What does /b/ think of vegans?
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What does /b/ think of vegans?
>>674373503
autism scum
they are kill
>>674373503
I couldn't give less of a fuck what other people eat
fuck them, especially the ones who like to shove it down people's throats the fact that they don't eat meat
>>674373503
nothing wrong with it if they're not triggered autists about it. it's a hard unfulfilling lifestyle choice that i would never recommend, but most if not all of your necessary nutrients can be consumed by strict dietary planning. it's stupid, but not the worst unless they get all booty tickled about meat being eaten infront of them.
>>674373503
Sauce?
>>674373503
Rolling
>>674373503
Mostly they're annoying since they seem incapable of shutting up about their dietary habits.
>>674374289
Is there another kind?
>>674373503
attention whoring whiteknight fucks.
except the others.
>>674373503
Oh my God, who the hell cares?
>>674373503
I think that they'll live more than us meat-eater. Everyone make his choice, and if they don't bother other people they are ok
>>674373503
https://www.change.org/p/psychological-recovery-clinic-scarbourough-family-of-this-individual-vegan-gains-to-be-admitted-for-psychological-help
>>674373503
I like vegans. The iron and vitamin B12 deficiency means they can't run away.
Are they tumblr-tier hipsters who try to use their diet as a tool to assert moral dominance? If not then I respect them.
>>674373503
I actually have more respect for vegans than vegetarians tbh. At least they stick by a moral code of kindness to animals, not like milk-drinking veggies who like to overlook the fact that any male calves from that milk producing cow were slaughtered out of hand.
>hot blooded carnivore here btw.
>>674375337
Also, people that will quite happily eat beef but scorn veal: "oh those poor baby cows! That's so cruel; I won't touch it, that'll show the meat industry."
They are surplus to requirements. They will die young whatever because it's not cost effective to raise them, even selling them for dog food is more economical.
LONG LIVE VEAL!
>>674375337
they all beat up little children instead
>>674373503
Lentil farts are just awful.
>pic related.
>>674373503
They're idiots.
>>674373503
veganism is the future
better nutrition
better for the environment
morally sound
<vegan
veganfag 4 years. best decision of my life, everything has improved, skin, mood, energy levels, sex drive.. could keep on going.
also slashes my chances of getting cancer and my risk of dying from heart disease is nearly 0
If vegans force their animals into vegan diets, they should be fucking jailed.
Fuck them.
>>674373503
How do you know if someone's a vegan, nazi or christian? They'll fucking tell you!
>>674376787
I insist on all my pets being strict vegans.
Then again, they are tortoises...
>>674376603
eating bugs is the future.
>>674377049
Eating butts is his present.
>>674376799
how many meat eaters does it take to change a lightbulb? none. theyd rather stay in the dark
>>674374417
You're on 4chan, it's your job to complain about something that other people do that you don't.
I think it's damn ignorant not to like double cheeseburgers from mcdonalds
>>674374417
>vitamin b12
>deficiencys can lead to anemia
>vitamin D
>60% comea from sun rest from meats, you never go outside so you need that meat D
>eating 3 cans of legumes to get same protein as 1/3rd of a whole chicken breast
Gg tbh used to be vegetarian not vegan so atleast I could drink milk n shit but it was shit
>>674377952
Also fuck the raw vegans thats a whole nother tier of shit. My step sister is one and the gist of it is, the only eat raw fruits and vegetables because cooking them makes them poison or something. They tell everyone theyre raw vegans and show up normal vegans by not shutting up about how raw veganism is better.
>>674373503
Honestly, I think they're on to something. We'd have a lot fewer fatties if everyone was vegan. Not Oreo cookie vegan, but plant-eating vegan.
>>674377952
Meat eater here
Milk is vit D fortified in Canada. Sun rays are supposedly ineffective between nov - feb . You can just take supplements for b12 and Iron right?
>>674378843
Less cardiovascular related diseases, type 2 diabetes. Likely a better understanding of food literacy so less consumption of all these processed foods....
>>674373503
Pisses me off because I have coeliac disease which means gluten slowly kills me. I can't eat anything that has wheat in it or my body attacks itself and I get pain and depression and loads of other side effects.
Everywhere you go there is a vegetarian option. So anyone who CHOOSES to be vegetarian gets taken care of. People jump through fucking hoops to make sure they don't get offended.
Me? I get fuck all. I don't have a fucking choice but they don't give a fuck about sneaking gluten into your food, or they just don't have any gluten free option. It's not my choice, it's medically necessary so why the fuck don't I get the same variety and surety that a vegetarian CHOICE gets?
>>674376787
This is of course hilariously hypocritical because animals can be hurt and killed for your food, but the right of pets is sacred.
>>674373503
Don't give a shit as long as they don't talk about it or criticise meat eaters 24/7
>>674379440
every fucking restaurant has gf options. no fucking restaurant has vegan option (only vegetarian). they are not the same thing.
>>674378882
I fortunately live in a place where winter is 25C sunny, summer is 35C super sunny, so D isn't an issue for me personally which is lucky.
Iron is actually quite plentiful in green vegetables, you tend not to have any problems there.
But B12 is a bit annoying. You can get tablets/sprays, but the issue is that it can only be absorbed directly into the bloodstream so you have to let said tablet dissolve under your tongue/spray under your tongue in order to get the B12. Lack of B12 for 6-12 months or longer apparently leads to brain damage manifesting in memory loss, and apparently the damage is permanent, no amount of B12 will fix it, just stop it from getting worse.
>>674373503
They're delusional and arrogant.
>>674374745
>>674373503
im vegan.
i never bring it up. ever.
what always happens though is the people close to me mention it to others in their presence. i then receive a huge lecture from said person about how i will be deficient in nutrients, how animals are killed humanely, how meat was essential for our brain to develop, etc.
i just nod and smile.
i usually get emails from people that forward me things saying how dangerous veganism is.
i just ignore it.
the amount of shit i get on a regular basis is quite astounding, particularly when meat eaters consider themselves the ones who aren't pushing their views onto others
>>674379755
Agreed. In my assessment vegetarians cause more animal suffering than meat eaters because vegetarians tend to live largely off of cheese, eggs and milk anyway.
>>674379779
b12 shots work 100%. btw ANYONE can get a b12 deficiency, not just vegans
>>674379901
*mention it to others in my presence.
also inb4 hurr durr "you mentioned it now". I am referring to people that actually know me, not this anonymous board
>>674373503
Shouldn't have to think anything about them.
There's no reason for me to know someone is vegan. period.
If we're going for lunch together or something then fine i'll pick it up but wouldn't give a fuck.
But long haired faggots thinking it gives them some pussy points or something because they refuse to eat meat telling every fucking person they meet they are vegan need to fuck off a reassess themselves. I know someone who got a vegan tattoo, now he eats steak every day to build muscles because that's the latest trend for him.
>>674379901
>Because as long as you have meat in your diet, you can eat like shit and still be on a balanced diet, but if a vegan doesn't calculate their intakes to the microgram they'll die or have their brains melt.
>Because animals are petted and live in gorgeous green fields until they are stealthily, instantly killed, and the farmer "respects" the obje.. animal.
>Because 100% of kids raised vegan are retarded.
>Because every vegan crams veganism down everybody's throat and no meat eater ever tries to constantly, repeatedly discuss meat with/force meat onto a vegan once they find out.
>>674373503
/b/ hates everything faggot
only vegan i know is a guilt tripping asshole who keeps telling us to go vegan.
>>674380047
My favourite argument against veganism involves the idea that we should avoid supplements and only receive nutrients naturally through our diet.
The fun fact of which is that we get B12 from meat. Because the animals are given B12 supplements :D
>>674379755
Dominos, subway, every individual take away. They all have vegan options but no gluten free option you stupid cunt. Autocorrect changes vegan on my phone you fucking newfag.
Do you think I live with this disease and don't know what I can and can't eat? I fucking know better than you because I have no fucking choice.
Stupid cunt trying to tell me what I HAVE to know to stay healthy. Take your entitled shit and fuck off to a restaurant that all take care of you whiny fucking cucks.
>>674380502
Soy milk is fortified with B12 and a host of other vitamins. Where's your argument now?
Here's a question. Why do vegan/vegetarians eat meat flavoured foods? Isn't that stupid-hypocrite?
>>674381213
Meat is flavoured with plants... Spices, onions, etc.
>>674379779
But Why take b12 the sublingual route? Wouldn't it be absorbed in the small intestine?
>>674376696
there is never a 0% chance of obtaining cancer. but how does veganism reduce the risk? i very much would like to know
>>674381213
>implying they cut out the meat from their diets is only because of flavor.
You can be a vegan and still like the taste of meat, it's just that meat itself isn't consumed because of the ethical aspect behind it - or for digestive reasons.
>>674380729
>gluten free
>Do you think I live with this disease and don't know what I can and can't eat?
Disease... LOL. It's another bullshit medical excuse for attention whores who haven't outgrown the 'I dont like this mommy!' phase.
>>674380729
you sound undercarbed mate. have a bowl of pasta
>>674381564
Did you have a rough childhood? Here-here, I can teach you a thing or two about how other people have problems they find hard to deal with while you just mock them down with your self-centered heavily distorted vision : )
I'm Veggie. I always want to be Vega but no given up milk- at least 2-3 pints a day. I didn't stop eating meat because I'm a white privileged cunt with cornrows. I stopped because it made me feel shit, especially during working out... I would sweat more and get hotter much much quicker. I only really payed attention to this when my was beginning to be unable to swallow meat (inb4 fag) without feeling sick.... Fucked up right! Anyway my body was rejecting it and so I just eat fruit, veg, nuts and seeds oh and lots of milk. But I feel excellent and I actually gained muscle weight faster.
>>674381396
Intrinsic factor deficit
>>674373503
kill yourself faggot
>>674381800
kill yourself faggot
>>674381213
I buy meat-textured foods because I grew up with meat and I can't cook for shit. Yves sausage dogs and ground "veef..." I didn't have to change my eating habits to reap the benefits of veganism.
Am one. Like myself. Idgaf what other people eat
>>674381564
Lol try living with celiac disease and eat like normal people.
>>674381451
It does for certain cancers as you don't ingest as many carcinogens so you might avoid stomach or rectal cancer or but develop another cancer from something else... Genetics, environment and so forth.. Sure there's correlation but not direct causation.
Nutritionfag here.
Veganism has some great ideas and does help people out by keeping them from eating certain foods that are problematic to some people, but it is too restrictive and unnatural to be something that I would ever recommend.
The main benefits that come from veganism are
Avoiding processed foods
Eating whole foods
Eatings lots of fruits and veggies
Avoiding dairy
Eating lots of carbs (great for energy levels)
The downsides to veganism are
Lack of easily available calcium from dairy (the only reason humans are taller than 5'2)
Lack of important nutrition from meats/organs/eggs (like vitamin A from liver)
Not allowed to eat honey (the only healthy sweetener)
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At the end of the day, a person who knows all of the above and eats meat as well will be stronger and healthier in the long run. Eating egg yolks, liver, medium rare steaks, etc.
Also when it comes to dairy, avoiding it is good as most of the dairy that is sold today is what is known as A1 dairy which is not meant for human consumption. If you can get your hands on A2 dairy then you will notice a difference as it is the type of dairy we evolved eating.
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I've been studying nutrition by myself for about a decade and I have tried every diet that exists so I know what I am talking about.
>>674382406
But youre no dietitan like me
>>674381451
i said almost 0% chance of getting heart disease. a whole food vegan diet is the ONLY diet clinically proven to reverse heart disease. check out Preventing and Reverse Heart Disease by Caldwell Esselstyn.
As for cancer, the most comprehensive study between nutrition and cancer ever conducted found people who ate a low protein diet had the least amount of cancer.
http://www.amazon.com/China-Study-Comprehensive-Nutrition-Implications/dp/1932100660/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1458215835&sr=8-1&keywords=the+china+study
google the china study pdf for a free copy
>>674382561
China study is biased as fuck
Get new research, theres way better than that one
>>674373503
gtfo
>>674381888
Ahh ok, so for those they get injections or sublingual pills, thanks !
They are good, they waste a lot less water. Also, more meat for me.
>>674373503
vegetarian here who doesn't eat eggs.
I've been a vegetarian for 24 years now (I'm 27) and I don't care what others eat and I won't comment on it.
but in my personal experience it's some meat eaters that try to bully vegetarians/vegans. I've had people hide sliced sausages in my cheese filled buns or in my lunch in general. I've seen them seeing me as weak for not eating meat. They've thrown meat in my face or have asked me non stop if I ate that kind of meat or that kind of meat or fish or what I eat at all if I don't eat meat etc etc.
I say they -tried- to bully me because I never gave into to harassment and took it with humor. but if I hadn't been mentally strong it would've been a lot harder for me.
there's some vegan/vegetarian assholes out there who just want to preach their moral superiority. but I'm not one of those. I just think that animals should be treated better if you're gonna slaughter them anyway. don't make them suffer beforehand.
also
>bingo
>>674382495
>dietitan
>completely ignoring the content of my post in order to attack me
>being this bad at arguments in the current year
>>674383078
>has a bingo board about omnivorous people
>isnt preachy
Ok.
they get a bad wrap because the outspoken ones act holier than thou.
in actuality i think most are cool people, who just happen to have read a lot more on nutrition or have moral code that they feel is being breeched by a meat diet.
Generally doing it for environmental reasons (global warming is caused first and foremost by animal agriculture).
Or animal cruelty
Or health reasons (studies suggest its the healthiest and best for longevity)
And most people on a diet containing meat unless they're body builders have the excuse that "meat tastes good" as their reasoning for eating it. As opposed to evidence gathered after reading studies on countless nutrition papers which suggest meat is way over consumed in general, and looking at morally what it does to the environment, who they're supporting in terms of a corrupt meat industry which shits on all its workers and treats its animals even worse. Then pumps bullshit out there via advertising, and threatens those who try to speak out against it.
I mean i don't see whats the problem unless they're cramming it down others throats.
>>674383200
I don't preach that people should stop eating meat. I criticize the harassment and the same questions I get asked over and over and over again. that's what the bingo is for. also it's supposed to be funny and this is an image board.
>>674383101
Keep spreading your pseudoscience like important nutrition from egg yolks liver and shit. No need for cholesterol intake and we do know for a fact that the more you eat it the worse it is for your serum levels.
Also meat and diary > higher igf1 from leucine/ high protein - higher mtor activity - shorter lives, higher risk of cancer
>>674383646
here's >>674383078
you can't generalize. I haven't eaten meat or eggs for most of my life and I've been to a doctor for a health screening last year. all my stats are good. it really depends on everybody's body and how it handles the diet.
>>674383646
>Dude I can't argue against you. Your arguments are just so rock solid and tight and well backed. Wew.
