Will you ever quit using opiates, /b/?
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Will you ever quit using opiates, /b/?
how did you know. I hope so man.
doubtful.
been chipping for 10 years...why mess with agood thing?
who is that
I want to so bad.. I string myself along, keeping my head above water buying my friends suboxone and then splurging all my money on real drugs when I get paid.. I'm afraid to detox because I know it would mean losing my job.. Its been 6 years and countless detox attempts later.. I'm getting older.. I've lost so much..
>>676816947
have you ever been to a rehab yet?
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nope but im not a junkyFag like you tho
I just cant buy into the whole 12 step thing man. It is horribly outdated and ignores so much new information. its a fucking cult that forces you in and shuns everybody who does not do it there way
Like Twain said, quittings easy, I've done it a thousand times
>>676817207
k
Even has an avid user, I still have a better career,home,wife, everything than you, I bet.
>>676817497
jk im a mess
When/why did you first start using? Where were you? How did it feel?
>>676817072
I have never been to Rehab.. I have really great support from my family.. However as much chaos as my addiction as cause, My family seems to just see it as something I'll get over on my own.. They don't currently know I have any issues because of my extremely steady supply of Suboxone..
>>676816947
There are certain state laws with jobs/getting fired/ going to a rehab. It may be considered, in your state, medical leave. You cant be fired for that if you are straight forward with it. Your life is more important than a job
>>676817917
You need to do a real detox my friend. One in an environment secluded from the outside world. it is EXTREMELY hard to detox by yourself using subs, without being inpatient. Being physically forced away from the world for 21-30 days really does the trick
>>676816058
sauce
Still new to it
This dope I have seems to be pretty weak though
Can anybody give me advice on how much I can sniff without going to far? Will I be satisfied once I get to a comfortable enough point or could I unexpectedly OD? I have a milligram scale
>>676818536
eh well how long have u been doing dope? what did you do before dope? how much of that did u need to get high?
>>676817937
Problem is that I was given a chance twice before from my Boss who is a really great guy. I was allowed time off to detox and then allowed back when I was ready.. We parted ways for a few years but I was hired back this year.. I was clean when I got hired on again but the way these things work.. I trickled back in to active addiction.. I don't exactly feel as hopeless as I may be acting.. I no longer have any desire to get hire. Recently I am able to have money in my pocket and not run out and buy drugs, although the fact that I'm on Suboxone is probably a factor in that.. I've started tapering off the suboxone and I plan to take a week off work here soon to get off it completely.. Its not the detox that worries me.. It's knowing myself.. Knowing how many times i've tried and failed. Told myself this was the last time, only to go straight back to it as soon as I feel better.. It seems as soon as I find an ounce of happiness and gain some perspective on what I have achieved, that is when I go running back to the dope man..
One time I was sick for an entire year. Like id get high one day, be sick and awake for two days and two nights, then get high the next. I say high, but really was just not sick for about 12 hours. This went on for two years. I've been good this year, chipping along when I have some extra cash. I've sold everything I ever had. Two ps4s, PS3, iPad, American stratocaster, three tvs, sound systems, computers, you name it. The problem is, the only thing better than being clean and sober, is being high. It gets away from me quick these days. Two days in a row and I will not sleep.
>>676819067
Ive been there. And im there right now, man.
Have you ever tried going to an NA meeting? im nto into the whole 12 steps man, trust me. But just going there and being with people who know EXACTLY how I feel, it helps. You dont have to share or anything. You gotta try somthing man, I know you said youve got a great support network, but they seem to be enabling you more than helping
I went cold turkey off of a 100 fentanyl habit over x-mas 2014. It was way easier than I expected. I wasn't able to work for a maybe 10 days, but I was able to go to a couple of movies in that time. By January I was at the gym every other day.
Granted, I had figured it was 50/50 that I would kill myself when I tore the last patch off and threw it away. And there was certainly mood/thought issues for at least 6 months or more, but it was more doable than I'd have ever guessed.
>>676819067
How much sub are you on bro? Idk if I'd be able to do it in a week. Sunday night before you go back is probably like the first night with sleep no? I can't fucking stand subs, have me restless arms for a month. FUCK. Worst part of wd for me.
I used Percocet some due to a kidney stone. I fucking loved it. I save a few for a rainy day.
I'm too beta to know how to get drugs. Yeah, of course I know some folks who smoke weed, so I could get weed, but other than that, hell no.
Say one day I decide I want some yummy opiates. Tell me how I would get them, /b/.
>>676819876
You don't.
Either make friends with scum or become scum yourself if you really want opiates that bad.
I dont use them now
>>676819063
No tolerance
Been snorting earlier today though
I'm going to use this but I'm a bit scared to go over 20 mg
I was so much more comfortable with blues because you know exactly how much you're taking
>>676819876
just don't. There are types of hell you don't need to ever know about.
>>676820059
Well, I hate scummy people, so I guess I'll never get opiates.
I guess at least I can look forward to the next time I'm in the hospital - hook me up, doc!
tried to. Docs gave me subutex to get off the shit, now I'm addicted to subutex. I'm thinking of using meth to ween myself off.
>>676816058
Alright /b/ros
Anon here that needs serious advice.
I have a younger sister that just recently survived a heroin overdose. I dont know how long she's been using but I'm guessing a couple years. She swears it was her first time using heroin but NO ONE goes from never using straight to using intravenously.
My entire family is sheltered and ignorant to things like this. I got into bad shit when I was a few years younger (violence, robbery, alcohol/marijuana) but nothing that high up the drug ladder.
>Have any of you /b/ros been addicted to opiates?
>Currently addicted?
>What can I say/do to help my sister /b/ros?
Any help/advice is appreciated.
they dont do it for me anymore. =(
i've got like 67 oxys left and just dont give a fuck... i havent been assed to take one in like 3 weeks. is this depression or boredom
I got on methadone a couple of months ago. Stopped daily use right away and finally quit heroin completely two weeks ago. 5 years of addiction, probably a hundred grand down the drain and it's finally almost easy to quit.
I wrestled with getting on methadone for the better part of a year before finally doing it and I'm glad I did. My life is getting better by the day.
>>676817253
No it doesn't fag. You have no idea of what your talking about.
>>676820359
Lots of people start with needles, just depends who introduces you and what they have.
>>676816058
no but going to try to get back into it being only a friday after a long week of work thing
Everyone talk about being sick and how bad it is. It's worse when you get sober after a 8 year habit, and realize that you haven't progressed as a human in ANY way... All your class mate of fb are married and successful and you're sober now, but you're still living in the life your junky alter ego made for you. Maybe I'll just get high tonight to forget my problems. There goes another year!
>>676819469
Yeah I have been to NA and I actually find it extremely helpful and supportive.. I wouldnt say I have a great support network. I'm just lucky enough to have a family who stuck with me through so much bullshit. When people I know have been kicked out on their asses for so much less. I wouldnt say they are currently enabling me.. They definitely did in the past through no fault of their own.. I was never direct enough with them and they never took my addiction serious enough after the very first run through. At the moment they don't know I have a problem.. Relative to what I've been through a steady suboxone habit is childs play.. But it needs to stop.. You are all right.. I've come to realize lately that in order to get results I've never achieved before, I'm going to have to do something I've never done before.. And that is probably going to have to involve being completely honest and direct with some sort of support system...
>>676820468
Except for the CP habit you're obviously developing?
>>676820136
Well heres the rule of thumb dude. Just do little bumps, maybe pencil eraser sized. Wait 5-10 min in between, keep adding it untill you get the effect. Dont worry man. Just dont snort the whole bag at once and youll be ok. I had the same questions when i started. I normally needed roughly half the bag
>>676819067
just try making it only a weekend thing. also, pick an affordable budget for it and stick to it ($50 a week for example)
>>676817917
Your family support will decline as time goes by. Get clean now before the damage gets worst. The fact that you are fucked up at this very moment, means you cannot comprehend how deep you are in it. You think you know but you dont.
All they do is make me puke. I have to avoid them. I have a lot of pain so Dr's just throw them at me but I don't take them. I'm hooked on weed and th a ts all I can deal with. I could not handle being hooked on a real drug.
>>676820440
oh god. you're so depressed you don't even want to do drugs. you need help. and drugs.
>>676819827
Yeah man for real.. My last real detox was off of subs and its like a prolonged and somehow shittier detox.. its like you are stuck at day 3 for 4 or 5 days I remember... I only take 4 mg a day at the moment.. Hoping to go as low as possible before I dive in.. I've done it before. Unfortunately I know what I'm in for
>>676820359
Don't judge, tell her you love her even when she steals you money, love her when she lies, and she will. But it's not really her. Please remember that it's not her. Don't ever enable. No rides. No money. Don't get angry when she lies to good she tricks you into it. Don't be mad when she's high. A family member being upset is just another problem for her, and the only way she can deal with a problem right now, is heroin. It will get worse probably until some real bad shit happens. Get narcan if you can, so you can save her life if need be.
>>676816058
>>676820359
OP here, listen man.
Sit here down, and just be 100 percent real with her. DO NOT BE JUDGEMENTAL. DO NOT SAY YOUR GOING TO TELL YOUR PARENTS. just tell her your there TO LISTEN. If she feels comfortable enough, she will talk. just listen. dont interupted or yell or pass judgement. Any sign of that, she will stop talking and shut down again. Addicts DO NOT LIKE GETTING TOLD WHAT TO DO. what they really need is SOMBODY TO LISTEN. I was an oxy/dope addict for 2 years
quit four years ago, you couldn't pay me to touch heroin again
>>676820842
Uhh definitely not? She's 18.
>>676816058
nah. I use them infrequently and I'm in a shitload of pain. it helps on the worst days.
>>676821021
thanks dawg it's not a stamp btw it's .25 g
>>676821562
Just checkin - the teddy bear and bright colors in your first pic seemed pretty CP'ish.
Fap away!
>>676821176
Duuuuude idk how long you've been on it, but as usual, 4mg is way to much. Don't cold turkey. Take the next three months and get down to less than .1mg ONLY BEFORE BED Please. I know you want to be off soon but you will likely go through some bad shit and relapse or something. Even if you don't it'll be bad. Long acting opioids for addicts are the biggest fuck big pharma ever imagined.
>>676816371
>>676818321
Staci silverstone, decent porn star I'd say. 7/10
>>676820652
"What they have"
Could you explain??
>>676820651
It absolutely is. Good job backing up your statement, btw. the 12 steps is horribly outdated, the AA book is 80 years old, and instead of making a new program with science and medical studies of addiction, you nuts push god and other bullshit, and threaten that if you dont keep coming to meetings, you will be dead. which is bullshit. its a cult.
>>676821562
Moar!
It isn't hard *or at least wasn't for me*. Went cold turkey. Felt like I had flue for few days. Don't let stereotypes and people who don't know jack shit tell you otherwise. I'm sure it varies person to person but there is way too much 'Addiction is an unbeatable disease' shit out there subliminally making people feel there is no point in trying/they aren't strong enough.
>>676821562
Moar!
Plz
If cum did the same thing, I'd be the biggest faggot to ever walk the earth. Ohhh sweet papaver.
OP here.
having a smoke.
Just want to say, in case the thread dies, If you've never fucked around with opiates, dont. If your in active addiction, think about getting help. If somebody close to you is a user, talk to them and listen but DO NOT PASS JUDGEMENT.
>>676821802
I quit cold turkey after taking shit heavily for almost a year. What of it
>>676822596
>>676821087
Its already declined tremendously to the point where if they know I'm using or detoxing they just ignore it and wait for me to come around. I live on my own so that's always been easy enough.. I understand that you may think I'm not able to comprehend how deep down the rabbit hole I've fallen.. However, I'm only taking 4 mg of Suboxone a day at the moment. I've been using Heroin for 6 years.. Straight slamming that shit into my fucking neck and fem.. Opiates are my life.. Opiates are probably 90% of my thought process.. I know exactly where I am.. I know exactly how far I've come.. But like many addicts, I don't see the clear path.. as desperately as I want it.. As attainable as it may be...
Used to do lots of opiates, never progressed to shooting up and was able to keep it under control. Now I can't get them any more except for once in a blue moon.
I still smoke weed and take kratom, but without opiates sometimes I just think life is so boring. Drugs are really all I ever look forward to in life. I'll probably kill myself some day. I'm thinking about ordering from Silk Road or whatever since my life was a lot more exciting when I had my opiate weekends to look forward to. I think some people, like myself, just aren't meant to take life sober.
Poster 0359 here again.
>>676820652
What I've seen from friends in high school most of them started with pills, moved to using heroin (not intravenously), and eventually started sticking needles in their arm. I just assumed my sister started this way too.
>>676821323
I dont judge her. I mean I really do no judge her. And i dont think that she feels judged. I'm the only one that she has opened up to because she knows were both the black sheep of the family. Also, what is "Narcan"?
>>676821524
I dont enable her and I sure as hell dont judge her. I try to listen to her but a lot of times she tries to avoid me. I think it has to do with her being ashamed of it since our entire family is so "clean cut".
Thank you anons for everything youve given me so far
Opiate are only an issue when you don't have enough money. Your problem is money. Make it.
>>676823157
many addicts also have an underlying issue; depression, extreme stress, etc
>>676823324
what horrible advice
>>676823157
Narcan is an opioid with a very high binding affinity that doesn't get you high, so when to spray it in her nose, it will kick off whatever other opioid is stuck to her receptors, and bring her out of an OD.
>>676823462
She's told me that she feels "anxious" or that she's not happy with where she is in life. I try and explain to her that she is really young and doing better than a lot of people her age. I dont know how to help her with the anxiety.
>>676823729
I know the police in my town recently acquired narcan in squad cars. Saved a few lives so far, only been a month
>>676816058
Havent popped since monday. Had a friends bottle of pills in my hand today, resisted asking for some. Wprds were on the tip of my tounge tho. Feels good knowing i can resist it tho.
>>676823729
Thank you.....
I dont live with her anymore (im 24, she's 19 and lives with our mom) but I'll make sure my mom knows about this.
Thank you anon....
If you do enuf heroin you can be a god
>>676823901
You need to be there for her until she forces you to step away.. Don't allow her to highjack your life.. That being said, that will probably take a long time and only if her addiction becomes much worse.. For now I would try to convince her to be extremely direct and honest with your parents or whoever it is in your life that can get her help.. The deeper she delves into this world, the harder it will be for her to reclaim her life...
>>676823850
ask her what particularly makes her anxious, she may have an anxiety disorder. They have a whole spectrum of severity. I started using because of anxiety associated with PTSD from my deployment. Really helped me calm the noise in my head. If she says her anxiety is really bad, and she has panic attacks, she should be seeing a psychiatrist/therapist to be put on meds, only for a few months while she stabilizes. Depression/anxiety are no joke. Alot of people think depression is just "the blues" and it will pass. Well I, and many many others, are not normal. We have it for months, even years. And it never really gets better. I have felt this way since I was about 14. I wish I could just be normal and blissfully happy and ignorant like everyone, but I cant. Drugs are the only thing that makes me feel calm
>>676824302
You need to be there for her until she forces you to step away.. Don't allow her to highjack your life.. That being said, that will probably take a long time and only if her addiction becomes much worse.. For now I would try to convince her to be extremely direct and honest with your parents or whoever it is in your life that can get her help.. The deeper she delves into this world, the harder it will be for her to reclaim her life....
>>676824377
Or maybe you'll just catch the big nod LOL.
>>676816058
Damn...that body is perfect
Can you quit what you don't use?
Rip
>>676825144
only on fridays
Wow now I want to use. Thanks op.
>>676825470
no, you dont. Call a friend. A family member, somebody. Allways reach out before you use
>>676824700
I went through my own bit of depression for about 3 years so i know its more serious than "the blues" as its put. I'm going to keep talking to her when I can.
>>676824723
> The deeper she delves into this world, the harder it will be for her to reclaim her life....
And this, 100% this. I see people I went to high school with begging for money in various places throughout the city I grew up in. They might not know me too well but they recognize me and avoid eye contact. And i know that they're addicted to heroin (maybe more now). I know the sooner she gets away from that crowd the better before its too late and she spends her entire adult life fighting this monster.
>>676825470
Why not call someone???
>>676826079
Yeah I'll call them and ask for money. Good idea bro thanks.
Doubtful. Oxy high time is the only time I feel like myself.
10 years opiate free. Suboxone saved my faggot life
I am so jealous of people who get to wake up everyday without the secret clock ticking down to hell on earth.
>>676816058
I've been off and on about 2 years now. My financial situation has gone to shit because of it. I pay my bills and shit, but can't afford anything extra. Longest I've stayed sober in those 2 years was 13 days straight
>>676816058
I'd have to start first, wouldn't I?
0359 Here
I just wanted to thank all the anons that spent their time here on /b/ to help a fellow /b/ro.
I've learned some new stuff and had some preexisting knowledge reaffirmed. Thank you again anons. If I met you irl id shake your god damned hands. Your help dosent go unappreciated.
>>676827778
No problem man. I truly hope things get better for you guys soon. We live in this Hell we wish to share with no one...
>>676820440
Spoken like a junky who will die terminally unique.
OP here, heading out.
Stay away from these drugs if you've never used them.
If your using them but think you have it under control, or only on the weekends, stop. You dont have control. IT WILL eventually become more and more. IT WILL.
Im glad we helped a few people, and im glad some of you guys actually talked, and some want help. Quitting IS 100 percent possible. The one thing that you need though, is the absolute will to quit. You can go to rehab, go to meetings, but it all means NOTHING unless YOU WANT TO QUIT. Stay safe guys. much love.
>>676816058
absolutely no.
>had accident
>painful as fuck
>doctor gives morphine [meperidina] when I am in pain
>feels fucking awesome
>pain starts going away after 2 or 3 days in the hospital
>start lying about being in pain to get shots
>doctor be like "this stuff is too strong, so, you won't get any more morphine. it makes people addicted really fast"
>me: "really?! pfff. naahh, you think?"
to good and too dangerous anon. don't do it.
