TFW Democratic Socialism > Capitalism
I agree anon, well done.
>>675352713
Pure capitalism, like pure socialism or any other -ism, is shit.
You need a mix. And dont pretend the US dont already have it.
Free schools? Well there you go. You arent a pure capitalistic country.
>>675352713
TFW capitalism = sadness, misery and progress
TFW anything else = sadness, misery
>>675352839
Well crafted rebuttal.
Socialism is so great thousands of Cubans float to Capitalist America on homemade boats to escape it.
>>675352968
I don't act like America doesn't have both. But it sure as hell needs more Socialism.
>>675353116
>implying Trump won't destroy America
The world is laughing at you.
>>675353080
Obvious troll deserves shitpost
>>675353027
That's why we need a mix. Capitalism creates competition and Socialism keeps everyone alive.
>>675352713
Berntards LOVE socialism...just as long add it's not THEIR pockets being picked.
>>675352713
>mfw people in the US think they know what socialism is
>thinking Bernie is socialist
>>675353337
Implying a moron with no leadership experience who want to spend $18 trillion on social programs when the whole of Americas federal budget was $3.5 trillion in 2015 wont destroy it. Sanders is why dumb ass college kids should not be allowed to vote.
>>675353459
Did it ever occur to you that lazy leeches might not deserve to be kept alive?
>>675353520
>not my pockets being picked
>implying I don't pay taxes
>implying billionaires and corporations don't use offshore accounts
>implying you even make enough to be affected by Bernie's tax plan ($250,000/year)
>defending the billionaire class
>being this much of a sheep
>>675352968
>free schools
I pay taxes motherfucker. That shit ain't free.
>>675353240
>less.
It needs less
>>675353710
>implying that closing tax loopholes wouldn't fix this issue
>implying closing tax loopholes wouldn't put us in surplus
>>675352713
TFW sage because this is cancer
>>675353719
Did it ever occur to you that most welfare recipients aren't lazy leeches? Or that thousands of veterans receive welfare? Is it worth letting millions of hardworking citizens die just so you can take petty revenge on a few bad people?
>>675353827
If you're in the lower 45% of wage earners, EVERY cent you have taken out in income taxes, you get back in your tax returns. So, fuck off.
>>675353984
You honestly think American businesses are not going to go offshore or go bankrupt when taxation jumps from 20% to 70%?
kek
People like you are why we have to put warning labels on everything.
>>675354212
Look, don't blame the people making less than you for problems that billionaires made. You're waging a war against poor people when we all should be warring against billionaires.
>>675352839
Is this an actual argument or is it just an expression of your autism?
>>675354378
LOL That last joke was so funny! XD
They don't pay their taxes anyway.
>>675352713
Dear god...fucking lazy niggers.
>>675352713
>embraces socialism
>resents that 4chan is created and owned by private parties
>image boards should be nationalized
>mfw
>>675354378
He also thinks that increasing taxation to those levels would even come close to paying for it all. You could seize all the wealth of everybody in America making over $250k per year and it would not fund Bernies government for a month.
>>675353520
Our pockets have been thoroughly picked since the 1980's you fucking faggot. Bernie's just trying to get us back some of what was taken.
>>675354524
Literally not this at all. If this were accurate, it would have a picture of a guy who just built an enormous sandcastle. And then that guy goes and helps out someone else who's having a little trouble building his sandcastle.
>>675352713
>i want free shit
>>675354578
Well crafted argument, anon.
>>675354378
You stupid fuck, you think someone else isn't going to come along and accept a slimmer profit margin? Goods will still need to be sold - some jew or chink will step in.
>>675354711
Do you dumbasses know what Democratic Socialism is?
>>675353116
get out the vote
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDLqYvcXQjU
>>675354414
Billionaires create jobs. Poor people create crime. Autistic shit bums think they're entitled to the fruit of other peoples labor.
>>675353827
>implying you even make enough to be affected by Bernie's tax plan ($250,000/year)
Where'd you get that number? Everyone would pay more taxes under Bernie. it's not limited to only those who make over $250k a year.
>>675354721
And where exactly are the facts this argument is based on? And don't come to me with some Fox News made-up bullshit.
DAILY REMINDER THAT REDDIT LOVES BERNIE
>>675354168
>Sitting in a house, never leaving, waiting for that monthly untaxed check to show up
>not a leach
Pick one
>>675354799
I pay taxes too moron.
>>675354931
The phrase Marxists use to soft pedal their totalitarianism?
>>675354808
Ha, I get it. Because you're projecting your own inadequacies.
>>675353240
>less faggotry
fixed that for you. move to a shit tier banana republic if you want more socialism.
>>675354936
And Democratic Socialism will get rid of that problem. Poor people create crime out of necessity. If they can afford food and healthcare, there won't be any lacking necessities. Which means less crime.
>>675354893
In all actuality the few who remain will just lower wages, slash hours and move towards more automation to lower costs. This only hurts American workers in the end.
>>675355242
It's funny because it's true
>>675353116
nu uh, Venezuela is making socialism work well. OP has a valid point!
>>675352839
You trump people just hate the idea of free housing and free medical and free education?
>>675353710
this. sanders entire voter base is retarded hipster college kids joining a meme because they think its cool "to be a part of change omglolz!"
>>675354931
Adding flavor to shit doesn't change the fact that it is shit.
>>675354808
the worlds leading economists lean slightly left, politically
>>675354975
Look up his tax plan.
>>675355461
You've never met any criminals.
>>675353921
thats socialism though. forcing you to pay for shit even if you dont use it
>>675354168
>gated community anon detected
>>675355099
I'm sorry, I forgot that I don't have a job. I forgot that world is black and white.
>>675355099
>Getting billions of dollars in tax breaks despite being the most profitable businesses in the world
>not a leach
Pick one
It's incredible how the rich fooled the middle class into thinking all of their problems are caused by the poor. I guess that's what happens when most of the media is owned by huge corporations.
>>675355461
>giving niggers money makes them honest
With...
FEEL THE BERN
>>675355173
>totalitarianism
>implying Trump isn't trying to become a dictator
>implying Democratic Socialism = Communism
>>675355511
>Venezuela is making socialism work well
>>675353240
This because Cuba is not bad, the soviet union was not bad, venezuela is making it work right! some of the greatest leaders in the world like 4chams favorite Hitler was socialist!
Trump people are all white losers. Black lives matter!
>>675352713
But bernie calls himself left winged!?!?!? Doesnt that automatically make him a commie from the sovjet union
>>675355242
Well crafted argument, anon.
>>675354747
dont forget the secret police who would go around checking to make sure people weren't building 'undesirable' sandcastles which could undermine the ruling party ideology
>>675354746
>saying this unironically
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>675355339
Well crafted argument, anon.
>>675355828
>>675355733
What is Boeing and the Export Import Bank, which our leftists support
>>675355461
>Poor people create crime out of necessity. If they can afford food and healthcare, there won't be any lacking necessities. Which means less crime.
Holy fuck....this has to be bait. There's no way someone can legitimately believe this.
>>675355472
And when all jobs are automated what will we do? No one will be able to work because everything will run on its own.
>>675355064
If you give it some thought you will realize that you cannot raise taxes on the wealthy because they pass it on to the consumer by raising prices. In effect you raise taxes on the 99% For some reason Democrats have yet to figure this out.
>>675355461
>won't be lacking any necessities
It does not work that way. See Venezuela for more recent examples.
>>675355824
>Implying liberals shutting down political speeches isn't more fascist than anything Trump has done.
>>675352713
I hope bernie wins so that all the black people can have everything they want because things are so unfair here, and we can get all the muslims here from all over north africa and syria. Islam is not all that bad folks!
http://dowefeelthebern.com/
You are welcome.
>>675355579
I have. When you look at unbiased sources, it paints a different picture.
>>675352713
who the fuck cares sanders America will lead to the necessity for automation pushing us closer and closer to the singularity. while anyone else will just lead America off a cliff.
>>675355986
Socialism: A Success Story
>>675355617
Except I have. I'm not saying everyone commits crime out of necessity. But when someone works two jobs, has a big family at home, and still can't afford to feed everyone, where do they have to turn?
>>675356187
Yep, no lurking variables in that example.
>>675355654
>gated community
Don't pretend you know me.
>>675352713
ACTUAL RECENT QUOTE FROM DONALD TRUMP FOUND ON CNN:
"i like to dress up as CP
not everybody thinks that its cool, but i finally met a girl who thinks im a 10/10 would bang like bam in my CP suit.
she'd come over sometimes while her boyfriend was away after school.
once the door would close she'd almost instantly get naked. most times she'd put on her favorite song and start sucking. then she would cry. her tears and makeup would drip down her face onto my dick. its surprising how cold tears are. eventually i finally asked her what was wrong. in between licks she told me that her favorite song was also her bfs favorite song. so even though she loved hearing it and it totally got her pussy wet, it also made her think about the fact that she was cheating on her boyfriend. i dont think i ever came harder down somebodies throat then right after she told me that. she was beautiful. we dont hang out anymore. wanna get lunch?
this was the song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tgwFpMA61c
>>675354808
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-mw0mb-yYA
>>675355511
I'm not sure if you're trolling so if you are well done sir.
>>675354414
The top 25% of waste earners already pay 86% of federal income taxes. Bernie wants more.
>>675356366
College would be a start. Or maybe the condom rack. Shouldn't be having kids if you're working 2 shifts at McDonald's.
>>675355740
>implying niggers are inherently evil/lazy
stereotypes r kewl!! l0l im edgy!!1!11!!1!
>>675355511
There's no such thing as free, and the state doesn't have a good history of providing quality services.
t. someone who's old enough to remember the Soviet Union
>>675356594
>Shouldn't be having kids if you're working 2 shifts at McDonald's.
this tbqh familia
>>675356366
Are you kidding? I can't tell.
I see people having babies on welfare from 15 to 35, 7 kids by 7 different fathers, never worked a fucking day in their life, and the kids sell drugs and get into gangs, and your theory is that criminals are hard workers holding down 2 jobs who can't feed their families and so turn to crime?
Holy shit, man. You gotta get out more.
>>675355809
>implying conservatards aren't fat lazy pieces of shit
>>675352968
You don't know what capitalism is if you think free public education doesn't fit with it.
>>675352713
TFW Democratic Socialism > Capitalism
black lives matter and brown skins all over the world are poor and victimized at every turn. They'll never have peace until they can have some 100% all black colleges and a few mayors are black and some fresh black TV stations that feature real hip hop and they can use this to complain heartily about the horrors of white people. And perhaps some all black magazines too. And maybe if they get some representation in congress, then maybe only then will whites take them seriously.
>>675352713
>Supporting this SJW regressive
TOP KEK
>>675355890
Wow. You're fucking stupid. I mean, really REALLY stupid.
>>675356644
Inherently violent and unintelligent, on average, yeah.
>inb4 muh outliers prove that all nogs are civilized
>>675356753
I creamed.
>>675355889
Conservative conspiratard detected.
>>675356650
well, go look how well it's working for venezuela new friend! it's awesome!
>>675355809
>all those nu-male cuckolds and lazy fatasses
Holy kek
>>675354936
>2016
>Still buying "trickle down economics"
>>675355986
>>675356721
See any fatties here? Didn't think so
>>675356924
I know, it's working great there :^)
>>675356165
But there is no necessity to do so. And we should be raising minimum wage to keep up with that.
>>675356828
I noticed that you have nothing to say other than "ur stoopid". Please gather your thoughts and present a valid point that doesn't resort to ad hominem attacks or youtube buzz words.
>>675357041
>we should increase inflation and make the poor poorer to help people be less poor
>>675357025
I could easily find a picture of a Bernie rally without fatties or a Trump rally full of em.
>>675352713
ITT: College kids who think they understand politics
>>675356986
>2016
>Still supporting Socialism even though it has ALWAYS failed.
>>675356366
Maybe start by not having big families they can't afford to feed. It's nobody else's faulty they're too stupid to pull out.
>>675356187
this.>>675356398
>>675356398
>>675356398
listen up you socialist shill
socialism is all about control and power for few people in political control. it is about controlling gullible and retarded poor people like yourself into accepting their power under the premise of equality and the promise that all will be provided for you. they then use their power to further their own wealth and advance their personal interests and those of their families. it is a giant ponzi scheme which is obviously doomed to failure and history has proven it time and again. then once the retards like you figure out they are being duped, it's too late because the government squashes all dissent and controls all communication. hence why all socialist nations have special police forces to go around investigating 'non patriotic' actions of people. you fucking faggot. go move to cuba
>>675357322
Yet the regressives are creaming over him, saying he is for them, he is not, and just wants power.
Trump 2016
>>675353921
But how much do you pay in taxes for it?
Not nearly as much as you think.
Economy of scale. There's a reason private schools are usually attended by rich kids.
>>675357319
>2016
>Not understanding the difference between socialism and democratic socialism, which works well in northern Europe
>still supporting corporatism
>>675357505
>>675352713
Don't you guys know that all the problems in the middle east is caused by white people? Even when the Pakistan Taliban entered the school and opened fire on school staff and children, killing 141 people, including 132 schoolchildren, ranging between eight and eighteen years of age - it was white peoples fault!
If it weren't for white people, 276 female students would not have been kidnapped from the Government Secondary School in the town of Chibok in Borno State by Boko Haram!
If you white cis-gendered red necks don't start loving muslims, they're going to take over the world and kill you, and it will be no one's fault but your own.
>>675356986
How many jobs have you created?
>current year
>not helping the economy
>>675357319
>when half of europe doesnt exist
>>675356828
>wow, you sure are stupid anon, how dare you disagree with me
Not much of a care is given in these threads my man
>>675356644
>Being of able body and mind
>getting handouts
>living in public housing
>got rims on that 25 year old minivan being held together by rust and weed baggies
>thinking that giving me more money will give me incentive to get off my ass and become a productive, contributing member of society
>>675356924
>>675357676
Bait?
>>675357630
>socialism implemented through democratic means
>socialism implemented through revolution
Socialism is an economic system and is consistently shown to be a failure, Sweden and the rest of Northern Europe is economically stagnant, America couldn't even hope for that outcome, etc. etc.
>>675357948
i love taking quotes out of context too
>>675357721
If you like high unemployment, and super high taxes, then yes Europe is a prime example.
>>675357630
>>675357721
Yeah, how about that Eurozone crisis/Greece, how about having shit medical-care compared to The United States, and how about having a smaller economy than us?
>Corporatism
>Implying I support socialism of any kind.
>>675357630
>tfw your Dutch
>americunt tries to convince people democratic socialism is good
>it really isn't that good
>even california is better than this shit
Your doing god's work
>>675357630
Those are Social Democracies dumbass.
>>675356721
Socialism, because no matter what your stereotype, niggers are not lazy lying stealing violent assholes- and they deserve some free shit, so they don't destroy every fucking thing you see.
>>675357630
Implying what works for sparsely populated nordic countries who are fed at the tit of the EU works in a nation with a population over 350,000,000
>>675358184
Like to see a start up like Apple once was come from Northern Europe.
>>675354936
billionaires dont create jobs. The corporations they have are made to make them more money. They provide the minimum amount of jobs and pay to keep their company running, and then the vast majority of the money goes to them and the company, not back to the workers. this is a load of bullshit
>>675353116
xD nice pic
>>675358184
like china! where citizens are free to happily visit any websites they choose and read news anywhere else in the world and shitpost 4chan about how stupid their president looks!
>>675358283
>>675358063
if ur going to use greece as an argument to socialism, i'll use saudi arabia as an argument to capitalism
>>675358051
i agree with the high unemployment rates, its a big downside of the european model, but taxes aren't that awful if they're going to places that help your country's economy, like healthcare and disease research
>>675353710
jesus you are retarded
>YOU shouldnt be allowed to vote
>sanders was mayor for many years
>only has his name and failed busineses, puts his names on buildings but doesnt actually do anything
>>675355516
>>675358512
But the Saudi's are Islamic Terrorists. so not a good comparison.
>>675358050
When he said "black lives matter" he simply meant that whites do the majority of killing of black people. It's not black on black crime. Whites are really the culprit. Blacks are docile, friendly, transparent and forethcoming. They're never violent narcisstic thugs working in packs like the white people. Go look at all the videos of "White Mob violence" online. We really need to take care of our african american friends, and show we love them as much as they love and adore us.
>>675355516
lol i love how having a college diploma has almost become an insult from trump supporters
>>675358699
not true, but i'll submit to your stereotypes and give you the example of uruguay
>>675358699
They're a theocracy politically yeah, but fairly capitalist on the economic side.
>>675358512
Saudi Arabia is economically strong, wwhat's your point?
>>675356523
>the manlets couldnt reach the top shelf
>>675357280
And economics for that matter.
>>675352839
Couldn't have said it better myself
>>675357791
You white capitalist privileged cis-gendered male asshole! That picture was taken out of context because socialism is wonderful and everyone was really happy right before a little hiccup in their socialism.
>>675358780
Please be bait
>>675358802
Getting a worthless degree has always been pathetic.
I studied something useful, unlike the social science cucks who support Bernie.
>>675358917
their government is (and is super corrupt), not their people
>>675358317
kek
Their purpose is to create money for stockholders. Most working ADULTS have investments which are tied to the market created by said corporations. When the corporations make money investors make money. Those investors are everything from plumbers to truck drivers. The dividends from their investments frees up money that would have otherwise went towards retirement accounts. That money then gets spent on things made by people who are employed by corporations who make stuff. Someday you'll grow up and understand how markets work anon.
>>675353710
How much is that wall of yours gunna cost you? Not to mention all the roads and man power to maintain it. Or the fact that a wall is not permitted on the river banks. Or how pointless it is since a ladder, rope, tunnels can beat it. it provides no help to the economy like a healthy population would. Go drink bleach kid.
>>675358367
I know and who likes google or Youtube anyway? they don't really need to see anything about the west as it is.
>>675359077
So the people aren't free, so what?
We're not talking politics, we're talking economics.
>all the butthurt mexicans in this thread
YOU ALL HAVE TO GO BACK
>>675358887
So you deny that the Saudis are responsible for Salafi Jihadism? You deny that they are the world's leading financier of Terrorism. Fuck off regressive.
>>675359071
yes because your welding degree totally makes you more of an expert on politics than those who studied social sciences.
>>675357518
if only bernie was socialist
>>675358780
>whites do the majority of killing of black people.
>>675358560
You do understand that in most New England towns Mayor is a symbolic title with no actually duties and real executive management is handled by selectmen.
>>675356254
thank you very much
>>675359168
yeah, so what if mexico costs us billions in tax payer money to keep the little anchor babies and their special mommies and daddies. You're white and cis gendered, and brown people matter!
Welcome Syrian and North African refugees, we actually love Islam, because it is a peaceful religion of tolerance that is ready for plural society.
These trump asswhites need to shut the fuck up! Us millenials know all about politiks. Aren't you ready for your free degree komrad?!!!
>>675354378
>implying the US produces anything and isn't a service based economy.
>>675359350
not denying it. denying that saudi = terrorist
i wouldn't participate in these types of argument if ur gonna call everyone a regressive if they disagree with u
>>675358802
You're degree in womens studies makes you an economic expert I'm sure.
>>675359446
Electrical engineering, actually, and political science is in fact one of the only not-shit social science degrees. Gender studies, psychology, sociology, etc. belong in the garbage along with shit like English.
>>675352713
Capitalism's great if you're the one with the money and power. For everyone else, not so much.
>>675359480
Holy shit, what an amazing infographic
>>675359697
>You're degree in womens studies
>i haz impeccables grammerz
durr
>>675359697
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminist_economics
>>675359480
Yes, like 200 years ago, it was a white massacre upon the negros. They just shipped them over here, and massacred them. I can't figure out why they just killed all those perfectly good niggers?
>>675359675
Hey genius, when people say Saudi's are terrorist, they are referring the government. But you gotta be PC about it.
>>675359764
>political science
lol no
>>675359764
>Gender studies, psychology, sociology, etc. belong in the garbage along with shit like English.
funny how people still get good paying jobs with these degrees
>>675352713
Enjoy your wasteland, hipsters.
>>675359936
so when i say americans are terrorists im referring to the government? nice one bud
>>675358560
>only has his name and failed busineses
This tells me you have no idea how business ventures work. Four bankruptcies was it? So that's four out of over 200 businesses tied to Trump dealings. And those businesses went bankrupt, not the person, so instead of throwing money at a pile of glowing embers he covered it with dirt to prevent further loss. Are you saying that shutting down a money pit that sucks up resources is bad?
>>675359764
lol you know that the social science majors you listed have like the exact same coursework as the political science major, they are all just subcategories of social sciences
>>675359887
Salty feminists never fail to deliver.
>>675359948
It's still shit, just less shit than the rest.
>>675360024
Waiting tables sure does pay well when you factor in tips.
>>675355626
it's taxation for the common good you selfish faggot
>>675359770
Socialism is great if you have no potential, but want respect, and don't mind only the government having all the wealth and power. So, there is that little thing
>>675354414
Inequality is a political agenda. People should be focusing on helping the poor, not create classwars.
>>675354746
Is this some 1% shit? Goldman Sachs and the rest only thrives because of their marriage with Government. You pay their shit and they pay the politicians and the government enforces regulations to eliminate competition. More government won' work.
>>675355461
People are poor because they are bad at allocating their resources. Giving them more resources to allocate badly will not help.
>>675355733
Do you really think the 1% cares if they take the fault when the the Government gives them taxmoney everytime they fuck up and call it Stimulus. You can think Dodd-Frank for the housing bubble, and now they are regulating Wall Street more. ;)
>>675356366
Before people relied on the Government people actually helped other people.
>>675356769
Young white men had more unemployment than black young white men before substandardized housing and government programs started.
>>675358317
This is many ways true. The economy relies on the baker, the plumber and all the little companies that keep the economy afloat. They need less taxes but nobody gives a shit about them.
>>675359446
It will be if College will be free. The more people that have college degrees the more it will be useless. Coming from a guy who lives in a Nordic country that thrives in spite of socialism, not having a masters degree is basically being uneducated.
>>675359904
Irrelevant
>>675360020
>implying putin is a poor leader
>>675359669
America still exports more dollars worth of goods than any other nation China included. Stop believing things you read on bumper stickers.
>>675360063
Bingo. But as a regressive you won't believe me, so whateves.
>>675360096
Yeah, but the focus is a little less shit. Don't get me wrong, it's still low-tier.
>>675352713
Socialism!
Because identity politics are the most important thing in the world, not the failing economy.
>>675360337
didnt know any of this but why is hockey in there lol
>>675360230
I'm high so some stuff there is badly written
>black young white men = black men
>think Dodd-Frank = thank
>>675358560
>be Sanders
>be in the Senate for 40 years
>propose 3 bills, deny 90% of everything else
>find out about socialism
>"we give people things for free my dude!"
>holy shit that sounds great
>board the socialist train
>1990
>still going strong
>2016
>Europe going to shit
>"maybe it isn't true socialism though, free stuff still sounds pretty good"
>checks out the least-shitty european countries
>find out the technical term for your average european government
>"hell yeah guys, lets do democratic socialism!"
>not catching on
>"yo, college dudes, want some free college?"
>votes secured
>oh man, what if we make everything free
>"my dudes, fuck the wealthy amiright?"
>secures some more votes
>finds out that makes no sense
>"nvm guys, just fuck the billionaires"
>angers the 15 in the US
>"we needed something to hate on aight"
>"btw, Jeb Bush doesn't exist, and no more bought elections amiright?"
>gets some cheap college votes
>realize people asking for the numbers
>has reps write up list of things the bern wish he could hand out
>"check out da plan my dudes"
>college kids fail to notice actual economics
>get some more votes
>feeling not too bad
>>675360375
literally never heard anybody link insulting a nationality to their government but cool
>>675360020
Would vote for Putin if he were running. Sick of beta cucks like Obama and Sanders.
>>675360112
no, actually, writing, being a therapist, being a case manager, basically anything that requires a degree.
But I don't expect your closed mind to grasp that. Better just call knowledge "shit tier" kek
>>675354212
So lets say i make 50,000 US dollars this year, and I am taxed 10% of my wages, thats 5,000 US dollars. That means I can only buy 45,000 dollar burgers at McDonalds.
Richy Richerton made 1,000,000 US dollars last year, and for the sake of rich folk freaking out about big taxes, lets tax him 50%, or 500,000 US dollars. That means that faggot can still buy 500,000 of said dollar cheeseburger at McDonalds.
I don't give two fucks about the fact that you "earned" 20 times more than me through all the hard work you did inheriting your grandpas old oil business. A dollar for you is shit, but a dollar for me could mean dinner.
Feeling the bern, bitches. Feelin' it good.
>>675360509
Because it's showing that Russia is not only an economic superpower, but is also very cultured as well
>>675360658
Notice how I did not say "All Saudis" and just Saudis. You gotta read.
>>675360112
Actually political science is less important than any of the stuff on your list. From that blunder alone, I can tell what kind of person you are.
>>675359071
Sorry m8, also hate the Bern, but that argument makes no sense. If not for science, your job wouldn't exist
>psyche!
>>675352713
Socialism, because niggers do not want to come up to white standards. Socialism, because we want to pull the whites down to our level.
>>675360658
>white people are retards
notice how i didnt say all white people
>>675360218
The government is the people that elect it, so no.
And because the private sector keeps fucking up and deciding to rich selfish assholes who won't hire with decent wages, we need a strong system to supplement the gaps, and we also need strong law enforcement to ensure that reforms are successful.
>>675361030
>our
nigger.
>>675360811
Yeah, after getting a master's. A BA in psychology ain't worth shit.
>>675360899
Psychology is in fact worthless astrology-tier garbage, but after six or eight years it can get you a great job for sure. But tell me what kind of person I am, friend.
>>675360959
Not talking about science in general, actually.
>>675360842
Most poor fags get more back from their "refunds" than they paid in. The wealthy already pay upwards of 80% of the taxes in this country. You're argument is stupid, you are stupid and you should kill yourself when Bernie loses as a form of protest.
>>675352713
Lol
>>675355829
You're describing dictatorships basically, you do know Venezuela pretty much blew up because they had oil and the US has money right? True socialism has never and will never existe unless we all become mind reading/linked society. Go ahead and read the definitions of socialism, it does not mean what you think it means.
>>675358780
>blacks are docile, friendly, transparent and forthcoming
You do realize that generalizing an entire race, positive or not, is still racist right?
>wait though, I was trying to seem non-racist anon lol....they aren't all the same? I see nice ones on tv sometimes...
>>675360615
>hasn't read enough history to understand that, regardless of party, the public policies enacted by the US government have a net left-lean.
the problems that Sanders identifies were never solved after the capitalist political economy supplanted republican political economy in the 1870s-90s. Since then, corporations and leaders of the business community have largely been the ones directing the course of America's economic and thus social development. Like I said, they've made capitulations to workers over the last 120 years because they understand that without a pacified slave-army, they make no profits.
>>675359168
$13.6 billion for a wall. The border patrol already exists and would allow them to be much more effective. Most of the border patrol vehicles are offroad vehicles, so roads are not an issue. Reinforced concrete is damn near maintenance free, especially when it can be replaced by sections in a few hours. Tunnels are hard to dig through a reinforced concrete foundation. That would have to be a hell of a ladder or rope to get over it with border patrol hanging out on the other side. The resources not used on chasing down illegals would pay for the wall, and security is not free.
>>675352713
Fuck off Bernie cucks
>>675355654
Most gated community anons have so much money they wouldn't care, I imagine. It's the hard-working middle-class that bears the highest cost for supporting the welfare state.
Socialism works when you don't have a ton of browns
But we do
>>675355511
wut?
>>675352713
Back to
>Reddit.com
>>675360337
saved
>>675361320
I might do it, but that still doesnt take away from the fact that my one dollar is a much bigger percentage of my income than it is yours.
Richfags have already proven over and over again that money doesn't trickle down, it sits at the top and circlejerks the fuck out of afluenzic assholes, much like yourself.
>>675352713
Maybe someday African Americans can have their own channels on TV, maybe get their own Television station, and can get their own magazines, and newspapers that perpetually glorify the black race and vilify the white race. Maybe someday African Americans will make up more than half of the mayors in the largest cities in America. Maybe someday they will be lucky enough to get their own congressional black caucus and elect large numbers of government officials - heck maybe even president one day. Maybe if colleges lowered their standards to admit more African Americans and raise standards to make it more difficult for Asians and whites. Maybe someday the government will force banks to give minorities lower mortgage rates and fees aimed at African Americans to give them specific advantages and make home ownership easy and cheap for African Americans, and high risk loans will be given to minorities in disproportionate amount, even if it costs the taxpayers to bail out the banks when the loans are defaulted. Maybe someday, the government will force businesses to hire African Americans by percentage and call it "Affirmative Action". Maybe someday, standards will be lowered enough in police departments and fire departments to make it so more African Americans can be policemen and firemen. Maybe someday no child left behind will go away, and standards lowered for minorities in schools across America because we can't expect too much out of minorities and everyone knows these under-performing minorities value education most. Maybe someday, med school requirements will be lowered so that 90% of African Americans that apply can get in, 30% of white Americans, and 13% of Asians that apply get in regardless of entrance scores. Won't it be lovely when this happens? Until that day, everyone will continue the fight against institutional racism.
>>675361314
>But tell me what kind of person I am, friend.
you didn't get political science right, so you're probably full of shit on everything else
>>675361314
Social science, which helped industrial workers(you) from getting fucked up the ass lawless capitalism
>we have laws now so we good
>>675361320
> The wealthy already pay upwards of 80% of the taxes in this country
You are committing Elledges Fallacy.
As a proportion of their income the wealthy pay the least in tax. The middle class and working poor pay the most.
The reason the wealthy pay such a large amount of the total is simple: They have all the fucking money.
>>675361314
>A BA in psychology ain't worth shit.
so you are in fact stupid and ignorant of the field
shocking
inb4 i had a friend who majored in it
>>675352968
Public education has been and will always be shit
>>675361703
lol this image is so stupid it hurts
>>675361535
that's kind of funny, now imagine one with all trump pictures and "make america great again" slogan, except that's the "I dropped out of high school starter pack"
>>675361193
>selfish assholes who won't hire with decent wages
Last time I checked it is your decision to accept the offer of employment. If you don't feel you are paid enough at your position, better yourself and find more gainful employment.
>>675361703
>>675361535
>can't make stupid faggot right-wing garbage stick anymore
>blames it on reddit
zoz
>>675361973
Explain
>>675361703
>Lose the company money
>valuable skills
This is a joke right?
>>675361885
Winrar
>>675361320
the wealthy are supposed to pay that many in taxes. however there are a vast many tax loopholes which are widely exploited, and they dont pay near that much. infact their taxes right now are the lowest its almost ever been. one of bernies biggest pushes is to stop the abusing of these tax loopholes
>>675361885
>As a proportion of their income the wealthy pay the least in tax
Are you retarded? Percentage by definition is a proportion, and they pay more than all other income-brackets.
>>675361885
correcting the only flaw in your post
pic related
>>675361984
>implying trump voters are stupid
Nice meme
>>675361921
My sister, actually. Has that exact degree, against the advice of my family, and does in fact wait tables.
>>675361825
Sure thing :^)
>>675361846
Ehhhhhh. Maybe something to thank early progressives about.
>>675362036
>needs the stupidity explained...
>>675355339
Uhm... k? Your point is?
>>675361440
>let me just bring up some irrelevant historical facts to bury anon's argument, maybe I'll look intelligent in the process, who knows?
L E A V E T H I S P L A C E
>>675361885
>They have all the fucking money
They won't under socialism! the government will finally put an earnings cap on, so no no one with real talent or ambition should try and get wealthy, finally! We can have everything the talented and hard working people can have!
This is socialism victory!
>>675362015
so what? It's not enough money to live on.
Why do you hate when people want to change an outdated system?
>>675362036
it is the most naive portrayal of employment possible. you realize that without REGULATIONS we would still have 8 year olds working 20 hours day like at the boom of the industrial revolution. capitalism is truly inherently exploitative without regulation.
Yeah, totally. Socialism hasn't or isn't totally failing in every implementation ever.
TL;dr - what is Venezuela, France, USSR
>>675362023
Do you have an actual rebuttal or are you going to post more reddit-tier garbage?
Please retake High School Economics
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_demand
>>675355512
>implying poor people are lazy
>implying poor people who work three jobs, all day, are more lazy than someone who was born a millionaire
>>675352713
hello fellow redditor
>>675362137
The rich make their money from investments, not salaries.
Idiot.
>>675362370
Minimum wage increases make the poor poorer and lead to higher unemployment
>>675362257
Most colleges in the U.S. have some seriously socialistic Marxist teachers.
>>675362261
so all you have is cool stories
I'm reeling. Enjoy being anti-education. I'm sure it makes your side look even less Dark Ages.
>>675362336
faggot
>implying politricks matter.
>>675362336
It's apparent you don't know what "Socialism" is...
>>675362421
>TL;dr - what is
a communist dictatorship
oh you don't know? Better call it "socialism"
>France
name even one way France has failed because of socialist policies
>>675352713
take an economics class. Any system that attempts to distribute free services is not built to last. There is no such thing as free.
>>675362403
The picture is not advocating for removal of regulations and children are not adults capable of free thought and logical decision making.
>>675362569
>Anti-education
Anti education would be burning down schools you mongoloid
>>675362569
It's sure more evidence than you've presented.
There's a reason psychology is considered underwater basket weaving tier.
>>675362447
you're actually making my rebuttal for me
your shit stinks, you can't get it to stick
better blame redditors
still zozing
>>675355986
>>675355828
what's the deal with usa always comparing themselves to third world countries? whenever something is criticized you go "well, we're slightly better than sudan! that means we're doing everything perfect!!"
only losers compare themselves to the weakest in the group.
>>675362732
It's Niggerfied
>>675362790
Never mind that I'm easily more educated than he is, hating the most worthless section of academia == anti-education :^).
>>675362782
the picture is arguing that we don't need a minimum wage because the free market sorts these things out on its own
it doesnt
>>675359948
I have a polisci degree. I'm pretty successful.
>mfw people in the Stem field always overlook the human element to life and society
>yfw our kind are usually your boss/supervisor as you are a technical cog and we are leaders.
>>675353984
You are a fucking retard raise the voting age to 25 so ignorant shits like you can't vote.
>>675356018
what is employees still being taxed at high rates
>>675362742
An economics class won't tell you anything about how a government works.
>>675362852
And only idealists cherry pick the best when they want something
>>675362807
actually again, you seem to be unaware that people get hired for good jobs with psychology degrees
You hate it when people gain knowledge that goes against your narrow worldview.
Our discussion would way more honest if you at least admitted it.
Its not about giving niggers money, its about money not sitting around in the possesion of a few. Capital cannot stagnate like that, it's bad for the economy.
>>675356187
>See Venezuela for more recent examples.
that's not venezuela, you dumb cunt
>>675352713
Auschwitz > Israel
>>675362960
Prove it
>>675362336
>Implying that billionaires earned the tens of millions in dividends they make each year
>>675361885
You totally missed the point. Poorfags pay nothing in taxes. They benefit from public works and institutions that they contribute nothing to.
>>675362477
Who cares? Investments fund capital goods, which lower input costs for businesses which puts downward pressure on prices and increases real wages for everyone.
Stop acting like wealthy people somehow owe you burger-flippers anything
>>675360153
Well excuse me, you lazy faggot. I'm not working for a random faceless pig who I've never met in my life.
#feelthebern
>>675360615
your stupidity reaches levels that shouldnt be possible
>>675362742
the worlds leading economists lean slightly left, fiscally
>>675361607
True
>>675363031
Retard
>>675362732
>name one way France has failed because of socialist policies
As if this needs to be explained
>>675363023
People get good jobs with English degrees too- it doesn't make the degree itself any less worthless or the field any less cucked.
>>675362937
>i'z way smarter
Dunning-Krueger much?
>>675362898
US cities are "Niggerfied" too...
Free market Capitalism is based on the free movement of people.
>>675362831
Poor Bernie cucks can't even provide a decent counter-argument let alone acknowledge a fundamental economic law
>>675362613
No man, I'm not a faggot like turmp supporters.
I'm a Bernie Sanders fan, and I want socialism, because socialism has historically been superior in all countries that have ever changed to it in their countries! Every Socialist country ever has had the greatest economy, and the greatest happiness, and wealth for everyone equally! I love bernie bernie bernie bernie!!
Feel the bern!
>>675363252
so getting a good job is "worthless"
k
>>675352713
>tfw democratic gommienism includes capitalism
Have fun promoting the homosexual agenda, shitlord
>>675353337
No only at idiots who think Hillary and burn are great leaders. Putin even said he thinks trump would be a good president. Just keep on cucking it's the only way you know how to live.
>>675363263
Nah. I know I'm competent and my salary proves it.
>>675363333
Nice quads, but you could have gotten a better job with a real degree.
>>675363327
Telling someone to go back to "R--ddt" is hardly an argument shithead.
>>675362015
That's too hard for all the Bernie loving NEETs here. They just want the government to rob people who work hard so they can get their Autismbux check twice a month allowing them to play vidya and draw new Sonic characters all day. Under socialism there is no incentive to strive and mediocrity is subsidized to mediocrity and stagnation are what you get.
>>675363321
Free movement of people capable of surviving in the free market.
Take away their government benefits and watch who quickly they flee to Europe or Canada in search of "refuge" from the consequences of their incompetence.
>>675363330
Then you'll forgive me if I think you aren't even being the least sincere, Brother in Bern.
faggot
>>675363151
>when you want to feel the bern but facts extinguishes the fire
Sorry mate, didn't mean to kill the dream of free colegio
>>675363327
the worlds leading economists lean slightly left fiscally
>>675363104
>Poorfags pay nothing in taxes.
Social Security spending is paid for 100% by Payroll Tax. The rich make their money from investments, not wages. The rich pay nothing to Social Security nor welfare.
>>675363356
Number 1 reason why to vote trump.
to fuck you SJW and liberaltards up the ass
>>675363507
all I see is a faggot making up shit, so no
>>675362370
>so what? It's not enough money to live on.
No, it's not enough money for you to live the life with all the luxuries you seek. There's a big difference.
>Why do you hate when people want to change an outdated system?
You mean people who don't want to put forth the effort to improve their position and think other people should change to accommodate them? I worked a decent job and lived comfortably for a while. Then I pursued a job in an area I enjoyed, and got paid shit. I still worked hard and was offered a job where I make exponentially more. When you settle for something and expect other people to change, when you refuse to make a change for yourself, you're in the wrong. Break out of your bubble, faggot.
>>675362713
I love socialism man. The rich people just have all their money given to them because they're white and do not earn it! They're privileged white cis-gendered racist trump butt sucking assholes, that need to be exterminated like the jews! Islam is better than trump supporters!
US foreign policy is the reason Islamist do suicide attacks, and the reason is because the over reaching of US foreign policy of colonialism in the middle east! Those girls love living in cloth bags, as it is a part of their culture!
>>675363687
No shit, they're power-hungry.
>>675363770
I sure did make it up :^)
>>675363191
slightly left is different from a socialist system. Most economists are to the left, because republican economic policies are trash.
>>675360337
>>675360724
>supports usa's #1 enemy
you guys are brilliant. no one here understands anything about global politics? You've been watching too much conspiracy bullshit on RT.
>>675362732
Not knowing that USSR policy was socialist in nature.
>what is Economic Problems of Socialism in the USSR, written by Josef Stalin
France's younger generation is literally being advised to leave France in droves because years of socialist policy allowing people to leech the life out of the working class have created a future that has no place for them in it.
http://world.time.com/2013/05/21/forget-paris-stymied-by-socialist-policies-the-french-start-to-quit-france/
Do I need to explain Venezuela for you too? Or can you actually look that one up on your own?
Socialism is awful. And what's worse, it doesn't even marginally work in small scale anymore (as we are seeing with France, Venezuela) what are the chances it works en masse ? (USSR?)
>>675363507
>a better job with a real degree
that's not what you said, though
and if you're full of shit on this subject, you're probably out to lunch on everything else.
>>675362135
I favor an end to income taxes entirely and the creation of a national sales tax. Nobody escapes it, everybody decides what they pay based on what they buy.
>>675363699
you do realize that attempting to evade the spam filter here is a ban, right?
>>675360724
>beta cucks
the insecurity is palpable. i cringed.
>>675363686
how is that shit facts hahahaha
>dude....
>>675363920
>that's not what you said
You what?
>>675362742
the money is already there. its going to the people who have the most, and have so much of it they couldnt spend it in their lifetimes if they had normal spending habits.nothing its free. his tax reforms are an attempt at getting middle classs and below some actual form of money
>>675363829
lol
so economists are only right about everything WHILE THEY ARE AGREEING WITH YOU
>>675357630
2016, not understanding that northern Europe is a shithole
>>675360337
every time russia's economy strengthens, usa's weakens, you dumb cunt. is that what you want? do you hate usa that much?
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