Socialism in action
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Socialism in action
>>674758891
>inb4 "muh norway/sweden/denmark"
stupid liberals are the cancer of this world
>>674758891
capitalism in action
>>674758891
Both sides of the political spectrum are fucked up if you go too far. I think the pic is more like communism because that shit just siphons all the power to the guys in charge.
>>674758974
People who say 'oh durr liberals be takin mah mendment rights' are basically AIDS but for society.
>>674759314
Bread lines is a socialist thing
>>674759352
communism doesnt exist ;) its socialism
> Choose social democracy
> Attack it to boost a banana company monopoly
> Call it communist
> Say communism sucks
> See actual communist country surpass your own country
> Have the worlds greatest debt while the communist country has the worlds biggest surplus
>>674758974
>the cancer of this world
Except the ones in muh norway/sweden/denmark I guess. But hey, let's ignore the good examples, it'll make it much easier to manipulate a discussion into the conclusion I want it to have.
>>674759314
If you weren't such a noob, you would realize that the big depression wasn't capitalisms fault, since there hasn't been any capitalism. The next depression will probably be blamed on capitalism too, because stupid tards like you swallow it without being skeptic about it.
>>674759352
Keep government small, let people be free. Funny how classical liberals used to think like those ideals, but now liberalism is a big pile of shit.
>>674758891
>>674759832
Denmark/Sweden/others are perfect examples of how socialistic ideas are ruining those countries. To think that "democratic socialism" turned those countries into what they are, is ignorant as fuck, learn some history kiddo
>Don't know what socialism is
>Talk shit about socialism
Literally 98% of reactionary shitheads.
>>674759846
>Keep government small, let people be free.
people are evil and greedy. need government to watch them. Anyone over 12 knows this.
>>674759513
>Bread lines is a socialist thing
That picture is from the great depression. Notice "coffee and doughnuts". I realize correct spelling probably threw you off, they weren't done dumbing it down enough for the general American populace yet.
>>674758891
Explain like I'm 5?
>>674758891
learn something for once
>>674758891
>>674759314
>>674759513
>>674760165
Yep. This is why Trump's winning, because nobody reads up on stuff.
>>674760368
stop posting this retarded tumblr shit
The US is not a good model for the entire globe. Sometimes things just suck because their in the US.
>>674760128
Sure, they've been running as social democracies for close to 70 years at least, but that has had no bearing on the countries? Do tell, what turned those countries into what they are?
>>674760214
>People are evil and greedy, so I want evil and greedy people to take control over what I am allowed to do and not.
You are retarded, the whole idea of a paternalistic government is retarded. You are a retard, congratulations.
>>674758891
>because the rich don't control Venezuela
>>674760061
Socialism: Government steals your shit and gives it to other people. If you refuse they will use the overwhelming force of their bureaucracy to ruin your life until you pay.
Democratic Socialism: Same as the above, only subject to mob rule and the tyranny of the majority.
>>674759314
>Implying there are no lines in socialism
At least you can find food
>>674760391
I never understood how a capitalist can be totally shat on by his bosses, and walk home freshly unemployed past homeless people thinking 'man I love capitalism'
Vote for Bernie so we can food to eat and our future generations will be free of financial bandage. There's different kinda of socialisms out there you son of a bitch. U feel the Bern or nah?
Economic sanctions in action, you mean.
>>674759314
*The Fed taking effect, or The Death of Capitalism in favor of Keysianism
FTFY
>>674758891
>comparing Venezuela with usa
>>674760252
The store is empty and barren, and OP is saying that leftist governments allow this to happen because there is less of a focus on rich-poor divide.
>>674760685
If there are no better options, the employer is making you a favor by paying you. You can always go and hunt your food and live by yourself. (wait not even that can be done because of regulations)
>>674759832
http://fee.org/articles/the-myth-of-scandinavian-socialism/
>>674760685
If you're shit at your job, you deserve to get shat on.
>>674758891
Cool story bro.
When can we start?
People fleeing Socialism in action
Only leaving part III up for a little bit, enjoy the video of me and my sister~
http://sistervideos.tumblr.com/
>>674760391
Capitalist countries produce huge surpluses of food that are mostly thrown in the garbage while millions of people are forced to get by on the bare minimum, if at all. And before you accuse them of being lazy, maybe do some fucking research on the causes of poverty. Hint: It's usually not laziness.
>>674760685
Because I don't get shit on by my boss. I work hard and don't whine about what must be done, so I succeed.
Socialism is for children, and while homelessness is a problem I'll take it over the shit offered by an autocratic government that completely dominates the right of individuals to freely trade with one another.
Sad fact is most people are where they are because of shit they've done. Many of us had unfortunate circumstances growing up, but many of us dealt with it and made something of ourselves. This is not possible in socialism unless you wish to go the route of party politicking.
I'd rather fend for myself than depend on some government agency subject to the will of the uninformed masses.
>>674760581
Are regulations paternalistic? How small should government be to give you the freedom you want? How does the department of Homeland security reduce government or make you more free?
>>674760502
>YOUR POST IS TOO HARD FOR ME TO UNDERSTAND
>>674760646
>"I don't know what socialism is"
>>674760646
>derp
>>674760954
this made me laugh
>>674760978
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>>674761249
>>674760128
how exactly are socialistic ideas ruining sweden and denmark? last time i checked they have free college and healthcare you fucking moron please just go die
>>674761359
"free"
>>674761353
>>674760061
this liberal fucktard ruined the country by abolishing the gold standard. Great job now that dime isnt worth shit
>>674761336
Fuck you.
>>674760646
>I'm a idiot and don't understand how taxes work
>I'm a selfish asshole and I don't want my countrymen to have better lives
>>674761136
Is this a joke? Governments should make justice and protect the country, thats it. People prosper more when they can freely decide where they want to spend their money on, or vote with their money. Smaller government means less debt and taxes. Another thing is getting rid of central banks.
>>674761359
http://www.sciencealert.com/the-world-happiness-index-2016-just-ranked-the-happiest-countries-on-earth
>>674761426
>>674761359
>negative interest rates
>ton shit of oil and small population
you people must be pretending to be retarded
>>674761426
lol love that movie
>>674758891
i have a friend from russia......she said that the bread lines were a temporary thing.....its like if you took pictures of the gas lines from super storm sandy and said that it was the norm
>>674761601
had to do it to beat nazis
>>674760900
>http://fee.org/articles/the-myth-of-scandinavian-socialism/
It's not as clear cut as that though. In areas where we have no major local industries, we import shit, sure - however, if we do have a local industry, it is protected by an almost impregnable customs wall protecting our local business. Every election year, there are huge shitstorms between the people who benefit from it, the people who see an angle to benefit from tearing down the customs walls.
>>674760061
>Elected only 4 times
Learn how to use ONLY
>>674761718
check out the worth of how much a denish crown is worth compared to the USD then shut the fuck up
>>674761704
No, because I'm an adult and I recognize the importance of government in modern society. Most people who don't live in their parents' basement do as well. Don't believe me? Ask the folks in Iraq and Syria who embraced fucking ISIS because they were the closest thing those people had had to a stable government in years. That's how important it is.
>>674760931
Meaning, if you're not the boss, your name is shit.
>>674761924
>small population
what does population number have to do with it?
More people = more taxpayers
Although I wouldn't argue that Denmark has better quality people than the US. We got niggers and inbred rednecks both. No good at all.
>>674761718
http://www.opposingviews.com/i/society/worlds-happiest-countries-take-most-antidepressants
>Iceland — not technically in Scandinavia but nearby — leads with 101 daily doses per 1,000 people. Denmark, Sweden and Finland are all close behind, with Portugal the only outlier. Norway ranks ninth.
>>674762114
learn to sarcasm
>>674761673
So your version of smaller government includes expanding the military and police. You're not for small government. You're for fascism.
>>674762115
It's worth a hell of a lot more than the won from hyper-capitalist South Korea.
>>674762129
from what I heard there wasn't much accepting people who show up and threaten to rape your wife and daughter and then kill them and you if you don't fight for them
>>674761425
so free education and health so people can better themselves isnt the right way. i guess im the extremely retarded one to the point of being brain dead
>>674761359
Read and learn
http://thefederalist.com/2015/08/11/scandinavia-isnt-a-socialist-paradise/
>>674762320
sweet then we need socialized healthcare all the more so people can afford anti-depressants and be happy
>>674761718
How do you level happiness ?
Also isn't Denmark non niggered up and 1/30th the size of the U.S
Sure of the U.S kicked out niggers and shitskins we could do much better
>Also bringing up Sweden a country with huge refugee problems and rapes and with a government that hates Swedish pride.
Socialism does not work. It never does. And if you think it does you're a fucking moron Jew nigger.
also Feminism is heavily in favor of socialism. An ideology that makes women look bad and teaches young girls they are slaves and also endorses rape in the name of multiculturalism
>Also the same people pushing big race divide
>Condones laziness. The hard working pay for the poor. Instead of the poor being pushed to work
>>674762479
"free"
these poor people have to wait on line to simply see a concert
>>674760391
Your image irritates me because super markets are the most progressive liberal places on earth now, especially King Soopers.
You think your message proves a point? It makes me want to support socialism just because of the concept it will do away with such places.
>>674760646
>FDR's Democratic Socialism
>tyranny of the majority
>3rd highest average approval rating
>won 4 elections by large margins
>"tyranny"
>>674762588
>Socialism does not work. It never does.
explain why every civilized country in the world EXCEPT the US has socialized healthcare.
>>674758891
>muh norway/sweden/denmark
>2016
>still thinking norway/sweden/denmark are socialism.
>>674758891
Capitalism in action
these poor people had to wait for coffee......because of socialism!!!!
>>674761924
Sweden and Denmark has no oil income
And even Norway, which has massive oil income, don't really pool that money into their local economy. Most of it gets pooled into an international fund called "The government pension fund of Norway". A very, very small portion of the oil incomes gets fueled into the domestic economy. If they'd allow ALL the yearly oil incomes into the local economy, it'd cause massive inflation. The idea behind the fund, is when the oil runs out, we will live off the surpluss income that the pension fund generates.
>>674758891
>>674760500
>>674760165
I live in a country with a form of socialism.
Our supermarkets are full, we have a free market, we have less protectionist hindrances to free trade than the US, and the OECD ranks us as the third easiest country in the world in which to do business.
YET WE ARE SOCIALIST
A social welfare system, free health care, public insurance/indemnity scheme (i.e we have no ambulance chasing lawyers)
We are also part of Five Eyes intelligence network - with Australia, the US, Canada, NZ & UK
YET WE ARE SOCIALIST
WOWY EVAR SO ORGINAL TREAD FAGGIT.
>>674762515
>Cites a libertarian rag
Christ, no wonder you're fucking brainwashed.
>>674762689
it's funny because it's true, but don't try telling any republitards that. Fox news already told 'em "socializm bad"
>>674762396
"expanding" who said that
>>674762792
Because we subsidize their militaries
>>674762435
check the numbers lol. their min wage is like 29 danish krone meaning people in south korea make more then denmark
>>674762865
>geography in action
>>674763046
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>>674762982
dont be so triggered nigger kike, it's not the second holocaust. actually, even the first holocause didnt happen
>be really good baker
>bake the best bread in for miles
>people line up early before the bakery opens to get my bread
>mfw american propaganda
>>674758891
>>674763017
sowell and history taught me socialism kills
>>674763198
Dumb fuck in action
>>674762151
No... meaning do your job and you won't be fired you lazy fucking pinko. No other person should be required to pay for your ass because you're too unmotivated to start a business or work for the man.
>>674763364
well sowell needs to learn about democratic socialism and you need to learn some history
>>674763343
hong kong is a giant communist country. Which means its socialist as fuck
hey guys! Socialism works in countries that are 90% white or 90% asian! This surely means it can work anywhere in the world! Including USA that has maybe 60 times the population and filled with worthless spics and niggers! Grow up faggots. Socialism can only work in white countries with small populations.
>>674763319
good one. if you made that up that's really good.
>>674763343
It kinda helps not being embargoed for 60 years too
>>674763647
>china is more then 90% asian
>runs a socialist country
>>674763370
Are you fucking stupid? Parts of the city are below sea level and it's situated on the mouth of a heavily channelized major river, it's guaranteed to eventually flood. Capitalism has nothing to do with the fact the water flows downhill. In the next century or two, New Orleans will likely be abandoned.
Idiots...
Socialism has taken on new meanings since it first emerged (the fault of capitalist cunts who like to shit all over it). The original idea was worker control over production, which means every worker has a say and part to play in the business. The term has since grown to include all sorts of state controlled economic sectors.
Those against the left/socialism always point to examples like Cuba and Venezuela and laugh at how bad the economy is, but that's because of US sanctions, sabotage and terrorism that slowly bleeds them until failure.
Just look at how successful the Soviets were with socialism before the Americans bled them through countless proxy wars. They moved from a third to a second world country in 10 years - unheard of anywhere else.
>>674763814
they shouldn't have tried to nuke the U.S and shouldn't have stolen property
tough shit
>>674763647
At least one of you finally admitted it works.
>>674762865
>weather and a dumb ass nigger mayor who refused to mobilize buses and forced evacuation in action.
>the reelected the dumb ass nigger twice.
fixed that for you
>>674758891
Nah, this isnt socialism, this is called a "trade embargo" ameritard, learn something other than muh merica is sweet.
>>674763597
sowell has been writing for close to 40-50 years, describing how you're wrong.
as for your image, a govt forcing people to support others is tyrannical. by definition, socialists are oppressors.
>>674763935
The USSR doesn't exist anymore
>>674763884
And after capitalism was introduced some 300 million chinks are now working. Plus china isn't exactly the best example of freedom/liberty
>>674763814
This.
>>674763118
Okay, now these sources are from 2009, but bear with me.
Denmark doesn't actually have a minimum wage. I'll just assume you forgot to mention that instead of chalking it up to retardation. Instead, employee wages are negotiated between unions and employee associations and their employers. The average minimum wage for all public and private sector jobs (in 2009) was around 110 Danish crowns (~20USD)
Meanwhile, in Korea, the government mandated minimum wage in 2015 was 5580KRW, or about 4.79USD.
http://www.minimumwage.go.kr/eng/sub04.html
http://www.state.gov/j/drl/rls/hrrpt/2009/eur/136028.htm
>>674763814
Why would socialists want to reap the benefits of trade with a capitalist country?
Anyone that uses china, ussr ormodern russia as examples of socialism are fucking retards! Climb off your mom, wipe your dick and go to fucking school!
>>674764218
why didnt those great cuban socialists just force cuban companies to pay for welfare for the whole country? why does cuba need the US trade to succeed?
if cuba is so great, how come it's dead?
>>674764182
Yeah but a lot of that comes down to population control, its not like the US where you can move anywhere anytime, image if they did that in china and have like I dunno 300 million people all ditch farmlands and move into a city, those problems are very real for that country.
>>674763999
yes but in extremely homogeneous countries, and even then democracy is much better. Socialism benefits mostly gibsmedat lazy faggots.
>>674764444
Quads confirm truth.
>>674763935
How many died in the process?
Especially under Stalin
You can't have a revolution with a few firing squads - VI Lenin
>>674764015
White sherrifs stood on a bridge and shot people trying to pass.
>>674759314
Capitalism in action
>>674764064
...And that's not the fault of socialism. I'm no Commie, but there's nothing wrong with the Gov. providing essential services to its citizens.
>>674760848
>implying that the USA isn't basically shit tier now
Anyone that uses china, ussr ormodern russia as examples of socialism are fucking retards! Climb off your mom, wipe your dick and go to fucking school!
>>674764444
>it wasnt REAL socialism!!!
>>674764451
>if cuba is so great, how come it's dead?
just because you dont go somewhere doesnt mean its dead anon there are like 15 million people living there who are not dead
>>674764451
They weren't just cut off from US trade, but from virtually all western trade
And they still scraped by, despite their cunt capitalist neighbours. Sounds like a success story.
>>674764451
US sanctions
>retards
>>674761668
>>I'm not an idiot and don't understand why my taxes are squandered
>>I don't want some lazy, bad decision making, selfish assholes to have better lives at my expense.
FTFY
>>674764711
2 million live in the USA for some reason
I wonder why
>>674764048
>a govt forcing people to support others is tyrannical. by definition,
so the U.S. Government has been tyrannical since FDR started Social Security in 1937? Is that what you are saying? That would mean Ronald Reagan was a socialist and the Bush's were socialists etc etc
You are and your childlike libertarian views are just retarded
>>674764575
Provide pics of the cops on an ape hunting safari.
>>674760500
He loves the uneducated
>>674764781
>scraped by
heh
>>674764529
so now Scandinavian countries are not democracies.
>>674764444
Kek! And lookat those quads. DAMN!
>>674763307
So what's it like being a virgin at your age?
If you're a socialist and still advocate for "gibsmedat" like you're entitled to anyone else's success then take an economics class faggots.
>>674762320
That is down to the acute lack of sunlight, not socialism, you absolute dildo.
>>674760214
This is why the most highly motivated (read sociopath) greedy, evil people end up at the highest levels of government, which is all the better reason to have less of it.
>>674764882
They got prosecuted, google it.
>>674762903
that seems pretty nice,
can I go live with you ?
my country is full of sand niggers now (France)
>>674764781
>virtually all western trade
That's just factually inaccurate.
>>674762396
>fascism.
Fascism is the rule of private corporations. In other words: neocon capitalism wet dream.
>>674764869
>pay into a fund
>dont receive the value contributed into fund
>cannot opt out
>not paying into it is illegal and enforced
my income is my labor, and the govt is forcing me to labor for others. yes, it is tyrannical. this shouldnt be a surprise to you, read the opponents of SS when it was passed.
>>674765027
>This is why the most highly motivated (read sociopath) greedy, evil people end up as corporate CEO's which is all the better reason to have less of them
fixed
>>674764451
That's a stupid question and you know it.
That's like saying why does America need South America and Canada to trade with? Can't it just make money on it's own?!
The U.S. stops other countries from also doing business with Cuba. How the fuck can an economy survive that?
>>674764983
this kills the scandanavian socialist argument faggots.
>>674765175
>implying we dont already have it
>>674765087
Convictions also got overturned.
>>674765027
Sociopaths will tend to rise to ANY leadership position. Business, government, military, etc. The solution is to decentralize wealth and political power in order to prevent accumulations of power that could damage society.
>>674763643
No, China is a giant communist country.
Hong Kong is the former British colony that China keeps trying to integrate into the mainland, but the Hong Kong people tell them to fuck off.
>>674765271
Your typical "Fuck everyone but me" republitard attitude is what's wrong with this world and why people will end up extinct.
>>674765442
Still happened.
I feel like everybody in this thread is using talking points that they get from their favorite pundent. Not a single form of government is perfect. You're all just a bunch of babies arguing over here say and denying reality.
>>674765492
its always a little confusing when elections and major laws are passed in HK. somehow the chinese still try to legislate/govern it, HK tells them to fuck off, china moves some boats around and claims a 500 sqft rock near HK. then it settles out and npr stops coverage.
>>674761718
The Personal Income Tax Rate in Denmark stands at 55.80 percent.
They pay for all that by stealing $5.88 out of every $10 out of your pocket.
Translation for liberals: you make $10, but after taxes you take $4.12 home.
>>674763307
It really didn't happen. Look up how long it takes to incinerate a body.
That guy probably is carl the cuck in real life. That's why he ask you about virginity because he thinks taking nigger cocks counts.
>>674765524
This
fuck bernie sanders, fuck socialism. If you think it's so great go live in quebec where they tax you 55% or scotland where a bachelor's degree means fuck all and only 20% of college graduates are employed cause there's so fucking many of them. Seriously fuck socialism
>>674764574
I'm not denying it was a horrendous chapter in Russia's history, and I despise all the leaders at that time, especially Stalin, but just killing people didn't help the economy. It was a mix of things, but chief of these was massive state expenditure on economic programmes.
>>674762114
You are autistic af, I hope you know that.
>>674764637
true
Under capitalism there would be no regulations banning cancer causing food coloring and your green beer poo would give you cancer
>>674764444
Quads wasted
>>674765706
>gets services
>calls it stealing
Grow the fuck up.
>>674765768
Wow look at this colossal faggot.
>>674765335
Ummm, no it doesn't.
Kasparov basically says there "Yeah, Scandi socialism totally works, because they completed the necessary groundwork for it to function".
In fact it totally supports the Scandi model, if you read it rather than scan it and assume it says "VOTE FNORD TRUMP!!"
Even Marx said that capitalism was a necessary phase to pass through in order to reach socialism. Capitalism is literally built in to the socialist theory.
Socialism is like a fixed roof on your society's home - it finishes off an already secure structure; it places a burden of weight on the existing infrastructure, but improves the quality of life for all underneath it - when implemented correctly.
Just because some idiots in history have chosen to build a roof on the floor, before they have built the walls, does not mean it is correct to shun roofs and argue that your incomplete home is better off without the weight of a pointless roof.
Do you actually know what socialism is or just the BS that is on fox news?
FYI sweden is considered a socialist country they seem to be doing much better that the race to the bottom the US is taking
>>674765335
Scandinavia.
Free college - No its expensive as fuck
Medical - Mostly free, but subpar.
Roads- better than polands but worse than romanias
Cars - FUCKING expensive and are easily damaged due to shit roads and salt
Taxes- fuck me the taxes, i pay 36%, danes pay 50%
Fuck Scandinavia
>>674760931
Capitalism is the best! Nothing beats getting robbed by corporations and have to figure out what to do since your retirement money got absorbed into their debt and the citizens are so stupid instead of getting upset about it, try to defend it! USA! USA!
>>674765768
>you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E48QqcTOXeY
>>674763017
I'm all for democratic socialism, but why do all the candidates that support it also have to SJW faggots? Honestly I might have considered Bernie if he didn't have such a fucking cuck personality.
>>674760685
those homeless people can get off their lazy asses and get a job
>>674766161
And yet every time, a Scandinavian country is voted the happiest in the world.
>BUT MUH TAXES HURR
>>674765524
Beneficial:
>pay taxes
>get access to the infrastructure that i paid into
>examples: parks, libraries, roads, police
Selfish:
>pay taxes
>govt allocates my tax money to jerome's ebt
>i dont have access to that ebt that i paid into
got any more epic maymays?
>>674764698
Classic liberal.
It was socialism, but it did not work, thus for you it wasn't the right type of socialism, Classic.
>>674765889
I'm worried about al the talentless and lazy hacks that provide nothing to society taking advantage of a system that favores the dependant class and helps the worthless fucking failures that never amount to anything by giving them money from people who have worked hard to earn it.
>>674765706
On the plus side, all of Denmark is basically working part time jobs on full time wages, and getting the services that their taxes afford them.
In a century where the innovators are gonna be the guys who are able to sit around and shoot the shit and become developers, self-publishers and web entrepreneurs, I would say the Scandi model is investing in the opportunities for the future.
>>674766268
>fucking cuck personality.
unlike this brave soul??
>>674760581
Good thing it's the idea of a representative government I subscribe to.
>>674761136
I am continually amazed that the most heavily nation in the world - in the history of the world - call themselves 'the land of the free'.
>>674764698
>Doesnt know the difference between capitalism and socialsim.
>>674766098
by what metric is the US racing to the bottom? i'm going to guess you haven't been in many places in sweden.
>>674766268
This. Donald Trump is often accused by the Republicans of being a socialist anyway. They constantly say hes not 'conservative.'
Well, Republicans and conservatives are both failures.
This guy is like racism + socialism + capitalism in one. He is said to support abortion, medicaid and social security. He wants to do away with parasites who want free handouts. Why is he not a good choice again, because some tumblr tard or kike said he isn't?
With Trump there is no social justice, his cruelty is inspiring.
>>674766434
yeah, but you obviously wouldn't understand them.
>>674765706
Wrong. The tax ceiling on personal income (that includes state, municipal, and federal) in Denmark is 51.5%. As in the government cannot tax you higher than that. Another disingenuous capitalist.
>>674766429
Norwegianfag complaining about been norwegian, yepp. Youre a fag. Så kom igjen du! Stå på din jævla fitte.
>>674766194
>>674765976
that's not a response faggots
ITT: Retards with a low paying or no job job blame Capitalism for not getting enough handouts
>>674764529
Only in America does 'homogenous' only mean 'less black people'. It doesn't matter if the country has 5 different official languages, or 25% foreign born population, or any of that. Less black people = less diverse apparently.
>>674766459
>implying we don't have welfare now. that's going to be a problem no matter what.
Venezuela... wew lad
This is what a true Bernie supporter looks like.
>>674766881
maybe not, but they both true.
>>674766768
lol at the idea that what happens during a presidents term is the result of his policies and not that of his predecessors
>>674766768
debt created?
>>674767004
>toilet paper becomes a myth
>>674766794
'At 60.2%, Denmark last year had the highest top personal income tax rate among the 34 countries in the OECD'
Source, CNN money
>>674767018
kinda gay, but smarter than the average Trump supporter
>>674766161
>Free college - No its expensive as fuck
We don't call it high school or college in Scandinava, but school is free until you're 18 or so. That's 13 years of free school.
>Medical - Mostly free, but subpar.
Sure, private hospitals with 6 digit bills will be better - but that is still a CHOICE you can make over here. Subpar, compared to what? Subpar to expensive private clinics? Sure. Subpar to US free clinics? Doubt it.
>Roads- better than polands but worse than romanias
I'll give you the roads, especially in Norway. Sweden isn't that bad though. Frost and thaw makes for rought conditions to build roads in though.
Cars and taxes are high, but look at the end result. Taxes are what pays for the best countries in the world to live in.
>>674766191
This anon gets it
>>674767059
tell it to donald
>>674766429
>a country
>voted happiest
sounds breddy good but the US isn't that much unhappier. despite the fact that you completely miss the point, you should be happy since your country is happy. that's how logic works.
>>674766928
yup, less black people means less crime, less welfare recepients, less murders, less crime, less burdens to society. The reason scandi is able to work is because it's filled with white people. Get used to it faggot.
>>674767059
>liberal inherits a crashed economy
>lol, it was republicans' fault
>republican inherits debt
>lol, it was republicans' fault
yeah, thats about right
>>674767200
>water becomes a distant memory
>>674766641
US is shithole. Four cities in world top 50 for murders, not even any drinking water in people's homes in a bunch of different states, every advert break on TV is filled with pizza adverts, then SUV adverts, then impotence pills adverts (gee, are those all linked?) or advertisements for medication to relieve your "opioid induced constipation".
Total third world shitpit.
>>674767088
There's nothing inherently wrong with debt anyway as long as you're in debt for the right things, the US pays an average 2.43% interest on our debt, which is practically the rate of inflation. We're profiting off much of our debt. We have some of the best credit in the world, and those with good credit are subsidized by those countries without it. There's a reason other countries invest in our debt. As a creditor we receive high interest rates from weaker economies.
The consequences of the U.S. paying off its debt are very very different than a smaller country paying off its debt. This is principally because most countries cannot print the currency that their debt is denominated in, their debt is not widely used as an investment vehicle, they cannot profit off of their debt (by giving an interest rate lower than inflation), and their currency is not an international reserve currency or used to denominate international business/trade contracts.
>>674766928
Less blacks is less crime, based on statistics.
So, there's that
>>674766459
The working class would be the most benefitted. There is a reason they are called the WORKING class.
I guess you would rather have the middle class continue to shrink while the working class grows, and have the rich continue to stay the same size and pick up all the money the middle class drops on the way out.
> Four cities in world top 50 for murders,
ill give you one guess which political party has managed those cities for the past fifty years.
>>674767572
>>674767391
Niggers would be the only reason I would ever vote republican, but so far it hasn't happened yet and I've been voting since Clinton.
Not all democrats are flaming sjw's. Some of us just realize the economy does better when a democrat is in the white house. Coincidence? Maybe, but it's a fact.
>>674765271
Everything you just listed applies to paying taxes in the U.S. So what exactly is your republitarded point?
>>674767745
Largest prision population in the world,
80% white,
you want to keep going?
>>674764261
I'm with you on this but do your calculations take account the fact that everywhere where people make less, things tend to cost less?
See Finland for example. Minimum wage is dictated much like in Denmark but overall cost of living is one of the highest in all of EU (Right up there with Luxembourg and Norway).
>>674759314
Replace that soup kitchen with an Apple store and now you're talking.
>>674767939
the next response, where taxes to support commons is generally accepted and how taxes used to support welfare is not.
if i'm forced to pay for (anything) and do not have access to it, i am being oppressed. and so are you.
>>674767950
You realise that, just by posting that, you are actually demonstrating the exact opposite is true, right?
>>674767572
>asked about the state of a nation
>says something about a tv ad
americans might be retarded but the country itself is where anyone with a future goes to study or start a business. as far as a race to the bottom, making advertisements doesn't mean anything and crime is low.
>>674760128
>Copy that
>>674765655
Underrated post.
>>674762129
i would ask them... but their head have somehow been removed from their bodies, so i cant.
>>674767316
Jaja, grunnskole er jo gratis (det er gratis i mange lander) høgskolen er dyrt som faen!
Klinikker i usa er faktisk bedre enn de er i norge, iallfall de legesenter eg har besøkte.
Veie- det er vi enige om!
Vi betale mye skatt for et system som er ikke det beste, men politikere vil ha at "VI" selv kaller det for den absolut beste! Finns ikke bedre, det er bare tull! Jeg mistet jobben ifjor i oljebransen, og etter 10 år offshore, hva faen fått jeg av staten, ikke en dritt!
Om jeg vil til skole og ta videre utdanning for å kommer meg i jobb igjen må jeg betale selv, erna fat whore solberg kan dra til helvete!
>>674768314
meh, not really
>>674767684
This. Soon there will be two classes, the proletariat, and their bourgeoisie oppressors.
you can thank republican economic policy for proving Marx right.
>>674768222
Trips aside, you're retarded. There's a fucking wall of text describing his point, THEN an insult after.
>>674768393
ENGLISH MOTHER FUCKER DO YOU SPEAK IT?
>>674760249
FDR ran on a socialist platform and helped us get out of that depression.
America today has threads of socialism like how we fund our fire stations, roadworks, infrastructure, etc.
Learn the definitions of these terms before your decry these concepts
>>674767684
Who told you the middle class shrinks? You're dictator Bernie? Do you have any idea who's going to pay for "free" healthcare, free college? You will. The working class will. This myth that the rich will solve all your problems based on legislation that will never pass is simply just that. A myth. Do you have any idea the consequences 15$ minimum wage has on small businesses?
>>674762044
That happened in 1933. Nobody was fighting nazis then dumbass.
>>674763935
This
>>674768281
It's a continent-sized landmass. This argument that there are pockets of excellence is not a good argument for saying it is a healthy single entity. It's like explaining away the shithole lives of Romanians by saying "But at least Berlin is really cultured!"
I totally agree that there are "good" parts of the USA. But those are to be devoured if the union stays together. The states that can afford it should all secede before it collapses on them.
>>674768281
>Oxford
>Cambridge
>McGill
>>674768437
Your opinion.
>>674768504
No, you are retarded for replying to a post without understanding it.
The poster was saying "we be like, but they be like" and in fact posting the exact kind of "hurr durr" image that it was claiming to ridicule.
I know that your lot say you don't enjoy "irony", but you seem to rely on it a hell of a lot.
>>674768210
So you think you're not paying for corporate welfare through your taxes also? It cuts both ways. Open your eyes taxpayers are taking it in the ass from these corporations while your still whining about paying for poor people
>>674768393
>>674768535
He basically is saying that the tanking oil business that keeps Norway afloat and the government system that is supposed to give him shit for free, isn't giving him shit for free.
>>674761123
You sound like a lazy poor person ?
>>674768777
solid digits
>>674768544
I (the person you're replying to) am not decrying socialism. I'm singing it's praises.
>>674768889
finally, we reach common ground. if you do want to discuss that particular point though, at least do it justice and state that our bailouts net a profit.
it wont always be profitable, and it was a lot of luck and coordination, but it actually worked that time. doesnt mean it should be a standard practice by any means though.
>>674768973
Yep.
>a priori
Sam Harris / Hitchens fan?
>>674762333
>>674765858
You two cucks are not very smart. He was commenting on the grammar of the sentence, not the context.
In the sentence, the modifier "only" needs to be closer to the clause it modifies.
>>674768563
>who told you the middle class was shrinking?
You done goofed
http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2015/12/09/the-american-middle-class-is-losing-ground/
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/12/14/americas-middle-class-is-shrinking-so-whos-leaving-it/
https://www.census.gov/hhes/www/income/data/inequality/middleclass.html
>>674768889
>Open your eyes taxpayers are taking it in the ass from these corporations while your still whining about paying for poor people
THIS
>>674768942
Shit ive payed for in my opinion! 36% tax, so i have already payed for it cunt!
If youre under 18years of age, then my tax kroner hace been giving you free shit too, when you get a jobb and pay out your arse for shit, then come back and i will accept your apology! Until then shut up. If youre over 18 and have a job, then dude, why you aint agreeing with me?
>>674768636
>watch me write a word salad
how old are you?
>>674768657
i am not talking shit about any western nation. i'm more or less implying that if you are comparing countries you should have an argument rather than just saying one sucks and one is good. you can't have it both ways by saying education here is bad while ignoring that 2-3 times as many people come here for strictly for higher education than to any other country. you can say we have a few cities with high murder rate but there's no point arguing against how much wealth and how many opportunities there are here.
>>674759846
You talked about classical liberalism! <3
>>674760368
>Insinuating that a Democratic Socialist country doesn't give handouts to the corp.
>>674759846
What am I reading? Jesus kid.
>>674769326
I didn't ask that faggot. I asked who told you the middle class shrinks. As in, if Trump were elected, who told you his policies would make the middle class shrink? Trump's tax plan is by far the most populace out of any of the candidates. I wasn't asking wether or not it was currently shrinking.
>>674769434
>word salad
Which one are you struggling with anon? Come on - we can work through this together!
>>674765335
It's not "free stuff". It's called allocating tax revenue in a way that actually helps the populace.
>>674765305
Thanks, I appreciate not having to go into all the details of interlocking directorates and revolving doors between companies like Goldman Sachs and US government agencies like the CIA
>>674769326
this mostly agrees with the consensus that the middle class is moving into the upper class. there are problems with having so many migrants come in and be on welfare i guess, but the median salaried employee today probably lives a little better now than in 1971. or are you fucking retarded?
Hillary is the only true friend of Israel. Cuck Trump want to withdraw from middle east and leave Israel to fend for itself. NEVER TRUMP!
>>674762208
a lot of bussines fail, guess what tho he took some risks and prolly employed a lot of people and bought a lot of infrastructure while making/running these buss.
>>674769737
>populace
WTF
Well anons, i have thoroughly enjoyed our debate, good night.
>>674769777
it's called wealth redistribution. Which is nothing short of theft.
>>674769245
Guess what? It will always be common practice. So while you're distracted ranting about lazy project hoes, all banks and corporations keep getting bailed out on our dime. Unless you personally got back more than the taxes you paid there is no profit. Just you fooling yourself into hating people in a lower position than you. Exactly how the oppressors (banks corporations and the gov't) like it
>>674761974
Did you just compare temporary famine to a temporary wait for a luxury item?
>instance where socialism failed
>"socialism sucks"
>instance where capitalism failed
>moving goalposts and damage control
Kek why so butthurt?
>>674770000
>>674769970
that means it effects the most amount of people positively.
>>674765445
Thanks to the nascent maker revolution, that's going to happen!
>>674769777
populace is a strong-word for niggers
>>674768563
>>674769326
I know damn well who's going to pay for it.
The majority of Americans will save money on healthcare with a single payer system. I'm guessing your mom still pays for yours.
What's wrong with free college?
I do NOT agree with a 15 dollar federal minimum wage. The minimum wage should be set by a federal committee for each state based on its cost of living.
But we do need a living wage and 15 dollars and a little inflation is better than nothing
>>674762689
the majority was very happy to hire some one to steal shit from other people and give it to them, yes.
>>674770129
No, it doesn't
Webster that shit you retard.
>>674770044
Triple doubles! Witnessed
Don't worry comrades, you don't really want electricity, unlike those dirty South Korean capitalist pigs.
>>674762208
4 billion dollars.
>>674759832
To be fair it's pretty easy to have a successful country when you're situated in an economic hotspot, have a fuck-ton of land and resources compared to your tiny population and a historically well-refined gene-pool.
I think that's why those examples aren't as viable as people say.
>>674770044
you are under the impression republicans want to impale every peasant and worship a board of directors. liberals are the only ones who think that. republicans want the most freedom for the people, and i suppose you forgot how many republicans were originally (rightfully) against bank/auto bailouts.
liberals can take credit for the bailouts this time, they earned it.
>>674763597
>mfw the democrats were the racists back then.
>>674769754
good answer.
>>674769777
>what are governors
>what are mayors
>what are nonprofits
telling people they shouldn't have access to most of their wealth is fine if it does in fact help the "populace" (autism), but measurable improvements in quality of life have come from innovations mostly in what you would consider shitty countries. so you could argue both ways. there are plenty of studies that show distributing money in the form of taxes to "help" other people is really inefficient regardless of which country does it.
>>674766069
Very well said
>>674770037
Cool. So I guess that means you're not okay with redistributing some of this military budget that ~60% of your fed income tax goes to?
Why is centrism so oposed? WHy cannt we have the best of both wordls :^)
>>674770513
Bailouts were started under the Bush adminisration.
>>674770788
Steel beams don't melt
>>674769824
That's not true at all.
It was much more affordable to live on median income back in the day.
Things have become more difficult post Reagan.
It's not welfare causing this, Kek.
It's massive tax cuts for corperations and the rich that are funneling money into the upper class. This was done on purpose because someone had the retarded idea that that money would trickle down.
Where does it say the upperclass is growing? The middle class is shrinking, the working class is growing, and the rich are just getting richer.
>>674770338
I'm not natively english speaker so fuck off. >>674770272
>I'm guessing your mom still pays for yours
And here I was thinking we were having a civil debate. Great to see you're not above "le funny mom jokes XDD". And what's wrong with free college? Ask Scotland, where everyone has a college education but only 20% of which are actually employed. Also, Maybe I don't want to pay for some faggot's liberal arts degree. Don't I have that right?
>>674770513
Right and they still went thru with it. Same shit the common person loses. They're all a big circle jerk and you're not invited but keep fooling yourself and blaming Tyreek for all the welfare.
>>674767212
Well, your CNN is wrong. Link to denmarks official tax site: http://www.skat.dk/skat.aspx?oId=satser
You are looking for "Skatteloft (personlig indkomst)" which is 51,95%
>>674770788
and the dodd-frank issue was a bit of the liberal's fault. we should start another thread if we're just gonna post events and designate blame.
>>674769347
>>674768889
THIS THIS
>>674770929
>blaming Tyreek for all the welfare.
no, Tyreek is a cool cat. jerome is the asshole
>>674770752
bernie sanders Is the most pro-war out of all the candidates. He's going to use every last penny of the military budget and then some. He's the biggest war-monger out of all the candidates, thank god there is 0(zero) chance of him getting elected.
>>674770918
No. Not if you want yo live in a society.
>>674770788
>9/11 was planned during Clinton's administration
Bushs fault
>Bush had bail outside during his administration
Bushes fault
>Obama started shit tier mandatory healthcare and more bailouts
Bushs fault
Lmao 8 years later and it's still bushs fault
>>674770918
If that is the cost of citizenship as determined by democracy, you have the right to pay for that faggots liberal arts degree,(which is very important to society, philistine) or you can gtfo of America.
>>674766069
Scandinavia is successful because it has a low population, a lot of resources and a good gene pool.
Socialism, capitalism it's doesn't matter. Every big economic problem can be traced to the fact that we have too many people and not enough shit, and people have essentially tried to cheat nature.
People forget the basic economic problem too much with this shit.
>>674771108
you're not paid what you're worth, you're paid what you negotiate. freedom isnt comfortable, that's the deal.
>>674771030
Butthurt
>>674760685
If you don't like where you work, find another fucking job.
>>674764015
He got reelected because he called New Orleans a chocolate city and black people always vote for black people.
>>674764575
This is a lie made up by black people to insurance companies to get more money.
I'm a New Orleans native lol
>>674771108
trump is anti-establishment. Which is more then can be said for bernie. The Kike will almost certainly help out his shoa brothers that are the heads and ceo's of the corporations you speak of.
>>674770752
military is not just guns and tanks, fago.
my salary is mostly from the DoD and we make diagnostic kits to study and reduce disease around the world. you're maybe 50 years too late if you think that the military budget can be spent on more useful things. at any rate you're a fucking idiot if you think you'd be much better at the job or it would be much better if everyone was just taxed more.
>>674763013
purposefully submitting oneself to ignorance in the name of not "brainwashing" ones self. Can you not even use your brain to decipher fact from fiction? Or even make your own conclusions?
>>674764323
UNDERRATED
>>674771188
>>674771289
The society that you want to live in, which will never ever happen because Bernie will never want to be president, so I do have that right.
>>674766069
Fucking well said
There is no reason you can't have functioning capitalism and free market and socialism.
BTW - Not all markets are free. You can't sell thalidomide to pregnant mothers or sell candy laced with heroin.
Unrestrained capitalism would be worse of all possible world
>>674770037
>believes our tax dollars are better spent killing rag-heads halfway across the world instead of improving our own education and healthcare systems.
ITT: Gullible faggots arguing about which system is better when in reality all systems are pretty awesome in their core but all have the same outcome- ruined by human greed and manipulated to the max.
Whateverism they call it it's just a mask for their gain. If you think people in Russia were killed by millions because the Communism says so them you're a fucking retard.
Stalin was simply a psychopath that ruled with an iron fist. His rule had nothing to do with Lenin's comunism.
Likewise for capitalism, it's a great system where the only way to go is up but fucking Kikes like to stack gold bars to the ceilling and are willing to backstab their best friend for a few shekels.
>>674771714
never be*
because he's a failure,a loser, like all his supporters.
>>674771234
9/11 Bin Laden determined to strike US memo
>>674771714
Actuaĺy you don't.
See IRS
>>674771808
>i disagree with you on how tax money should be spent
>so i think we should tax everyone more and distribute money just how i want
>>674769737
Trump favors across the board tax breaks, this will mainly benefit the rich. Bernie or Hillarys tax plans actually are doing something to combat income inequality, moreso Bernie's.
Tax brackets like trumps are what got his into this situation during the bush and regan years.
Much better than ted Cruzs completely retarded flat tax I'll give trump that.
>>674771808
see>>674771132
bernie Is the most pro-war out of all the candidates.
>>674760128
Sweden/denmark is atleast better off then america is or ever will be.
>>674765175
That's an oligarchy
>>674771986
Actually I do because College isn't free so I'm not paying a free college tax you fucking dumb nigger.
>>674772045
tax breaks aid anyone who has a job. if you're saying that a 1% reduction saves more with every dollar you earn, well yeah. of fucking course it does.
>>674761353
> mfw white people believe this.
>>674772138
better for poor people, in a few ways yeah
>>674772138
sweden/denmark has a fraction of the population of the US, and has a lot less niggers. Infact, it's a nation that's 90% white, which is why it's so prosperous.
>>674770509
That fuck-ton of land isn't much to speak of in Norway and Denmark at least. Most of Denmark is sand, most of Norway is rocks.
>>674772293
Pell grants, rehab programs so you are, who's the dumb nigger?
>>674771132
>implying EVERY SINGLE republican in congress didn't vote for all those
at least Bernie wants to take care of vets, more than the republicans want to do
Americans keep living in your filth. It makes for good TV.
Sincerely,
Canada
>>674768281
More per capita in prison than any country in the history of the world, you mean
