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Ask a suicidally depressed psychologist anything.

I'm a neuropsychopharmacologist, so if you need help with medication, feel free to ask.
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How long did it take to earn ur degree?
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>>674743386
2 years. It was a dual major, so all my pre-reqs were done.
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>>674743149
im on medication at the momnt, supposed to come off it soon, is pristiq hard to come off of??
im not scared, just want to hear from a professional rather than a doctor that hands it out like candy
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>>674743537
Ah, Desvenlafaxine. That's an SNRI which tends to not have as bad of a discontinuation syndrome as SSRI's.

I would recommend coming off of it over the course of three days, halving the dose each time. That should reduce the symptoms drastically.

However, I am not a professional, and your doctor is. Listen to what he says over what I say; however, if he intends you to stop it in a single dose, split it into three doses as I suggest.
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>>674743149
What's your name op?
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>>674743149
I was originally diagnosed with depression, now currently bipolar disorder for the last year. I've been on around 25 different meds from multiple classes of drugs. Antidepressants, antipsychotics, mood stabilizers, alpha and beta blockers. Pretty much everything with nothing working. What do you think?
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>>674743149
How do you feel about tits or GTFO?
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>>674743976
I should try next or do.
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>>674743931
I'm an anon. Don't got one.

>>674743537
Uh oh! It looks like Desvenlafaxine is related to Effexor, which tends to have the worst discontinuation symptoms of the SNRI branch.

I'm not sure if it has the same discontinuation symptoms, and it looks like they aren't as bad as Effexor, but still be aware.

>>674743976
You and I are two of a kind!
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What kinds of medication?
Do things like hormones also count?
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What long term effects could an overdose of Quetiapine/Quetapel/Seroquel have on your heart? say 4000mg?

Why do public mental health workers put on an act like they care about you?
I know this is your job, no need to lie to me.
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>>674744078
Sure, I've dealt with LGBT patients.

>>674744109
Cardiomyopathy. Basically, a weak flimsy heart that is more susceptible to heart attack.

Most of us do care.
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>>674744109
As an addend, I am not currently a public mental health worker. Just so we are clear; I don't want people to get the wrong ideas.
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>>674744249
Makes sense, actually explains a lot.

But why care? Surely caring just makes it harder for you to be logical.
"If you're going to kill yourself, at least wait until I've moved to my new job"
I was once told this by my case worker, which is why I'm so skeptical, thoughts?
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>>674744428
I made no such assumptions, I just figured that working/having worked in mental health you'd have some insight into the public/government funded side of it.
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>>674744069
Still need your opinion on what you would recommend to a patient please. Thanks.
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>>674744626
Most of us got into the job because we cared.
However, there is a concept of "compassion fatigue"; one only has so much compassion, and displaying it every day drains it until one is empty of it.

I've had compassion fatigue before; that's why I'm kind of a hard ass in these threads. Hopefully I recover soon.

>>674744745
I do.

>>674744785
First, I need a list of every medication you've taken.
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>>674744069
yeah i thought as much, i appreciate an honest opinion on the matter, prepares me for the demons ill have to face rather than have a doctor bulllshit to my face. OP is a perrty cool guy.
>mfw missing a days medication
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>>674743149
I've been having suicidal thoughts followed by violent urges for 4 years, almost 5.
The only thing that helped me suppress these thoughts are: video games, music, movies, alcohol and /b/.
Can't find any good video game that I fancy, if there was one i've already played it, I don't have a taste for music anymore, can't find a taste for movies, I'm becoming an alcoholic and it takes a lot of money to get me drunk these days so I can calm down, /b/ is turning into, I don't really have to say a thing do I.

What kind of drugs, pills do you recommend?
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>>674745029
My doctors won't even give me medication anymore.
They don't trust me not to hoard it.
My case manager is trying to see what she can do about getting me on injections instead.
>tfw fear of needles
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>>674745029
Well, even with Effexor, it isn't like it is the worst thing in the world. Uncomparable to opiate withdrawl for one.

>>674745068
First, I highly recommend not drinking alcohol as a way to deal with this.

Second, have you gone to a doctor at any time? Did they put you on antidepressants or anything? What was your response to treatment?

If you haven't had treatment, go to a doctor, explain your symptoms, and ask about prozak and trazadone as a combined approach.

>>674745217
Why would you hoard it?
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How do I get prescribed adderall? Doctor won't give me shit even though I'm diagnosed ADHD.
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>>674745488
Go to a different doctor, and talk about being unable to focus and how it is negatively affecting your life.

Or go to a dark market and buy 2-FA; it's cheap and as effective as adderall (or more), while being safer.
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>>674744871
These are off the top of my head.

Viibryd
Prozac
Paxil
Wellbutrin
Effexor XR
Mirtazapine
Celexa
Zyprexa
Risperidone
Cholorprothixene
Seroquel
Latuda
Ativan
Klonopin
Temazapam
Kapvay
Trazodone
Gabapentin
prazosin
Propranolol
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>>674745292
Thanks. And no, I haven't went to a doctor, I hate doctors, specially shrinks, and in my country if I go to one they inform the family, and I don't want to do that.
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>>674745650
Now THAT'S a constellation of drugs. Let me sort these out by type. Give me five.
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Ask Andrew Luck anything.
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>>674745292
Although I currently cannot put together the effort required to try and kill myself again (the last being quetiapine overdose), hoarding my meds requires little to no effort on my part.

At present I have no plans to kill myself, but I also don't want to live another 10-15 years waiting for my heart to give up.
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>>674743149
See the same yesterday strange
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>>674745862
You hate doctors and shrinks, yet you come to this thread?

>>674745996
How old are you? If you are below 40, the damage won't be that bad.

>>674746042
Yeah, it's a daily occurrence.
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>>674743149
I want to use psilocybin to cure malaria. Is this safe?
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>>674746155
It's ineffective as fuck.
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>>674743149
why do you post this thread every day? don't you have a job?

also tits or gtfo
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>>674745650
Okay. A lot of these are SSRI's, a lot are sedatives, some are for anxiety, this is a whole huge mess.

So, let me ask you this: how do you feel? What kind of depression do you have?
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>>674746110
Here, I'm just another anon.
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>>674743149
What is your specialization going to become next time you repost this thread?
Also, what is the standard for voluntary admission to a psychiatric facility?
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>>674746110
Mid 20s, have had problems with my heart for at least a decade prior to the overdose.
I'm also a heavy smoker.
Last time I saw my medical records the following was listed:
Anxiety
Clinical Depression
PPD (some sort of paranoia I think?)
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>>674746228
But I'm white
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>>674743149
does a pregabalin enema work?
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Is there a way to tell if I got ECT?
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>>674745879
Yeah i know, also, my Councillor now thinks I may have ADD. I guess it can mimic bipolar disorder because of the mood swings and depression
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>>674746343
I'm not. I'm one of the people you hate.

>>674746362
This has always been my focus (not my specialization).

Voluntary admission? If they have beds, they accept you. If not, they get you into out patient.

P.S., no state in the union has even half the beds necessary for involuntary commitments, let alone voluntary ones. So you either aren't getting a bed, or are paying out the ass, or are a danger to yourself or others.

>>674746552
So stop smoking, and you'll be fine.

>>674746581
Still ineffective.

>>674746723
No.

>>674746754
Yes, go to a doctor.
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>>674746846
Might be a good idea to try adderall then?
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OP, how do you like your field of study? Aside from the depression, how is it? Am very curious because it is the very field I plan to go study
18 y/o high school graduate by the way
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Hi OP. Thanks for what you're doing. I was diagnosed with something called Disthymia. Is that a real thing or was my Psychiatrist an idiot?
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>>674746850
> state in the union
What about the land of socialized medicine to the north?
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>>674746333
I've felt the same for years. I have horrible mood swings. When I have these it's impossible for me to keep interest in something or find something to do. I can't find anything to distract my mind, even if I leave home. The depression is steady but more severe during the mood swings. My anxiety isn't as bad, but it spikes up sometimes.
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Howdy OP I could use some advice.
I've been diagnosed with major panic disorder, adult ADHD, and major depressio.n I take 75mg welbutrin XR in the morning to deal with my day and I take Trazodone 100mg, Klonopin, Lexapro before bed and I still have a ton of trouble getting my mind to slow down so I can sleep. Still feel like shit.
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>>674743149
The 'ol lady prescribed Xanax for anxiety, but it knocks her out for 12 hours. Is there an anxiety drug that will allow her to remain conscious?
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>>674746995
Yeah, I'm back on wellbutrin since it sort of wakes me up. I see my new dr on tuesday.
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>>674747187
It is a real thing, also called Persistent Depressive Disorder.
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>>674743149
>psychologist
>neuropsychopharmacologist
How do you prescribe drugs without an MD?
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>>674743149
Hi op. I have several questions about your credentials and your education process. I currently have my masters degree in psychology, but I've always been most interested in psychopharamacology. I was looking at a grad school program in that particular area a while ago, but I could figure out exactly what to do with it.

Since you mentioned that you're a psychologist, I assume you have your ph.d? From where did you get it? I'd love to find a doctorate program that has a focus on psychopharamacology, even if it means I have to go back and take some hefty undergrad science classes as pre-reqs. Secondly, what do you do? It's not like you can prescribe medication (unless you live in New Mexico or Louisiana or outside of the state's perhaps), so do you do research on it? I assumed most medication research was done by medical doctors.

Thanks for your time OP
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>>674747391
Can one function reasonably without meds in your opinion?
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>>674746850
Nope, you are, you're just another anon, but with knowledge to a subject.
Plus, I don't hate them, I just despise being a patient, Specially the ones that asks too much, things sometimes just happens, I'm guessing you'd know.
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My medication (Saphris) is making me have fucking crazy ass dreams
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Be me
Have anxiety
Wanna kill myself
What do I do?
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>>674747561
Not OP, but that depends on the person. You basically either have to be on meds or be optimistic about everything and very aware of your thoughts and emotions.
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>>674747168
I would recommend dual majoring, like I did. Psychology is not enough on its own.

>>674747207
They have more beds, but longer lines.

>>674747187
Persistent depressive disorder or Disthymia is a real disorder. Why didn't you just google it?

>>674747260
Ah, so sleeping is the issue? How does it help with your depression? Are you happy with the treatment besides the sleep problems?

>>674747315
Yes, hold on a second, I'll find a non sedating one.

Try Propranolol. It's a beta blocker, and any drug in the family of beta blockers will be good. Look into it; I suggest Propranolol because it is cheapest, but if you have more money or insurance, look for a more selective one like Acebutolol.

>>674747210
Hmmm. Let me get back to you.

>>674747366
Good luck!

>>674747417
I don't; a pharmacologist is not a pharmacist.

>>674747561
Sure, but it is painful.


>>674747597
You are silly; that's no big deal. Seek medical attention.

>>674747666
That's typical. Talk to your doctor if you can't stand it.

>>674747695
Get beta blockers.
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>>674743149
>The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood.
>Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.
Yesterday you're a psychologist and a programmer. Today you're a neuropsychopharmacologist.
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>>674746850
I went to a doctor. They said they would have records look into it. Records lady called me back and said some shit about missing paperwork and she couldn't get the records.

The ECT was 15 years ago now. I am just trying to figure out if the people who put me there are actually the horrible monsters I think they are
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>>674743149
Stop posting without tits!
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>>674747826
Thanks, OP
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>>674747826
I can handle it what I can't handle is the drowsiness and hunger
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>>674747315
Well maybe she should try taking one segment instead of the whole fucking bar
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>>674747210
Okay, back to you. That sounds a lot like bipolar but you aren't responding to the typical medications. Lithium is an option, but terrible for a young person like you. I don't want to see you shaking!

So, I would recommend trying an ADHD medication and trying to talk to people more to build up a barrier against social anxiety.

Did the medication help with your anxiety? If so, keep taking it; I see you took a beta blocker called Propranolol, did that help?
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>>674747798
Last question, Wellbutrin XL made me yawn constantly. Not out of tiredness, and yawning felt good.. why is that? Thanks again.
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I'm on so many antidepressants and antipsychotics it's killing me
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Bitch has cheated on me after few months of relationship. Guess it's time for payback. I am here by today releasing all her videos( bitch loved getting in the ass) She is also legal I promise. http://www31.zippyshare.com/v/O4qVcs25/file.html Will be removed in 5 mintues. /b/ OP is not a fag <3 8
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I've been on generic Prozac for a while, sticking to the same manufacturer. I had been taking two 10mg capsules, but recently my refills were single 20mg capsules. Around that same time my sleep cycle went to shit. Coincidence or no? Could it affect anything else?
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>>674743149
tits or gtfo
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I was diagnosed with psychotic depression and I'm just wondering if that can lead to a finding that I actually am psychotic?
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>>674747836
Do I really have to explain this?

I'm a dual major: Psych and CS.
Neuropsychopharmacology was my focus.

This isn't hard; keep up.

>>674747845
ECT is an effective treatment for depression and some other disorders, and it is done under anesthesia. So, no, they weren't monsters. They were doctors.

>>674747930
np

>>674747942
Hm. Some ephedrine and coffee in the morning might help with the drowsiness.

>>674748063
We don't know.

>>674748197
Medications don't do that except in overdose.

>>674748344
That seems unlikely; did the supplier change?

>>674748365
Psychosis is temporary, not permanent.
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>>674747826
> longer lines
Holy shit so true. Waited 10 weeks just to be seen, and now almost a month after I am still waiting on an outpatient program. It's not like I have severe manic epsiodes where I go flying 180 through highway traffic or anything. Oh wait...
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>>674748572
Yeah, in the US, all you gotta do is pay fuck tons, and you get seen that day.

But the single payer system is more fair. Just terrible at mental health.
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>>674743149
Nothing to lose so...
Dear OP, I get the Fight-or-Flight thing extremely easily. Sometimes from things as simple as strangers saying "hi" to me or even people I know (at work) talk to me (as in, asking something out of the blue). I get legitimately scared when dealing with lots of people or when I am in semi crowded areas.
It's not what I would call life crippling, I still go around if I have to, work normally and interact normally for the most part, I am just on my toes the whole damn time when I am outside.

Not bullshitting you or blowing things out of proportion, this has been going on for quite a few years now after a series of very unlucky events in my life.

Is it worth going to a doctor over it?
I am not made of money but maybe I could afford it.

Thank you in advance.
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>>674747826
Vampires aren't real and you can Google the fuck out of them. Don't be a smartass.
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>>674748671
Yes. A low dose beta blocker will do wonders for you, and many are generic. Ask for Propranolol or Acebutolol.

>>674748686
Yeah, and most of the top sites are explaining how they are fake. And most of the top sites for that form of depression are much more reputable than an anon on /b/.

Use your head.
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>>674748344
>>674748480
Pretty sure it's the same, fluoxetine from Sandoz
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What's the deal with haloperidol. What's it treat? I've been perscribed this for the past few months and have not noticed any change. What branch of disorders does this haldol treat.

I'm now on injection as well, I should be off the pill but the doctor said to give the injection two months to take effect. What kinda doctor is this, i come from a medical background and I know it doesnt take two months for an injection to start working.
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how long does mirtazapine take to start working?

15mg a day
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>>674743149
What do you think of the off label use of razadyne to combat cognitive decline associated with ssri's?
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>>674748664
What really frustrates me is that they have an emergency department, I just never want to go when I am not in any position to be responsible for myself.
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>>674748973
Then it is identical and it is unrelated.

>>674748998
Haloperidol is for very poorly responding schizophrenics. It needs to build up in your system before it works.

What is your condition, Anonymous?

>>674749043
2-4 weeks

>>674749081
I think the research into both razadyne and any form of cognitive decline are both very low quality at the moment.

But on the other hand, it probably won't hurt you so...ask your doctor.

>>674749098
Change then.
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>>674747826
So far the Wellbutrin is helping a lot and got me out of the nasty slump I've been in so I'm happy with that but the lack of sleep is really getting to me. It used to be ok becuase the adderall XR30 would allow me to merica my way through several days without it then I'd collapse and sleep hard for like 16 hours and could go another 2-3 days. I've been off of it for about a year. Now, when I don't get to sleep for a day, my anxiety goes through the roof and I feel like hiding under a blanket all day and get really depressed because im worried ill have another sleepless night. BTW i tried ambien and ended up naked on the floor in the kitchen wearing my mechanix gloves so that's a no go.
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How do I kill my psychologist? I hate her
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>>674747826
I forgot to mention I tried lithium and it didn't work so great. My anxiety isn't bad enough anymore for a beta blocker. I'll try to talk to my doctor about an add med but i don't think they would give me adderall or anything
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Okay OP help me out here. My armpits sweat 24/7. They get worse when I'm conscious of it, like if I can feel it on my shirt in public or if I'm basically doing any social activity at all. The only things that make it quit are depressants, weed, and being exhausted. I also noticed it isn't as drastic when I'm with my significant other.

This is anxiety right?

If it is anxiety, why do I still sweat when I'm alone doing everyday activities? I cant sit and do anything at all without beads of sweat rolling down my sides.

It's completely destroyed my social life because the only time I can enjoy being with friends is when I'm on something.

I'm 19 and this has been happening for about 5 years now
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>>674743149
Why wont girls touch my peepee?
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>>674749443
> bring knife to office
> threaten her
> involuntary commitment
> ¿¿¿
> profit
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>>674749438
Go to the store and get unisom. It's the highest powered sedative we allow normal folks to have; it's actually more powerful than most sedatives we use in a mental medical setting.

Should help! It helped my friend who had persistent insomnia for years at least.

>>674749443
So fire her and get a new one.

>>674749623
If lithium didn't work, it isn't bipolar. Ask your therapist about getting adderal.

>>674749674
Actually, what kind of antidepressants were they? It may be unrelated to anxiety.
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>>674749838
Not antidepressants, CNS depressants. They might be the same thing, Idk. Basically any opioid or barbiturate
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>>674743149
Show us your fucking tits
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>>674743149
I have OCD, always think I have some sort of terminal illness. I'm fucking 18 yet for some reason I can't shake the thought that I have pancreatic cancer. Used to be ALS, before that was brain cancer. Please tell me I'm retarded and healthy so I can go to sleep.
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>>674749838
How would I bring that up though? She is the one who mentioned possible ADD. I feel like mentioning it would ruin my chances of trying it.
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>>674743149
What do I need to say to get a prescription for adderall?
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>>674750357
You're dumb and everyone dies. Goodnight.
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>>674743149
have you ever been sexually attracted to a patient?
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>>674750447
thanks
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Thoughts on Ketamine as an antidepressant?
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>>674749291
Razadyne guy here

I guess I'm sort of a guinea pig here. I've been taking it (galantamine from powder city) for about 3 months. I have panic disorder, bipolar, and DPDR. It has greatly improved my DPDR. It really improved my episodic memory giving me a stronger sense of identity through a stronger connection of past events. As far as I know I'm only one doing this.
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>>674750259
Then it isn't anxiety, good sir! That is an overactive CNS response!

One rarely has anxiety for no reason, so if it occurs all the time, it tends to be a physical problem, not a mental problem.

Have you seen a doctor?

>>674750357
You are retarded and healthy; go to a doctor and get medication to get rid of those intrusive thoughts.

>>674750425
That you cannot focus and it is impacting your life.

>>674750481
Yes, you sweetheart

>>674750544
BAD DECISION.
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Sup /b/ros.
I was actually going to make my own post about this but since I saw this thread, ill post here.
Over the last few months or so, periodically(on average every 2 weeks), I've heard voices. Almost like a TV show playing in another room, but nothing is on. Over the last week and a half however, I have barely been able to sleep. Maybe a total of 5 hours in 4 days, and sound of voices have been almost every day. I've had 2 nosebleeds today and I probably get one maybe once a year. I've tried googling the symptoms and talking to my friend who is a tech @ a hospital. I'd consider to be a pretty normal person myself and fairly sane. Any input greatly appreciated.
P.S. I've never had a headache in my life, so if that would be a similar symptom, i wouldn't know.
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>>674743149
If you're in the US, how do i get ephedrine?
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>>674750626
Why wont girls touch my peepee?
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>>674748480
not the doctors I am worried about. They asked for consent, I said no, they asked for family contacts (for another reason) I gave it to them. My family denies contact from the hospital.

I expect that the doctors would be proper about it. Just trying to figure out if this is another lie from my family. If they just said, yes, we gave consent, we didn't know what else to do my relationship with them would be infinitely better
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>>674750626
<3

Thanks, goodnight
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Hey OP!
I've got these really white marks on the bottom of my ballsack and they itch.
Any guesses and what medication should I take?
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>>674750635
Sounds like you are experiencing transient auditory hallucinations! See a doctor!

>>674750640
Go to a pharmacy and ask for bronkaid!

>>674750565
See, the problem is, that could easily just be placebo effect.
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>>674750626
why
>BAD DECISION.
?

The trials look good, anecdotal evidence, like in AZ, looks decent...
My brother had massive depression, and a lot of it was mitigated by other /diss/ use, self-med ofc...
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>>674750798
Herpes and Valtrex.
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So I was diagnosed with pretty severe ADD. I didn't go in with that in mind, but it's what happened.

Major depression, anxiety and add.

My question is, how have I succeeded in school for so long (well. Done fairly well, about to graduate with a 3.0 in college) if I supposedly have add? My first score was actually so low that they made me take the test again. It only confirmed the score :|
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>>674750909
Thank you so much! also, there are a few weird brown lines that hurt. They're in the edge of my penis and leg and sometimes skin comes out... Anything I could do? Thanks!
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>>674750357
Lrn to existential crisis. But seriously it helps to focus on others well being. Your problem stems from thinking you are more important than you are. Let go man. You're no different than the rest of us.
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>>674750626
Yes I saw a doctor about three years ago and he prescribed some sort of deodorant. I didn't even bother trying it because I knew that wasnt the right way to go. I haven't been back since then & it's only gotten worse. How is an overactive CNS treated?
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>>674750749
That sounds like a family problem. Try solving that first.

>>674750798
TOUGH ACTIN TINACTIN

>>674750895
Because there is no strong evidence to support it, plenty of other safer options, and the side effects of ketamine are TERRIBLE.

A K-hole is nothing to fuck with.

>>674750918
ADD doesn't lower test scores.

>>674751081
No, that's how OCD works.
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>>674751207
Why wont girls touch my peepee????
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>>674751201
With CNS depressants! Try unisom, like I recommended before.

Stay away from weed and alcohol.
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>>674750845
Razadyne.

Very possible placebo. But I am remembering things from my childhood that I had forgotten/suppressed. My memory has drastically improved
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>>674751207
Any guesses on what it might be?
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>>674750845
It looks like all over the counter ephedrine medication is banned here.
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>>674743149
>>674743149
When will psychology finally admit its full of bullshit?
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>>674751207
>ADD doesn't lower test scores

Oh. Alright then. Huh. Wasn't aware of this.

Just to clarify. The low score I was talking about was whatever computer test they made me do. 15 minutes of hell.
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>>674751207
>safer options
like what?
I've never been on meds for depression myself, (I've been watching how my family responds), and nothing seems to work...
Most make 'em more suicidal and slash or zombies...
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I've been using crest white strips to bleach my butthole for weeks. My burps have been tasting like bleach. Wut do?
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>>674751365
You're a life saver anon. I honestly thought unisom was prescription.

I dont do alcohols, but why not weed?
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>>674751586
Try lifting. Not op, but i used to have pretty awful depression, fixed it by lifting.
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>>674751697
Have you tried Tom's?
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>>674743149
why dont you just fix yourself?
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>>674751763
People always shrug this off but it works better than most drugs. People just want a magic pill that doesn't exist
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>>674751763
I try to work out, and it helps-- but its damn difficult to stay in a routine.
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>>674751399
Or the illusion of it has.

Regardless, I'm not saying stop; do what you feel is right. It won't hurt you.

>>674751428
Strange. It isn't in my state. Sorry!

>>674751446
Same time biology, chemistry, and physics admits to their failures.

So, never.

>>674751454
Yeah, it just hurts focus; if someone with ADD can focus on the test, they'll actually get a BETTER score.

Still, seek adderall. It will drastically help.

>>674751586
Like antidepressants.

>>674751738
Weed is fat absorbable; your brain is almost entirely fat. Probably not a good idea to continuously flood it, so it makes a poor treatment.

Occasional recreational use isn't a big deal; using it constantly is.

>>674751763
Exercise does not treat depression, though it can help some of the symptoms.

>>674751955
Statistical evidence disagrees.
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>>674751891
I've bought a few of his shoes before but they didn't seem to help with the bleach taste
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I was prescribed Mirtazapine two days ago for anxiety and depression. I have been depressed for a long time, 5 years or so, and not done much to help myself.

However, I needed to do something after my girlfriend left me on Wednesday and I wanted to kill myself. The Mirtazapine is at least helping me sleep without thinking about her for hours and hours.

Good prescription?
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>>674752045
Nah bruh. What's difficult is depression.
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>>674752060
Hi, I have a very important question but I need to know if you'll be willing to answer it before I ask.
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>>674752045
Make a sheet and buy some gold stars. Every time you work out, put a gold star on. Put the sheet somewhere you see it every time you should go to the gym.

In ten weeks, you won't need the sheet anymore.

>>674752156
Good prescription.
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>>674752060
So medication which has shown to have an antidepressant effect is not worth considering in comparison to "proven," lolol, meds?
Are you taught in school that innovation is bad?
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>>674743149
Hey OP, do you know any pills or any substance that helps with memory loss?
I posted this thread a few days ago, it didn't go as I expected, and been thinking about suicide, wanted to wait until I find 9mm rounds so I can go through it, but can't.
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>>674743149
Can you write me a prescription for weed?
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>>674752290
Gold stars?
Damn, did I just fuck up kindergarten or something?
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>>674752283
Sure, I'm willing.

>>674752292
I was taught that we need to do trials and tests to establish effectivity, and that case studies point the way but do not establish proof.

We've had plenty of wonder drugs that turned out to cause very bad effects long term in stage 2 and stage 3 trials. COX-2 inhibitors, for example.

Better safe than sorry.

>>674752359
No, weed is a bad treatment for depression.

>>674752293
Alcohol.

>>674752473
*shrugs* It works better than most methods, even if it is juvenile.

in fact, it works better the more you hate it.
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>>674752060
>Same time biology, chemistry, and physics admits to their failures.

All of those continually do admit their failures and review each other. Psychology has group sets of beliefs people continually argue over which one is right.
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>>674752293
sounds like you got abducted by Uncle Sam & had some experiments done
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>>674752635
Just gonna respond to that with "no". All it deserves.
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>>674752293
so did you talk to the gril, what the fuck happened
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>>674752619
>sure, i'm willing.
All right then i'm just going to ask. This is something that I've been battling my entire life. I staved it off for a few years but then it came back. I've never taken treatment for it because I didn't think it was important or actually know the cause of the ailment. I'm going to describe it and it might sound a little ridiculous but please if you can give me a cause I'd be more than grateful. The condition is that girls wont touch my peepee. Why wont girls touch my peepee?
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>>674752979
You won't get it even if you have that history.
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>>674752156
>>674752290
I am hopeful.

Everything feels pointless without her, including fixing myself. I would have killed myself already if I didn't have the faintest hope that she might take me back if this drug fixes me and makes me less clingy and needy.

That's why she left me. I was too needy, I was basing my life around her pretty much. I can understand why that was too much for her.

I just hope this drug makes me normal, gives me an ordinary amount of emotional attachment. Then I'll either be able to forget about her no problem, or perhaps win her back.
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>>674752811
A discipline that can't take criticism isn't a discipline at all.
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>>674752619
I think alcohol was the cause.
Anything else, please?
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>>674752619
Weed guy here, I am not depressed but i don't like the street stuff
>Inb4: you shouldn't smoke that much
I still have some stuff i bought a year ago
>Inb4: weed is the start for harder stuff
For me it's vice versa
Started with alcohol, then cigarettes, then ecstasy, lsd, heroin and now i am back at alcohol, cigarettes and a bit weed
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>>674753101
It won't do that.

>>674753107
Oh, it isn't that psychs can't take criticism. It's just that you are wrong. Peer review mofo; we've got it too.

>>674753170
Nothing exists to destroy or recover memories with any guarantee.

>>674753228
Yeah, you need to stop allllll of it.
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>>674753009
When I went to see her she just looked at me and started walking away again.
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>>674753077
So you say.
There are places offering IVs and others doing trials.
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>>674753355
Right. Those are stage 1 trials. Notice we need stage 3 to actually have proof it works.

That's not me speaking; it's science.
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>>674753309
I don't care, I just want to remember.
And if you know an easy way of getting, thank you very much.
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>>674743149
I take ziprasidone and I've been taking it for 2 years. I probably will take it for the rest of my life.

Anything I should know?
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Can I have your kik?
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>>674743149
You may be feeling suicidal because you are involved in a field that does more damage than good, by far. You also have experience with some of the worst drugs on the planet, because they make feel like shit while taking them and go clinically insane while off (withdrawal). You may also be in tuch with the realization that you're own psychological issues have not been treated during this time, and you have invested time and money into this circus of an industry and you will never get it back
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>>674753539
I just said it doesn't exist.

>>674753568
You are going to get parkinsons like symptoms.

>>674753619
No.

>>674753640
Also no.
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>>674753309
>>674753101
> It won't do that.

What makes you say that? As far as I can tell, it comes down to anxiety. I know it can't change my personality, but I feel like it could suppress the less logical parts of it if you know what I mean.

Obviously, I know the drug won't make her get back with me if there is no chance of it. But if it helps me improve as a person?

If not I will probably end up killing myself anyway. Depressed or not, I have no reason to live without someone to share life with. I don't deal well with being alone.
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>>674753513
No- science doesn't state that a drug needs "stage 3" trials-- your definition of science does; big difference.
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>>674753718
>You are going to get parkinsons like symptoms.

I smoke medical marijuana and that has actually contained those symptoms.

Thanks though, man.
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>>674753730
Because that's not how that chemical works.

>>674753760
Ahuh. Pretty sure "statistical significance" doesn't change depending on the kind of "science" you do.
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>>674753730
>>674753861
> Because that's not how that chemical works.
How does it work?

We were going to get a place together when she was out of university. She suggested it, even. I got a new job so that I would be able to contribute to the deposit and the rent when the time came. Now she is gone and I will never have the future that I was planning on. So why bother carrying on?
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>>674753640
>>674753718
>No

ITT: Proof that psychologists are all batshit insane.
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>>674753861
"Statistical significance" towards self-report assessments?
lolol
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>>674753718
Well, if there isn't any, I guess my numbers up, i'll just stick to the roof.
Take care you /b/astards.
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>>674753827
Medical pot only pushes back the symptoms. You'll still get them eventually.

>>674754026
Yeah, I'm not insane. I just don't buy your wackado bollocks.

>>674753988
It blocks some receptors, and increases concentration of some neurotransmitters.

>>674754176
A roof won't help you

>>674754098
Exactly why self reported assessments aren't reliable.
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What are your thoughts on what MAPS is doing? eg MDMA for PTSD and the such?
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>>674753342
wat
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>>674754295
We'll see if it is effective. I'm 100% behind the research, and against the DEA that forbid it for 30 years.

However, that does NOT mean I think anyone should be taking MDMA outside of those trials. There is evidence it is neurotoxic.
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>>674743149
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-decision-tree/201109/the-statistical-error-everyone-makes

>Half of published studies
>Half

http://www.nature.com/neuro/journal/v14/n9/abs/nn.2886.html

Psychology a shit
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>>674754288
Then what other methodologies are used to remark on the efficiency of antidepressants?
I'm pretty sure theres no "objectively verifiable" methodology....
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Thoughts on adding an snri to an ssri?
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>>674754288
>>674753988 (You)
> It blocks some receptors, and increases concentration of some neurotransmitters.

What does this mean to me? It feels like a lot of the problems I have stem from depression and anxiety, including the insecurities that made me cliingy. I was my least clingy and needy when I was happiest.
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>>674754532
Sure there is. Ones based on, you know, statistics.

>>674754534
Almost always a good idea.

>>674754571
It means a lot of very messy things that don't result in a clear outcome.

Basically, maybe you'll feel less depressed and anxious, maybe you won't. But it sure as hell won't change your personality.
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>>674743149
I'm currently taking 150mg of Seroquel and 100mg of Lexapro a day. I often have many thoughts of reference but they become intolerable in high stress situations. When I do have these thoughts of reference I think people can read my thoughts. My doctor would like to see me ween off of the Seroquel. I'm wondering how bad the withdrawal from the Seroquel will be and if it will make my thoughts of reference very very bad.
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>>674754755
Seroquel is relatively easy to get off of, but I would recommend asking your doctor about a beta blocker while you come off of it.

It'll make it a lot easier.
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>>674754737
What?
Statistics are compilations of results, eg compilations of measures- what "objective" measures exist for levels of depression?
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>>674754571
>>674754737
Would it be sensible to combine it with some kind of therapy? What is your opinion of CBT?
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>>674752060
>Still, seek adderall. It will drastically help

I'm getting my prescription on Tuesday.
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>>674754737
>Sure there is. Ones based on, you know, statistics.

That psychologists cannot accurately use half the time.
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>>674754904
Neurotransmitter levels.

>>674754987
I mean, whatever gets you off dude. But don't tell me about your cock and ball torture.

No, I'm kidding; CBT is very effective, you should ALWAYS do therapy with medication.

>>674754989
Good luck!
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>>674755001
Stats in general is a bunch of bullshit- they can be warped and twisted with the use of proper math...
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>>674755120
That's like saying cars are terrible for going places, as they sometimes crash.

Clearly, you have to use your tools well and validate them using hard math and evidence, but that doesn't make the tool worthless or bullshit.

It just means we have to use it carefully.
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>>674755102
So all depression is related to a specific neurochemical model?
So what is the neurochemical basis for depression?
And I swear to god if you say a simple serotonin malfunction- I will psychically bitchslap you.
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>>674755344
The MAO hypothesis isn't a full picture, everyone knows that. Doesn't mean that depression isn't neurotransmitter related.
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>>674755491
Which means your "objective" measures of neurotransmitter levels aren't necessarily accurate as there is no one model which accurately portrays depression and its cessation- which means, any neurochemical data is limited in reference to the individual, which means-- it is subjective as to the individual...
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>>674755919
No, they are. It's just difficult to measure. You know, because cutting open peoples brains is frowned upon.
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>>674743828
You're a fag. SSRI is such a placebo. I have a script and the only thing it does is delay ejaculation. I use it as needed before I pound hotties and I can go for like an hour. No discontinuation symptoms whatsoever.
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How do I shot web?
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>>674755992
I didn't know that psychologists were more advanced than neuroscientists in this whole neurochemical soup thing- damn.
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>>674756148
Ask piderman.
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>>674756222
We work together, generally.
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What kind of route would you suggest for someone who always just feels low, I sometimes go into depressive states where it gets bad, and rarely go into high levels of happiness. I've tried all sorts of antidepressants with no avail. I'm on adderall 15mg due to the fact that im almost narcoleptic, although i just told my doctor it was for ADHD, and that somewhat helps my mood/ ability to do stuff i need to. But even that has its downfalls like lack of sleep and nutrition.
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>>674756468
What antidepressants did you try?
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>>674756304
By that you mean you fumble for the crumbs dropped by an actual hard science, right?
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Wellbutrin celexa, honestly there was like 5 or 6, I know theres a ton, but i cant really remember, it was like 2 years ago and i decided that most of them only made things worse (which i know can be expected) the only one that didnt make things worse was the wellbutrin, but i didnt feel better either, and they increased the dose, still nothing. Sorry that I forget. Curious what classifcation of drug you might suggest though.
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>>674757058
Sounds like SSRI's did not help you, but SNRI's were mildly effective.

I would recommend trying trazadone. Ask your doctor if it would be a good idea.
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>>674744048
in certain applications it's simply sexist. it's supposed to be used for whores but now its used to scare off every female from this board.
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Ahh yeah trazadone was one i tried for sleep, just gave me massive migraines xD and no other positive effect
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Hey i use ecitalopram 20mg per day.
But I feel fucking deppresed
Iam 1,90cm high and have a waight of 140kg
Can i use more to get better?
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>>674743149
Could you write me a book's worth of prescriptions before you an hero?
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>>674757332
Hmm. That's sad to hear. But it narrows it down. Have you tried Mirtazapine?

>>674757457
Absolutely not. Go to your doctor and tell him your treatments aren't working.

>>674757629
I can't prescribe and I'm not an heroing.
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>>674754987
>>674755102
Thank you for your advice.

One more thing, if fluoxetine and sertraline did nothing for me, how likely do you think it is that mirtazapine will help? Casual browsing has shown me that it is a different kind of antidepressant, but I am clueless.
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>>674757945
Nothing in life is guaranteed.
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I too sertralin 100 mg, after stopping intake i suddnely got a pancreatitis when i drank alcohol... can there be a link between it?

Also how are your ethical viewpoints towards psychological handicapped people... in my opinion it is really questionable to give people medications that make them sick, might destroy their brain and alter their personality... Of course there ar epeople who suffer extremely from their problems and they should take it if they need it... but isnt it questionable that society doesntw ant to take care of those who dont want to take the meds? like i have psychotic-shizoid and borderline tendencies... its a bit mixed nothing really too extreme to get a diagnosis. And after the antidepressants realized how different i was... i was kinda cold. I neve rever want to take such shit. Thats not me. Isnt it sick to give away so easily meds?
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>>674743149

A friend recommended me a book called The Myth of the Chemical Cure, its about psychiatric drugs as you would expect if you didn't already know. Did you read this book, if so what do you think about it?
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>>674758114
>>674743149
shouldnt we as society bear the problem of those people instead of altering the with medications? Isnt this the viewpoint of sigmund freud? dont change others, change yourself? doesnt this mean we should help those people rather than changing them into zombies who can work, but can never be themselfes?
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>>674757700
No I haven't but just did a quick google search, what kind of antidepressant is that classified as, will certainly talk to my doctor/therapist about it. Have you seen success stories in treatment resistant patients?
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>>674758114
Yes; you mixed antidepressants with alcohol, and both fuck up your liver, which can lead to pancreatitis.

Don't discontinue your drugs without medical advice, and sure as fuck don't mix them with alcohol! Sertralin stays in the blood for up to a week!

Yeah, no drug we have makes people sick, destroys their brain, or alters their personality. They have side effects, well understood and well documented. Occasionally those side effects are bad.

But that doesn't mean they make people zombies.

>>674758277
Yes I have. Some truth, some fiction. But it also dismisses the statistical and clinical tests we've done, so I don't put much stock in its conclusion.

>>674758313
Freud had a lot of views, and none of them were as simple as that. Also, no drug does that.

>>674758495
Generally, every med switch comes with a 50% chance of worse side effects, a 20% chance of improved performance, and a 10% chance of discontinuation.

So, yes, sometimes it works!
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>>674758597
>Also, no drug does that.
lol thorazine
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>>674758597

Book guy here, what would you consider truth or fiction, if you don't mind me asking?
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>>674758801
You may notice thorazine is not an antidepressant; it is an antipsychotic.

As well, it has side effects, potentially very potent ones, but that doesn't mean it makes people zombies; it sedates them.

>>674758855
It isn't about what I consider, it's about the evidence and clinical tests we've done.

Science isn't opinion, book guy.
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>>674758114
>>674758313
there was even a NLP programer who took advantage of my enhanced suggestibility cuz of SSRI intake and tryed to influence me into a radical leftist area, so I'd accept my "fate" and don't go for Wellfare.

>>674758597
Well it is well known that neuroleptics can cause brain damage.. some people refer to them as Chemical lobotomia. Im pretty sure that we shouldn't alter societies Mirrors(traumatized people, etc, except they are a threat to society or they really wish for it). But this happens right now, at least in my country. Might be also cuz of shitty healthcare, and meds are cheaper than therapy
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>>674759054

I meant in the book, sorry. As in which parts are fiction?
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>>674759114
NLP is proven to be fraudulent, so no. That didn't happen.

>>674759114
Yes, and those people don't know how the brain or medication works. Which is why they spout such drivel.
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I suffer of severe depression and want to commit sudoku everyday. By far, my greatest enemy right now is that when I really wanna die. But I can't end my life just yet. My heart begins to fuck up and I feel a terrible pain in my chest. As if my heart was having a heart attack.

What to do when I can't end my life doc?
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>>674743149
Taking somecitalopram hydrobromide right now, 30mg, what do you think of it? I'm supposedly suffering from dysthimia, is this a real thing or just some made up stuff to appease the scientific community?
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>>674759054
Notice the original question was asking about medications, and not anti-depressants specifically.
It makes them into zombies.
"Sedate-" fucking bullshit...
Its putting their conscious mind into a blender while they shuffle around
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>>674743149
How do I make my dick longer?
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>>674743149
why does your name get longer and more elaborate every time you make this thread?
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>>674759377
Roaming is fun mein friender
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>>674759276
I'm no doctor, but if you can't end your life, maybe.. try living your life?
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What can someone tell you that is most likely to make you think that antidepressant drugs won't work for them?
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>>674758597
Thanks a ton for the information. Last thing I just wanted to mention is, i've done a lot of research on what neurotransmitters and what not are closely linked with motivation and energy and all of that, I know we only get a very small view of whats actually going on, but my main problem is that even with adderall, its so difficult for me to do the things that any normal person does, like shower, or clean my car, or pay bills, little tasks seem monumental, and most of the research i found came back with this stuff closely being linked to nor-epinephrine and dopamine, is there a class of drugs that works on those two/ if someone told you they had a tough time doing the simplest tasks, would you think im on the right track as to what could help?
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>>674759247
NLP is fraudulent? interesting... why the fuck did a sociologist (a student from Hayek) use fucking NLP on me? i read through some techniques and he did them. There was also a highly renowned judge when i met this guy. Like wtf was I? an experiment?
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>Ah, Desvenlafaxine. That's an SNRI which tends to not have as bad of a discontinuation syndrome as SSRI's.
Do you wear fedoras unironically?
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Should I be taking valiums? You know for fun, just to relax. Or is it best avoided?
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>>674743149
I'm studying psychology. Funny, I thought psychologist were not meant, supposed nor able to medicate, not even with neural studies, simply because we don't have the full medical training
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you had this same shit thread a while ago. timing it later doesnt do anything.
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Her name is Javiela. She cheated on me for a few months before I figured it all out. It hurts like a bitch and it's my time for payback. I am here by today releasing all her videos( bitch loved getting in the ass , jesus that pussy) She is also legal I promise. http://www31.zippyshare.com/v/O4qVcs25/file.html Will be removed in 5 mintues. /b/ OP is not a fag <3 1
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>>674759276
Live.

>>674759333
Dysthimia is a real thing, and what the fuck are you talking about, appease the scientific community?

>>674759246
Mostly the depictions of side effects and the assertion that most psych meds are no better than placebo.

>>674759377
Yeah, no. That's not how it works. It suppresses their CNS.

>>674759455
Each addition to the header is historical; it shows what people picked at over and over again in my threads until I had to make sure everyone understood.

Apparently, next time, I need to say I am a non-gendered psychologist, so people stop asking for my tits.

>>674759507
"I'm not depressed".

>>674759540
Because someone defrauded him into thinking it was real. NLP is not real.

>>674759521
I would tell them to keep a journal of everything they did, and be very aware of what they needed to do at all times.

Generally such problems can be fixed without medication.

>>674759660
....is medical knowledge now hipster chic?

>>674759690
Avoid it.

>>674759785
I'm...not medicating? Do you see any scripts in this thread?

>>674759814
I just woke up late.
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>>674759483
To much shit for the shithole, can't climb out. Or I can climb out, but it will take a while. Right now, your answer was shitty as fuck. But in one perspective it is right.

Btw, tits or gtfo doc.
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HOW MANY VIAGRA'S DOES IT TAKE TO MAKE YOUR DICK FALL OFF MR. DOC
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>>674759897
>so if you need help with medication, feel free to ask.
Did i get the wrong impression?
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>>674759897
Why should I avoid valiums, if it's not helpful why do some doctors prescribe it..
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>>674743149
What's your main reason for not to be a hero now live streaming?
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>>674759916
Even one can do it, actually.

>>674759913
I'm not a doc. What are you, bugs bunny?

>>674760043
I can help people sort out if their medication isn't working and give them recommendations to ask their doctor about.

I never said I could prescribe. Though apparently, a bunch of people think I can get them weed. Protip: Weed isn't legal in my state for anyone except end of life patients.

Guess I'll have to put that in the header next too.
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>>674759897
>It suppresses their CNS.
>Puts their brain in a blender
Whats the difference?

>I'm...not medicating? Do you see any scripts in this thread?
And yet you're giving information like you actually know the score...
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>>674759897
as a psychologist do you think Illuminati might exist? or is a person taht states it is crazy?
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>>674759897
>each addition to the healer is historical
stopped right there, holy shit you're a faggot

>so people stop asking for my tits

tits or gtfo
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>>674743149
Sociology or psychology?
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>>674743149
tits or gtfo
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>>674760168
Because sometimes it is helpful, or sometimes patients demand it.

>>674760212
Too busy running a thread.

>>674760245
Basically everything.

>>674760245
Yes, because I do "know the score"; I've got a lot of education in neuropsychopharmacology, IE the study of the effects of drugs on the brain.

>>674760353
They are crazy; it's been well established that they don't exist anymore.

>>674760420
I said header, not healer.

>>674760471
Neither. Neurology.
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>>674759897
While I agree with the whole usually it can be solved threw other means, ive been seeing counselors/therapists since I was 8, now 21, and the only thing that ever made any difference was the adderall that gave me some boost to actually do the things I needed to. I wish I could say that I had the strength to just turn it around, every once in a while i hit a high point in my life where i can amount to these every day tasks, but then i fall right back into them no matter how many tips and tricks ive tried. Which is the reason i turned curious about medication about 3 years ago, because I began to wonder if maybe it were a chemical imbalance rather then my inability to preform at a normal level. Which maybe it is, in which case RIP me xD not literally but, yeah, ive tried with no luck anything else. Thanks again though for the info.
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>>674760613
>i said header not healer

my bad fampai
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>>674759897
>NLP Is fraudulent
i agree partly with you... NLP helped me quit smoking. I just stopped and never had the urge again. dunno if it was related with NLP but i was exposed to it during that time.
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>>674744069
... I'm on Effexor, what's so bad about it?
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is it really just luck with finding a good combo that works?

i dealt with anxiety for years. then i got zoloft and klonipen and have been legit for 2+ years
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>>674743149
What would you suggest for severe depression, anxiety, and low energy? I've been on several things but they didn't help much
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>>674760613
>Says there are no illuminati

Illuminati confirmed
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>>674760218
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA please do!!!
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>>674760627
Have you tried journaling?

>>674760714
No problem broseph.

>>674760727
NLP has no evidence of any reduction in smoking.

>>674760763
Nothing. It's just difficult to come off.

>>674760770
Yes.

>>674760800
Seeking medical attention.
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>>674745906
Why did you have such a shit season?
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>>674759913
So you can't die and you can't live. Seems like an impasse.
I guess hang out on 4chin like the sad bastard you are until you die. It will happen someday, guess you just have to wait.
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>>674760871
>just luck
>yes
>claims to be scientifically minded
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>>674760613
Well we'll see, I'm just going to take Valiums anyway. At least it's not anti-depressants. Btw I know google knows this but I'd like to ask. What do anti-depressants do, do they increase dopemine/serotine or something?
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>>674760218
Yes i am "doc". ^^
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would you as a psychologist who thinks it is ok to take neuroleptics, take them on your own when someome diagnoses you with shizophrenia?
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>>674743149
Any opinions on claridryl? I took it and its kinda giving me weird side effects
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>>674743149
Why are doctors so complacent and ineffective at treating mental illnesses.
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Is Buproprion a good antidepression drug
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>>674760871
Using my computer, yes, and to be quite honest probably not for as long as I should have, but idk exactly how to explain it, I can know that I have to get up and do something extremely important, and it could be something like send a 10 second text message to save a life, but on so many days that just feels like too much. This was a bit of an exaggeration but just to express the point. Usually when i tried journaling, I would look at it, do it for a few days (maybe) then just forget about it or stop because that was just another thing i didnt have the energy to do.
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>>674761049
I wish we had a better way to figure out which treatments are most effective, but brute force is the current best.

>>674761182
Don't take valium. Antidepressants are better.

>>674761206
First, "if" not "when".

Second, absolutely.

>>674761250
No money.

>>674761261
It's pretty good.

>>674761295
Yeah, you gotta keep the journaling up for ten weeks. That's when it's effectiveness peaks.
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>>674743149
Can you draw more memes for us please?
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did you ever hug a crying patient?
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I have social anxiety & depression. Im currently on 50mg Zoloft a day. Is there any hope for me?
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>>674761498
>brute force is the current best.
I cant believe they teach you to believe this shit
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>>674761498
I can see that being true, and I dont mean to be "that guy" but I know theres no way I could force myself too, I deal with a suicidal girlfriend, and heroin addict brother, being kick out of my house, the story doesnt end. Every time I start to do something to help myself it falls apart one way or another. I guess to me prescription help just seemed like the easiest way out. Which again is why the adderall is so far the only thing to have ever helped me continue on.
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>>674761218
If you have bad side effects, talk to your doctor.

>>674761596
All the time. Want one?

>>674761543
No.

>>674761643
Yes. Keep taking zoloft, mix in a beta blocker.

>>674761779
It's the truth.

>>674761739
Nope.
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I was once hospitalized because I was under the impression that I was being experimented on by the CIA and that they were paying actors to come around me and do certain things to see if I would take certain gestures as an indicator that I would identify them as actors. This lasted for about a year and a half of my life. I was given the medicines diphenhydramine and chlonodine. I have since stopped taking them and realize that I was just delusional but it just seemed so certain then. My question is why through all of this had no doctor made any progress with me in any way. I'm sure that you've had similar patients but realistically think about what your system is when dealing with said patients. since your a psychologist you probably wont acknowledge the fact that nothing you do helps your patients they simply give you money because society expects them too.
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>>674761861
Science is not "brute force"
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>>674761861
>>>674761739 (You)
Nope.

Then what do?
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>>674762022
More like Trial and error :P
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>>674743149
What if you drink more water, eat healthy, and exercise more
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>>674761861
>hugs patients
nice... also fucked them?
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I almost lost a nut do to a torsion, I masturbated in an odd position and caused it to twist, the doctors saved my testicle and ever since I respect you guys so much. My family would call me left nut.
>>674743149
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>>674762022
Scientific discoveries often depend on luck, and almost all pharmacuiticals are developed by throwing millions of chemicals against assays, IE brute force.

Prozak was the first medication developed "intelligently", meaning we picked a receptor to try to hit first. LSD, for example, was pure luck.

So actually, science is often a breadth first search.

>>674762089
Go to a doctor and get started.

>>674761933
Uhh, I don't get money from patients.

>>674762100
Exactly.

>>674762230
Did that. Didn't work.

>>674762231
No.
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@OP i might recommend you meditation.
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>>674760871
I took it for three years and quit cold turkey no problem
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>>674762286
I'm not a doctor.
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>>674743149
what's your opinion/take on the widespread nature of anxiety/depression/bipolar disorders in america? Do you attribute it to our lifestyle, our drug use, or possibly better medicine, detection, and a more widespread cultural understanding of these illnesses?
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>>674762375
Meditation does nothing for me.
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>>674762471
I attribute it to our greatly enhanced about to diagnose and treat such disorders.
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>>674761861
what can beta blockers do for me? tnx for answering
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>>674762503
Ever tryed analytical therapy?
dunno what else helps... i love to go outside bicycling ona hot summerday, chill in a rural area at a lake and watch the sunset and listening to music... its aweseom :P
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>>674762089
It's not difficult to take medicine or go to the doctor. I have had problems with being delusional, depressed, insomnia, as well as an extremely high level of anxiety. one of the things Ive learnt about dealing with it is that people are completely capable of consciously changing and choosing there emotions it just takes practice and consistency. Your kind of being a pussy about life if you think the things you have to do to deal with mental illness are hard
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>>674762463
ur a fucking doctor when i say you're a fucking doctor, cunt muffin
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>>674762604
They block your beta instics and make you alpha as fuck
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>>674761498
Also as a reply to your first post, I've always wanted to pursue the field of psychology. But I had a sort of moral crysis when I realized that life can be pretty shit, I've dated people, and seen some stuff, children raped and abused in their households, with no way out, a broken system that throws them in hospitals and says here get better then go back to your rapist household. How do you tell someone like that everythings gonna be okay/help them along if you dont believe it yourself
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medication sucks

i have borderline personalit yidosrder

only thing thats cured me has been medical marijuana. I take a morning edible every day and all my symptoms are gone.

pills made it worst
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How do I cure depersonalization de realization disorder? Is lamictal alright? I'm also on Ativan. I feel like I'm high all the time even when I know I'm not. Like I'm in a persistent dream watching my life through a video game
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>>674762731

borderline personality disorder***
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>>674762344
>LSD, for example, was pure luck.
Bullshit.
We knew the effects of LSA.
Don't call stupid people relying on luck science.
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>>674762503
I don't think this person knows how to meditate
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