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"refuges welcome"
- European Liberals
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islam is welcome here
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>>675252979
Thank you very much
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Looking for news? >>>/news/
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>>675252979
Oh my fucking god you don't fucking understand this that kind of reaction that actually radicalizes people ? Stop being a fucking retard and think refugees and innocent foreigners coming to our first world countries have anything to do with that.
If you're building racism on here, you should feel responsible of what's happening and what's coming.
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>>675255047
B8
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>>675255047
oh god I almost came... moar pls
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>>675255182
not him but how so? less than 1% of those refugees did this kind of shit. Its not logical yo
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>>675255047
/thread

I didn't know /b/ held intelligent life.
I would suck you off I'm so happy
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>>675255047
faggot of the year award
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>>675255372
Well you gotta travel to Brussels then, I'm in the middle of it.
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>>675255047
shut the fucc up you dumbass troll
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Das racist to blame it all on poor refugees. Mahmud dindu nuffin.
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Donald Trump next president of the USA, no association with Ukraine, Wilders next VP of the Netherlands, Merkel out: Today was a good day.
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>>675255720
but we can say that terrorists are muslims ? no ?
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>>675252979

Actually if you look at the pictures quite a few of the victims appear to be Arabs, you fucktard.
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All muslims should be shot. This would not happen again. Fuck em
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>>675255720
Well... its not racist directly but do you think its fair to blame and entire group for the actions of a few? what is in the koolaid you guys have been drinking? What if that was the mentality twords all white kids just because some shot up a school?
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>>675255720
Theese people should be killed along with the sandnigger terrorists
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>>675255463
>>675255617
>>675255182
You're probably the one baiting but anyfuckingway, I'm stuck home because of that shit so I'd bite.
You're just proving me right by replying that stupidly. Have at least some arguments other than example of radical islamist committing terrorists attemps.
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>>675256248
> the world should be fair
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>mfw belgium happening
>pic related
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>>675256419
It's not about being fair but being smart to evolve the right way and stopping those kind of things from happening again.
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>>675255360
If you get in a hundred thousand refugees and only 1% are terrorists that's still a thousand terrorists you fucking moron
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>>675255720

>Das racist to blame it all on poor refugees.

No, it simply proves you aren't very intelligent.
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>>675255720
I'm racist.
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>>675256385
the
>it's your own fault you get blown up at an airport in europe because you didn't suck enough sandnigger dicks
post
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>>675256750
Read the 2013 Pew Poll.

1% is bullshit.
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>>675256611
Have you not thought of the reason why this shit is happening in the first place? Why is it? Because this refugee bullshit gives them an opening. It empowers these shitheads.
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>>675256107
Well it's because Europe is pretty much the new Middle East now.
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>>675256931
No. You're a retard cause you don't think much.
You're just reacting like when someone on your left hit your right shoulder, and the first thing that comes to your head is "The dude on my right just hit me, lets hit him back".
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>>675252979
They have was afraid that the small bitch that the police arrested yesterday speaks! Thus they acted!
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>>675256750
Pretty much every poll, even the ones done by liberal organizations, have shown that over 50% of muslims support Sharia Law. That translates to approximately 1 billion muslims.
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Simple question - how many more people need to die before Europe pulls their heads out of their asses?

How many more women need to be raped? How many more subways and airports need to be blown up?
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They're just jealous of your freedom.
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>>675257237
You want liberalism, you got liberalism. Enjoy practicing Islam in 20 years.
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>>675252979
all im looking at is how close that car is parked to the wall. reckless really.
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>>675257237
What is your proposal?
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>>675252979
I'm wanting my liberal news media right now and they are refusing to call it a terrorist attack. Kek.
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>>675256781
kek'd
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>>675255720
I'd rather be an alive racist than a dead "tolerant" person.
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>>675257410
*watching
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>>675257020
Holy shit, have you thought at all ?
There was terrorism before refugees. And much more. Only one of the many Paris Terrorist used the refugee entry to enter. There are many fucking way to come in our countries.
YOU'RE empowering them by rejecting innocent refugees. You're giving hopeless minds a reason to radicalize and therefore giving them power.
Do you really think by telling the refugees to come back to their country they'll just go and say "aight goodbye thx anyway m8" ? No. They'll fight back. Just like any rejected innocent muslim is fighting back with those bullshit.
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>>675252979
americans not welcome
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>>675257237
USA has some of the strictest immigration laws in the world, and it didn't stop the san bernardino shooting did it?
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>>675256989
the
>i'm irrelevant and have nothing smart to say so i'll just try to discredit people I don't agree with
post
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>>675255047
>being angry at terrorists is what creates terrorists
Liberal logic
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>>675257020
That now WHY its happening its HOW its happening you dolt.

>save hundreds of thousands of people
>a small percentage sabatoge us
>Hold all of them accountable because fuck you
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>>675257382
Stop taking in refugees for one. Militarize your borders.

This is what people don't understand - you're at war. They won't stop til you are all dead. They can't be reasoned with. They will come in however they can and they will kill you however they can.
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>>675255720
How is it racist to blame it on islamic immigrant dindus, when islam is a religion and not a race. Fucking idiots do they not know what profiling is how many bombings and shootings does it take to get these people to realize that letting in 1-100 islam dindus and maybe getting a couple of terrorists that will kill any number of innocent civilans that dont have a means to protect themselves(ie guns, knifes, im looking at you eurofags, oh wait i forgot the police will stop them before they kill anyone) is the stupidest thing they could do. They are literally putting the islam dindus before their own citizens,
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Kill all muslims now
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DON'T BE A LOSER, BUY A DEFUSER
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>>675252979

They should put bigger wheels on these suitcases for times like these
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>>675257504
Strictest? LOL, you can just walk right across the border. If fact, tens of thousands do it every year.
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>>675256107
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Thread full of SJWs/trolls, cant even have an decent discussion on half_chan anymore.

Fuck yall, and I would bet my money that terrorists (refugees) were on the case.
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>>675257509
Bro, I've said a lot. But I guess you were busy tweeting shit like this:
>>675257713
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>>675252979
This is huh.... wow
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fucking hate being a swede

https://vimeo.com/159671084
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>>675257713
These people make me sick.
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>>675257652
and then they either get hired by lowes or shipped back shortly after. They spend more time corralling them up than watching the border.
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>>675257583

Terrorists will always, always find a way, even more so in Europe (we have open borders).

Also , you can't stop all refugees. They'll always find a way. You want to control them and integrate them in the society so they are not that sensitive to stupid ISIS arguments and don't fucking blow things up.

Militarizing things will only bring in more terrorists. Ask Israel how're they doing with the militarization and wall thing.
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>>675256107
The Belga news agency reports that shots were fired and shouts in Arabic were heard before the two explosions. Some reports say it was a suicide attack. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35869254
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>>675252979
If you think jihadism arrived to Belgium with the recent refuges, then you have absolutly no idea of our history, stop spreading ignorance.
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>>675257653
That is...funny, & interesting.
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>>675257565
>>save hundreds of thousands of people
This has to be a troll.

>biggerbait.png
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>>675255372
>>675255047

cousin just died. stfu.
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>>675257652
Yeah but they come in illegally... why? because the laws are so strict. Try being someone from eastern europe trying to get into the USA

You Americunts disgust me. Go and destroy the whole of the middle east to feed your gas guzzling SUVs, and don't even take close to 1% of the refugees Europe has absorbed. Fucking cowards
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>>675257807
They don't coral them, in fact, they walk around freely. It's extremely rare for an illegal alien get deported.
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>>675252979
What's this from?
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>>675252979
Why are these bigots running from that beautiful culture?
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>>675257757
I live in Spain and that's not true, but whatever. The difference is that we are not racist fucks and worked to integrate all immigrants. And we're doing fairly well.
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>>675257726
>Whaaaa why doesnt everyone hate immigrants like me whaaaa
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>>675252979
It's a video of the 2011 attack of Domodedovo airport (Moscow)....
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>>675257793
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42jpuXJPk0w

This YT link is the same thing right?
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>>675257807
You must not live in the US, the border is severely understaffed. There are hundreds of miles that aren't watched at all.
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BRUSSELS (AP) – The Latest on explosions at Brussels airport and metro station (all times local):

9:50 a.m.

Zach Mouzoun, who arrived on a flight from Geneva about 10 minutes before the first blast, told France’s BFM television that the second louder explosion brought down ceilings and ruptured pipes, mixing water with blood from victims.
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>>675257955

check any fucking news website you lazy fucking scumbag
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>>675257955
bombings in brussels, atleast 13 dead
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>>675257927
I dont blame them. USA should help us murder all the invaders when the time comes though.
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>>675258004
no its not you fucking retard
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>>675255047
You should feel responsible when that 1 person who isn't innocent gets into our country because we're so fucking carebear about brown people.

You can be the one who jumps on him while he blows himself up, yelling SORRY GUYS I WAS WRONG and trying to save us from the blast.
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>>675257779
Still trying to discredit instead of proving anything. At least point the message you previously wrote, you know ID's are dead right ?
Also i'm not on twitter and am smart enough to know this is not racism but ostracism towards a certain religion.
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>>675255720
> And proud you stupid cuck
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>>675255720
Typical liberal, cucked-loving comment from an idiotic swine.
When I claim all muslims to be terrorist, it does not apply to a single race .. it applies to everone following this fucking medieval religion which hasn't undergone the same secularistic process as christianity. Asians, arabs, caucasians, african - no matter what race you are, if you choose to follow Islam, you are a complete dipshit and deserve to be disembowled with a wooden cooking spoon.
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>>675255047
Gr8 b8 m8 i r8 8/8
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>>675257913
Then have some respect for your cousin and dont be a fucking retard and try to make sort that it does not happen again. Having a sibling die doesnt make your stupid thinking right.
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>>675256074
Not all terrorists are Muslims but all Muslims are terrorists
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Go back to building walls and beign offended by cups which lack "merry Christmas"
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>>675252979
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>>675258082
lel, it's not even the front of the actual Brussel airport but okay, i'm a retard
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>>675258180
Kek
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>>675252979

liberals are adjusting their politics, and this is no reason to elect Nazis and believe their Russia-financed propaganda

www.france24.com/en/20141123-france-far-right-turns-russian-lender-national-front-marine-le-pen/
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>>675257913
Airport or subway?
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>>675256107
Gotta crack a few eggs to make an omelette.

You know, this just proves even more that they're insane and inept. Most of them are in their late teens, and grew up with only Islam and nothing else.
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>>675258089
There were Islam terrorists before refugees. Even if they couldnt come in they would illegally. That's not that fucking ahrd to understand.
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>>675258254
That's the name of the girl working at the gas station.
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>>675252979
Wait what is this? Free,safe and based American here asking.
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>>675257927
I live in Geneva, we have like 30 diff borders with france, and i can tell you that the whole city went to hell after muslims started coming in. Over the last 15 years the city went from spotless to spotless only in the white areas. We have a "red lights district" called Paquis where i shit you not all the drug dealers are muslims and niggers, 80% of hookers are black and all you can find are kebab shops. There are white dealers and hookers in other areas but they keep it civil. Paquis is just fucking disgusting. If you got to less illegal immigrant populated areas of switzerland it is still so damn beautiful and peaceful, but where there are illegal immigrants there is always kebab.
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>>675258215
> quick better make out in front of this dying guy
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>>675256248
A kid wearing a hat came in and beat up a janitor.

Hats were then banned at school so the security camera can see your face.

A jihad wearing a hijab and a bomb came in and blew up the science lab.

You are still allowed to wear hijab because it's culturally sensitive.

Do you see the issue here?
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>>675257444
So they'll only kill us if we don't let them in and give them stuff. Seems reasonable.

Disband the fucking military because Socrates over her just found the answer to world peace: preemptively surrender to whatever group is most likely to act violently.

There's literally no way it could go wrong.
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>>675257991
Ko
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>>675257108
This. They're willing to sacrifice their own if it means killing others.
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>>675252979
Confirmed false flag attack by trump supporters
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>>675258174
maybe just wait and see if they came here as refugees or not. if they did we actually need to change something.
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>>675257927
>implying killing sandmonkeys isn't a glorious thing
Western Europe has become weak.They must crusade once again.
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>>675257812
Integration will not work. Would you want to adapt to Muslim culture if forced to move to the Middle East?
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>>675258215
Another dumb fuck, Belgium has been the european country with the most jihadists for years, this has nothing to do with the recent refugees. Go back to Mc Donalds ignorant fuck
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>>675257541
But you're not being angry at terrorists, but people escaping war to come here.
>Ostracisme creates rejection
>Rejection creates social needs
>ISIS give them the social needs
>ISIS feel like mummy
>they become ISIS
Or whatever extremist organisation you want.
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>>675255047
>>675255720
>>675256385
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>>675252979
this is diversity
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>>675258500
thats a quick meme
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SAVE US TRUMP

WE ARE READY FOR THE CRUSADES

WE JUST NEED A STRONG LEADER

YOU ARE THE CHOSEN ONE
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>>675257444

The more muslims that come into our country, the more votes they get.

Eventually, they will have representatives in office.

They will slowly push laws until Sharia law is in effect.

This is the goal of islam.

Push them all back off the shore. Watch their pitiful boats sink, watch them cry. They don't deserve to be in our country until they throw out their disgusting Islamic ideals.

Their country is in that state because their people are uneducated; even worse, indoctrinated by islam.
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>>675255720
white man is so fag
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>>675258115
If you choose to follow radical Islam. Not Islam.
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>>675257713
When did Islam become a race? That's news to me. Guess I'll get insulted instead of enlightened.
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>>675257504
>stopping a shooting in USA

How do you blame immigrants for this
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>>675257713
OVENS
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>europe is a large, battle scarred bear, tempered by two thousand years of war
>has become exceedingly efficient at it
>hibernates for a few decades to rest after a particularly brutal fight
>wandering sandniggers come into the bear's cave, set up camp and decide to poke the bear to see if it's alive
>bear continues to sleep
>they keep poking it, harder
>the bear rolls over and grumbles, but continues to sleep
>they just keep poking it
>mfw the bear starts waking up
if you hail from a family of sand farmers, i suggest you leave europe. you're kidding yourself if you think we're dead. we're just sleepy.
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>>675258592
This.

Muslims won't stop until we're all dead or converted to their insanity. We're at war, whether we like it or not.
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>>675258442
Integration works, you just do not understand how it works. It's not "refuse your culture, accept mine". It's just respecting other people. It worked before, it works now if there's no crazy political party making profit off immigration fears.
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We need Trump now more than ever
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>>675258833
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>>675258592
how many muslims do you know? Like, personally.
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>>675258592
Dude. Really ?
It will take 3 or 4 generations for Arabs to not be muslim anymore. Shitloads of friends my age are not muslim because they're being influenced by our countries' culture and they're integrated. Islam pisses them of. Our country will not be islamized. They'll be europeanized.
We're social living beings before being religious ones.
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>>675255047
This
If we didn't fuck up the middle east, they wouldn't be pissed. Blame the US primarily.
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>>675257652
umm no u cant you actually have to pay a coyote also have a place ready in usa and purpose like a job ready

oh and btw u also have to be like invisible and not break the law maybe u didnt know that
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ITT
>B-b-butt muh human raghts

fuck muslims.
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>>675258692
>justice

hahhaahaha of fucking course. Nothing to do with the fact that everyone was fighting with everyone, lol. Fucking ignorant.
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>>675258828
We are accepting of their culture though, and look what people are getting in return for it? Paris attacks, Brussels bombings, Belgium rapes, the list goes on and on and on.

The point of being accepting of them is thinking that they will change, they are not changing and just want to turn the Western Countries that are taking them in back into a shithole like the fucked lands they come from.
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>>675258828
there wont be any integration. these people want total war between muslims and christians and the muslims will be the target for extermination.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-18519395
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West deserves these catastrophes. We are the first world who come to their country, we impose standards that are not legitimize its people spend their natural resources and benefit from it. And yet they are the bad guys? I am not in favor of terrorism, but I'm not in favor of being a parasite that goes to other countries to suck blood and other natural resources.
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>>675257565
We're losing our people to save their people.

And I'm not talking about a firefighter dying to save a child.

We save them, and in return, 1 out of every 100 of them KILLS some of us.

They all believe in the same bullshit fairy tales.

You cannot save lives at the cost of other lives. First of all, those people are worthless in the fact they're uneducated, and brainwashed with islam. They will never become functioning members of our society because they're too busy trying to enact sharia law and hooting and hollering at how we have actual laws in our country that protect people.
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>>675252979
>implying refuges did this and not radicalized belgians faggots
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>>675257927
Fuck off you dumb cunt you're a retard if you think any significant number of them are "refugees"
Absolutely none are legally refugees since they pass through safe countries to get to your welfare haven
Have fun sowing the seeds of the death of your society but we don't want whatever disease is causing you to do it
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>>675258589
Yes
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>>675259035
>implying it isn't a CIA organized false flag attack
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>>675258215
Duuude this is my Girlfriend...
She belongs to me now cripple
nigger give me back my stuff
did do nuffin...
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>>675255372
muslim fuck
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>>675259035
Holy shit why do you leftist cucks think second generation murdering people is somehow an argument for taking more in?
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>>675259023
we? its the regressive leftists cucks who keep supporting these war criminals and keep flooding our countries with crazy muslims
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>>675258372
Look, personally, I don't agree as much as other people with europe's free movement policy, I live in the UK and similar shit happens here... You can't just attribute this to the arabic people as a whole though.

I live in west London right now, and no jokes white english people make up about 5% of my university class. I'd say muslims make up >50%. Given a chance, they can integrate well and live lives just like any other person, but when they're demonized, and not given the chance to work because they're 'illegal' then of course ghetto's are going to form, and of course drug dealing and shit is going to happen as a result...
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>>675258901
nobody is forcing them to kill each other, stupid.
it's curds killing turks killing arabs killing jesides killing shiites killing sunnites getting killed by ... russians. oh- wait
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>>675258828
Even with all of that, arabs will just become as european as us all. They may not want to embrace our culture when they arrive, but their children will like it, and their children's children too, and so on.
This is just pure sociological tendency. This is integration.
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>>675257875
>recent refugees from a country known for terrorists
>bombing has nothing to do with them

This is when political correctness shows it's retarded, third ass.
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>>675259023
Kill yourself you fucking cuck
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>>675258803
Who are u talking to and why dont u realise this is 21st century and mankind is much weaker now and wont be as brutal as needed cuz civilization.
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>>675259178
Agreed. Pic related.
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>>675255047
/thread
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RELIGION OF PEACE AND TOLERANCE!!!!
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>>675255372
Don't lie you would suck him off just because
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>>675259126
it seems they all are to you people.
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>>675259003
>>675259017

These are terrorists. They're not all the immigrants. If you knew muslims in real life and stopped being such racists fucks, you'd know that they adapt. You'd know that, as >>675258891 says, young people are blending in. As I said before, it works when there're no people making profit off immigration fears. See http://www.dw.com/en/muslim-migrants-feel-at-home-in-spain/a-6115403

No racism -> integration -> everyone happy.
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>>675258592

They do the same thing everywhere they go
They've been doing it for over a thousand years

DEUS VULT
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>>675259187
fuck man all others do it otherway
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>>675252979
Why are people still saying that "it's only a tiny minority" who are extremists when it comes to muslims? Just take a look at the following short clip:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7TAAw3oQvg

In Sweden, a Dutch (I think) sociologist released a study last year where he looked into the attitudes of Turkish muslims who had been living in Sweden for a while, and came up with the following numbers. Keep in mind that Turkey is one of the most moderate muslim countries out there, so you can only imagine what the rest are like:

>43% don't want homosexuals as their friends
>37% think you can't trust jews
>52% think the West is out to destroy Islam
>43% think muslims should return to the roots of Islamic teachings
>67% think there is only one interpretation of the Quran
>52% think that religious laws are more important to follow than Swedish law.

It's not a tiny minority, it's an overwhelming majority. Not all of them are terrorists, but they are deeply unpleasant people that should not, under any circumstance, be allowed to set foot into the West.
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>>675259178
What they have to do here leftists? The problem is the fucking national pride, rightist policies (the Nazis) that look nothing more than for himself without thinking that we are in a globalized world that is impossible to do anything in a country without influencing other. You should think of global welfare, because we are a global society with different cultures, not the welfare of the first world.
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>>675258937
Then... why do so many of them break the law?

Some illiterate farmer from Honduras that walked 2000 miles to cross the border and owns nothing besides a plastic water jug didn't hire a fucking coyote. He just walked across.

Then he's here, but he's broke, and can't go home or get a legit job. So he works as a picker or he turns to crime.

This is why a wall is not effective on its own. We need effective border closure but we also need to build refugee camps on the Mexican side of the border so these people don't have to choose between "scale the wall" and "die".
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>>675258264
Yeah let's just make it piss easy for them, so they can just literally come in boats.

Are you a fucking dumb retard? Every single cell in my body knows terrorism has always existed because people are terrible.
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>>675258003
What? You just prove my point son &L2B8
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brussels is a headquarter for islamistic terrorists/radicals ever since. nothing since refugees. You condemn all muslims because terrorists actions ? you got muslim friends? they suddenly violent terrorists now?
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>>675259431
I've been beaten up and robbed my gangs of muslims. They are not integrated. Get your shit together
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>>675259214
no, second and third generation muslims are more radical then previous. the reason is because when they want to reconnect with their own roots they read the quran, when they read the quran they find out muhammed was a war criminal and that they have to be like muhammed to go to muslim paradise. then they are radicalized terrorists.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1540895/Young-British-Muslims-getting-more-radical.html
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>>675259431
I do and they don't
There is no significant hate towards the shitskins whites hates themselves more than anything
And it's funny - supposedly they keep killing us for being racist but no other non-white group is (besides niggers but they just kill more people in general)
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>>675259431
Did you read the response? 3 or 4 generations before they are not fucked in the head, I'm sorry but 50 years is way to long to wait for these sandniggers to stop raping, pillaging and bombing the very countries that are opening their arms for them.
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>>675259168
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>>675259578
>r
by*
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>>675259277
>implying "civilization" will survive if we don't purge the dune coons
I'm talking to everyone, even you, cuck.
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>>675259521
throw the chains of your globalist overlords
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>>675257757
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>>675252979
We're getting what we deserved. I'm only glad that I live in a shithole of Europe in a small city so they'll never strike here. But I'll sure be laughing and enjoying events like this
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>>675259350
Aristotle advocated a slave society. Would you like to be your fucking slave subordinate to Coca-Cola or some mega-company? If you do not want that, more tolerance and understanding is needed.
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>>675258375
Headgear causes violence?
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>>675259523
They can choose walk back or die
We aren't the world's daycare
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>>675259431
>you'd know that they adapt
Just like they're adapting in Sweden?
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>>675258486
Great. Now all their friends and family can get their own little house and it will be a nice hideout for all the Jihads.

They can rent places within the city and put 6 people in each room like coloured folk around the world always illegally do. Then when they're done their training, they just step outside of the door and they're already close enough to cause a hell of a ruckus.
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>>675257653
Underrated post
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>>675259758
You know they won't do that though, not when it's five miles to get over the border.

We gotta give them a viable alternative man. I'm not saying let them all in, I'm saying we need to couple humanitarian aid with border control, so they don't do desperate shit.
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>>675259785
Do you always get so worked up over hypothetical situations you thought up yourself?
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>>675258835
Only if you're a pants-wetting little faggot.
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Kill Muslim. Kill them all. They are a plague that needs to be exterminated
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>>675259538
It's piss easy even illegaly. But anyway, you have two choices :
Lets just make it piss easy, don't ostracise them and there will be less terrorists. Some will come, but we cant do shit bout that
OR
Let's ostracize them. They will still be able to come, not that easier, but there will also be more terrorists. That will come anyway and shit in our mouth.
Watchawant?
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>>675255047
Who fucking cares, you really want sandniggers to live next door? Any chance of getting rid of them should be taken.
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>>675258887
I KNEW 1 before he converted, after realizing Islam was all about killing.

But a good handful of the rest of them were constantly bitching about laws, vandalizing shit, stealing from white people, anything they could get away with.

I wouldn't even say I'm racist, I'm just scared of that 1/100 refugee who is going to blow something up.
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>>675259735
Tolerance to what? More government programs that keep the lower class dependant on the benefits they have and never to climb higher than the generation the preceded it? After generations and generations of poor values instilled in their poor children what "changes" do we see then? It's the same poor staying poor because they depend completely on the system.
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>>675259585
Some of them does. And obviously those are the one being mediatized. You're not being a media sheep, are you ?
I'm living with them. They're not being radicalized. Most of them are being integrated.
Also, what the fuck makes you think they wouldnt be as radical in their own country ? We'd still be the targets, and they'd still come easily, legally or not.
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>>675259589

>no significant hate towards the shitskins
>shitskins

You tell me that people do hate more south asians than muslims, for example? Come on. One of the reasons why other groups are not a bunchload of terrorists is because they're not ostracized. Of course, having a terrorist organization at home is the most important reason, but those wouldn't have power if the very own muslims didn't feel rejected.
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>>675259416
> you people
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>>675260059
Luckily Islam is a religion, not a race.

It's not racist to look at a religion that promotes violence and then assume some of its adherents will enact said violence.
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>>675259982
You have no clue what ostracism is, haven't you? Pretentious kiddies should just shut up and let the grownups do the talking
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>>675255372
Posting shitty bait doesn't require any intelligence, anon.
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>>675259253
Good argument. When you not know what to say and another is right only know insult? You're a fascist. A fagot, dicks sucks millionaires. A worker knows what it is to suffer and not know what to make ends meet by working 10 hours every day. What sucks is that douse always blame the weak, the person can change things and who causes disasters are powerful, not starving.
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>>675259773
just like they've done in Spain. Integration can work, but it requires effort.
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Sandnigger purge when?
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>>675260003
I dont have anything against Arabs. I'm living in Brussels and they don't bother me. I'm friends with some of them, muslims, half muslims, not muslims at all.
Also
>huh i dont want no sandnigger next to my door, better reject them so they come back to kill every of my friends, and then lets kill them all, yay!
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>>675256107

And if you look at American school shootings, a lot of the victims appear to be Americans.

Your point?
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>>675259506
They're right about the Jew part though
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>>675260114
>We'd still be the targets, and they'd still come easily, legally or not.
I agree, you make a strong argument for genocide.
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>>675258891
YOU are a social living being.

A person who has been indoctrinated to islam from a young age is not. They are a tool for islam.

If you were told to believe in christianity and follow all their guidelines as a child, you fucking did it, and you didn't question it. Even into adulthood you wouldn't question it until somebody more intelligent than you told you how fucking stupid you were.
But. Talking shit about Islam gets your lips cut off or some stupid shit, so an islamic wouldn't even want to THINK about that stuff unless he's going to get his ears chopped off for listening.

These people are being told to terrorize by their parents, who are tricked into thinking islam is peaceful. Some people get the message, some don't. The message is war.
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>>675258803
this guys got it right
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>>675259735
>Aristotle advocated a slave society.
Ad-hominem. If Aristotle said 1+1=2, would he be wrong because he advocated a slave society?
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>>675259910
When you do that though people do desperate shit to come and live in your camp
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>>675260156
Such argumentation. Am clueless right now.
Also, careful with those edges, you can be sure to rule anyone with that kind of thinking, go and change the world big boi!
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>>675259672
It is better to have national masters, no?
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>>675260118
yes, conspiracy theorists. You are all the same, it's always a false flag
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>>675260115
I mean, the terrorists are all pretty specific demographics. They're predominantly young, male, Arab sunni muslims. Most of them are first generation immigrants.

It's not ostracized or culture shock that radicalized them. They come to Europe ready to kill people. They're infiltrators. They're quite literally the soldiers of an enemy power sneaking into your country.
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>>675260228
They are zionists, even most jews think they're wacky asshats.
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>>675260215
Rejecting shitskins causes them to kill your friends
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>>675260268
I was told to believe in christianity. I'm laic.
One of my friends is an Imam's son. His father pissed him off so much he's an atheist right now.
Humans are social beings.
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>>675260335
Found the fed
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>>675252979
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>>675259672
It is better to have national overlords, no? And subjecting other countries
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>>675260228
...but they are white too?
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>>675260291
Think of it as a roach motel, stops them from coming into the US, keeps them in mexico.
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>>675260215
>hurr muslims are nice people really

That's what the muslims want you to believe.
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>>675258828
You're talking to the wrong person.

Muslims do not respect our country. Every step of the way they fight, bitching about how they can't drive over the speed limit, bitching about taxes, bitching about everything. Then they start trying to push Sharia law.

WE are not the ignorant people here.
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>>675260307
yes, just as your family loves you more then your neighbor your local government loves the people that elected them more then the globalists who are in opposition to local rule
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>>675260412
i can still read your thoughts, you gotta wrap the tinfoil tightly
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>>675257639
Thank you.
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>>675259578
5 represent all for you. you are traumatized. just saying. i was beaten up and robbed by a gang of europeans
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>>675260387
Fuck off shitskin
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>>675260215
Your logic is flawed
>I dont have anything against arabs
Neither did the ppl in the airport

and yes better reject them and kill them if they ever try to come back
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>>675252979
Mudslimes at it again....
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>>675259773
god you shut ins are fucking insecure.
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if a war happens, will you conscript?
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now, somebody please explain this shit to me. how comes noone gave a fuck when the same uneducated illierate muslims blew up the same ammount of people in turkey? i mean, here in romania we had little to zero news about the attacks in ankara, but now every news channel went ape shit.
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>>675260215
you are pathetic
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>>675260113
You think that by taking those programs away those people will magically become productive citizens? If so that's very naive.

Tackling poverty is a difficult issue that nobody has an easy answer for. But anyone with two brain cells knows that removing support systems is one of the worst things you can do. Because then you end up with Zimbabwe, or Somalia.
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>>675255047
You do realize their motives are religious, right?
They are attacking 'us', ie, Europe, because we are infidels, in their eyes. It has absolutely nothing to do with us antagonizing them, although we should, because
1. they are religious ergo, useless and dumb.
2. they are trying to enforce their dumbness on us
3. they have nothing to add to any developed country
4. fuck you you sorry excuse of nigger sub human.
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>>675260611
only if they promise total war, total victory and total genocide. no peace deals.
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>>675260273
Of course not, but he refers to a slave society. We are a slave society? No, therefore you can not bring that to today's society.
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>>675259945
>being this scared of someone actually killing Muslims so you have no one left to fuck your wife
You deserve to be killed in the streets with the Muslims
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>>675258174

And being a cringy edgelord doesn't make your insecurities justifiable arsenal for anyone who may have lost someone in a terrorist attack.

Get fucked
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>>675260611
conscription is forced, so yeah...
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>>675260611
This is a good question.

The US has 15 years of experience actively fighting radical muslims, both at home and abroad. There's a whole generation of American men who fought and killed over this.

Now it's happening to Europe. Time to man up and fight.
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>>675258244
Cancer
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>>675259431
Sorry dumbass, but gangs of muslims rob white people in my city in CANADA. CANADA!

A gang of 25-30 of them! Just walk up to some white guy on a bike and start beating the shit out of him.

I was being edgy with my friend and we had these fancy ass machetes on us, if it were only 5 of those shitskins, hooo boy.
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>>675259431
>young people are blending in.
I live in a german city that has 74% immigrants in contrast to natives, under the age of 18.

Of course, there are exceptions of young guys who are actually trying to fit in by educating themselves, but the majority is not. They're blatantly committing crimes. They're not even real muslims anymore, because they keep sinning and all they do is when something bad happens; It's the fault of my culture and upbringing! No it's not. They're intentionally mangling their own religion and culture to shape something entirely different that only suits their needs at the moment. They're given the oppertunity to integrate themselves, but they're not taking it - the opposite, they're trashing the places where the lectures happen.
I don't care if you think it's racist or not, but they're kafirs and athims who have no right to be welcomed when they have no respect for anyone.
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>>675260375

>they come to Europe ready to kill people
>they're soldiers, already radicalized

Indeed, they are. And, surprise, you would not stop radicalized people with the support of ISIS at the borders. They'd still be able to come and attack here.

This is not a thing that can be solved quickly and easily. The mess in the middle east will take a long time to be solved, and in the meanwhile it will be a boiling pot of radicalism. We have to work so it just doesn't keep growing and stop it from creating more problems in other countries. But just stopping immigration and turning our head the other side is not going to work.
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>>675260378
Of course they do, they wouldn't just say that to gain your trust
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The bombers were according to Russia, white males from Belarus, who went and trained with ISIS. Also they claim, Belgium had been notofied about them.

Yh the refugees are the problem.
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>>675260646
>in turkey
Belgium little more import than a fucking turkey. It's part of the civilized world.
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>>675260466

>bitching about how they can't drive over the speed limit
>bitching about taxes
>bitching about everything

Just like your regular 'muh freedoms' american then.
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>>675255047
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>>675260460
you serious or trolling? lol
muslims are all terrorists and killers
thats what terrorists want you to believe. and they are successful
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>>675260522
>em
I am not traumatized. I have muslim friends and that. But when you see cities like mine you see that they are not integrated. And I am not the only one, there were muslims beating up people every day at the gates of school. They even brought their relatives. I am not against them I just say they are far from being integrated
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>greentext
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>>675260603
About what? The overwhelming amount of rapes and crimes against Swedish women? About the refusal to learn and adopt the language? The complete and utter dependency on Swedish government benefits? Then yes.
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>>675255047
agreed
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>>675258833
>She's got tats
>Throw it in the trash
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>>675260504
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>>675260787
Effective border controls subsidized with EU funds would go a long way toward stopping it. Instead the euro zone let's little countries like Croatia pay for it all out of their tiny national budgets.
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>>675259744
Schools man.

What I'm saying is, that white kid ruined it for the rest of us, and now hats are banned.

But when muslims try to ruin it for the rest of us, all that happens is we white knight people.

Humans are so fucking fickle. The hat thing is a true story, but I made up the hijab fable.
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>>675260113
Tolerating other cultures, other ways of thinking, etc. Not only tolerate you have to work 8 hours a day for a very low salary to which you can not almost live.
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>>675257603
>How is it racist to blame it on islamic immigrant dindus, when islam is a religion and not a race
Exactly this.
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>>675260807
Bullshit I'm not even seeing confirmations they were Muslim yet.
> Belarus
You meant to say Chechnya? Belarus has practically 0 Muslims.

Even if it were it would still be the religion of peace which is what the welfare invaders are.
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>>675260905
still a small group represent all for you. go in another city or another country and look again and say a general statement like they are not integrated. :)
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For once im glad i live in Poland
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>>675259912
Yes actually. I have general anxeity disorder.

Ottawa is not that far away from me, and there was an ISIS related shooting there.

I am scared for my life every day because of my anxeity.
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>>675255720
>Normcore

Says it all...
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>>675261089
Exactly. I dont blame all arabs, just the muslims.
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>>675257237
Implying "native" Europeans aren't completely dominating rape statistics and have been since Europe.
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>>675260736
Cry moar, little girl.
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>>675255372
You just proved that this train of thought leads to being an epic fag thank you for that post of epic stupidity
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>>675260961
Mean world syndrome.

Go outside, talk to people, read some scientific studies.

The wiser and more educated you are the less alarmist you will be.
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>>675260650
>You think that by taking those programs away those people will magically become productive citizens?
The ones who don't want to work will migrate to other countries of government programs they can depend on. Source: Poland.

>But anyone with two brain cells knows that removing support systems is one of the worst things you can do.

And the same can be said by adding more government programs and increasing its benefits.
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>>675255047
>Group of people is killing in mass.
>Blame said group
>It is our fault they are killing in mass because we correctly assign blame to them.
>We are the ones killing in mass.

Yes your logic is flawless. Do not blame the people who are killing. It is not there fault. It is ours.

I would suck you off if I could.
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>>675261183
They aren't. Unless you're comparing it to countries that don't have rape stats since certain things we consider rape are perfectly legal or otherwise overlooked.
Since Europe what? You can't even finish your sentence because you don't have a point to begin with.
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>>675261183
Yes, crime exists.

The point is that rape, theft, and violent assaults go way up when you allow in a huge number of people who don't speak your language or respect your laws or people.
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>>675255774
You wouldn't survive an apocalypse.
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>>675259982
So your solution is to let them bomb us just a little bit? Nice.

You have a lot of faith in humanity, which is startling coming from this website, but this is not a solution to the problem. We're already being nice to these people, and it already is piss easy to legally come to the country, and look what's happening: TERRORIST ATTACKS! YAY!

Your stupid fucking plan is already in place retard, and IT'S NOT WORKING
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>>675261048
Well until a Muslim in a hijab tries to blow up your school you're just talking shit.
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>>675256195
Why? Explain your reasoning.
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>>675258692
except for fucking butchering Byzantium and the whole Eastern Roman world along with it, bringing along the massive influx of fucking turks. all because of western europe's greed.
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>>675256359
Explain your reasoning.
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>>675260779

>gangs of muslims rob white people

In my city a gang of white kids raped a girl. Another group of white fascist fucks beat up a gay couple. Yes, there will be crime, but you can't just blame a whole group for it.

By the way, what the fuck were you doing with machetes in the streets? Were you trying to kill some people like skinheads?
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>>675252979
>really eurofags
>pic related
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KILL
ALL
MUSLIMS

WHEREVER YOU SEE ONE
BEAT THEM
AND
KILL THEM
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>>675252979
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ilFbbk9jw4
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>>675261183
>>675261304
Or wait are you one of those 70 IQ retards who doesn't understand the simple concept of scaling for population size?
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>>675256592
you make no sense.
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>>675261133
Yeah, right xDxDxD
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>>675261202
>Go outside, talk to people, read some scientific studies.
>implying I don't.

Also, projecting scientific categorization of animals to human is racism.
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>>675258887
Not that anon but I know 9 of them personally. 2 are second generation the rest are fresh of the boat.

I've read the koran, Ive walked with these guys a day in thier lives.

I still don't trust them even after all that.

Go get to know your new neighbors, and maybe if you aren't an emotional child with all your nievity on display, you'll see the faint glimpse of the problem.

Until then, enjoy believing that they are just like us and they can intergrate.
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>>675260154
It's weird when I say "all muslims should be killed" people disagree and say some muslims are innocent.

What's innocent about being indoctrinated into what is basically a murder-suicide cult...?
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>>675256107
as we all know muslims never kill each other of kill indiscriminately nope, no at all
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>>675257005
So like 10% sounds much more reasonable terrorist acts and though come in many different forms
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>>675258634
>radical Islam
Islams stays Islam. They follow a fucking murderer. Jesus never killed anyone.
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>Systematic and organized, state sanctioned violence, coupled with devastating economic policies and unequal treaties and constant interference in brown people countries

this is fine

>brown people use clandestine means to kill a few white people who are accustomed to the violence only in far off lands

OMG HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN?

seriously people are you actually shocked? Wanna stop terrorists? Stop reacting. Their power doesn't come from the actual act of violence itself but your butt-hurt reactions. If you're going to unfairly dominate the globe for the benefit of your capitalist masters at least don't be a little bitch about it when they attack you back....

but oh wait.. stopping terrorism was never the objective was it?
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>>675261524
except bankers or do you not read the bible?
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>>675257108
Stats would disagree, Europe is about 2% Arab
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>>675261183
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>>675261202
See >>675259506

A majority of muslims are extremists. Studies confirm this. 35-40% of muslims in Great Britain though the attacks on Charlie Hebdo were justified and that killing innocent people is okay.

Go fuck yourself, you pig.
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>>675261580
Would have been more if the Umayyad Caliphate won.....that's a history lesson.
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>>675260769
kek
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>>675261068
>Tolerating other cultures, other ways of thinking
I can tolerate all of that, just not when it's imposed on my way of life. IE the strive of sharia law
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>>675261524
Jesus lived under the pax romana. he never needed to kill anyone.

Moses and others however did
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>>675261644
Cite your source of reference.
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>>675261202
> if you go out and talk to people that stops Sweden from being "the rape capital of the west"
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>>675257157
Yeah and an intelligent person attacks after being attacked or recognizes and attacker before hand and defends then after they have put the aggressor down start negotiations for peace
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>>675260405
You live in a first world country full of opportunities.

The only opportunity in these countries is Islam. To be a soldier for the glory of Allah and to live forever with your 72 virgins. That's all they know.

When you fully integrate into another country, and take their schooling, and accept their laws and all of that, there is more than just islam.

One thing you must realize is that adults do not go to school when they come here. They are given jobs by relatives and told how to do them. They break laws because they don't know, then they get mad they have to pay a fine. They teach their kids to hate the country just by sitting and complaining.

At this point, it's up to the child to decide by themself if they should believe their Father, who is basically their God according to Islam, or some fucking whiteys.
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>>675261546
Fucking kill yourself you cuck
You're the same type of fucking cuck who thinks we should interfere in other countries
Just end yourself
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>>675261495
Is this like... satire?

I'm not advocating killing anybody. I did my time over there in Iraq and Afghanistan. I don't want to kill anyone ever again unless I have to.

Most of them are innocent. They were raised in a fucked up system. But that doesn't mean we have to excuse them when they commit crimes.

Further, I think immigration should be controlled, and part of immigrating should be integrating into the host country's culture.
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>>675260842
Bad examples at 6am as usual. :)
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>>675259431
It says in the Qur'an that its fine to fool the infidels if it, in the end furthers Allah's wishes, you see when le fiction tells you to kill people, it's fine if mudslimes to do it but when Brits follow fiction and act like wizards from harry potter they're seen as jokes.
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>>675255047
sieg heil 88
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>>675259990
i fail to see what's wrong with this..
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>>675260611
I'm Canadian so I'd most likely end up being in peace corps doing first aid which is the only thing I can do.

There is a decent chance I would join. I am not doing anything, it's an easy to acquire job, and I'll need the money when war causes inflation. So yes. Probably.
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>>675257639
kek
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>>675260646
My condolences for your people, friend.

Keep hating on shitskins and people will begin to appreciate your country a little more.
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>>675261712
He didnt want to kill anyone, he wanted to liberate people from religious punishment. He was killed within 3 years of starting his tour of liberation.
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>>675261764
hahah

Nah m8. im saying if you're going to piss other countries off they're going to slap you back from time to time. talk shit get hit. It's all just part of life. just because you're accustomed to peace and love doesn't mean everyone gets to live that way.
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>>675261889
Bestiality isn't a sin in the Koran so no wonder. So says the prophet mohamhead
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>>675261698
Of course, but Arabs may think the same of us, right? And so they rebel. Would not you do the same?
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>>675260562
i reely hate this mudslime
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>>675258901
Yes. The Assad bombing his own people is entirely the fault of the US.
As was the Tunisians revolting against a totally corrupt government.
And liberating the Iraqis from an oppressive regime and rebuilding them to the point where they can defend themselves without US assistance? A total mistake, they should be allowed to suffer under corruption, that's their culture.
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>>675257713
Retarded people are the problem just look at these idiots I want world war so these weak stupid people can die
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>>675261248
>The ones who don't want to work will migrate to other countries of government programs they can depend on. Source: Poland.

Some might, the vast majority won't. They will sit there and die becoming a burden on the people in the community that do work.

>And the same can be said by adding more government programs and increasing its benefits.

No it can't, you can say that increasing benefits past a certain point has no net effect. But it doesn't make things worse, like your ideas.
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>>675260196
NOW!
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>>675261412
Like I said, just being edgy with a friend. Cutting branches off trees, showing them off to kids. etc.
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>>675260114
fuck you muslime in sheeps clothing
>your sentence format
>gives it away ?
fuck you
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>>675262028
You're a poof, m8, taking up the arse and in the mouth from a bunch of Pakis
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>>675262021
he didn't need to kill anyone. because he lived in a time and place that was relatively stable. Humans only live a short time. HE was fortunate enough to not need to fight for his tribes survival, or get drafted as an auxiliary for Rome.
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>>675258692
beyond fan fiction
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anyone reading the #brusselsattack on twitter?
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>>675261720
Ruud Koopmans study regarding Turkish muslims attitudes in Sweden:

https://www.google.se/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwj7l7SPi9TLAhXGQpoKHYPrA2oQFggjMAE&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.wzb.eu%2Fsites%2Fdefault%2Ffiles%2Fu6%2Fkoopmans_englisch_ed.pdf&usg=AFQjCNGT8JXyHLPsnD44H8iU-4OKrwYdHw&sig2=9jha_NoOIElBBrgVsC5big

PEW Research Center:

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/12/07/muslims-and-islam-key-findings-in-the-u-s-and-around-the-world/

Muslims in Britain and their views on Charlie Hebdo:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/11433776/Quarter-of-British-Muslims-sympathise-with-Charlie-Hebdo-terrorists.html

There you go, faggot.
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>>675262076
The Assad bombing was the fault of Jewhammed
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>>675261466
Clearly you don't if you think the broad genetic diversity of humans is comparable to the narrow genetic pools of conventional species like lions
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>>675260887
now i shall save this
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>>675262028
> if your government kills fucked up people in wars their countries you didn't approve of because you don't give a shit about them don't be surprised when their civilians who draining your country of resources kill your civilians, nevermind the fact that it's often things like cartoons provoking their attacks

I grew up around shitskins I'm not accustomed to love I'm accustomed for having to stick up for myself and not be a fucking cuck
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>>675262192
pfft. good job talking tough to a stranger on the internet.
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>>675262063
I wouldn't go to some other country and impose my way of thinking. If I had to live elsewhere, I'd know that assimilation works whereas multiculturalism fails. IE the melting pot theory (America: the industrial revolution)
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>>675258003
They do all you are proving is you are a smal minority of loud weak little bitches who are stoping society from moving forward and dealing with real problems and because we have to deal with idiots acting like spoiled children in Walmart crying because they didn't get a toy they wanted
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>>675261382
No more arguing.
It is time.
Kill them all.
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>>675262419
Watch gonna do about it, tough guy?
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Why are these threads being pruned?
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>>675262234
Muhammed wasnt drafted, he was married to a rich older woman and spent his days sitting in an underground cave thinking about murdering people when lucifer appeared and told him to seek out sinners and use his sword to send them to hell. Jesus wanted to liberate people from religious extremists and was ultimately killed by them. Muhammed was a religious extremist and a mortal enemy of christians.
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>>675261644
An unsorted figure with no base line comparison that refers to a subjective assessment.

See this is exactly what I was talking about.
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>>675259591
This. Controlled immigration is fine, they remain in a minority and are forced to adapt to the dominant culture overtime. Mass waves on the other hand will fuck things up in the short term and will allow them to keep their culture in large ghettos, the muslims now in europe will take far more than 4 generations to blend in, there'll be a culture war at this rate.
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>>675262302
>#brusselsattack
Who is David Vance and is he single?
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>>675261364
Well you're a dumbass for making no attempt whatsoever to understand the point I'm trying to make.

Let me make this as simple as possible for you.

When a white person "ruins" something, that something gets taken away and banned from white schools.

When a muslim person "ruins" something, a few people say "we should ban this" and then a bunch of people scream RACISM like little cunts, and nothing happens. Muslims continue to do the thing they were doing, and only a few intelligent people speak up, only to get slapped at by white knights.

Do you understand? White people can ruin something for the rest of us, but terrorists, related to muslims, can blow up a building, and still be allowed to freely come into the country because somebody is blowing up their country.

Fuck dude, like I am trying to come up with an example and you're just taking a couple words you don't like and twisting them.
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