What are the pros and cons of getting married?
no bitter desperate salty virgins in this thread. Only experienced relationship-havers please.
>>674782574
>Only experienced relationship-havers please.
>>674782574
tax-deductible
>>674782574
What's your story, OP?
>>674782574
pro's
>tax exemptions
>your parents will probably be really happy
>probably a good idea if you plan on having kids
>you'll feel really grown up
cons
>won't actually make your relationship any stronger but will put more pressure on you to pretend it is
>you will still inevitably break up but now she'll get half your stuff
>weddings are expensive as fuck
>you'll feel old as shit
In the west? There is no good reason. Marriage is so far removed from what it was and should (and could) be. Instead, it's just a trap. Women use marriage as a tool to keep you in line while she does anything she wants.
prenuptial agreement? sorry, judges throw those out when they feel the terms are "unfair".
>>674785726
I'm glad my western country is still not in the west.
>>674782574
Pro:
- have someone
- No more risk of STDs
- Some sex
- possibly more income
- possibly have someone to help with tasks
Cons
- one pussy for life if faithful
- sex stops being fun
- sex stops
- more expenses
- sex stops
- become bitter
- now have live in roommate who will take half your stuff if you have kids and get devoiced
>Married 11 years, 2 awesome kids, 30 years old
if there's any doubt in your mind, don't fucking do it!!!!!
>>674786213
This
JUST
JUST
JUST FUCK MY SHIT UP
WATCH OUT FOR THAT ALIMONY
>>674786014
My wife and I have some friends to swing with.
Sex was never so much fun.
>>674786014
You have all your pros with most kinds of committed relationships, like a girlfriend
>>674786554
That guy looks like a distant cousin of Jacknife.
>>674782574
PRO's
>Honeymoon stage kicks butt
>If they're responsible they can be a second income
>Someone helps clean and cook
>Family is happy that you have a life
>Often lots of sexy times at least early on
>Maturity
>Lots of couples looking for other couples for friends
CON's
>It only takes one fucking moron to seduce her away
>When said happens she can rob you dry
>No going back easily without paying out a fuck ton of money
>Kids (yes a con)
>Extra responsibility
>Extra sickness because he/she will share theirs
>Extra person to nag at your laziness
>Having to share your bathroom with someone else
>All the shit they put in the shower
Would not get married again. Happily single after some fucker stole my girl... but that's ok she was a bitch anyway.
>>674782574
pros
>tax deductions
>someone to lean on financially if you want to change careers
>she stops bitching at you to get married
cons
>everything else
I had a woman who I wanted to eventually marry, she left me and now im depressed
The truth is? You can never truly trust a chick so you shouldn't get tied down. If she tries to pull the "if you really loved me" shit then you don't want anything to do with that. Having a ceremony saying you'll stay together and be faithful is too big of a risk for you.
>>674786961
Perhaps its not marriage that is at fault as much as you're too retarded to actually do it right.
>>674787451
Quite possible, I thought that myself at one point. But then she tried crawling back after the guy she left me for dumped her and left her with nothing (He was smart enough to NOT marry her.)
I instead rubbed in her face that I was with another girl and felt great about it. In this case I'm convinced she was just trash.
>>674782574
Get a prenup written up. Specify talk and discuss proper contract terms. The reason marriage is risky and retarded in modern society is that the guy can go work his ass off all day to pay off the house he bought to find his wife fucking the neighbour, then they get divorced and he has to spend the rest of his life paying for the house his wife lives in. If the prenup says that in the event of cheating, the cheater surrenders all assets then it's fair game. The reason prenups aren't common is because the "don't you trust me blabla" but if you make cheating terms a thing you can come up with some bullshit excuse that "I trust you so much that if at any point in my life I was in such a dark twisted place that something ever happened, that I trust you would be the person to take charge of the house". Just say that you will always love her, but if something ever happened to you physically, like you became impotent after some bs sounding accident that if she was ever in such a place where she needed to separate that option would be there and it would be fair.
>>674786014
>Gets married at 19
>Bitches about having one pussy
Fuck you are dumb
For me, its having my best friend with me, always to share my experiences, interests, and new things that come everyday. Speaking as someone who's been married 10 years and still lives his wife just as much. It comes down to honesty and responsibility for your actions towards that person to maintain a good relationship. )To me). Marriage can be the greatest decision ever, or the worst. It's whatever you make it.
For me? Best decision I've ever made in my entire life. Wouldn't be alive, if not for my wife.
>>674787451
this
>>674787666
Rose colored glasses I suppose.
>>674787666
I thought satan of all people would want a prenup. Who the fuck wants to split half of hell with some stupid cunt who is actually all goody and shit.
I've learnt the hard way that no matter what you do, you can never make a woman truly happy. You could love her eternally, be totally faithful, be financially steady, educated with a great job, her family like and respect you, go out together/with other people, travel together, satisfy her sexually and be responsible while still being fun with/for her and they'll still find a reason to leave you.
>>674787689
>The reason marriage is risky and retarded in modern society is that the
courts and judges can rule the prenup isn't fair or agreeable and they will disregard it. It's not fair to give her a good life, her cheat on you, get divorced, and then her have to move back in with her parents or her boyfriend. No, you're supposed to pay her enough to keep up her current lifestyle she's accustomed to.
>>674788007
Yep, and it's not their fault either. They're incapable of being content. I'm not saying this out of bitterness, but who the fuck am I or you? We're not nearly good enough to keep a woman faithful if she wants to stray or whatever. It's her life, she's going to do what she wants and that's not a reflection on you. She'd cheat on her new guy too.
I love reading this. A bunch of /b/ tards thinking they understand marriage! This is why I come here, to see the illusions these neck bearded tards have for themselves.
TL:DR Marriage is pure religion. /b/ is not religious. /b/ cannot understand.
>>674782574
After having kids, got a vasectomy, then basically it's creampies the rest of my life with her.
Plus she out earns me 3 to 1 and she's an ex stripper turned professional office worker. Uber life bros. Gotta be a gift from God in my case. Celebrated our 11th year anniversary just recently.
>>674782574
Different for everyone, obviously. I've been with my wife for 18 years. We met as teenagers in highschool. Because our personalities and worldviews weren't yet solidified, we grew up together and became the same person, more or less. The only thing we disagree on is gay marriage, because faggots should be hung from trees and she likes hanging around with her queer friend. Other than that, there's no discernible difference between us. We know exactly what the other is thinking when presented with new information or a novel situation, without having to ask. The only thing that's changed sexually is she's become more submissive over the years. When she gets a few drinks in her, she'll want me to choke and slap her. Fine by me; I've been wanting to do that for years anyway. Because we know each other so well, sometimes we don't have much to say. That's okay, too, though. We're content with just lounging around.
>TL;DR, find someone you won't want to strangle to death after the raw lust wanes.
>>674782574
pros:
>taxes cheaper
>if she dies i get her assets/insurance
>share the bills for life
>knowing someones always on your side
>just sex gets old so shit gets crazier and crazier in the bedroom as time goes on
cons:
>her family
>never seem to be horny at the same time
>your bathroom is now hers
>you start to second guess yourself before everything to do. 'would wifu like it if i did this?'
>>674782574
This Nigga here, coming to /b/ for marriage advice....Ha..Ha...Ha..Ha...
>>674785070
>>674785070
I'll tell you why I got married.
>love gril
>decide I am willing to commit to an 18 year baby contract. eg: lets have kids, and I'll agree to be part of both of your lives for at least 18 years
>already live together, split expenses
>She will stop working to care for child
>Marriage contract allows her to safely raise child while giving up career, and not fear for financial safety
>Marriage keeps families / community happy. You may not thing this matters, but it does. Family and community support are important at some level
Do I expect us to be together forever? I don't know. I'd like things to "stay good" forever. but I understand that people change.
>>674786014
lots of these cons. except bitter. and she lets me bang other men/women.
>>674788007
Yet there are relationships built on false pretenses where the guy will cheat/fuck other girls or the girl sucks dick without her bf knowing but yet it's those relationships that end up in marriage.
>>674788776
>>knowing someones always on your side
What does that have to do with marriage?
>>674788417
this.
after my vasectomy wife started swallowing for the first time ever. says it doesn't bother her any more knowing theres nothing swimming in her mouth.
after getting married get in the cut-club as fast as you can.
>>674789101
>after my vasectomy wife started swallowing for the first time ever. says it doesn't bother her any more knowing theres nothing swimming in her mouth.
sounds like my fucking ex Jen. she really got squeeged out by "swimmers".
>>674782574
>be me, slut phase for a decade
>feelsgoodman.jpg
>sex with strangers
>frequent, short-lived "relationships"
>"do I love this person, just because I say it?"
>feelsbadman.png
>in shitty relationship, meet someone at a wedding
>suddenly feel a powerful new feeling
>wtf is going on?
>OH SHIT NIGGER THIS IS LOVE!
>niggastolemyheart.gif
>never wanted to get married to anyone, suddenly rethinking
>date long distance for a year, then get married.
>mfw there's no choice but to give in to the powerful feel, it rules your life but it's fucking awesome
The pros won't come if the marriage ain't based on genuine love.
The only real con is that you suddenly realize you're just a speck in the universe and all you've got to hold onto is making your marriage the platform on which you develop the rest of life's games.
I wish to fuck we'd ditch marriage as a legal construct.
I think the vows can be great thing, but everything about the legal institution of marriage is a fucking joke. If anything, all the tax perks discriminate against single people (who are already at a disadvantage living with a single income).
I hope they reform child support rules so I can have kids some day.
>>674789383
>I wish to fuck we'd ditch marriage as a legal construct.
I wish it existed only as a legal construct. 3, 5, 7 year commitment. re negotiate after that, and re up for x years.
this "forever" stuff is just a fucking lie.
>>674788341
Didnt leave me for another guy, she just decided to go.
Married guy here for 2.5 years. If you've got a best friend, put a ring on it. Always have open communications, and if she doesn't put out, get a willing whore on the side. Don't bug her too much about it but talk and keep communication open
pros:
- please the society, be normal,
- people who support traditional marriage might promote you or support you otherwise,
- when you have children, you can make friends with other married people with children,
- you have someone to help with children, housework or just to take for granted,
- you have at least some friends who is your family,
- can get wedding gifts,
cons:
- marriage might not last,
- people just get used to and take each other for granted,
- divorce and wedding is expensive,
- divorced couples rarely remain friends because that commitment was for life, whereas couples living together without commitment can be good friends afterwards,
- living with someone is hell, also sharing the same bed and bedroom,
- not everyone thinks that relationships are the most important thing in life but if you put more energy into your own study or work projects than marriage, you are seen as cold and selfish,
- you are tied to a person, you have to take into account what they want,
- you can't move or break up whenever you want,
- normal marriage is super boring, as it is seen on TV or magazines, middle class aesthetic ideals and passive aggressive attitude,
- there are concepts like cheating that not everyone believes in,
- you are more likely to have boring married middle class friends than creative or adventurous types,
- you are pressured to have children because you are married,
- daily life becomes annoying and there is no way out because you bought a house together,
I am not interested in relationships either because I am asexual and don't want to settle down or be only with one person.
>>674789101
>>674788417
so after that you can still shoot loads? i thought you'd get off and nothing came out.
just learned something i guess
>>674790121
Pros:
Best friend
Good conversation
Support and company
Occasional sex
Cons
Less sex - unless she's a freak
One girl/no variety
Social life takes a hit
>>674789324
I knew a Jen who didn't want to take loads in the mouth. Bitch
>>674790360
yup. Semen =/= sperm
>>674790913
>girl won't swallow
>says : I don't see you swallowing cum
>anon: actually I've sucked a few dicks before
>girl: grimaces and swallows
I've been married 5 years and it's boring as fuck,
Pros, sex is good for the first year of marriage
Both have decent jobs so got money, not rich but ok to live and not worry about shit
2kids are great, but shit when they're first born
2 cars
Cons, sometimes I wish I never got married, now if things are shit, u can't just bail now, you have to work it out, or you'll lose your half of the house and shit,
It's boring as fuck
You don't want to be around each other anymore, in fact I stay on at work unpaid just so I can stay away from home
She'll nag and nag and nag you to see what time you finish
No other birds are interested once they see the ring on the finger
I stay married as I can't be bothered
Now it's got to can't be bothered being single, looking for girls, you know those shit mind games at the start of relationships? And I'm too old now to find a girl that doesn't have another guys kids, or would want kids or would want to get married again in the future
>>674784031
/thread
>>674791154
how do you both work and take care of kids?
we have a 1 year old, wife and I work from home, and its basically impossible for us both to work.
>>674789627
I see what you mean, but why bother at that point?
I just don't think government should be in the marriage business any more.
"traditional marriage" is between the couple, God, and the community.
>>674790327
>be normal
Marriage is increasingly uncommon... by the time I'm 40 it'll probably be all but unheard of.
A friend of mine just got divorced. Of course his ex is still living in their house, but he
What he said really got through to me
>what we saved on insurance and taxes just went to the wedding and the divorce lawyers
>>674791108
>>674790913
Swallowing is underrated... my gf told me the other night that I should ask her for a blowjob any time I want. Which in practice means "push her on her knees and shove my cock in her mouth".
So very different from my ex who could barely muster thirty seconds of mediocre knob-slobbing before laying on her back like a dead fish.
>>674791016
is it noticeably less coming out or everything seems the same?
>>674791679
>my gf told me the other night that I should ask her for a blowjob any time I want.
hot. my wife was like that until we got married lol. I swear women are wired weird.
>>674788460
I'll add this one thing to my previous post.
I think the best thing is I no longer have the stress related to dating and trying to get laid. I spent tons of money on shit to draw broads, whether it was clothes, cars, all the other minor things to impress women. I acted like an alpha; I later realized I was just being a giant dick to people. Being tall may have helped, but I hated preening and strutting around like a fucking peacock. I bought hair-care products, for fucks sake. I no longer have to spend time at shitty fucking events, bars, concerts, and whatever the fuck else I thought women liked, while I pretended to be interested in their bullshit. All that's over now. Now that I'm married, I do what I want to do, not what I feel compelled to do because I desire pussy.
All the pros in this thread sound like every relationship ive been in. No need to marry.
Marriage is for guys who are scared. You know how women are with scared guys right? Its in their nature.
Lose lose.
>>674791410
She's on maternity leave at the moment, when's she's working its 3 days a week, I try and make sure my days off are when she's working so I have to look after kids
Fucking shit,
I wish I never got married and relationships and did eventually have kids, I think I'd have more money to myself I wouldn't need a bigger house, so could afford better car and luxurys
>>674791754
Sorry, I wasn't the other anon who got snipped. Just re-affirming the truth.
>>674791958
She's got you by the balls dude. Why would she ever do something uncomfortable or inconvenient to make you happy when the law will force you to feed and clothe her for the rest of her life if you leave?
>>674792465
>>674792465
whats she say in that? some deaf chick telling him to get lost?
>>674792590
I think these "marriage" problems are really "kid" problems. I know couples that are not married , who have kids, and its the exact same shit. I have good firends who are divorced and still love their kids, and are cool to eachother... and they have kid problems, you know? even though they don't share a house, get pussy on the side, etc.
>>674792704
she does a lot of shit though - works hard, looks out for me, cooks, cleans, shit - just watching the baby is a nightmare. I think women are just wired so that at a certain point the sex drive goes out the window. I don't think its selfish or spiteful or anything. My wife used to be horny as shit all the fucking time.
14 years here. If you marry the RIGHT girl:
-you have a teammate in life. Solve problems together, deal with family issues, etc.
-better sex. Yes, sex actually gets better the more you and your partner know each other's likes and learn to move in sync, read each other, etc. Plus, the longer you're together the more you'll get bored of the same old sex, so more experimentation and kinkiness.
-second income, if applicable. Plus tax breaks, etc.
-awesome food, if she cooks (like mine)
-comfort and convienience. No concern about having to hook your nextra lay.
-many others
If you marry the WRONG woman:
-Complete, utter, and total Hell on earth. Can completely ruin your life, and permanently take half your income.
Choose wisely!
>>674793280
I dont get why she did that.... he was too slow? Did she see him scratching near his asshole then sniffing under his fingernails earlier?
Guys can you post some peeps for me I need them
In the modern age, the only teue positives of getting married are for tax exemptions, some other legal benefits and socially so people don't think you're weird.
Other than that, there's almost no reason to marry. It's a contract that's hard as fuck to get out of. Even if you're "head over heels in love", " the rest of your lives" is a long time.
>>674793764
>he goes in for kiss
>she shakes his hand and gives him a bro hug
>>674793505
But you can do a lot of these things without getting married. If you just date a file for many years, you two can break up pretty easily. If you get married shit is much harder
>>674782574
I enjoy it.
Pros:
Combined income and/or credit, especially important if you live somewhere where high paying work is hard to find
Tax benefits if you have kids or your wife doesn't/can't work (dependants)
Depending on the nature of your relationship, having someone at home is very handy if only one person works (I am a truck driver, and my stay at home wife cooks me meals to take on the road, does laundry, and domestic stuff like that. Of course, your mileage may vary with that stuff)
Depending on where you live, not being married once past your late 20s may be socially looked down upon, and may subconsciously affect relationships at work and in the community
It's nice having someone around to talk with, vent to, collaborate with, share experiences with
Semi regular sex
Cons:
Like any relationship, it takes work to make things go smoothly in terms of communicating and compromising, and learning those skills.
Kids, financial troubles, family troubles & illness can all cause stress and strain on the relationship
The potential to be hurt by an unfaithful spouse is always there
Potential to have to split your assets if you divorce
>>674785070
>>you will still inevitably break up but now she'll get half your stuff
ahh, my favorite part of getting married
>>674782574
Pros: do you even married?
>Cons: no more sex, in laws, nagging, her cunty friends, sharing money, niggers, Jews, AIDS, go fuck yourself
>>674796006
Bitter, virginal loser detected.
Pros- there is always someone who cooks and cleans for you, you have more money.
Cons- you musnt meet another people.
pros Slight chance it might work out, you can live a boring life full of 9 to 5 and missionary. It will make your parents happy.
cons: Its highly likely the marriage will fail especially if you're a millennial as today's women are indoctrinated by feminism to hate and cause harm to men coupled with the current divorce laws as a man you're fucked. You're better off to just an hero than face divorce court
>>674796173
>Pros- there is always someone who cooks and cleans for you, you have more money.
None of these are true with modern women.
