Getting tired of race being brought into every argument.
ITT : not a race hate thread. A thread about hating talking about race all the time. And
lol both those fags are dumb niggers
>>675806322
Are you one of those retards that thinks race is nonexistent?
>>675806322
Why dont tell them that blacks are the majority of crime. So what she says is bullshit.
And tell her what you say means all blacks are at war with all races?
>>675806950
OP here. No I don't think race is nonexistent. I just don't wanna talk about it all the time. I'm sorry some people are racist. I'm not. But I don't like being treated like I am just because I want to discuss something without having to argue about race. If I want to talk about countries fighting, and not what they're fighting about but rather what they did to fight I should be able to do it without hearing about a racial issue that's irrelevant to the discussion.
Glad to see reddit's awake
>>675808787
It is about noon time
>>675808787
OP: This
Nignogs will always be more racist, dont matter though, we got /b, we win
race has a lot to do with things, but you need to learn how to flip that back at em, like shit mane, we all frum da dark continent
After more than fifty years of government sponsored brainwashing, racism today occupies a place similar to the place occupied by heliocentrism in Gallieo's time.
Both cases are examples of beliefs being violently opposed by their times’ ruling regimes because those beliefs bring into question the legitimacy of those ruling regimes.
In Gallieo's time the issue was that if the earth was not the center of the universe, then the Pope was not just fallible but he was murdering people to maintain a lie.
Today the issue is that if there are significant differences between the races then the government has been enforcing a lie.
The evidence overwhelmingly supports both the theory that the sun is the center of the solar system and the theory that there are differences between the races which are more than skin deep.
People may not be being burned at the stake today, but the example of the police officers in New York and Ferguson shows that in today's’ times even the accusation of racism can get people murdered and shot.
>>675806322
She's tuggin on superman's cape.
>>675806322
Between black entitlement and white insecurity, racial divisions won't fade for a long time.
you told a black person to run you racist
>>675810110
>Between black entitlement and white insecurity, racial divisions won't fade for a long time.
Your statement is based on the premise that both races are functionally identical.
I submit that this is a false premise, and therefore there will ALWAYS be "racial divisions".
>>675810574
Do you have any proof that they're not? Other than 1800s pseudoscience about the negro being inferior.
>>675810821
>>675810574
what differences both are soechircal and grown in orcards
>>675811372
Liberals are just socialists that won't admit what they really are.
Socialism is a religion for people who worship the power of the state.
The Principles of Socialist Belief.
1. Socialists are better than other people.
2. All people are the same ("same" is spelled "equal").
3. All human behavior is determined entirely by environment.
1 explains why socialists are entitled to lie, cheat, steal and worse when dealing with non socialists or non "true" socialists.
2 gives socialists an excuse to attack anyone who questions their beliefs.
3 explains how all social problems can be solved by throwing money at them.
The more astute amongst you may have noticed that principles 1 and 2 are mutually exclusive. That does not matter, what is important is that everyone should believe what they are told to believe.
The fact that every one of the above principles is a lie is also significant.
>>675811335
That's nifty and all but how does that show that they're not functionally identical? Did you ever consider that the crime demographics could be due to cultural differences? There are quite a few successful black people in the world and you think they just overcame genetics? Look at black people raised outside of black culture. Their entirely different which wouldn't make sense if the root was genetics.
>>675811866
so you made a list and called it a lie, why not tell us what it is conservative guru
>>675806322
As a black guy it's because you've never lived as a minority in any given society. You only know the perspective of being the majority race.
Race is an integral part of how systems and communities work and have worked throughout history. For example you talk about the Japanese and WW2 through this "non racial" lens and completely ignore the Japanese internment camps that Germans nor Italians at the time had to deal with, solely the Japanese.
Now your typical ignorant white guy is going to say well "it has nothing to do with race, the Japanese attacked us and that's why we discriminated against them but then still why not do the same for the Germans when we officially declared war on Germany?
It's just bullshit with you guys..
Do I like white people? Not really.
It always seems like hollow bullshit with you "people"(and I use that term solely for context) lies and deceit, it just never ends with you guys to be honest. Your entire history is predicated off mass war, slavery, lynchings, colonialism, central banking, etc. and that shit still continues today! Everywhere still, it's just not as abrupt because as we all know we're in the Middle East for "freedom" and gadaffi and other prominent Africans were killed not for trying to free Africa but for "killing their own people".
I don't think a people who have invaded and raped as much as whites are inherently altruistic as I also don't think Jews being kicked out of nearly every society they've inhabited because all of the other civilizations were "being mean" and not Jews being conniving and manipulative and this is ignoring the fact that Jews and whites are genetically very similar, you're basically the same race.
It's crazy it's like even whites know they're shit, they just think Jews are different when the reality is that you're practically the same race. Whites think "Jews" are evil when in actuality Jews are basically white people.
>>675812273
HAHA BLACK GUY DOESNT EVEN HAVE A BOOK OR SKILLZ TO READ IT OR HE WOULD KNOW WHITES ARE A MINORUTY
>>675809266
Word
>>675812273
I a lot of what you said but true Jewish people are middle eastern. Just saiyan
>>675812447
A global minority, I'm talking about America specifically.
>>675812447
Can you provide a source?
>no? Kek
>>675812273
Jew is not a race, it is a religion. Doy doy nigger.
>>675812273
>Your entire history is predicated off mass war, slavery
Like other ethnic groups never did anything like that. The world was a paradise where all lived in peace and harmony before the white man ruined it.
How liberals "think":
If white people have made serious mistakes, then they cannot be the "good guys".
And if they are not the "good guys", then they can only be the "bad guys".
And yes liberals are exactly this simple minded.
>>675812656
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/06/25/census-more-minority-children-than-whites-more-whites-dying-than-being-born/
http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2015-05-19/whites-surprisingly-chill-about-becoming-minority
>>675812656
http://www.vice.com/read/looks-like-white-people-will-be-a-minority-in-the-us-pretty-soon-vgtrn-825
>>675812273
Jews ARE the same race you retard, they're Caucasian.
>>675812273
Except that whites are the minority now.
You mean Cannanites
>>675812656
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2015/07/06/its-official-the-us-is-becoming-a-minority-majority-nation
>>675812656
>>675812536
>>675812858
http://m.livescience.com/40247-ashkenazi-jews-have-european-genes.html
Jews have many ties to Europe, Ashkenazi Jews are mostly genetically European.
>>675812949
You've done WAYYYY more harm than good, way more. Some people think you're the bad guy because you've done more bad in general and CONTINUE to do it, you never stopped, that's a meme.
What confuses me most about this kind of debate is that people tend to ignore the fact that true equality can only achieved in a perfect society, which we obviously can never have, given human nature. They also ignore differences in subcultures and incentives caused by them. In a predominately White, Asian, or Indian middle class area, a student will typically be pressured to work hard and achieve success, whereas in a predominately Black or Hispanic poor class area, students are far more likely to fall prey to the "thug culture" touted by their peers. Of course there are more variables that this that lead to success, but these typically have the greatest impact.
Long story short, environment = level of success.
>>675812273
The fact that you blame white people shows just how little you understand about your own history. Whites actually had the least involvement in the slave trade. If you had any brains in that monkey head, you would be mad at the Africans who rounded your ass up in the first place, South America where the majority of slaves went, and Jews who were the majority of slave owners in America.
>>675813627
after hitler killed all the ascetic jews
>>675813241
That's literally what I just said.
>>675808306
shitskins whine a lot about the fact that they are well.. shitskins get used to it
>>675811909
>shows a difference in factual statistical data
>but how is dat different tho
you can't be this dumb bad bait is bad
>>675813732
1.Jews and white people are basically the same race genetically.
2. Africans didn't sell "their own" people, the concept of race wasn't as strong back then, the most try had to fear were other tribes so they developed mutual distrust of each other just as every other race did.
3. The majority went to South America at the height of Spanish imperialism so no the mass majority of African slaves that went to South America served under Europeans, just different europeans, in North America, it was British Anglo Saxons, in South America it was the Spanish, and this is also ignoring Africa and Asian, and southeast Asian imperialism that was to come only a couple decades later and the totality of all the bullshit that was done there.
>>675811909
>cultural difference
>there is no difference
pick one it can't be both.
also notice a majority of the successful blacks are in a white culture
>>675813709
>Long story short, environment = level of success.
See:
>>675811866
>3. All human behavior is determined entirely by environment.
I mean what even constitutes a white person anymore. Slavs, Mediterranean, and Eastern Europeans are all clumped together as being "white". Apparently if you have fair skin you're clumped together with every other single person with fair skin. Makes no sense.
>>675813779
But I thought /pol/ said the holocaust was a lie? Hmm that's weird, seems like you guys just say shit whenever you want to feed a specific narrative.
>>675814699
that's how conversation works you gotta steer
>>675806322
call her a Nigger, that'll teach her
>>675814569
*tribe
>>675812273
Holy fuck. You people (and I don't mean blacks, I mean everyone who has this stupid opinion) are what is wrong with this country. You claim racism is bad while generalizing the entire white race.
Here's a fun fact for you: because you're black, you have BETTER opportunities, legally, than whites. You have a better chance at getting accepted to a college. You have a better chance at getting a loan. You have a better chance at getting and keeping a job. There are federal laws in place for each of these things.
So, with that being said, what is the end game for you people? Since things are already MORE equal for blacks and minorities, at what point will you be satisfied and say whites are not racist?
>>675812273
take a look at africas history and tell me that blacks don't senselessly murder rape and pillage.
Better yet why don't you look at how much white influence helped south africa before niggers regained power
>>675815058
"regained"
The word you are looking for is "given".
>>675811335
Even with all those stats, this does not prove any fundamental difference based on genes. Usually the problems are socioeconomic. That being said, there are differences between the races. Almost all of the differences are physical, not mental.
Black's are morons. They have low IQ's and go on about loving Jesus still.
>>675815012
This is a lie, affirmative action has always benefited white women more than any minority.
http://ideas.time.com/2013/06/17/affirmative-action-has-helped-white-women-more-than-anyone/
Also there are 8 studies linked in this video proving most of what you said wrong in terms of there being no disparities.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fTcSVQJ2h8g
It's hilariously better for white people than it is for blacks people, to think otherwise is pure unfiltered retardation.
>>675815435
>Usually the problems are socioeconomic.
OBJECTION! Unsupported speculation stated as fact.
>>675806322
I too hate when people do this, but she has a point. The rules are different when we whites want it to be
The "Fighting back with violence" card is almost always met with claims of backwardness when played by minorities/non-whites. She is merely holding the guy accountable to the same standards.
Just look at the shit Hamas gets for arguing the same thing.
>>675806322
I was just thinkin the same thing maybe 5 minutes ago
>>675815058
just gonna drop this lil guy here
>>675815058
http://www.amazon.com/Lost-Cities-Africa-Basil-Davidson/dp/0316174319
http://www.amazon.com/African-Cities-before-European-Conquest/dp/039309166X
>>675815012
That is all true except the part about blacks having better chance at getting a loan.
And if you haven't figured it out yet the answer to your question is never. You can't be satisfied if you're racist yourself, have no concept of actual history other than spoonfed regressive bullshit creating a victim complex, and are closed off to differing opinions and facts.
>>675812273
Name one country in the world that is succesfully being run by blacks without creating every sort of rukus.
Dont forget americans are only a small part of the white population, people of walmart dont apply to other countries. Sure we might have the occasional autists, but it isnt on that scale.
>>675815058
>Better yet why don't you look at how much white influence helped south africa before niggers regained power
It's very easy to build infrastructure for 20% of the population while using the labour and profits of 80%... Try doing that fairly and you'll end up like your white brethren in Greece.
>>675815604
I don't think you know how affirmative action works
>>675806322
you've got it all wrong op.
it's niggers who make everything about race, yet are the biggest criminals in america. they are without doubt the #1 problem in america. come to /pol/ for a day and wake up.
normal people don't race bait and make race the stance of every issue- it's niggers
>>675813709
Fuck equal society
YOU CANT HAVE AN EQUAL SOCIETY WHEN THE OTHER PARTY SEEKS DOMINATION.
>>675816255
not to mention, Mr. AnonaDubs, theyre a subspecies of tribal inferiors. rescuing one or ten blacks from their own culture so they can become successful doesnt account for the entire race being a melanistic parasite with handguns.
its like purebreds at a dog show. are they actually better than the mutts at home? or do we just give them a pedestal
http://angrywhitedude.com/2013/07/essay-by-a-teacher-in-a-black-high-school/
>>675810574
>Implying socialism has anything to do with race
>>675815727
It is supported since at least one person, me, supports it. That being said, it is speculation. So is the study I was responding to. I present people two speculations so that, given thought, they can decide for themselves which is a better representation of reality.
>>675815604
>affirmative action has benefited white women the most therefor affirmative action it is a lie that affirmative action doesn't benefit minorities
so it benefits the group with the largest
populous the most because there is more of them... you don't say... your logic is astounding
>>675816292
Remember what I said about Europeans keeping other people down?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=trhcKP53r4U
Watch this video, Google ANYTHING you don't believe, everything this guy says is the truth.
About the proposed AMF, using gold to trade, etc.
You make yourselves out to be the helping hand lifting Africans up when in reality you're the ones who have destroyed any chance at African happiness and truthfully non white happiness practically fucking everywhere except for yourselves, your entire history up until the modern age can basically be summed up to that.
You people bastardize the concept of altruism, whites committ war and genocide for "good" reasons, it's all hollow bullshit.
>>675816391
Affirmative action isn't just college you fucking retard, it's a massive social welfare program, college is like one piece of the pie and it's only focused because it steers people away from the all the benefits whites have and continue to get with it by focusing on the small part of it that somewhat helps blacks.
>>675815764
You might be a retard. There is a difference between an act of war and racism. Also have you heard of the Japanese internment camps ? I would rather be a Japanese person in America then a American in Japan during ww2
>>675813292
why is that a problem? Do majority races historically mistreat minorities?
>>675817852
Violence, division and exclusion is violence, division and exclusion in and out of war
War is meaningless, the struggle is the only truth
>>675816255
Specifically home loans:
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2010/08/24/nyregion/24hud.html?_r=0
So wait are you supporting the fact that different races are indeed different on a genetic level?
>>675818035
From someone who's experienced exclusion first hand, you're an idiot. You can't even grasp simple concepts. Go spin somewhere else, your bullshit doesn't work on anyone who isn't looking for pity points. Go make your own way and stop looking for handouts from whitey.
>Be me
>TA for a biology lab
>Teaching about eyes and eye structure
>We start discussing how average unaided vision has decreased since glasses were invented
>Talk about how excellent vision can now be substituted by manmade technology
>Genes have changed, use this to show that evolution can sometimes lead to subjectively negative qualities
>Black girl in the front of the class
>"So vision isn't necessary anymore, like the ideas of race and gender."
>She does this shit at least once a week
>I sigh and say
>"That's a horrible analogy. This is a class focusing on hard sciences. Please keep your soft sciences in the psychology building where they belong."
>She gets really really angry
>I know I fucked up but it feels good
>Continue teaching as though nothing happened
>Two days later
>Get an email from my supervisor
>Meet with him
>He tells me I need to be more subtle next time
>Girl oversleeps the midterm and I fail her
>Feels good but I know I lucked out
>>675811909
Cultural differences for sure. Black American culture is trash. The people who are the creators of and perpetuate black american culture?
Blacks. Duh.
>not a race thread
>certain races are the ones prone into bringing race into everything
Kek
>>675812273
>your entire history
How about your entire history?
It was killing in Africa, kidnapping people and selling them to white men, then crying because you've been kidnapped and sold. Then you were freed but insisted on being different from white men so much that you created this bullshit culture of today, and complain when people don't let you kill everything and sell drugs.
>>675814699
>This guy disagrees with me on this issue
>He must be the same guy who disagreed with me on a different issue
Talk about generalizing.
>>675816031
That is gold
>>675819263
>>675819263
For black people before see
>>675816062
For black people today, specifically in America, ghetto culture is shit and I wish it would go away, that is the fault of us and no one else. That is the only point I will give you but black people are not ghetto culture and ghetto culture is not black people specifically. Many other races have their own damaging cultures akin to that of ghetto culture.
>>675819455
They share the same quintessential views, though?
>>675811909
>>675815435
http://news.discovery.com/human/genetics-neanderthal-110718.htm
>>675820618
>They share the same quintessential views, though?
Considering one view is that the Holocaust never happened and the other is that Hitler killed a lot of Jews in the Holocaust--no, they do not.
