without coercive government.
Then the cost would have to be systematic donation, which most of you won't do because you are greedy assholes.
>>678069758
6 hours I mean.
>>678069629
It's not much of one without "coercive" government. The fact that socialism is against human nature is exactly why we need to use it. Human nature is shit. "no rules lol" do you want real life to be like /b/?
>>678069592
The biggest law.I can see coming would.be gun control and conceal carry changes.
>>678069592
Yeah, you get it. We need to get rid of government, let the market regulate itself. People are smart and can manage their own lives.
>>678063386
The idea of a free market works in the long term. In the short and mid terms, if something goes wrong too many people would just starve to death if something goes wrong for people to be comfortable allowing no regulations s
>>678069758
>>678069820
Good for you! You've had good experiences. What of those of us who are getting fucked over daily?
>>678069925
Know how I can tell you're not even old enough to drink?
>>678069517
You've basically admitted that Trump is the rational choice. Try your hardest to take it back, if you want. I'll be over here not giving a fuck.
>>678069507
just say what your talking about. just say what you mean insted of being vague. what i said is true. if you dont think something is than say what.
>>678069801
So what? It's already every man for himself, how would it be any different? Just with one less oppressive organization fucking over the little guy.
>>678070027
Pretty sure these are very standard waiting times.
>>678069894
>The fact that socialism is against human nature is exactly why we need to use it.
Did you just have a stroke anon? Reread your sentence there.
>>678070100
not only is Trump the rational choice he is the best and only choice.
>>678069776
My bad, also in there is a local tax or some shit at about ~24% and 8% health tax after $6,500. That's a pretty high health tax rate. Must cover a lot of shit. Where I am it's only 2%
>>678070003
A little growing pain, so to speak. It's worth it in the long run, as you said.
>>678057962
i'm voting for you bro
test
>>678070048
Silly insults aside, got any rebuttals to my points?
>>678069773
I actually don't think a free market is a nice idea FYI I was saying it dismissively. Free markets would only work after an established order had been set. In the beginning there'd be an even bigger shitshow than what we have
>>678069925
Too bad that this seems to be the opposite of what kids are being taught today. There seems to.be no work ethic and self reliance anymore.. everyone thinks that the world owes them something, just for being alive. It's like all of a sudden the entire country has gone fucking crazy
>>678054791
Leave the us comrade ! Go and join your comrades in cuba !
>>678070381
I said it works. Not that it's worth it.
>>678070255
Not for me or some people I know. I know one guy who had to wait TWO YEARS for a heart specialist. Then there was one guy who had a nasty gash on his arm, took over 16 hours in the ER for them to see him.
>>678070267
I'm aware of what I said.
>>678070108
>if you dont think something is than say what.
Point proven.
>>678070493
>In the beginning there'd be an even bigger shitshow than what we have
So what? Worth it in the long run. As long as you're not at the bottom of the new pecking order, you'll benefit from the new order.
today in lecture some dumbass was complaining about another dumbass she knows who was "abusing the system" with buying steaks with foodstamps.
then this dumb bitch proceeded to admit that her father was not born in this country.
i can't wait until trump sends them all packing
>mfw
>>678070157
>It's already every man for himself.
Get outside more and work on your empathy.
People are only pushed into those situations because of the ideology capitalism perpetuates, which I find strange seeing as how socialism, or even communism, would align more the Judeo-Christian values, but whatever. A lot more people are willing to stick their necks out for others solely for the sake of fulfillment it offers. I know that stretches into idealistic waters but try giving a chance for once. People are way responsive to generosity and kindness and that seems to be lost nowadays.
Faggot.
>>678069056
If you think taxation is "theft", by all means, just agree to not pay taxes if you accept to not use ANY benefit of what taxes pay for. I would love to see how long it takes for you to cave and understand, naïve bastard
>>678070437
Nope, didn't even read them. I can tell you're a fucking moron by your manner of speech.
>>678069221
So those are problems in the Canadian system. It's not a reason to throw the baby out with the bath water
>>678070497
>There seems to.be no work ethic and self reliance anymore.. everyone thinks that the world owes them something, just for being alive. It's like all of a sudden the entire country has gone fucking crazy
THIS!!! This is basically ever Bernie supporter.
>gibsmedat free shit!
>i'm a special snowflake
>i don't need to work hard
>>678070568
Calling massive bullshit on waiting 2 years to see a heart specialist nobody books 2 years in advance. Who hired you to shit on our excellent Canadian healthcare?
>>678070568
And it would be worse in American cities. Dindunuffins and Shaniquwa's would flood the ers with
>>678070567
Why wouldn't it be worth it? The new world would be glorious! Just as long as you're not at the bottom, but I sure don't plan on being there.
>>678070255
here in canada my mom had cancer in her eye and was given 6 months to live without it removed. surgery was scheduled for 15 months away. we went to the USA and paid out of pocket and with personal loans and got it done in 2 weeks.
totally fucked here in canada when waiting for important things and specialists
>>678070616
>>678070747
>Get outside more and work on your empathy.
Might I suggest watching this brief video?
http://www.theatlantic.com/video/index/474588/why-empathy-is-a-bad-thing/?utm_source=SFFB
>>678069248
Sorry? He's talking about big companies bringing in overseas workers so the companies can make more profits. Not what trump talks about AT ALL and exactly what trump has done in business!
>>678070870
Self-reliance is for the most part illusory.
I'm relying on programmers to make shit like this website in order to get a message across from you. I rely on street workers to create the road systems. I rely on teachers to go to school and get an education then repeat the information for me so I can navigate life with relatively ease.
This notion of a self-made men is for the most part contrived, or at least a product of a very narrow-minded point of view.
>>678061292
Letting wealthy people escape paying their fair share of taxes via tax loopholes (what the definition of loopholes would mean in this sense) is what does that. It extracts wealth from lower classes.
>>678070779
Typical leftist, won't even hear out the opposing view points.
>>678071018
That is why most Americans would rather be responsible for their own healthcare. It's insane to turn over something so important to a government burocracy
>>678070638
haha stop trolling. typical sanders supporter. has Zero facts to back anything up. no stats or examples or anything factual. just rambles on about nothing and doesnt make sense
>>678071114
Sure, then read The Science of Evil by Simon Baron-Cohen.
>>678070938
Bruh, you think that's bad. Check out the VA.
>>678070747
>A lot more people are willing to stick their necks out for others solely for the sake of fulfillment it offers.
No one helps anyone else any more. I used to believe in human goodness, then reality sunk in. I needed help, no one helped. Fuck other people, it's truly dog eat dog.
>>678071210
>says typical leftist
>Shuts out any leftist ideas
cuz libturds
>>678071210
>dur hur im sayin stuff on the intarwebz
Fuck off, kid. The adults are talking.
>>678071156
(Citation needed)
When did trump import overseas workers to keep his costs down?
Pretty sure you can't provide any proof of your statement.
>>678070938
>I don't like it, it must be a lie!
Yeah, the Canadian system is flawless, there are never any problems.
>>678069331
But I'm trying to get you to realise that they put some of your money in their pocket and you don't ever get that back even if they cover you for a medical condition. Not only that but I really feel for you if you ever get a chronic condition and after a year your insurance company says, you know what? You're a burden on us so we're cutting you loose. Good luck paying for your ongoing health care without insurance, we'll send a representative out to your funeral to pay condolences.
>>678071018
Probably should have gone to the paper with that, and then sued because it is super illegal to deny someone with a life threatening condition the health care they need to survive.
>>678071256
Name one thing wrong with anything Sanders has said. Go on, try.
Oh, that's right, you CAN'T.
>>678054791
bernie's policy is coercive, oppressive, regressive
prove me wrong, never mind you cannot and I'm not even in this thread
>>678054791
THIS THREAD IS IRRELEVANT. EVERYONE KNOWS BERN IS THE MAN.
>>678070969
No on plans on the bottom just like people today don't realize they are the bottom
>>678071285
Believe it or not I read it. Interesting read, though I disagree strongly with his conclusions. A lack of empathy might result in evil, but one can argue that empathy has done more evil through Communism and Socialism and the mass murder they did.
>>678071345
>No one helps anyone else anymore.
That's called splitting, Anon. Don't think in all or nothing terms. There are plenty of people who are willing to help, even look at feels threads for an example. There's some smidgen of "good" left in the world. Don't let it be drowned out by the people who are really just hurting and see selfishness as the only way out.
>>678071114
Was interesting. Empathy can definitely be misused or manipulated, but that doesn't render it a harmful function of our psyches in itself.
>>678071321
Imagine if all American health care was comparable to the VA. That is the example of an American version of socialised medicine. I would rather go to a Mexican hospital than most va hospitals.. and yes. I have been in 4 vas in the last 12 years
>>678071179
>they keep more of their money
>this somehow takes money from poor people
And this happens how?
>>678071427
To be honest, I didn't even know he had actually done what I was accusing him of but knowing the character of the fool I was sure he would have tried at some point. All I had to do is type, 'trump imports workers' into google and hit 'I'm feeling lucky'.
You're welcome:
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-exclusive-idUSKCN0Q62RQ20150802
I'm sure I could find various other articles but it really isn't worth my time.
>>678071443
https://www.fraserinstitute.org/studies/waiting-your-turn-wait-times-for-health-care-in-canada-2015-report
I was wondering what was true, so I googled it. That was the first article.
Just thought I'd share.
>>678071475
That's what charity is for. If people weren't forced to give so much in taxes, they'd give so much more to charities! Let people voluntarily care for others.
>>678066298
Why do you think its shitty? Can you name one industry or program that the government runs that cant be done better and more efficiently by the private sector
I'm gonna laugh so hard when Hilary gets elected. Fuck all the candidates.
>>678071634
>Considers the thread talking about reasons why Bernie is the man is pointless
holy shit what
>>678071737
If utilized improperly and that was within the wake of WWII when demonizing your enemies was a regular occurrence.
We've moved a long way from the days of gladiators thanks to empathy, which is really the truest measure of our humanity.
>>678071736
I have an IQ much higher than the average Bernie drone. I think I'll be fine. ;-)
>>678070954
>Dindunuffins and Shaniquwa's
Racist retard opinion is racist and retarded. And discarded.
>>678071971
That awkward feeling when your messiah needs to get foreign workers in to pay them less to even have a shot at being vaguely successful.
>>678072125
You haven't watched the video yet, have you? It's only like three minutes long.
>>678070327
You sounds like a 5 yO believing than Santa Claus is real
>>678072153
KEK. Mmhmm.
>>678071156
i assume you think hes talking about hb1 workers. there arent millions of them so thats how you know hes also talking about illegals. also even though hb1 workers make lower wages they still make good wages because their jobs are usually more specialized. the small amount of Hb1 workers making decent wages arent wwhats driving down wages. its the millions of surplus workers because more workers means lower cost of labor according to the law of supply and demand. also when they are willing to work for less they really drive down average wages. everything he said is true. thats why trump wants the Illegals gone too. and the H1b workers too.
>>678072072
This is what lolbertarian retards actually believe.
>>678071767
>That's called splitting, Anon. Don't think in all or nothing terms. There are plenty of people who are willing to help, even look at feels threads for an example. There's some smidgen of "good" left in the world. Don't let it be drowned out by the people who are really just hurting and see selfishness as the only way out.
Oh fuck off, there's not a good person out there. Only assholes who give $20 to a charity to feel good for a few minutes.
>>678072153
Really? What is it?
>>678072254
I did, and it was how it can prevent us from focusing on larger, more practical issues because we're more concerned with what is directly relevant to us at the moment, and it can also play on our sensationalist tendencies to sway the masses on an emotional level.
I'm not advocating a complete abandonment of reason. I'm saying that empathy can be strengthen and modulated properly within the parameters of reason.
Empathy is the only reason I bothered watching the video at all instead of calling you a nigger.
>>678071767
>Empathy can definitely be misused or manipulated, but that doesn't render it a harmful function of our psyches in itself.
I do believe the point was that it is never useful and always leads to harm.
Better still, and what was unsaid in the video, would be that if empathy were eliminated, there'd be no cause to bother helping any one anyways, so many resources would be saved!
>>678063898
You might be the most idiotic poster ever. How would that work?
>>678071971
Thanks for the article.
A work visa costs $2k per person.
http://www.workpermit.com/us/us_h1b_faq.htm
Then he had to pay wages on top of that.
That's not saving money, but it is imported workers.
>>678072081
Anything that creates a monopoly.. Enjoy getting ass raped by the private company that owns a monopoly.
It's shitty because your global standings in terms of health care are ranked way below where you'd expect them to be based on government and private expenditure on the medical industry.
>>678072153
"Bernie drone" you do realise that his supporters are some of the most educated and politically active voters, right?
>>678072205
Cuckold
>>678071539
i just seen him say that people in communist countries waiting in long lines for food is a good thing and food rationing is a good thing and he encourages it. lots wrong with that.
>>678072048
That must be some propaganda piece. I know people who waited years.
>>678072620
See
>>678072552
>>678072424
I find it weird that everybody wants a friend but thinks everyone is shit simultaneously.
Do you hate hugs or think I have some malevolent, ulterior motive to me offering one?
>>678072552
>I'm not advocating a complete abandonment of reason. I'm saying that empathy can be strengthen and modulated properly within the parameters of reason.
I argue that it is an impediment to human progress. We coddle the weak far too much as is! So many wasted resources.
>>678072667
You're clearly uneducated on the issues. Go sit at the kid's table.
>>678072763
Nice buzzword.
>>678072779
Prove it.
>>678072789
You're full of shit. Nobody waits 2 years to see a fucking specialist. Also the article was super critical of the wait times.
