AMA ATM Tech edition
I fix em I build em I know the ins and outs of the industry and cash banking in general. Ask me anything
Things I cant talk about:
>Who I work for
>Who my clients are
>Specifcs on the internals and the programing of the machines
>>675395592
Is it programmed in HTML?
Have you fucked a fat girl?
are you armed
>>675395703
HoldsTheMoneyLanguage
>>675395703
no
>>675395767
yes
>>675395823
yes but not by my company
>>675395823
Yes, I have two arms
>>675395592
Stupidest thing you've had to fix?
>>675395592
They operate on Linux or Unix? What's the language? They blue tooth compatible?
>>675395888
hearty chuckle
>>675395592
what could someone in your position do if they wanted to steal a lot of money?
>>675395592
How often do you find skimmers installed on your machines?
Followup 1: how many cards go through a machine on an average day?
Followup 2: how long does an ATM go without service?
>>675395990
someone let their kid put a sucker in the check depositor. was disgusting trying to clean it out
>>675396040
Haha a lot of them are still on Windows 2000. Some even still run OS/2
Why they still run Windows 98?
>>675396201
Language? Bluetooth?
>>675396183
Fucking yuck, any of the cheques get ruined?
How do you interface with the machine software?
what's the easiest way to break into one?
>>675396303
they have a headphone jack bluetooth would be fucking retarded
>>675396381
by making sweet, sweet love to it.
>>675396175
OP?
>>675396303
It uses a USB cable. I'll show you later.
>>675396624
>>675396475
Conflicting answers.
Another person that makes these and other kiosks reporting in.
>>675396175
>>675396579
OP my man?
>>675396040
cant say/cant say/ some yes but only on the customer side not for actual diagnostics or testing, most banks are turning away from
>>675396130
couldnt get away with it unless you immediately bailed to country that wouldnt extradite you but the machines dont hold enough cash to make it worth it and the internal security measure are able to detect theft even from someone who has direct access
>>675396175
I've found 3 in 5 years, the machines can detect the most common types and will actually shut down upon detection, if i find them they are either destroyed on site or turned over to the police/fed depending on what they want
1: depends on the location of the machine I work out of chicago which can see upwards of 30,000 a month
2: within a half hour of the machine reporting a problem
What are your thoughts on aptra? Personally, I think it's pure shit.
>>675396381
directly, we just switch modes on it and run diagnostics software
>>675397339
yea its shit, i would rather use windows embeded
Is it possible to just get into BIOS make the machine spit out money?
Is there a way to make ATMs spit out money?
Is there a way to quickly dismantle an ATM and take the money out?
>>675397339
I dont use it, no opinon
>>675396579
>>675397016
jesus bro it's been a few minutes. relax
>>675395592
what's a surprising fact about atms or your field in general, that many anons here don't know
>>675397139
Thanks
>I've found 3 in 5 years
That's pretty damn low
>the machines can detect the most common types
How do they detect them?
>>675395703
i hope this was a joke
>>675395592
over the past several months the usbank atms right around me have slowed to a crawl. i know they run on, or at least used to run on xp from previous crash screens
several of the ones i use regularly have gotten so laggy its hard to use almost.
they did recently add those automatic check readers and added 10 and 50 $ bills to their output logic.
do you know why this may be? ive been joking and telling my gf that they are infected with coin mining shit.
>>675397614
atms are gay, i love working on them because i feel like superman some atm cult
>>675395703
If I had to guess, COBOL.
>>675397525
no, bios doesnt interface with the internal devices
no, because that would be a fucking stupid security risk
no, see answer above
>>675397680
the banks will hire some private investigators to go around and check their atms for bugs and stuff like that
>>675397596
Sorry. You had answered questions under mine. Thought you might have skipped me because it was shit you couldn't talk about, or something.
>>675397525
yes hack the eprom so you can remotely take control of the atm cassette.
easier to hack it then bruteforce the money out
>>675397843
Huh, that seems insecure.
>>675397806
There has to be a way though. If the machine is designed to spit out money based upon a series of correct actions, there's got to be a way to get the computer to replicate the mechanical function of spitting money out.
>>675395592
how much do you make?
>>675397525
Cant say
Yes
Yes
>>675395592
Have you ever done this?
http://frtyb.com/go/eTGf3_bAaEj/Omegkle
>>675395592
Tell us some stuff that isn't publicly known. I'm legitimately intrigued.
>>675397614
Dispite what many may think no atm tech in their right mind would steal from an atm, that pretty much a guaranteed way to make sure you never work in a field that involves money ever again because the feds get involved, so when people talk to us and say "damn id be to tempted to steal from it" we think youre fucking retarded because we dont want to end up in jail and then homeless
>>675398117
after taxes about 29k a year usd. on call 24/7
>>675398118
If someone had the right knowledge, I could see someone making an easy six figures a year just traveling the country and exploiting ATMs. Do you have any thoughts on this?
What happens if I put my dick inside it?
>>675398279
Wow... That fucking sucks.
>>675398213
atms run on windows, they use cell networks, they have time bombs planted, they can be remote detonated, they have wifi sniffers to track customers
>>675395592
I heard in Canada if you put your pin in backwards...
Ex, 1234 normally, put in as 4321
That the police are alerted?
>>675395592
If you can't get at all specific on the internals/programming of them, then what the fuck good are you right now?
Are you praying we'll ask you for some retarded greentext adventures? Fuck off shithead.
Deliver or you're a faggot, it's that simple.
>>675398378
nothing, the money door will snip your dick off.
how many could you get into before you got caught?
what's the cheat code for free money?
>>675398348
this
>>675397680
>How do they detect them?
PI's inspect them from time to time there are also sensors that detect everything from weight on the card readers to ambient signals. these devices (Independant and self contained) arent touched by us and we are told the second we tamper with them we are out the door
>>675398477
No, thats urban myth. Imagine if your code was 1221.
>>675398476
>time bombs
kek
>>675395592
how to get money for free from atm?
>>675398555
alright here are the schematics to the most popular altel atm. you can only obtain this if you're in the hardware department in their europe office.
>>675397726
any time denominations are changed its usually by the request of the client because they see what the tellers are being asked for so they change the machine to match
>>675398690
Perhaps they don't give out palindrome pins?
>>675398886
You choose your own PIN when you get a bank account. What are you, 12?
>>675398595
exactly 5 if you use Bertrand's postulate and apply it to the time it takes to hack an eprom chip in the mainframe
>>675398742
easy, dial the atms phone number and enter the admin passcode. finding the phone number is the hardest part. the passcode is usually 12345 or 54321
>>675397973
>>675398108
nope the main computers firmware is independent of internal device firmware. you have to have direct access to the internal devices to make them perform, at which point making it spit money out is kinda pointless because youre inside the vault
>>675395592
Are there any gps devices AT ALL in or on the atms?
>>675398117
i make around 37k after taxes with this job but supplement my income with other hobbies
>>675399270
what if i cum all over the mainframe and dial in my hacker grandma to lick it all up, then will that work?
>>675399347
yea but they are actually not for tracking the atm, they are to help amplify gps signals to help widen the signal
>>675399186
I find this hard to believe good sir.
>>675398567
Well you're a pretty shitty technician if you can't make it so I can put my dick inside it
>>675398477
no the easiest way to get the police to an atm is to call them or hit the machine with your car
>>675398742
have someone else give you the money then it didnt cost you anything?
>>675399186
wat?
>>675399347
in some yes but some customers (meaning banks) choose not to add them
>>675398378
you loose your dick and I have to clean the machine
>>675400379
your madness knows no bounds good sir i'm free from atm money
>>675398555
>you need to give me specifics that will get you fired
fuck you
>>675398555
>you need to give me specifics that will get you fired and possibly arrested
fuck you
>>675398555
>you need to give me specifics that will get you fired and possibly arrested and anally penetrated in prison
fuck you
>>675398348
OP !
>>675395592
Debold or NCR?
How can i get free money
>>675398607
↑ ↑ ↓ ↓ ← → ← → B A START
>>675402163
neither
>>675402138
youre better off going old school and duplicating cards and pins, adding hardware to a machine wont work for the vast majority of skimmers you can buy because the machine will detect them. Austrailia had a problem with this a few years back which is why they isolate the devices better now
>>675400793
Nice try, OP. But you already showed us the way to free money.
See
>>675395592
The money in the screen, duh. Someone pulled a decent heist.
>>675395592
Wow so nothing that can make us money! Finally what I've been waiting for a lecture on the inner workings of a machine that dispense money, and no mention of how to rig or exploit these machines! Yes!!!! My prayers to allah Jesus and the Buddha have been answered!!!! Hey OP go fuck yourself.
>>675403127
yeah that kind of shit happens all the time when fags like >>675403132 go full trigger and get pissed at the machine.
>>675403132
guess what, its a machine that people have been trying to exploit for 40 some odd years, banks dont like it when you fuck with their money so they make it difficult. Wanna rob and atm? get an industrial grinder spend about 30 minutes cutting the vault door off hope the cops dont show up while youre doing this and bam theres your money
>>675403132
watch those edges son
where are the cameras on most of the machine?
In terminator 2 John Connor was able to hack a machine to spit out cash? would anything like this work in IRL?
>pic related
>>675397775
Most likely it is C. Why the fuck would they use COBOL?
>>675404846
if it happened in terminator, it must be realistic
>>675397806
You realize that is absolutely wrong... The BIOS is literally the binding for all input and output on a system.
>>675404846
cameras are usually at eye level on the screens and in the surrounding walls. some machines have them pointed at the intake areas of the machines esp. for checks.
the john connor device wouldnt have even work back then due to the obstruction sensor. in the card reader those sensors arent for skimming though it wouldve simply told the machine the card was jammed and spit it back out
>>675405286
yep, they are real.
>>675405415
there are multiple sets of firmware on atms, one talks to the other but the bios can not command the other internals to do anything
would an ATM kill you if this happened ?
>>675405956
quite possibly yes depending on the vault weight. our lightest units weigh in the 500lb range but there are lighter units out there
will doing this get me money?
>pic related
>>675406371
we've already addressed this
I saw the post about the sucker, but what is the stupiest way somebody has tried to rip off an atm?
Do you think cahs will become outdated? Have you seen a decline in atm use since the beginning of your career?
>>675405875
The thing is an absolute physical compromise of a system to the BIOS level would mean cross communication between the two systems could be intercepted. Unless between those systems there is another type of middle man or something? Like a virtual man-trap? APT it and wait?
>>675395592
how many Ass To Mouth jokes per day with friends and coworkers?
>>675406494
the stupidest way there are 2 answers to that one, we've had people try and hit them with cars which is hit or miss and depending on the size of your car youll end up totaling it (which ive had to deal with) to someone walking up on a tech who was in a vault (see the post about us being armed)
>Do you think cahs will become outdated? Have you seen a decline in atm use since the beginning of your career?
Honestly no if anything with our society becoming more tech oriented atm use has increased. no one wants to talk to a person unless theres a problem and with customers becoming more tech friendly theyll be willing to perform more actions on the machines (Chase for instance now allows you to make payments to things from them if the account is linked)
>>675403132
He never implied in the OP he was going to tell you how to rip off an ATM, autists these days... smh fam
>>675407396
in this industry its constant
>>675407497
Interesting & thanks for the response...I thought that with apple pay and other things that cash would be on the decline.
I suppose it will always have a place though.
Follow-up
Do techs service more atms now than before? Are there more total in your territory?
>>675405956
I aint no skank
>>675408519
I'm responsible a total of 430 machines and it will increase over this next year but by how much I'm not sure, the orders change almost daily it seems
a better answer to your query with more and more needs of customers being met by electronic means it only makes sense for an ATM to evolve with the trend its less about the cash but cash will remain its primary attraction for now
