Is fox truly the best? Or could the perception be completely wrong?
could there be something fundamental that could change about the meta and suddenly he's forced below someone (not spacies or marth).
Or are the tier lists really just a farce?
Opinions pls
I question this because I use this motherfucker, and get a little discouraged when people tell me to just pick fox or a top tier.
I spy a Fox thread!
>>674678704
Don't feel discouraged. I pick kirby
>>674678401
Nahhh, falcos the way to go
lazers can beat about anybodys defense so ya
>>674679020
I want to make yoshi #1, but everyone seems to tell me that it's literally impossible to win a national.
>>674678401
No one cares. Melee is shit.
>>674679197
Learn to shield drop first
>>674679425
get gud
>>674679197
Play to learn but remember to still have fun!
I stopped playing Doc in tournament because I felt limited. After switch to Falcon, I've gotten better and learned how to handle myself in a match. If I stuck it out with Doc, I would've never improved in neutral.
Take breaks with top tiers but never forget the mid/low tier main you love. <3
fox vs fox final destination no items
>>674679020
Kirbi is a fucking beast
>>674679548
no like I mean I want to do shit like Starcraft levels of innovation, like flipping a whole paradigm on its head and coming out and beating people with an unorthodox pick
>>674679425
>64 4 lyfe
Also DK is my bro
yes but, if metaknight was in SSBM, where would he rank on the tier list?
>>674678401
Yes fox is the best. By a decent margin.
Honestly the only character I could see rising a lot in the future is yoshi if anyone wants to work on that jank ass fuck
>>674680386
purely kit wise? the best. The tools he has fucks up fast fallers so bad
>still fucking playing Melee
It's time to stop
>>674680409
I'LL BE LEADING THAT HYPETRAIN
>>674680521
Nah melee is the closest well get to a competitive Smash like game. Unless that Project Wavedash is gonna be any good
>>674680549
Good luck with that bro. As soon as someone masters parries and all of yoshi's jank ass tech he could be top 8-10
>>674680764
I mean, his parries are truly game breaking, if someone manages to make him blindingly fast, and can apply dj nair shield pressure frame perfectly, he could end up insane
>>674680947
Yeah TAS yoshi is dumb.
He'll never be pushed that hard anyways.
Also I stream/Play competitive melee. Ask me shit I'm bored
>>674679020
My buddies all main top tiers and they can't do shit about Kirby's ledge game. There's gotta be a way to prove kirby's not the worst, man.
>>674679197
Amsa already done it. Amsa's has beaten most of the gods, just with red yoshi. He pretty much proved that all you need to do is practice.
>>674681127
Highest you've gotten in a tournament?
>>674680409
I actually disagree. With immaculate movement, spacing, and punishes, falco's combo game is unbeatable.
>>674681355
He's down there dude. Kirby only has like 3-4 tools and it doesn't get him very far
>>674681446
Nah amsa is way overrated and plays way too flashy. Yoshi can be pushed much further. He needs a consistent way to deal with sheik
>>674681757
Melee - 4th
PM - 3rd.
My region is super stacked though
>>674681935
That's really a mid level players way of thinking. You really need to learn how to smash DI falco combos. It makes a lot of his stuff not true and read based
>>674678401
I play ice climbers and do pretty well in my local tournament but I think why fox is top tier is because he's overplayed
>>674681355
Kirby is below Pichu,
AND PICHU HURTS HIMSELF
>>674682436
>Immaculate movement
Tbh you can react to smash di and follow up 99% of the time, as long as you can get around the stage.
>>674682471
Of course you're gonna do well with ices at low level tournaments. Did you expect anything else?
>>674682436
What tournament did you get 4th in?
>>674682471
Ice climbers are only good because of the wobble, which imo is the gayest thing in the game
>>674682944
I also go to local smash Wii u tournament play as Wario
>>674682957
Just a melee local in Florida. Every who beat me was ranked and I beat bad people. I was happy with my performance
>>674682818
I mean if that's your reasoning any of the top 5 could be the best character.
Fox just has the best overall kit.
Also I'm not a top player by any means though. I'm a pretty good stream dude tho
>>674682748
Rest in peace my sweet prince
>>674683244
What's your twitch?
>>674683432
Pichus Nair is so fucking good tho.
It's the only thing putting him that high
>>674678704
just play whoever is the most fun. Thats all that matters, if you get upset losing then a higher tier may be more fun
This thread renewed my hope in my yoshi
I'm a top local player. fox is the best for pretty obvious reasons.
marth 2nd
falcon 3rd
sheik puff peach falco tied at 4th
but seriously you guys never thought what if the world isn't flat? (in the terms of fighting games).
Like a thought that's so far out there, but it just might be right. Like maybe we're playing this game in such a counterable way, that a whole new playstyle could develop just to counter what people have been doing for a decade
Fox is the best :3
>>674684767
Well, that brings up yoshi, because the hitbox of his grab literally dips out of the fuckin 2nd dimension and into the third, except on flatzone. This means it is a 3d game, in a sense, but otherwise I don't really know what you mean. There's nothing you can really do with that
Yeah probably, but if you don't play Falcon you'
re a confirmed homosexual
>>674685945
no I just meant a revolutionary thought, like the men who first wondered whether or not the world was really flat, now I wonder whether or not top tiers can be altered. I don't ever believe Kirby can be made THE BEST, but I don't believe fox is untouchable, nor are all of the top tiers, people have built this aura around them that I just can't see (or refuse to see)
Because in the end, it all boils down to players, and who has the best options in the end. You can either have the answer to every question (spacies in general) or have the unanswerable question (hungrybox w/ puff)
>>674684580
>Falcon 3rd
No.
>>674686178
>2016
>Not fighting for your friends
>>674687116
ETHER!
bumping because I love this thread
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUfyUgaPHqc
