Can somebody please show me proof that this guy is racist?
Deporting illegal immigrants isn't racist, as illegal immigrants are a drain on the economy and on jobs, no racial motivation behind it.
So, i need proof of actual racism, ie calling a black a nigger etc. or i'm voting for this guy
>>676775171
Well just search YouTube for Howard Stern interviews with Donald Trump and watch all of those and that will prove he's sexist.
>>676775171
He's also a liar as you can also find video of him saying his campaign manager NEVER EVEN TOUCHED that reporter and now video proves he actually did touch her and is being charged with battery.
>>676775346
dont care about sexist, feminazis have made me hate women anyway
>>676775171
>drain on the economy and on jobs
>do the work whites are to privlaged to do
>illegals pay taxes
>>676775482
he actually says "there's nothing in it" meaning he barely put any force into it such as the amount she is claiming
>>676775346
>sexist
>racist
Pick one
>>676775171
care to explain how illegals are a drain on the economy? they work shit jobs no one wants (unless you fancy picking oranges for 10 hours a day) where they pay income taxes on their meager wages but they have absolutely no chance of recovering any of that because they cannot file taxes at the end of the year nor can they make claims for medicare/medicaid/social security.
>>676775171
thats the modern form of "racism", not tecnically racism. Its not race related, but nationality and economic conditions related discrimination.
He is racist in this sense, because in his opinion the economy goes bad because of the first victims of this economy, the least of us, the ones running from poverty and wars.
Doing this he tries to convince stupid and afraiden people, like hitler did against jews
>>676775171
Trump isn't racist, he's just got 'racist chic.' Like when hipster fags wear keffiehs, it doesn't mean they're terrorists/Muslims.
>>676777644
Also known as "radical chic," but they usually wearing Che Guevara's image.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radical_chic
>>676776398
>care to explain how illegals are a drain on the economy?
Welfare.
>>676776398
>shit jobs no one wants
people would want those jobs more if they didn't have to deal with the fact that wetbacks are willing to do the same job for less than min wage for cash under the table.
>>676778206
Now you're starting to sound like Bernie Sanders, get outta here.
>>676775638
How the fuck do illegals pay taxes? Like sales tax on the beans they buy?
"When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending the best. They're not sending you, they're sending people that have lots of problems and they're bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists"
>>676778206
^ this guy has a very valid point >>676778493 but I'm still voting for Trump
>>676779381
facts are facts, they arent racist
racist would be to call all mexicans drug dealing criminal rapists as thats a generalisation of a population
>>676776398
I would pick oranges 10 hours a day if they paid well, but because of the illegal workforce they can pay pennies and make huge profit. The illegals are benefitin this huge corporations so much, im surprised the liberals arent gnashing at the bit.
>fuck big corporations they should pay a living wage!
Right on man. Lets get rid of the illegal work force and make those corporations pay living wages to Americans.
>gah youre so racist
Pic slightly related
>>676779910
Facts? They are not facts, He says that they send there worst, but they dont. most of the people that come across the border illegally are the nicest people and hardest workers. That's why you see them working for lower wages than the citizens. Because they know they shouldnt be here, but they want a better life. You cant blame them for wanting a better life just because they were born in a shithole of a country
>>676776853
>stupid and afraiden people
>afraiden
...WTF?
>>676780414
Holy fuck dude the other poster may generalize a bit but your post is a whole other level of bullshit. They are the nicest people? How the fuck you figure that??
>>676775171
I believe he did tell blacks to go back to Africa...
>>676776853
It has a name you sperg
Xenophobic
>>676775171
The 100,000 estimated illegals in Wisconsin alone cost 883m per year in Healthcare and legal work. Too lazy to provide source.
Because they are, they know that they dont belong, and they don't want to be sent back. why would they jeopordize that just to get some struggling tail
>>676780414
>they take low wage jobs
>because they feel bad for being here
Holy. Shit. That is so wrong, it made me shit myself.
>>676780913
So all the border hoping illegals that live in my ghetto apartment complex are the nice spics? Fuck when they steal each other's shit and get in fights in the parking lot I thought it didn't seem very 'nice'.
You are a liberal fucking no nothing. Fuck I can't wait for all this politically correct SJW shit to die
>>676780246
>they can pay pennies and make huge profit.
No. Farmers have very close margins. If they couldn't pay immigrants then they would be forced to buy machines that don't need wages. your dumbass is not going to get 10$/hr for picking oranges it's not worth it.
>>676778513
Yeah.
Also if the company that hires them is trying to be semi-legit they'd use a fake SS and get taxed every paycheck.
>>676781401
typical trump supporter
>>676775554
That's because you're a rapist, as we know all men are.
>>676780480
>yfw americunts discover that english is not the only language on the planet
>>676775171
How about Trump fans being racist
http://i.4cdn.org/gif/1459342003002.webm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAeQNFmuQlc
Link is the video where the Trump supporter calls her a COMMUNIST NIGGER LOVER
>>676775171
Why do you need proof?
Most of America believes he's a racist, isn't that enough?
>>676775482
That didn't make it racist you dolt
>>676775171
CNN, MSNBC and FOX can't, what makes you think 16 year olds on /b/ can?
>>676781479
Ok. Then the manufacturing plant that makes the machine gets the money. If a business cannot pay a living wage it shouldnt exist, farmer or not
>>676779910
>racist would be to call all mexicans drug dealing criminal rapists
That's exactly what Trump did. Exactly that.
>>676781650
Who even thinks up this bullshit? You ever dealt with the IRS? You honestly think these magical SSN are just taking in piles of money? Fuck how do you believe such bullshit?
>>676781663
Just trying to make America great again. Not all of us can't live off Uncle Sam
>>676781746
Trump
>random person in a big crowd
Yeah thats the same
>>676781746
thats his supporters
you can say that bernie supporters are violent hate-mongering hooligans after they shut down that trump rally
Trump cannot control the personality of his supportes, just like bernie cant with his
>>676781401
Liberal? HA! No im voting Cruz. Trust me I am against illegal immigration, but what Trump says is hateful and discriminatory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gI9MCvK2MGs
>>676782143
Exactly
The bernbros anyone?
>>676781746
>How about trump fans
>Prove to me that trump is racist
Nice one, sperglord.
>>676782129
They're not raking in tons of money. You asked a question, I gave an answer.
>>676782208
Who are you voting for in Nov? Cuz I got bad news if you think Cruz will be on the GOP ballot.
I don't see what's wrong with racism...as long as you're not a timecist
>>676782380
>not knowing what a contested convention is
July 18th is going to wow the shit out of you.
Welcome to America, pleb.
>>676781746
She said she deserved it...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NVVwZVd6ZM
wew fucking lad
>>676782369
So just so I am clear: you actually believe that businesses with illegal workers pay into the tax system using some sort of SSN that isn't immediately flagged as suspicious?
Can you provide more info? How do they get these SSNs? The IRS just lets anyone pay into any number they want??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9xTduAik-Y
>>676782560
Fuck dude you are picking the wrong horse I am telling you. I don't think Trump will win the general election but I do think he will be the nominee
>>676782800
Apperantly. Just try working without an SSN
>>676782476
lol its pretty much the same thing man, with the exception of asians all the other races are at least 100 yrs behind us or in the case of niggers more than 5,000
>>676782800
There's actually legislation pending to fix this shit. Actually 18% of W2's don't match SSA records, look it up yourself.
>>676782800
Not him, but not every state uses the e verify system so it does happen
>>676783070
We don't pick any horse. The party does.
>>676778069
Free god damn healthcare
Definition:
Racism is a product of the complex interaction in a given society of a race-based worldview with prejudice, stereotyping, and discrimination.
>>676783070
Dude the gop is going to try everything to make sure trump fucks off
>>676783478
HE EASILY qualifies.
>>676783478
Trump is a product of the complex interaction in a given society of a race-based worldview with prejudice, stereotyping, and discrimination.
ackchually that does seem legit
>>676782800
You seem to think the IRS is this entity that finds every case of fraud and deals with it promptly.
If it's an immaterial amount, they really don't give a shit.
>>676783482
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvyRIgPImOY
>>676783657
IRS doesn't give a fuck, anyone who's paid taxes for over 10 years knows this.
Write whatever the fuck you want, never get audited.
>>676783145
Where did you ever hear this bullshit? My ex roommate worked for the IRS and just would laugh and laugh when idiots bring up this as a 'pro' of our current illegals problem. The IRS keeps track of this shit like a motherfucker. I get a letter from the SSA telling me exactly how much I have paid.
>>676783840
>My ex roommate worked for the IRS
My dad is a doctor . I think you have cancer.
>>676775171
he is not as racist as your average african american, but everybody is at least a little bit racist.
It does not help his image that he does not give a fuck over political correctness. (which is a good thing btw)
>>676778206
>less than minimum wage
>cash under the table
>>676776398
>They pay Income taxes
So, illegal immigrants making less than minumum wage and being paisd under the table are really going to pay income taxes?
>>676783808
You have clearly never made over $77k in a year. Once you start cracking 6 figures they really look at you.
I just wish I had one of these magical SSNs these spics are happily paying into.
>>676783808
Not really.
If it costs the IRS more to deal with a case of fraud then it would bring back in taxes, they'll ignore it.
>>676783840
An illegal has to use SOMETHING as an SSN, no? Employers aren't going to hire someone without one. There are plenty of working illegals...
There was a time when /b/ would have been pulling for Trump to win, purely for lulz
>>676784122
I don't have three houses completely paid off and fall into the 39.3% tax bracket, of course. Everyone on 4chan works at McDonalds amirite?
>>676775171
I'm not voting for him because he's literally dumb. All you have to do is watch him in interviews and debates. He has no clue how the gov actually works and is clulessless when it come to foreign policy, it's embarrassing.
>>676784843
Dumb a racist are two different thi - oh wait what?
>>676783840
Obviously the IRS keeps track of it. They won't do shit unless it's a material amount though.
>>676784650
been to /pol/ lately?
>>676775638
Are you a retarded person?
>>676784827
How dare you suggest everyone on this board works at McDonald's. SOME of us work at Burger King
>>676784827
I'm Dan.
>>676784979
That and they have to identify it as a red flag - which doesn't normally happen when you have an experienced accountant who knows the system.
>>676784988
Closer to old /b/ than current /b/, and that's a damned shame for both.
>>676784979
Define material amount? I have been audited for less than $5k in unreported earnings.
I think how it works is these fucking illegals work for cash and then use the system for welfare since they have no earnings. But in your world they pay taxes to help old people.
Fuck there are so dumb people on this planet.
donald trump is a xenophobe. He says he will stop any more Muslims entering the country (he's generalising that all Muslims are terrorists) and he said he will make a wall to keep Mexicans out and force them to pay for it. He says Mexicans are bringing rapists and drugs like they're the only source of those two problems. He's also supposed to be sexist but I haven't seen him be like that. Just don't vote for him, please.
>>676775171
>wants Muslims to wear special identification denoting religion
>>676785416
>there are so dumb people on this planet
>>676784354
lmao when your own party hates you
RIP GOP, there's no way they survive this election.
>>676785416
>Define material amount?
Material is relative. $100 is material to someone making $10000 a year while it's pennies to someone making $100000
>But in your world they pay taxes to help old people.
I never said that. I just said they do pay taxes. Whether it's enough to make up for the services they use is another issue.
>Fuck there are so dumb people on this planet.
Stop projecting.
>>676781906
>camo hat
fucking hillbilly
>>676785388
it is what it is
>88
checked.
>>676786147
It's okay, she died
>>676784947
So you'd rather vote for a dumbass who may or may not be a racist... Ok got it.
>>676782800
Stolen SSN also are a rather large market in southern states.
Even pretty far up the west coast you can find people selling them.
>>676786422
good
>>676786468
bernie is racist against whites
he is tumblr incarnate
nigger should be happy Lincoln let them stay after they were freed, either that or go back to their ancestral home where the living conditions are sooooo much better than they have it here
He really is a big guy
>>676775171
Thinking your votes matter. Stay delusional America.
>>676787047
for you
>>676781672
What does that have to do with anything?
>>676787204
America is a democratic country. Most votes count>>676787204
>>676776398
How many unemployed impoverished black people currently exist in the US, especially black youths?
How many employed illegal migrants are there?
Fucks sake, why are we incapable of looking after our own citizens first?
>>676776853
>goes bad because of the first victims of this economy
Yeah, no m8. He blames corrupt and incapable bureaucrats for everything, illegal migrants are merely a symptom of this case.
>>676779381
If you look at the whole fucking speech, he's talking about illegal migrants... Who, happen to bring lots of drugs and lots of crime into the country.
>>676784650
this has been my reasoning for wanting him to win. Will vote for him on my primary Apr 5
>>676776398
Are you guys literraly retarded? Illegal immigrants a a leak for the economy because
1. They do NOT pay taxes
2. Most of the money they make is send back to their families in their homecountries. Which basically means that money gets straight out of the country's economy.
>>676781746
Yeah an employee at my company told a guy he was a nigger, my whole company is racist.
>>676775171
ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
>>676782040
Citation where he says "all Mexicans, 100% of Mexicans, are rapists and drug dealers"
>>676782040
No he didn't. Watch the speech he says ILLEGAL immigrants.Do you think that every Mexican person in the US is there illegally? If so, YOU are the racist my friend.
>>676788339
kek
>>676782311
We have a right too, we are fighting corruption and racism. Fuck you facists.
YOU'RE A FUCKING WHITE MALE!
Jesus Ted, you can't do anything right
>>676788887
off by one
>>676781746
"goddamn communist nigger lover, get out of here"
topkek, this hick probably never read a book in his life, doubt he even knows what communism means
>>676782143
>Generalize Muslims
RACIST
>Generalize Trump supporters
THEY'RE RACISTS
>>676788974
le tip.
>>676788712
ever heard of peaceful protests you fucking Neanderthals? or even being the bigger person? or having the better candidate to get more votes so you dont need to worry about trump?
if it was so wrong he wont get votes so no need to worry, if he does win that means hes in a majority and you can go fuck yourself with your minority views
>>676775171
I guess the fact that he wants to ban entry to usa to all muslims just because they are muslims is not a good enough definition of discrimination for you?
He is a bigot and a populist, appealing to the lowest common denominator, praying on people's pet peeves and reeks of hypocrisy.
Not an American or in USA, just European objective.
Calling all muslims unwelcome because terrorists happen to be muslims is pure discrimination on the basis of religion.
He has also called all illegal immigrant mexicans rapists, suggesting that Mexico is 'sending them'. Really? That's how he appeals to his voters? Portraying a country as if it's actively and purposefully sending criminals to USA, having them posed as illegal immigrants?
Sweeping negative over-generalisations on the basis of race or nationality is the most fundamental description of racism. He is also discriminatory on the basis of religion.
He talks to people as if they are toddlers, all this bullshit about 'we are gonna win so much'. Really? Is it RAMBO you want for president or someone that actually uses their brain? Politics is not about muscling your way through things, things are much more nuanced than that. He knows it, although he plays into people stereotypes. I don't believe he is stupid, he is just playing a populist role. But I don't think he is up to the task of being president. You'll get another George Bush, and you know where that got you last time..
>>676789354
>I guess the fact that he wants to ban entry to usa to all muslims
And you're already wrong, temporary moratorium on muslims from specific hotspots of sectarian violence, namely Syria and the surrounding region.
>>676778069
>illegals
>No social security
> no papers
"They're draining mah wellfare"
>>676789634
Shhhhh don't tell the truth, let them keep feeling the burn
>>676789284
He's an antifa retarded who doesn't even know what Fascism is, don't bother.
>>676789354
Louis Farakhan, leader of the Nation of Islam and a black guy, supports Trump's ban on Muslims. I think you're grossly ignorant on the nature of Islam and the current majority sentiment among their population, and the ban itself.
And literally everything you wrote after that is also not racist. You do understand that he supports legal migration, illegal migration is actively damaging your economy
>>676789741
Check this>>676787771
>>676788269
'when mexico sends its people it's not sending its best. They're sending people who have lots of problems. They're bring drugs, crime, they're rapists.
>>676782208
Cruz wants wars in Iran
>>676789284
No we need to stomp the nazis out. Tooth and nail. Socialism needs to be given a fair chance and that can't be done with ss like goons gathering the masses.
>>676775171
big propaganda against trump, or how john calls him, drumpf.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnpO_RTSNmQ
>>676790073
Yeah when he talks about Illegal mexicans. Thats the context idiot.
Did you know that a lot of hispanics that are LEGAL immigrants voted for Trump? Do you know why? Cuz they understand what Trump said and you didn't
>>676787499
It probably isn't the guys first language, so he said afraiden but he still knows 2 languages, so don't imply he's a dumbfuck.
>>676775638
Please explain how an illegal alien goes about paying his taxes.
>>676778206
> get rid of wetbacks that pick up oranges and cotton for $10 a day
> employ niggers and hillbillys for the same job.
> fucking niggers want minimum wage, medical plan, equipment and 8 hours work journals.
> now picking fucking cotton and oranges costs fucking 500% more.
Now basic foods are 500% more expensive.
>>676789354
Please stop sucking muslim cock. The call for a better vetting system and careful lookout at muslims entering the United states is in no way bad. Fuck you aids skrillex.
>>676790073
>Thank you. It’s true, and these are the best and the finest. When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.
Lmao if he's a racist why is he calling legal migrants in the crowd "best and finest:?
>>676790432
>Socialism needs to be given a fair chance
Like Cuba? Like NK? Like the USSR? Or did those times not count?
Let me inquire, how exactly do you think you're going to go about giving the workers the means of production?
>>676790432
Nationalism need to be given a chance, we cant do this with the money hoarding jews in our country, we need to stomp the jews out - Hitler
Now who's the racist
>>676790525
Those "lots" of Hispanics were the miniscule minority that makes up the Latinos that vote Republican. In general, he's loathed by the hispanic community. Nice try, tho. David Duke sure understands what Trump says.
>>676790720
>sales tax
>if they take a SSN from a dead guy, they pay income tax without ever being able to file, or taking SS
It's true, yo.
>>676789634
Don't try talking to him, he is too dense. Your freedoms end where their feelings begin.
>>676781650
You're talking about sales tax and commercial (business) tax. Should illegals be exempt from income tax, while you have to pay?
>>676790801
Because those companies refuse to take less in profit, it isn't about meeting production costs it's about gassing the company jet and bonuses.
>>676789634
>And you're already wrong, temporary moratorium on muslims from specific hotspots of sectarian violence, namely Syria and the surrounding region.
That's not what Trump said though. Why are you repackaging his argument to make it more palatable?
See him reading his own statement here: http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2015/dec/08/donald-trump-calls-for-complete-ban-on-muslims-entering-the-us-video
>>676790070
So, because some guy who proclaims himself as leader of the Nation of Islam supports Trump, just to stir up more hatred by muslims against him in the long run in case you don't understand the politics behind that, makes it ok?
Are you one of the guys that say "I'm not racist, I got a friend who is black'?
The only one who is ignorant is a person that makes sweeping generalisations about people on the basis of their religion.
>>676784988
he said /b/ you fucking retard
>>676789354
Touching on the suggestion that Mexico is sending people here, you do realize that the Mexican government has been known to publish and distribute pamphlets on how to conduct a safe border crossing, right?
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/06/world/americas/a-mexican-manual-for-illegal-migrants-upsets-some-in-us.html
The same government that got it's panties in a twist over Arizona's SB1070, the so-called "Show Me Your Papers" law?
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/94117-mexico-angry-about-new-arizona-immigration-law
Mexico may not be outright sending anyone, but their government is absolutely complicit in the immigration situation we are finding ourselves in.
>>676790836
ARE YOU SERIOUS?
THAT'S NATIONALISM NOT SOCIALISM.
Wanting to build a fucking wall on the Mexican border
>>676790720
no the person you asked but:
Illegal immigrants file taxes just like you do. You don't need to prove you are legal to file them.
>>676790963
>he's loathed by the hispanic community.
Huh, I wonder why. Maybe it's because of retards like you who spread the "Trump is a racist" narrative everywhere
>>676791128
>So, because some guy who proclaims himself as leader of the Nation of Islam supports Trump,
Are you fucking stupid? Do you even know what the NOI is? Malcom X fucking established it numbnuts.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Farrakhan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nation_of_Islam
>that makes sweeping generalisations about people on the basis of their religion.
Have you read the Quran?
>>676790525
When in the speech did he say they were illegal? He said when Mexico sends its people they're sending etc etc
>>676791088
>convince companies to take less profit
> make America great again
pick one
>>676791346
>construction
>racist
Fuck better go burn down the construction next to my house.
>>676778069
Their cheap labor rates destroy the labor field for pretty much anyone who didnt got to college, and even if you try to get one of those jobs, they intimidate you out of it because they want monopoly on the jobs that "americans don't want." So the cheap labor flourishes and creates an income gap. Labour used to be a job for citizens who were non college graduates, or never went to school. These jobs should be going to the millenials who fucked off school. But instead you've got shitskins coming in and doing it for shit so they can funnel that money into mexico where it disappears. Thats one way that they're a drain on the economy. I don't feel i need to mention all the entitlement program fraud that the liberal dhs actually helps them commit. If you don't think illegals are bad for this country or any other you are a legitimate retard.
>>676790814
I totally agree on a better vetting system for anyone entering USA (not my country btw). And I mean everyone/anyone, not just muslims. Focusing on any-one segment of the population will mathematically cause you to get blindsided by someone posing as a non-muslim. But that's besides the point. Trump did not call for what you described. He called for an outright ban on all muslims for an indeterminate amount of time until the countries politicians figure things out.
Don't mold his arguments to fit your narrative so you are ok with yourself. Look at the facts and what he actually said, not what you would like him to have said, or felt that he implied, or whatnot.
>>676782800
are you stupid? SSNs are either stolen/sold, rented by puerto ricans(or legal hispanics) to illegals, or just given. This has been in practice since the 50s.
>>676790525
So? Still not proving your point. Those latinos could have voted Cruz or Rubio, but instead of voting a latino candidate they voted Trump.
Let me tell you something son. Legal migrants hate illegals migrants too. Why? Well basically because crime rate is higher than the average with ilegal migrants. So legals hate them too because they don't want to get associate with them and they more identified with american values
>>676791016
Based on their "income", they would be getting tax returns.
This >>676791751
Was for you>>676790963
>>676791905
right
>>676775171
“Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day.”
>>676791296
Incorrect in your conclusion.
Given the scale of mass illegal immigration, Mexico has a duty to alert and inform people on how to do it safely. At least that minimises accidents and tragedies from people who are trying to pass.
Think of it the other way, just because some a government organisation offers information in multiple languages, does that mean they are inciting illegal immigration? No, it's the same concept, they are just trying to avoid people getting hurt or going into unecessary expenses etc.
Should we consider California to be inciting illegal mexicans to cross the border because Spanish is virtually a second language everywhere there? Of course not, they just adapt to reality. If you can't fight/stop something at least make it as safe as possible. That's why you got sex education at young ages, not because you condone child sex but because you want to protect them from hurting themselves.
>>676791016
They are exempt because they get paid under the table. Trust me. Im an european fag whose grandfathers work have a very big farm and we have also gardeners. 80% of the farm workers are afeicans and the gardener is too. Everything paid under the table
> no taxes
>>676778069
thats niggers and trailer trash(here in the north east its puerto ricans and arabs)
>>676792156
>I shat and a bird took it to the pawn shop on 42nd. I got 24 dollars" -George Bush
>>676790432
Nazis? You mean the National Socialists German Worker's party? You mean those socialists?
>>676792156
>A well-educated black has a tremendous advantage over a well-educated white in terms of the job market. I think sometimes a black may think they don't have an advantage or this and that... I've said on one occasion, even about myself, if I were starting off today, I would love to be a well-educated black, because I believe they do have an actual advantage.
I'd like to see a sauce for your quote nigga
>>676791380
>Have you read the Quran?
So you believe every letter of the books of your religion?
The bible is full of crime and hatred, doesn't mean that Christians are racists and criminals, does it? Please tell me you are not so silly..
Just because Quran says a lot of bullshit does not mean that all muslims believe every word of it. There are many of them that actually use their brain you know, that are just normal regular people going about their business.
Looks like you /want/ to hate someone and you are just making up reasons to convince yourself of the superiority of your bigotry. a.k.a They are racists so that justifies me being racist against them..
Also, the NOI..so what if MX established it? What is it today, what does it espouse and what are the politics behind it. Don't go by the history of something, look at it's current value and political motivation/currency.
>>676780414
You must be a woman.
All illigals, no matter what , should be sent home.
Every.single.one.
If you aren't a fucking citizen, leave.
All you motherfuckers defending illigals or either illigal yourself, have illigal family, or suck wetback cock on the daily
Make America great again, kill yourself
>>676792841
>So you believe every letter of the books of your religion?
wew fucking lad
>>676780631
Ok, and?
If blacks want 'culture' so fucking bad they SHOULD go back to africa. Every nigger in america is all about black pride and history but would never step foot on thier homeland. Niggers are a plauge.
>>676792501
Not anon but the Nazis were not total sociaists, I don't support socialism at all but they were more of a hybrid. Pick up a book.
>>676792841
Unfortunately for you the Bible and Quran are actually quite different. While the Bible has the New Testament that throws out a lot of the Old Testament the Quran does not. The Quran is very similar to the Old Testament and believes in spreading it's word by the sword. It encourages war and destroying the unbeliever. When you look at the New Testament you find that Jesus' method is quite different.
fucking
>>676793083
Bring slavery back, migrating from immigrant labor to child labor isn't the recipe for success, sir.
lad
>>676792305
>given the scale of mass illegal immigration, Mexico has a duty to inform
If I go to London and wanna toke up, can I find a list of dealers at my local consulate? I mean, given the scale, you'd think so, right?
What if I went to South Africa and wanted to nut up in an uninterested woman? Will I get a recipe for chloroform, or will they just be cheap and dole out a ski mask and a pack of rubbers? I mean, given the sheer scale, right?
The Mexican Government is actively furnishing would-be criminals with the information necessary to commit their crimes. If the Mexican government were a person, it would be tried as an accessory to a felony in most states.
>>676793339
>Socialists aren't socialist
>somehow the NSDAP aren't socialist because I don't believe them to be
How about you get a better argument? Many of the policies implemented by the NSDAP were quite socialist and focused on helping the poorest of German citizens.
>>676780414
>nicest people
>hardest workers
Listen sweety, I did iron work for six years with plenty of illigals around me. They're rude, loud, hit on anything with an ass and speak thier mumbo jumbo language in an a tempt to hide thier vulgar shit talking.
They aren't nice, and they don't work hard.
Tell you mom and dad to fuck off right back to mehico
>>676775171
"Deport all blacks back to Africa"
"Ban all Muslims"
"Deport all Mexicans"
Racist? Of course not....
>>676792672
not the person you were talking to but, on the source thing:
his interview to rolling stone where he admits that he probably said that very quote:
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/8-of-the-sleaziest-things-donald-trump-has-said-20150616?page=2
No.5
That quote came from an associate of his and was part of Trump's book. In the interview -when questioned about it- he accepts that most of the things on his book were 'probably true'.
Get over it, he is racist...he tried to hide it but he can't do it that well..
I don't like him nor the Democratic candidates, but he is racist insofar this argument is concerned.
>some Christians don't like gays
>say mean things and refuse to bake cakes
>some Muslims don't like gays
>execute them in accordance with Allah's will to a crowd of approving onlookers
Totally the same though
>>676792841
Time to talk about something I happen to know about.
>So you believe every letter of the books of your religion?
Oh jeeze well sorry m8 but the Quran kind of says that if you're a "hypocrite Muslim", a Muslim who stays at home and does not practice his texts to perfection, he's committing sin and openly scorned.
>The bible is full of crime and hatred
Well, we have a problem with that conclusion. For one, OT isn't OP in the minds of Christians. For one, Christ literally worked on the Sabbath, betraying one of the commandments, and generally Christ is seen to trump any previous kinds of teachings. He was a revisionist, that's why they had him killed.
>Just because Quran says a lot of bullshit does not mean that all muslims believe every word of it.
Muslims actually do believe every word of it, just like Christians believe every word of the NT or Jews believe every word of the Torah and Talmud. You make a grave error in judgement when you think that religion is just a "fashion", and people pick and choose as they wish and cherry pick what they want. Problem is that religion, especially the Abrahamic religions, especially Islam, are VERY Totalitarian in their teachings.
The Quran says over 90 TIMES to live your life as Muhammad did. If you want me to extrapolate on the life oh Muhammad, I'd do so. Nigga.
>Looks like you /want/ to hate someone and you are just making up reasons to convince yourself of the superiority of your bigotry. a.k.a They are racists so that justifies me being racist against them..
blah blah, shit shit, I don't give a shit whether you call me a racist or not. I know I'm not.
>Don't go by the history of something, look at it's current value and political motivation/currency.
Cop out huh? Can't deal with a Muslim going against the grain of thinking? Last time I checked, Farakhan is one of the most well respected men in the Islamic American world.
I recommend actually learning about something before you bother having an opinion.
>>676780414
Mexifag here.
People who flee to your country are actually the worst. Most of them are running from poverty, yes, but they help creating that poverty by no studying and not wanting to actually bust their asses to improve their live conditions. They see your country as the easy way out and they take it.
Why do you think they don't ever bother learning your language? When English is taught here since elementary school. They don't even know or care about how to speak proper Spanish.
Also, a great deal of them are running from drug cartels, and is not because are arbitrary killing people, cartels don't make mistakes.
gg
>>676793326
And women shouldn't be allowed to vote. Female voters are the reason for everything that is wrong with the current system.
>>676793788
>"Deport all blacks back to Africa"
Who told you this lie, anon? Who lied to you?
>>676793788
Gonna need a source there friend
>>676793724
I didn't say they weren't socialist, I said they were not full socialists. They implemented a system that was more of a hybrid. There were private companies and yes there were socialist programs to help the poor in the reich. However that doesn't mean every socialist like system us nazi.
>>676775171
Does it really matter that Muslims aren't a race, or that Mexicans aren't a race? He's targeting whole mostly innocent demographics based on unfair stereotypes. You're splitting hairs saying that's not technically racist. Also if you can listen to what he says about those people and not think he says nigger all the time when he's in private, then the Hillary campaign would probably like a word with you as well to see how much bullshit they can sell you.
>>676793788
Source nigger
>>676793479
Who the fuck said anything about slavery.
You fucking sjw bitch get the fuck OUT. Go back with the mexis and niggers, just fucking LEAVE
>>676791001
>endorsing identity theft
Trump is definitely racist.
>>676793439
I don't mind cause I am neither a christian nor a muslim. The case is that most religious books have messages of hate, because that's how things were back when they were written.
Most followers of each religion manage to navigate past the wrong/hateful messages and keep the good parts.
Otherwise, if what you are suggesting was the case and every muslim actually believed all the hateful crap in Quran then you'd have millions blowing up themselves worldwide..but you don't..you just have the occasional fanatic and I think it's pretty well established that this fanatics originate from specific sects that are located within ISIS or similar enclaves of fundamentalists...it's not like we are concerned about your 7/11 guy because he happens to be muslim..are we? seriously, just think about it for a minute.
>>676794109
>He's targeting whole mostly innocent demographics
Illegal immigrants aren't innocent, they broke the law the moment they got here
Not a racist. Just a compulsive lying shit stain that appeals to the bottom rungs of American society because they actually think and want him to be racist.
>>676781746
The supporter, not the man himself! Fucking hell people
>>676794401
>Most followers of each religion manage to navigate past the wrong/hateful messages and keep the good parts
OH DO THEY?
>>676793240
>>676793353
>>676793452
>>676793532
>>676793895
When's the last time a christian crusader blew themselves up on a bus to be a martyr?
>>676794048
I don't give a shit about a woman, but if they were born here and are true blooded americans, then yeah she should vote.
But Shaniqua and Maria can fucking go.
>>676794475
That's about as bad a jaywalking tbh
>>676794367
Oh well good proof there anon, ow I see everything thanks.
>>676794109
You're splitting hairs, illegal immigrants means they broke the law. Stop trying to coat it a different way, same thing with trying to say trump this super big racist when he has targeted illegals and muslims who look a the fucking news, it isn't hard to see why we should be cautious.
>>676793587
>http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/06/world/americas/a-mexican-manual-for-illegal-migrants-upsets-some-in-us.html
You are seriously confused and you are conflating different things.
Have you read the sources you provided? let me show you what you actually linked to:
The guidebook also advises would-be migrants to avoid hiring professional immigrant-smugglers and to refuse to carry packages for others. It also instructs people never to lie to border officials, carry false documents or resist arrest.
The pamphlets are purely instructions to prevent loss of life, not to tell them where the best place to jump the fence is..seriously, have a read at them youself. It's purely information to protect them from becoming drug mules or fall prey to illegal smugglers. It's got nothing to do with 'assisting them to commmit criminal acts'.
Just read them for yourself and judge whether the content is helping them commit crimes or not.
>>676775171
>I'm voting for this guy
you do you man, but his economic strategy is shit, his foreign policy is outdated and he is about as subtle and diplomatic as an 18-wheeler.
>>676781650
You're so stupid if you guess you can get back taxes whit a fake SS, go to the school or at least read a book , you're a full retarded
>>676780246
would you like oranges to cost $10 each?
>>676794099
Socialism doesn't call for abolishing private companies but Communism does. Are you seriously saying that a socialist party that enacts socialist policies isn't a socialist party?
>>676775171
If trump loses Wisconsin he won't get to 1237...brokered convention it is
>>676775171
"hes white. isnt that enough?"
-every bernie cuck
>>676794088
I know, shitty source but it was on Facebook.
I never checked it out, because I was appalled by it.
Maybe that specific one is not true, but I still think he's racist due to lots of other things that I have seen on TV, and social media.
>>676794839
Jaywalking into another country
>>676794935
If it meant they were picked by clean, white hands then yes.
>>676781401
Ever considered, maybe, not being poor?
>>676775171
Deporting illegal immigrants can tear apart families, drives aggregate supply down (INCREASING PRICES), drive tax revenue down, and open up jobs that Americans have been shown not to do (like farming) during the recession.
Trump won't accomplish anything anyways do you really think that the Senate is going to allow half crazy s*** he proposes the best things that he can do for this country is vet Muslims and fix our taxes anybody making under 30k a year isn't going to be taxed the highest percent tax is 25% and business taxes only going to be 15%
>>676794908
Crossing that border without authorization or citizenship IS a criminal act. They're called ILLEGAL immigrants for a reason.
>>676795055
>implying Bernie isn't as white as Mary Poppins
>>676795087
>that I have seen on TV, and social media.
I see the problem becoming clear.
Why do you ask Anon ? Need to feel better ? To be told you're not racist ?
Trump is racist, pretty dumb when it comes to politics, lacks politeness, tact, and humanity, and it's no wonder rednecks and retarded electors are voting for him.
What I find hilarious is how you keep making fun of niggers here when clearly Trump is the nigger of the white race.
>>676781401
Illegal immigrants actually commit less crime than the general population.
>all these people talking about the economic benefits of deporting illegal immigrants
>we need to take a strong republican stance!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C52TlPCVDio&ab_channel=TheAsianRepublican
fucking retards, here's your neo-classical god. Look at what he says. Milton Friedman won the Nobel economics prize. Where's Donalds?
>>676775171
I don't think he's actually racist. I think he's an opportunistic buffoon who finds it easy to manipulate proto-fascist racists.
>>676793906
You really take whatever a holy book says as fact, while you insist on cherry picking what the bible/new-testament says because it suits you.
I cannot change your mind. All I'd suggest is that you speak to some muslims and find out what they actually think about the Quran and how they interpret it. Don't be afraid of them..talk to them and find out for yourself, you know, it's best to educate yourself by yourself if you can instead of just swallowing whatever crap you read on the internet that fit or support your narrative.
It's really sad that you take Quran at face value but you start going on about revisionism when it comes to the Bible..can't you see the hypocrisy?
>>676795096
Wow OK
>I have REAL exsperience with mexicans
>lol you must be poor
You'd rather pick on him for being poor??
Ok, just ignore all the true shit that guys said, like how violent and dirty mexis are.
>>676795203
>They're called ILLEGAL immigrants for a reason
This is why we've been hearing this push to say "undocumented americans", fucking newspeak garbage.
>>676794969
I was saying they aren't full on socialists but what I really mean is that it isn't what Bernie Sanders advocates.
>>676794401
No, you just have many, many examples of muslims in the middle east killing other muslims for not being hardcore enough. You also have crowds of people gathering in stadiums to watch public stonings for adultry. You have organizations like ISIS sending suicide bombers to Europe to kill hundreds. You have people throwing gays off of buildings and cliffs with crowds stoning the body.
In Christianity you have a fucking hippy woodworker telling people to take care of and feed the poor, pay your taxes and serve the army, look after the sick and be a good person. It throws much of the Old Testament out which is what MANY people seem to forget nowadays.
>>676794314
>
Ever heard of outsourcing?
One has to be somewhere, in order to leave.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxgtrG7-S9M
>>676791366
>what is tax evasion
if they are illegal then what need do they have paying taxes
>Trump is racist, pretty dumb when it comes to politics, lacks politeness, tact, and humanity, and it's no wonder rednecks and retarded electors are voting for him.
That's right Winrar
>>676795203
FUCKING THIS! It's like people don't understand the fucking word "illegal".
>>676775171
Fuck you. I don't care.
>>676795531
So shut the fuck up because Nazis are Socialists whether you want to believe so or not. Socialism isn't some magical, peaceful and perfect system.
>>676794935
do you know what inflation is?
If yes you know it would not matter.
Why? Because illegals don't really impact product prices much. They mostly impact business profits, taxes (have to get higher if a certain group does not pay them) and poor people who will have stronger competition in finding low-paid work.
>>676775736
Nice spin. Disgusting. Does wittle Trump need you to explain his shitty use of language
>>676795203
THANK YOU
Illigal means against the law, breaking the law means jail. Jails already full with niggers and beaners, so send em HOME
I'm Mexican, ask me anything.
>>676775171
He's not rasict people are just a bunch of retarded sheep and believe all thats force fed to them by media.
>>676795308
but 100% of illegal immigrants have already committed a crime.
>>676791402
he was talking about the illegals, look it up it was taken out of context
>>676795755
>shut the fuck up
Oooooh someone is mad. Sorry I actually read books instead of wiping my ass with them.
>>676775171
>Can somebody please show me proof that this guy is racist?
he a wacis because he doesn't want to give free moneys to brown people
>>676795417
>bible says don't mix fibers in clothing
>modern christians like "nah, m8"
>koran says kill infidels and wage jihad wherever they are
>muslims make up majority of terrorist attacks around the world
It's almost as if one group is worse than the other, or something.
>>676795604
I'm not watching your dumb asspattting mexican shill bullshit.
Go home, you filthy bean counter.
>>676778206
American-bred workers can barely do field work
>>676775171
check out when he first announced he was running, then go be stupid somewheres else
b8ing this hard should be bannable
>>676795832
What about rednecks crack-heads, where do you gonna send your cousins?
>>676795546
You compare the middle east to the west like they're two houses on the same block. You forget the effects of poverty on people. You forget the fact that secular democratic governments have only existed in most countries for roughly 150 years. People did the same back then, and nignog african christians do the same today.
So, you chose the wrong time frame and both the breadth and depth of your analysis are kiddy-pool levels of shallow at best. Try again.
>>676794917
>get taxed every paycheck
>nowhere does it say get backtaxes
lrn2readingcomprehension
>>676796266
I see you can't argue anymore. Good day sir.
Trump is literally the nigger of the white race. And niggers are racists.
>>676796008
No, you lost the argument. You decided to say that Nazis should be ignored so we can have a socialist system but conveniently forgot that NSDAP is a socialist party. Good job, you fucking idiot. Why not follow your own suggestion and read a book about it?
>>676783307
I thought it would end in sexchatting and them fapping eachother off in front of a cam.
>>676793326
>this
>>676795417
>You really take whatever a holy book says as fact, while you insist on cherry picking what the bible/new-testament says because it suits you.
You have not read either the OT or NT. The NT is inherently Revisionism, which is why he was fucking killed, because he did things like work on the Sabbath. There's a reason a majority of Christians disregard most of the OT, because they're commanded to.
The Quran is too revisionism, if you look at Surah 5;32 and 33, it revises the Talmud and Torah for Islamic society.
> ll I'd suggest is that you speak to some muslims and find out what they actually think about the Quran and how they interpret it.
You're naivety to something you have neither studied nor read is obvious. Of course most Muslims do not interpret their faith fundamentally, they are told what to believe by their Imam, but what do you think happens when you have a Fundamentalist Imam? There's a reason PewResearch shows the findings it shows.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7TAAw3oQvg
>It's really sad that you take Quran at face value but you start going on about revisionism when it comes to the Bible..can't you see the hypocrisy?
I have read both and learnt about the context for both. Stop taking faith at face value, learn about them both.
>>676796274
Dude fuck you, I'm not letting hordes of "refugees" into my country. They can go practice their shit tier ideology elsewhere. I'm glad the only weirdos I have near me are Mormons.
>>676796274
>You forget the effects of poverty on people.
So we've gotten to the "dindu nuffin" stage of your ill-informed and poorly thought out argument.
>>676794736
>Doesn't know what Ireland is
>>676795546
Noone denies that there is a problem with a small % of muslim areas.
What you fail to understand is that muslims are massive as population, and the issues that you refer to are miniscule by comparison. Yes, there are issues with the radical interpretations of their faith and need to be addressed as soon as possible.
but that does not mean that all muslims are terrorists or anything like the examples you mention. That's where any association stops. That's what most people fail to understand and just tar everyone with the same brush.
It's not about ignoring reality, yes there are issues with some muslim radical minorities. That doesnt make all the rest of the muslims, who are the overwhelming majority anything like those bad apples.
Same goes for blacks, jews etc..
>>676796274
I'm poor and I haven't stoned a single person to death. I lived in poverty for years and I haven't thrown a gay man off of a building. I was literally starving and living on the street and I haven't blown myself up.
Islam is a violent religion and focuses on spreading by conquest.
>>676796397
Are you really out of books already? Seriously open one up instead of using it as toilet paper.
>the nazis were socialist therefore all socialism is nazis.
>every socialist country on earth is nazis
>every country with capitalism is the US.
>>676795769
>illegals don't really impact product price much, they mostly impact business profits, taxes
>implying the two aren't related in ANY for-profit enterprise
>not realizing that price in perfect competition situations is equivalent to the Marginal cost according to neo-classical discourse
>has never taken an economics class
>is pulling more shit out of his ass than a magician out of a hat
THESE WOUNDS
WONT SEEM TO HEAL
>ITT: Angry insecure white people
>ITT: Angry insecure Mexicans
>>676795636
because many, despite being illegal, actually work in proper normal jobs, with pay stubbs etc etc..also many think that by paying taxes and being regular citizens they can help their cases when they try to adjust their status.
>>676795087
you are a sheep, i dont like trump, but if you're gonna be anti trump base it on something that he realy said or did, he never said that any race is better than another.
>>676793788
"Deport all blacks back to Africa" Source
"Ban all Muslims" He wants to put a temp ban on muslim immigration to stop terrorists to sneak in.
"Deport all Mexicans" ILLEGAL MEXICANS
You're retarded.
>>676796963
What if I'm both?
>>676796266
Hmm, that's a good question. What is the ancestral homeland to which we can deport the redneck crackhead? Middlesbrough?
CNN TOLD ME HES RACIST SO THEREFORE HE IS, AND HIS WORKERS BEAT AND RAPE WOMEN
>>676789270
My sides
>>676795087
>facebook is my source
Omg you are literally the retards who are destroying whole countries.
>my tumbler told me, Muh fagbook, tinder told me
What the fuck is wrong with you? God damn you're retarded.
Well, he said he wanted to deport all illegals, then he placed all illegals as being Mexican, when in reality, many illegal immigrants are not Mexican, so that's a bit racist.
>>676789270
I like how he couldn't even hold it together
>>676796740
No, you just have the Muslim community in Molenbeek sheltering bombers and keeping them away from the authorities. You have groups of Muslim men in Britain raping and grooming 1400 British girls for prostitution because unbelievers are worse than garbage. What you have is groups of muslim men storming gay bars to beat the shit out of the patrons.
And then you have the moderate muslims that watch and allow this to happen in their communities. They make no effort to integrate into the countries they move to and then all of a sudden you have sections of British cities ruled by Sharia law.
>>676796012
well the thing is, he isnt
he's outrages true, but not a racist. And by calling him a racist without him being it, people actualy turn him in the underdog, and that will win him the nomination. And if he's up to hillary, he will fucking win
>>676796064
it's almost as if all people that belong to the same religion are the same kind of people right??? because bad people can only come from bad religions right???
It couldn't possibly be that radicalised members of any religion can be violent (e.g. cult members, fundamental islamists, fucking japanese weird cult mustard gas in metro type of weirdoes?)
oh no, it's only because they are muslims and all muslims are alike.
do you seriously think like that? can't you tell the difference? do you judge people by their religion and think it guides their life to the letter..grow up and see the world, speak to people and see for yourself what they think. You will discover that any muslim you speak to is - shock/horror- not a person that wants to stone you because you aren't muslim too!
>>676796536
your only response to that was "I don't like them", and you claim to have any consistency to your argument?
>>676796664
>dindu nuffin
when did I say that
You've barely read my argument and felt the urge to simply post spicy memes. Read the last sentence again and come up with a counter argument.
>>676796824
>born into and lived in a secular society that's been secular through and through
>not religiously based
oh wow congratulations captain average
>Islam is a violent religion and focuses on spreading by conquest
Do you really think that it's Islam, and not political gains? Really? Give me one major power at the time that was not focused on building an empire, or trying to at least. Go ahead.
>>676796740
All Muslims are terriost just like in the days of the Crusades they cannot be trusted. Don't believe me look at some of the real news like how women are getting raped in Germany or how it's not safe to walk the streets of Sweden.
that's what Hillary and Bernie want for us.
>>676796835
No, what you said was we should stomp out the Nazis and give socialism a fair chance.
What I said was that NSDAP was socialist and you're an idiot. You are literally putting down a socialist party and promoting socialism in the same statement.
>>676796104
I'm sorry, do you speak english? Or should translate to redneck?
charges from the left & their RINO satraps of racism are like dogshit in paris parks,everywhere
>>676775171
No one likes mudslimes but special badges? And "restricted areas for them to live"
Sounds pretty racist to me
>>676797880
Is that his official policy?
>>676793926
this
>>676797179
Not even close, keep trying
>>676793452
>violent events since 2010
>arab spring, literally revolution season 2.0 electric boogaloo starts in 2011
>doesn't expect a correlation
JUST
>>676797605
I wasn't even talking to you before dipshit.
>>676798007
He says it almost every rally after the wall bullshit
>>676796533
Your problem is exactly that. You read both but you interpret Quran factually while the Bible you cut and paste to your size.
Yes, Muslims follow their Imams interpretation.
Yes, fundamentalist imams can and do turn muslims to radical fuckheads that blow themselves up.
So fucking what? is it islam that's causing it or fundamentalist preachers??
do you honestly think that a fundamentalist christian wouldn't be able to distort the NT in such a way to make christians blow themselves up? Don't you have cases of fucked up christians killing scores of people?
It's WHO teaches you something, and the way they choose to distort it, not the source itself that's the problem.
Not that I like either religion or its holy books. But I can distinguish between fucked up people doing things because they have been brainwashed and between a religion in itself..
Eitherway Im not gonna convince you and im tired of this thread..so have a good night.
