best career path thread
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best career path thread
>>676935001
pic sauce?
>>676935001
Good College -> Good Law School -> 175k starting salary at 25.
MMore
Be jew --> store up sheckles --> ---> Banker ---> Trick Goyim holocaust was real --> ????? --> steel beams ---> Profit
>>676935877
i'm married to a lawyer and kek you have no idea what you are talking about
>>676936727
No shit eh?
Mine was lucky to start at 80.
>>676936727
Your partner must have gone to a shitty law school, or practised law at a small firm / town.
Go ahead and look up standard salaries at firms in NY, or LA or Boston or DC and then come back.
>>676935001
learn to kick a football in middleschool/highschool -> go to college for free to kick a football -> make millions of dollars in the NFL kicking a football -> retired with millions by 40
>>676936955
>any amount of money is worth having to live in NY, LA or DC
>>676936990
Provided you don't explode your hip/knee/ankle when kicking the ball, you're set for life
>>676936990
But probably have brain damage for the rest of your life.
Why not play basketball instead. Same path, less risk of being a potato.
>>676937079
DC is kinda of a shitty city to be honest I have lived here my whole life it's pretty shitty to do not come here.
>>676937157
It's a penalty to hit the kicker. Most kickers dont get hit.
>>676937157
a kicker get brain damage? you could go months without even getting touched much less taking any significant contact
very few people grow up young with a motivation to be great kickers. millions of people grow up trying to play basketball.
good luck with your hoop dreams
>>676937157
>I never played sports
You know what kickers do at practice?
They sit in the empty side of the field and kick the ball for a few hours.
Basket ball players run constantly.
>>676936955
doesn't mean your going to get those jobs, there are also "lawyers" with 100K+ student debt, working in a windowless basement office in Manhattan, doing meaningless petty work for 25-30k a year because there are way too many fucking law school students entering the job market. It's extremely competitive and only the best of the best get the top tier jobs.
>>676937369
>>676937537
>>676937582
I'm not american, I didn't know how the game was played. Thanks for the info.
>>676937171
lol guyz i make money with survery downloads! lulz!
>>676935001
emperor
Electrical Engineering
>>676937582
tall dudes, who run around constantly, and put extreme stress on their joints, most will be lucky to make it past a college career with out their knees giving out
>>676936955
Yeah, I bet you made partner in a couple of years also. Major kek
Gener studies
>>676937625
OP was asking for the best, not the most realistic.
Do I know that those jobs are hard to get? Of course. I never implied they were easy.It all depends on you going to a good law school, and doing well.
Become a doctor. Spend half your life in school, accumulate shit ton of debt. get ulcers trying to help people who largely don't deserve it.
Source: 4th year medfag
>>676937842
I worked as an electrician's assistant in Sweden for a month. Got around 6k $ for it. Pretty cool considering I had no education or work experience and the fact that I was 16.
>>676938030
What does this have to do with anything?
>>676935001
Learn english grammer
Go to college as a technical writer
Get out and get an entry level job writing
Work your way up
Become technical editor by 27
Make fat stacks
Blow your brains out at 40 because of the tedium
physical therapist is one of the most in demand jobs and safe to pursue and starts around $40/hr
>>676938729
It was showing how little anon knew about law professionals
>>676938729
You know what thread you're in, dummy?
>>676938859
Be wary in the states soon you will need to have a masters
Suicide. You win if you dont play
>>676935001
For you? Gay prostitution you flaming homo.
>>676935074
ur mom
>>676938904
>>676938968
But I never said anything about making partner. And I would never depend on that as a career path, because that is was too unlikely.
But considering that greater than 50% of people at the top 15 or so law schools get those 175k jobs I was talking about, that isn't unrealistic.
>>676939383
Again you are showing how ignorant you are of the subject. Law is not a good career path right now unless daddy has a firm you can work at
>>676935001
find a job/career that makes you happy because plenty of depressed, drug addled rich people. be rich. be poor. just be what feels right for you as long as you aren't hurting others fuck what anyone else thinks.
Trade school -> Become crane operator or high pressure welder -> Have no life but make $150,000+ per year doing camp work (oil, mining, construction,etc.). I know crane operators and welders who are making $250,000+ per year but they practically live in hotel rooms for months at a time (I did it for a while, I'd work for 2-3 months straight then take 4-6 weeks to go travel).
I now teach English in Thailand and live a much more relaxing life with my wife and soon to be born daughter.
I was a red seal crane operator in the Alberta oil patch for over 5 years. I have no debt, a house and condo I own outright in Canada and Thailand. Nice truck and motorcycle. And a pretty respectable bank account while having travelled much or South America and Asia.
Fuck college, get into trades. There is more jobs and less competition in them.
>>676939552
So tell me why I'm wrong. I'm look at facts and data, and you aren't even giving me a argument.
Average salary of a graduate / school / percentage of students reporting
Chicago / 160k / 97%
Columbia / 160k / 96%
Northwestern / 160k / 96%
Harvard / 160k / 95%
NYU / 160k / 94%
Standford / 160k / 92%
Duke / 160k / 92%
Penn / 160k / 91%
Berkeley / 160k / 84%
Where am I going wrong in thinking that if you are a good student at a good school you will do well?
>>676940028
Nothing wrong with going to college, unless you are legit fucking retarded. I'm at UW Seattle right now, but I have friends who are making 90-110k at top tech companies. Heck, my summer internship paid me 9k/month.
>>676940449
Oh now goes the qualifier of "good" student.
Also this
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/08/25/opinion/too-many-law-students-too-few-legal-jobs.html?referer=&_r=0
On average people with a law degree are not going to be making fat stacks right off the bat. They will have huge debt burdens, and years of ulcer inducing work ahead of them. I have an ex roommate who will be taking the bar soon, he has over 100k in loans and he has a job offer that starts him at 70k a year. Only do law if you are guaranteed a job
>>676940821
total bullshit, the post
>>676938363
bitch please. medschool only takes a year long than any masters degree... hell if you are going for a phd as a non medfag chances are that will take longer than a MD
>>676939001
>impyling it's hard to get a masters
>>676935001
Be awkward in high school
Be picked on
Learn how to be funny
Go to college
Study what you are both good at and enjoy doing
Learn how to make friends and date
Travel the world
Become well-adjusted person
Get in shape
Learn how to dress
Date a med student
You are now a funny, well-adjusted, fit, well-dressed person, working in a field you enjoy, and married to a doctor.
>>676941914
I was implying it wasnt worth it
>>676941211
I actually said here: >>676938133
that you have to do well at a good school.
The reason that the averages are skewed is because there are a lot of shitty no name law schools in the country, and those graduates are completely fucked. I agree with that whole heartedly. I would never advocate going to one of those schools if that was your only option.
But this does not invalidate the success of people who attend the top schools, which is always who I was talking about.
All those schools I listed about DO in essence guarantee you a job. They all have 90+ percent employment rates.
>>676941467
Wait, are you autistic, or just retarded? You do realize that Google, Amazon, Microsoft, and the other top tech companies pay around 8-10k/month, right? But you probably work at McDonalds, so I don't blame you.
>>676942262
To be fair, I think he was doubting that the information applied to you in particular, not that it was false.
Could be wrong though.
>>676942262
>Working at Google, Amazon, or Microsoft
Good fucking luck you neet
>>676941932
congrats your are a gold digging whore that thinks spending a doctors money to travel makes you smarter and better than other people when in reality you just sit around the house and drink wine all day while your kids turn into shitheads
>>676942144
I guess i was applying my own bias to best career path. I was weighing cost (financial, emotional, and physical) to benefit when determining the best. In my opinion, it isnt worth trying to make it into on of those top teir schools unless you are guaranteed good work and high pay. Which you could be, but is it worth it? But i agree if you have a law degree from one of the top ten law schools you should be ok
>>676940449
This is classic to see from someone who hasn't completed post secondary. I can't remember how many times I've seen charts like that. Fact is that unless you get lucky or have an in then you're an unpaid/underpaid intern. Which you may or may not be able to afford. Not just with lawyers. You remind me of my 15 year old cousin who's "either going to be a forensic anthropologist or a medical examiner". They should tell you in school that real life doesn't work like that. Getting your degree is the easiest part. Shit happens.
>>676940449
Dumbest fucking post I read today. You're obviously 12 and have no real concept of life yet so I'll let it slide. I can tell you that I live in NYC and chances of getting picked up at a firm with 6 figure pay right outta law school is slim to none these days. Plus you even posted $175k and all numbers you posted after with school is lower by $15k. Just go masturbate in the corner until you're old enough to buy cigarettes.
Just use your brains and get a job in infosec.
I've only got 5 solid years of civilian experience, and making $160k plus bonuses.
It helps to have military experience, but not absolutely necessary. I just hired a kid straight out of college for $90k into a pentester role.
Plus, the more we rely on technology, we're just cementing the need for infosec professionals. Essentially, it's a recession-proof market. Permanent job if you don't suck at it.
>>676942262
90k as in starting salary... right?
>>676942623
Yeah, right... they recruit here anyways kek. You will probably be serving my Starbucks for me anon, so I don't mind that at all.
>>676942262
yeah man google paid you, a random fucker with no degree, $9K a month in the summer to intern and fill up the coffee maker and put papers in the printer.
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>>676942930
Hope you like semen with your coffee
>>676942889
I wanna get into geospatial, should i go into the military?
>>676935001
Industrial Engineering, Management Science, anything in analytics
>>676942912
Yes, I've seen a handful of asian and white kids at my school get jobs at prop trading firms making a lot more, but those are the best of the bests.
>>676943021
Haha, you better hope Bernie wins. I'll be paying taxes for your welfare check with my six figure salary anon.
>>676937280
People who think it's shitty here are usually natives who don't realize how shitty it is everywhere else
>>676935001
petroleum engineering
>>676935001
Go to Syria ---> Join ISIS ---> Praise Allah ---> Allahu Ackbar *Boom* ---> Fully restore the Caliphate
Oh yeah and kill Kurds too
>>676943296
Na man, I ain't no cuck
>>676943124
4 years in the army here
its a waste of time and you will mostly be doing dumb shit like mowing grass and painting rocks even as "military intelligence" just go civilian
>>676942826
i guess that depends on the field then. i m a dev and i dont know anybody that had to do that internship bullshit to get hired...
>>676943302
Lol
No
>>676935877
Most lawyers make less than RNs and that's a two year degree
>>676938859
Would have thought you guys started higher than that with the amount of education required. I started off at 40 straight out of school as an RN. Guess it all depends on geographic location though.
>>676942816
That's a fair point to make. It might not be worth it in the end. But it's still true that those are the numbers. Two different arguments.
>>676942826
How do you account for the fact that these are averages, then? Maybe you have to be lucky to get into one of these school (not even that's true, some of them have really high acceptance rates) but surely the average graduate isn't a lucky one.
>>676942875
The reason the figures are 15k lower is because they don't include the 15k bonuses.
Also, how do you account for the numbers in the post, then. What's your explanation?
Look, I'm not saying that I'm right in the absolute. The difference is that nobody has yet shown me why the data is false. Or why there is some other explanation for it.
>>676935001
Nurse anesthetist
Data scientist
>>676943424
Yeah but they want that tsci. And they want you to have it for four years. I figure the easiest way would be military. Also i have a degree and im getting kinda old so it prob isnt worth it
>>676943543
Srsly medical certification programs are where the moneys at.
>>676938440
Inte ens första året i EE?
>>676943124
goarmy.com/careers-and-jobs/browse-career-and-job-categories/construction-engineering/geospatial-engineer.html
But I also agree with >>676943424 ... during my eight years in the Army, I did my actual job (INFOSEC) for a cumulative total of maybe two years? The rest of the time was filing paperwork, doing PT, painting, putting together furniture, yelling at privates who were too slow putting together furniture, etc.
>>676942742
I'm a guy. My wife is the doctor. All my traveling was on my own dime. Everybody's better than *some* other people. It's a question of what people and how many of them. I'm a way better person for having traveled the world for six years. I mean just comparing my after travel vs me before travel, it's obvious. In experiencing more of the world, diid I also become better than some other people? Yeah, definitely. Am I saying I'm better than you? Well, if you've never left your home country, I'd say there's a pretty good chance your worldview is a lot more narrow than mine. If you don't think having a narrow worldview means anything, then I doubt I could convince you that it does. Lastly I have a job and we don't have any kids, but I *DO* enjoy wine, so you really nailed me there.
>>676943700
>Data Scientist
>mein_neger.png
>>676940449
Lawfag here. Worked as District Attorney, in Large Firm, and solo. Made most money as solo, but still just about $200,000 and that's after years.
Average is going to be around $50-75k first year out unless you're working 90 hours a week in a megafirm, and then when you break it down (I did, because I lived it) you're making $12.00 an hour.
You usually don't get crazy bank until you make junior partner or partner, and then you get to start sucking the associates dry.
Be smart - Become get a pharmacy degree or dentistry degree, print your own money, and work 4 days a week.
/based anon out
>>676936990
Not going to lie, ID be ashamed if my kid was a professional kicker. Like lots of money, cool, but to get good enough at a task that is complete in all of a few seconds and then spend your life honing that task. Pretty sad.
>>676943537
http://www.payscale.com/college-salary-report/majors-that-pay-you-back/bachelors
>>676935001
be good at math ---> dont fucking do finances unless you are a jew ---> do literally anything else ----> ez life
>>676943711
Oh if you have a degree, just go to OCS, learn your job, boss others around, and get a Director or VP role with a defense contractor immediately as soon as you separate.
>>676943871
>implying there is work
>>676943297
i can make half the salary somewhere else live a better life, bigger house, a yard and not have to deal with homeless drug addict niggers asking me for change every day while I ride my bike to work because the traffic is shit and go home to my tiny studio apartment that is noisy as fuck every night
literally everything in DC is overpriced 300%+ and all the restaurants and bars reek of body oder from the stinky faggots walking/biking around all day eating tapas for $40
if you think DC life is good its because you haven't ever lived anywhere that isn't total shit
Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country
Entrepreneurs are the true heroes of society and the only worthwhile way to live. Get good at life, faggots
>>676937842
good luck resisting autism and becomming a basement dweller. I live with an EE student, the little prick does nothing apart from bitching about linux all day, like the rest of the EE students here.
>>676944001
No shit? Im 27 is that too old, i might actually do this
>>676944041
True petro has been hit hard recently
>>676944133
No sir, you have until your 35th birthday to complete OCS. Go for it.
>>676944078
Says the unemployed faggot living in his moms basement
>>676943557
$40/hr in NC is a lot of money when the minimum wage is $7.25
>>676944041
Fair point, they don't include employment rates.
>>676944221
Yeah if you can find work petro engineer is a damn fine job
>>676943336
Hey, you seem like a cool guy. We should skype sometime. What's your skype, bud?
>>676944306
Sweet. I need to start running, which branch would you suggest?
Drug dealer
Get to meet a lot of interesting people
Money is all tax free
>>676944133
What is ocs?
>>676944483
>What is google
>>676936955
or they were all fucking women and everyone knows women make less money. rightfully.
>>676943711
clearance is literally the only perk you will get out of the job but don't expect to actually do anything related to your job in the military
like
>>676944001
said if you do it at least get your degree first and go in as an officer so you get out of some of the fuck fuck games... but it will still mostly be sucking cock and telling people to paint rocks for 4 years
>>676944483
Officer Candidate School
recently lost my job in a bank for manipulating working time counters.. had me work around 100h less a year than all the others. was possible because I was in a leading position.
now i'm having to apply for new jobs, which sucks.
>>676938110
i'm clicking but nothing's happening HALP
>>676944436
It really depends. For geospatial? Army or Air Force.
Air Force is definitely the cushier gig, but you might get a little more respect going Army. They're all pretty much equal though.
>>676944473
This is actually a legit response (minus the "interesting" people).
>>676944321
NC seems like a pretty nice place. Been looking into it more and more... Might have to start researching some hospitals in the smaller cities around Raleigh...like Apex or Cary or something.
>>676944363
Oh hey! It's Ivan_the_Insurgent :^)
>>676944678
Thanks anon. I will get ready to tell people to paint rocks like this anon said>>676944577
>>676944550
Tried it. Came up with a cleaning facilities company.. figured that wasn't right so i asked.
Rekt fgt
>>676944314
Employed by my own company.. not sure if that's unemployed?
I find it contemptible that you find being employed by someone else to make them money for a pittance, a proud achievement in your life?
sad
>>676936537
Under8d post
>>676935001
Just become a trap and use your boipussi to get men to buy you stuff.
Paint secretly , sell it to collectors without a gallerist.
>>676944694
Well it depends what you sell. If you sell highly addictive and highly damaging drugs like crack, meth, heroin then yes the people you meet/sell to will 99% of the time be drug addled dickheads.
Plenty of people take acid, mdma, smoke weed etc now and again who are normal people and contribute to society the same as non drug users.
I fully understand that there is plenty who take drugs too far regardless of which drug it is but I find those people even without drugs would find some way of destroying themselves and/or those around them.
>>676944983
This is what everyone should be doing to be honest. I'll definitely start my own consulting business in my field of study when I get older.
>>676945082
Yeah totally! I've made -$110.54 doing this!
>>676944983
Sitting at home selling pot is not a business it's pathetic.
>>676944983
Gay male prostitution is not a company.
Literally become a neurologist, easy 300,000$ / year .
>>676944962
Learn to google
>Land on island ruled by your mother country
>Get arrested for your life style and beliefs
>Some ruffians steal the leader of the islands daughter
>Be free'd by the woman's wannabe lover
>Agree to help him retrieve her
>Gratz you are now Captain Jack Sparrow
>>676935877
Look at unemployment rates for law school graduates
>>676945505
check my quads
>>676945375
Not yet but wait till the forms for the LLC go through. Then I'll be taking dicks and cash left and right
>>676945595
Check'd
>>676935877
wow you are a fucking retard.
Insurance sales/street options
> become a neurologist
>>676945564
>>676945805
See all my other posts.
I'm not talking about ALL students from ALL possible law schools. I'm talking about the top 10-15 law schools. Those schools have employment rates of 90%+.
Unemployment rates for all lawyers count the guy who graduated Magna from Harvard the same as someone who graduated from the bottom of his class at Joe's School O' law in the middle of rural Kansas. I don't think their employment outcomes will be the same.
Become world class rapper
Kill yourself and live off royalty checks
>>676945990
and stay in academia/???
> hahahahahahahahahaahahahahaaha
>>676937157
Cause I don't wanna hang with all the niggers
>>676946097
What?
You clearly have no idea what you're talking about.
undecided
just be great at everything
>>676946137
Right. Luckily no black people play football.
>>676943855
yeah if my kid hit the game winning field goal in the superbowl i would be like
"what a faggot, you should have been defending DUI charges for white trash in court instead"
>>676943966
be good at math -> become auditor -> get jews thrown in jail -> be rich as fuck
>>676946333
Truth
>witnessed
Affiliate Marketing. Sit on your ass all day, make websites, promote and advertise products on your website, you get a commission if some random nigger buys something. It's a little more complicated than that, but that's the basic jist.
How much does a Job in the nucleaire sector earn? And what are the right sudies?
>>676935001
> get any job at a company
> injure yourself
> sue company because of safety and regulations
My cousin made an easy 220k this way
>stupid child who doesnt understand what the real world is like trying to tell actual oldfags how it is because he read some bullshit statistics online
>>676935001
Theone that will make you most content and happy. Alternatively you could choose one which demonstrates worldly success so when you're a soulless shell at 50 you can look upon the worldly goods you've amassed and give yourself a pat on the back
>>676947047
That's not how the real world works
>>676935001
Don't even have to read the other posts.
Look at Forbes magazine. Majority top richest are real estate property owners.
>>676944102
Must be a shitty school if all they're doing Linux.
Best career path: Carving your own.
With the internet, there is no excuse not to pursue your passion. The only thing that matters in the socioeconomic game is making enough money to get by. And there are so many ways to do that while fulfilling that passion. It's not about the upscale house or fancy car - what no one really needs, it's about the most precious currency there is, time. Are you living on your terms, or someone else's?
I personally do internet marketing, and it gives me the entire day to live as we as humans were meant to live, without these self-imposed duties (though you're still serving other people somehow, which is actually a blessing), while making a fantastic living. If something doesn't give you that, it just isn't worth it imo.
There is always a way for you guys, you just have to be willing to find the way that works for you.
>>676944102
I am in the 3rd year. Already a basement dweller, and autistic people make bank in engineering. I wish i was autistic.
>>676935877
Best?
Most steady would be most any engineering degree. They are hell to get through though in terms of math. I'm autistic as fuck and would do best in this field but won't even try cause I'm intimidated like fuck with the math they make you do.
Business is good if your personality reflects such.
Currently I'm in automotive repair. It's nice but you're very limited with income.
>>676947047
How is it being 20?
>>676943543
Really? Nowadays, hospitals in major cities are phasing out RNs with Associate Degrees. BS's are the new requirement for today's nursing force.
I just never thought lawyers would be making less than 70k.
>>676944763
Apex/Cary is beautiful. Tons of people relocate to that area. My girlfriends parents live there and her mom (RN) works for Duke medical. 3x12 hour shifts a week, 4 days off and $100,000/yr in one of the cheapest cost of living states without the city headache is the good life.
Great state. Born in NC lived in many other places but all of them were pretty shit in comparison. East coast beaches are the best, couple hours to the mountains and seasons without the extremes. Cheap gas, cheap food, big yards, friendly neighbors, low crime.
>>676947230
This is the real answer OP. I went to school with a Chinese exchange student, and his parents had properties in China (of course), Australia, Canada, and California. That motherfucker even bought me a plane ticket to Florida
>>676947374
But you probably live at home and are still coddled by your parents and make little to no money being an "internet marketer."
This is not really viable at all in today's terms.
Currently working at McDonald's as a manager finishing my Business Associate at the community college. Thinking about trying out for the JET program and become an english aid in japan, maybe then try to go for a teaching degree over there. Is this a sound idea?
>>676935001
Depends. I'll g fro a trades point of view.
I you live on the coast, or grown up scuba diving an such start learning to weld / fit / etc. And work towards commercial diving. Underwater welder have a career of about 8-10 years, but make 230 - 300k a year. After that you can weld anywhere with the qualifications.
I you live more inland and don't have the opportunity to do that. Get into plumbing or HVAC. They average 90k + a year an usually hav company vehicles and stuff.
>>676945838
>friend graduated
>shitty psychology degree
>state farm offers job selling insurance
>$10/hr
Health Care IT. Two year junior college degree. $77k. 28 years old. Rural Illinois. Thanks Obama for the ARRA!!!
There is still lots of demand and you can easily slide into other industries.
Swimming in poon and relative stress free living.
>>676947937
You wanna give aids to people in Japan?
>>676947614
It's an unfortunate shift... ADNs typically have more hands on beside hospital experience. I got hired as an ADN before getting my BSN... lots of hospitals will still hire you so long as you show them you're working towards that higher degree. Stupid magnet status bullshit.
Airline pilot is pretty cool as well.
Most require a 4 yr degree. Doesn't matter the major, as long as it's from a university.
Airline school is pretty easy to get through and cheaper than a 4 yr degree, but again, you have to get a 4 yr degree before big airlines will even consider hiring you so you're gonna have to pay for both.
>>676947980
According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, commercial divers and underwater welders have a mean (average) hourly wage of $26.32, while the mean annual wage is approximately $54,750.
Additionally, the top percentile (90%) can make approximately $93,910 or more.
230-300k a year? Really?
>>676948134
Central or southern illinois
>>676947937
Great idea, but you should probably practice your Japanese more. Maybe try watching more chinese cartoons with english subtitles on
>>676945501
got the same results as the other guy, you probably have some sort of local or personalised results
I'm getting my AS in paralegal studies and BS in public administration. I was told it was a good idea.
>>676947777
Thanks. I'll check Duke Medical out. WIll be relocating hopefully next year after I finish my stupid FNP program :/
>>676948140
Hey man, their population and birth rates are in the tanks. Just doing my part to help.
>>676940028
Are the ladyboys as amazing as they appear on asianstreetmeat?
>>676948246
That's not right... im a production welder making rail cars and make 28 an hour.
>>676948351
Just shitposting. Don't mind me.
>>676948357
ANYTHING is a good idea as long as you're willing to work. Relocation is another key. Most don't wanna leave their parents' bumfuck town and end up working a job unrelated to their major.
>>676946652
Your cousin is a worthless waste of space who takes from society and bitches when they have to give. Just my assumption.
>>676948495
You're making less than $2 more than the average wage. That's pretty right on in my book.
>>676948170
I really don't know how I feel about it yet. I do agree AS RNs have more technical knowledge, BS RNs supposedly has more textbook and leadership knowledge.
Hospitals now boast that BS RNs provide for better patient outcomes.
Congrats on getting a BSN though! Do you think you'll be going for NP?
I'm a fresh BS grad and am hunting for jobs now.
>>676947865
If that's what you make of me in your mind. I can afford, both monetarily and figuratively in the grand scheme of my life, to use an hour or two out of my day to browse 4chan. The question is, can you? It's only not viable if you make it so. There are so many people who have broken the barrier already, there's no reason a few people on 4chan can't be inspired and actually make it, though your post is kind of discouraging that notion.
>>676948246
>>676948495
BLS is meh, looks like they clumped up other welders into that category, and anon specifically said underwater welder. They do indeed make six figures, but they probably lose 10 years of their life working under those shitty conditions. I read that you can potentially go blind as well, so is it worth it? Maybe
>>676943966
im good at math and will do finances in a year since im a jew blood so ez money ez life
>>676948495
Take it up the the BLS then.
But for what it's worth, I'll take their statistics, who use the entire country as a sample size, over your anecdotal evidence.
300k for an underwater welder doesn't seem a little insane to you? For fucks sake a Supreme Court Judge makes 220.
>>676948838
Currently in a FNP program actually. New grad market is tough right now! Keep on applying. Having that bachelors degree really does help put you ahead of a lot of the competition!
>>676941211
I know about 3 lawyers. Only one appears to be making any money.
>>676948277
Central
>>676948985
You don't have to be great at math to get through business school. There's a greater emphasis on leadership skills than math in the programs. Speaking publicly; how to speak properly; how to write properly; etc.. Math is a very tiny portion of the major.
>>676948246
That is because it is combined with commercial divers
>>676940028
Requesting pic of wife
>>676947374
this tbh
>>676949065
Woah FNP! Congrats! Keep it up! I look forward to calling you a college someday! Thanks for the motivation!
Cheers!
>>676949244
Ahh, southern fag here
>>676949090
>>676949129
>>676949172
>>676949209
>5_Bimbo_jobs_01.jpg
where?
>>676940449
lol "standford"
how's middle school going, fag?
doing what you love
>>676941211
friend's gf has a law degree from some decent school, 300k debt, makes 50k/yr. lol
>>676949397
>>676949065
LOL misspelled colleague. That's what I get for typing on mobile.
>>676941721
you have no idea what you're talking about
>>676935001
be the only one in the village with technology
>>676935001
cosplayer.
you can fuck bitches all day like me.
she'd come over sometimes while her boyfriend was away after school.

once the door would close she'd almost instantly get naked. most times she'd put on her favorite song and start sucking. then she would cry. her tears and makeup would drip down her face onto my dick. its surprising how cold tears are. eventually i finally asked her what was wrong. in between licks she told me that her favorite song was also her bfs favorite song. so even though she loved hearing it and it totally got her pussy wet, it also made her think about the fact that she was cheating on her boyfriend. i dont think i ever came harder down somebodies throat then right after she told me that. she was beautiful. we dont hang out anymore. wanna get lunch?

this was the song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSPe8dIJEtw
>>676949255
Seems just fine by me. Although it's a bit saddening that there isn't as much math as I tought.
>>676949622
Then she probably didn't have high grades, or the school isn't as decent as you thought. A lot of shit schools cost a lot of money.
>>676949255
90% of business majors end up being some variation of telemarketer
portfolio manager? oh you mean guy who calls people and asks for their money
insurance and finance? of you mean guy that calls people and asks for their money
etc...
if this is seriously what you want to do the best thing you can do is try to get in to a call center at your school calling and asking for donations as a resume builder and practice for your professional career of lying and dick sucking on the phone
>>676949916
Or the work isnt out there unless you know somebody
>>676935001
Don't have shamefully tiny asian penis
>>676950031
How do you explain the 90%+ plus employment rates at the top schools, then?
I'm sure whoever graduated top of her class isn't making 50k.
>>676949969
Financial accounting seems fine
>>676948098
>friend
>psychology degree
you let your "friend" waste their time obtaining waste. Some friend kek
>>676946612
Empower Network, pls go
>>676937280
You just want all the shekels to yourself
>>676949622
Obviously she is not shistering enough
>>676950263
Im not having this conversation with you again. Also the reason top schools have a high rate of people getting jobs is because...shockingly they are rich and know people *GASP* Did you ever think maybe that was why?
>>676950503
check my trips
>>676947559
Take some entrepreneurship and business classes and start your own shop, fam.
>>676950297
Not easy to get larger positions starting out.
I know a lady who works for UBS and handles ALL incoming and outgoing money and she said it's not easy starting there even as an advisor. She said you have to pretty much be bought from another firm. A lot of money though. She said you're compensated for the first 7 years in advance. She didn't say how much but said the figure is crazy as fuck.
>>676948134
What in the fuck is Health Care IT?
>>676950382
girl with rich parents who paid for her to go to private school for five years.
she will do alright.
>>676950832
Are you retarded?
Accounting
>>676950832
I'm pretty sure he just means IT in the.... healthcare industry. My brother is a manager at PG&E for one of the IT sectors, and he makes $190k/year. Good money and easy job
>>676949065
MD>FNP
Should have went to medical school, dumbass. I will never ever ever fucking see an NP again.
>>676950832
Hospitals these days rely on high tech procedures. Especially in surgeries and more specialized wings, they need IT departments to ensure patient safety.
It really is a decent field to get into.
>>676950762
It's hard as fuck that is true, there are too many things going on at the same time. Starting might be easier by getting into some small company that does accounting for another companies who don't have their own accountants, that's the way i see it
>>676950382
My sister has a psychology degree, she is a consultant in a hospital, she specializes in counseling patients with terminal diseases.
She earns a lot of money and feels like she does some good/makes a difference. She was very close to doing a journalism degree but she now sees that as a lucky escape.
I think she would have been a different person if she had went into journalism.. i think to be a successful journalist you have to fuck people over to greater or lesser degrees to get a story.
The point is what you see as waste is just that a perception.
One man's trash is another man's treasure.
>>676944656
>>676949023
No it doesn't and welders generally work on contract, not on a salary.
Underwater welders careers are max 10 years because of the conditions, and the skill required. There's a small space for the right people, it's a very niche job. Only young fit skilled people can do it.
UKfag here, in the computing field. What countries pay higher in the IT/Computer field cos from what it looks like, it isn't much over here.
I just want a high paying and fun job.
inb4
>high paying
>fun
>pick one
>>676951012
this
>>676951003
Not even gonna respond.
>>676951033
Doing what exactly? I know exactly what the fuck IT is but what did this dumb fuck mean by health care IT? Like doing IT work for a health care facility?
>>676948596
I live in a town where you kinda need a car which I don't have. I do have money and wouldn't mind moving to a city where there's an abundance of public transportation.
Any other public administration majors here?
>>676951151
Journalist here. You arent far off. But what you consider fucking people over, is usually presenting the truth no matter who it effects
>>676951052
While MDs are more lucrative than NPs, the jobs are completely different.
The advantages of NPs is focus on bedside care and manner. NPs do the more menial MD's duties so the MD can focus on more critical cases. Also, NPs are cheaper to hire.
They have their place. Best of luck trying to avoid NPs since modern hospitals are hiring more NPs to replace their less specialized MDs.
>>676951061
How do you get in?
Computer Science from a good university.
I have a computer science degree myself.
I work as a recruiter for HFT firms. Some really specialized stuff.
I have placed developers visualization engineers for $350k+ and low latency engineers for $250+
>>676950553
50% of Harvard law students are receiving needs-based financial aid.
57% of Yale students
80% of Stanford students.
They aren't all rich.
>>676951151
Does she steal booze from dead patients homes my x wife does that
History.
At least I like it :C
>>676951345
You did respond dummy.
i half assed my way through life doing IT and i haven't made less than 100k since I was 26. pretty sure i just get paid to sit around and jerk it under my desk.
>>676951260
my bad i thought you said Underwear weilder
>>676951491
Hey, I like history too. I love WWII and Soviet shit. Be a history teacher man.
>>676951287
What uni did you study at?
>>676936955
Howard Capendale Business Law School for the Best
HCBLSB ... its 200k degree my friend
>>676951386
I can pick practically any fucking MEDICAL DOCTOR I want. My insurance is great, sweetie. Keep telling yourself that you're equal to a doctor when you're really not. The only job advantage you have is that they give you a prescription pad.
>>676951437
Haha, I doubt it but i don't know for sure. I think she can afford her own booze though. Also, i think she sees them in hospital not their own home.
>>676951399
I'm not quite sure. I'm not a part of the field. I'm a nurse and just know they exist. It is a newly blooming field and it definitely is worth looking into.
>>676951580
How?
>>676951491
I'm so sorry.
>>676951739
That's nice honey, go wipe some asses.
>>676951649
In the In the top 50 tbh
>>676951681
I never said I was equal to a doctor. Are you butthurt for some reason? Would you like a prescription for it?
Oh btw, I never said I was an NP.
>>676951434
No they arent but do your stats match? Is that 50% of graduated students recieved funding? If not, your claim hardly makes sense because out of those 50% maybe only 10% actually graduated and those 10% are the ones who didnt find work, you see. I also dont understand why you have such a hard on about this
>>676951895
Was it in London?
>>676951864
Luckily, my institution has that job for the nurse's aids or LPNs. I've never had to deal with shit clean up.
>>676951744
Let's pretend the OP found work right out of high school doing petty IT shit and got some shitty certifications along the way. He does this for 8 years, and now he is making money with this 8 years worth of experience, probably holds a senior title now as well.
>>676951997
Yeah,in london
>>676951580
Do you need a degree in IT? I am teaching myself python and I enjoy it.
>>676951951
And you never will be.
Also CRNA >FNP or NP. Just saiyan. If you're gonna aim, aim high, dumbass.
>>676952144
City University?
UCL?
>>676952111
So you make other people wipe asses? Pretty sure in your nursing school training, they taught you how to wipe asses.
>>676944808
my skype: Vladimir_not_FSB
add me
>>676952204
Actually, I'm on the CRNA track. So thanks!
BTW, CRNAs, FNP, PNP, or ADRN are all colleagues.
>>676952264
One of those two :^)
>>676952282
They taught us just in case we had to go to a rural area where there aren't Aides or LPNs. I'm trained, but never really had to do it on the job.
>>676952185
Not the same guy but I was wondering that as well. I plan on getting my A+ and then my CCNA and CCNP.
Maybe even some Micro$oft certs too.
>>676952410
City?
>>676951377
I knew a girl who was famous, not a big deal famous but well known.
She got pregnant after a one night stand and she was posting in a closed group on facebook because she was worried/scared.
Next thing she knew a story appeared in a paper giving all the details and what looked like quotes from her given to the person who wrote the story. they were in fact posts she had made in that group. She had never spoke to any journalist and didn't know about the story until it appeared in the paper.
Now you can say she deserved etc and i don't give a fuck. I won't argue against that because i don't care but what that journalist did was befriended her on Facebook (not like posing as a friend, just sent a friend request), looked at the groups she was a member of and joined those groups, then lurked in the hope of something juicy.
They never talked to the girl and then wrote a story and forgot about her.
I think it is creepy, sly and devious.
>>676952372
Yeah but CRNA's make more. Fuck being a colleague, it's about being the elite. Guess they didn't teach you that in nursing school, slut.
>>676952466
So if you don't live in a rural area as a RN, you don't have to wipe ass is what you're telling me?
>>676943871
>http://www.payscale.com/college-salary-report/majors-that-pay-you-back/bachelors
"Counseling" is worse than expected
>>676952749
Counselors don't make shit, man.
>>676952587
"Elite" If you are so worried about becoming an "elite" why are you wasting your time on this board? Why not spend your time more productively like other "elites"?
Also, I'm a guy, but I guess I am a bit of a slut.
>>676952695
In urban private hosptials, Yes. You won't need to wipe ass.
>>676951984
Those stats of for incoming students, not graduating ones, but seeing as they all have graduation rates above 95%, it's pretty much also for graduating students.
Also I don't. I'm trying to understand, yet nobody has been able to present anything resembling an argument for why the stats aren't true, or why they are misleading.
>>676952987
If you're a guy, you should have became a fucking doctor. That was your mistake. Wow. Just wow. Hopefully you DO become a CRNA and at least do something with that because otherwise, you're just an advanced practice nurse in my eyes.
Also, I didn't ask you.
>>676952545
Sounds like a fly by night operation. The place i work at doesnt bother with that shit. We focus on local politics and events and sports. We may have some clickbaity titles but we dont do the local celeb bullshit. There is a paper in our area that does that, and they are the worst group of bone pickers ever. It is just a gossip rag, but the people drink it up. It is sad, because we tell the news and this other paper has more subscribers and they just pander for subs. Sucks that happened to her, and it sound like that journalist needs to brush up on her ethics
>>676952987
>male nurse
>>676952500
One of those two :^)
>implying i'd bait myself out on /b/
>>676951377
>presenting the truth no matter who it effects
Hahahahahahaha. I hope you're not saying that from within America.
>>676953311
check'd
>>676953365
/thread
Fuck American journalists.
>>676953283
make bank, surrounded by single women who are making bank
what a terrible job...
>>676940028
Have you banged any of them slutty ladyboys yet??
>>676953220
Nursing and Doctors are vastly different jobs. I didn't want to be a doctor. I didn't want to get into 200k + worth of debt and be in slavery for 8 years just to be able to break even at age 28-30. The average time a doctor spends with the patient is only 5 min. The rest of their day is paperwork. That's not where I want to be. I'm not really worried about becoming an "elite" nor am i really concerned about money. I guess I'm lucky in those aspects.
>>676953229
Well that is the type of journalism I meant, not sports, politics or even investigative journalism. That kind of journalism is actually vital because there are some things that need to be exposed in the public interest.
There was no public interest in the story I was talking about other than a lurid interest in gossip like you said.
She had to tell people that she was pregnant and then had to tell them when she had an abortion when she decided she couldn't keep it (she literally didn't know the guy).
>>676952997
You cant assume that. I have also put information up that shows that the market is saturated. And that 95% work found after graduation rate, can be because the majority of people in that school know somebody. So if op doesnt know anybody it is pointless for him to amass that debt. Mind you if you go to one of those schools you will be more likely to find work, but that doesnt mean you will have 160k the first year
>>676953283
Yeah. Nursing school was freaking heaven. only 10% of my class was male. I had the pick of the litter!
>>676953435
>>676953365
>implying network broadcasters are journalists
Read a paper bitch
>>676952112
exactly actually. cissp at a mid sized corp in a big city
>>676953644
>nursing
>making bank
>>676953658
Whatever, murse.
>>676953820
Nigga, step up.
>>676953658
200k is nothing if you are a doctor, but like you said, it's not for everyone. My teacher told us that her husband had around 250k in debt, but he is making decent money for a doctor, like 180k
>>676954033
New grad Nurse here. Starting salary in my area: 85k.
I'm happy.
>>676953676
Yeah thats gutter journalism. Too bad that brings in big bucks.
>if you dont want to see it, dont read it
Not you necessarily, it is just the fact. We would love to ignore some stories, but when you need that revenue it gets hard to ignore. Again the paper i work at doesnt do that, but ive done a few silly stories that made me scratch my head
>>676952481
i went the security route. just get a cissp and be done with it. easy job and high pay. i didn't have a degree then but did finish one later in life.
>>676953756
Oh, I bet. Learning how to wipe asses, all those fucking clinicals, such a great great job. Not. No wonder majority of nurses are women because most men are smarter and go into better fields. But not you, cuck.
>be qt
>marry
>live life of luxury forever with endless opportunities
>>676954237
Where you get one of those at?
>>676954164
>thinking I believe that.
You either live in LA or some shit, fam.
>>676954321
weeb fuck off
>>676954349
it's just a cert. very in demand at the moment. study and take the test?
>>676954098
Ill give you a hint
(The news reports what you want to see, hear, read)
You control them m8, we are so worried about loss of revenue that if you dont buy our product we will change
>>676943758
This almost sounds like a pasta. Almost.
>>676954253
Sure thing buddy.
>>676954471
I meant where do you go to study and take the test? Is it just like any test where you get the material first and then take it or do they have places you can go and study this shit?
>>676953756
Bio major here on pre med track, I'm still undecided. I definitely don't want to go to medical school but I like the medical field, so I'm leaning towards a CRNA or a PA. At the same time, I wish environmental sustainability was a valid major/career path but I'm not delusional. I really don't know what I want to do with my life and typing this up turned me into an anxious wreck.
>>676954426
NYC. But yea. Love it here. Rent is high, but I love only working 3 days a week and earning 85k.
>>676945381
>easy
>>676953691
But your information is counting all schools, which I've already pointed out is not what im talking about. I would not go to those schools, and I think it would be a terrible idea. It is only a good idea if you go to one of those top schools.
Nobody said anything was 100% gaununteed. But if you consider the fact that 95% percent of people graduate, and of those 90%+ are employed, and of those a minimum 50% of them are making 160k+ then it is very, very, likely.
It's a situation where you are literally /more/ likely to get a job making 160k than not. Which is damn good odds if you ask me.
By the way, a lot of the ones who aren't making 160k is due to self-selection, because they go Clerk, or to academia, etc, and make less by choice.
And considering more than 50% of the class is making 160k, that's a damn good chance.
>>676954519
Pic related: what you dreamed to be
