>Implying there's any better candidate this cycle
>Implying Shillary would be a better nominee
>Implying repubs (except Kasich) aren't a joke
>Implying Sanders' overcoming an enormous early disadvantage isn't a clear marker of his ability to steal this election
>Implying it's good for the economy that almost all new wealth goes to the top 0.1%
>Implying it's good for the economy that the Walton family owns more wealth than the bottom 40% of Americans combined
>Implying it's a good thing for workers working 40+ hours per week to be in poverty and get taxpayer subsidies in the form of foodstamps
>Implying corporate wellfare benefits the American middle class
>Implying Wall Street doesn't need tougher regulation
>Implying Sanders isn't the most honest candidate in this election
>Implying Sanders' commitment to getting money out of politics isn't genuine and inspiring
>Implying you're a cuck because you agree with the above
>Implying Sanders' foreign policy isn't common-sense
>Implying Sanders hasn't been one of the strongest fighters for the middle class
>Implying Sanders' grassroots support hasn't obliterated numerous historical records
>Implying being right makes you wrong
>Repeating the meme that Sanders is bad or unviable
>Being such a fucking moron you're not voting for this generations' best candidate
Check your memes and fallacies at the door. Ignore trolls, bring some facts to the discussion. There's no better candidate to vote for. Prove me wrong.
>>673888430
Feel the bern
Fuck that trump nigga bitch
>>673888430
You are not white.
There.
>>673888642
Why are people on 4chan against Bernie? Could it be they're just stupider than I gave them credit for? Or is this just a troll/meme?
pussyboi trump got Berned!
That's not Vermin Supreme
>>673888978
Bernie/Vermin 2016
>implying any candidate belonging to a political party backed by rich investors and interest groups is other than shit
>>673888978
Hes Teds VP
>>673889154
That would imply I like Bernie. He would try to evenly distribute my free ponies and I'm not having that shit.
>>673888430
Let's be real here, OP. Bernie IS the best candidate ATM. Do I agree with his views on whites and his SJW policies? No, but he is still the best choice.
But we have to keep some things in mind.
Right now Bernie is miles behind Hillary in the primaries and is going to lose. He won't catch up at this point and there's nothing except Hillary's death that will change that.
But let's say he did somehow become president. That still won't change the fact that so many of the people in DC will fight tooth and nail against everything he tries to do.
Legal weed? That's gonna take some time
Free college? Doubt that'll happen in the next 4 years
Better healthcare? Of course not.
Look at what happened with Obama and gays. He has been president for 8 years, yet it took 7 of them just to make it legal for 2 dudes to kiss. Now can you imagine how difficult it's gonna be to make the stuff above happen when A) the vast majority of Americans have a decent to shit morality, and B) when there is so much money and politics involved? It would probably till the end of Bernie's presidency before legal weed even had a chance to become legal, let alone free college.
American are fucking stupid. I'm not trying to be edgy and shit, but it's pretty well established at this point that the average American doesn't know dick outside of their line of work.
All it takes is some flashy ads, broad, general statements, and some claims of "Fuck that guy" and Americans will swarm all over whoever/whatever it is.
Just be happy with what you have now. It's not gonna get better any time soon.
>>673888430
He probably is the best candidate out of the 3. But it has been proven again and again that his plans are unrealistic. Even if we do what he is proposing (and the wealthy don't just leave the country) there still wouldn't be enough money to complete his plan. From there, he would just keep increasing the tax rates for the rich (because fuck them right, its not like they earned their fucking money and property with hard work, sweat, and tears). And there you have it, the redistribution of wealth is complete and we still cannot pay for his plan, the only thing we have left is a socialist country that only seeks to controle its people, and all we can do is watch as it dies and gets forgotten in the ashes of history.
>>673888789
I like Bernie. Trump is just a joke taken too far
>>673889425
I agree with much of this. However, Bernie is not miles behind Hillary. If you look at delegate count, you'll be very mislead because Bernie has 50% of the total Delegates of Hillary.
HOWEVER!!! If you disregard SUPERDELEGATES (who will likely switch to the Bernie camp as he picks up momentum) The race is neck-and-neck with Hillary just barely ahead. The first super tuesday was way in her favor. Bernie projects he'll overtake her closer to June.
As president, he'll have to rely on executive action and on grassroots support for more progressive candidates in house and senate (easier than presidential primaries).
>>673889220
I want to believe
>>673889516
>[Citation Needed]
>All of these generalizations
>No proof
>Numerous other countries haven't successfully implemented free college and a single payer health care system.
>Sanders has spent the last two years pandering to the one demographic that doesn't fucking vote
>mfw fuckwits still think he has even the slightest chance
The 2016 election is between Goldman Sachs and Trump, the walking, talking meme.
Pick your poison.
>>673888430
>>Most honest candidate for election
You gotta be kidding me, anon.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/13/opinion/campaign-stops/all-politicians-lie-some-lie-more-than-others.html?_r=0
>inb4 hurr durr, NYT supports Hillary. Unless you prove to me there's a breakdown in editorial separation in one of the most reputable news sources in the country, you can kill yourself
>>673889250
Also i doubt bernie would make brushing your teeth mandatory
>>673889905
How is restating your career-long beliefs "pandering"?
You're right that this (my) demographic doesn't vote. This election will be different or we'll have ourselves to blame.
>>673889846
You can't take other countries as an example. They all have significantly smaller populations. Any nitwit with half a brain would see that his plan is not economically sound. He's riding off of the millenial vote since we live in the age of people wanting things for little to no work.
>>673888430
I've got 6 ballots in California waiting for his name on them... Parents were just gonna trash them before I slapped my momma!!
>>673888841
>honest politician
All my keks
>>673890024
He meant that your demographic CANT vote because they're underage friendo.
>>673889728
What do you mean by executive action?
>>673888789
>stupider
Nice bait anon, learn proper grammar.
>>673890150
How would you say otherwise? He has a pretty good track record
>>673890081
> i'm lazy and don't want to work
fuck you
>>673890081
>You can't take other countries as an example.
Would you say that if examples supported your point?
>significantly smaller populations [somehow invalidate a progressive agenda]
Conservatives keep repeating this but I've never seen any credible evidence supporting it
>Any nitwit with half a brain would see that his plan is not economically sound. He's riding off of the millenial vote since we live in the age of people wanting things for little to no work.
This doesn't need a response because it demonstrates you're not interested in discussing facts.
>>673890324
He is just saying words. He doesnt know
>>673890024
>how is it pandering?
Only teenage morons who flunked economics in Highschool fall for his "FREE THIS, FREE THAT, THE EVIL RICH PEEPOLE WILL PAY FOR IT" spiel, and they're pretty much the only people he's aiming for.
Also,
>my demographic
Uhhh, mods, underageb&.
>>673890440
Still did not say how its pandering. Its not just for highschool kids. Anyone can go to college.
Have any more examples?
>>673890414
You've provided no evidence to back up your claims. You're the one saying that it is economially feasible, prove it. I would not take evidence that supports my claims if I knew it to be a "half-truth".
>>673890440
I'll just keep repeating idiotic memes, that'll show that I understand the nuance of the issue!
>>my demographic
>Uhhh, mods, underageb&.
I'm 21 you cock camel. My demographic - young voters - is what we're discussing. Dipshit.
>>673889425
this is the same shit i said..
he has all of these wonderful, fantastic ideas, but where does the money come from?
also, that free university would no doubt take his entire term and longer to accomplish.
immigration and trade is a huge issue and none of the dems give a shit at all.
Hillary will have the economy tanked and jobs destroyed.
>>673890571
The primary demographic of college students is fresh high school graduates, or those close to that age.
>>673890355
This post >>673889941
They all lie, its just how much they let themselves lie, and how high profile those lies are
Hello
>>673890727
So his demograph... Still not pandering. Pandering would be like trumps wall that Mexico is paying for even though trump hired illegals from Poland.
>>673890745
So trust the one that lies the most. Gotcha
>>673889846
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/sanders-health-plan-cost_us_56a8ff99e4b0f6b7d5447ee8
http://www.wsj.com/articles/democratic-economists-say-bernie-sanders-math-doesnt-add-up-1455726507
A quick google search could have revealed these to you.
>>673890414
In Europe, not all economies are doing well. Greece, Spain, Portugal are destabilized, Germany is carrying the debt, the Euro isn't working how they wanted it to.
As for populations, in Denmark they do not have near the number of poor we do in America. That means less money going into the system, more money coming out for us than for them
>>673890862
If you want a specific example you could take his belief in the wage gap, or the fact that he said white people do not know what it's like to be poor. If that isn't pandering to females and blacks I don't know what it.
Either that or he is genuinly stupid.
>>673890607
Well for one, every other single-payer health care system ON EARTH costs less than the US's clusterfuck
>Inb4 something-something wait times, something-something socialist dystopia
>>673890965
Ah sorry bud, but you posted huffpo, noone will believe you now and the discussion will turn to bias in media
>>673888430
Bernie is an atheist Jew, but I'm going to vote for him.
>>673890965
>>>unironically used huffington post as a source
>>673891018
The white people one is a quote from a black ladies point of view. Not sure what you are getting at with the wage gap
>>673890722
Nice dubs, though I disagree with immigration. Maybe it's because I live in the middle of Nebraska, but on a regular day to day basis I have more troublesome encounters with legal poo-in-loos than illegal Mexicans
>>673889516
So people still really think the mega wealthy did any hard work? Are you implying any Walton has done even an iota of hard work since Sam?
>>673891098
Isn't huffingtonpost a liberal clusterfuck ? If they're posting something anti-Bernie it probably has some grain of truth to it.
>>673890959
It would appear that the evidence I presented supports my claim. It is nice to know you are too lazy to open a new tab and find evidence of your own, faggot
>>673891277
Hey man thats just 4chan rules.
>post huffpo=getting laughed at
Sorry. I dont know what to tell ya
>>673888430
I definitely like Bernie the best out of the candidates we have. Power to you anon
>>673891156
I saw him say that white people do not know what it's like to be poor. It came from his mouth, not from a black persons point of view.
Also, the wage gap isn't real, that's the point I'm trying to make
>>673891260
So your telling me, i shouldnt try to give my kids a good life?
>>673888430
Sanders wont win, it'll be Hillary Vs Trump
>>673891292
How are you supposed to argue all politicians lie? If you really wanted to prove it, go fine him lying. Not an article saying all politicians lie
>>673891260
Just because they didn't do a ton of work, or you do not believe they have done a ton of work, doesn't mean you're suddenly entitled to their money.
>>673889728
Both of you idiots really think they will beat trump?? Hahah
Hahaha cuck
>>673891430
The wage gap is real or there wouldn't be a comparison of vps to common workers. He said something about blacks getting pulled out of a car, then that He has similar view points to hillary. Afterwards continues his quote.
>>673891544
Lets not vote for Shillary and say we did? Or lets not say we did either
>>673891430
I agree it was a poor choice of words but you're being unfair to the spirit of the words. I'm poor and white - Bernie grew up poor and white - but most white people don't understand what it's like, that's true. And they can't fully understand what it's like to be racially persecuted, either.
>>673891728
The wage gap is real, but it's miniscule at best. The studies conducted did not account for position, time worked, qualifications or even place of work. If women were paid less, couldn't an employer just hire women and pay them less?
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/31/opinion/sunday/hillary-clinton-endorsement.html
http://chicago.suntimes.com/opinion/sun-times-endorsement-hillary-clinton-consummate-public-servant/
http://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/editorials/2016/01/24/new-hampshire-should-hillary-clinton/4wMHbvMFAB5onZZnBC5FqL/story.html
http://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/editorials/article63917727.html
>>673891879
Isn't the highest population of homeless people white?
>>673891966
Correct but they are also other factors like maternatie leave so if the business was looking for cheaper labor, they could go all woman but it would be a hassle
>>673888430
FEEL THE TINGLE
>>673891585
But children in the wealthiest country on earth, in my opinion, are entitled to not grow up in poverty. This moral imperative is greater than the imperative that those who amass enormous wealth keep it in perpetuity.
Disregarding the role that corruption and dishonesty play in acquiring wealth.
Sanders is a fucking kike that will turn over complete control to Israel.
>>673891728
He didn't continue the quote, he started with the quote and then answered. He later had to go on CNN to correct his mistakes because he offended blacks (cause Ghetto) and whites (cause they don't know how to be poor).
He absolutely said it, he just didn't mean it the way it came out but trying to say he didn't say it, its ignorant.
OY VEY DONT FORGET ABOUT FREE STUFF, GOYS. BLACK LIVES MATTER AND FREE WEED LMAO
>>673892198
So once bernie comes into office, there will be no more poor people?
>>673892310
It was poorly worded yes but he only did that to cover his tracks. So if you take out grammar, then he would appear to but not if it was written down. Parenthesis on ( I would say ) and the whole situation changes
>>673891879
>argument about privilege
Why would knowing first-hand what its like to be poor have anything to do with knowing how to reduce poverty?
>>673892198
>But children in the wealthiest country on earth, in my opinion, are entitled to not grow up in poverty.
Reward niggers and third world illegals who can't afford children, but poop them out to get more welfare paid for by working people?
Sounds fair to me.
>>673892667
How many illegals are their anon?
>>673892325
free shit guys! free shit! free shit!
are you an anarchist?
>>673892514
But grammar doesn't fix it. I don't really care personally, I just dislike people trying to say he didn't say it. Poorly worded, the fact he "grew up" poor, all of this is strawman shit. He said it. Now he corrected the context and that's fine, Bernie supports need to point to the correction, not try to fix the statement as it was said.
>>673890150
relatively speaking he's pretty damn honest
http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/
http://www.politifact.com/personalities/bernie-s/
>>673892755
>How many illegals are their anon?
It's spelled "there" you fucking wetback.
>>673892755
In 2014, roughly speaking 11.3 million, about 3.5% of the population roughly.
>>673892104
Probably since the highest population of people is white
>>673892997
>he is full of shit
>but like good smelling shit
>>673893125
Well there you go, more white people know what's its like to be poor than black people.
>>673892997
>Using politifact
>Thinking it's objective and doesn't have a liberal bias
>Get educated
>>673888430
>Implying there's any better candidate this cycle
b8
>Implying Shillary would be a better nominee
true, she'd be worse
>Implying repubs (except Kasich) aren't a joke
b8 and stupid
>Implying Sanders' overcoming an enormous early disadvantage isn't a clear marker of his ability to steal this election
true
>Implying it's good for the economy that almost all new wealth goes to the top 0.1%
it doesn't and it isn't hurting the economy
>Implying it's good for the economy that the Walton family owns more wealth than the bottom 40% of Americans combined
the bottom 40% is niggers and rednecks and it's their fault for owning nothing
>Implying it's a good thing for workers working 40+ hours per week to be in poverty and get taxpayer subsidies in the form of foodstamps
wtf does that mean m8
>Implying corporate wellfare benefits the American middle class
it does, it employs people and creates an economy which allows you to have a laptop and shitpost
>Implying Wall Street doesn't need tougher regulation
if you want businesses that matter to leave feel free to give them regulations, just consider consequences
>Implying Sanders isn't the most honest candidate in this election
he probably is
>Implying Sanders' commitment to getting money out of politics isn't genuine and inspiring
it is genuine but it is also stupid
>Implying you're a cuck because you agree with the above
he is a cuck and he loves muslims and niggers
>Implying Sanders' foreign policy isn't common-sense
it's pussy and irrational, USA needs to be an asshole to survive
>Implying Sanders hasn't been one of the strongest fighters for the middle class
he has, true
>Implying Sanders' grassroots support hasn't obliterated numerous historical records
he fought for niggers to be able to rape his daughter
>Implying being right makes you wrong
typical liberal argument
>Repeating the meme that Sanders is bad or unviable
unviable
>Being such a fucking moron you're not voting for this generations' best candidate
RIP
>>673893097
But 14 million live in families with an illegal head of household, implying millions of anchor babies being paid for by what's left of the middleclass
>>673893252
Lemme guess, you think fox news is unbiased, right?
>>673893217
how did you infer that statement from that picture?
And relative numbers are what's important. There are many more times white people in this country than black, but blacks are still DISPROPORTIONATELY impoverished.
>>673892667
>>673893096
Fact: no socially competent or attractive person feels the need to troll like this loser.
>>673892371
There will be fewer.
>>673893340
If you can find out how many there are, but not get them deported, then you may have incorrect sources or it's a guess
>>673893500
Oh yeah the moment he is elected there will be fewer poor people, my god how does that happen?
>>673893611
>anyone said that
>>673893466
I think all news channels are biased and it is upto me to go out and find the real data and interpret it the way it's supposed to be interpreted and not let other people's bias affect my politics.
But you can keep on thinking that I'm some cookie cutter conservative caricature if it makes you feel better.
>>673893500
Even if the number is disproportionate it still doesn't change the fact that more white people know what it's like to be poor than black. Defending his statement makes you an idiot because you imply that only black people can be poor but if a white person had no money they're just down on their luck.
>>673888430
eurofag here. hillary is the best candidate, because she's the only one who's gonna keep protecting us against putin
>>673892997
>Politi""""FACT""""
>How can we interpret this statement to make it seem false?
Nice source
>>673888789
>Could it be they're just stupider than I gave them credit for?
>they're just stupid than I gave them credit for
>they're just stupider
>just stupider
>stupider
>fucking stupider
Kek.
>>673893753
ok, I will and I do.
>>673893715
I did. Above i said so ONCE bernie is elected there will be no more poor people? And homie said yes there will be fewer, i didnt know bernster had that kind of power
>>673888430
what I did in study hall, the thread.
NO JEWS IN THE WHITE HOUSE
>>673893896
thanks, glad you approve. they have a Pulitzer you know
>>673893753
I'm not him but the problem is you're throwing the baby out with the bathwater. Politifact is one of the least biased news outlets out there.
>>673894035
NO KIKES JUST WHITES
>>673893466
Fox Hates Trump too
>>673894045
Your point?
>>673894124
Feel the Bern, in the oven he goes
>>673893864
What is the point of your post besides to make a childish attempt at discrediting the points you're unable to respond to?
>>673891585
Ton of work?
How about any work at all? They've done nothing but inherit it. They've done nothing.
>>673894571
Actually, 80% of all US millionaires are first generation.
>>673894563
What am I disregarding? My post was originally about how he was pandering to the black community by saying that white people do not know what it's like to be poor. Saying that more blacks are poor compared to their population is irrelevant since white people are also poor and in higher numbers.
Tell me, what point are you trying to make.
>>673894082
Keep in mind, these are just a few examples of politifacts liberal bias. There are plenty more. I implore you to do your own research and stop using these garbage websites.
>>673894838
I am speaking of the Walton family specifically.
Sanders supports corporate welfare.
>>673894966
>Republicans making outlandish claims, correctly labelled false
>A few cherry picked examples in jpeg format prove anything
>You know more than respected columnists and editors
>Opposite ratings for both sides don't exist
Point me to a respected publication, not a jpeg, and your point will be more interesting.
>>673895766
they rated Cruz as false because they think boys who wish they are girls are girls.
That alone should give you an insight into how these people think.
>>673895900
>What are trans rights
>>673894136
no point, just glad you approve.
>>673895958
>what is mental illness
>>673896079
There are no mental illnesses that are completely unresponsive to any type of medication and therapy, trans stuff is though.
>>673895958
>children can determine their gender
>heaven forbid they join club penguin without parents permission
>>673894966
>>673895923
>This jpg sure proves my point
If you'd actually take the time to read those politifact articles, you'd see they explain how those statements are extraordinarily misleading. I've read a few of them. You can also see on the right hand column of >>673895923 they're REALLY reaching for a source and cherry picking "evidence."
Pure idiocy.
>>673895766
Even the wikipedia page for politifact has more examples where they fuck things up. They are just a tool for liberals to use against conservatives. They practice selection bias. They only rate comments for conservatives which they know are false but only cherry pick comments by liberals that they can verify to be true.
>>673892997
>>673894966
>http://www.politifact.com/personalities/bernie-s/
>"Tell me what Madeleine Albright’s position was on the War on Iraq. I wouldn’t be surprised if she supported it."
>Mostly False
That is not a statement of fact regarding whether or not anyone supported anything. That's obviously an admission that he doesn't know and a guess.
>"Almost all of the polls that have come out suggest that I am a much stronger candidate against the Republicans than is Hillary Clinton."
>False
Meanwhile:
>http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/
>"Almost every poll has shown that Sanders vs. Trump does a lot better than Clinton vs. Trump … and, that’s true nationally." -Bernie Sanders
>Mostly True, rather than completely true because it's "worth a grain of salt", which is obviously subjective.
The distinction in the earlier one being that he should have said "Republican front runner" rather than "republicans". That's "mostly false" at best.
Subjective judgments always find their way into these fact checking things, and they're always going to lean towards declaring falsehood because that's what people like to see. That doesn't mean they're doing it unfairly.
>>673895485
I went back and looked before I posted that and didn't see that, but if that was the case then you can ignore me.
The only thing I would say about that is often people see the results not the work that went into it. Now i am not saying that current situations are the same. But i'll use my self as an example.
I own a business, when I started the business I took out a large loan, dumped my savings (~75k) into it and started it. I worked 7 days a week, 16-17 hours a day. I was making so little money I ended up selling just about everything I owned, and lived in my business, having to literally spongebath myself as a "bath".
There were several times I was ready to call it quits, but things eventually turned around. Nearly 5 years later and I live a lifestyle that would be considered upper middle to lower "high" class. I barely need to check on my business at this point and literally do nothing to keep money coming in.
While I am fine with paying my taxes. I don't even care about paying more then I currently do. My problem is everybody thinking I didn't "earn" it. To those people I say fuck you.
I want you to take everything you fucking own and put it on the line. I want you to risk your entire fucking future for something you want. I want you to quit bitching about having to work 40 hours.
The reality, I could just as well be homeless in the gutter as well off because I was willing to risk it. If you don't want to risk it, that's fine don't. But people only see the end result of someones dream. They don't see the the struggle. Nobody brags about how their business is on the bring of failure or failed.
PS I am not saying you called me out or anything, I am making this as a "generalization" about people who are well off.
>>673896483
every media outlet makes mistakes and often has to print retractions or corrections.
What is your overall point here, that politifact is not a legitimate source of news in this country? Can you point me to any respectable publication that suggests this?
>>673896307
if you believe somebody born with a penis is a girl you are hopeless.
>>673896307
literally none of that is true.
>>673896483
>>673896902
Better yet, point us to a politically significant and false statement that you think politifact has overlooked.
>>673896902
Media outlets have an obligation to report the news but they can have their own biases and slants, thats expected because they are a form of entertainment.
A website whose sole purpose is to decide whether or not a political figure is telling the truth of not should not be allowed to have biases and should not play favoritism. Facts are facts and should not have an angle.
>>673896902
polifact make no sense. There's no objective method behind either the statements they select to rate or how they make their ratings and many of them are simply wrong.
>>673894133
hardly. theres a huge difference in how they're treating him vs how they treated someone like ron paul
>>673897447
You should write a letter to the editor when they get it wrong, then. I think their methodology is fairly reasonable.
>>673897673
they have no methodology. It's completely ad hoc.
>>673888642
wtf is he doing?
>>673888430
How are you going to distinguish between the trolls and the actual supporters of Trump when they are equally retarded?
>>673897777
Quads reveal truth
>>673888430
Implying you have the conviction to just write what you mean instead of passing responsibility to others in your own mind by greentext implications...
Typical Sanders supporters - no balls, all cuck.
>>673888677
I'm white and I think that Sanders would do a good job if they'd let him.
>>673897251
>>673894966
Look at the comment about Carly Fiorina saying that the majority of the migrants in Europe right now are young able bodied men. Politifact said she was pants on fire wrong and said that the majority are female. In what world are the majority of the migrants female? Every major news source reports it as 70-80% males. Politifact is pure bullshit.
>>673898174
fuck off you live in connecticut. Connecticut is the worst place in the world. In Connecticut, people don't live, they are enslaved by the treachery that pervades that shitstain on the Union. Not only does Connecticut promote anarchy and has no legal system, but it actually promotes acts such as murder and armed robbery. Connecticut claims to be part of New England, however it is simply New York's phallic extension. Real New England states, such as Rhode Island, are forced to be bordered with this lawless wasteland, and Massachusetts made the ultimate sacrifice by having the longest border of any state with Connecticut in order to protect Vermont and New Hampshire from Connecticut's horrible influence on the region and the entire world. People from Connecticut are known for their violent nature, often using insults and improper grammar in order to make a point. People from Connecticut include: Adolf Hitler, Josef Stalin, Pol Pot
If Hillary then Trump. Because Dems are going to Hillary, they will learn to respect glorious leader Trump.
>>673888430
TRUMP 2016! FUCK SAND NIGGERS! FUCK WETBACKS! AMERICA IS FOR WHITES! BRING BACK JIM CROW!
>>673898174
>Typical Trump supporters - no balls, all cuck.
fixed...oh wait, this one does have balls
my bad
>>673898174
Bernie doesn't want free stuff. He wants the taxes that we already pay to go to useful things rather than corporate tax breaks and bailing out wall street repeatedly.
he wants the money to be reallocated to programs that benefit the entirety of the country, not just the richest of the rich.
That you don't understand that, goes to prove that the founding fathers are right and average citizens are too fucking stupid to vote on important matters.
>>673898498
I find it an injustice that in 2016 you still think you're owed free shit.
>>673898498
who is she
>>673898584
>implying Trump isn't a socialist
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcUCLwWCihE
>>673889941
>Hillary Clinton not 100% false
She is literally a Republican and voted for the opposite of what she claims to want in the past. Her entire campaign is a lie
>>673898611
Sanders is supporter of corporate welfare.
>>673898903
>literally
kek
>>673898611
this is extremely moronic
>>673898611
>not realizing bernies plans will still benefit the rich
>subsidized higher education
All us jabronis will have the sub par education from publice universities, while the rich will be able to afford better private schools.
>healthcare
All of us jabronis will have to deal with sub par healthcare, while the rich will be able to grease palms for better care.
Oh look it's a politifact "fact-checking" an conservative opinion as false.
How cute.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/jan/28/ted-cruz/ted-cruz-says-barack-obama-has-dramatically-degrad/
>>673898611
> He wants the taxes that we already pay to go to useful things rather than corporate tax breaks and bailing out wall street repeatedly.
They do. You think all taxes go to that? That is what you're implying.
>he wants the money to be reallocated to programs that benefit the entirety of the country, not just the richest of the rich.
A lot of spending is on programs for the poor.
>That you don't understand that, goes to prove that the founding fathers are right and average citizens are too fucking stupid to vote on important matters.
We used to have voter comprehension laws. Apparently it was "anti negro" cause those racist whites didn't teach them to read, therefore they couldn't read the test. If you want to thank anyone for the disconnect between the common man and the founding fathers, you can look in the mirror and thank yourself you bleeding heart half-wit.
>>673898683
I find it an injustice that in 2016 you're as stupid as your post.
>>673899020
Maybe you could explain why utilizing facts instead of rhetoric and fallacies
>>673898174
Military budget alone eats up a shitload of money every year. Then there are the benefits for Wall Street und military complex firms. You could make room for free energy by fighting corruption.
>>673897207
It's absolutely true that there is no cure for a fucked up gender identity. In case it's what you're thinking, forcing someone to pretend they're not sick is not a cure. You could also make the point that something is only really an "illness" if the victim suffers for having it, but in the case of gender identities and sexual orientations, resultant suffering is due only to the behavior of other people.
I don't agree at all that gender identity and biological gender are the same thing or that there's any reason to pretend that they are, and all of this "non-binary" nonsense is obviously just that, where gender is concerned (although sexuality, which is a separate thing, really is non-binary). Calling them girls is just PC silliness, and they shouldn't be able to use women's bathrooms. On the flip side though, almost everything that conservatives have to say on the issue is based on religion, pseudo-science, and (as is not uncommon for them) quite a bit of just assuming that things are true because they fit their worldview.
The other thing about therapies and stuff sounds pretty fishy to me.
>>673898611
>Doesn't want free stuff
>Taxes to go to useful things
>Things that I benefit from
>That others pay for
>Free shit
Christ man...
>>673888430
Well even though sandsers is great. It might be better if trump wins. During his first term, he whould do tons of bullshit not even republicunts whouldt stant behind. He whould screw up forein poletics etc. and historyx whould remember him as worse than Nixen. And after that we could have bernie, since lots of bernie supporters are not in the votingg age yet, waiting a term whould only benefit him. Also after every idiotink scumbag there usually was a counterreaction so aftterr a failed trump re-election , a bernie sanders whould become a more likely scenario. If sanders would be elected this year he couldnt change as much (due to the republican-minority in the senate and congress). And he could only govern for one term most likely. Even though I hate trump he might be the neccesary evil america has to overcome in order to reach greateness.
>>673899154
that's because it is mostly false.
Teddy, like most republitards just makes shit up as he goes
>>673898611
How would he accomplish something like that? He is manipulating you into thinking that America has unlimited funds for everything.
>He wants to pay for everyone's healthcare
Do you know how much money that would cost to fund the healthcare of 350 million, obese ass Americans? To give you a scale of all of this, if you give $1 to every american, you just spent $330 million dollars. Considering only 50% of americans pay taxes, that won't happen anytime soon. Not to mention it would send ripples throughout the economy due to insurance companies going basically bankrupt overnight.
>Bernies immigration plan
He wants to naturalize every mexican who can make it onto US soil. Do you have any idea how much that would cost in giving out food stamps and benefits along with their children schooling?
Bernie is a lying cuck who wants to spend more money than the US has. He isn't good with money at all. He made six figures for 20+ years and is somehow worth $600,000. No wonder the cuck doesn't know how to manage money.
>>673899219
your statement is a non sequitur
He wants various things to be provided for free (paid for by taxes)
This is simply a fact. These are his policies. The fact that he wants to end certain other give-aways to groups he doesn't like does not change the fact that he wants more give-aways to groups he does like.
>>673899185
>I want them to get money for something they already paid for
>Dude, free shit
>Dude
Fucking hell, I mean take an economics class or something, you're really making yourself look as ridiculous as Sanders.
Even the most basic of people interviewed raise the question "how's he going to pay for all these empty promises"
>>673899661
>Bernie is a lying cuck who wants to spend more money than the US has. He isn't good with money at all. He made six figures for 20+ years and is somehow worth $600,000. No wonder the cuck doesn't know how to manage money.
This is literally true.
>>673888430
>Implying any of your implies hold any substance
>>673899383
>implying our tax dollars are better spent saving muslims from other muslims halfway across the world
>>673897846
Being jewish
>>673899634
Mmm, not really. I knew plenty of retail people that were forced into part time because their company didnt want to offer insurance
>>673888430
>Implying we should trust handing huge sums of our paychecks to a jew
I'll I know is Trump fans are so scared of Bernie, they don't even bother trash talking Hillary. But it's also because 90% of his supporters on here are Hillary shills.
>>673899705
see
>>673899868
>derp
would you prefer we spend our tax dollars on muslims in muslimland?
fucking idiot
>>673900130
America has not anything resembling pure capitalism in 80 years.
I'm voting for bernie because I'm a retard
MARXISTS MUST HANG
>>673900289
that's a good thing
>>673889516
Niggrum, if you look at every other 1st world country it has only been proven that his proposals work.
>>673899313
>>673896079
I literally will vote for Trump just to make the PC crowd cry for at least four glorious years in the name of everyone who lost their job or ever had to report to sensitivity training.
Watching these faggots freak out on MSNBC about Trump while shamelessly plugging Sanders and Hillary is so beautiful, especially when they stare at the camera aghast that the 'impossible' is happening.
>>673900130
>borrow money from communists
lol
we just take their goods and give them iou's
thats literally how US-China commerce works
>>673900374
>I'm voting for Drumpf because I'm a retard
fixed
>>673900130
>Borrow money from communists
>Their economy collapses while our dollar remains the same
>They owe us
Just...
What's next, muh 6,000,000?
>>673898753
>she
I hope you wrap your car around a utility pole.
>>673900584
>there are no brakes on this train
...and it's headin' for a crash
>>673900130
No but the military and foreign aid are relatively small parts of the budget compared to all the domestic welfare and entitlement programs
>>673888430
>Implying you can't get a whole new board of nominees and you have to vote for one or the other
>>673900374
Am I the only one that finds it odd this jew wants to convince us to hand him our money? Kinda fits the glove eh?
>>673888430
>>673888642
>>673888841
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVhmC44vE0o
>>673889941
one only needs to browse politifactbias.com for a few minutes to understand why this graphic is the way it is.
>>673888430
>except Kasich
Stopped reading right there because AWWJEEZMAN is the biggest fucking joke still in the Republican race. He's bought and paid for by George Soros and his "experience" is basically being part of what caused the financial crisis. He is a bad person with a "good guy, respectful adult" veneer.
>>673900808
Nobody would trade with you fucks anymore
>>673898199
According to the only numbers I can find for Syria, about 50.5% are women and 49.7% are men. That's not surprising at all, since that's about the male to female ration of the species (there are slightly more women because they live slightly longer on average).
When you consider refugees from all of the middle east and northern africa, they're mostly men because when a families move into radically new situations there is a tendency for the men to go first, and it's much easier for single men to settle down in a new place than it is for single women. It's different for Syria because of the extent of the devastation there. People have no choice but to leave, and the entire population is leaving as fast as it can.
>>673900906
right into the whitehouse.
which will then be called: Trump Hotel and Casino
>>673900130
trying to justify wasteful spending by pointing out "Hey look at this other wasteful spending" is fundamentally illogical.
>>673900808
last time I checked China was doing just fine, moron
They're busy making Trump's clothing line
>>673901214
>thinks a candidate who plays footsie with the Klan can win the general.
hahahaha
>>673899661
> richest country in the world
> cant afford stuff other countries afford
republican logic
>>673901029
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y96iyHBhIe0
>>673901183
Not how politifact put "syrian" refugees into her comment when she just said refugees. And factoring in that the majority of the migrants that are crossing into Europe right now are young able bodied men, do you think it's okay to claim that she was pants on fire lying? Wake up, that site is a bullshit spin factory.
Meeting Bill Clinton in 30 minutes. Dubs decide what I say.
>>673900708
Yup
>>673900808
Back to /pol/
less marx and Kenes , more friedman mises and hayek Please
>>673901299
>wasteful spending
If you think increasing the number of Americans with a college education and improving our healthcare system is wasteful spending you are what's wrong with this country.
>>673899868
Looks like Louis CK. Speaking of him, it's tough to find him funny knowing he's such a hypocritical hollywood faggot. Seriously Louis, give everyone who works for you 80% of your shit, cause you don't deserve it according to you.
That type of thinking is degenerate. The talented keep the reward, and obviously he does too. It's easy to tell someone else how to spend their money. Typical Sanders supporters man...like little children who want mommy to give them an allowance and feel the warm embrace of wishful thinking and bloated government....unreal...
>>673901694
keep drink the republitard/fox news kool-aid, monger
>>673901888
If you think we need more gender studies graduate students waiting tables you are what's wrong with this country.
>>673901967
>80%
lol no
at least get it right
>>673901384
what excuse will you be making once he wins?
>>673901888
>improving
How exactly would having the government run our hospitals improve them? Because they do such a great job with the VA and our schools?
>>673901887
Friedman is for corruption....
>>673901304
Since when? The last time their 'stock market' completely collapsed and had to be shut down for a week straight?
Get informed. A business man using legal business practices is nothing new btw. You're like literally any given media outlet - think you have a "gotcha" moment and you find yourself obliterated by Trump support.
>>673901589
I didn't notice the first time I read it that "Syrian" was in parentheses. Giving them the benefit of the doubt, I would assume that the context of the statement made her meaning clear. If it was not said about Syria, then the statement is true. Interestingly, politifact has an article that seems to say as much:
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/01/europe-refugees-migrant-crisis-men-213500
>>673902281
lol
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html#polls
>>673902281
he never will.
he's too much of a cuck
>>673902287
>>673902287
just follow the methods of the rest of the civilized world that already has single payer healthcare
>>673900906
>Sanders supporters
>Literally more violent than Trump supporters
>Complete chimp out
>BUT TRUMP SUPPORTERS ARE NAZIS
Christ you people have issues...
How do you guys think he is going to do something? Do you people really think socialism is a good thing? God, you cucks are autistic.
I want to see from where the sanders will take money to pay what it promises , since he intends to break the national industry
>>673888789
Literally just /pol/ fags that raid these threads because trump is about to get cucked by Bernie if he beats Hillary
>>673902299
>obliterated by Trump support
top kek
>>673902079
>Implying I watch fox or am Republican
Nice try tho. I'm a non voting citizen that doesn't want to be taxed to death so the crack head down the street can live for free. Also I don't support any of the bullshit the republiscams stand for either. I stand for freedom and liberty. Something this god damn country has forgotten about. All growing up we are told about liberty and freedom and yet here we stand trying to smear our shit ideas all over eachother.
>>673888841
Fuck you for making me look.
>>673888789
he is a meme
>>673891171
why are there so many poomen in Nebraska? How did it become a mecca for Indian immigrants
I went there a month ago and every gas station had an all you can eat indian buffet wtf?
>>673902484
>>673902502
you can post opinions and projections all you want, but he shatters those projections daily. He has more people coming out to vote for him and they're only getting stronger every day. The more things like chicago happen, the more he becomes popular.
i'm not even a trump supporter, or a voter for that matter. but it's so obvious he's gaining momentum and everything that the democrats do that is supposed to hurt him ends up helping his cause
>>673902689
see
>>673896032
You seriously can't be that stupid can you? How many protesters have been roughed up at Bernie's rallies? 0. That's how many.
Do you even watch the news? at all? ever? Fuck your stupidity is so great I'm out of here. I just can't read anymore Trump supporter brainfarts
May as the smallest state Citizen , Look to venezuela . And you have to be stupid to believe that Europe is socialist
>>673903283
>>673902704
McCarthy
>>673902244
>Make $10min
>Only another $1mil from ur pocket bruh
>Oh and double the min wage
>That's cool, I'll just replace my least skilled min wage workers with automation. Fuck you and your tax hike.
That is literally what will happen. Any of you who work repetitive, easily automated jobs won't even have that income to pay taxes on. Since most of you are inept in the first place (which is why you think more government and free shit is a good idea), this would directly affect you.
>Durr but muh middle class
Yes, lets make everyone middle class and push the top 1/10 of 1% into an even smaller group, creating an economic and political elite. That worked out great in Russia in the 30's, pre WWII.
>>673903459
The protestors and sanders rallies are allowed to walk up and take the mic.
>>673902689
unfair as fuck, those are BLM a hate group
tim webb should be his vp
>>673903459
>Be Sanders supporter
>Illegally block and attack Trump supporters going to Trump rally
>Blame it on Trump rally
So if you assault someone you blame it on them for pissing you off?
This is the kind of lack of responsibility that is required to be a Sanders supporter. You have the foresight of an infant, and the mentality of a spoiled child.
Are you too young to remember 2008 Obama? He was equally promising to Bernie, and failed miserably to deliver any actual changes. The reason is simply because the state is deeply rooted and well supported to back off by any man like Bernie, Obama, or even Trump. They will cuck or gtfo. Don't expect changes through voting.
>>673903474
>spaces before commas and periods
I don't know what kind of foreign bullshit that is, but you obviously don't have a stake in this.
Also, Democratic Socialism is a very common political ideology in Eruope. Look it up.
(Socialism) Born of a commitment to remedy the economic and moral defects of capitalism, it has far surpassed capitalism in both economic malfunction and moral cruelty.
>>673903867
>Sanders supporters
>BLM
>Hate group
Bernie Sanders supports anti - white hate groups.
>>673903709
this has been said so many times through history, remember when we laid off every single switchboard operator and banks went to electronic systems instead of messengers. It's just an unrealistic expectation that minimum wage doesn't need to rise with inflation.
It's also been shown countless times that new technology doesn't lose jobs. It changes them.
Besides all that it is a very long way off that automation will replace service industry jobs at a cost that will make it anything more than a marketing gimmick
>>673904109
Trump voter here, I just want to see the pendulum swing just as ridiculously far to the other direction. It's been left for waaaay too long.
>>673888430
15/hour min wage will kill small and medium business in america as we know it. enjoy the highest unemployment and job outsource rate ever if this happens.
People who think trickle down economics dont exist also believe in bernie sanders money trees and the tooth fairy.
Maybe once poor people begin to realize that democrats need them to stay poor in order to secure re-election every 4 years they might wise up.
>>673904109
Obama is an extremely moderate Democrat, and Sanders is the most progressive politician to ever have a serious shot at a Democratic nomination for president.
>>673890081
>They all have significantly smaller populations
Fucking Shit. No. It's about population DENSITY. Not total population. That doesn't make the slightest sense. And with density, many countries are above the US.
>>673888642
>gotta_jew_fast.gif
>>673904109
/thread
>>673904056
>my name is herp and I like to derp
>>673904609
you were on the wrong left side.
>>673904786
>Obama is an extremely moderate Democrat
even worse, if he failed, Bernie is doomed
>>673888430
Bernie puts Obama to shame.
>>673904665
That's simply untrue, we now have economic data from the handful of American cities that have instituted a $15 or comparable wage. The results are undeniably and unilaterally positive. From spending money back to the economy, to tax fraud, to homelessness... There has been no hike in unemployment anywhere
>>673904109
Let's Kickstarter campaign for our own country. Far away from these two groups.
>>673904546
You reading books from the 1960's or something? What I described is already happening. Pic related. If you want to see massive layoffs in the class that Sanders is trying to reach out to (lower middle), then let him get a hold of our tax system.
The rich are taxed plenty. The top 1% pays 70% of taxes.
>Durr they deserve to cause they're rich, they own 90% of wealth
They don't make 90% of their wealth every fucking year. Some of you people get so caught up in Sanders stats that you fail to realize what he's actually saying cause he words it to pit classes against each other. You also forget (or never knew) how the economy scales up. Your own opportunity to be in the economic elite will be diminished, and the tax system he proposes brings us all closer to a very difficult glass ceiling to break through which forces you to stay lower, middle class through inflation of goods/services and unreasonable taxes over $250,000.
It will take years to undo the economic damage he's proposing to do to our free market system.
yes I'm totally in,
Btw look up the country of Sealand. It's a soverign state off the coast of England where you can buy property online and receive citizenship. I'm technically royalty there
>>673905104
>Be a nigger
>Never learn responsibility
>Assault someone
>In prison
>White mans fault
Typical sanders supporter.
>>673901888
Free college education, I sure as fuck don't want to pay for half the degrees my friends are taking
And the ones that are useless to society
Psychology, Painting, Sculpture, performance arts etc
Butttt .....I wouldn't mind paying for Medical degrees, Engineering degrees and Nursing degrees for example
>>673905176
No, Bernie will use executive orders to bypass congress.
Cause somehow that's not the definition of a fascist...cause he's Jewish, so how could he be...but what he wants to do makes college kids feels happy, so it must be good...
>Oy vei goyim
>>673904665
http://www.budget.senate.gov/democratic/public/index.cfm/2015/7/top-economists-are-backing-sen-bernie-sanders-on-establishing-a-15-an-hour-minimum-wage
>>673905334
Except only a handful of places have actually raised the wages, most are not raising them for several years and are ramping it up. Additionally people are using misleading data to see how awesome it is in places like Seattle by comparing statics when the entire US was in a downturn.
>>673905492
Not worthy. It will end up as every society ended. A few people in control and the rest as working slaves.
>>673899313
tl:dr Hurrr durrr I don't understand identity dysphora and my political beliefs disable me from doing so
>>673906151
Psychology is useless? Why?
>>673904056
>the mentality of a spoiled child.
Trump supporters are pussies just like Trump. They're only tough if they're in a mob picking on a single protester, preferably female.
>>673907027
In and of it's self no, however most Psych grads aren't working in Psych fields
>>673905176
His only failure was that he was too moderate. He got some healthcare reform through and got us out of Iraq. Overall his presidency has been far less catastrophic than Bush's. If we get four to eight more years of not having a total dumb ass for a president nothing else, then it'll be better than the alternative.
Even if he doesn't get his big stuff done, like campaign finance reform, healthcare, tuition, and so on, he's likely to get some of his secondary goals done, and they're all good. He might even get pot legalized at the federal level, which would make it completely legal in several states. More importantly, he wouldn't support this Apple vs FBI bullshit. Mass surveillance is one of the biggest problems we face, and he's one of the only politicians who cares about it.
>>673906151
>Butttt .....I wouldn't mind paying for Medical degrees, Engineering degrees and Nursing degrees for example
A lot of private organizations already do through donations
But somehow that tax break is evil...those evil corporate tax breaks...
Literally, some of these fucking bleeding heart college age liberals are using the very equipment given to their schools by private donors and corporations and yet protesting those same people who used our outstanding economic system to not only contribute to the education of our citizens but give themselves a nice monetary break themselves.
>Monetary incentive to give back to society
>Capitalism
>Somehow evil
Liberal democrats will see something wrong with this.
>>673906548
He can't. US won't turn into an authoritarian state through elections. Neither Trump nor Bernie will.
>>673907027
In and of it's self no, however most Psych grads aren't working in Psych fields
The most common job afterwords being "retail"
https://www.prospects.ac.uk/careers-advice/what-can-i-do-with-my-degree/psychology
>>673906897
Needs constant revolution. But anyway, the first few decades would be a golden age.
>>673888430
>implying that someone with no understanding of economics whatsoever would be a good president
Fuck you, OP.
I never thought I would live to see the US become a socialist and China open the market, just watching the US become a truly fascist parents with bernie here in Brazil
Most of the things Bernie supports are policies that have been implemented elsewhere in the world, and those places have higher overall levels of satisfaction and happiness, as well as better health and education. Unless you're just stupid rich, I don't know why you wouldn't vote for the guy. It just makes sense.
Kasich is the best candidate still in the race.
>>673907661
You think Trump does? really?
>>673907670
socialism is pretty much the opposite of fascism. If you want fascism, vote Trump.
>>673907564
What it needs is people breaking hierarchy and oppresion chains in their lives. Only way to live free and organise a fair and just society. In today's world? Not happening.
>>673906968
There is no empirical evidence to suggest that anything I said is wrong, you hypocrite.
>>673907077
It takes a lot more balls to differ with someone than to be politically correct and follow that cookie cutter agenda.
You're still passing the buck on responsibility of Sanders supporters for literally blocking a Trump rally.
# of rallies trump supporters blocked with violence: 0
# of rallies sanders supported blocked with violence: 1 so far
# of Sanders supporters trying to rush a candidate: 2 so far
>Scoreboard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uav3IqnFk8A
Skip to 2:30 - Sanders double speak, literally BTFO, says Trump is responsible for the violence, then passes the buck on responsibility for his own supporters.
>Durr if I had to be responsible for millions of supporters, I'd have a tough life
>Hurr but Trump is responsible for all the violence
Fucking crazy old man needs to retire.
socialism and fascism are Almost a SAME thing, only changes in the STILL fascism HAS A bit of private property , of course , with great control of the Government, the Majority of Americans NOT KNOW What And fascism , ate here in Brazil as people already have More knowledge
>>673907358
Literally says it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vn3JjuthS48
Confirmed Sanders is equal to Hitler.
>>673908040
breaking hierarchy and oppression chains is basically a revolution.
You're right though, there's no way a revolution is happening in our lifetime. Society is too brainwashed, too content with the easy and relaxing life that we have, too susceptible to consumerism and grinding through the life we're all told to live, to go to college, pay your student loan debts, buy a house, pay off your 30-year mortgage, get a nice new car, raise a family, no one considers the bigger picture, no one entertains the idea of major change because we're all lost in our own little insignificant self-centered world where as long as we're scraping by then everything else is secondary.
>>673907362
Okay that's the other side. That's because we live in a time where you hardly make money without an college degree. That has to stop. Too many idiots are students these days.
>>673888430
>Implying it's a good thing for workers working 40+ hours per week to be in poverty and get taxpayer subsidies in the form of foodstamps
taking the bait but whatever. Logically the goal of liberals/progressives would be to keep/raise foodstamps. Economically raising minimum wage puts more people in poverty that it raises out of it. adding welfare/foodstamp programs to existing people at low wages raises their standard of living without raising unemployment like a higher minimum wage it.
But i guess i wouldnt expect a Bernie supporter to understand highschool economics.
>>673908809
I honestly think that college isn't difficult enough.
>Source: 4 years of college.
>>673908684
>there's no way a revolution is happening in our lifetime.
not true, a society can fall apart in one day
>>673908856
You should...cuz..dude weed bro free shit.
You know when you had that one kid in your group that you got stuck with who didn't do fuck all but got an A anyway along with the rest?
Yeah, that's the Sanders supporter.
>>673906752
Except blindly doing this is absolutely retarded. The cost of living in the US is vastly different, setting a federal min. wage that is nearly double what it is will cause massive inflation in the states that are already the poorest. And if you think I am wrong, try to argue that $15/hr in San Francisco is the same as PoDunk, Mississippi.
If you support free college you are supporting welfare for the middle and upper class.
>>673908684
well said, although to add a positive note, people once couldn't imagine life without a king. And don't forget the poorer regions of the planet, they have much less to lose than us.
>>673909524
I would be fine if the idea behind free college was for STEM degrees only. But I refuse to vote for someone who wants to make us pay for some faggot to get an Art degree then pay for him because he is unemployeed. Then raise the min wage because he got a stupid fucking degree.
And for fuck sakes do we need retarded shit like "interior decorating" degrees. Fuck lazy shitbags.
>>673908617
private property?
Bernie is a democratic socialist, that doesn't mean he has anything against private ownership, it just means that more services should be available to everyone. It means every American should be able to go to college and get the education they want for little to no out-of-pocket cost to them (of course this cost comes from taxation), same goes for medical services, anyone that needs treatment should be entitled to full and complete medical care, similar to how things are in Canada or the UK, again services funded through taxation.
Currently America spends about 20% of their Federal Budget on Military spending which is absurd when you consider they have no legitimate business engaging in any of the military excursions over the last ~25 years and yet they're spending in the range of ~$600,000,000,000 annually on their military. Imagine what we could do if we cut that $600B down to something like $100-200B and reallocated the rest to medical/education. That's basically what Bernie is proposing and what democratic socialism means.
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Germany installed minimum wage. Every right-wing idiot screamed that it would raise unemployment (they hold it back for decades that way). And, what was? Nothing! No rising unemplyment rate. More falling.
