Challenge for you
>>674633857
relaxing with a smoke then shot in the head?
Suicide. Obviously.
>>674633857
Murder, the gun is in his right arm, but he was clearly sitting at his seat facing the window, therefore the blood splatter wouldn't be on the right of him unless he was shot.
>>674633857
murder
cigarette is in the left hand, so would have had to face the table. and the shot came from the left side aswell.
>>674633857
Murder was in the midst of a cig n good ol gun cleaning when the murderer came in and bashed their head off the wall until they died.
Murder. Most people smoke with the cig in their dominant hand, an hero wouldn't be able to pull the trigger with non Dom hand.
No signs of a struggle. Gun and cigarette still in hand (death grip).
>>674633857
Murder.
>>674633857
Murdercide!
>>674633857
Murder. He was sitting in front of window and writing something and if it was suicide he would have gun in left hand not right hand to make that bloody stain
>>674634537
but the finger is not on the trigger
murder
>>674634506
>>674634434
>>674634402
>>674634302
>making assumptions
The facts support suicide.
Murder. Smokes with left hand. Would not shoot self with right hand. Pencil on table is on left hand side. So is drink. Victim left handed.
Case closed
>>674634799
what facts?
>>674633857
Probably rape. How much semen was found at the crime scene?
We need moar like this
I would probably murder someone but would like to hear how, why and when I must murder
>>674634799
But who was slipper?
He did a 360 and walked away
From life
>>674633857
murder, the lamp is unpllugged
>>674634825
I support this theory
>>674634506
Who cares? He is dead now and he isn't coming back.
>>674634731
Noice try
why are the glasses not on, and the lamp is not plugged in.
>>674633857
Murder
Gun is in the right hand and cig in the left. If she was sitting facing her ashtray and suicide note the blood splatter would be on the opposite wall. If she just wrote the note why is the lamp unplugged? She's also missing a flip flop, which is weird.
>>674634799
And im going to assume you are a nigger faggot.
>>674634731
You almost got it anon
Definitely murder
>>674634825
/thread
the position they were sitting in when they died doesn't make sense for a suicide, and the letter looks to be unfinished or rushed, was a murder.
>>674633857
hes left handed cuz of the cig its murder
>>674634825
Does he drink and write at the same time with one hand?
Stupid theory. People have two hands and if they arent making the best of both they deserve to be shot imho.
>>674633857
Murder. If she had shot herself, her corpse would have fallen to the left, since she was facing the mirror, smoking.
Murder, the victim was kneeling when he got shot.
>>674633857
The pen is pointed right on the left side of the note and the lamp is pointed left on the right side which makes it seem like the person who wrote the note was a lefty.
Murder. Cigarette is half finished so someone put it out.
Both. Do I really need to explain it again? Look it up.
I think he took his time wrote a suicide letter took off his glasses smoked one last smoke and shot himself
I'm not sure if I'm seeing right but if the ciggarate is lit it means that the person who killed him took the photo..
like no way cops would come to the scene in 2 minutes
>>674634825
OP here
I support that theory
>>674633857
Suicide.
He was facing away from window when he did it.
A gun is too difficult to place in left hand after murder.
Suicide. White people love to kill themselves
>>674634825
wrong. i smoke and ill take the cig in my left hand when im using my right hand for something. all the other shit you said is just bs
>>674636089
which country for kill? because in some countries suicide is against the law and that makes it a murder.
EVERYONE STOP TALKING! You're lowering the IQ of the whole internet with your bulls**t! It's an accident. She was writing with her pen (6), when she heard a sound in the house. She's american (8) so she decided to take her gun (1), crush her cigarette (5), turn off the light to sneak on the burglar (2), take her glasses off because they're useless in the dark (7) and check the house by herself. When she found nothing, she lit a new cigarette to calm down (10) and came back, still in the dark. She was drunk (3) so she tripped on her slipper (9), tried to catch up on her stool but failed (1) and crushed her head agains the wall (4). There is no bullet hole in the wall, and this stain is not a brain-blowing-bullet-stain. The fall from a standing position and the rotation induced by the catch-up tentative explain the weird position of the body. Ther is no murderer and no suicid note. Case closed, Sherlock out.
>>674633857
Who is this person?
Do they live here? Are they renting?
What does ballistics think? How far away was the gun fired from? Is there gunpowder residue in the hand? Which hand?
Whats the forensic report say? Were they killed by the bullet or dead before?
What did the neighbours hear? What do the neighbours know about the comings and goings of this residence and the people inside?
When was EMS called? Who called it? Can I listen to it and determine the state of mind of the person calling?
So many valid and useful questions that this picture can't answer.
>>674634825
Good job, Lieutenant.
>>674633857
Assisted Suicide
>>674634302
>>674634402
Like these two anons the blood spatter and positioning of gun show that it was unlikely that she shot herself.
But the fact that she had time to take her glasses off and write a suicide note plus drink a coke and have a fag suggest someone did it for her
>>674633857
It is obviously an image. There is no murder.
>>674633857
Murder. The plug is disconnected.
>>674636288
Picture
>>674633857
The blood on the wall is actually paint. The person has red hair. Prove me wrong.
>>674636297
>Who is this person?Do they live here? Are they renting?What does ballistics think? How far away was the gun fired from? Is there gunpowder residue in the hand? Which hand?Whats the forensic report say? Were they killed by the bullet or dead before?What did the neighbours hear? What do the neighbours know about the comings and goings of this residence and the people inside?When was EMS called? Who called it? Can I listen to it and determine the state of mind of the person calling?
Yes.
Murder. Lamp isn't pluged. So hé can't write à letter
>>674636288
where did you read that?
>>674636547
maybe she didn't want to see herself get killed?
The pen is to the left of the letter, indicating the author was left handed
Its a suicide since he was smoking a cig of stress of about to kill himself,also u cant see his head where the shot is so it doesn't matter what hand the gun is in and the electric plug is unplugged meaning when he fell it unplugged.
>>674636447
>9gag
Suicide
>>674634302
write note while smoking cigarette, look out of window, take off glasses, turn back to window and world. put gun to head, shoot.
If dubs then murder
>>674636719
Yeah?
And?
You jealous?
>>674633857
The murderer shot him in the head, planted the gun on the corpse, wrote a fake suicide note, smoked half a packet of cigarette, kicked a stool over, unplugged the lamp for some reason, and ran off clumsily leaving a flip-flop at the scene of the crime. It's obvious.
>>674636797
suicide it is then
>>674633857
The outlet is european
ergo no niggers
conclusion: not murder
go back to 9gag
>>674633857
Trick question: it's neither. Here's the real story:
>Feminazi/SJW
>Throws period blood against wall to protest gender oppression.
>Writes Tumblr post on paper because internets got raped away by misogynist ISP.
>Collapses on floor while holding a cigarette and her vibrator, sobbing about the patriarchy.
I think I've solved it.
>>674636841
You faggot?
>>674636841
if u gonna copypasta someone elses post, at least do it internally faggot
Suicide.
The cig is in the left hand because he had his hand busy writing the suicide letter.
>soda and pen in the left
so are the books in the right
>>674633857
suicide;
she has the cigarette in her left hand and if I'm correct most smoke with their least dominant hand
the pen is on the left so what? she was writing look where it ended to so the pen tipped over to the left because she was writing left to right
as for the blood stain? she shot herself in the right side so her body movement would be chaotic
as she fell it's quite possible she knocked the stool over
referring to the stain there's no bullet hole thus assuring she was shot on the right side of the head
the lamps unplug because the downward motion would rip the cord out
any questions?
Lamp is unplugged.
It is dark outside.
Victim was penning a suicide note in the dark?
Seems like murder, also blood spray-pattern and stool in wrong place, etc.
Murder. The gun is in her right hand and the blood is on the wall to her right. Unless she holds the gun weirdly, it was murder
>>674636986
The only faggots here are all the imbeciles saying it's suicide.
>Sherlock Out.
A homicide team enters a crime scene where a dead body of a fat old man lies there on the floor with blood oozing out of his head. The victim is holding a gun and a tape recorder lies there by his side. One of the detective picks up the recorder and plays it "I am tired of this life and hence I have decided to relieve myself from the worldly pains". A gunshot follows the message.
The teams starts investigating a murder investigation.
Why?
>>674634825
i write with left hand and shoot with right hand
bad theory
Murder. Pen is on the left side of the paper so they would possibly be left handed. Window is not opened so there is a possibility that they weren't smoking, just put there to make the victim look like they were stressed, and the suspect didn't want anyone seeing what was going on. Blood is to the right of the room but the gun is in the right hand, so the victim either faced away from the window or was murdered but we'll wait for the actually report on entry/exit wound.
>>674633857
can't see face , but if its a tranny then a well deserved suicide
Murder glasses would have been left on
Why is the chair under the shelf? She couldn't have been sitting on it. So why did she kick it over then roll it under the shelf, then shoot herself?
suicide
>by being shot on the right side of the head, had to be facing away from window
>cigs in left hand
>ashtray on right side if you put the stool up exactly where bottom legs are touching the floor
>if he was left handed, stool would have been more to the right
>dominantly right handed
>gun in right hand
>everything on right side of room for easier access
but wait, what about if it was murder?
>wouldnt have been shot directly in temple, more so in either back of the head or in front, but not directly in front or back
>blood splatter would have been more towards the corner
>books would be messed up
>blood would have been everywhere if murder, unless its low enough caliber to just pierce and penetrate
dont even know if that makes sense but it does to me and thats enough proof for mahself
Murder. He was sitting on the atool facing the window. The gun is in his right hand but the bloood spatter would only be consistent if he shot himself with the gun in his left hand
>>674633857
murder
only because I cant think of a explanation for that stool being knocked over and in that spot on the floor if it were a suicide, other than it was already like that
>>674633857
Murder. It makes no sense that her chair is where it is. If it were a suicide she would have fallen forward.
Also she didn't finish writing what she wanted to write since she has 2 pages unfilled.
>>674633857
Neither.
>walks into room
>a lit cigarette?
>picks it up
>a gun?
>picks it up
>sees blood on wall
>faints
>>674637114
where did you get th cigarette thing from everyone i know changes hands as there smoking
>>674637261
or murder....
>>674633857
Suicide
>bottle in the trash Vic was drinking
>chain smoking while writing a letter
>no damage or mess or signs of struggle other than chair
>glasses where placed on desk neatly before shot was taken
>Vic is right handed and turned away from desk and shot or turned and put gun in mouth with back to wall
>pen supports right handed writing while smoking with left
>>674636297
Only valid post.
There's a reason nobody walks around trying to solve crimes by looking at things and guessing.
Hard evidence is necessary, this is all just an exercise in conjecture.
>>674633857
Murder, he/she is left handed. Note the cigarette, positioning of the pen/ Coke, ash tray smokes everything is on the left but the murder weapon and blood splatter suggest right handed use.
Murder.
The position of the blood shows that he was on the stool when he got shot (we can't know if he was looking at the desk or not).
The stool plane is at the level of his spinal column, but usually when you fall from a stool (since your ass was camping over it) the stool seat should be at any level under your butt. Also the body cannot move in front of the stool that much after falling. A four legs stool with such wide legs is also very unlikely to fall to begin with.
>>674633857
Probably murder. The cigerrete is in her left hand implying she is left handed, but the gun is in her right hand. Additionally, the pen on the paper is in a position implying she wrote the note with her left hand (if it was rotated 180 degrees it would imply she wrote it with her right hand) further implying she's left handed.
>>674633857
Suicide. He was smoking and died of cancer.
>>674637114
I dunno about you but I'd rather shoot with my dominant hand. Shot placement is important, you don't wanna suffer for hours or end up retarded.
>>674633857
Murder.
Did I win?
>>674637576
You must be fun at parties.
>>674633857
Y'all fucking retarded right
Look at the letter, He was writing with his left hand but gun is in right hand. Get off me mate
>>674637576
no, its a puzzle. drawn with clues. its a fucking drawing with clues.
everyone knows this aint a real murder. fuck off faggot, go post gay stuff in your gay threads.
>>674637524
ash tray is on left so you could assume she smokes mainly with her left i don't smoke so i wouldn't know
Gee isn't that weird? I can think of a thousand reasons why someone who wanted to kill himself would want to have one last cigarette... but for the life of me, I can't think of a single good reason why he wouldn't finish it.
>>674635597
Do you smoke? Because yes, if you have an ashtray (like she does) you can use the same hand to drink and smoke.
>>674637167
Since the tape was conveniently re-winded, something shady had to happen.
>>674633857
suicide. If she has a gun and it was murder chances are she would be on the defensive and the murderer wouldnt be able to make a clean headshot like that
>>674637576
youre thinking too much into it. since its a simple game, you assume that thats their house.
and for the rest, obviously if you knew all that shit you WOULD be able to figure it out, which defeats the purpose of making it a game
>>674634825
As a lefty, I would most likely shoot myself with my right hand, but it would be under my jaw instead of against my temple.
>>674637964
no?
killing yerself is fucking hard, you gotta force yerself to do it in the moment you are most determined.
that could well be during a siggy.
clearly you never killed yourself before so fuck off faggot.
>>674636288
>drinking Coke is American
>>674633857
>blood spatter on right wall
>gun in right hand
Either this guy wanted it to look like a murder or it was a murder
>>674633857
>sitting there reading
>see fly on wall, attracted by lamp
>unplug lamp, fly doesn't leave
>try to burn it with cigarette, miss
>swat at it with sandal, miss
>throw stool at it, miss
>fire gun at it, miss
>smash bottle of red wine on it, miss
>throw wine bottle in garbage in disgust
>lie down in defeat
>women can't aim
>>674633857
Murder, both the pen and the cigarette indicate that the person is left handed. Gun was probably planted on the person.
>>674634825
You guys are assuming he shot himself whilst he was sat. What if he got up and faced the other way and then shot him self. Also it is easy to smoke with secondary hand
>>674636937
This
>>674633857
Suicide
>smoking final sig, writing suicide note
>when done turns around in stool
>gun to side of head
>bang, dude is now kill
A murderer would have to turn an armed person around in the chair, place the against the side of the head and shoot. Doesn't make any sense.
Everything in the scene suggests a suicide.
>>674638059
because getting killed by those you trust or don't expect it from, never happens..
>>674634825
try writing at that angle lefty
>>674634799
>facts
kek'd
It was a murder.
She was sitting at her desk, writing something when she was shot.
The person who murdered her (probably after a night of drinking) then put a cigarette and gun in her hand, which both would have fallen out of her hands if she did it herself.
But the real "smoking gun" is that the gun is in the wrong hand
>>674638252
so she still alive??
fucking epic plot man, I like it
>>674633857
Murder. Pen is where a southpaw would hold it, the gun would fly out of his hand
>>674633857
He not dead, only passed out from excessive masturbation (which explains the red splat on the wall)
>>674638706
The fly killed her
>>674633857
Murder!
Blood splatter is to low for a suicide shot...
>>674635510
If the letter was of consequence, the murderer would have stolen the letter and destroyed/disposed of it.
>be me
>21 7/10 qt 3.14
>writing another memoir while having a ciggy
>also have coke
>take off my glasses
>eyes are strained from writing
>stranger enters room
>turn around to see who it is
>blurry-vision.gif
>flinch at the site of a man holding a gun
>shoots me right side of temple
>die
>places gun in my hand
>bullet on the table
>i never got to finish this gre
If she shot herself, why isn't the cigarette in her mouth? If she wasn't going to smoke it as she died, she would have put it out.
>>674638761
>>674638357
>>674638226
What if ambidextrous?
>>674637167
Because he wouldn't have been able to rewind the tape.
>>674638893
There was no fly.
>just Trump anxiety
>>674638043
>auto rewind
>since 1973
>>674636944
I wish this was true
>>674633857
One flip flop? Lamp unpluged implys it was put back on the shelf. Cigarette is in the left hand, gun is in the right, implys she is left handed and gun was put in her hand. Pen also on left side.
And her tits are really small, and has a manly frame, someone probly pulled down her pants and found out that her penise isn't a feminine one, thus, was murdered.
>>674633857
suicide beucase that person has sideways electrical sockets.
>>674634825
follow the blood
>>674639077
or the murderer wrote a suicide note...
>>674639400
rewind is bullshit, but somebody had to stop the recording though. case closed
>>674633857
Suicide.
The lamp isn't plugged in and it's dark outside, so whatever they were writing is irrelevant because it was done a long time ago.
The trash is overflowing, leaves falling off the plant, cigarette butt on the counter, random flip flop on the floor. This person was probably depressed.
My guess is they sat down facing their dirty disgusting house and realized they just couldn't take their shitty life anymore so they pulled the trigger.
>>674639614
>Suicide.
>My guess is
well done anon
>>674633857
Murder, gun is in her right hand, buy blood splatter is on her right side, murderer shot her from the left and put the gun in her right.
She wasn't writing at all, the lamp isn't plugged in and it is dark outside!!
>>674637442
>be me
>planning suicide in the morning
>sit down at favorite stool overlooking garden
>light up a cigarette with my left hand because I'm not a faggot
>drink a coke
>it's flat so I set it down obnoxiously far away and to the left as not to absent mindendly pick it up again.
>writers block
>i learned on /b/ that minimum of 3 pre planned pages are required for suicide note
>pick up gun with empty hand for inspiration
>must not leave blank pages
>unplug lamp to sit in dark and think
>cannot waste paper
>despair and sadness set in at the thought of unused writing materials
>what's that in my foot?
>I'm only wearing one fucking flip flop
>kill myself
>>674633857
the most important aspect is that a chair is under the table instead of being nearby it.
Suicide. When your body goes limp while sitting you either fall forwards or backwards. Seeing how the chair is positioned, he fell backwards. He was facing the wall opposite of the blood, put the gun in his mouth and shot himself.
>>674633857
If he was sitting on the stool when he shot himself, he would've dropped the gun when he fell over. It wouldn't still be in his hand.
Anyone notice how there's no bullet in the wall?
>>674633857
Why is the gun in the right hand if the left hand is dominant?
>>674639937
/thread
Its a murder. The light is unplugged, he didn't wrote his suicide note.
>>674634302
The body position suggests they could have turned away from the window, nothing here guarantees they were facing the window.
>>674638252
>>674639545
Right, because recordings don't stop when the tape runs out...
>millennial detected
>never recorded on tape
>never played tape
>never rewound tape
>>674640111
who says the left is dominant?
>>674638252
I think you may be right.
>>674639937
OP here
/thread
JK
Continue anons
>>674639937
kek
>>674633857
Murder.
A gun is more likely to be in the dominant hand than the cigarette, so if it was suicide, they faced away from the letter. Of minor consequence, a cigarette would most likely be in between the victim's lips, whether it was suicide or an execution, meaning the attack was more spontaneous.
Most damning of all is the pen. The gun implies the victim is right handed, but the location of the pen in relation to the suicide note would indicate they were left handed.
We could be dealing with a serial killer, as only the right flip flop is present. The left flip flop must have been taken as a trophy. The rest of the room is too neat to imply one strayed from the other to such an extent. In fact, it's likely that the victim was wearing their flip flops at the time of the murder.
Suicide. I made that image :D
>>674633857
The lad is smoking fags, his death drive was clearly far more immense than your average person.
>>674640231
brool cory sto, implying tape lasts 10 seconds.
What a waste of space.
>>674640578
This. Is. The. Most. Wonderful. Thing. After. Argo.
>>674634825
I smoke with my left hand but I'm right handed so you can't just make assumptions like that. It was suicide. The lad was enjoying his last smoke before killing himself.
>>674638439
But what if the person tried to escape after seeing the murderer
>all these people amusing is a woman
check again faggots
>>674640578
The Flipflop-killer....
the plot thickens guise!
>>674636779
Why keep the cigarette.
He's not going to finish it.
>>674639537
MODS
kek
>>674636297
Bullshit your damn self!!
IF she fell the framed painting\mirror would have moved on impact.
A falling person would have dropped the cigarette.
If looking for someone in your home, gun would be in dominant hand.
Last but not least she is NOT an Amerifag but a Europoor or Brasilfag from the type of electrical outlet.
SO she was murdered with out a clue it was even coming. Height of spray is consitent with her in the seated position (though there doesn't appear to be a bullet hole). Still smoking while writing her suicide note and fiddling with her weapon...
*drops donut, turns 360 and walks out*
>>674638218
>clearly you never killed yourself before so fuck off faggot.
I'm your reincarnated father. Moments after you were born I killed myself, and my personal hell is that I have to deal with you on an indoensian cave painting discussion board.
>>674633857
Courtney did it
>>674634095
Takes a drag never releases it.
I think were either looking at a suicide note.
Or a he was replying to someone when he got shot by someone else and framed for suicide.
>>674640897
wrong person
>>674633857
Suicide. You can tell by the pink short shorts.
He couldn't live with himself after his family disowned him for coming out as homosexual. He tried to make it on his own as a freelance artist renting a studio apartment in downtown LA but it didn't work out and his savings ran dry.
Case closed.
>>674634825
You're assuming far too much, you state facts that support your theory & fail to see & combine all facts together. Sure the drink & pencil are on the left side-- but have you noticed how the paper is placed on the table? It is slanted to the left, therefore the man is not left handed. Try writing with your right hand when the paper is slanted to the right, it is unconventional. I drink with my left hand, smoke with my left hand & yet I am right-handed. It ought to be treated as suicide until it is proved to be a murder. Logic is about being precise & having true premises with a valid conclusion that follows & assuming will not take us there.
>>674633857
I want to say neither because of the placement of everything. The case is a shooting hence the gun being present in the "victim's" hand. The position of the body, chair, shell casing and blood splatter are rather inconsistent for it to be labeled as a pure suicide but I can't make a correct judgement since I can't see the victim's face. The placement of the gun,shell and blood are making me really rethink the suicide label because the casing is on the counter, the blood is directly behind the victim and the way the victim is holding the gun don't add up. However, I don't know the reasoning besides the papers on the table. The body's placement and the chair suggest they were sitting facing away from the wall yet the gun and shell are very wierdly placed, they're holding the gun still but if it was actually suicide they'd have dropped it but the shell is really throwing me off so I can't say for sure but my guess would have to be neither
>>674641382
Topfucking kek.
All other theories-- go home. This one takes the win.
>>674633857
Obviously murder.
>Smoking a cigarette but not finishing it.
You smoke that last one to reflect on your existence. Every drag bringing you closer to the inevitable faith that's been building up for years. You enjoy it. Take in every drag as you inch yourself toward sweet salvation. The last thing you do on this godforsaken planet is kill yourself before killing yourself. Because the slow suicide didn't come quick enough.
Obvious.
>>674641076
+1 internet for you anon!
>>674634799
Why would the gun in be in his right hand if it was suicide? He would've had to reach around his head to shoot himself if it was consistent with the evidence (especially the blood splatter and the cigarette in his left hand, the position of the note and ashtray). There's literally no way you can make any real conclusions without examining the body or looking at ballistics. Of course the picture obfuscates the top half of his head to turn this into bait too.
>>674633857
>light not plugged
murder definitely, nobody sees without light because seeing is based on there being light for you to see with... therefore murder is the answer
Murder, and what's more, the killer was a retarded nigger! Elementary!
>>674641538
How about you kill yourself along with him pal because this is a case of suicide.
>>674641603
It's logical to assume that you wouldn't reach around your head to shoot yourself.
there's no bullet hole in the wall you fuckwits. the gun hasn't even been fired. they most likely just tripped on that flip flop and hit their head because the lamp was unplugged
neither murder or suicide. (unless the flip flip an lamp were set up on purpose? spooky shit)
>>674633857
The blood stain looks like it hit the wall from the bottom and sprayed up. She was drunk, fell off the stool, and accidentally shot herself because women shouldn't be allowed to touch guns.
>>674633857
left handed. its pretty obvious
>he's holding his cigarette in the left hand, ashtray on the left, pencil dropped on the sheet as it was hold by the left hand, coke can on the left
he's holding the gun in the right hand
he was facing the window
>again, the cigarette
bloodstain on his right, means the shot came from the left, or front, if he had the time to turn around (even tho we can't see the impact on his head)
>again, pistol in right hand
>_murder
Cucked
>>674641724
Ay. Let me just finish this smoke real quick.
>>674641354
Ahh fuck and on phone so can't link them. To lazy to care so fail for me!
>>674641820
Gotta have suspension of disbelief somewhere. Otherwise, it's likely the victim's torso is backwards. Either that or we're dealing with a world class contortionist.
>>674641603
The shell anon, you forgot the shell
Anyone that says murder is retarded.
>>674633857
What Is an MDK? Alex
Why is it dark out one window and light out the other?
>>674633857
i used to fuck a murderer.
she'd come over sometimes while her boyfriend was away after school.

once the door would close she'd almost instantly get naked. most times she'd put on her favorite song and start sucking. then she would cry. her tears and makeup would drip down her face onto my dick. its surprising how cold tears are. eventually i finally asked her what was wrong. in between licks she told me that her favorite song was also her bfs favorite song. so even though she loved hearing it and it totally got her pussy wet, it also made her think about the fact that she was cheating on her boyfriend. i dont think i ever came harder down somebodies throat then right after she told me that. she was beautiful. we dont hang out anymore. wanna get lunch?

this was the song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tgwFpMA61c
>>674633857
Everyone here is retarded. Crimes aren't solved by looking at one angle of the scene. Too many unknown variables. No one is asking what was being written? No one has determined time of death/time body was found? Fucking amateurs.
>>674641933
oh wait, i forgot the most important, no bullet impact on the wall
plus the fact that he couldn't fell of his stool like that after being shot in the face
>doabarrellroll.jpg
>>674633857
Murder
>guy is left handed (pen on left of paper)
>gun is in right hand
>cigarette half finished
>knocked over stool, clue of struggle
Assuming he ate the barrel, the blood splatter on the wall indicates he was backed up pretty close to the wall, i.e intimidated by shooter.
not sure what to think of single flip flop
>>674633857
murder. blood is on the wrong side for gun in hand.
If you've ever seen someone actually get shot in the head with a small caliber handgun, it dosen't splatter. Referencing the fat dude that painted his face and shot himself in the head hoping it would paint the wall behind him.
Muh dick
suicide... i would never hurt anyone ever
>>674642285
One is a mirror.
That explains both actual reasons and philosophical reasons.
>>674642134
Yes, casings, forensics, etc. Just this picture is totally inadequate for any real conclusions. Just 8/8 b8
Is there a correct answer to this or is OP a faggot?
>>674637114
>she has the cigarette in her left hand and if I'm correct most smoke with their least dominant hand
absolute bullshit
>>674633857
My opinion is murder. Gun shot wound and hand in which the weapon is being held. Also the splatter on the wall coincides with the gunshot wound and not the hand that pulled the trigger. So either either..
1. Suicide and someone came along and switched trigger hands
or
2. Murder and someone tried to make it look like suicide
or
3. Im a moron and over analyze and took the bait.
>>674642334
its justa game about observation, not a criminal autopsy test for medico-legal surgeons for fucks sake.
>>674633857
If she was writing a suicide note at night, why is the lamp unplugged?
>>674633857
Murder. No one smoking is going to blow their brains out, they'd kill someone else.
Hi. Don't forget friends. When we can't explain something then, our Lord and Savior must have willed it. Amen? Fuck yeah! Amen!
>>674642972
It came unplugged when she fell
its suicide becus he has a gun in his hand, and b4 shooting him self he wrote a note down, which is there on the table
>>674634825
>>674634825
why would she shoot at an intruder with her weak hand and still hold a cigarette?
>>674633857
Murder. The guy was clearly Left handed, everything on the desk is setup in a way that would show left hand dominance. The soda can, the ash tray to they way the pen which he was writing with is laying. Why then would the gun be in the Right hand and the blood splatter be indicating it should have been in the Left hand if it was a suicide. It was Murder.
>>674633857
the biggest reason for murder is that the person is perfectly gripping the gun, and the cig is also held btw fingers. If it was a suicide both would fall out of hand. This indicates that the murderer placed both to make it seem like suicide.
>>674642779
I smoke with my least dominant hand
>>674643091
Doubtful.
The force of her falling was enough to unplug a lamp, but not enough to spill her drink?
>>674633857
Murder
The smoker is left handed
you can tell from the pen and position of the ash tray and the hand her cig is in
She wouldn't have shot herself with her right hand
>>674643129
you literally think at the lowest level possible for a human, you skim the surface, get the wrong answer they want you to think is right then blurt it out. I bet you vote Trump
>>674643412
Arm could have caught the cord
>>674641820
See my previous post>>674641518
>>674643365
The only way to know for sure is ask friends and family what hand they smoked with.
>>674633857
Murder. The blood splatter is in the opposite direction from the hand holding the gun.
>>674637964
as a smoker, if i were in this picture and finished the cigarette, id be counting 5 minutes longer to have another cigarette while telling myself "this is actually my last one this time"
>>674642430
Looks like a desert eagle tbh but since the victim's head is obscured, we can't really tell
>>674633857
Who cares. A corpse is a corpse, of course of course
the note looks quite short like a farewell msg after writing her msg , she turned 180 degree which explains her posture on the floor
closeness of the gun to the skull .... we are talking abt a pistol her. she must have brought the gun very close to her head because that's the only way a pistol can penetrate both sides of the human skull ...
if she was murdered, I believe her medicated glass will be on the floor with her body , but on the contrary it was neatly kept.
she obviously took her last cigarette for some courage to pull the trigger,
if she was murdered both the cigarette and the gun would have fallen off but they didn't cos she lost consciousness very fast ... sucide
>>674643839
>projecting insecurities
>>674634825
I smoke with my left hand. I'm right handed.
>>674633857
Murder Obviously. Look at the hand with with the cigarette. The blood a splatter would be on the other side if the gun was in that hand
>>674633857
murder
two reasons
>one: person faces window, blood splatter is wrong for position
>two: person faces into room, blood splatter would be correct, but person is too tall, sitting or standing
>>674643259
/thread
Murder: the gun would've dropped from the hand if the head was as high as the blood spatter, from the drop alone, not to mention the loss of grip. Killer placed the gun in the victim's hand like an idiot.
>>674633857
Murder. He stood up in a panic as you can see on the chair, Then got shot closer to the wall. Way to little blood on the wall for it to have come from suicide while sitting on the chair
>>674633857
The gun is in his right hand but the blood spatter is on the right side of the wall, opposite to where the blood splatter should be. Murder duh
to me the pen is the clue.
she could have shot herself with the right hand with her back agianst the table, but if you look at the pen she clearly writes with her left. Then it would make no sence to shoot her self with the right hand. To conclude: we have a MURDER
Turned to shoot someone. Murderer shot first, causing the victim to reflexively pull the trigger which left the cartridge on the windowsill. Got shot in the head as they were rising and turning, explaining the bodies position and the blood splatter. The note is an explanation that someone was trying to kill them
>>674644207
/thread
Only smart person in the thread, except for me
masked murder
light is unplugged, yet he was supposedly writing something, probably a suicide letter, if he needs glasses he also need the fucking light, the letter is faked to make it look like a suicide, same with the gun and cigarette, gun is in the wrong hand and you'd shoot and smoke with your dominant hand... so the cigarette would probably be in his mouth instead
the pen on the table makes it also seem that he is left handed, and the bloodstain on the wall, hence the gun in the wrong hand
also window could have been open since he was smoking, though maybe he wanted to go a little quieter for some stupid reason
the cigarette and gun would have fallen of his hands, right?
>>674644383
Further, the right hand has the gun, but the blood spatter is on the right side from the seated position. The soda is also unopened, which begs the question: why get a soda you don't intend to consume?
>>674634302
this. he was sitting there supposedly writing the note so the splatter would be behind him. also, the cigarette doesn't make sense as he would have had time to put it out in the ashtray.
>>674644735
He wore the mask in case the murder wasn't successful and his victim could identity him, dumbfuck
Murder, if he killed himself while sitting we would not be able to see the blood from this angle
Idk tbh
wheres the lighter?
>>674644039
Flawed on so many levels. The victim didn't turn 180° they turned 90. They are left handed meaning that if they were to shoot themselves, they would use the dominant hand but it is in the right hand and if you didn't kno, pulling the trigger on a gun with the least dominant hand is extremely difficult even if you used ur dominant one it would still be a near impossible feat. Also if you kill yourself you will lose all feelings in ur nerves, making it impossible to hold anything after death dumbass
>>674643670
Her arm would've had to do a very unnatural twist backwards in order to catch the cord. When someone is shot in the head, the body's first instinct is to fold inwards, not jerk backwards.
Also, it's a small thing, but the fact that the folder is out of place is bugging me. You had time to write a note but not to fix one folder? It's out of place.
Also, the method of killing is strange, most women choose methods like pills, running the car in the garage, etc. suicide by gun is almost an exclusively male method of suicide.
>>674644705
Nice meme
>>674645040
learn to read
>>674644705
See previous post>>674641518
Ur not the only ones
>>674633857
There isn't enough information to draw a conclusion. There are only a few things I notice that lend any real evidence to either side.
1. There's blood splatter on the wall but no visible bullet hole. If the person was shot in the head and that was what caused the splatter then there would be an entrance and exit wound and the bullet should have hit the wall and made a hole. There is no hole.
2. There is no bullet casing on the floor. Perhaps it's under the person's body or fell somewhere else and is not visible. No conclusions can be made there.
3. The person is still holding their cigarette. If another party was involved it is likely the cigarette would have been dropped instead of being held on to.
4. There appears to be a written note on the desk which could be a suicide note. Then again, it could be a poem about how much this person loved life.
5. The chair is tipped over which means the person was likely sitting in it at the time of their death and was knocked over as the person fell off of it. Again, in the case of foul play it is more likely the person would have been standing.
6. There appears to be a wine bottle in the trash bin. Though no conclusions can be drawn from this alcohol consumption is often associated in cases of suicide.
My guess would be that this is a suicide. The person wrote a suicide note, turned around in there chair to take one final look at his/her surroundings, took a final drag off their cigarette, and then shot him/herself in the right side of their head which caused the bullet to exit the left side of their head and make the splatter on the wall as well as cause the body to fall to the left, from the person's perspective. The splatter would also be at level with their head if the person was seated which means the trajectory of the bullet, the head, and the splatter would all line up. Had the person been executed the splatter would have been at a lower angle.
>>674644698
Possible
>>674634825
I don't know man, as a lefty I can say that I would never angle the paper like that it would actually be more comfortable if it was the other way...
>>674644735
I make a correction, he was facing a way from the window, considering the position of the chair and his orientation
its a trick, they are faking it, there i no way the fingers would be able to grasp the cig after death like that still holding it up off the ground.
>>674633857
Glass under the flower
Mean it was moved after the shot
Murder
>>674645184
I'm basing it on where the hand is, inches away from the outlet and cord. I think it's unlikely too, but if a person managed to have their arm fall into that position, then they could have unplugged it without disturbing anything else on the desk.
>>674645812
lefty here, obviously depends how centered the paper is
>>674645491
Nope, still the only ones
is it a boy or a girl?
>>674636673
That is bullshit. If you are writing right handed, and decide to stop and leave the pencil right there, it would end up in the same place.
>>674646089
The person was not left handed. They wrote with their right hand and held their cigarette/drank with their left.
>>674646230
I vote girl
>>674633857
murder, notice the pen is on left side of paper, he is holding cig in left hand, gun is in right, blood splatter would be on left side not on right wall.
Victim is Ginger. Victim contemplated suicide, gun pulled it's own trigger out of pity.
>>674646345
either way, he's dead now
>>674633857
he's left handed. the pen is on the left side of the paper and the ashtray is over there. he was smoking with his dominant hand.
who shoots a gun with their non dominant hand? murder
>>674634825
>Pencil on table is on left hand side. So is drink. Victim left handed.
I support this, enough to open a case file at least. Riggs and Jablowmie, you are on the case and I dont wanna hear shit about how close you are retirement.
>>674646054
To continue:
I think the gun and cigarette were placed in her hands and the body position was contrived, so then murder.
I agree it would seem an unnatural way to fall for suicide, but was just commenting on the ability possibility of the cord being able to be unplugged without disturbing anything else
I say murder, he/she placed the pen down at the left of the paper, but the victim is holding the gun is his/her right hand. Clearly the left hand is dominant. If he or she were to kill themself, they would their dominant to shoot. And the victim would've been shot from the right whilst sitting on the stool. There is no way the victim would've shoot themselves using a right hand and leave a blood splatter on the wall.
in short, the murder is a fucking idiot and does not know how to research how dominant hands work. Probably a nigger who couldn't afford the internet.
>>674633857
Strictly speaking, there's not enough evidence there for either. Could be a redhead taking a nap in a messy room. No wounds are visible.
>>674633857
not enough info
>what does the note say
>are there any one elses prints on the gun
>did any one have reason to want him dead or would gain from his death?
>are there any marks on the floor or wall to indicate a struggle or if he was spun around?
>how many spent casings are there?
>how many times was he shot?
>what was the cause of death?
>is there any blood splatter on the gun or the hand the gun is in?
>who is the last known owner of the gun?
>is there any gun shot residue on him, if so where?
>were there any witnesses, visual or audible?
>>674646996
Faggot. Look at the angle of the paper, that's an angle right handed people write at. Now, grab a pen with your right hand, and put it down right on the paper... it would end up with the tip facing right, just like that one.
>>674633857
Temporary solution to a permanent problem
>>674633857
Murder. Enzymes in mud destroyed DNA evidence on knife.
>>674633857
The Person would have been smoking whilst writing, writing would take the dominant hand. Then, when done with note, but not yet with cigarette, they put the pen down, picked up the gun with the same hand and blows brains out.
TL;DR not left handed
>>674647237
I'm a lefty but often write with the paper like that, more than that the lamp would cause his palm/fingers to cast an annoying shadow on the paper, just where he was writing if he was right handed, I know from experience
Murder
Pen,cigarettes,and soda are on the left so the victim was most likely left handed. The gun is in the right hand so if they shot themselves the blood splatter would be on the left not the right.
The position of the stool in the pictures is off as fuck. If it just fell over, then the two feet touching the ground are essentially in the same spot where they were touching while the stool was standing, meaning it was a lot further off to the left than makes sense, which also means that the blood splatter on the wall is too small for the given position where the victim would have been sitting. On top of this, the lamp is unplugged, meaning it wasn't being used, and the victim is also missing a sandal entirely.
My call on this is murder, but the body was moved and the blood we see in the picture was either planted artificially, or it's the product of a completely different murder and the murderer swapped the bodies and arranged the scenes to confuse investigators.
>>I believe the suitcase contains a record player, a Crosley, purchased sometime in the last 3 years, likely newer than 18 months due to lack of wear, no newer than 6 months judging by the number of records you have. This would suggest you are pretty in touch with artsy culture. The multicultural art backs this up. The lego figures put the age younger than 30. The books you have suggest intelligence and that you read for enjoyment much of the time. The state of the carpet contrasts the state of the shelf, suggesting that there is a focus on doing and feeling things rather than looking the best.
Due to the 'us' portion of the question and the harmony of the different things on the shelves I suspect a young couple, adventurous and quite happy together.
>>674636288
>>674647551
Even if this were remotely true the lamp wasn't plugged in asshole.
>>674634302
Legs facing away from window, dummy. Body cant do a 180 before landing.
>>674633857
1) the pen on the table looks like it was used by a left-handed but the corpse is right-handed
2) the finger on the trigger is relaxed but it should be hooked (post mortem cramps etc)
3) it seems there is blood spilling from the entrance wound but if you shot yourself the wound would be cauterized by the shot and there would be blood only in the exit hole of the skull, On the contrary this doesn't happen if you get shot from a distance
It was a murder
>>674633857
murder, everything is too neat otherwise
>>674647765
well that's another issue, the shadow thing is true however so fuck you
the lamp+paper placement are just not good for right handed writing
>>674647237
Are you that fucking retarded? How would grabbing a pen with a right hand and putting it down leave the tip facing right? It would be facing left.
>>674648063
Nice m8. Seconded
>>674648063
This
>>674643704
Yeah they'll definitely remember that.
>>674633857
Position of the pen in relation to the paper suggests left handed. Gun is in right hand. Possibly because left hand is occupied
Lack of blood spatter on any surface other than wall suggests complete through-and-through. Not possible in a short range shot.
Window suggests night-time. Pen and letter suggests victim was writing. Night-time writing most probably required lamp. Lamp unplugged - no reason to unplug unless trying to save money. Trying to save money suggests unwillingness to end own life.
>>674647629
I am right handed and I put everything on my desk on the left side.
At restaurants, I put my drinks on the left side too.
>>674643950
Jesus Christ, calm down Crowley
>>674633857
People don't kill themselves without socks on.
MURDER
>>674648256
That is bullshit. Unless you have a floodlight, it doesn't make a powerful enough shadow to make it bad.
>>674648063
Shit! i didn't noticed the finger anon. That's a good point.
>>674648610
This suggests mental illness. Get help.
>>674646770
Look at the position of the paper, try being left-handed and writing on it. The person smokes with their left because they were using their dominant hand to write. Which is also the hand that they shot themselves with. It was suicide for fucks sake. The person already has a death drive , why wouldn't he just end it all.
>>674639537
sauce?
>>674648835
I spend many hours a day with a desklamp facing on my papers, I'm not pulling this shit from my ass, I can see what's in the shadow, of course but it's very annoying to have everything but what you are working on lit
>>674648945
Are you serious? I'm kind of scare now. Please don't be lying to me I don't want to go crazy
The splatter couldn't have gotten that high on the wall if it was a murder.
>>674649123
Listen here you son of a bitch. We're trying to solve this case & you're over here asking for fucking sauce. Sauce on some bitch from Tennessee named Deborah Holbrook. Get the fuck out of my crime scene you noob.
>>674633857
She shot herself:
Left side of pick there's an ashtray; cigarette in left-hand.
For a clear perspective, let's say the desk-light is north ; blood-splatter is east; chancla is south; left side of pic is...well, west.
Lady sits on chair, turns her direction toward west, points gun aiming at forehead(aiming east), shoots herself, falls off of the let side of her chair, then lands I an unnatural position, making it seem as though it was a murder-- when it wasn't.
Guns in the wrong hand. Murder
>>674649460
my fucking grammar sucks but that's besides the point.
>looks like a spic
>no one gives a fuck
>case closed
YOU ALL ARE RETARDED
THERE IS NO BLOOD ON THE GUN
FINGER IS NOT ON THE TRIGGER
JESUS CHRIST YOU ALL ARE STUPID
>>674649460
>chancla
/thread
From all of the murder shit i look at suicides usually arent able to keep the gun in thier hand when you get a bullet in the brain all your muscles relax. So either murder or cover up / assisted suicide. But thats just one thing
Does she have any nudes?
>>674649686
It's alright pal. Your theory is better than most of these autistic murder-supporters
>>674648385
Like this, faggot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8_jPKdqhng