Why aren't you voting for Bernie Sanders? He just won 6 out of the 7 recent democratic nominations. He's the best shot we have at fixing America with getting a good supreme court judge, among other things.
>inb4 faggot, vote trump
vote Trump, faggot
self-bump 1/3
>>676404383
Failed so much...
Self Bump 2/3
>>676404383
US Constitution Amendment 1
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
>>676404077
I have a basic understanding of such economic concepts as supply and demand and comparative advantage.
>>676405295
Whats your point?
>>676405381
Yet many countries that are more prosperous as the US have a more socialist government. Jada jada, we provided a military for them, but maybe we can take just 5 billion from the militarys half a trillion discretionary spending?
Because he's not going to get the nomination.
He's racist against white people.
Your shill threads are pointless.
>>676405806
your silliness is incredibly silly.
>>676405615
>le ban all muslims
>>676405806
There are practically no major countries with a higher per capita GDP than the USA, and they're basically all oil emirates. I don't know what you're blathering about or why.
>>676405958
is that like straight from Fox "news"?
>>676406157
Please explain how?
He has more substance than Hilary Clinton, is anti-Israel in the Palestine/Israel conflict, and has (imo) the best plan of all the presidental candidates.
>>676406473
I count the EU as a country of countries. Additionally, their healthcare system is much better than the US, yet they spend less.
>>676406377
He didn't propose banning Islam in this country. The US government can constitutionally keep out anyone it wants for any reason.
>>676406532
Mods, please ban. This isn't a loli thread, but still.
>>676404568
He's not outlawing Islam he's temporarily halting the immigration of Muslims.
>>676406532
>>676406638
The EU gdp per capita is less than the US. Their healthcare is of lower quality than the United States.
>>676405295
Implying congress gives a shit about Constitution, cops for example sure care about your freedoms :D
>>676406680
can't "register" muslims
can't ban anyone on the basis of religion
>>676406638
>Please explain how?
well for one thing you think this
>anti-Israel in the Palestine/Israel conflict
is a good thing. Unless you're either a nazi /pol/tard or you have several cousins named Mohammed there is no logical reason to think this is a good thing.
>>676406377
>le ban all muslims... from entering the country
be muslims all you want, but Amendment One doesn't say anything about allowing barbarians to cross the border.
>>676407023
>can't ban anyone on the basis of religion
sure you can. For decades we kept out the Chinese on the basis of nothing more than their race.
>>676406638
>I count the EU as a country of countries
It absolutely isn't but please, continue
>>676404568
Unless it's a terror threat. George bush redefined terrorism which made it legal for Trump to ban them. Muslims are known not to assimilate well. Look at all of the European countries.
I'm voting for him.
I really hope he'll win, it'll be best for America. Clinton will just do what banks and lobbyists tell her and trump will fuck the country up like he did to every company he owned. Plus all the shit he'll do spontaneously
>>676406835
Yea, in Turkey.
The EU GDP is only (about) a trillion less than the US. That's still quite big. How can you say that their healthcare is of lower quality? They pay less, have better coverage, and the citizens of EU countries actually LIKE their healthcare system.
>>676407047
Let me rephrase. Bernie himself said that Israel's right to declare themselves as a state is non-negotiable. That I'm totally for. However, Israel needs to tone it down with how they're treating the Palestinians.
>>676407400
If I could upvote, I absolutely would.
>>676407310
In technicality, they are. Each EU country needs to pay in to be part of the EU, and all EU countries have a say in EU-wide laws. I think that's the definition of a federal government. Just a bit modified.
Bernie is a communist Jew.
One thing I'm still trying to figure out is how forcing big businesses to pay taxes will create jobs. That's one of his main points, yet no one can give me an answer on how that works. If you force more taxes onto big business, won't they move out of country because fuck you and your taxes?
I will never vote for a Democrat again. Obama was the worst thing that has ever happened to this country and he was just a lite version of Bernie.
>>676407194
chinese isn't a religion but even then because it happened in the past it can't happen again since the last time is considered a travesty of human rights after the jap camps
>>676404077
go back to red dit, douche
>>676404077
Because he's supported by violent Nazis.
>>676407954
Also, if they start paying more on taxes, doesn't the possibility exist of them actually getting rid of jobs? If they have to pay more, in order to save money, I'd imagine they would start saying "Hm...do we REALLY need this guy?"
>>676406638
I have lived in the Nordic countries (Sweden and Denmark) and I can tell you first hand. Their healthcare sucks. I got sick with a minor cough so I went to the hospital and they literally told me to come back when I was sicker. They literally didn't give me medicine until I had walking pneumonia and bronchitis. It was free but I'd rather have payed for it out of pocket then go through weeks of hell. Besides the taxes and minimum wage are so high there that everything costs like 3-4 times as much as they do in the states. An iPhone 4 there cost me 1,100 USD and it didn't even come with a charger. To buy groceries it would cost you like 11 dollars for some milk and 6 dollars for some eggs. They have free college there because only 20% of their population goes whereas 46% of ours does.
>voting a Jew into office
Good one anon
>>676407826
>How can you say that their healthcare is of lower quality?
mainly because it is
http://www.econtalk.org/archives/2012/07/scott_atlas_on.html
>>676408328
>MFW Trump protestor gets his face punched by old white dude who's a Trump supporter
>keksimusmaximus.jpg
>>676407826
>However, Israel needs to tone it down with how they're treating the Palestinians.
this is wrong.
Israel's been fighting the war with one hand tied behind it's back since 1983, largely due to American interference and this prolongs the conflict.
>>676408496
>police say Trump protesters are violent Nazis
>Put that in your pipe and kek it.
>>676407781
This poster really needs to reevaluate the needs of herself and her family. Their family first, extra's second, Bernie Sanders third. It's her fault that he/she spent most of their money on Bernie Sanders.
>>676408131
Maybe the reason Obama sucked is that he WAS a lite version of Sanders.
>>676407873
Socialist. There's a HUGE difference.
>>676408328
You're talking about the Regressive Left, a political movement within the Left driven by "Reverse"-Racists and Feminists. Additionally, any anti-Trump protesters at rallies repetetly get harassed and physically assaulted.
>>676408421
A minor cough doesn't need to go to the hospital. You buy over the counter medication like Advil or some cough medication.
Don't clog the medical system. It'll make it worse for actual people who need to get to the hospital. This is also why people NEED to get flu vaccinations YEARLY.
>>676408481
That website is a right-wing think tank. GTFO. Use pew polls and statistics or don't even bring them up at all.
>>676408726
Sadly, we can't alter the past. Technically it was our fault that the Israel/Palestine conflict is like this.
>>676408481
It would be even better if trumps plan were in action. He's been proposing a lift on the state insurance boundaries.
>>676404077
>>676409406
Didn't even read anything...
Wow.
>>676409261
>right-wing
>I don't listen to sources that disagree with me
>use statistics
>the statistics in that link don't count because they're right-wing
>>676409261
You can't improve upon shit by shoveling more shit on top. Obama's policies have been a nightmare and I will not allow Bernie or Hillary for that matter to continue in his vein. No matter what.
>>676409261
>Sadly, we can't alter the past. Technically it was our fault that the Israel/Palestine conflict is like this.
you're missing the point extraordinarily.
>>676409261
Still waiting for an answer on this. >>676407954
>>676404077
cause hes cuck
cucklife not the life for me
>>676409261
In Sweden if you have a cough you have to go to the hospital because they have restricted anything containing codeine. I've been there. Besides Advil and other drugs don't work for a viral infection and I'd end up going to the hospital regardless.
>>676404077
because he doesn't have a chance of winning against Hillary you bernfag. Do some simple math and hide your damn IP next time.
>>676408807
fake article, doesn't exist
wew lad
>>676404077
I'm feeling it
Because I'm not voting for some cuck who puts black people on a pedestal
>>676409949
You rightwing nutjobs really love the word cuck huh?
>meanwhile, on reddit
Pathetic.
>>676410531
Ah, cuck again.
>>676410472
>American infrastructure is crumbling
>the engineering and builders unions who have no financial stake in it whatsoever told me so
>>676410531
lol so Hillary Cliton
>>676407023
asks the japs how much we couldnt do during WWII
we can
and we will
you must be a snackbar if this concerns you
>>676404077
Because I was smart and responsible in my decision making, and make good money in a fruitful industry, without being mired in useless college debt.
Because I want to aspire to even greater heights, and don't want to be taxed to death by failures. I want to be rich by working hard.
Because I don't want to be a pathetic failure who is taken care of by the government.
Because I didn't give up the instant the gate dropped.
Because I see opportunity for advancement everywhere, not the opportunity to be jealous of others.
Fuck you, OP. Grow up, get a life.
>$35K in camera gear
>just one of my hobbies
>stop being poor
>>676409731
>In Sweden if you have a cough you have to go to the hospital because they have restricted anything containing codeine. I've been there. Besides Advil and other drugs don't work for a viral infection and I'd end up going to the hospital regardless.
Codeine is a STRONG pain killer. Cough medication like Benylin contain Acetaminophen, Guaifenesin, and another two medical ingredients. These other ingredients are NOT codeine. Screw off.
>>676407954
>>676409941
Sorry, was a bit busy getting my bottle of Benylin for the last reply.
I would just implement legislation that doesn't allow them to leave. If they move their headquarters outside of the country, they can no longer deal in products. Imports of their products will be illegal, so on and so forth. I know there would be consequences, but that's the only thing I can think up of right now.
BRB everyone, I gotta take care of my litter box for my cats.
>>676404077
It took me two seconds to find it in Google.
It exists, and you're proof that Sanders is supported by morons.
It's in the Washington post you idiot.
>>676410548
cuck is the conservative version of shitlord
the far right and the sjws are a reflection of eachother
>>676410548
Because he is lol. Get over it
>>676410851
And our economy would shrink and mexicos would boom.
>>676410725
>i haven't driven on any highway in America ever
>>676410472
I cant understand why people's voting for Clinton
>>676410905
Except I'm not voting for anybody. He's just a cuck. Plain and simple. No political agenda to push behind my insult. He just IS
>>676410851
Don't we have quite the doctor here? Have you ever been to Sweden or lived there? Do you know what a viral infection is?
>>676411027
>I saw a pothole once, we need to spend a trillion dollars to fill up all potholes in America.
>>676404077
1. Because he just says what people want to hear. He won't be able to do what he says and if he could, USA would go bankrupt.
2. I work at an Investment Bank (this is actual for real) and I don't want to see my bonus reduced.
>>676404077
pepe would never vote for a CUCK , you cuck
>>676404077
He support Feminist SJW BLM and PC cucks, that alone is good enough reason to not vote for him
>>676410946
I dunno anon, this looks more like a cuck.
>>676407954
the point is that making business pay their FAIR rate instead of letting them hoard money and abuse loopholes will weaken their ability to influence political policy
plus some of that money will go to educating fuckers who would otherwise have become hood niggers and neets increasing their value on the market and letting them work
compare that to giving them further tax cuts and allowing them to come over here to funnel money out of country which will undoubtedly lead to the formation of a new feudal system and the start of a hunger games state
>>676410548
uhhhh reddit is for gaylords like you and all berners you're not gonna find alpha trump supporters there
>>676411032
Older generation is conditioned to listen to the talking heads on the TV. The talking heads on the TV are afraid of the lost ad revenue after Bernie implements campaign finance reforms.
>>676404077
He'd never get anything through congress, so we might as well vote for Kermit the frog.
>At least the frog might get something done in 4 years.
>>676410725
but would it really be a bad thing? thousands of new jobs, that support high paying fields throughout the entire nation? Yeah, you are right. It IS an idea that has personal interests behind it. The working mans'
>>676409261
>Technically it was our fault that the Israel/Palestine conflict is like this.
Either way Palestine has been given plenty of chances to make something out of themselves.
But they refused.
>>676404077
I don't think somebody with zero accomplishments should be president.
>>676411308
>FAIR
define.
>>676411329
What? Why are you retards posting pepe memes with trump in them and cucking all around on reddit?
It's really fucking cringeworthy.
>>676411522
companies should not pay tax rates effectively lower than the federally mandated rate and lower than even individual rates
>>676411480
it's only a good idea if we actually need more infrastructure spending. Spending massive amounts of money and manpower on things that people don't actually need or want is how you make a nation poorer. Creating jobs is not remotely the same thing as creating wealth.
>>676411585
>political undermining from the left that shows how desperate they are
thats why, fag
>>676411686
>companies should not pay tax rates effectively lower than the federally mandated rate
why not?
>lower than even individual rates
why?
>>676411131
Some ones gotta do it. its a country, not a business.
>>676411308
How the fuck have you not gotten it yet?
>stop demanding others pay more
>start demanding less government to pay for
How fucking CUCKED can you be? It's us (all of us, rich and poor) vs them, the government, plain and simple.
Start Googling "government waste" and "government excess". Read. Be sitting down.
>>676411719
construction makes a country wealthier as opposed to fucky trade deals that have only historically made american working class poorer
>>676410725
>Freedom Tower
>Charleston Bridge
>Capitol Building Renovations
>I-40 Repaving
>I-85 Repaving
>New Overpasses and traffic management
What America are you living in?
>>676404077
I'm Canadian
>>676411920
really? does someone need to fill up every pothole in the country? I mean, do we really *need* that? Would spending a trillion dollars to fill every pothole actually benefit the country in a way that even remotely comes close to equalling the costs????
>>676411719
You don't get the real issue here. The created wealth was supposed to go back to the people and the country, so that everybody would benefit from it. But it didn't, because of tax evasion and other dodgy tactics by huge companies. They hoard the money for themselves. And money is power. But we live in a fucking democracy, where the people should have the power.
>>676411980
please google the phrase comparative advantage and get back to me.
>>676405806
I hope you're not against Trump because he has said we spend too much on military and does not want to be the "world police" America has become
>>676404077
Best for the environment= my vote
So Bernie. I also side with him on virtually every other subject besides a 15 minimum wage, I think we need wage to be set at the state level by a federal agency for state depending on their cost of living.
>>676411870
...not really
>>676411920
If only you understand what you just said...
You're absolutely right; businesses have to make sensible fiscal decisions, or risk failure. Government just takes money by force, and changes rules.
No government arm has ever made money. All have just destroyed wealth and created debt.
Time to start thinking, Anon.
>>676411892
because they are some of the highest earners
if they can get away with things that individuals can't on the basis of money then they are basically above the law and that's not okay
companies should not own the government- it only leads to the formation of a poorer working class
>>676412248
>But we live in a fucking democracy, where the people should have the power.
False.
>>676412248
>The created wealth was supposed to go back to the people and the country
No, it's supposed to stay with the people who created it.
>>676412154
Infrastructure is a lot more than just potholes. The water system in Flint Michigan, for example
>>676411522
If you make more, you should pay more. Simple.
>>676411719
>>676412037
What the hell are you talking about? Flint, Michigan; among other cities in the United States have undrinkable water. Some cities are WORSE in water quality.
>>676411892
See >>676412248
>>676412298
That seems even more smart. Good on you, anon. Maybe write a letter to Bernie Sanders.
>PLEASE TAKE CARE OF ME, UNCLE BERNIE!
>LIFE IS SO HARD!
>>676412298
If you truly believe the lie that the environment is in danger then you should just go ahead and kill yourself now.
>>676411719
Clearly never been to an old city..
>>676411892
Because they are making most of the money? Of course they should be taxed more instead of less than the working class. That's how the economy and society is supposed to work.
>>676404077
Vote trump faggot
>>676412551
>the more I make, the more I pay
>no incentive to advance
>simple
You really have no idea how the graduated system works, and how it stifles growth... good little cuck.
>>676412423
you don't think individuals use loopholes to avoid paying taxes? And that this is perfectly legal?
>>676412248
You've never heard the term? Wealth breeds wealth.
>>676411966
governments are wasteful because they are cucked to the companies they contract from
people literally charge the government more for supposed "services" because they can get away with it
letting shitters do what they will without oversight- like from a government will only lead to the destruction of the middle class
>>676405958
>mfw "the party of treason"
>>676404077
Because bernie would probably let a nigger cuck him then fuck him in the ass because he's too much of a beta faggot to accomplish anything.
Dude didnt earn a salary until 40 and he sustained himself by stealing electricity with an extension cord and writing for shitty tabloids because he was too lazy to do anything else.
Is this the guy I'm going to trust my fucking country to? The guy that didn't even start trying to accomplish shit until he was middle aged, presumably because he was too scared to fail?
Trump is a lot of things, and a great president is probably not one of those things, either. But at least he's better than this half-dead shitlord.
>>676405615
>only a Trump supporter would require further explanation
>>676412551
>If you make more, you should pay more. Simple.
this is already happening.
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>>676412466
Not in these kind of insane numbers. They are earning ridicoulus amounts of money yet have to pay the least amount of taxes. They would still be insanely rich after the "rich taxation".
>>676412551
I pay my mortgage in taxes every month.
A whole second house worth of money, just taken from me.
I dread the idea of making more money, to be honest.
>>676412292
that would be great since these actions are the main reason the world is so fucked up in the first place. The US and Israel are quite literally the biggest threat to world peace on the fucking globe.
>>676404077
>we need someone who knows fuck-all about economics to help save our economy
>50 dollar minimum wage, feel the burn xdddddddddd
Yeah, no fuck you. We need a businessman who can try to make America competitive again.
>>676404077
We need nationwide grassroots campaigns for agricultural reform, we need to let Washington know that we need a more efficient and sustainable way to produce food. We need to end factory farm subsidies and only subsidize farms that supply sustainable, organic, produce grown in a closed loop system to local areas.
>>676404077
Anyone other than the working middle class can eat a dick. Bernie is a Jewish Socialist who views the middle class as a work horse for him to accomplish this ill fated agenda. Red pill yourself cuck.
>>676412378
and yes, you are right. They do make risks where business would not. That is because a government influences progress, and supports its workers.
If we left everything up to businesses, we would miss out on a lot of tech. Such as internet, renewable energy, most modern day weapons, and cures for disease.
>>676413219
>muh party of science
>>676412594
I truly believe that this is bait
>have college degree and good job
>have health care through said job
>still supporting Bernie because I recognize that education and health care are good for the future of america
The whole 'free stuff' argument is childish, this is what we genuinely believe will be good for America. You can disagree with the policies, but saying 'You just want free stuff!' is retarded and not an argument
>>676406706
I like how it's only considered spam when there's a consistent theme, as if 50% of the thread isn't just as irrelevant shitposting. The global rule of no spam is the biggest running gag 4chan has
>>676413109
You do relise that corporations all over the US get huge subsidizes that lower their tax then what they actually are?
>>676412657
they already are.
>>676412845
Yeah, we should go after them. How, I'm not sure. But you know who should be paying taxes more? Fat people. For reasons pic related.
>>676413434
yes. Unlike Bernie I'm actually against corporate welfare on principle.
Im a bernie fan but if he doesnt get the nomination its Trump all the way.
Trump is actually incredibly liberal on a lot of policy and hes not openly an establishment shill like Hillary.
I dont know if most bernie supporters are like me but I know a LARGE chunk of them are anti establishment voters who will jump to trump as well if it becomes trump v hillary.
If youre a democrat party supporter you better hope bernie gets the nomination.
>Dear everyone, including minimum wage cucks:
Every week, you don't start making money until Tuesday, or even Wednesday depending on your wage.
Everything before that is deducted. Do the math.
>this is why you are struggling
>>676413565
Fat people cost the healthcare system less.
>>676413565
Should smokers pay a smokers tax? Should single mothers pay a single mother tax? That shit is retared
>>676406944
>implying Congress giving a shit about the constitution matters and that blatant disregard won't result in the Supreme Court swinging the banhammer
>>676413320
Shit, you are stupid.
I take comfort in knowing you'll never succeed at anything, though.
>>676412292
>Trump
>doesn't want to be world police
>implicitly promises to protect Pakistani christians.
>>676413615
fact is Trump is a secret hillary shill and a vote for either is the same as a vote for hillary
>>676413744
>Should smokers pay a smokers tax?
Oh yes fat boy!
>That shit is retared
>retared
kek
>>676413676
Explain.
>>676410262
yeah, Berntard. Real fake.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjyxZ7HO7aY
>>676410262
Vid is real tho, I've seen it.
>>676413668
Brilliant deduction, we are struggling because half of our earnings are cashed in by the government and the companies continue to destroy the working class by not raising wages so we effectively suffer double because of inflation.
Wonderful to see how /b slowly gets bored of Trump's irl shitposting, and slowly realises that Bernie is the only way.
>>676412292
>https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/714189569793646597
>>676410851
You know nothing of medicine. Shut the Fuck up about shit you don't know, you want to make a point? Don't speak out your ass.
>>676414120
They die faster. Same with smokers. A huge percentage of healthcare spending is on people on the last months of life. Smokers and the obese go through that faster.
>>676413744
A lot of countries have additonal taxes on cigarettes and tobacco.
>Capitalism: Survival of the fittest
>Socialism: Survival of the shittest
I hope Bernie wins, I really do. I want America destroyed, because it is in serious need of a reality check.
>>676413863
As a successful engineer for the US government, i will be happy to let you know i take good care of your hard earned dollars.
>>676414306
https://www.google.ca/search?q=ingredients+of+Benylin&oq=ingredients+of+Benylin&aqs=chrome..69i57.5492j0j1&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
>>676414509
I've hung out with you guys. I know your full of shit. Don't care tho
Wants to raise minimum wage to $15 and strengthen unions. Then claims he will rebuild american manufacturing. Idiotic.
>>676414509
Kek'd... everyone on 4chan is an engineer...
Even if you're telling the truth, I make much more than you.
>>676412551
>If you make more you should pay more.
Thats fair enough, but the current system is broken, ESPECIALLY federal tax brackets.
I just got a job that pays 45k a year and I fall into a 25 percent tax bracket, in addition to that I pay 8 percent state taxes with a measly 6300 standard deduction.
45k is not a lot of money yet Im paying right around 28% in taxes every year after deductions and this doesnt even include SS programs like Medicaire and shit.
For a measly 45k, which doesnt even put me at the average American salary, I dont think this is appropriate.
We need to cut spending before we just start increasing taxes, even if it seems fair. For christs sake upper middle class (ie 80k or so in salary) already pay damn near 50 percent in taxes.
>>676413565
>>676413744
actual civilized country chiming in. The way you punish fat people and smokers for being a bigger burden on the healthcare system (since that is the only system they are actually a bigger burden on) you make them pay more for their health insurance, since they are gonna make more use of it.
>>676414430
I see your point, but still: fuck fat people. Make them suffer financially more than the rest I say.
>>676413336
>>676413336
>>676413336
Unfortunately, there is no party of science.
There is a party that understands science, but even most democrats wouldn't support this without a large grassroots campaign.
If science was as adequately considered in the legislative process our country would be much different. There are organizations and individual scientists advising and lobbying congress every day, trying to reason with our with them
But our lawmakers need to see people marching in the streets to do the right thing
Because he lacks a basic understanding of the language he's used his whole life.
Bernie is a shit candidate. Trump is a shit candidate. So is Hillary and Cruz. Rand Paul is the only one I liked and he never stood a chance.
>>676414773
It's too bad the American gov't forces health insurance to make them pay equal next to a fit and healthy specimen. I hope whoever is in charge next fixes that.
>>676413219
Inefficient.
>>676413397
Thousands of people graduate from collage and work mcdonalds becaus3 there it no jobs... ya lets flood the country with degrees that will make everything better
>>676414713
This.
At the end of the year I end up paying around 30% in taxes and I make 50,000 a year, my salary is just 5,000 below median income in the US.
How is it fair that I am paying 30percent of my income in taxes and what I get is:
-No single payer healthcare system.
-Out of control education expenses.
-A compulsory education system that doesnt even reach the top 5 list in the world despite belonging to the strongest superpower in the world.
-No guaranteed income for the elderly or vulnerable.
-etc.
Its out of control spending thats a problem, not a lack of taxation.
>>676415032
Really? Out of all the dank memes, you go with the (proven fake) grammar nazi post? You could at least try anon.
>>676414647
Oh boy, a Google definition on what cough suppressant is. That will show anon, even though I've completely glazed over the fact that this has nothing to do with viral infections and that it would not help someone with a viral infection and would just make their death with less coughing. That will show him that I check my facts and know more about medicine than him.
How about you shut the Fuck up. You're still speaking out of your ass.
>>676415468
>proven fake
loloololool
>>676415468
That's real. Do you even pay attention?
>>676415492
You know what the body does when it has a viral infection? It fights it off. If you're imunocompromised, then by all means go to the hospital. If you have something more serious than just a cough or the common cold, stay home man.
>>676414708
>China is stealing our jobs
>we should lower regulations and living conditions in America to compete with China
Why not just stop outsourcing jobs and increase wages?
>>676415928
Sorry, I mean if you have something less serious than just a cough...
Kinda derped.
>>676415383
How do you pay 30% taxes making 50k? Is this all taxes? Fed, state SS and med?
>>676410851
So that creates jobs...how?
>>676415129
Our current agriculture?
I know.
you americucks are stupid as fuck
>hurrr i want free college like in europe
>instead of paying your student loan in 10 years i want to pay for my whole life for education of lazy poor fucks giving off half of my wage to them
>free healthcare
>enjoy your months long queues for simple basic treatments/surgeries if you don't bribe the doctor first
>>676416093
what a misleading picture
>>676416093
it's funny cause it's true. Hitler was closer to his people and against the establishment than any of the establishment candidates (= everybody but Trump and Sanders).
Bernie akbar
>>676415468
Please stop posting. You're only making things worse for him by lying.
Because he and his supporters are economically illiterate cucks
>>676405958
>Dead Holocaust relatives card
>"Fictional" construct of Islamophobia
>Fight the guys afraid of terror instead of terror
There are people voting for this guy
I made 80k and paid just over 12% fed taxes. Take some deductions.
>>676408131
Obama was Bush 2.0 idiot
>>676415956
That's an idea, but I doubt it'll be implemented. Corporations are legally people with rights to leave America if they so please. How do you plan to change or challenge that? I'm all against outsourcing with you, but I seriously doubt one person can make this change.
>>676415928
Are you fucking stupid? Coughing is a symptom, not a disease. That's why you are told to go to the doctor when you have a cough that last more than a week. If you cough after breathing in dust, that's one thing, but if you are continually coughing you need to go to the doctor, all the "simple" diseases like the flu and sore throat cab develop into LIFE THREATENING diseases such as pneumonia and scarlet fever.
Stop talking like you know this shit, I hope to God you never have kids, you'll get them killed, you'll ended up taking them to the hospital after they go into a coma while you feed them chicken soup.
>>676407826
>If I could upvote, I absolutely would
>>676407629
If by fuck up every company he owned you mean make very successful then I'd like one trump to go pls
>>676414713
No one pays 50%
The cap is 39%
Employers share the responsibility of social security. Also, social security has its own pool. It has nothing to do with budgets, and infact has over a trillion saved up for when all the damn Boomers retire.
But yeah, i hear you. 28% does suck when you still dont have any damn money after paying bills.
Who is to blame? tax rate? shitty wages? probably a mix of both. Trumps plan is actually very similar to Bernies... Bernie just wants business to pay more wages, Trump wants to tax all the cheap shit.. which will also make all our prices go up.
Its a complex problem, no one really has the right answer.
>>Democrat fixing America
>>After democrats broke America in the past 8 years
LOL... Democrats are morons.
>>676416595
>thinks Bernies economic plan is ignorant
>all the other candidates (besides Hillary) are proponents of trickle down economics and across the board tax cuts.
>>676416300
Yeah, Fed is 25, State is 7.8, and SS and Med is right around 7.5.
So before deductions thats 40.3 in taxes. Then I do my itemized deductions since I manage to get over the standard deduction and it works out to right at 30 percent.
>>676417058
This was a valuable post thanks.
i hope your mum dies leo you fucking moron
>>676417112
Switzerland is the most capitalist country on earth.
>>676406473
You have chosen to measure prosperity in one particular way, which involves a mean and is completely insensitive to distribution.
>>676417090
>democrats
>broke America
This is either bait or you weren't alive for the bush admin.
>>676415730
>>676415869
>>676416550
https://twitter.com/sensanders/status/684470762921693188
>>676417058
>over a trillion saved up
Do you not watch the news? You must be bernie.. thats moneys gone bro
>>676417439
You must be a clinton supporter since you dont know how to provide a source.
>>676417288
Thinks capitalism and democratic socialism are mutually exclusive
>>676417383
propose a different measurement.
>>676415383
The problem is low taxation of the rich. Companies and their CEO's are part of our country as well, so they should fucking pay more to support it.. Not hoard it for themselves and to manipulate the government.
If nothing will change people will get poorer and poorer until they've had enough and then we have the next revolution.
>>676416520
Yes, and capitalism has failed horribly. Everyone was supposed to benefit from the success of big companies.
Only Congress can approve government spending. So he can't give any free college money out. He can't force the government to pay for contracts made for college funding. He can't do anything without Congress approval on health care. If he did most people would be paying 40% or more of their income to taxes to pay for it.
>>676404077
Really he's the only option I see voting for.
Its him or Clinton/trump
In short all the candidates are fucking shit. Makes you wonder is this the best that the US really has to offer...
>>676417572
yes I do think words mean something.
>>676414227
Wow.. that puts things into perspective.
>>676417670
>Yes, and capitalism has failed horribly.
give up your computer.
>>676417582
I like how you sped it up to make it look more outrageous because youre a fucking cuck faggot.
>>676417889
>>676417839
I'm on my phone fam.
Having luxury items is not exclusive to capitalism ya know.
>>676417429
yes he edited it when the error was discovered. do you know how the internet works?
>>676417770
>thinks capitalism and a "free" market are the same things
>>676417439
Technically its all in government bonds... but yeah its about 2.9 trill. quick google search would tell you that.
>>676417670
>Everyone was supposed to benefit from the success of big companies.
Pretty sure the idea of capitalism was to reward hard workers and innovators.
It was never meant to benefit everyone, it was meant to weed out and punish societies leaches.
>>676418119
give up your phone. That's also a product of capitalism.
>>676417112
>Doesn't understand what Democratic Socialism means
Maybe Denmark's Prime Minister should speel it out for you autists?
http://www.investors.com/politics/capital-hill/denmark-tells-bernie-sanders-to-stop-calling-it-socialist/
All your Facebook image proves is that the US's health-care system is completely inefficient.
WHY
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NIGGERS
LOVE
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>>676417429
Nice lies kid.
Notice how the dates are months apart?
>>676418145
yes I do think words mean something.
>>676415730
>>676415869
>>676416550
Really, 22k retweets?
Font size fuckery?
You think that is real?
You think
>>676405958
surely this is bait
>>676417599
>college recruiting for awful degrees because they only care about money
>being unemployed and in debt vs not in debt
>>676418121
Oh. maybe you should go try to edit some of your twitter posts.
>>676418253
Those African American women are not niggers, they don't want handouts for free.
>>676418145
They are the same thing, Bernie-cuck.
>an economic and political system in which a country's trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit, rather than by the state.
>controlled by private owners for profit, rather than by the state.
>rather than by the state.
>>676404077
faggot, vote trump
>>676414012
Hey Ted! How's Heidi after your scandal?
>>676417768
Were not to the gen election yet theres still time for people to throw there hats in
>>676418343
>Really, 22k retweets?
yes when a politician makes a fool of himself on twitter it tends to get retweeted. does that surprise you?
http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2016/03/06/Bernie-Sanders-leads-the-field-in-deleted-tweets/7901457303262/
>>676418673
According to the same "source" (kek) Obama had 12 mistresses.
>>676411032
Lies throughout her entire political career.
She should be in prison.
But hey lets vote for her.
>>676418214
Did you even read the second sentence? Why are you still stuck in cold war era american propaganda?
>hurr durr in socialism nothing get's created or invented and if it does it breaks!
>>676417913
>>676417774
>one misquote vs literally hundreds spouted by Trump
it doesn't matter that Bernie was quoting a real nigress
>>676418506
I don't use that left-wing electronic mob website.
>>676418253
they were paid to
>>676418343
It's one person posting the picture after Sanders changed it. So yes, seeing as how people on /b/ made a few threads bashing him for it when it happened, yeah I think it's real since it is.
>>676410845
>like a boss
>>676417572
Switzerland has a very small welfare state, which is why migrants tend to avoid living there. Pretty much every citizen buys their own health insurance. There's over a hundred different competing companies and since it's required by law to have insurance, the cost is lower. You don't need bigger government to have affordable health care.
>>676418858
was your cellphone built by a SOE?
>>676418931
proof?
>>676417669
Median household income corrected for purchasing power.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/166211/worldwide-median-household-income-000.aspx
>>676414288
> post a tweet < 150 characters
this is why I hate Twitter and probably why they didn't shoot off in the public market like they thought. When are so little words to be used that can't already on FB...?
Anyway if you aren't autistic enough to read a good amount of words have at this:
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/03/27/us/politics/donald-trump-transcript.html?_r=0&referer=https://www.google.com/
>>676406507
Average libby right here.
>"Someone made a decent arguement I can't disprove? Ahh just say it is fox news haha thatll show em"
>>676418244
>investors.com
No wonder they don't like Bernie?
This is just arguing semantics, it's not like Bernie sanders is proposing authoritarian socialism.
I agree with Noam Chomsky that Bernie sanders is essentially a new dealer. But I don't judge him based on how he chooses to label himself, I'm looking at his policy.
>But we digress. This is about Danes being offending
>being offending
>>676418559
>cuck
Damn, you are obvious.
>>676418858
You're a fucking tool. Read a goddamn history book. Socialism is a resounding worldwide success!
>I ignore reality because I don't like it hurr durr
>>676419111
Here is proof of cucking around at least.
>>676408481
this article says that suicide are in no relation to the healthcare system.
this article is complete bullshit
there is also not a single fact in this article, only assumptions
go shoot your hand of and try to get free toilet paper at the hospital you fucknut
>>676413676
No it costs more. Go work in the medical field. The majority of people in there are either old or fat fucks.
How often do you see skinny young people in the hospital consistently.
Also its hard to do everything on a fat fuck. Drawing blood, surgery, fucking everything. Everytime a fat fuck walks through the door it pisses me off because I know they are giong to be difficult.
>>676416093
hitler was an OG. can't compare these jokers with hitler my niggah.
>>676419349
Do you have an actual rebuttal or are you going to keep shilling?
>>676418559
Companies are controlled by private owners, the state simply regulates the market to make it fair to the market and the American people
>>676404077
court packing has always been so popular!
>>676419394
Totalitarian socialism. Yeah, who would've thought that dictatorships would fail? Gosh.
Retard.
>>676419129
>>676419129
>http://www.gallup.com/poll/166211/worldwide-median-household-income-000.aspx
this still indicates America is an incredibly prosperous country. But you should really look at per person income not household income and look at actual data not surveys or polls.
>>676419686
>the state simply regulates the market to make it fair to the market and the American people
Do you understand what regulating the market implies? Control is lifted from private owners to the STATE
>>676416595
and you're telling me that trumps supporters are not fucking retarded?
>muh free healthcare
>muh free college
>muh gimmiedats
http://www.usdebtclock.org/
>muh crushing debt that will lower the quality of life for my children and my children's children
>>676419564
Thank you based medfag.
>>676419680
Sorry, I'm not going to waste my time with Trump cucks.
>>676419903
Poor redditor is all out of arguments
>>676419474
so morons who shoot their hands off getting free stuff is your standard?
I'm a bit confused.
>>676419639
>hitler was an OG. can't compare these jokers with hitler my niggah.
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what's the chances of bernie winning, anybody predict or will it be clinton/d.t?
>>676418352
It is. It is the writings of Pamella Geller, race baiter extraordinaire
>>676407826
Not every country pays to remain in the EU, the poorest countries receive development funds. And yes, every state has a say in every EU rule that is passed.
>>676420075
>implying I support Trump
>>676417428
>>676420178
I'm not even a trump supporter but I have no idea how someone can want Muslims to enter their country.
>>676416467
This in every way. Fuck the two party system. Both democrats and republicans can go fuck themselves.
>>676405806
Based on the numbers I've seen America is the richest country in the world (going by GDP), though it also has some of the poorest and worst cared for citizens in the developed world.
When we talk to Americans we feel SORRY for most of you. Your government is corrupt, your education system is borderline useless, your healthcare is horrifically overpriced even for the people who can afford it and you have higher rates of violent crimes than most of us and your violent crimes are much more often fatal to somebody.
If you want to "Make America Great" then start by helping the people that need help and stop giving more to the people who are already obscenely rich.
>>676419957
No.
The compainies are still doing their own thing they just comply with regulations set by the government. That's the way America and every other successful capitalist state works. Are you saying that America is socialist?
want no regulations? Go to Somalia it's a free market paradise.
>>676407954
No, because they'd still have it better in America than anywhere else. What creates jobs, is the fact that if you put more money into the hands of the people at the bottom, they get more disposable income. more disposable income means more will start businesses, or will be able to pay for education, or will have the means to get to and from a job. This intrinsically helps the economy. I thought this was common knowledge sense the whole trickle-down theory has been proven to be shit for unemployment?
>>676420486
i hear left and right, conservative and republican, and my mind just goes fucks them in to one word. 'retards'. what's point in labelling these ppl when neither are any better than the other.
>>676420287
Islam is not a race.
>>676420113
QUOTE FIGHT
who's ideas aren't working now?
>>676419980
Anyone that thinks voting for either of these fucks will change this nation is a fucking retard.
>>676405958
>party of treason
What even
>"holy war to destroy us"
Because we didn't invade Iraq, destabilize the entire middle east region, creating many angry groups of people with nothing left to lose (because we killed their families to get oil). Then when Syria entered a historic drought and people began uprising, we again gave farmers military weaponry and training and left them to fight these radicalized and now established/ organised angry tribes (ISIS). So basically, my tax money, and yours, has gone to supply ISIS with easy sources of weapons that were supposed to go towards fighting Assad. So our colossal military spending is going towards arming farmers to fight a legal and established government.
>opposing islamophobia = opposing jihad terror
There are 1.6 billion Muslim people in the world, Bernie is opposing the generalization of Muslims and associating them with a minuscule amount of extremists.
Do you guys ever question why you don't hear about mass killings or acts of "terror" that aren't propagated by Muslims? It's because the media is working hard to buzz word their way into making you think that it's "Muslims" that are the enemy "waging a holy war" on you. This is fucking ridiculous and my country has gone to shit. I even have people that say ahh we like Bernie but he's not going to win so I'll probably vote Hillary.
Have we really become such sheep that we can't even cast an anonymous vote for something we think is right just because it might not win?
>>676405381
Then you'll understand the problems with having something like healthcare run by private companies with the funds and power to fight and restrictions that might be imposed on them. Everybody without exception needs healthcare and in a lot of states they aren't legally required to explain what the bill is for, so they can charge whatever they want with no repercussions.
Free markets are great until somebody gets a monopoly, from there things can only go downhill.
>>676420432
poor shoop you cuck
>>676420836
Tom Sowell's ideas have never been implemented.
>>676419957
Ya know, one thing that really gets me is that everyone loves to make fun of Trump's hair, even though Bernie has the hair of a evil scientist hobo.
