Do you think it's possible this was faked?
The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood.
Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.
Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.
Do you think it's possible this was faked?
>>675053020
No.
>>675053020
I don't think it's possible that it was real.
>can't fathom how retards think we did this when we still regularly lose astronauts today some 50 years later
>>675053688
+no one ever was there since
>>675053688
>roll d20, get 20
>can't fathom how retards think we rolled 20 when we still regularly roll 1-19
>>675053020
It's possible. Not probable.
If you don't think that we faked the moon landing to prove that we were the most advanced country worldwide and to put the USSR to shame, you're slightly retarded and definitely brainwashed.
Just because Mythbusters proved it "busted," doesn't mean that it is. You really think they'd air an episode where they proved it fake? Everyone would have lost their shit.
>>675053688
>we still regularly lose astronauts today
>regularly
As if those concepts are linked. The Spaniards "regularly" lost sailors at sea. OBVIOUSLY, they couldn't have discovered America or the Straits of Magellan. The lizard people must have done it for them.
>>675053905
Lie.
>>675053020
No. The lazer reflection mirrors that the Apollo astronauts left behind are still there and are regularly used by scientists for lazer range finders to measure the rate of change of the distance between the Earth and the Moon.
>>675053020
its probable
had to show up the soviets somehow and the best thing the USA had going for it at the time was hollywood.
>>675053905
Because the Apollo program cost $150 billion and no country has had the political willpower to spend that kind of money on something that's already been done.
>>675053020
no man, it's real. i was there.
>>675054549
>implying they werent placed remotely
>>675053994
this. /thread
>>675054558
This motherfucker, right here.
>>675053688
People STILL die in car crashes does that mean cars are impossible? It was risky as fuck back then and still is today. How do you explain all the man made objects still sitting on the surface?
>>675053905
I'm sure we'd have hedonism resorts and clubs on the moon if people stopped spending trillions on pointless military shit.
>>675053020
I think it's possible that it was faked just extraordinarily improbable. I find it extremely improbable that the government faked the moon landing and nobody with knowledge of it has come forward. Furthermore, there's just no evidence that the moon landing was faked. Sure, there was motive the government to fake it, but without evidence it's just a nice story.
no.
>>675054932
>Pointless military shit
You dumb ass. It's the military shit that advances technology so we can do other things. The rocket technology we used to go to the moon was military originally. we need better rockets to fire our missiles, and that tech then got used for other shit. it's the same with the drones and robots the military are funding development for now. They'll be deployed on the battlefield then 10 or so years later the tech will be repurposed for more commercial uses.
>>675053020
No because the Soviets would call them out on it.
Sup. Meet Javiela, my fucking bitch of an ex. She fucks some nigger while her friends watched and I figured it all out. She liked to get in the ass and she has a really nice pussy. It's payback time. Here's some fuck videos we have https://mega.nz/#!GdgiRLAI!pcmfB60MhqSIiFLfcWGfY1p5Deort3Stu2h-Z82olvQ enjoy /b/ 5
reminds me of a two kids on the playground
>a soviet and an american kid
>both trying to the same cool thing
>soviet kid does it first
>american kid feels like a giant loser
>following week
>american kid and the AV club show the class the think the american kid did that was 100 times cooler than what the soviet kid did
>no one likes the soviet kid
>AV club is more than happy to "prove" soviet kid isnt so cool after all
Thousands of people witnessed the launches of the Saturn V rockets used in the Apollo missions, and the launches were broadcast live around the world. Those rockets cost $2.5 billion each. No one would waste that kind of money on a rocket launch unless they were actually planning to do something with it. You can fake the landing, but you can't fake the launch. Besides, building the Saturn V rockets was one of the biggest technical challenges of the Apollo missions. If they could accomplish that much and get the money to launch them, then landing on the Moon and getting back again isn't much more difficult.
>>675056255
>$2.5 billion
>>675056255
no one really argues the launches were faked. who knows if the apollo missions ever tried to make it to the moon or if they just hung out in orbit doing other scientific shit
>>675056610
>>675056610
Adjusted for inflation, obviously.
>>675056822
My point is that if they had the funding and technology to launch a rocket like that then they certainly had the technology to land on the Moon and get back to Earth. The launch weight of a Saturn V is about 7 million pounds, that's 20 times the weight of a Boeing 747.
Of course we were in a race to beat the commies
>not knowing this was another masterpiece by kubrick
>>675054354
Wouldn't the USSR have said something when they weren't able to track the spacecraft to the moon?
>>675058174
take men to the moon and back? thats a whole few levels more complexity than launching man into orbit.
its possible we did it, but its also possible we faked it and spend the $350 million lunar module budget on special effects and mail trucks
>Horizon about 100 feet away
>Shadows going every which way
>Space ship looks like a shitty movie prop
The fact that anyone still thinks it was real is the crazy part
>>675056170
Except, everything the soviets did, america did soon after. Then america did something the soviets never got close to doing. Then the soviets went bankrupt.
>>675060700
unless maybe the soviets did make it to the moon and placed nukes and have just kept their mouth shut about it
>>675058906
>take men to the moon and back? thats a whole few levels more complexity than launching man into orbit.
When you have a vehicle powerful enough to take a manned payload to the Moon, the rest isn't that difficult.
>>675060239
>motorcycle helmets in space
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlXG0REiVzE
Apollo photography proven fake by parallax technique. Cannot be debunked.
http://www.aulis.com/stereoparallax.htm
It was filmed by Stanley Kubrick
>>675061051
life support with 60's technology isnt that difficult?
>>675061416
They only needed to stay alive for a week. There were space stations in the 70s so it wasn't that big a leap.
>>675061244
See how the LEM's shadow goes almost to the horizon. See how close the horizon is? Where's the rest of the moon?
If the horizon was that close the moon would be like 2 miles wide.
>>675061502
actually, it sort of is.
i dont think we never made it to the moon, i just think the first couple missions were faked
>>675061811
You're an idiot.
The appeal of conspiracy theories is that it allows dumb people to feel smart by thinking they know something everyone else doesn't.
It's easier to believe in some bullshit that actually learn things.
>>675053020
Yes
/Thread
Fucking retarded conversation, we left shit there on the moon
>>675061918
exactly what i was thinking about you
>>675062141
you can't /thread you're own post fgt
>>675062217
Wow that's some amazing proof right there. Now I'm convinced.
>>675054832
And what the fuck would that matter? If you concede there really are man-made object on the moon, then why the fuck would you bother arguing for the OP?
>>675062556
So this picture does not constitute proof to you. Do you choose not to believe things you haven't personally seen? If that's the case, you shouldn't believe in a lot of things that you probably do. Am I telling you to accept every picture you view on the internet, not really. The evidence exists, it makes sense, the pictures corroborate. What is not sensible about accepting what is, by all accounts, the truth?
>>675063111
faggot
>>675063111
not who you replied to, but i do question anything i havent personally witnessed
>>675062217
>implying not faked as well
>>675063111
If I don't believe photos like the one in the OP, then why would I believe a picture like the one you posted, which would be unbelievably easy to fake?
>>675062801
Man made objects on the moon is the lamest argument for us going there. There's man made objects on other planets we haven't been. I don't think it's a hoax but that argument is crap and used as the absolute proof too much.
>>675053020
Nah bro
THIS shows why it was IMPOSSIBLE to fake the Moon Landing :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGXTF6bs1IU
>>675063489
Have you been to Egypt? If not, do you believe in Egypt?
>>675063896
I didn't post it, for the record. I don't even disagree with healthy skepticism. I just think there is a point that some people reach where proof is not attainable. In that event, what's the point of their skepticism? They can't trust anything,
>>675064101
How is it crap? How did it get there?
There are not enough high visibility vests on earth to get us to the moon these days.
>>675065203
Since this is more on a "logic argument" side, here is a video on the mathematical/physical side: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxZMjpMhwNE
You can't cheat mathematics.
>>675053020
I'm going to introduce you to a concept that I call 'conspiracy misdirection'. It's not synonymous with misinformation/disinformation, but it IS a type of misinformation/disinformation. Conspiracy misdirection is what happens when a conspiracy theory is propagated that is considered to be the truth about whatever that conspiracy theory is about, but actually is NOT the truth and hides an even GREATER conspiracy that is TRUE (and thus NOT a 'theory'). One of the MAJOR techniques that intelligence agencies such as the CIA, MI5, the Mossad, etc. use to deceive us is conspiracy misdirection, which is to make certain conspiracy theories popular in mainstream society that are used to push us further away from the truth. I'll give you an example: They'll tell us that the Apollo 11 Moon landing never happened, although I think that what most likely happened is that the Apollo 11 Moon landing not only happened, but they found more than they bargained for on the Moon like artifacts and ruins which CONFIRM that we are NOT alone in the universe. Eventually, we might have even been warned to never come back - which might explain why we've never gone back to the Moon since 1972. Even if we weren't warned to never return to the Moon, we DID land on the Moon and found WORKS OF INTELLIGENCE on it. I am UTTERLY CONVINCED that people on the NASA payroll are pushing the 'Moon hoax' conspiracy theory to push people further from the possibility that beings (possibly even ancient HUMAN beings) landed on the Moon a long time ago and built stuff there. The 'Moon hoax' theory might have even been CREATED by NASA employees. COME ON people, THINK. What do you think is the more paradigm-shattering secret?: The possibility that we DIDN'T land on the Moon or the possibility that we DID land on the Moon and found artificial stuff there? OBVIOUSLY it's the second possibility. (end of part 1)
>>675053351
>>675053501
morons
>>675053020
99% sure it was faked
>>675065674
(start of part 2) You see, the REAL reason why the second possibility is being hidden from us is NOT because a loving government wants to prevent mass panic (that's just the cover story), but because they want to prevent us from asking 'too many' questions. If it were confirmed that we DID land on the Moon and found artificial stuff there but were lied to about such a historic discovery, then people (and LOTS of them) WOULD ask more questions about what else they've been lied to about. They'd say "Well, they lied to us about that, so what ELSE have they lied to us about? The origin and history of the human species? The pharmaceutical industry? Free energy? The banking industry?" It opens the door to EVERYTHING. EVERYTHING. And THAT'S why the 'Moon hoax' theory is FIERCELY promoted, while most people have almost NEVER heard of that second possibility (and, more worryingly, probably haven't even THOUGHT ABOUT IT). Another example of conspiracy misdirection is the sudden popularity of the Flat Earth theory. The sudden popularity of the Flat Earth theory is a CIA psyop designed to divide and distract people from the TRUE nature of Earth, which is that Earth is HOLLOW. Earth's crust is about 800 miles thick and there is a 'sun' at Earth's centre (which is actually a nuclear fission reactor) which is about 650 miles in diameter and the distance between a dweller in the Inner Earth world and their inner central 'sun' is only about 2,900 miles. (end of part 2)
>>675065434
The same way we there's stuff on Mars. It would have been a hell of a lot easier to send an unmanned mission to the moon because they wouldn't have to worry about keeping people alive.
>>675065776
See >>675065598 and >>675064801
>>675058863
Actual /thread there is no reason for the USSR to not say something if for even a second they suspected it wasnt real
>>675065800
(start of part 3) Okay, this is a shorter version of what conspiracy misdirection is for people that don't like reading lots of text: Conspiracy misdirection is when a false conspiracy theory is used to hide a true conspiracy theory that has even more far-reaching implications than the false conspiracy theory. (end)
400,000 employees involved in the NASA Apollo missions. This figure doesn't include their families of friends.
in 50 years, not a SINGLE one of them has come forward to claim that any single part of it was a hoax.
>>675053688
checked, and it only needed to work once and that's when it did
>>675062217
nice photo of fuck all anon. great proof
>>675065840
How do you know what is involved in sustaining life in space? How do you know it's easier to send an unmanned mission?
>>675053020
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NAM3rIBG5k
Rammstein thinks its fake so thats cool with me.
Have a Coke and a smile, wherever you are OP
>>675063111
what gives you the right to pick and chose?
how does that even work?
surely you are confused
>>675065226
retard detected
>>675065944
>Anonymous 03/21/16(Mon)03:50:56 No.67506594n
shit logic is shit logic 0/10
how the fuck would they have know
>>675053020
You're one of those Americans who believes that Creationism is a valid theory for human development, aren't you?
>>675066193
What am I picking and choosing?
How does the process of picking and choosing work? Arbitrarily.
Surely, you make no sense.
>>675065598
13 seconds in and we have proof that this image is fake
>>675066179
WE'RE ALL LIVING IN AMERICA, COCA COLA SOMETIMES WAR
>>675065840
The moon missions were only 3 days there and 3 days back. Its not unfathomablely long. And its not hard to keep a human fed and breathing for 6 days. The nearest planet is months to years of space travel at the same speeds. Its one of the big hurdles to getting anywhere but the moon
>>675066248
If you don't believe things you haven't seen in person, and you haven't seen Egypt in person, then you should not believe in Egypt. I see no breakdown here.
>>675065944
thats poor logic on your part anon
>>675066105
You think it isn't? That's pretty stupid and is the exact sort of stupid argument which makes me feel justified in at least questioning what happened.
>>675066193
>am I telling you to accept every picture you view on the internet, not really.
pickky choosy
This thread is the dumbest fucking thing ive ever seen
>>675066321
Retard detected
>>675063111
there are many pictures that do not corroborate
some also are impossible
are you aware of any of these?
>>675066558
But if it wasn't\isn't possible then it doesn't matter how easy you think it would be.
In 50 years, not a single person can point to any piece of the NASA equipment and find a flaw with it. It all works exactly as intended. In fact, even today, NASA sources obsolete components on EBAY to refit Atlas rockets taken from Museums and launched today.
People who a "simple" enough to believe that the Moon Landings couldn't have taken place tend to be "people with gullible personalities who tend to be 'dismissive' today because they were made to look foolish in the past".
Translation: Moon Hoax Conspiracy Theorists are MORONS.
Gone With the Wind
>>675066584
I never said I didn't. You simply didn't answer me.
How do you know it's easier to send an unmanned mission, and how do you know anything as it relates to sustaining life in space?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NAM3rIBG5k
WE'RE ALL LIVING IN AMERIKA, COCA COLA WONDER BRA
>Implying Rammstein didn't nail it.
>>675053020
Do you think it's possible you don't actually exist?
>>675063111
>So this picture does not constitute proof to you. Do you choose not to believe things you haven't personally seen? If that's the case, you shouldn't believe in a lot of things that you probably do. Am I telling you to accept every picture you view on the internet, not really. The evidence exists, it makes sense, the pictures corroborate. What is not sensible about accepting what is, by all accounts, the truth?
You only need 1 picture to show that not ALL photographs from the moon happened on the moon.
Just like in math, you can disprove something is universally true with just one counter example.
I'm a scientist, and I'm convinced by this photo. It does not men we did not go to the moon, but it says something about that particular photograph.
>>675065226
being this literal
>witnessed
you are a confirmed faggot.
Yes. Many thousands of people kept something a secret. Totally legit.
Is no one else going to mention that the USSR was monitoring this mission harder than an exposed nipple in an ice storm? If they smelt anything even remotely fishy they would have used it to absolutely DESTROY the US's credibulity on the world stage
>>675065203
when does this idiot get to the point?
timestamp please
>>675053688
Retard
>>675066872
I know lots about sustaining life in space. You need everything in space you need on earth and it costs a lot of money to stuff all that in a rocket and get it into space.
>>675066570
are you actually 14?
its a terrible analogy, GTFO
>>675066792
So, are you only willing to trust the pictures that do not corroborate? Or are you just trying to prove to me that I am not justified in my argument?
If I make a macaroni painting of space, as I understand it, surely it will not corroborate.
The contrary is true for a scientific portrayal of space. It will corroborate.
If you have evidence to make me think otherwise, I would welcome it.
>>675067378
GG man. You fought valiantly. I respect the attempt.
>>675053688
Good bait m8 r8 8/8
>>675053020
No. Reality is a conspiracy to make dumb people look bad. It was intentionally designed to be hard to understand by people with brain-damage, like moonlanding hoax tards.
>>675060700
Soviets were the first to have a manned craft orbit the earth and had a cosmonaut leave the vessel.
>USSR got to space first
>USA freaked out and got to moon first
If the moon landing was fake why do we know it has oxygen on it you fucktards?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NAM3rIBG5k
>>675067378
>You need everything in space you need on earth and it costs a lot of money to stuff all that in a rocket and get it into space.
If only Nasa had a huge budget and lots of clever people working for them.
>>675067404
likewise... I'm just saying i have been made aware of impossible photos from the moon landing
for me, these are better proof of some trickery in evolved or possibly not going at all then the weaklings stance of ok, yes we definitely went even though a lot of this doesn't make any sense.
Moon hoaxers are always extremely confident, and extremely ignorant of what they're criticising.
At first I thought it was weird that they were mostly American, but when you factor in how dumb the average American seems to be, even in 2016 (see Trump), it's no surprise. Trump is the posterchild for confident and ill informed American, and he's having a lot of political success.
Moon hoaxers theories and explanations are literally more outlandish and more unlikely than a man walking on the fucking moon.
Literally.
>>675067605
Soviets were *first* to do things
Americas were the *only* ones to go to the Moon.
>>675067619
ha i knew it was you!!1
>egypt
>macaroni paintings
whatever next!!!!!!
>>675053020
Is it possible? Yes ofc
Was it faked? Meh, I doubt it.
>>675067729
Where are these impossible photos, and what makes them more credible, or even AS credible, as photographic evidence of the moon landing?
>>675067605
No, the USA had the first man in space. Don't you remember?
First they sent a dog, then a monkey, then a Russian, then a man.
>>675067683
That makes no difference to the argument. It's kind of changing the subject actually. Maybe you know deep down you don't really know for sure either.
>>67505302
Einstein did NOT invent gravity.
>>675055567
You dumb fuck. All those things could be created without first having the purpose to kill a man. I'm guessing you're murrican
>>675067866
ha you got that wrong.
its literally ONLY america that thinks you went to the moon. LOL
>>675061244
>http://www.aulis.com/stereoparallax.htm
Published by a RUSSIAN. In RUSSIAN.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
>>675053688
>regurarly
In 60 years of human spaceflight there were 4 fatal accidents; 1967 - Soyuz 1, 1971 - Soyuz 11, 1986 - Challenger, 2003 - Columbia.
Aircraft has been around longer and we have several crashes per year. Does that mean aircraft is fake?
>>675068016
Correct. If anything, the space race was funded because they wanted military off-shoots.
>>675067950
Glorious
>>675067989
>either
>mfw you just fucked on yourself
unsure, are we? KEK
>>675054558
Why did Russia not call them out on their hoax then?
Can you guess where moon hoaxers fall on this graph?
>>675067942
they are plastered all over the internet, if you are genuinely interested Id get looking for them.
my favourite examples are of the mountain that is only ever sometimes in the same spot. lol
im not trying to change your opinion but as i said before
the evidence for not going for me at least, is way stronger than the drivel they cite for going
>>675065598
after the first video this seems stupid
And yeah you can cheat math if themath is wrong
>>675054354
OPEN YOUR EYES ! OPEN YOUR EYES !
YOU RE BRAINWASHED BY BOOKS
NO ARGUMENTS ! NO ARGUMENTS !
all these noisy little sluts too lazy to open a book...
Honestly, what difference does it make either way? How in any way would your life be any different if the moon landing was infact faked?
>>675068122
??? Not being sure is my point if you kept up with my post.
>>675065203
yeah this is trash... sorry.
It's not fake
For those of you who argue it was, then how did this movie get filmed?
>>675068401
Good point
>>675068071
That only proved the images were real.. We know the images are real.
But who's to say it wasn't shot in the Sahara desert?
>>675066767
>http://www.aulis.com/stereoparallax.htm
this
>>675068222
And you still have yet to cite any evidence or drivel. I'll admit; it's really easy for me here. I just have to believe in science and videos.
If you want to go ahead and say what I believe is wrong, you should provide evidence of that. It seems like you can't. And if you think you can, but you can't, that makes you delusional.
Don't get me wrong, I have a degree of delusion too. For I, in lieu of being on the moon, trust science and photography. What is it that you trust that so invalidates those things?
Please show us the anti-photographic evidence along with any sort of falsification of what I know to be true. Just do it, if it's that simple and readily available.
Surely you would be better at illustrating how this conspiracy unfolds than I at the whim of Google.
>>675068504
sorry i meant this thread is fuck dunno how the link went there
Sorry Hoaxers... the Moon Landings were proven to have occurred using modern 3D modelling and lighting techniques.
http://www.cnet.com/news/nvidias-new-gpu-sinks-moon-landing-hoax-using-virtual-light/
>>675066767
probably because you japanese cartoons for pedophiles
its a natural response
just turn 360
>>675068332
I guess I kept up with it, then.
You're unsure of yourself?
How do you expect anyone to take you seriously when you're basically telling everyone your opinion is ill-informed?
Unless, of course, you're not on either side, which I could get on board with, I guess..
>>675066858
Yup
>>675067216
Nope to busy being fucking retarded
There's some loud nigger music coming from a car in my street guys. Trips decide what happens.
>>675068542
>I just have to believe
ok mate, good luck with that.
thats my point, I'm not a believer I'm afraid.
id rather look at it all and lean towards one side
you on the other hand are hell bent on belief and thats why your mind has now closed...
like i said, if you are interested, there is a world of research out there for you.
its not my job to post pictures on 4 chan for you or others just to call me a faggot
this is a gross waste of every ones time
the government lies FACT
you shouldn't give them such an easy time friend
also you have yet to do the same for me
are you aware of that?
>>675068862
curb bite
>>675065878
I love you.
>>675068862
Roll a cherry bomb under it.
>>675068862
make them into a dank meme
>>675068996
God honestly just stop.You are dumb and it looks like you'll always be dumb
>>675069273
great response 10/10
not as dumb as you it seems
>>675069168
Why?
>>675069351
Not him but are you 12 or something? Youre making an ass out of yourself buddy
>>675068996
I have failed, for in the moment, choosing my words poorly.
You don't know what I think or believe. You should only know my stance on reason at this point.
It's not your job to inform people, but then, why are you here? If you believe something, and aim to assert it, you should provide evidence.
If you don't. You ARE a faggot.
I don't need to provide evidence. That's the beauty of my point. You aim to disprove, and I aim to believe that which is reasonable. The burden of proof is on you, friend.
>>675068749
I think people went to the moon and I couldn't care less that they did. I just find it interesting how some people are so insistent on it that they will put forward absolute proof which isn't absolute proof at all and berate people for questioning it. For me it's about questioning "common sense" because in my experience it's often wrong.
>>675069445
>also you have yet to do the same for me
fuck your burden of proof
you have not proved anything as of yet for the burden to be mine alone.. sorry.
>>675054898
That movie should be made!
>>675069421
really?
>>675065800
>Earth's centre (which is actually a nuclear fission reactor)
I laughed hard as fuck here also you need help
>>675053020
COCA COLA, SOMETIMES WAR
>>675069621
I guess I did misunderstand you, then. I'm all for healthy skepticism, dude. My apologies.
>>675069777
Look man just stop. It's obvious you are retarded and you're just making it worse
>>675069777
You have a mountain of evidence and data that contradicts your belief. If you want anyone to take you seriously when YOU contradict that mountain, you had better have something substantial. That's it, dude. Start citing or start cutting, IMO.
>watch me get really edgy up in this thing
>awww yeahhh
>>675070244
how about you go back to where ever you came from... let people talk.
if all you can do is tell me to stop and call me retarded then you really have nothing to offer do you? go away or join in kiddo
>>675053020
possible? It was absolutely faked
>>675065800
rofl at this part, i was reading with interest at first but man you just had to make the earth hollow and place a sun inside it, do you even know how a sun works faggot? we'd be fucking dead if you're right a billion years before our inception, faggot
>>675070347
ok sure. I'm not that bothered to be honest...
i mean realistically this thread will 404 before i could even get going...
i dont know if we went
i dont think we did
seen to much shit for it to be a concrete answer
was just here to say that really...
hope you can respect that.
>>675070376
lol
>>675068996
>>>/x/
go back to your containment board where logic and evidence are irrelevant
>>675070670
thats what i though you fucking teenager
now fuck off
>>675070645
>seen more than my fair share of paranoid ramblings on YouTube
>concrete evidence
Uh huh
>>675070816
did i say that though? no
>>675070645
I could respect it if you'd just show me something to respect! I'm serious! I'm totally willing to think critically about things which I have not experienced personally. Please, for the love of (kek) God, show us something concrete!
>>675070790
I just can't even. You're hilarÃous
>>675070816
Your so assmad at a stranger on the internet right now hahahahahah
>>675070107
That's fine, good even. Gave me a chance to say something I felt was worth saying.
>>675070936
i aint falling for this b8 unfortuneatly
like i said nearly 10 times now
i dont have any concrete evidence for the moon landings but because of what i have seen id be a fool to just flat out say that we went
thats my point
u can look it all up for yourself if you are genuine in saying you want to think critically.
id love it if they did go but my doubts have not been satisfied as of yet... why should this be a problem? i think its a healthy stance
>>675070945
desperately trying to join in but has nothing to say
procceeds to act like a meme because I'm a 14 year old cancer victim
sounds about right. go and read a book kid
you are already to stupid to be spending this much time on the internet.
>>675071245
Is it emotionally taxing to type the same thing in different ways umpteen times? I'm just kidding. I know the answer.
You don't have any concrete evidence for the moon landings? What a surprise. Perhaps you could elaborate on your idea that we would be fools to suppose we went? (Don't worry, I know you won't do that).
I CAN look it up all myself, and so can you. I'm wondering how you arrived at your conclusion without looking things up, though. Because, obviously, looking it up is a flawed method. Or is it?
Why would you love it if they did go, anyway? Personally, I don't give a rat's ass if a man's foot has stepped on lunar rock. However, I have no reason to doubt that a man's foot did, in fact, step on lunar rock, unless you give me one.
Seriously.
It was fake, it was real, no reason to argue, go to your nearest university or observatory and beg to see the moon or tell them you need proof we landed on the moon and you think its a hoax, most who work in these places get really angry at that shit, get the target points from google, look with your own eyes, if the evidence is on the moon it was true, if it was not, it was fake, easy peasy, i borrowed a friends telescope, not very high tech but could make out some shit on the moon, no planetary size observatories here so had to do with that, i'm half convinced till i can get a better view, ur all faggots arguing in a faggot thread
>>675053020
Of course it's possible. I do not believe it WAS, because getting to the moon and back isn't really THAT much more complicated mathematically or logistically than getting outside of orbit, but that's another ballgame.
The reason we haven't gone back in 30 years is because that rock is fucking worthless and it's not worth the extra expense or risk of doing so. Even if we start thinking "Hm, we should check out the moon again" it's way easier to just send a rover.
>>675071723
"The flag on the moon is 125cm (4 feet) long. You would require a telescope around 200 meters in diameter to see it. The largest telescope now is the Keck Telescope in Hawaii at 10 meters in diameter. Even the Hubble Space telescope is only 2.4 meters in diameter." -Google
>>675071611
ok well you are no fun at all then are you.
i dont think you can be 100% sure
but where as i admit this you can't!
too proud as an emrican perhaps i dont know
how do u know we went? u dont - simple.
thats all i was trying to say.
>>675071903
wasn't talking about the fucking flag or the footprints faggot, there were actually bigger things that they left behind
>>675072058
i think what he said still applies to some degree
>>675071952
I admit, I'm not generally fun, but as of our conversation, you have no reason to not believe in the moon landing.
I wouldn't argue that anyone could be 100% sure of anything, friend. I would argue that the evidence is heavily in favor of us having been.
Whether or not that is a conspiracy is up in the air. Consider where you are drawing your conclusions from, and please feel free to share them with us.
How do I know we went? I don't. Simple.
How do you know we didn't? You don't.
How have you provided anyone with any reason to believe you? You haven't.
Do you see the problem here?
>>675071611
also its your duty to doubt and thats why I'm am saddened by people like you.
its your fucking duty bro.
>>675072058
What did you see, then? With your friend's super telescope?
>>675072058
where did you see it from? as in what place on our planet? this is important son
>>675072521
I think you misunderstand me. Sorry about that. I disagree that it is anyone's duty to doubt. I am a proponent of religious beliefs and the like.
The reason I am here, asking these questions, being a dickhead, and creating friction is for the very reason you are saddened.
Can you not tell my position? Then, good. I am for the opposite side. I hope you are more depressed by the words of others in this thread than my own.
>>675072496
i could literally quote you and it would apply here.
your evidence is not good enough for me
but good enough for you.. why is that?
i admit i am not the smartest person on the planet but we have both surely seen the same evidence...
its a matter of thinking and what you have known previously... I'm not a trusting person and because as you said neither of us can know for certain, i feel its much safer to say i think its unlikely than yeah sure we went we definitely went which lets face it most of the world is more than happy to do.
i think thats weak... i just really want to know the truth
>>675072880
>I am a proponent of religious beliefs and the like
Just stop right there
Danny says yes
>>675072880
I am, this is true. i have enjoyed talking with you but i stick by my words...
its a duty of our species to doubt what we are told
>>675072924
Excuse me for a moment as I act like a child...
You are definitely not the smartest person on the planet.
Okay, that's done. Now, for the love of some greater power, show me that which has caused you to doubt.
Have we seen the same evidence? Why have I arrived at a different conclusion. PLEASE show me the error of my ways.
I did say neither of us could know for certain, since we have not been to space, but you have not, in all this thread's entirety, shown me anything that would change my mind.
Surely there has to be one condemning piece that lead you to change yours. Start there? Start anywhere? Start with not this circular arguing.
Should I call it arguing? I don't even know anymore. I started this off believing I was not being trolled, or even that I was okay with being trolled.... I think I am actually past that point now, and I should offer you congratulations.
>>675073009
If you are intolerant of religion than you are a bigot. Do with that as you will.
>>675053020
If you honestly still think was faked and you're no longer in highschool you're a fucking idiot. No really, a fucking idiot.
>>675073653
Holy shit. Best reply N/A. Worth my time 10/10. GG anon. Take care. I'm actually being genuine. That made my night.
>>675061545
So you think that surfaced a flat and there is no possible way the curving of the surface could produce shadows that face in different ways?
You can even see a slight bump where that stuff is standing on.
>>675053020
china went to the moon too
>>675053020
China India and Japan have confirmed the sites are on the moon
http://global.jaxa.jp/press/2008/05/20080520_kaguya_e.html
Also google lunar prize and a Russian crowd funded mission will prove it more.
But conspericy theorists live in a closed world constructed by their mind so no amount or evidence, argument, or discussion will change their opinion so let them belive it was faked.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third-party_evidence_for_Apollo_Moon_landings
shouldn't the earth appear much larger in the sky?
it looks the same size as the moon does to us and surely this is impossible or am i just flat out wrong
>good chance of the later
please advise...
I believe the moon landing happened because to me it makes sense. Im convinced by the footage and pictures, and i dont bother questioning it. Does that make me gullible? Maybe. Is it fake? Its possible i suppose. To me it just isnt important enough and i dont know enough to say difinitively wheither or not it happened. Im no expert, just a guy with no special access to information and more personally important things to worry about.
>Inb4 gullible faggot
>Inb4 hows the koolaid taste?
>>675053020
Yes
>>675074129
>>675073384
You sure want to be smart, don't you? Well a little heads up:
No matter where you read that line, adopting it in real life is a bad idea. Being tolerant of religion, which is nothing but socially accepted cults, is a bad idea. I shouldn't have to explain why.
What you should be accepting of is the individuals within that beliefsystem, for they could have been drawn there through traumatic experiences or just simply a learned behaviour. In whichever case they do not deserve to be scorned for it. That's the part of religion you should be tolerant about.
Feel free to quote me as you quote others, only this time do it right.
>>675060239
China India and Japan detected the landing sites
Remember kids NASA is not the only space program that operates builds and launches spacecraft.
>>675074215
surely the earth should look two or three times the size it does in this 'photo'
Other countries have spotted the now white flag and lander on the moon.
>>675074296
Why does it have to be a white flag? That's racist.
>>675074157
i can respect that. thats an ok point of view in my book.
>>675074296
What is a "other countries"?
>>675065877
Unless they both faked large parts of it.
>>675074296
Oh but that dosnt count as evidence by conspericy theorists.
The fact the moon landings have been independently verified by other countries multiple times can be explained with the ilurminurty, Jews and magic
Also private non government space flight dosnt count as evidence.
http://www.popularmechanics.com/space/moon-mars/a17778/russian-blogger-crowdfunding-moon-hoax-buster/
http://lunar.xprize.org/
>>675067632
Because since the fake moon landing .. We've been to the moon. Fuckrar!
>>675074501
And flew the stuff to the moon, made fake tracks and placed all the stuff where it's supposed to be do when other countries sent stuff to map the moon they detected the landing sites.
Makes perfect sense.
>>675074129
>>675074215
>>675074283
anyone? anyone at all? dont leave me hanging /bros
>>675074501
OMG WHAT IF THE USSR NEVER EXISTED IN THE FIRST PLACE? USA FAKED IT TO GET A WIN!!!!!!
>>675074793
THE EARTH ISN'T REAL HUMANS ARE A HOAX!
>>675053020
They were going to fake it, but found out it would have cost 150 billion dollars for all the special effects. So plan B was to send actors and a film crew to the moon. Which would have cost 50 billion. However the Vietnam war was on and they didn't have money even for that. So they punted and sent some air force test pilots with home movie cameras to the moon for 20 billion.
>>675074730
Noone answers you cause noone knows. Inception.
>>675074945
it should be obvious
why does no one know?
>>675074730
It's a photo. It actually is showing a large earth. Try taking a photo of the moon and see how small it looks.
>>675074847
OMG YOU'RE RIGHT! This is why we need to "sleep" that time is used to implant the fake memories we will "create" the next day.
We are onto something here.
>>675053020
Yes, there is no atmosphere on the moon. So why can't we see any stars on the background?
>>675075052
Why don't you?
>>675075130
yeah but the moon is significantly smaller
surely if you swap places the earth should look much much bigger than what is shown here...
like i said i might be wrong but it looks to small
>>675069794
oh my god...retarded/10
>>675075214
Bait i hope. Since it has to do with light not fucking atmosphere
>>675074280
Kids remember that NASA is not the only space program that builds and launches spacecraft.
>>675075253
im genuinely retarded. I'm here to ask questions
>>675053994
Best analogy
>>675071903
They left the whole bottom part of the LM on the moon fucktard.
>>675075392
Well I would answer but the thing is, I haven't been to the moon so I really can't tell you.
>>675075537
fair play.. worth considering i thought. thanks for your help
>>675075277
Like I said, it's a photo which looks different from our perceptions for many reasons. I guarantee if you use the same camera to take a photo of the moon from earth it will appear proportionately smaller than earth from the moon in these photos.
>>675074089
A conspiracy is never debunked, the conspiracy only gets bigger and more and more people are involved.
>inb4 America asked those countries to edit their pictures to show the landing sites
>>675075697
id like to see this proved one day. thanks for your take on it though..
>>675074730
>judging size and depth by a photograph taken in space
Good job you debunked the whole moon landings.
>>675075724
yeah if space is a hoax then its global
there is 0 chance that countries are in compassion with each other
same with the flat earth and such
it has to be global or it won't work so all the talk of other countries grasing each other up is nonsense either way. they in it together OR is all nonsense
>>675074906
Kek
>>675075920
its a valid point
common sense dictates that the earth should appear larger to what we are used to seeing of the moon
which we dont. i thought it seemed odd and was trying to get some opinions on it. that is all
Why would they fake it when they had a giant moon rocket capable of putting 140 metric tons into low Earth orbit?
>>675075277
>I don't think the earth should be that small in the picture because reasons.
Argument from incredulity
>>675053020
Very possible
Staged bs after 1955
>>675076195
i gave you my reasons you rude little retard. fuck outta here if you can't talk like a normal person
you just gonna meme your way through life i suppose?
>>675074402
Because you're a nigger
>>675053020
Of course it's not faked it's me in the suit & I know I was moonwalking with some faggot called Micheal Jackson & a chimp called bubbles who this Jackson faggot had to fuck for science purposes
I'll be that in the 1960s that nobody envisioned that the Future would be populated by absolute imbeciles. Except for the kid in the lower right.
>>675076138
Have you ever taken a picture of the moon?
It looks WAY smaller than what you would see with the naked eye. What you're saying is you think that picture is off because YOU think the earth should appear bigger. It's a non valid argument that means nothing. It's an argument from your own incredulity
>>675076388
Lol get mad bruh
>>675076590
thank you. i appreciate it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J002E3
My theory is that everything the white man has accomplished has to be denigrated and belittled. We live in that sort of age.
I don't think it was faked and i still look at it as confirmation that the white man is godlike.
Well done white USA.
>>675076822
are we kill?
>>675076822
Lol did that almost fuck us right back in the ass
At the time it was harder to fake it than to actually go to the moon. Go watch specialeffects in movies from the 60's and youll see what i mean.
>>675076739
I've been mad for 14 years
>>675077051
yeah coz 2001 looked like shit
>>675076962
Nah it's just part of the Apollo rocket almost crashing back on earth at ball busting speed
>>675077042
It's just the jettisoned third stage of the rocket, it would burn up in the atmosphere if it re-entered.
>>675077326
Came in pretty fast tho
>>675065226
Please tell me you're only pretending to be retarded.
>>675070523
this. lost me at hollow earth.
>>675077400
Yes, but the faster it's going when it hits the atmosphere, the hotter it will burn.
>>675076822
What's that L1 thing?
>>675074283
Next time the moon is out near the horizon, snap a photo
Examine the photo you take
Compare it to this one
>>675074215
You'll see that Earth is easily 3-4 times larger in the picture, and only 60-70% of it is visible, making it approx. 6 times larger, the correct size
>>675077326
Smooshed into the mooooooon
>>675077674
meh... I'm looking at doggers now >>675072684
Footprints are still visible from Lunar Orbit.
>>675053020
Do the math. It works. Even if they didn't actually pull it off back then, it is still within the realm of possibility.
And because I am not a retarded shitlord, I can see the pics/video of it all it and concede that yes, it did in fact happen. Successfully hoaxing the whole thing would be more difficult than doing the actual landing itself.
>>675076822
checked and neat
>>675062556
>>675062217
>>675063657
>>675066043
This photo was taken by the Chinese. Do you guys even know what the radiation belt is?
All of them
>>675077550
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lagrangian_point
>>675053688
>>675053994
It's more like the lost astronauts were crit fails. 2-20 are our normal space operations.
>>675077828
And that's what's wrong with world
>I don't believe it!
>Here's some evidence to convince you
>Too late, I'm distracted now
Apollo 12 landing site today
>>675078093
i was only pulling your leg.. thanks for your response. it was convincing and made sense
>>675078130
It also all matches up with the surface photos.
>>675078295
>>675053020
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1992167/
You're welcome.
>>675078380
>>675078093
>not knowing space and stars are fake and that it's actually created by the government to fool us
>>675078054
Thanks! Interesting stuff
>>675078668
This is litterally what mood landing denyers sound like.
Reminder that light pollution ruins everything.
>>675078668
How can space be real if our eyes can't jet fuel to melt steal beams?
>>675054397
>being cucked this hard
take a red pill, bro. the illuminati helped the chinese find the americas first
>>675079076
even my childhood
>>675078811
>mood landing denyers
