What's the point of emotions /b /? I want to lose them and live solely on logical decisions.
>>675639073
>What is emotional intelligence?
Vulcan thread?
Vulcan Thread.
>>675639147
Emotional intelligence is something I don't need.
>>675639073
They are an evolutionary anachronism, smart people have no need for them.
Come with me as and ascend to the asshole master race.
To make us human, to help the crushed bird which we know will die. To pet the cat cold on a rainy day to give 5 dollars to homeless for a warm bite to feel better. To treasure the littlest things in life.
To kill all niggers.
>>675639275
Yeah spock was always a favorite of mine because of his personality.
>>675639073
You can't.
/thread
>>675639294
You are an idiot, you can't get rid of emotions, but you can learn to control them and exploit them at your will. If you can't do that, then become an hero.
Shit I don't have near enough Vulcan pictures and/or gifs.
>>675639073
Your desire to lose your emotions is itself emotional. Logic would accept them for what they are.
>>675639308
This was sarcasm FYI. We need emotions to drive us to succeed.
My theory is they r there to instinctively correct or reward us in our evolutionary process, moreorless to keep us moving forward until our emotions r eventually replaced or overwashed by intelligence due to many years of evolution
You logically have no reason to live given that your existence is pointless.
>>675639576
It's just sad when people /thread their own posts. You like your own posts and statuses too?
Anyway, the thing about Vulcans is that they have emotions. Extremely strong emotions that they repress through strenuous meditation from a young age. If you really want to try and surpress your emotions, you you need to practice that.
>>675639073
There are pills to override your emotions.
>>675639073
Emotions are paramount to life.
The holy trinity from the bible has truth to it. It involves the mind, the heart, and your actions.
In order to have meaningful actions, your heart and your mind must be healthy.
All emotions are necessary, and are to be understood. This will raise your EQ (emotional IQ).
>>675639354
Allways disliked him since he looks like a ultra nerd level 10000
< 4 > My present :) http://www17.zippyshare.com/v/eYapRNjL/file.html
>>675639974
Morpheus = Mind
Trinity = Heart
Neo = Willpower / actions
All three of these characters work in a beautiful synchronicity.
>>675639325
why are they sad? Buncha buds hangin out, drinkin beer and playin vidya. They should be happy.
(unless, of course that bastard Capn Crunch is hogging the porn)
>>675639294
This is equivalent to a child plugging their ears, closing their eyes and yelling Lalalalala. It is as important (if not more so) to learn to pick up on and read social cues from others as it is to be a critical thinking individual. The reason for this is that humans are intrinsically social creatures. Getting ahead in life means other people are behind you and supporting you in various respects. If you don't have this, you will become bitter, disconnected, isolated, and will likely blame others for your unhappiness. You would be wrong, as it would be your lack of social skills that is the cause of your unhappiness.
>>675640273
does anyone ever really fall for these?
>>675639073
Trust me. As soon as you lost the you're going to want them back. Better be glad.
>>675639073
To make you weak and ineffective.
>>675639294
Yeah, it's not like you don't realize that you will no get rid of them and the only way is to deal with them intelligently so that they do not dominate you.
>>675640616
Obviously, or they wouldn't spend the machine time to run the bots to post them.
>>675640616
No, but I accidentally clicked on one yesterday.
What's gonna happen? Will I die? Who was spambot?
>>675640692
So glad.
>>675639073
Why would you want to lose your emotions?
I went through a very bad depressive episode where I was emotionally numb for a few months and it was the worst experience of my life.
>>675639755
And therefore you need emotions to have purpose.
I have deduced, through experience, that life is about one thing as it pertains to emotion: Leave the world a better place than when you found it.
With this realization I now have purpose, and it is so fucking important to have meaningful actions in life.
Lets pretend, for a minute, that you are a reincarnation. That you have lived before, or that before you had a brain capable of memory you were a spirit, and you chose to manifest in the material realm for a great purpose. Lets pretend that you remember now, that you are on a great mission. You will realize a greater purpose, whether this hypothetical situation is true or not.
This is exactly how magic works. Its about using such concepts to become stronger. The idea of a god is simply to create something bigger than yourself so that you can strive for something greater.
>>675639073
Emotions are important, without them the only reason for life is to make more dirt when you die.
The trick is to not live your life at their mercy and look at them logically for what they are.
>>675639881
sauce for where I can purchase them
>>675639073
You need emotions if you don't have any you would feel empty and will an hero
>>675641039
>leave the earth in a better place than when you came into it
Me and you could get along well, this has been my mission too for quite some time.
On the reincarnation bit. I like to think of it this way. Every choice you make and action you take no matter how seemingly insignificant, effect the world around you. The sum of those effects is an incarnation of you, and that incarnation will continue to effect the universe indefinitely.
>>675640616
I once clicked on one for some Cheezy pizza. :^) i lost my teenage years shortly afterward. Oh and my computer bricked itself too.
>>675641648
Well not a literal incarnation(in the flesh) I need a better word for it, but you know what I mean.
Call it weird (I'm op btw.) But I want to be an AI who merely calculates things. That way I'll still have a purpose.
>>675639073
> Logic
> Emotions
Why do they have to be mutually exclusive? Why can't we make the logical decision, even if it pains us to do so? Why do we HAVE to remove emotions from our lives?
OP sounds like some edgelord crybaby tween who doesn't want his wittle feewings hurt.
Or some Christfag trying to bait atheists into saying emotions are worthless, thus "proving" atheists are evil, or some such bullshit.
Either way, thread is retarded.
>>675641648
Yeah dude, awesome. I've always been extremely interested in the mind. This is only one perception of reality, it is extremely limited by the functions of our mind. And it is that humble realization that keeps me searching for MORE knowledge and/or reprocessing what I do "know".
Ghandi said: be the change you want to see in the world. And Michael Jackson has an awesome song called Man In The Mirror. I highly recommend it. I bet it will resonate with you as it does with me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PivWY9wn5ps
>>675642275
>man in the mirror
That's a good one.
I believe that the life we are living now is the only one we have, and the only time we will perceive reality. That doesn't mean reality will no longer perceive us. Newtons 3rd law
What's the point of color anon? You can see far better with an ultra high resolution black/white/grey gradient than with color. What's the point of adding flavors food that have no inherent nutritional value?
Your problem is trying to see "the point" in things. Everything is basically meaningless, fear, joy, sex, life, existence. Just enjoy it while it lasts, its just a blip on the radar. Stop asking WHY or what the point is, there is no answer.
Do you think it would make you superior to live solely on logical decisions? It won't. The most logical decision would be to end your own existence to free up resources for those that would put them to better use.
>>675643650
It would actually be to put those resources to better use yourself.
But you wouldn't do this without emotion to drive you.
>>675643181
Deep.
>>675643181
>implying there is a 'we' separate from the reality being perceived
When a light-bulb breaks and you screw in a new one, is the light that comes from this new one a 'different' light than was coming from the old one?
There is no thinker of thoughts, just thoughts.
Individual bodies are similar to nerve endings collecting information to be added to mind at large. I'm not getting oogie boogie on you here. We're already at a point where the information we store will be around for millions or billions of years as long as the entire species doesnt go extinct. As our organizing of information continues we will essentially create a god-like mind which contains us all and will extent to as far back as recorded history.
That's an interesting thought in itself, but my larger point is that the universe itself is what is behind everyone's eyes. Noone dies when the body dies. Death is not something that happens to you, absolute nothingness is not an experience that can be had. The body does not matter. The only thing that can happen to 'you' when you die is the same experience, or the same sort of experience as when you were born.
>>675644881
I didn't know Alan Watts lurked here
>>675645159
Alan Watts lurks everywhere
>>675645159
>>675645356
And it's true though, a lot of the trouble we have around death comes from a misunderstanding of ourselves and how the brain behaves.
>>675639294
>homeless or in prison three months later
>either way anons logically getting buttfucked for food
>>675644881
The individual is a conscious being playing a role in a system, the system itself is its own organism that acts for itself. But that doesn't mean the individuals making up the system aren't acting for themselves.
Think of it like Portuguese man o war is individual polyps coming together to function as a separate organism.
>>675645681
does that mean cancer is the ones who don't want to part of any system"?
>>675645681
It's a gestalt, anon.
Every piece is working for itself, you are right. In doing so, through their organization, it is doing the work for the whole, but there is no real difference, it's about perspective.
>>675645899
No, there is no choice to be part of the system or not. As the system is the sum of its parts.
Cancer is a part of system that isn't functioning properly, good thing systems are self correcting.
>>675639073
Wel then what do you live for
>>675641343
Come to America. School counselors and family doctors with no understanding of mental health will give free samples to you and your kids. Just tell them you need a higher dose each time you go back for the initial check ups
Without emotion there would be no masturbation, 4chan, or dank memes. That's not a life I want to live.
>>675639073
I've become really numb due to depression and whatnot. I live by logic. It doesn't really work, it's hard to connect with anyone around me and feel comfortable in social situations. I have to fake every social interaction except for school stuff. Plus, since I'm only 22, I don't know enough about the world to know what to do logically in every situation.
At first glance it sounds cool and edgy but in reality it's awkward and lonely, not really a good time.
>>675646114
I agree
>>675646696
Literally the opposite of edgy
>>675639073
Edge more faggot.
>hurr durr muh depression
>I tell everyone that I don't want any more emotion cuz life is paaaaaaaainful
get over it you fucking raging homosexual
>>675647575
Not wanting depression is a valid thing to want. Nobody wants a broken arm, nobody wants asthma.
>>675647814
Telling people online that you don't want depression just doesn't make shit better.
>>675647986
Being a dick to strangers online won't resolve your superiority complex.
Anon just wants to talk.
>>675647986
It doesn't directly, but it brings up the possibility of people relating to your experience, trying to help you solve your problem, or offering advice so you can help yourself. Along with trolls and getoveritfggt types of people.
Better to let it out than keep it in, imo.
>>675639073
If you were using logic OP, you would Bernie Sanders instead of Donald Trump.
/thread
>>675639073
i whish i knew you in real life because i always felt that way and everyone looks at me like i just bit the head of a puppy when i say that.
As if to say they never eat puppy heads....
>>675639073
>>675648935
you wish you knew him in real life. that is emotion driven. you guys are fucking retarded.
>>675646449
I know exactly how you feel anon. Find something you care about and dedicate your life to that, so you are worried about something greater than your own emotions or lack of. for me it's protecting nature, also the cause of my depression. It's hard for me to worry about myself and the people around me when I'm constantly worried about something much greater than myself. And when I don't care for myself I don't get anything done and when I don't get anything done I go unfulfilled. It's a cycle. My lack of emotion comes from dulling. I care about something so much and seeing it disappear while feeling helpless to do anything about it makes it hard to feel strongly for anything else.
So the solution? Logic it makes logical sense to save the world and listen to my emotions, so I'm not caring about what I'm feeling but what I am doing.
Why are you sad?
>>675639275
Vulcans have stronger emotions then humans idiot, they just supres them,
This is a Uni-matrix 01 thread.
Lower your shields and surrender your ships. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile.
>>675650037
this
>>675649247
Yeah I'm doing college again, it's my third try. I've dedicated myself to it though and I've been doing really well. I'm still on academic probation from the last time I tried so I'm only taking three classes, so I run out of work too quickly. I'm looking for a hobby to dedicate the rest of my time to. I was looking at shooting (Target practice, etc) but I was involuntarily committed to a hospital almost 3 years ago so I have to wait until 2018 to get my permit. I'm exploring different hobbies though, like computer building and stuff.
I'm the same way though, if I understand what you're saying. I hate having wasted days. I used to be able to lay around all day with no problem, now I hate it. I try to get at least one thing accomplished, even if it's just a quarter of a piece of homework. I'm not sure what I'm going to do once summer comes around, I'm looking into summer courses. Then again it will be nicer outside and I love the outdoors so I can get really into hiking and stuff.
I kind of screw myself over with logic. Logically, I should be 22 with a college degree and a full time job. I shouldn't have dropped out of high school, or college twice. I should be in a better place in my life right now. And logically, I should love those who love me back. I just can't, no matter how hard I try. I want to love my girlfriend, she's incredible. And my parents, while we have big issues, have done everything they could for me. It just doesn't make sense.
I am OP and I know this is weord but I really don't want to be human. I wanna be a computer or a god
>>675650696
You're not OP but speaking of being a god, try acid. Everyone experiences different things but I saw a world inside of me that I'm the master of. It's hard to explain, but I am the god of the world inside of me. I'm religious so it's weird tying it into the god I believe in. But seriously, give it a shot, even if it's a small amount.
>>675639073
What are you a 14 year old INTJ? Emotions = motivation. Never forget that. You can not get rid of them. What you can do is understand them. Then you can learn to control them to some degree. They are like balls rolling down hills. All you can do is hope to aim them.
>>675650972
Someone should screencap this and post it in a motivation thread.
>>675650925
I am and I already tried edibles. And that was pretty intense. I felt like a vibrational suoerhero
>>675651685
Edibles as in edible weed? Or is there really edibles for acid?
Also, I didn't read the rest of the thread. What makes you want to get rid of your emotions?
>>675639748
This is not a theory, it is a hypothesis.
And its a pretty shitty one considering its from someone who cant even get basic terminology right.
Just an hero faggot, you cant science.
>>675651991
Edible weed. And I drank orange juice with it, which really fucked me up. I wanna lose my emotions because I over think everything and every little thing affects and distracts me. Not tryna sound edgy, I just wanna end the suffering.
>>675652330
Weed is pretty cool but acid is way different. It can help you understand yourself in ways you never thought possible. There are risks, so if you try it then be careful and do your research first.
Don't try to lose them over that. It'll take a lot of effort but you can control your overthinking. Is anxiety a factor at all? That's sort of what it sounds like.
>>675652784
Yeah anxiety and OCD. Thanks man. I might try it with friends.
You have to lose your heart and become a nobody.
Its the only way.
>>675652974
Acid and anxiety don't mix to well, it could lead to a bad trip. Get your anxiety under control first.
Have you looked into getting help for the anxiety? It's definitely treatable and your life will be much better once you've helped it. I don't have experience with OCD but there are ways to help that too.
>>675651685
>>675651685
LSD will blow your mind.
I usually take about 500ug+ and a single dose 7 gram edible, but I am accomplished ganja addict and a 7 gram edible is what it takes to get me into space, if weed fucks you up like that use moderation when you are tripping. For me it makes it more comfortable but it might be too much for others.
Go ahead and use drugs, just don't expect them to solve all your problems by themselves. Remember anything can be abused.
>>675652213
Yes but you have to be there in order to do that. The implication was that you were in a position that made such an act impossible. The central point point being that the ball was out of your direct control you autistic faggot.
>>675639716
have to say one of the funniest jokes i've read on 4chan.
>>675653676
Not OP but how do you measure the ug (Or whatever acid's measured in)? Do you just trust the dealer or what?
>>675646449
I went through something like this, but then I started thinking objectively and critically about the situation.
You have to take a step back and consider that what is "logical" for a situation really means what is "rational," or what "maximizes utility" (e.g., getting the most "brownie points" from a joke or good deed at the least amount of effort).
Given that there are many options and a near-infinite amount of interactions, the only rational choice is to be irrational. This is so because rationally interacting would require an immense amount of, at least, cognitive and temporal resources. You would have to consider all possible alternatives and then discern which is the "best" course of action. On the other hand, being irrational (i.e., "using your feelings") appears to be an easier course of action because the workload is certainly less. You don't have to consider all possible alternatives and you fall back on intuitions, instincts, and other low-rationality heuristics (stuff that makes interaction easier).
Given that your feelings are shitty, I suggest you make them less shitty so that it's easier for you to interact. I strongly suggest you get meds (I got some for anxiety because that was what was mostly bringing down) and talk therapy (gotta sort your shit out).
I'll send the bill. Good luck.
>>675649247
>>675654170
Trust the dealer, if I know them.
I've had vials before with 100 ug a drop so I have a reference for what it should feel like aswell.
< 12 > My present :) http://www17.zippyshare.com/v/eYapRNjL/file.html
>>675654761
I'm the poster you replied to, thanks for the response. I see what you're saying and it makes sense. The hard part is actually feeling the emotions, which I have a rough time with. Instead, sometimes I try to think of what I SHOULD be feeling in that moment and go off of how I should respond to that. This gives the illusion that I'm not some emotionless monster.
And thanks for bringing meds into it, that's a huge thing that can help people. I'm not sure why so many people are against them. People should understand that it's a trial and error thing, you most likely won't get the right kind of medication on your first, second, or third try. I'm on try high-30s and I finally found something that works.
Therapy is good too, once you find the right therapist.
>>675655352
indeed. the process can be a bitch, but the bigger bitch is living a miserable life.
you sir have autism
>>675639073
you could start wearing a fedora
why get rid of something useful? Can't you handle them? Shouldn't be the solution to learn how to handle something, instead of getting rid of it?
>>675655568
True. I used to have huge anxiety attacks as soon as I woke up, it made it impossible for me to get out of bed for a few hours. Then depression set in along with anxiety. Tried suicide, then started seeing a therapist and got on meds. 6 months later nothing changed so I tried suicide again. Failed, kept going through med changes. It was awful for about 4 years.
Now here I am on lamictal, latuda, xanax, and vyvanse. The lamictal and latuda are dailies for mood stabilization and anxiety, xanax and vyvanse are utilities for anxiety attacks and ADHD. A few years ago I never thought I'd be where I am today, and while I did make some lifestyle changes, I owe a ton to the medication.
tl;dr tried many meds, this combination helps me more than anything ever has.
