Guy in brussels here.
AMA
>>675292380
How will you retaliate against Donald Trump?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4s6LWBBEwI
>>675292861
Yes
>>675292380
>EAT SHIT WITH FRANCE
>>675292967
>>675292380
So how bad is the muslim problem in belgium these days? The paris terrorists also came from Brussels.
Is islam truli the religion of peace?
Sorry to hear Western bro.
All the best.
Fuck Muslims
>>675293363
The muslims aren't a problem at all, it's just a big concentration of extremists in brussels. I don't even believe it's their fault, but it's the fault our government. Especially the local brussels government.
>>675293398
There is no such thing as a religion of peace. As long as there is a God, people will kill in it's name.
>>675293563
You say that but the streets in the Netherlands were filled with celebrating "moderates" and teachers were tweeting they had to stop classes because of the celebrating moroccans.
>>675293800
Really?
>>675293800
Those tweets were completely made up. It's complete and utter bullshit. Anyone who knows how ISIS works, will understand this isn't any religions fault.
Amerifag here. How irritated are you with your incredibly liberal society? Did your people get pissed when your government allowed the sand niggers to pour in completely unchecked? Also, how does it feel know you have no guns to protect yourselves or your property?
>>675293877
Yes, but is that really surprising at this point?
https://youtu.be/qwUhk3XkG1Q?t=16
>>675293975
Explain how understanding the self proclaimed islamic state will show me how it has nothing to do with religion.
>>675294165
Do you have a non video link?
Sorry man, these euro bombings are shit
>>675294091
A lot of people were pissed, I wasn't. I am more pissed that there isn't any assistance or help for the actual immigrants, to help them prevent becoming extremists.
3/22 never pomfrit
>>675294215
The Islamic State has everything to do with religion, but has nothing to do with Islam. That's like saying Pius X order is Christianity.
>>675292380
Why are you faggots not striking back, at least blow up some mosques ffs
>>675294494
Really?
>>675294560
Yes. Really.
>>675294494
Imagine if we had this fool as president during world War 2. We would be lampshades right now. Isis is a modern day jihad fool.
I hope you and your family is safe, waffle nigger
>>675294524
Just the way most of us are raised, get hit on one cheek, show the other.
A large percentage of muslims is not yet extremistic, let's try to keep it that way and not provoke more extremism.
>>675292380
Would you have sex with a woman with a femenine pensi?
>>675294739
This. IS isn't the motive, it's just the explanation. Revenge is the motive here.
>>675294091
belgian politics is complete fucking aids
>vote right party
>right party has 30% of votes, being the biggest party
>party gets expelled as they're considered 'racist' which is complete fucking bullshit
>lots of right votes into the trash
>left socialists now majority
>>675294494
I am an atheist but that's a retarded statement. All Muslims might not be terrorists, but all terrorists are Muslims. There have been almost 30,000 Muslim terrorist attacks since 9-11. There are over a billion Muslims in the world. If 5 percent are radicalized, that's literally millions of terrorists. Islam is the problem.
>>675294631
Really?
>>675294751
No.
My american heart and prayers to the people in brazil!!
>>675294898
I wish isis starts targeting those fucking politicians
>>675294906
Not all terrorists are muslims. That's a complete idiotic statement. Know your history.
>>675293975
Hahaha, you can't be this stupid. Do you know what Halal means? It means it has a religious tax on it, a lot of which ends up in the hands of extremist organisations.
Do you think it's a coincidence the paris terrorists were able to hide for months? No, it's those peaceful muslims you keep going on about who supply them with money, food, bombs and shelter.
Muslims = no good dead dog shit punks
Belgian here, getting sick of this shit. The only thing I can see on social media atm is that this is not the mudslimes fault. All these fags are sucking these sandnigger cocks, just waiting to get blown up
>>675294739
But you present yourself as a vulnerable target that way. In theory it is nice to try and hold the upper ground, but in reality by turning the other cheek your gonna get blasted again. They want the west gone, this makes it easier
>>675293800
Bullshit. Kankerflikker.
>>675295201
Nice US ip u got there 'belgian' fag.
>>675294906
That doesn't make any sense. Do you even logic?
It's like saying that 100% terrorists have weapons, so you should ban weapons in america because weapons are the problem.
And if they worshiped a holy cow and still killed people becuase reasons, would it still be terrorism? how is it different in any way?
>>675292380
Why don't you follow his footsteps
>>675294906
>All terrorists are Muslims
Nigger, you what?
Is there a party in Brussels? I hear everyone is having some blast
why is everyone assuming that those sick fucks have something to do with me because i'm a muslim?
They are scum. The majority of ISIS recruits are criminals or prisonners(weak,frustrated losers with no brain), brainwashed and manipulated into thinking that they can somehow "be great again" (lol the coincidence) if they repent and become "true muslims".
Being weak and ignorant they believe they can repent themselves by becoming "true muslims". and for them of course true muslim means fighting infidels and fake muslims who aren't killing infidels.
I'm open for discussion if someone is willing to.
>>675296334
So youre a fake muslim?
>>675294739
You get it, for the most part.
I'm a muslim myself and i wouldn't care if you blow up mosques, even if i think it's stupid.
Same goes for Charlie Hebdo. I dont find them funny nor offensive, but i know it's a stupid idea to mess with ignorant, violent people.
I agree with the fact that the way "westerner" are raised (left wing, human rights, all the being civilised thing) isn't the best way at all to face ISIS and ISIS potential recruits. TBH i think this is the weakness ISIS is exploiting right now and it has to stop.
But i happend to be a muslim that agrees with this western view. It's a dillema
>>675296334
so you denounce your holy scripture? a true muslim cheers at the attacks in belgium. a pussy like you lies about denouncing them
>>675296604
what?
The top echelons of ISIS are exclusively ex-iraq high ranking military officials.
They hide behind religion but have no real interest in themuslim faith, it is just used as a blunt instrument to recruit impressionable young people. The same way they produce slick, well edited execution videos to bring world attention to there aims.
This organization would not exist or be nowhere as successful as it was now if not for America destroying Iraq in two wars.
>>675297607
This is exactly what an ISIS recruit would say.
It's quite funny tbh, unless you are an ISIS recruit of course.
>>675294739
>A large percentage of muslims is not yet extremistic, let's try to keep it that way and not provoke more extremism.
Look, wanker, don't try and threaten me into silence I will talk about this any way i choose. Here is an idea, why not keep it that way by NOT blowing people up, instead of trying to stop people from expressing their opinion.
Terrorist don't eat Brussel Sprouts like you
Cry
>>675297701
But what are they looking for? Money?
I agree with the fact that they are using religion, as well as the propaganda with their videos to get "impressionnable young people" and braindead criminal losers. But why are they doing that? what are they trying to achieve?
>>675298171
>But what are they looking for? Money?
No, power, what men the world over want.
>But why are they doing that? what are they trying to achieve?
To expand, they want to make the Islamic state bigger, more powerful, first Syria, then god knows where.
Intelligent Americans already knows this, not the hur der Belgium got what they deserved for being cucks brigade you get on here.
>>675297933
Idk if you get it. They are targeting civilians and you want to talk about it?
You think something will stop them from blowing up people? they are good for nothing, mostly criminal scum brainwashed into that way of thinking.
>>675298509
No, you misunderstand. I agree with you.
The muslim guy was basically saying don't provoke more bombings and keep quiet.
I won't keep quiet.
>>675297933
I had no fucking idea what you were talking about, so I'm just going to assume this is bait.
Not even high quality bait, just regular bait.
>>675298171
Have you heard of the Dabiq? If you're really interested in their 'motives' you could give it a go. It's like you said, most of ISIS are quite braindead. They see us as crusaders and still believe in their pure world, where everyone is muslim. That's their endgame.
http://www.clarionproject.org/news/islamic-state-isis-isil-propaganda-magazine-dabiq
>>675298497
>To expand, they want to make the Islamic state bigger, more powerful, first Syria, then god knows where.
Why would they want an Islamic state in the first place. Especially if they dont have intrest in Islam.
And tbh, seeing what they have "acheived" untill now, they aren't completly stupid. SO they realise they are not that powerful (they arent even producing the weapons they are using)
Unless they have ally willing to stay behind them untill the end, they no they are no match. They have nothing by themselves
>>675293800
Kys kankerhomo
>>675298858
I'm the guy you're talking about, I'm not muslim. I'm an atheist, get you're shit straight. I never said you had to remain quiet. I said I just don't believe in the eye for an eye, tooth for tooth principle.
I didn't see this message yet and assumed your first one was bait. Didn't expect to see such a dense faggot here.
>>675299114
I am not sure you understand the nature of power. They are from the middle east, the majority of people in the Middle east are Muslim. If you want any sort of power, influence or territories in the Middle East, you can't ignore that religion, even if you are not a fanatic, you can use it for your own gains.
>>675299382
kanker
>>675299012
All I am saying is that on here you are not in any position to advocate anything.
Unless...Say someone does beat to death a muslim guy or blows up a mosque and you still say the same thing - to muslims about not retaliating and not provoking anyone, just take it and accept it and be quiet.
Then fair enough.
>>675298858
I dont think that guy is a muslim, he made a point tho: It's the way he (as a westerner) was raised, to turn the other cheek..
>>675299012
I will give it a shot.
I am a muslim myself, so i think it can be intresting to have a serious discussion going about what is happening
>>675299467
Fuck off you hippie. If that is true, then you have no right to lecture anyone on anything.
>>675299503
Of couse i do. I understand your point.
So you agree that those high ranked guys using those instruments for their own gains aren't that stupid (at least for noticing how to gain power)
So, how can they not see that they are no match to other "powers"? Like hell they are not even making their own weapons.
>>675299960
Are you bait, or just really stupid?
Serious question here, you dont even the simplest points we are trying to make
>>675300468
Not at the moment, they have a structure in place though, not to make weapons but in terms of gaining support. They are at an embryonic stage at the moment and they are trying to cause the maximum disruption with the limited resources they have at there disposal.
>>675299830
That's exactly what I'd say to anyone, you don't solve anything by just blowing up some people or a mosque.
No offense, but are you american? If so I can understand what you're going at, but blowing up mosques with innocent muslims or like IS does, blowing up innocent people on the streets doesn't solve shit, just as school shootings don't solve shit.
Getting to the core of the problem is what's needed, getting rid of IS. By killing people who have nothing to do with it, you will only cause more harm. That way you get stuck in a vicious cycle.
Also not a hippie, again not even close. You'd better stop assuming so much.
>>675300695
Oh I think I do. You are basically a knob that gets on my nerves.
Someone asked why 'you faggots not striking back'
And you said - because I was raised as a pussy.
What else is too get? Now go and eat another macrobiotic yogurt.
>>675300839
You mean they have or will have an asset (financial i am assuming) that will let them negotiate and gain support? Support from who? Knowing that actually they are the enemies of anyone but themselves
>>675296334
no reasonable person conflates terrorists with all muslims. but to deny the link between islamic doctrine and terror attacks is to deny reality.
whether you like it or not, they are not preaching some "false" islam, they are preaching it at literal, face value, which is how you interpret a text. you and every other normal, good person are taking logical leaps to interpret the texts and ignore passages to live within a secular society, just as christians and other religions, and that's great.
I fear for you and every other decent person if we're not able to address this honestly. it will breed blanket hatred in stupid people if they're not allowed to speak about issues that anyone with a brain can see are real and serious
even with terror attacks the stigma around addressing islam honestly hurts muslims more than anyone else in the middle east by not allowing conversation about it.
just a reminder that the islam world is now divided in two zones. it's all destabilization and similiar tactics. they are simply being conquered for resources most liekly
unjust wars always spawn resistance
>>675301271
Once more, stop assuming mate.
I'm not even him >>675300695
I'll end all my posts from now on with a symbol, so you don't have to think too much
~
>>675301271
Your stupidity hurts. It must be a real burden.
So you suggest we should burn mosques? then what? what will we burn the next time they blow up something?
>>675301516
You are birds of a feather so you can stick your symbol. It doesn't matter on an anonymous board anyway Einstein.
America take these refugees off of our hands
~
>>675297637
Your book calls for both not killing anyone and fighting anyone who doesn't support islam. It's just that the majority of muslims and religious people in general cherry pick only what they like from their books in order to make it seem more appealing to others
>>675293800
Proven untrue. Also, if that ever does happen, understand that propaganda would likely make the local community on the side of the "freedom-fighters".
>>675293877
No not really
>>675301656
No I am not saying anyone should burn a mosque. haven't said that at all.
All I am saying is stop being an accepting pussy, which when you boil it down is what you are being. You think you are being rational and more enlightened than me but it is OK to get angry.
>>675301887
LOL and people were giving Trump shit because he didnt want to bring in these refugees, they are fucking all of Europe up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2ZGv6Mu-08
>>675293975
This guy gets it...
>>675302201
I'll give you two shekels to take them all
~
>>675294215
>>675295122
Because the C.I.A. Along with other intelligence agencies from the west funded and made ISIS.
>>675301873
I just wanted to help you, since you keep assuming everyone is me.
>>675301887
Although you pretended to be me, I can live with this, America can have al these refugees, it's not like anyone wants them here anyway.
>>675302651
Yeah well that is just another example of how naive and stupid you are.
If i could be bothered i would make a load of posts. With a tilde at the end of them but I CAN'T
>>675302534
>Because the C.I.A. Along with other intelligence agencies from the west funded and made ISIS.
That could be the case but it could also be made up bullshit, its not like it was hard for ISIS to storm and raid Iraqi weapon depos for shit since they are a bunch of lazy fucks.
>>675302651
>Although you pretended to be me, I can live with this, America can have al these refugees, it's not like anyone wants them here anyway.
That wouldnt be so bad if the refugees cleaned themselves up from the trouble makers, if they saw a fellow refugee doing illegal shit and turned them in im sure they would be more welcome but since most of them hide their own they are all in the shit together even if they arnt doing anything wrong.
>>675301374
As anon pointed earlier, as i see it islam is just an instrument they are using to get recruits
It just happens that islam is the perfect "field" for them given the present circonstences
I mostly agree with the rest of what you said. Muslims tend to get mad for nothing really. Glad that not all "non-muslims" think that all muslims are like that
>>675303123
What you have to remember is that a lot of these refugees are tired, scared and confused. The last thing they want is more trouble.
>>675303625
They could at the very least assimilate with the society they are going to.
>>675292380
Are you 6'4" and full of muscles?
>>675302184
again, i am muslim.
Of course you can be angry, everyone should be angry. All we are judging are your statements, and this was the only rational one you made.
>>675303734
Yeah, that is true. When large groups come to other countries they could make more of an effort. Also the kids they make become monsters being brought up in western countries with the values of the cultures these refugees should really leave behind.
>>675303625
>last thing they want is more trouble
>too scared to clean up their own community so they are accepted in the new countries they are in instead of rejected.
>>675303734
also this, a lot of them are running around assaulting people and stealing shit
>>675292380
How are you liking your "diversity"?
How does it make you feel that your tax money is paying for those mongrels to make war against your people?
Ik was in Brussel vandaag. Alles was gesloten, en de stations waren ook afegesloten. Zwaarbewapende Flikken overal,
>>675293563
Why Europe is screwed everyone, take note.
As hordes of Muslims invade, rape and murder in Europe, brainwashed yuropoors only excuse them.
>>675293800
There was one report of that,
It was a yoga teacher at a buddhist school
>>675294360
Well you could stop subsidizing their invasion, instead of laughably trying to reform Islam.. Muslims have kinda been doing this for 1400 years but you lefties think its just a problem with "extremists" kek.
Black and white doesn't matter they all died
>>675303415
it very well could just be an instrument to be used to achieve an end for the higher ups, but for the recruits themselves that do the killing and are willing or eager to die I think it's hard not to find motivations clearly in the doctrine.
to be honest, I can count the muslims I know in real life on one hand, and they're great people I have a lot of respect for (except for a fat white whale SJW convert).
The majority of the failing of being able to discuss islam comes from the left, but I believe that is diminishing. Yet I wonder if most decent muslims will be willing to undergo the introspection and be willing to have the conversation about some of the ugliness in the text, which will be necessary, what do you think? In terms of content the old testament is arguably a worse book, but christians have to problems owning up to some terrible passages there and just saying "yeah I don't follow that."
>>675304915
Wait, isn't that how capitalism works, with percentages standing for amount of GDP produced by corporations?
Al-Markat akbar, amirite?
When, oh when, did muslim terrorism become an actual thing?
I mean, it's easy to imagine Greek governments are fucking their own people, but imply the same for Western European and US governments, and we're all conspiracy theorists and commies...
>>675305223
This was deep
>>675293363
ehh the Belgians are more badass that you would think. They always manage to drive out those who would harm them eventually.
>During the war, it is estimated that approximately five percent of the national population were involved in some form of resistance activity,while some estimates put the number of resistance members killed at over 19,000; roughly 25 percent of its "active" members...Indeed, more German troops were reportedly killed in Belgium in 1941 than in all of Occupied France
>>675305617
What the hell are you talking about? Mass Islamic immigration is a government program... not capitalism.
Western European governments are definitely fucking over the native populations, no denying that at this point.