I'm so bummed out. I want to join the military, but I recently discovered that I will be disqualified if I have self harm scars. They are on my left arm, my right arm is clean. I don't have any actual records of self harming, the only proof I have are the actual scars. I was an idiot and these scars are from years ago. Is there anything I could possibly do to qualify? Do you know of anyone who had scars but still somehow made it?
I also have a couple on my leg, but those ones look more like an accident from barbed wire or something.
Just go there and if they ask just tell your story. They will take a mental test to see if to you are totally fine and if you pass the test just go
>>675462621
So just be completely honest and get a mental test? I'm seeing a recruitment officer today.
>>675462765
Well just ask ask about it and if they say yes then be honest and say its from years ago because you got bullies or stuff and you want to join the army to get your self confidence up or something like that. If they dont take it ask them about a mental test or something.
Here in my nation we have a test about your school, mental and body, its also alot of talking before beeing taken
dont speak about it past everything
but slught scars on forearm
letter in mail denied
u will be also
>>675463068
Alright man. I know I'm mentally stable, because it's been years since I've cut and I've handled worse shit since then without even thinking about hurting myself.
>>675462219
Get scare removal therapy or a tattoo
>>675463552
Will I qualify if I have a tattoo on my forearm/wrist though? The scar removal therapy sounds like a good option.
>>675462219
Cut out the entire patch of skin, say you were burnt and it's a skin graft.
>>675463846
They will check military records
>>675464024
Good thing you don't have any military records then, eh fagotron?
Could I get a mental evaluation first and show them proof that I am stable? Would that work?
>>675464024
But since I have no military records, what will they do?
>>675463722
I'm pretty sure you can go in with a forearm tattoo. Google that shit if in doubt.
The military is going to be rough. They have to know that they can put you through some of the worst times and you won't do anything stupid to yourself.
>>675464316
I just did. So far so good as long as they aren't offensive tattoos. I may just get tatted up.
I had a history if self harm that left quite a number if scars on my shoulders and back. But I lied when I went through processing, now I'm in the navy.
>>675464408
Well, I was really young and dumb. But I stopped cutting, and I even went through a shitty abusive relationship without ever putting a blade to my skin. The scars were from when I was around 14.
>>675464670
What did you say? And looking at my scars, what would be a good excuse?
Only way is to burn off the scar tissue.
>>675464803
Your scars are obviously self harm, no way around it. Try doing what >>675463846 said but not as extreme. You'll have to burn some of it or somehow obfuscate the lines so that it's not clearly razor blades that did it. Then you can say you wrecked a bike, fell trying to jump a hurdle on the track, got in a car accident, whatever.
>>675464748
But if faced with some really shitty situations, would you cut yourself again? Depending which branch you join and which job you do, you could be faced with some of the hardest times of your life.
>>675464803
I told them I fell off my dirt bike while not wearing a shirt, and went head first into a thorn bush. For you, say something like you fell out if a tree and scraped the fuck out if your arm trying to grab the trunk. Idk anon yours are a lot harder to lie about.
>>675465046
I did actually get into a car accident just last summer, I have proof of it and everything. Maybe I can work with that?
Quit the shit and kill your self enough with the baby shit slit your throat
Bro I lied about all sorts of shit to join the marines. Didn't tell them about my history of depression seeing doctors trying to kill myself going to rehab for cocaine and alcohol. Where there's a will there's a way bro you can easily lie about some scars just make up a story about them
>>675464024
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>>675464285
I meant medical not military
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>>675465054
I deeply regret ever cutting. It was the dumbest thing I have ever done. It pains me just thinking about what a fucking retard I was. I can't see myself ever doing it again.
>>675463068
dont say this, they have plenty of good candidates. You fell off your bike trying to do a trick. Its just a scar from falling off your bike. Stick to the story. Otherwise they will not want you. Even if the KNOW what it is, they want to hear you say it was a bicycle accident. Dont say car accident, that should have police reports. You fell down cement stairs, you wrecked your bike. Stick to something innocent and simple that cant be backgoround checked.
>>675465223
You have to make the scars not obvious vertical/horizontal slice marks but then yeah that'll be the perfect cover.
>>675465081
Yeah the scars are lined pretty perfectly..
>>675465437
Well I do have legitimate records of a car accident, so maybe that could work?
>>675465437
This
This may seem far fetched, but could I maybe say my psychotic ex used to cut me up? My ex was literally a psycho, police records and everything.
>>675465679
maybe, but remember they are not stupid. Many could tell what kind of scars those are. Remember this. Even if they know what it is they will ask you. They EXPECT you to lie and make it out to be a bicycle accident. They are wanting to see if you're dumb enough to admit the truth. Bicycle accident, trying to do a trick, dont get too specific. Stick to "I fell of my bike sir" "Sorry sir I fell of my bike" Never recant what you say. Make up a lie for it and stick to it. They really just want to know if you have brains enough to do that. You cannot admit self harm. Bike fall. And good luck anon, I want to serve my country too.
>>675466085
So just stick to the same "I feel off my bike" lie over and over? That honestly seems like my best option so far. I feel like they would see me as weak if I caved in and admitted to being a self harming little cunt anyway. I am so determined to serve my country, especially since most of my family has served too. Thanks for the advice, and good luck to you as well.
>>675465914
NO nothing that complicated. The recruiters will know right off the bat. What they want to know is if you are stupid enought to admit it. Nothing with police reports. You fell off your bike trying to do a trick. Make something simple and stick to it. They already know, they are testing you to see if you are a dumbass. Keep it simple stupid.
>>675466492
Nothing complicated. Got it.
>>675466578
no sweat man, you tried to ride your bike down concrete steps, you fell and put your arm out. I did something similar and still have a similar scar. Keep it simple. Keep it believeable, and never say you self harmed or let your ex cut you. Even if they know, they expect you to not be a dumbass. Dont admit anything. You fell off bike. You will be ok. Probably even get commissioned. Just dont admit anything like you cut yourself or let your ex cut you. You fell off your bike trying to go down rough concrete steps. End of story.
>>675465343
Depression is a contageous disease. You'll be around a lot of guys all the time. If you have a depressive personality, it will influence the unit and bring morale down, making you mission ineffective. If you were once suicidal, chances are you still are a potential threat to the units mindset.
>>675466393
MEPS is gonna call you out on your shit. They're gonna say bullshit like, "we'll check your hospital records, when you're in boot camp we have FBI agents doing searches on you."
They're gonna scare you, but it's all shit, if you cave in, there goes your one chance to join.
>>675467444
Most people tell me I have very positive vibes. I wasn't really suicidal either, I was a shitty, attention seeking 14 year old.
>>675467326
>>675467815
Thanks for the tips, anons. I even had a quick pep talk with my dad who's military, and he told me the same thing.
I was misdiagnosed with asthma cause I was fat as a kid. Literally only ever used my inhaler when I had bronchitis. I was like 11 when I was diagnosed, which is still acceptable. But would it be better to just lie about it? I mean I have a buddy who just hid his inhaler throughout basic. But I don't know the extent of review they give medical files.
>>675462219
Don't talk about it, but if they ask just say what you said here and I think you'll be fine.
>>675468533
So far lying about it seems like the best option.
Burn it. Claim accident.
>>675468533
When I say misdiagnosed, I mean I went to the doctor and told him, "when I was at practice I was really out of breath, and it felt like I wasn't getting enough air." Which I now know is just being tired, I was just a kid who wanted to be "special".
>>675462219
Don't join the military you fucking degenerate shithead. Just fucking end yourself like you should have years ago.
>>675468640
Yeah I don't plan on randomly bringing it up. But I'm just overthinking about what will happen once I'm told to strip down and get my body examined. I asked my mom if she could see the scars on my wrist, and she was like "..What scars?". Apparently in some lightings they aren't even visible. Maybe that will be my luck.
Lol lie you noob, literally don't say any thing and when they do ask about it have an alabi, say you worked with sheet metal or something assanine like that you'll be fine the only way you don't get in is if you say something retarded
>>675462219
If you want to join the military, you are still an idiot.
>>675462219
kill yourself faggot
>>675468533
They don't look at your medical files. It's against the law, even for government checks. They say they will but it's shit. I had an inhaler prescribed to me once, cause the doctor mistook allergies for asthma or something, and I still joined. They'll never know unless you outright tell them
>>675469072
No.
>>675469072
>>675469072
nice try tho
>>675469169
So it's all scare tactics to see if you will cave in? Wow I actually had no idea, I thought they could look through your files. Well that's amazing news for me.
so many military fags in this thread
>>675469377
My recruiter told me the same thing, and I got there, and the questioner was really convincing. I managed to confess about acne medication, because it was still in my blood, but they don't care about that shit. Also the blood they draw from you is to test for like HIV or some shit so I was safe to begin with
>>675462219
I know that feel, doc prescribed me pills I used for half a month
>>675469823
Well what were you expecting? I asked a military-related question.
>>675469868
Well now I'm a lot less nervous. I was freaking out earlier today because I was searching up some of the requirements, and they made it seem like they would check your files.
>>675469963
Anti depressants?
>>675469868
Same thing as in it was all scare tactics and I didn't fully believe him
>>675470269
If you still recall, what were some of the questions they asked to scare you?
>>675470148
Don't get me wrong, they do check law enforcement records. So like misdemeanors and felonies and shit. I'm not sure about traffic tickets cause I never had a law record, but they only care about tickets if they're not paid off, cause they don't want you to go to boot camp, then get a warrant, and have to deal with a paperwork shit storm
>>675462219
Salt and ice challenge
>>675470527
My record is actually squeaky clean, so I should be good.
If someone hasn't said it yet, there are some things that help to cover up scars. I forget the names of them, but if you apply these things every day or so your scars will become less visible. Google it
>>675462219
>>675462557
Those look like grill body parts so tits or gtfo womyn need to be in the kitchen not the military
>>675470396
The dude gave me a sheet of paper with names and offenses, and he was like, "these people were all caught lying to us and they were prosecuted" or some shit. And he also said shit like "we have 40 FBI agents looking through ALL your files when you get to boot camp, and if we find out you lied, you will get kicked out and charged"
And after every time he asked if I did drugs or weed, I was like "no" and he looked at me all skeptical and he was like "are you SURE you never did weed? Not even one time? Never in the same car as a friend who did weed?" Shit like that. It's all bullshit to scare you cause I smoked weed like 5 times two months before. Some of my brothers in my platoon were straight up potheads and dealers
>>675470801
Yeah I've been looking some stuff up. Apparently vitamin E can help make the scars less visible. Gonna try that too.
>>675471195
It should work after a few days, or so. It should then make scars less visible. I hope everything works out for you, anon
>>675471058
Well now I know what to expect. So it's actually illegal for them to look through your files, correct? I guess I'm just gonna keep a straight face and lie if I need to. Not gonna cave in.
>>675471319
I really hope so. They are extremely old scars, so I hope it will still work on them. Thanks anon.
Is that you Andrew?? I hope to fucking god it is because you're fucking hilarious
>>675462219
Just tell them you were trying to light a cat on fire and attacked you...