Why can't atheists ever define atheism?
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Why can't atheists ever define atheism?
>>676981326
You're not an atheist? Are you retarded?
Atheism: The belief that there is no God or higher power. Saged, you're a worthless faggot
Do you just sit on /b all day waiting to post this?
>>676981620
Typical atheist. Cannot even comprehend any point of view other than his own.
If you'd rub some brain cells together you'd understand why it's you that is wrong.
>>676981790
Please define God. Unless you can do that, that sentence makes no sense.
I don't know what athiests you've been talking to, it's literally the easiest shit ever.
Athiesm is a lack of a religion or a belief that there is no god. simple as that lol
>>676981959
I'm assuming you know what kind of God I'm referring to. In case you're even more inexplicably retarded than I originally thought, a God is a divine being that some people believe in, generally one that dictates fate or creates worlds
>>676982075
But that definition doesn't mean anything unless you can define what you mean by God.
>>676981326
If Theism is correct, then why do you deny everyone else's God(s) as fake? How do you determine which God(s) to believe in and which to deny?
>>676981326
I will fuck anyone's asshole if you take OP's shitty bait, excluding me
DO NOT FUCKING POST
DO
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FUCKING
POST.
>>676981959
A conscious thing that controls the Universe
>>676982237
There is nothing stopping some sort of being from creating worlds, so what do you mean by "divine?"
>>676981959
lol why are you such a faggot
>>676981326
Funny parts aside
Is it just me, or is this kids face is realy fucking punchable?
>>676982383
>says not to post
>posts
>>676981959
Atheism: a lack of belief in the typical theistic god/gods/goddess/goddesses
God: Omnipotent, Omniscient, Omnipresent, All-mighty creator of creation proposed by ancient religious tradition and religious texts
god: a being of extreme power and creative ability, able to bend universe to his own will
goddess: Female Equivalent to a god
Retarded Faggot: OP
Bait: This thread
Sage: Goes in all fields
>>676982365
m8 OP raised a pretty valid point and you ahven't come even close to addressing it
>>676982472
Controls how?
We control the universe in small ways.
>>676982606
It's called the Socratic method. OP will keep on asking what a word in each definition means until you tear your hair out and rape your father.
>>676982383
That doesn't follow, sir. Do you understand me? What are you laughing at? What? I can't have a discussion with this Anon?
>>676982889
>>676982713
>>676981326
i replied to your bait hoping to get a response, don't leave me hanging OP
>>676982606
"A superhuman being?"
So anything greater or better than humans is a God, and therefore you don't believe in it?
>>676981326
Why can't jet fuel melt small children?
>>676982713
Looks like you won
You faggot. Science has disproven your desert religion time and time again.
>>676982770
I didn't address his point, because it is pointless bait. I instead counter-questioned him asking for his criteria on selecting / rejecting deities. I am profoundly interested in the reasoning one religion uses to dismiss all other religions while upholding their own as the only 'true Scottishmen' I mean God.
>>676981326
it has everything to do with the story of Goliath.
not everybody thinks that its cool, but i finally met a girl who thinks im a 10/10 would bang like bam in my Goliath suit.
she'd come over sometimes while her boyfriend was away after school.

once the door would close she'd almost instantly get naked. most times she'd put on her favorite song and start sucking. then she would cry. her tears and makeup would drip down her face onto my dick. its surprising how cold tears are. eventually i finally asked her what was wrong. in between licks she told me that her favorite song was also her bfs favorite song. so even though she loved hearing it and it totally got her pussy wet, it also made her think about the fact that she was cheating on her boyfriend. i dont think i ever came harder down somebodies throat then right after she told me that. she was beautiful. we dont hang out anymore. wanna get lunch?

this was the song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSPe8dIJEtw
>>676982713
>a being of extreme power and creative ability, able to bend universe to his own will
You've just described humans. Do you not believe in humans?
>>676982889
If it is his will then it WILL happen
too bad that is not true why are you so gay Op?
why would you care if there is a god or not who cares there are hundreds of religons you can't believe in all of them and can't follow all their rules there is no god stop this shit Op you are going crazy. What are you Christian? Jehova's witness Hindu? Muslim? Jewish? just stop Op you don't need to do this go do something better.
>>676982383
>excluding me
yea ok buddy
>>676983153
Anon-kun, why don't you have a fucking dictionary?
>>676983380
Not all of them do.
Now address the point and maybe I'll engage further.
>>676981326
Because OP is a fagget
>>676983320
When? Give me one example of a time that has happened.
>>676981326
>God: a transcended being meant to symbolize perfection in character and order; usually pitted against an equally powerful being with selfish motives
Almost like government but with less memes.
Besides how do you counter that most holy books are written by human beans?
>>676983562
>If it is his will then it WILL happen
Aphrodite didn't want Troy to be destroyed. Troy was nevertheless destroyed.
So atheists have no problem with the Greek gods? They didn't always get their way.
>>676983536
that's god with a lower case g
not with an uppercase G
you are trying to defend the existence of God, not a god.
God is what you have to prove exists.
>>676983640
So what you're saying is no being has powers surpassing humans?
That's rather arrogant, atheist.
>>676983793
Human beans? Try harder faggot. Convince me God is not real. Come on... I can debate for hours... Point for point. The bible is supposedly wrote by people blessed/cursed to hear God, writing down their own interpretation of his voice, like a guide
>>676983736
We found Jesus' bones.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talpiot_Tomb
>>676983736
Fixed Earth
Flat Earth
Heliocentric universe
Firmament
Heavens are a crystal Sphere
Stars falling to earth and children stomping on them
Noah's flood and the Ark
Pontious Pilot not being a real person
Abraham not being real person
Wholesale theft of pagan rituals and holidays
The convention of Nicaea
To name a few
>>676983793
>meant to symbolize perfection in character and order
Ares was a psychotic mass murderer. So then atheists have no problems with the Greek gods, right?
>>676983320
Can't prove a negative, but it doesn't matter because it isn't the responsibility of atheists/scientists to disprove religion - the people arguing for religion are responsible for proving it is true.
>>676981959
You think god is everything there was , is and ever will be in this universe.
If you suck the popes cock , you'll thank god for giving you this expercience while it was all just up to you and the pope to make this happen.
Meteor hits atheist?
You'll say it was gods wrath while it was just the universe and the gravitational force landing the meteor on the aheist who happened to be an atheist and who happened to be on the spot where the meteor would slam into.
Your uncle cheated on you and found a new fuckbuddy?
You'll blame Satan and claim god will send your uncle to hell while the new fuckbuddy thanks god for making his asshole round.
Your totally worthless 'GOD' is everything in the whole universe . And if everything in this whole universe is god it doesn't make any sense to worship him. Because if this god doesn't exist nothing in this whole universe would change .
Just compare god to a feminazi.
You know she can't change shit but you don't want her living with you either.
>>676984361
No atheists believe in no gods because they use science to disprove gods
>>676984059
>God is what you have to prove exists.
Is it? Do atheists only not believe in God?
I just want to know what atheism is.
>>676983320
Desert? I think not. I'm a Shinto
>>676981326
ITT: it's 2016 and people still don't know about the existence of dictionaries
>>676984415
*experience*
>>676984094
Where in that definition does it say that? Kill yourself
>>676981959
God is another term for a higher power which does not need to be explained. If you believe in something that even you can't explain are atheists the ones at fault here?
>>676984211
How does that disprove the existence of God?
I never even said I was a Christian anyway.
>>676984361
No more than with any other gods. (We don't care about gods; we care about worshipers.)
>>676981959
I too am an ignostic.
wikipedia.org/ignosticism
>>676984107
Kind of like how people in asylums and slums can faintly hear the voice of either Richard Nixon, their dead grandpa, or some other person they were close to, telling them they have to save the world.
Besides, opinions can alter messages if their source is legit.
>>676984505
We already told you faggot.
>>676981790
>>676982075
>>676982713
>>676984511
>Shinto
>Otaku
>Faggot
>>676981326
A disbelief in the existence of deity.
There.
Google is your friend.
>>676984225
>taking the Bible literally
You just went full pleb
grando autem et Satanas in se unum omnium hominum pastor
>>676981326
A person who lacks belief in a god or gods. People who use this definition categorize atheists as either negative (or implicit or weak) atheists or positive (or explicit or strong) atheists. Negative atheists, while they don't believe in a god, do not positively assert that no gods exist. Positive atheists, however, do.
>>676981326
because I like juicy dicks in my mouth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05hTBAOnDQE
>>676984700
So you define atheism then, if it isn't about gods.
>>676984489
By all means point to one example of a god being disproved.
>>676981326
Fuck. You. You worthless piece of shit. Is this what /b/ is? Just cunts like you, spamming shit like this. /b/ was once great, we'd reck havoc everywhere. We had great memes. Now we have cunts like you spamming these useless fucking posts. Also, fuck anyone who bumps these posts you worthless degenerate scum. Fuck you.
>>676984505
you want atheists to not be atheists?
Prove God exists
it's that simple.
most of them wont worship in church if you do but they will believe in him.
Personally, i am a deist.
(I believe the universe itself is God)
>>676984415
How do you know what kind of god I worship?
I just asked you to define atheism. You don't have to get mad just because you can't do it.
>>676985113
You already can everyday do you see angels nope. Do you ear jesus/god nope thats just your mind playing tricks on you.
>dsi shop theme plays in bg
>makes them-self look like a faggot
>>676984792
And none of those people could define what they meant by "god."
So please, take a stab at it.
>>676985341
Well it's easy to define you stupid cunt. Use google you worthless fuck faced cunt. ITS FUCKING EASY YOU PIECE OF SHIT. FUCKERS LIKE YOU RUIN /b/.
>>676984682
Then do you know where Mohammed's bones are? Or even Buddha's, even though Buddhism calls more on faith on the individual rather than in the astral? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burial_places_of_founders_of_world_religions
>>676984837
If the bible and other religious texts are the divine word of an infallible God, then proven the 'facts' written in those false means that God was fallible and therefore cannot exist.
By the way, the Convention was where the rival factions of Roman Catholics got together and literally voted on what to put into the bible by a show of hands, in case you didn't know.
Plus, when you can use the awesome amount of bureaucratic records from the Roman empire to disprove specific events in those texts, makes for a wonderful secular win-win
>>676981326
>>676984587
>"There is no higher power than humans!"
hubris never ends well...
>>676985113
Listen here.
Don't ask a bunch of faggots on 4chan about what words mean. These fucking weaboos don't know their loose assholes from a hole in the ground.
Go the fuck outside, and buy a dictionary. Look under the A section and find atheism. There's your definition. If you doubt it, you can go fuck yourself because it's right. You can then sleep soundly knowing that every atheist that owns a dictionary or has access to the internet can define atheism just fine.
>>676985113
I was saying we don't care about gods, because we don't believe in them. A 'theist' is someone who follows or adheres to theological ideals; an 'atheist' being the antonym of that.
What we do care/think about, though, are theists, given their tendency to intrude on our lives.
>>676985543
You weren't reading what they said so I have nothing to define a divine being if your going to be an arrogant little fagot about it hiding behind a never-ending story character.
>>676985708
Bones left behind by a prophet don't disprove a god.
Why do atheists always turn into incoherent blubberers when confronted?
>>676984831
Define "deity."
>>676984837
Why wouldnt I take the Bible literally if God's word is law and the bible is the word of God?
Atheism is lack of religion
>>676984990
what is a god?
>>676986007
Fuck off. Go and buy a dictionary. Go outside. Buy a rope while you're at it. Go back home. Hang your self. Then you can go to and found out whether there is a God.
Tell me more about god. I'm getting a thick 'un in my drawers, and I need more information so I can come.
>>676985329
I don't care if atheists are atheists, but none of them know what it is they believe.
These threads are the best
>>676982549
Creating words maybe not ,but creating life is work of a devine being so there
>>676981326
Just out of curiousity, OP? Could you tell us which religions are the correct ones? (I mean, which ones follow the true words of gods & deities and not just the rantings of a "prophet".)
>>676985361
God doesn't speak to everyone. Try again.
>>676984823
Faggot? Procrastinate much Greg?
>>676984361
Yahweh wanted to murder us all.
http://m.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/246609/jewish/Noah-and-the-Flood.htm
People still worship him, though.
Besides, Greek gods were more embodiments of different personalities of Greeks, hence Sparta Vs Athens, rather than models of wisdom. Like political mascots.
Gods are just figments of imagination made by a person or group of people to get them on there side and say there is something so powerful that it can create matter out of nowhere.>>676986236
>>676986433
Life at any level is just a self-perpetuating chemical reaction/process. Can and does occur at random, just as any other chemical activity might.
>>676983476
hot
moar pls
>>676985571
I've done that. But atheists don't seem to understand what it is they're believing. It's as if they've been brainwashed.
>"I don't believe in gods! No god, ever! If you believe in a god, I disagree with you!"
>"What is a god?"
>"Uhhh..."
>>676986398
I believe in defending myself and being kind to others
>>676986495
I never said everyone faggot.
>>676985718
You've just explained the inconsistencies. The word of God has been corrupted throughout the centuries.
You'll have to keep trying if you want to disprove Him.
>>676986826
sage
>>676986826
You have to define god how do you not see that. You need proof, we dont.
>>676985807
kek. But they don't. They go about thier lives unable to define their beliefs.
>>676986826
So then tell me why I should believe in god and what evidence their is he exist?
>Pro tip: you can't
>>676986826
You have asked atheists several times on here what a god was. Not once has that been their response. Every question you have asked can easily been answered by google. I applaud you for baiting these bait-a fags, but you ain't fooling me.
>>676987177
It is fucking lack of belief
>>676985774
I think you're taking the term higher power too literally. Can you give me one example of a being that has the power to create worlds and provide evidence for it's existance using links that have nothing to do with belief?
>>676985927
>I was saying we don't care about gods, because we don't believe in them
Alright. So there is a category of things you don't believe in. That category is "gods."
What goes in that category?
>>676981863
is she squeezing out a silent but deadly fart in that gif
>>676981326
Actually, atheist etymologically means "godless". But the word itself is corrupted: it implies there is something special in not having gods. But in reality, atheists don't need to reject such an idea (the one of god): it is just meaningless to them. And it seems as meaningless for believers not to comprehend how inevitable a god is to them. To all still questioning this issue: please grow and understand that any sort of unverifiable belief is only sustained by culture, philosophy and ideology. Now which ideology leads to which society? Which society do you prefer? It is something atheists and believers can discuss way better than their fucking convictions!
>>676987239
Hey now, sometimes bait can be pretty tasty even when you know what it is. . .
>>676987358
The Christian god is an all powerful, all knowing being. That's one down, infinite more to categorize for you
>>676981326
Because God
>>676985944
Oh, I read it. All their definitions came down to "hurr a God is anything that's better than humans" or "hurr a God is perfect"
But that's wrong. I can easily name things that don't fit that description but which atheists still don't believe in.
>>676987611
Then fucking do it faggot
>>676986176
what is religion?
Is my mother's book club a religion?
>>676986007
It does disprove human apotheosis. But Its true, a God is only as Powerful as His miracles, hence his ability to transcend planes.
But it does bring up the question, if a being was really capable of existing across all timelines, why would he want to care about us, mortals trapped in only one timeline, working on a whim for each other. Sure you could argue he comes when he is needed and leaves when he isn't but how can such an abstract beings' actions be differentiated against activity we know to be autonomous, such as natural disasters and earthquakes?
>>676987570
>>would they know how to escape?
>escape
>escape
>escape
I'M EATSOMEREDBERRY
>>676986335
There's no need to be upset.
>>676981326
why cant religious people prove god exists?
>>676986842
Is that what an atheist is?
>>676987358
Imaginary friends, mostly. When I say "gods", I mean gods as some manner of extant, influential entity; it's obvious that "gods" exist as an idea or concept that people accept and believe in (even if we don't necessarily agree with them), but a lack of evidence means that we don't have a motivation to believe in or pursue the study of them in any other form(s).
>>676986433
We humans have created synthetic cells. Does that mean that you don't believe in humans?
>>676987722
You should probably look it up
i'm just a guy that doesn't share in the fantasy of any of the theism's out there that anyone else subscribes to
or any at all for that matter
the only reason i would fall under the category 'atheist' is because 'theists' exist
it's the theists that create the dichotomy by applying their absurd fantasy to real life and expecting others to believe, then labeling them when they don't
i simply have no reason for that hypothesis
i have no reason to disprove or define whatever a 'god' might be; i'm not 'anti-theist'
i have no reason to subscribe to a fantasy like that
>>676986885
Then how can you prove God doesn't exist on the basis of you never having heard him?
>>676987965
No that's what I believe in, and I'm an athiest
>>676988150
Very well put
>>676986606
So...
Atheists have no problem with Yahweh either?
>>676986495
Well, not anymore! I mean, back then, SO many people were getting the chats! I mean, let's see - not one of the fellows who wrote the bible actually ever met Jesus, Old or New Testament! The first one written, the Gospel of Mark, was written in 70 AD, where the second one written was John in 90 to 92 AD. How else could they have written the truthiness if God didn't open Skype with 'em?
Heck, since there are precisely ZERO contemporaneous accounts of Jesus, despite Roman meticulous records kept of any possible sedition or threats to Pax Romana (I blame Satan for erasing the books!) you needed God to ghostwrite that stuff, you know?
Satan was even working in the church to bring ruin! The four initial books of the NT were only ratified in the second century, showing all the rest of them to be heretical! Praise the Lord for personally sifting through all the liar texts!
Boy howdy! I sure am glad that God did all that, and I'm glad His Yahoo IM was working then.
Otherwise, we'd just have to accept that a bunch of crazy people talking to the air might be charting the course of people's beliefs!
Right? Right?
Its not hard, its in the word "atheismn" a=no, theis=god
>>676988130
Fallacy. Your logic is stale. Add some red herrings to that.
>>676988209
How can you objectively prove that God does exist, purely on the basis that only you have heard him? It isn't our responsibility to disprove anything, given that you are the one arguing for the idea.
>>676988150
I hear ya.
since these threads seem to pop up every day for over a year now, i thought of something:
is this op maybe not only a faggot, but a faggot chatbot?
but if it were a chatbot, how could he read what is on pictures? a really good chatbot with ocr maybe?
>>676988209
If I heard him than thats my mind playing tricks on me.
>>676981326
Are you the original OP that started this bullshit about a year ago? If so answer this, do you believe in a god?
>>676988130
>synthetic
συν + θÎτω look it up
>>676981326
Why would they need to? It's a distinction created by religion.
>>676987570
>Theists believing God is a supreme being when Ethan Bradberry exists
Literally how more autistic can you fucking get?
>>676986623
>Gods are just figments of imagination
>"To be a god, you must be a figment of imagination"
Wow. You're really smart to hop on that reasoning. I guess I'm an atheist too if that's how you define gods.
Ever heard of a self-fulfilling prophecy?
I'd say your stupidity surprises me but it honestly doesn't, this is about typical for an atheist.
>>676988410
It's more about caring.
Take it like political campaigns: they're recorded on Wikipedia, but are not #mostlookeduptopic2016. We choose to give it importance, and with importance comes a need to define.
But who am I to judge what team you're on. I'm having fun.
>>676988893
I would fuck the shit out of that girl.
>>676988893
Its not really stupidity if your falling for something that can't be proved and can only be proved with "The Bible"
Ok OP. Why do you believe in God? You have no proof except a book who you don't even know was written by. The only reasons you believe is that:
1. Parents and other people who had a effect on your life told you.
2. You actually seen some stuff that made you believe which is bull.
3. You prayed hard for some shit and it worked.
Now do you or did you believe in Santa? Tooth Fairy? Do you now? No you don't because you most likely grown up to believe that your parents made you believe in it and you realizing it was fake, stop believing. Now what do you got to say OP?
>>676987162
What is the sense of being an atheist if its definition depends on a specific religion?
You cannot know of every possible religion in existence. Therefore if you call yourself an atheist, you are clinically retarded.
>>676981326
What? You mean you've never heard an atheist say that they don't believe in any God? How does it get more complicated than that? Atheism literally means, etymologically, without a god.
>>676987294
That would be agnosticism. Atheism involves belief.
>>676989263
That's why google exists.
>>676989187
>Hitler was god.
>And we killed him.
>>676981326
You phrased the question wrong. Reading your responses, the question you really meant to ask was "Do you actually understand what atheism is about or do you use the term like a feminazi uses the term 'feminist'?" That way it's nothing to do with the definition because things have been defined and you won't come out on top of the discussion there.
I'm going to tell you what being an atheist means to me since that is what you were asking.
I believe that NO god exists. I believe that all religious stories I have heard are just STORIES and none of it actually has happened. I believe that religion was made to control the simple minded, but the intelligent have also fallen for the biggest piece of bait in the world called RELIGION. I believe that religion, although people should have the right to it, should not be around and people should only believe in facts. I believe that if a god ever did reveal itself to us, we should believe in it. I am aware that these beliefs are not all atheist beliefs or are what it means to be an aethist but I do believe that there isn't a god so I choose to call myself an aethist.
>>676987218
I take it you've abandoned atheism then?
>>676988390
>>676988564
the quote from that was borrowed from LaPlace/Napolean anecdote and always summed up the situation pretty easily for me
http://www.eoht.info/page/Napoleon+Laplace+anecdote
>>676989263
Your hiding behind a never ending story character faggot. Your the one to talk when you ruin are childhoods by using her character.
>>676989263
The existence of atheism depends on theism, the belief in god
>>676989373
Belief in what then?
>>676989444
>Hitler killed himself
>mow only a god can kill another god
>>676987239
Follow the comment chains. You'll see what I mean.
If you really think I've missed the TRUE definition of what a god is, then please enlighten me.
>>676989444
The saddest trips ever.
In every thread OP loses this argument and stops replying, the thread dies and then he makes another damn thread like an imbecile stuck in Groundhog Day. OP, your logic sucks, you need to get it through that thick skull.
>>676989538
No not really but I will if you prove it to me faggot.
>>676989263
OP, I already asked you which religions are the correct ones. . . I agree you can't know all of them, but you should still know that there are religions (and sects within religions, even) that are contradictory and in conflict with themselves. How should one determine which is the true word of God?
>>676989263
You are a idiot. Believing in imaginary friends.
>>676981326
Probably because when they do, you keep acting like its 20 questions, and when they get tired of your bullshit, you stand up on your desk and announce that you've won another internet argument.
>>676986606
You're not part of the "us" that was killed in the Flood.
Only "they" were killed in the Flood, so that you could be born one of "us".
Human.
>>676981620
No you're retarded for responding to an obvious troll thread
>>676989444
It just means he will return again some day to save us from our sins.
>>676989214
>Ok OP. Why do you believe in God? You have no proof except a book who you don't even know was written by. The only reasons you believe is that:
>
>1. Parents and other people who had a effect on your life told you.
>
>2. You actually seen some stuff that made you believe which is bull.
>
>3. You prayed hard for some shit and it worked.
>
>Now do you or did you believe in Santa? Tooth Fairy? Do you now? No you don't because you most likely grown up to believe that your parents made you believe in it and you realizing it was fake, stop believing. Now what do you got to say OP?
>>676987354
So what you're saying is that a god must be able to create worlds?
Well what about Athena? She couldn't create worlds.
So atheists have no problem with Athena?
>>676989788
So, why is any "religion" right?
faggots keep taking the bait. This argument has been around forever. You're not going to solve the meaning of life on 4chan talking to abunch of basement dwellers.
>>676989263
that would be 'anti-theist', going out of your way to disprove and dismantle every religion
atheists are simply without religion
'a' as a prefix is an extremely common etymological function denoting the absence of the core concept
you're trying to inflate the nature of the concept into something it's not
>>676981326
/thread
>>676989947
Wow just add more gods from other religions we are focusing on one god faggot who hides behind a never ending story character.
>>676990014
This.
>>676987530
but not all other things that atheists don't believe in fit that description.
>>676989981
I don't know, and am not arguing in favor of religion. (That's why I am asking OP.)
>>676989947
No problems with a non existent woman
>>676987354
God created the world whether you believe it or not. And "God" is just a title for the being Who created the world. God doesn't disappear by you not believing in Him any more than the universe disappears by you not believing He made it.
Your generation is so lost. We probably need to burn it down and skip to the next.
>>676989538
I give up. I understand this is all bait but I felt the need to tell you how you are wrong because a collective belief of religion affects me directly since people in politics are affected by religious views. But I give up. Someone asked for proof and you tell them they have abandoned their beliefs? What if you asked for proof that god doesn't exist (Which is logically incorrect anyway)? Does that mean youve abandonded your beliefs? I. GIVE. UP. YOUR IGNORANCE WINS.
>>676990242
Where the proof you idiot.
>>676987694
>a god is anything that's better than humans
Atheists don't typically discount the concept of aliens which have abilities we don't.
>a god is perfect
Greek gods.
>>676990193
If it is baseless and seemingly false, I won't believe
>>676989879
>tfw can't even turn water into wine
At least I can look forward to bioaug.
>>676990201
Well, let's define our terms than. Religion, from religio, means a system of bondage.
Why would any system of bondage be a good thing, or be a thing from God?
Isn't it more obvious that men make up religions in order to lord it over people? Why would God, the Creator, need to create systems of bondage? Is He not the Almighty?
What's super awesome? Jesus gives science hope!
He was a time traveller! It says in the Bible that Mary was born in Nazareth, and so was Jesus! Since Nazareth wasn't founded until the second century, this totally means that going back in time is possible!
SO EXCITING!
>>676990242
We aren't trying to make him disappear. We just don't really care if he ever existed at all.
>>676990345
The universe. The universe is evidence of God, Who made the universe.
>>676988141
Derailing a discussion like that is bad practice.
Much like making an inane comment like your first one, after it's been debunked a thousand times.
>>676990004
well said
>>676990580
The universe was created?
>>676990390
>face palm
Ok you win for now with your ignorance and use of other gods when they all have flaws and no being can be fucking perfect
>>676990443
Well, you can, of course, and vintners do it every day, but in an instant, and aged, well, that's something only the Lord of Time can do.
>>676990443
We convert water into wine via grapes.
>>676987735
You're making a lot of assumptions, atheist. You're really putting the concept of god in a box, and it doesn't fit in there perfectly.
>>676981326
Alright i'm doing it i'm biting the bait...
>Atheism
Definition: The denial of all god claims and religious experience.
God is to me as the easter bunny and Santa clause is to any grown adult...Simply fiction. All forms of religion are regurgitated pyramid schemes.
>>676990509
Except of course that it was an outpost in the 7th century BC.....and a small, white trash sort of city that one wouldn't expect much of a record of....
>>676990492
Again, I don't know. That is why I was asking OP.
>>676990515
You will be made to care. You were given life, and are responsible for how you used it.
>>676988269
Then you also believe whatever is the definition of atheist.
Nobody has yet been able to say what that is.
>>676989373
incorrect, the etymology is simple 'without religion'
like 'anemia' 'without oxygen'
amoral - without moral
asexual - without sexual
asymmetry - without symmetry
>>676990623
Bad practice if I feel I'm dealing with a progressive question, that is. And I don't know what inane comment you refer to
>>676990580
How do you know? I guess mom and dad told you.
>>676981326
why don't christfaggots ever post that chick getting her pussy smashed?
>>676988129
>Imaginary friends, mostly
>"To be a god, you must be imaginary"
I guess I'm also an atheist.
>>676990705
Yes. The other two options, that the universe is eternal, and that the universe created itself, are not really scientifically oriented, or in fact possible. It's pretty well received that the universe had an origin.
>>676987611
>But gr33k gods aren't perfect, in fact, most stories revolve around the imperfections of gods.
I actually wanna see someone promote a human god. Someone who isn't Kony and wants to act like a symbol for people for a living.
Hmmmm.
>>676990928
>Proof that this faggot is a radical trying to get us to join his corrupted views and strawmans
>>676983153
There is nothing greater than humans
>>676990940
Umm yeah I think about a few people have. Also it's not a belief in it, but a disbelief in god or gods
>>676983476
what's the deal with this pasta?
>>676990914
Well, my opinion is that a God Who saw His creation in utter ruin would do something to fix it.
That a God Who knew there was a humanly insurmountable barrier between Man and God would destroy it.
That a God Who desired to have a relationship with whomever chose to have a relationship with Him would make it possible.
That such a God would set men free, even if it meant dying for them.
>>676990776
So what is your concept of god?
>implying I'm atheist and not Christian
>>676991003
It's the definition of the title "God", like "Creator".
why do people keep replying in these threads?
>>676990729
You have the process on. jpg?
>>676985329
that's called pantheism
>>676990928
I am an example of life, being a self-perpetuating chemical process. I wasn't "given" life by anything. (I agree I am responsible for myself, though.)
>>676991128
It is indeed a fearful thing to find yourself in the hands of the living God.
You would do well to fear God now, as the fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom, and you are surely a fool.
>>676991491
If you are responsible for yourself, then you are responsible to God for making you possible.
>>676981326
Why do you make the same thread every day, multiple times a day?
>>676991561
That sounds like something a sadistic killer would say to you if you were strapped to a table Dexter style.
>>676991092
You are right, those claims are not scientifically oriented. You should watch startalk
>>676981326
>Atheism
The lack of belief in any higher power.
>>676989767
Once you admit that atheism is for retards and become agnostic, then I will make you believe in God.
>>676991561
Hey if I was your so called god I would not acre about humans because I would think that they were a mistake.
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>>676990826
No wai! Goddidit!
Also, since there are no tax records from the Romans regarding any 'Nazareth,' during their occupation, it just HAS to be time travel. Suetonius, Pliny the Younger, Josephus Flavius (who additionally mapped all settlements in Israel), and Tacitus, none of them refer in any way to such a place.
WAIT! Does that mean that Nazareth is like the Flying Dutchman or Xanadu, disappearing and reappearing! WOW! PRAISE JESUS!
A (without) + theism (belief in a god) = without belief in a god. An atheist is one who does not believe in the existence of a god(s). Atheism is not even a category. It is the exclusion of a single category, theism. Meaning that someone who is not a theist, is an atheist. The only way to exclude yourself from atheism, is to believe in a god.
Read this as many times as it takes you to understand it.
>>676992091
Even if I became agnostic I would not join your crappy corrupted religion.
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>>676991309
>A God who saw His creation in utter ruin would do something to fix it.
Why did He replace Lilith? (Purely out of curiosity.)
Lack of belief in a higher power
>>676991391
I find that hard to believe. How can this so called God watch his creations die? The Bible and the people I trusted said that if you ask for something to God, he will do it. I asked him to save a certain someone and they died. I knew that no God existed that moment because if I can pray real hard and the opposite happens then there is nothing out there.
>>676992277
tripple dubs and da fuck
>>676990165
No, we're focusing on atheists.
>>676992223
one off but still quads of truth
>>676991482
Nope, but my uncle used to make his own wine.
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>>676990404
That just makes you practical. It doesn't make you an atheist.
>>676992091
kill yourself retard
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>>676992540
Tricks?
Any secret leaf or herb or whatnot?>>676992540
>>676992492
Doesn't seem like it if your not using the god from "The Bible" and using the greek gods who are actually better than your god by the lessons they teach.
>Focus On Your Damn Christian GOD
>>676991694
Don't you mean 'obligated'? In either case, why should I be obligated to God for my existences when I have no evidence that he exists Himself or that he is at all concerned with me.
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>>676990707
>ignorance
>after I win
What does that make you?
Atheism is not believing in any gods, so anything atheists dont believe in is fair game.
>>676992704
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>>676992634
That makes me an atheist because of the baseless and seemingly false claims of any god, which is a higher power of some sort
>>676992952
Wow then no use in hating atheists then? You just countered yourself with logic faggot.
>>676992188
OH NO! I'm going to HELL for lying!
Nazareth was first referred to after 0 AD in the *THIRD* century! The last time the Flying Nazareth appeared on earth was 720 BC, when the Assyrians attacked. Very wise of God to cause Nazareth to disappear to save them from the Assyrian hordes! Such a loving GOD! I don't want to be in the lake of fire!
>>676981326
Trying to show that you are not an atheist again? well too bad, since you are not a theist, you are an athist, checkmate.
>>676981326
Why do retards respond to these threads? ill never understand it.
>>676992717
None that I could tell you about (due to my own ignorance) other than growing grapes the same way you'd grow any other plant.
