I am looking for an actual Picture taken from
a satelite or from outer space from the Earth
if this is not posibble because Earth to big
tell me why,
all i can find are Animations and CGGI graphics
>herewego.png.tiff
I think you answered your own question. I thing a satellite can only be so far up to manetane an orbit. Any higher and the satellite is lost in to space.
>>675432173
apparently there arent any.
people say the blue marble is the only real photo
but i have heard thats dubious aswell.
>inb4 flat earther
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/photo_gallery/photogallery-earthmoon.html
nice thread, i haven't thought about this before but now i'm also curious.
>>675432173
Mfw, stop toying with it. You weren't meant to think.
>>675432173
if this leads to you spouting some flat earth bullshit just go kill yourself
>>675434410
Fake moron
>>675432173
learn to google you fucking cuck, or for christs sake just go to the godamn nasa website. stop watching flat earth videos on youtube, every one of those godamn video creators has a book to sell, they dont actually believe that bullshit
>>675434039
I'm sure a lot of the variation can be attributed to the advancement in technology, the movement of weather systems and not all continents are the same colour, some are dry deserts, others are green forests and scrub lands. But Nasa have admitted to editing the colours in photos such as ones of mars so that it would more accurately portray what people expected so I wouldn't be surprised if 1997 to 2007 were enhanced to get people more excited about the whole space exploration and discovery thing.
>>675432173
>if this is not posibble because Earth to big
i hope you are a nigger or arab, else you are ashaming your race
>>675434607
How is it fake? Because you said so? Okay kek.
>>675432173
You just played yourself.
>>675433189
>>675434283
>>675434410
>>675434622
>>675434725
>>675434826
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And this, ladies and gentelmen, is what is called "scientific illiteracy"
this person has the same sort of brain as say, a 18th century peasant farmer in siberia, being presented with a copy of an encyclopaedia. Doesnt matter that th entire sum of mankind's knowledge is at their fingertips, when they're unable to read any of it.
specifically, the sort of idiotic shit with people saying "that's CGI". when they dont know what the source of an image is, instantly dismissing it.
100,000 years ago, these idiots would be the ones going "Ug said that the big yellow things with manes and sharp teeth eat humans. Well, I dont believe that!" before walking out into the savannah. 10,000 years ago, they'd be the one who was told the mushrooms were tasty, but dont eat the red ones, and would promptly go out and try a red one.
the shame is, today, they dont get weeded out the gene pool for their idiocy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPXYUR5TqAQ
>>675434940
That's an intelligent thesis, my underaged friend. But now let the adults talk and go play with your Lego.
Eath is flat.
no ha managed to supply op with a picture yet
lololololol
>>675435206
/thread
>>675434725
so once again.... not real photos.
back to square one we go
>>675432173
>>675433189
What is the Deep Space Climate Observatory?
>>675435057
People like this are what drive economies because they are clearly easily influenced. Want to make money? Target the weak minded.
>>675435324
who is Danky Kang?
>>675435206
I think so too. Theres at least a 50% chance
>>675435057
Sure they do.
Have you never looked at the Darwin awards site?
BTW there is nothing wrong with wanting to see an untouched photo of the entire planet.
OP appears curious and asked a question.
I have not read the entire thread but why do you assume he is implying flat Earth or some ancient ignorance?
>>675434283
came here to post this
why cant you...only because the Earth is pear.
Checkmate atheists
>>675435295
Do you really believe that enhancing the hues in a photograph renders it not a real photo? I mean, seriously and sincerely, you believe this?
>>675435057
It's hard to compare today with a long time ago. For example it would have taken a speculating crackpot to say the world was round when their was no evidence of such.
Also I'll note that 'the Darwin awards' has wreaked havoc with peoples understanding of evolution.
>>675435391
Heh
>>675435391
yeah 50/50 at this point for me
not enough proof on either side
>>675435356
>Danky Kang
I don't know. I leave that kinda stuff to the kids and half-wits.
>>675435447
How has the Darwin Awards had any effect at all on a theory?
>>675435498
>tips fedora
>>675435430
if its not an original untouched photograph then it is not an original untouched photograph
thats like saying they only fiddled with it a little bit..
not good enough
>>675433189
the moon.........
>>675435553
>Owning a fedora
How do you even wear it? Doesn't your tinfoil helmet get in the way?
>>675435419
>being this brainwashed
>>675435352
Nothing to do with driving economies. Just the fact they are scientifically illiterate
they are presented with images, and yell "CGI" or "Sheep" without any actual understanding of the science involved... they are simply illiterate.
Its akin to looking at this picture, and concluding that because you cant read the words, that means there's no proof the earth revolves around the sun.
>>675435430
if mars isn't red but you tweak the photo to make it look red then...
From a scientific standpoint it would be interesting to see what colors need to be enhanced to really see things in the image. Maybe pictures from space can't really capture the blue like we think.
>>675435430
i wish the hues in this thread were enhanced
>>675435633
Ni you line the inside of the fedora with foil.
>>675435699
then what?
Are you just saying words that you know?
>>675435419
now prove its real please (if you can)
>>675435685
True enough.
>>675435554
I agree they shouldn't edit the photographs at all and it's a shame that they have done that in that past but if OP wants a picture of the entire Earth from space then the Nasa pictures meet that criteria. Even if I put a black and white filter on it the photo subject is still the Earth. None of the details of it have been edited.
>>675435775
its real. Stanley kubrick made it
>>675433189
>Manetane
>>675434940
Sheep is plural, no need for the "s" at the end.
>>675435538
Because a lot of people think it's how evolution works.
A quick example being that most of the people involved have already reached puberty and many have children. Evolution happens over a very long period of time and we are all a pinnacle of it's efforts.
>>675435766
then................... its not fucking real is it!
i was just saying you can't fiddle with the photos and expect people to just say 'cool'
are you just posting things you have heard but never bothered to question?
>>675435745
They seem pretty optimal to me.
>>675435852
how can you be so sure? heres a tip
you can't. think about it. you are taking peoples word for it
>>675435775
its real okkayy. nsa said it is and nsa is like super cool with awesome technology and stuff and nsa is part of the usa USA USA
>>675433189
you could form a stable orbit further out. even millions of kilometers. you just need to have the right speed to counteract the gravity of the earth.
>>675435905
Actually evolution can happen quickly but that's usually because of mutation not selection.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XG90YYHCSeA
>>675435999
Also check um
>>675435999
The mutations are tiny giving a 50/50 chance of improvement. Then culminative selection takes over which is a long and drawn out process.
>>675436024
nice CGI you have there
>>675435986
True but that goes both ways.
>>675436108
Yep sounds right. Microevolution though, that's some scary shit.
>>675436130
exactly. good man.
thats where Im at at the moment.
>>675435905
anon its 2016. isnt it time to let the evolution bullshit die?
>>675432173
Here OP this is the Unaltered photo Earthrise Per NASA's website.
http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/imagegallery/image_feature_1249.html
The other post was color corrected this one is not.
Sadly it is NOT the entire planet as it is in shadow as to why there are none. None have yet been taken. You can make requests at the NASA website or create a petition at https://petitions.whitehouse.gov
Ain't America great?
>>675436242
how can you personally be sure?
>>675436239
Only if you want to deal with super bacteria.
>>675435852
>I agree they shouldn't edit the photographs at all
the problem with that is, the images would be shit. Utterly shit.
take those amazing photos of Pluto. what you actually got was a dark grey image, on a black background, lit with a light the size of pen torch from the other side of the room. They are simply impossible to see detail in.
pictures like the 2012 version of the "blue marble" are composited, the cameras taking the pics dont do a wide-angle shot. so you get "strips" of view of the earth, as it rotates. so they're all sewn together to make an image that is visible.
Some, like >>675434283 and >>675435419 are a pure photograph, from back in the 60's when they used film. the only retouching done on those has been to scan the negatives, and clean up any dust, scratches etc, and fix any loss of colour due to 40 years' storage.
The problem with taking a photograph of Earth, that satellites cannot be outside earth orb.
If the satellite were very long away from the earth, then it will get burnt by the sun.
The man on the moon was also proven to be false.
Making a picture of earth, they take pictures and merge together and put it on a sphere.
I'd like to put out there that conspiracy theorists are the actual sheep, letting themselves be led astray by anyone with the ability to make and upload a video to youtube, or before, by anyone who could make a website with all text in caps (that's just about everyone on the internet).
>>675435905
Well that is the "theory" as I said.
We may change it at anytime as Science evolves.
>>675436239
I would have to ignore more than I accepted to do that.
>>675435928
Is what real? It's a photograph of another planet, who gives a flying fuck if rocket scientists determined that camera A with 230um wavelength is better then "true" color camera because of considerations like weight, radiation hardness, and temperature resilience.
I build this shit for a living bitch, what the fuck do you know? Are you making the claim that the pictures are 100% fake? then you're hopeless. Are you saying that its a real picture but the hues are corrected? then who gives a fuck its a picture of the fucking red planet.
>>675436242
are the schools closed? why are you on 4chan at this time?
>>675436327
Don't worry about that. Evolution prefers balance.
>>675436430
>balance
Actually it prefers survival and reproduction which is not what we want harmful bacteria to be doing.
>>675436325
Because Several Astronauts said so.
I have no reason to doubt them they are not trying to sell me anything.
How can you trust anything any person ever said or wrote?
Listen Anon I am a Chritian I have many many doubts about things men say.
But to be honest most of those doubts are of men who wear funny hats.
>>675435570
fake 'n gay
>>675436385
my point was u dont know and neither do i
so stop acting like you do
cuz dont
ok?
Mars is red? Haha. Last time I was there it was grey as concrete.
>>675436325
I can personally be sure because I build satellites that go into space. I have talked to astronauts and studied orbital mechanics. I have held in my hand objects that come back to earth from space.
I am sure.
>>675436509
Actually it prefers balance or bacteria would have wiped us out and all other life a long time ago.
>>675436242
You can't be on the moon, NASA just wants a really big attention.
>>675436519
>Because Several Astronauts said so.
wow
thats incredible. ok mate, enjoy that belief
>>675435206
Eath might be flat but Earth isnt
>>675436617
LOST
>>675436558
not ok
i do kno
4 a fact actually
ok?
or do you want me to explain again from the beginning with fucking crayons this time?
>>675436618
>what is immune system evolution
Seriously though the human race proves that balance is BS because we're really throwing a lot of shit out of whack.
>>675436617
>increasingly less sure
>>675436750
sorry, have you been to space with your little camera mate? or did you just take your crayons
>>675436377
>>675435905
Oh sorry Anon.
My question was not about the "Theory of evolution".
It was about how the "Darwin Awards" effect the average person view of the theory.
Darwin Award are presented to folks who have removed themselves from participation in the gene pool? That has little effect on the Theory either proving disproving or teaching folks about it. It really isn't related at all. (Unless you think men are fools due to genetics? I think folks are willfully ignorant... That's a choice not to read and view things with an open and curious mind...
Steve Irwin was a very intelligent man, yet he still did stupid shit. And it ended up killing him.
>ITT
>>675436763
I agree. We have sort of evolved beyond evolution. But that is the real fear, not bacteria. What will be the great balancing act of nature? It's inevitable unless we think of something really clever and inventive to dig us out of this inventive hole we've dug.
>>675436108
>The mutations are tiny giving a 50/50 chance of improvement.
wow, that's ignorant
literally no one can name a positive mutation that is solid, while the negative ones happen literally all the time and you give it a 50/50 chance?
>>675436617
Surely someone presumably as smart as you wouldn't be taking the bait from retards who are trolling and thinking the Earth is actually flat?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=H-REzr7HB9E
Dish network has a channel for that
>>675437092
only one person in the entire thread stated the earth was flat
>>675436834
What is it you don't believe? that space exists? Why do you not believe this?
>over 100 posts and no one posts "pale blue dot"
>>675437157
And that's all it takes.
>>675437031
Dude' it's armchair reasoning. If you make a big mutation it's very likely to be bad. If you make a tiny mutation it is 50/50. Think about focusing a microscope. Make a huge adjustment and the sample will either dissapear from view or you'll smash right through it. Make a tiny adjustment and there's a 50/50 chance it will bring the sample into better focus.
>>675437092
pissing in an ocean of piss anon. Just fun to argue sometimes.
>>675437225
no... how did you get to that conclusion?
I'm just a friendly reminder that all these things you are posting require at least a certain amount of belief for you to accept them as true..
which isn't very scientific. id urge you not to post pictures you oxidant take and scream that they are real at people on the internet. thats all. harmless
OP here
why can we take Picture from Moon and Jupiter but not from earth explain plz
Here's one taken like within the past 5 years. Can't remember the satellite but it might have been a Mars Orbiter leaving Earth's SOI
>>675437402
are you sure?
>>675437150
Wow.
>>675436424
I work at a School.
But I don't have to be there until after 3 it is called a swing shift, or second shift. You think everyone works 9-5?
>>675437150
so the clouds where resting for these 24 hours?
this one was taken by the people who told me they took it. what do you think?
>>675436430
>>675436509
>>675436618
>Evolution prefers
I would have you know that I have personally spoken to Evolution about this (we were in the same soccerteam back in high school) and it prefers to being what it is and not what it isn't.
>>675437585
you are fucking retard
>>675437363
So its a really a philosophical thing then?
>How can we be sure of anything beyond ourselves?
What is your view on The Matrix paradox? That it is very possible that we are trapped in a machine that perfectly feeds our brains what we think we experience, and that is the entirety of our reality.
Once you get past that its easy to take most of the world at face value, more or less.
>>675437352
top kek, you're deluded as fuck
>>675437633
>once you realise the matrix is a film
> you can believe anything
I'm just saying you can't be sure so please dont be
>>675437624
we are all retards my friend. you just have a more convincing photo
https://www.flickr.com/photos/projectapolloarchive/albums
>>675436623
I am not on the Moon.
I am on Earth just like you are.
However twice now I have gone to Observatories (Griffith, Palomar) that allowed folks to look through their telescopes at the reflectors placed on the moon by one of the Apollo mission. They bounce a laser off of them to tell things like the exadt distance of the Earth from the Moon.
Pretty neat stuff.
>>675437633
>calling it the matrix paradox
nigga
>>675437402
if this is real, then why is america tilted?
>>675437615
Don't get caught up in rhetoric, concentrate on what is attempted to be communication. "Prefers" is just a phrase I used to give an over view of what's going on. For example DNA doesn't 'want' to replicate, replication as a characteristic will automatically proliferate.
If the earth was flat it would contradict so many navigational devises. The entire system of using trigpoints for cartography would not work. Nor would navigation by stars or sundial. The ego of an individual who could comprehend an environment where upon a flat planet could exist with all the laws of a spherical in place just for that individual to exist in, beggars belief. Sounds like it's fingerboxes all the way down.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turtles_all_the_way_down
>>675432173
Follow some of the astronauts on Instagram. They post pictures from space ALL the time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCsfTlpk9ak
>>675436648
Its funny when I debate evolution in the other thread folks whine that Books and science say it is so. So it must be true..
Funny I debate against stuff I have NOT observed not stuff that I have.
>>675437959
are you sure?
>>675437363
>I'm just a friendly reminder that all these things you are posting require at least a certain amount of belief for you to accept them as true.
Incorrect.
What it requires is an amount of understanding.
I understand the basics of physics - newtonian laws, gravitational constants. I have done experiments which measure those in labs, as a kid. I can conclude that the fundamental basics of orbital mechanics appear to be as they are published, from the examples I've tried.
I also understand that a rocket will go upwards when chemical reactions occur. Make it big enough, you get it to go very high indeed. I also understand the principles of photography and what that involves. Therefore, even though I do not understand the attitude control systems of a satellite, I can make an educated conclusion that the people with a budget a metric fucktonne bigger than my old university days, can angle the camera, satellite, orbiter module, or whatever, to get a good picture.
In the words of newton to Hooke, this is to "stand upon the shoulders of giants". I understand and appreciate that they have performed actions greater than those I have, and all evidence indicates their processes are sound.
it doesnt take "belief". I do not "believe" that Nasa magically put a camera in place to take the Blue Marble, any more than I have to "believe" that there is currently a plane at my local airport, even though I cannot physically see the airport from my window. I know that this has taken place. All evidence indicates it. If you have to prove everything, then let me tell you, red mushrooms with white dots are poisonous. Since you cannot believe this without proof, go on, eat one. Have fun.
We as a species have grown because we are capable of taking the facts demonstrated by others, and accept them. If we all had to somehow prove every first principle, we'd still be bashing rocks together and teaching how to make fire.
>>675437507
They do, you are clearly just retarded.
The clouds don't appear to move because they actually move across the Earth's surface quite slowly (about 30 or 40 mph), so in the 12 hour period that you can see a continent the clouds only move a few hundred miles, which isn't that noticeable.
You can skip or speed up the video to see it more easily.
>>675437714
Yes but at a certain point you need to accept that the world does, in fact, exist.
You sound like a skeptic. Aristotle quipped on the skeptics quite a while ago. He said, "The skeptics state that they don't believe in anything, but I find it funny that none of them have ever walked off a cliff or stood in a fire."
>>675435775
now prove its not real please (if you can)
>>675437913
If you can't word yourself properly then don't.
[spoiler]I actually don't give a shit about your opinions and was just laughing at your attempts [/spoiler]
If a plumber tells me my pipes are broken, I'm going to listen to him, because he's a professional. (assuming he has a license, that is) So the same things goes for space. These people are professionals, please understand that it's their job to be correct, so unless YOU FUCKING GO INTO SPACE YOURSELF, SHUT THE FUCK UP. AND LISTEN TO THE PROFESSIONALS, YOU FAGGOT.
>>675437867
was trying to dumb it down for this idiot, sue me
>>675438215
Funny how everyone who's critising me is doing it with insults and not logic.
>>675438038
well said but i will respectfully disagree
your 'education' simply allows you to believe in things easily
because what you know or have been taught has biased you towards it being possible.
i have not once said any of this is impossible
but my original statement still stands
you have to believe in some small way.
>>675438194
i can't and i never said i could
you could do the same rather than post pictures you believe in
>>675438259
My lawyer will call your lawyer
>>675438347
Calling an idiot an idiot is logic.
>>675438188
the world exists sure but the walk off a cliff or jump in a fire argument is just dumb.
i know cliffs are high and fire to be hot
we have all experienced this first hand
not through a photo or nasa tweet
i burnt myself. this i do need to believe anymore
it happened and is true
>>675438259
dont call me an idiot while I'm not around please.
>>675438259
sure thing m8
>>675438500
How about you explain yourself? Let's see how smart you are or are you just an idiot who insults things you don't understand?
>>675438361
Science doesn't need faith. It needs the ability to look at a set of information and being capable of understanding it.
You obviously are not capable of understanding it.
>>675438678
i dont think any of the 'photos' posted contain much of this information yo speak of.
are you running out of steam yet?
what is it you are able to understand that i am not?
>>675438627
What is your point again? Cba to read through your shity posts.
>>675438869
What a surprise. End of.
>>675438678
science is faith on this level mate. think about it.
you have not been to space, u did not take these pictures.. all you have at this point is your faith I'm afraid. you have just mistakenly accepted it as science unfortunately.. whoops
>>675438927
Tell me your point if you even have one.
>>675432173
>image from equipment of higher sensory perception than humans
>all I can find is cgi
Jack Nicholson.tiff
>>675438766
I'm not the same person you were arguing with.
Also, photos contain a plethora of information, you're just not looking. Additionally, if you're looking for more legitimate pictures of earth, follow some astronauts on social media. You will see about all you'll want of earth.
>>675439124
what information have you been able to deduct from 'looking' at them please.. very interested to know.
i will take your advice on the later though thanks, sounds interesting.
>>675438953
>science is faith on this level mate. think about it.
Er, no.
you are scientifically illiterate. you do not understand what science is. you are therefore equating it with something entirely different to what it is, because you are illiterate.
Sorry. You do not understand what this subject is. Until you actually study the subject, you have no frame of reference for what it is.
>>675434940
uhm.. okay?
>>675438539
Oh so if you accept that reality does in fact exist, but you refute that NASA has not taken photographs from space, then I am sorry and please do not take this the wrong way but you are fucking ignorant. You refuse to accept basic grade school physics and cannot fathom how 100s of billions can be spent on satellite networks and functioning space ships.
I am not insulting you from spite. I am doing it because the most logical course of action in life is to recognize something for what it is and call that thing by its true name.
You are a fucking idiot, in so many ways. Pull your head out of your ass.
>>675439252
I'll be honest, I don't know what you're arguing. I just know you have been trying to deny that photos from space aren't real.
>>675438347
from what i can read in the comment messy reply chains, you're kind of right, there is no logical steps to follow which will arrive at the conclusion that you are 100% wrong, people here are just spouting ad hominems rather than at least entertaining an idea or simply ignoring it , however all scientific knowledge accumulated through various authors independently and held up to scrutiny of fellow researchers who would literally get ahead through grants or acknowledgement by calling you out, currently disagrees with you and when the alternative is some elite society controlling all scientists in over 200 countries displacing facts for some nefarious yet unknown reason with no visible profiting or advantage, its time for occams razor
>>675439286
hmmm you didn't say anything there did you
just implied i am scientifically illiterate which you have no proof of..
i understood your point perfectly well
a hell a lot of science need to get a rocket into space etc but you seemed to have missed/avoided my point spectacularly. GG
>>675432173
>I know what to do
>make tread
>ask for REAL pics
>react to every pic with "FAKE!!!"
>...
>wathch the mayhem
How original of you, OP
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/live-iss-stream
>>675439393
>held up to scrutiny of fellow researchers who would literally get ahead through grants or acknowledgement by calling you out
them out.
inb4; fruedian slip
>>675438982
He has no point. Just cant into reality and wants to drag the rest of us down too. Poor bastard just cant understand being a part of humanity. More power to him I guess.
>>675439349
Sorry, read back what you just wrote a few times. how does that make any sense?
i am alive in reality right now so are you
this is obvious
how the fuck are you trying to compare this with the legitimacy of some photos?????
how?
>>675439357
no didn't say that either. u guys are just too defensive. i said you dont know they are real so stop saying you do
>for the 5th time
>>675434039
>"Why is there never any real video of the Earth spinning, only stills?"
>mfw
>>675439625
Oh that's it? Sorry, I wouldn't have wasted my time talking about it, I didn't realize you were and angsty 13 year old that just found out nothing is real, all things are permitted.
5edgy7me
>>675439710
apology accepted. now fuck off
>>675439286
Actually to some extent he is right Anon.
Science is about what we observe and can prove. Theory is about what we suspect to be true.
If you did not observe it you are taking on faith the claims of those who did.
Note I do not disagree with Astronaught they are still around and can be questioned.
I do how ever debate Evolution in as much as I do not believe mankind evolved from single cell organisms. Not that I could not one day be convinced, but right now I simply say Science calls Evolution a Theory which makes it a best guess. Verses Rocket Science which is currently going on and is proven every day.
I certainly would debate big bang theory, string theory and many other guesses at what is actually happening out there in that great big universe...
Many men tell me things which I doubt. Others prove what they say beyond all doubt.
So I am Pro Space flight and Pro Observable Science. Anti - Theory of HUMAN Evolution.
But I have to get some sleep before work.
So feel free to reply I will read it later.
G'night.
>>675439579
Because if you start from first principles and follow the chain then you can trace the path out yourself.
>Greeks
>Newton
>Von Braun
>NASA
>Satellite pictures
Tell me where you got lost and I will explain that step to you. Its an unbroken chain of human thought culminating of humans (including myself, personally) building fucking spaceships. Ridiculous? yes. Real? 100%
>>675438766
>i dont think any of the 'photos' posted contain much of this information yo speak of.
here you go then. An image (see pic), with the following information from NASA:
>View of the Earth as seen by the Apollo 17 crew traveling toward the moon. This translunar coast photograph extends from the Mediterranean Sea area to the Antarctica south polar ice cap. This is the first time the Apollo trajectory made it possible to photograph the south polar ice cap. Note the heavy cloud cover in the Southern Hemisphere. Almost the entire coastline of Africa is clearly visible. The Arabian Peninsula can be seen at the northeastern edge of Africa. The large island off the coast of Africa is the Malagasy Republic. The Asian mainland is on the horizon toward the northeast.
>Metadata
>Data Date: December 7, 1972
>Visualization Date: January 31, 2001
>Sensor(s): Photograph
From a quick check on Apollo 17's command module cameras from the Lunar and Planetary Institute: lpi.usra.edu/lunar/missions/apollo/apollo_17/photography/
>Various tasks were also accomplished using four command module cameras: a 70-millimeter Hasselblad electric camera, a 16-millimeter Maurer DAC, a 35-millimeter Nikon, and a Westinghouse color TV camera.
We know this was a still, so its not the 16mm DAC, or the Westinghouse.
Therefore, we have from this data, the knowledge that this image was taken using either a 35mm Nikon, or a 70mm Hassleblad, on Kodak film stock (the standard stock for all NASA missions then). it was taken on december 7th '72, and digitised from the negative on January 31st 2001, into the JPG format seen on this image, today.
There's the information you demand.
>>675435633
For every problem, there is a solution.
>>675439851
> Anti - Theory of HUMAN Evolution.
yup, you're also scientifically illiterate.
>>675439857
excellent find thank you.
but whats your point?
that you have access to google?
what is your point?
>>675440011
Sooo, did you JUST beat Assassin's Creed 4?
>>675437263
around where was this photo taken?
>>675435990
The further you get, the more noticable gravity from other object will came into account. There is some point where it will be unrealisticly hard.
>>675440073
i dont play vidja
although i really want to try MGS 5 TPP
looks dope
how about you, did you have nothing to say so tried a funny insult? you did didn't you. cute
>>675440183
Does the term "inverse square" mean anything to you?
any one else care to prove that photo is real?
or is it just insults from here on out
>>675440197
now who's resorting to ad hominem?
>>675440300
I'm still here. waiting on
>>675439856
if you're done picking on the easy targets. Or did you suddenly decide that I'm not "real" too?
>>675440404
>except thats exactly what just happened
>>675439973
No I am actually quite correct.
Look up the word theory, it is not synonomous with FACT..
We do not even know what color the skin of various dinosaurs were. No one can prove that all life on Earth evolved. It is that simple.
No one observed it. And they admit we are simply guessing at what occurred.
Most take it on faith that the information we have is accurate. Perhaps you better go to a few museaums and find out what percentage of the skeltons you view are actually fossils and how much are polymers and clay that various scientist have cobbled together into best guesses of what any particular dinosaur looked like much less what color they may have been.
the·o·ry
ˈTHēərē/
noun
noun: theory; plural noun: theories
a supposition or a system of ideas intended to explain something, especially one based on general principles independent of the thing to be explained.
"Darwin's theory of evolution"
synonyms: hypothesis, thesis, conjecture, supposition, speculation, postulation, postulate, proposition, premise, surmise, assumption, presupposition;
Pay close attention to those synonyms anon.
Of course if Science would like to relabel it the "LAW of Evolution" I am OK with that. We can have a much better argument then because I can then call them outright liars.
>>675440483
prove the photo is real
i never once said that no one has been to space
or that the history of science is a lie
like i have said probably ten times now
you can't prove it, you believe it
at no point have you stepped in on this point
you have been hiding away
>>675440291
How does that not prove his point?
>>675440011
>but whats your point?
>that you have access to google?
>what is your point?
the point is, that the facts are out there, for anyone with half a working brain cell to find.
screaming "sheep" when someone posts a picture, or claiming "there's no proof" or all that shit is simply that: shit.
the facts are there. it simply requires the scientific literacy to search for the data to corroborate the image with further data. A photograph of a petri dish is meaningless. a photo of a petri dish with the data in the form of what's in it, when it was taken, where the samples from, is proof you have cancer. or TB, or bubonic plague, or whatever.
This is called the scientific method - collecting data, and citing the sources used.
And if people do not understand that, then all the evidence in the world is worthless to them, because they do not comprehend what information they need to get.
>>675440300
here's one thing to think about; russia has the technology to rival the US for over 50 years, especially during the cold war era, where the age of space exploration was a proxy for a dick measuring competition, where russia arguabley had the better technology, if there was even the slightest sign of the US faking shit, even the most miniscule amount of evidence, do you honestly think russia wouldnt have called them out on it?
>>675440533
Wow your head really is all the way up your own ass. I bet you don't even think your shit stinks.
You focused on the person instead of the content. You made a snarky judgment call in a disparaging manner. That's an ad hominem, shit for brains, and this is too.
yall niggas need to play some Kerbal Space Program
>>675440291
Nope. Sorry. I study gender studies.
>>675440773
sure this make your beliefs easier to concrete
ill give you that but they are still beliefs based on something you have read
some details about the camera do not prove that its real.
i didn't call anyone a sheep but i am claiming that what you are claiming to be proof requires a certain element of belief
i fully understand what u said though.. well written and i agree whole heartedly
i dont think u have enough data to constitute proof
ITT: Trolls Trolling Trolls
>>675435057
Professor Ug
>>675440842
that ones old dude. sure its all possible yes..
im not hear to argue that. also thats not very scientific... theres is a huge element of chance involved and you have not included all the variables
>>675437352
YES!
This is EXACTLY why there's a 50/50 chance of winning the lottery: you either lose or win. 50/50!
>>675435430
I made a cake the other day. I followed a recipe I found on the internet, but when it was finished I opted to spread some different flavoured icing on top. Does that mean it is no longer a cake, because I changed the recipe slightly to make it more palatable?
This is what you're trying to argue.
>>675436325
I took the picture.
>>675440744
So at what point between the satellite taking the photo and the photo being posted in this thread do you believe that it lost the quality "real"?
Also you are guilty as fuck of changing the goalposts in this entire thread. You haven't once made a concrete argument.
>>675440957
please get back on subject anon. we are not hear to be salty towards one another
i was only returning the slander
>>675434908
Quoting a dirty arab DJ or "rapper" on 4 chan
>lowclassnigger.jpeg
>>675441172
like what variables, per chance?
>>675441268
10/10
this guy gets it
>>675436108
I think you have evolution confused with sheltered societal behavior
>>675435745
1. scroll down to the bottom
2. pick Yotsuba B as style
3. enjoy this thread with enhanced hue
>>675435447
People have known the world to be a sphere since the 6th century BC. The whole idea that the Earth is flat came up during the Enlightenment period as a way of looking back on history and feeling superior.
It was literally a 'those people in the past were so stupid, they even believed the Earth was flat!' thing. Whoever came up with it must be rolling in their grave right now.
>>675441284
He didn't slander you. He asked a question. Also since you have such a problem with these concepts, might I suggest that playing that game he mentioned might be a good way to learn more about what you struggle with.
>>675441276
no i have maintained my argument well as it is a simple one. i dont know how u came to that conclusion, possibly because people get outraged when some one questions there belief systems.
at what point can u personally prove that the satellite took the photo first of all..
once again my argument is - you can't so stop saying you can.
>for the 15th time
>>675441218
Wut?
>>675435775
Could you kindly prove that norway exists?
>>675441350
are you honestly suggesting that there won't be variables involved in a global conspiracy ?
>>675441350
Not that Anon.
But think Conspiracy.
If it is profitable to Some few men to create a conflict between the USA and Russia would they do so? Would that be a true conflict or just enough of one to keep folks laboring to support what ever conflict they created?
Question can the Earth support feeding all of Humanity? Why doesn't it?
Is it the inability to grow enough food for all people or is it that to do so would not be profitable?
>>675436763
>the earth is the observer
>we are the apocalypse
>>675441517
ok mate. your done. thanks for your input in the begging. sorry you lost your way.
>>675437352
Not even close to 50/50. Last I read there was a close to 7% chance of any mutation not being harmful to the creature, with a much lower chance of it being beneficial. It's just that, in the vast majority of cases, even harmful mutations don't cause death or even anything particularly worrying.
>>675441604
why on earth would that help?
dont u dare say because how do u know it exits then? thats shits retarded
we are taking about the validity of an image not about a place that we all no exists
>>675441533
>I couldn't give a fuck about my belief systems
Also, at what point can't u personally prove that the satellite took the photo first of all..?
Prove a path out of your echo chamber exists or it is fundamentally impossible for this argument to progress.
>>675441614
No. Its all perfectly resonable:
1. Pick a guy to let himsel burn to death for claiming that earth is not flat.
2. Fake every traveling arount the globe... i mean desk for a few hundred centuries.
3. Force every single civilised science facility, plane pilot, and civilised country education to coop with you.
4. ????
5. No profit. Only lulz.
>>675441172
im not really arguing here though you said gimme a point that isnt just attacking your character, i gave you one, the photos are consistent with my scientific understanding, however i can accept the idea that nothing is certain, however for everyday life and the sake of functionality i apply occam's razor as i believe its is an established fact historically (not scientific) and disproving so requires evidence, im not sure if youre playing devils advocate, trolling or stating believes, but im not going to convince you, im just entertaining the idea, i acknowledge the variables and the fact my claim is unscentific, however please try to see it as a dot point and not some huge foolproof if a=b therefore your wrong, its not.
>>675441867
another one getting more and more annoyed
more personal and less scintific...
>>675441517
this guy was the last to get mad and fall out
im hedging my bets on you next, anon
>>675441817
How can you claim that "we all no" one thing exists (norway), but something equally abstract from your personal standpoint (space photos) is completely unphazable? You are literally insane. (not an attack, a clam observation)
>>675441882
please english a bit more and we can talk
no offence
>>675442125
You are right Anon.
I suspect you are an Internet connected Clam.
>>675441893
well said. i can respect that 100%
>>675436618
Balance is what you see as the result because of quite simple dynamics:
Too many predators->population of prey decreases to a point where not all predators survive->predator population goes down->less predators means more prey survives->more to ear for predators->predators' number get's stronger->repeat.
>>675441087
>some details about the camera do not prove that its real.
No, it provides evidence that indicates the origin.
So I have the option: Either: 1. I use my understanding, that I know that NASA goes to space, that Nikon and Hassleblad produce film cameras, and therefore a nikon or hassleblad used by NASA is likely a picture in space...
Or, I lurch onto the slippery slope of concluding that EVERYTHING IS FAKE WTFOMGBBQ SHEEP!!1one etc.
At which point, then I can safely conclude that reptilian venusians are controlling the muslim Obama while the planet nimburu is about to approach and destroy all life at the start of the Age of Aquarius, or the year of the fruitbat. But the realigning of the crystal chakras will protect me with the positive ions emanated from my Chi.
Or something.
The facts are this: the image is cited, dated, and sourced. We know the date it was taken, we even know when it was digitised. We know the film stock it was on, we know the sort of camera. We know it was on the translunar stage of apollo 17 mission, and therefore we can with more research, even work out where it was taken, and cross-reference that to positions of the sun at that time, etc, to further corroborate the data. Or, I can not see the need to start from first principles, I do not need to squat in a cave, chipping flints together to get a spark for a fire, because I can stand on the shoulders of giants, as Newton said. Therefore, I can comfortably understand that the data provided is sufficient evidence, knowing that the image is cited by an internationally-respected science body to indicate its veracity.
continued:
>>675436108
Of it was 50/50 then people would be developing new strange advantageous mutations over their life at the same rate people got cancer
>>675437880
oh jesus christ, your joking right.?!
>>675442082
answer this >>675441867
>Also, at what point can't u personally prove that the satellite took the photo first of all..?
>Prove a path out of your echo chamber exists or it is fundamentally impossible for this argument to progress.
Also that guy wasn't mad. I think your coping method for losing an argument if to simply declare that people are wrong and "fall out" when you cannot answer a rebuttal. It is an echo chamber you are in. Undisprovable argument.
>>675442125
you can go to norway
u can't go to the moment that photo was taken
i did try to warn you off that stupid stupid point but fuck. u were gonna say it anyway
we could both be in norway by this evening
we could never really no the true nature of that photo
so simple it hurts
>>675442373
ctd:
I have no need to leap to the slippery slope of paranoid delusion that everything is fake. This is because I am sufficiently educated to have seen that the fundamental principles of science used by NASA are sound. therefore, I may extrapolate that more advanced stages are equally as verifiable given sufficient resources - and the fact the soviets, who had sufficient resources to do so and every reason in the world to reveal any such duplicity on the behalf of thier arch-enemies' actions, and yet didnt cry foul at the hight of the cold war indicates its not faked, for example. Therefore, I have corroborating evidence that the advanced stages beyond my personal means of testing are valid. Therefore, I can conclude that the image is verifiable.
the alternative, quite simply, is to leap onto irrational conspiracies, and all sorts of idiocy which have no resemblance to reality, and in many cases (such as the flat earthers, as one example.) contradict the fundamental basics which I have been able to verify with the more meagre resources at my disposal.
It is, therefore, my educated reasoning, that the data contained in such a photograph is verifiable, and there is no cause to doubt its origin.
>>675437880
kek
>>675435775
What's more likely
NASA release a photo of that after years and years of build up and public spending, with hugely public launches and speeches and parades, with thousands and thousands of people employed with intimate knowledge and awareness of the operations, and the photo looks how we expect it to look and is in line with what we would do if we were in a position to take that photo
Or, after all that, it's a fake photo. Someone made it on a computer for some unknown reason (complexity penalty too)
So, obviously you can't say for certain, but that's true for fucking everything. What you do is make your best educated rational decision, so stop being a stupid faggot and accept it
>>675442373
i believe based on the information i have been told.
are they facts, are you sure?
pro tip, dont write so much if 99% of it is assumption on your part. I'm not interested in that
>>675441798
R. A. Fisher.
>>675442454
So do you not believe that the past exists? If a picture of norway was taken yesterday, is it not really real?
At what point do you make the simple leap that it does exist in the face of overwhelming evidence.
>>675442440
i disagree entirely
you are stabbing at me and avoiding the very simple point i have made a million times now..
all of you have got tired and started to resort to insults, including you.
what would you have me answer?
>>675442829
for the third time
>Prove a path out of your echo chamber exists or it is fundamentally impossible for this argument to progress.
>>675442796
your embarrassing yourself.
norway exists dude, that argument is redundant.
the photo of norway i would apply the same reasoning to the photo of earth.
it just has less ramifications if it later turns out to be fake wouldn't u agree?
stupid argument none the less
>>675438953
>>675442655
please tell me this is bait as it's really pissing me off
EXACTLY. YOU CAN'T KNOW ANYTHING FOR CERTAIN. However, I've only seen a picture of my great grandma, but I can say with pretty fucking good odds that that's where I came from.
When people say they know those photos are real, they mean they're rational people who have accepted to believe in them based on what they know, i.e. in this case VERY VERY FUCKING GOOD ODDS, and if it wasn't true, then there has to be the alternative: what's that? Is that more likely to be true? What other thing should I accept? Any alternative you put forward has to be more likely than the NASA story, so go on, tell me.
>>675442485
cool man, all good. glad to hear it
i still dont know weather that photo is real or not
>>675435057
you do know that machu pichu cannot be dated and its a feat that cannot be replicated .... with the tech now whats to say that their science isnt betten ours??? im confused if people had build pyramids in a time they believed that the world was flat ... and we ourselves cannot recreate the pyramids i think their science was 10 times more reliable then ours now just saying
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_loUDS4c3Cs
13 minutes to educate people on how things worked back when we landed on the moon.
People forget the original live action filming of the moon landing weren't fucking 5 minute clips.
>>675443029
>implying you and everyone you know wasn't magic'ed into existence 5 seconds ago with all your current memories
>>675442532
>why dont you stop being a faggot
>why dont you accept it
>accept
lost. although yes i would have to agree the former is much more likely.
>>675437402
>>675436242
That could be the flat Earth.....From above.
Yagetme?
>>675442922
yeah, prove its real fucker and the echo's shall cease
>>675437839
you cant see such small objects on moon with the telescopes from earth. they have limited resolution
>>675443237
The world is destroyed and recreated every instant so for all intents and purposes you are a completely new person at every point during your lifetime. On the plus side, this means that the proper response to everything is pleasant surprise.
>>675442994
So its just a shade of difference in risk levels between assuming something is real vs another thing? And a rational person evaluates these levels before acting in the real world?
There! I have led you by degrees to the truth you have been seeking.
>>675443352
No, you can't see them with store bought telescopes.
The Palamoar telescope has a bit higher resolution than your home bought ones.
>>675443029
your great granny sounds a nice old bird.
but thats just as dumb as the norway argument.
accept what you like mate and so will I.
acceptance is a weakness in this case.
>>675435570
I wanted to post a picture taken from Mars but don't have it on this computer. OP is fag
>>675443504
er.. fraid not
>>675436242
I might be a fucking retard but holy shit.
Am I the only one that thinks that is horrifying?
>>675432173
You can download ISIS onLive at the Playstore, it's a live camera on ISIS that show the earth.
>>675443430
sounds dumb but we know so little about consciousness it could be true, are you the same you that experience that memory 5 seconds ago? when you go to bed at night does
interrupting that consciousness affect you? are you the same person when you wake up, we could be "dieing" everything we go to bed with a new conscious inheriting our memories
>>675443332
You're the one arguing against the mainstream claim. Given the preponderance of evidence (such as Erastothenes' shadow, the equations of thermodynamics, photos having been taken and the inability to see certain constellations at different latitudes) you're the one who has to prove his hypothesis.
That said, if you do manage to prove it you would become one of the most famous and celebrated scientists in the world. You'd have overthrown the entirety of modern astrophysics in doing so and disproven people like Einstein, Newton and Hawking. You'd be heralded as a genius. So why don't you?
>>675443799
Welcome to Philosophy 101. Also, it was a joke.
>>675443815
because I'm a brick layer from south London
>>675443122
>you do know that machu pichu cannot be dated
"Citation needed"
Most archaeologists believe that Machu Picchu was built as an estate for the Inca emperor Pachacuti (1438–1472).
We may not have its exact year, but we know what century it was built in, if not decade.
> and its a feat that cannot be replicated ....
Again, "citation needed". There's nothing preventing its construction.
>with the tech now whats to say that their science isnt betten ours??? im confused if people had build pyramids in a time they believed that the world was flat ... and we ourselves cannot recreate the pyramids i think their science was 10 times more reliable then ours now just saying
... you're a fucking moron, you know that? You are profoundly illiterate in science, and history. You have little understanding of these subjects, yet make absurd statements like "and we ourselves cannot recreate the pyramids" as if they're some impossible object.
They're not. Want to know what prevents the construction of a pyramid today? Money. give me 20 billion dollars, and I could build a pyramid, using nothing but egyptian age tech, and 10,000 workers. We know fine well how that was done. We know how Stonehenge was built. We know how machu picchu was made. You are entirely ignorant on the subjects of archaeology.
>>675443527
but not enough to see objects of a size of a reflector.
>>675443701
Go in peace and accept the world anon. Evaluate and act as you see fit for your own best judgement. Those photos, do in fact, really really exist.
>>675439851
A hypothesis is something we suspect and if it has been proven in different ways and the foundation of proof is trock solid, then it becomes a theory. A theory then is a model of reality. We know models are not and can not be perfect, but we're improving them. I wouldn't know of a theory that has undergone the scientific process and has been disproven, it's really only details that are changed due to better measuring. Also the number of scientific theories may be way lower than you thing it is.
Evolution is a theory.
Gravity is a theory.
String theory for example is NOT a scientific theory (it's really due to Ameritards getting the term 'theory' wrong), it's a hypothesis.
What would someone need to prove to you that evolution happened? You said you believe in rocket science, because it is proven everyday, HOWEVER rocket science consists of a number of fields in wich there are theories (actual scientific theories, not string 'theory' faith) that have a LESS good foundation than evolution has.
You probably (assuming here) say gravity is real because you can verify it by dropping a ball and, it will always fall down onto earth.
Now dropping a ball is about as much a proof of gravity than micro evolution (which is a creationist term, it's really just called evolution) is of evolution.
We could thing of thousands of possible models which would produce the outcome of the ball hitting earth (including a flat earth), but wouldn't hold up to all the other components we have found to proof gravity. The point is, the human capability of observing is just not enough to proof a theory. And that includes evolution.
"Micro" evolution is the ball-drop equivalent to evolution. It's a tiny small portion of what we can observe and then there's SO MUCH MORE evidence we've found to validate evolution as a theory, the most important ones being the fossil record and the discovery of DNA and the ways it works.
(comment too long, hope the point came across.
>>675443815
further more because i am not arguing against it
i am arguing against you who is so adamantly arguing for it
big big difference
>>675443958
are you sure? ;)
nice talking with y'all. enjoy your days b/ros
>>675443122
Who the hell says we couldn't build the pyramids if we wanted to? That's the dumbest thing I've read all week.
It would be expensive as all hell but you bet your ass we could build hundreds of pyramids if we wanted to.
>>675443907
>>675443815
>>675443907
>because I'm a brick layer from south London
and if you proved these daft claims, and wiped away all the errors from newton, etc, you would be instant Nobel Prize winning material. The nobel prize would make you a millionaire overnight.
Hardly an excuse, is it? So, why arent you proving that the world is flat, that gravity doesnt exist, that the sun revolves around the earth, or one of the hundreds of other pseudoscience claims that have no bearing in reality? Dont you want to be heralded as the greatest mind in science, who brought a golden age of knowledge forth? Instead, why would someone be content to simply make their claims in anonymous web-boards on the internet?
>>675444131
Sure as sunshine.
Have a great night or day anon! Pleasure quibbling with you :)
>>675444240
>Instead, why would someone be content to simply make their claims in anonymous web-boards on the internet?
Conspiracy. Jews won't let him. Because reasons.
>>675444240
i actually like laying bricks.
also incase you hadn't noticed i have proved my 'daft claim'
you helped me do it anon, u should know!
>>675444442
you can dress me personally, its ok. I'm a nice guy.
its important that you know this... not to me now that i think of it, but its always fun to talk.
>>675441817
So how do you know norway exists? Or Europe? Or Africa? You have looked at MAPS. Fucking MAPS that are actually COMPLETELY drawn. You wouldn't take a photograph as good enough evidence (which is fine, I wouldn't either) but then you have blind faith in a drawing?
>thats shits retarded
we are taking about the validity of an image not about a place that we all no exists
Well, we all know that the earth looks exactly like in the image, soo...
>>675442454
>you can go to norway
HOW WOULD YOU KNOW?
>>675435990
there is still the sun, go too far out and you are in an orbit around the sun not around the earth.
>>675444844
wow. new levels here guys
new levels i never new were possible
>>675444889
try again
>>675434607
The only thing NASA did to the image was rotate it 180.
>>675437031
its not 50/50. but a simple example would be a mutation causing a type of moths I belive to become black instead of white in the 18 century. they are often found on birch trees wich were often stained black due to the soot from neaby factories etc..
Sage
>>675445065
>this photo isn't real because proof to me that the place is like in the photo kekkedikek
>oh norway is real because people, maps and photographs told me so checkmate /b/tards
>>675445216
It reduces to 50/50 by cumulative selection.
>>675444043
Arbitrary skepticism is unbecoming of you, anon. It's good to have doubts about what you read. Skepticism is the heart of the scientific method. It's just that there has to be a point where you accept the proof laid out in front of you as good enough, otherwise it's not skepticism, it's faith, and there's no way to argue against that.
There's no way to absolutely 100% prove anything in this universe, which is why even our most thought out and 'proven' theories are just highly educated guesses. Trying to prove something absolutely is the realm of philosophy more than science.
So if you really want strong proof of a spherical Earth, go read some scientific journals. Repeat experiments that others have done to see if they work. Head up to John o'Groats and measure the shadows on the solstice, then drive down to Land's End and do the same the day after. You can fairly accurately estimate the circumference of the planet if you take measurements, too.
Flat Earthers say they want us to prove them wrong using science, but that's not how science works. We've got our theories and they fit the evidence/experiments better than anything else, and the best part is that you could replicate them yourself if you put the time and effort in to doing so. So given that there is already 'proof' out there for our argument, the onus is on the Flat Earthers to debunk them.
>>675443567
Right well I'm happy now anyway, that was a shit answer and you made it too obvious it was bait
>>675445296
you should go away tbh
>>675445400
that point is obviously reached quickly by some
far to quickly by other and possible not at all by the rest....
reminder - you dont need to accept it
there is no point where you 'have' to accept it
and if something is so black and white that no acceptance is needed, well, then theres that too.
ps. im not a flat earther
>>675445440
hide under your b8 if you like son
>>675440087
6 billion kilometres from Earth, on February 14, 1990, by Voyager 1. Carl Sagan requested the probe be tasked with taking the picture, as its mission had ended and it was on its way out of the solar system.
>>675437388
You most certainly can take a picture of Earth from Earth. It's just not going to look anything like the photos from the Moon because you're too damn close to the surface.
>>675445954
I'm sorry but this is faith 101 right here
>>675443945
That's what the laser is for.
>>675437585
Great photograph!
REKT
>>675446197
yes but you misinformed people in your post i replied to that you can see the reflector from observatories on earth
>>675446546
Thanks bro. its 100% rell so stick that up your flat arse
>>675432173
good thread OP
space fags hella quiet all of a sudden.
>>675444039
I consider Gravity to be a law,
There IS sufficient evidence IMHO to support Planetary movements etc.
I consider Evolution a Theory.
Because the evidence you propose is simply NOT there. As I said when IO go looking for those mid evolution creatures I don't find them.
The Sea Creatures that evolved to walk on land?
I know most like to say that Evolution does NOT claim men descended from Apes but that depend on which book you read and which men you ask. I think that is simply a guess and it is wrong. I accept adaptation. Rabbits ears getting longer or shorter color changes due to environment or climate. Certainly.
But no fruit flys have become beetles or birds or have Evolved in to anything other than fruit flys.
The Platypus utterly baffles me.
I am not a young Earth creationist. I think the evidence supports that the Earth is millions or billions of years old. I just don't think mankind evolved from Neanderthal etc.
I also have done enough study to realize that while organized religion is mostly full of shit. God is not. I don't think he created the universe in 7 days. And when Properly translated the books of the People of Abraham do not say so either. But now I am really derailing this thread.
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Science certainly is working its way towards the truth. But they need to accept that many of us are ignorant, and some of us are stubborn.
If you want to fly us to the Moon or to Mars feel free. If you want to grow enough food to feed everyone feel free.
If you want to prove God is not our Creator FUCK OFF. Certainly feel free to correct the misinformation in the books of the people of Abraham. Just don't try top sweep it all away because "Evolution".
Religion still stands in the way of a lot of Progress. So take it out on the liars in the funny hats not on God.
The truth lies some where in between what those "holy" books say and what Science is discovering every day.
I try to be reasonable.
But some folks just have to mock my faith rather then just moving forward and doing what really needs to be done.
