please tell me a legitimate reason why you aren't voting for the don
>going to bring down the debt
>bringing high paying jobs back to the US
>putting china and mexico back in their place
>simple, logical tax plan
>one of the best negotiators in the world
>isn't bought out by special interests
>wants to exterminate isis
>wants to bring the u.s back to the superpower state it once was
I dare you to argue that he won't be the best leader this country (or the world for that matter) has ever seen
>>673603081
I will vote for him but, i believe his tax plan is shit ( still better than Hernie tho).
Anyone who gets endorsements from Ann Coulter and Sarah Palin should be met with extreme scrutiny.
>>673603081
His words hurt my feelings, Bernie makes me all warm and fuzzy inside
>>673603081
I'm not 13 OR High-school dropout.
>>673603771
thats what people do when they lie to you as a kid. I want someone who is going to tell it like it is, not lie to make himself seem cooler.
>>673603081
Because he never says how he'll do it, and he has no plan for it
>>673604098
Oh, you don't need to explain to me, I'm not into the whole neohippie PC word police hug box bullshit man.
Because everything he says is proven bullshit.
>>673603081
>wants to bring the u.s back to the superpower state it once was
Cool. And I want to fuck Taylor Swift.
I need to call my psychologist every time I hear a gun shot because guns leave me emotionally scarred Bernie wants to get rid of guns.
>>673604588
>fucking a man lady
wew lad, gg
>>673604419
Go ahead then, prove it.
Don't worry, I know you can't.
Nearly everything he says is illegitimate and false at worst and hopeless pandering to make people think he knows what he's doing at best. I can "get" a person who doesn't know what they're doing, but I can't support a person who lies about knowing what they're doing.
>>673603081
What kind of retard thinks getting rid of the EPA is a good idea? It's saved more American lives in the last 40 years than the department of defense.
Do you think the answer to "beating" China and Mexico is adopting their environmental policy.
Don't be mad at the EPA because they couldnt stop you from eating all those paint chips when you where a kid, they didn't have the funding.
Also climate denial wtf is wrong with you.
How is building a wall on the southern border a priority for you people?
>massive tax cuts and in some policy's a flat tax
And Bernie supporters can't into economics?
I'm going to vote for Bernie because I want to see the scramble that it causes when he dies before his term is over
I'm not american but to me sanders seems like the best candidate.
I hope he get's elected
>>673604317
I thought Trump did that
>I'm going to create thousands of jobs
but how?
>That's not the point here
all I'm seeing in this thread are some butthurt bleeding heart liberals
>>673605504
At least I'm not a stubborn, close-minded conservative. How well did the last republican president do again?
>>673603081
>is going to bring down the debt
Fucking how? He just says that and give no explanation how he just say he is going to stop common core and dismantle the EPA(which is retarded) and then says he is going to close some loopholes he can't name. He is seriously just blowing smoke up Americas ass.
Better than Ted Cruzs plan to give everyone a flat tax, completly gut the government and put us all at the mercy of business, more so than we already are.
I voted for the Don in Texas primaries and I'm putting up signs I got for free at my local GOP headquarters for FREE
>>673603081
>bringing high paying jobs back into the US
how? What is his plan?
>>673603081
>believing the lies of a business man that's repeatedly been caught lying
>>673603081
I'm not racist.
I'm not retarded.
/b/ has taught me one thing, if anything at all, and that is don't respond to trolls and Trump is a troll
>>673603081
>all that greentext
how?
>>673603081
>putting China and Mexico back in their place
Hurrrrr, if you mean break or relationship with China and hurt our economy, and start a trade war then yeah.
>35% tariff
Full retard
Maybe he should stop manufacturing Donald j trump clothing in China and Mexico
>>673603081
faggot
>>673606134
faggot
>>673606379
>"I'm not retarded."
but you are, you retard
>>673603081
>Sells snake oil
>Says a lot of feel-good platitudes to trick dumb Americans into voting for him
>Likely all lies to get elected
>Has no grasp of foreign policy, or much of anything outside of business
A Trump presidency will either be completely ineffective when the rest of the government doesn't go along with his wild ideas, or will terminally injure America.
>>673606379
hello re ddit
>>673603081
gonna vote for him in the primary and probably the general election because I want to see him destroy the GOP. doesn't matter if he wins, he'll be impeached within a year. unless he's smart enough to do what bush did on 9/11
socialism can't melt steel
>>673603081
>bring back high paying Jobs
this is a meme, we already have a shortage of skilled tradesmen.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-economy-homebuilding-idUSBRE95I05F20130619
http://www.tradesmeninternational.com/news/the-construction-labor-shortage-where-did-all-the-skilled-labor-go/
http://www.forbes.com/sites/emsi/2013/03/07/americas-skilled-trades-dilemma-shortages-loom-as-most-in-demand-group-of-workers-ages/#334729934545
>>673607384
>unless he's smart enough to do what bush did on 9/11
hire someone like Karl Rove to clean up your shit for you?
>>673605270
I don't have to. A dozen independent fact checking organizations and universities report on this daily. If you weren't so busy chugging your mom's cock you'd be able to easily access all of this yourself.
Trump is a racist and a bigot.
>>673607030
Not even that. The massive trade deficit we have with China is an enormous part of the reason why we get to sale into (what they claim to be) their territorial waters, and the most they do is send us a strongly worded email. They know we can tank their economy in a heartbeat. We know we can tank their economy in a heartbeat. Donald Trump doesn't know we can tank their economy in a heartbeat, but wants to bumble down that road anyway.
>>673607659
since when was /b/ filled with tumblrinas and shitskins
>>673605291
we had plenty of good candiates this year, people are just stupid and like the person that says the simplistic things they want to hear.
they actually had a really good democrat nomie who was a war hero but no one gave him any attention.
>>673607777
Why does it bother you when someone points out Trump is a racist, then?
>>673607620
>A dozen
>Can't even provide one fact
>>673607841
>Webb
is a fucking dipshit
>>673607861
Cancer such as yourself bothers me
>>673603081
I'll vote for trump when Deck Wizard becomes a meme
>>673607777
>checked
>>673603081
Quick question, what is your definition of a superpower state?
The amount of nukes? (7100)
The military power? (Spending more on it than the next ten nations combined, nine of them are allies.)
The cultural influence? (Try to find me a country without a Starbucks, McDonalds etc.)
>>673603580
beta detected.
>>673607865
Politifact most of the time .-.
>>673603965
so you want the FREEEEEEE college.
>>673608018
Actually hypocrites like you are hilarious.
>>673608052
What the fuck is a deck wizard?
>>673608236
because it's so macho to latch onto ditzy cumpdumpsters
>>673607454
>this is a meme, we already have a shortage of skilled tradesmen.
False. We have a shortage of skilled tradesman willing to work for peanuts. Take tech jobs for example - companies bitch about not being able to find local talent and staff their IT departments with H1B workers. The reality? Tons of local IT workers could have easily filled those positions, but the job requirements are written in such a way as to exclude absolutely everyone (ie: Applicant needs at least 10 years of experience developing for Windows 10). Disney just fired a ton of IT people and had them train their H1B replacements, which they can only hire if local workers cannot be found.
>>673607776
Lol retard americans get everything backwards. China can ruin the US economy on a whim. The idea that the reverse is true is absolutely ridiculous.
Also, one of these days China is going to take or sink one of the ships you dumbasses 'sale' into their waters, and you bitches won't do shit. They are just waiting until their defences are securely in place and their navy is big enough to do it.
>>673608585
Go back home to mommy. It's past your bedtime.
Because he acted like a little cuck pussy and let some fat black nigger take the stage at one of his rallies and spout bullshit about black lives *which isn't true my man ;) * and then stood there with his head down like a little bitch.
>b-but he was giving the people a voice
No? What are you autistic? Yeah let rude thuggish black people get their way that'll turn out great
>>673608585
>China can ruin the US economy on a whim
Not even remotely close. I have no idea how this ridiculous myth started, but there's no way they can possible "ruin the US economy on a whim." Please feel free to explain how, and I'll tell you why you're wrong.
>>673608585
They're waiting... Hahahahahahahahahaha
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>673608808
>hurr durr bernie got cucked
it's cute how everyone got over this but you
>>673608494
are you retarded? there is a influx of programmers and developers, i am talking about carpenters, machinists and electricians. i made 12 an hour in highschool when i did construction, if your not a felon or a drug addict and can show up for work on time your pretty much hired every time.
I'm a Republican and I'm voting for Trump butt on the Democratic side I do not see why no one would vote for Bernie Sanders he is The Logical choice for a Democrat Hillary Clinton is a criminal and should be held for her emails.
>>673608952
ITT: People who don't understand what the word "cuck" means. Seriously, cuck is the new "shitlord" or "edgy" and people look like fucking faggots when they use it
>>673604899
>I need to call my psychologist every time I hear a gun shot because guns leave me emotionally scarred Bernie wants to get rid of guns.
Please... dont vote... no one is trying to take tour guns unless your a felon or potential terrorist fag. This is the one issue hillary brings up because bernie is kinda pro gun.
>>673609136
name even one law Clinton broke
and post a link from an unbiased source stating that she will be charged
>>673607896
why? whats wrong with him? hes a democrat and said that all peoples cultures should be respected including white southerners during that big confederate flag thing.
>>673608952
LOL are you the fucking faggot from the last thread that kept spamming my comment "lmao sure bud" because he got so pooper pained?? If not, who cares? It shows hell back down for anything as long as they throw a temper tantrum in the name of "equally haveing a voice"
>>673609201
ITT: faggots irritated that Sanders isn't the "fringe candidate" they thought he was
>>673609201
>cuck detected
Go clean your bull up
>>673609281
whatever response you expect from me, the point is academic. Webb polled poorly and thankfully dropped out of the race.
>>673603081
It's the pathological lies he tells.
Man, did you see that he told people to punch up protesters, promising to pay their legal fees... and then DOESN'T!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eM7bzehxOrM
And, let's just pull some shit at random:
He says vaccines cause autism.
He thinks Obama isn't a US citizen.
And he baselessly claimed the protesters at his rallies were "Bernie's people".
He really just doesn't have any regard for reality.
>>673608786
Typical 6 year old response from american retard.
>>673608862
Typical uneducated american retard who probably also thinks the US won WW2 all by itself. China fucking OWNS the US, literally. You owe them more than the US GDP. It's hilarious that anyone in the US could be so delusional as to think China doesn't have you by the balls.
>>673609397
not that anon but I will never ever
ever ever
watch my gf fuck a nigger and then be forced to suck his cock
ever ever ever ever
that will never happen
I call the shots at home
>>673609266
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/22-hillary-clinton-emails-declared-top-secret-218420
Whoever, being entrusted with or having lawful possession or control of any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, note, or information, relating to the national defense, (1) through gross negligence permits the same to be removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of his trust, or to be lost, stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, or (2) having knowledge that the same has been illegally removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of its trust, or lost, or stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, and fails to make prompt report of such loss, theft, abstraction, or destruction to his superior officer—
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.
>>673609335
Wasn't me. Find something else to get mad at.
>>673609613
>claimed the protesters at his rallies were "Bernie's people".
because they were.
>>673609685
Good man. That's what I like to hear
>>673603081
Because at this point he is a brand, not a leader. I question the legality of the use of his companies as part of the campaign. Is he paying his companies with campaign funds? If he became President would he divest himself of control of his companies to avoid a conflict of interest? I don't think he will become Hitler but I do think his crass demeanor would be a detriment to the country. I don't like that all the debates have been is bluster and bullshit. I wouldn't think of voting for him until I felt he had a grasp of the issues.
>>673603081
Considering the President has no controkl over the economy, the deficit, the job market, taxes, and we're still the wealthiest and most powerful nation on Earth, most of your points are absolutely irrelevant.
Every candidate wants to exterminate Isis, so that's also moot, and they're all great negotiators, or they wouldn't be running for President.
So, you're only two points are; isn't bought out by special interests and, putting China and Mexico back in their place.
Trump IS a special interest group, and you can bet that while he's in office, he's going to be using his new political power to strengthen and create new business ties, so that when he gets out he can become even wealthier.That's his M.O.
Mexico is already a third world shithole, so nothing he can do there.
China is a phenomenal ally, and their low cost manufacturing is a great boon to the US economy .It allows businesses to produce larger quantities of product at a lower cost, which drives the price down of each product, making it easier to afford for the consumer.
So, every one of your points is either a bad thing, or something he has no control over.
That's why I'm not voting for Trump.
>>673609009
Haha, did your daddy run the company? Most people that start labour jobs nowadays get started at minimum wage to kill themselves until they've sucked the boss's dick long enough to get a raise, which still isn't worth it when looking at how the workers make compared to how much the boss's profits, because he dealt with all of the bullshit beauracracy.
Or you can join the union that most places don't want to deal with anymore because they are so expensive and you have to deal with so much red tape, and then the union ntakes 20% of your earnings on top of what you already gave to the fucking government.
>>673609825
Lol fuck off loser
so since bernie claims to be a democratic socialist, does that mean he's for social ownership of the means of production or is he not a democratic socialist
>>673609397
I would murder you, faggot.
>>673609713
There is nothing in that article that suggests Clinton engaged in illegal activity or that she is likely to be charged with any.
You faggots are living in a fantasy world.
>>673605288
Finally, someone who isnt a fucking drooling retard in this thread
>>673609266
So its ok to be a shitty human being or is that mandatory to be in American politics.
>>673610020
>loser
says the faggot who keeps posting BLM trolls at a Social Security rally as if it means something
>>673609664
>Typical uneducated american retard who probably also thinks the US won WW2 all by itself
Nice strawman, faggot
>China fucking OWNS the US, literally. You owe them more than the US GDP.
China holds approximately 5% of the US debt. They're not even the majority holder by a long shot. This isn't even some crazy wild secret, you can literally google this shit in a few seconds to not look like a moron.
>It's hilarious that anyone in the US could be so delusional as to think China doesn't have you by the balls.
Pic related
>>673610284
I hate to break it to you, but being someone you don't like isn't illegal XD
>>673610368
>XD
>>>/reddit/
>>673610026
>so since bernie claims to be a democratic socialist, does that mean he's for social ownership of the means of production or is he not a democratic socialist
A progressive tax structure, social security, food stamps, pell grants, and subsidizing food production are all SOCIALIST activities.
Are you going to suggest that since Trump took some tax breaks that he's not really a capitalist?
>>673610524
I owned you faggot
owned
XDXDXDXD
Why's this fucking faggot always slack jawed in every picture I see of him? Jaw ruined from sucking too much cock?
>>673610155
The IT staffer that set up her server was granted immunity from prosecution two weeks ago. That means there's a strong possibility that she broke the law, and that an investigation is under way. Stay tuned, she might be in for a bad time.
>>673610299
Yikes
>>673609266
>name even one law Clinton broke
She or someone in her administration probably removed the security label from some documents before sending them around through the email server in question. That's illegal.
Fairly minor, and I imagine they'll gloss over it, but if it was you or me, they'd nail us to the wall.
>>673610633
So in other words, you still have nothing that proves Clinton broke the law and are relying on utter speculation as the basis for your argument.
I'm truly shocked by this.
>be a trump edgelord
>shit post on 4chins
>pretend that I matter for another day
why life /b/
>>673609962
no actually i just looked on craiglist, i live in backwards Oklahoma were the cost of living is cheap and unions have little power, i went to a trade school for free though some high school concurrent enrollment program.
>>673610026
Democsoc have never been socialist, not in 1848 and still not in 2016
>>673610816
so you don't know either
k
>>673610559
>are all SOCIALIST activities.
But has nothing to do with social ownership over the means of production
>that since Trump took some tax breaks that he's not really a capitalist?
Has nothing to do with private ownership over the means of production
>>673607358
I think you got baited. I hope atleast
>>673610849
why does it fucking matter? Your opponent thinks socialism=Kim Jong Un
And for the record, Sanders is advocating Roosevelt New Deal type policies. He's said this in speech after sppech.
>>673610343
Lrn2logic faggot. I made an observation, not an argument against a position you don't hold that I made up. No wonder you're so ignorant.
>>China holds approximately 5% of the US debt. They're not even the majority holder by a long shot. This isn't even some crazy wild secret, you can literally google this shit in a few seconds to not look like a moron.
Now THAT is a straw man. I never mentioned a single country other than the US & China, let alone claimed that China owns the entirety of all US trade debt. You're retarded.
>>673611036
So in actuality he is a social democrat
>>673609664
The US owes China 1.25 trillion dollars. http://ticdata.treasury.gov/Publish/mfh.txt
The GDP of the US is 17.4 trillion dollars.
http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.MKTP.CD
Every year, the USA buys 37.15 billion dollars worth of Chinese goods.
https://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html
Tell me again how China "owns the US", and how we "owe them more than the US GDP".
>>673610835
> in highschool
Times have changed dude. There's simply more competition at the bottom rung. Automation ate most of the manufacturing jobs.
> i live in backwards Oklahoma
And where the masses of people are they have massive amounts of competition. There's also the really kick-ass jobs and some decent social programs, but life is cheap when there's this much of it on the bottom rung.
>>673611145
I still don't care
Sanders wants the people to have a say over the means of production. There is literally nothing wrong with this.
>>673610817
Not the guy you were originally arguing with; just pointing out what the current situation is. I honestly don't care if she broke any laws or not. She's just a shitty person in general, and a vote for her is a vote for the status quo. Whether she broke the law or not, she set up a private mail server to avoid FOIA requests and governmental transparency and archiving. Why would you vote for someone like that?
>>673611006
>social ownership over the means of production
That's actually more of a Marxist thing.
Turns out his ideas didn't work.
Socialists aren't communists.
>>673611523
actually that's the definition of democratic socialism
>>673611428
You have no evidence Clinton had any motivation to do any such thing.
And yes, I would vote for or against someone based on their attention to the issues, not whether a handful of Republicans do a witch hunt to try and make something their shit stick.
>>673611402
so he wants a janitor who has been with the company for two days to have some controlling shares in the company and have a say in its 20 year business plan?
fuck that.
>>673611402
>There is literally nothing wrong with this
lol
>>673607841
But we have Bernie
Who is the better than webb or anyone else running
>>673611722
Yeah you can show me in the fine print where Sanders is advocating that exact thing, zoz
>>673611770
OK, I'll bite. Do you even know what "industrial democracy" even is?
>>673611784
this
>>673603081
>"going to bring down the debt"
Right off you show you don't know what you're talking about
>>673611272
>Tell me again how China "owns the US",
If they STOP buying us bonds, then we're pretty fucked. They own about as much as Japan now, but Japan isn't buying any more.
>and how we "owe them more than the US GDP".
Yeah, he fucked that up. We recently have more debt then the GDP. It's a bad economic sign for the government. 11% of our taxes (and China's loan) currently go towards paying just the interest on the debt.
I understand taking a loan to do business and grow the economy, but when bad times come, it makes them that much worse.
The real measurement is Debt to GDP as a ratio, and yeah, it's getting alarmingly high.
>>673609962
Not really, electricians, and plumbers make 60k to 100K I'm not saying all skilled labor is good but it beats making 40k to be a programmer
>>673611822
>zoz
what the fuck is this shit? i only see it on this awful board so i assume it's cancer
donald trump is the only legitimate candidate, you hear his words yet look at his proposed actions on paper and he looks legit, all he needs is an adviser and somebody to help him shape up his delivery.
THE DON 2016! (either the don, or hitlary who would sell her children, or bernie cuck and the other lazy liberal faggot looking bums)
>>673611957
yes everything you don't like is cancer
we get that
also, top zoz
>>673611134
>Now THAT is a straw man. I never mentioned a single country other than the US & China, let alone claimed that China owns the entirety of all US trade debt. You're retarded
Let's examine that:
>China fucking OWNS the US, literally. You owe them more than the US GDP.
China doesn't "OWN" the US. We owe them 1.24 trillion dollars. Our GDP is 16.77 trillion. Which number is bigger?
Look man, this is the second time you could have just used google to not look like a massive retard. China doesn't "OWN" the US, literally or figuratively.
>>673612001
>donald trump is the only legitimate candidate
no
Ever visit /D? ever see thos request threads for through and through? as in cock entering the ass and popping out the mouth, getting fucked so hard your like a polishing cloth for that monster Dick? That's the 1st 4 years of the Drumpf presidency man, if you think a guy who trades on his name alone while fucking investors hard enough to reach orbit cares for you and yours? sorry, nope. Start stockpiling lube and MRE's now for the Fucking/Apocolypse that will be the Drumpf white house for Joe Average.
>>673612019
anything that comes out of /b/ is cancer
>>673604419
Mmhmm mhm ok.
Meanwhile bernie says everything is free and white people don't know what it is to be poor.
>>673611784
webb, is way better, actually did more than just be professional politician his whole life, he doesnt pander to idiots and would shut down all the republicans claiming to love Ronald Reagan as he actually knew Reagan and worked in his administration. also him shuting down warhawks who never served in there life would be worth watching.
>>673611715
>You have no evidence Clinton had any motivation to do any such thing.
Oh yeah, I'm sure the reason she did that was because she wanted to find out how mail servers work. I'm sure her reason for it (convenience) was entirely plausible, that she had to dedicate a room of her house, run 240v three phase power lines in, and have staff managing this fucking thing and making sure it's secure is a lot more convenient than just using the government email account she was provided. Give me a break.
>>673611272
I seem to recall my claims were a counter to your claims, and you just proved your claims are bullshit. Thank you come again.
>>673612184
then why the fuck are you still here
>>673604317
in fact, he does. check his website, all layed out. check his plans on the mexican border, legit.
keep your eyes open and actually research like a normal functioning human being.
will berniebots and all of reddit commit suicide when shillary btfos bernie
>>673612344
>Give me a break.
No
the question has been asked repeatedly
"which laws did Clinton break?"
So far it's just a bunch of stupid predictable faggotry
The answer is "none," and there is no evidence Clinton is going to be charged with a crime.
>>673612531
faggot
I'm not voting for him because he once tackled and punched a man at a professional wrestling match. How low class can one sentence get? Between that, hosting reality TV, and the gaudy and vulgar style of everything he does, he's got to be the most thoroughly tasteless individual ever to run for public office. I don't say that because I have a high opinion of politicians. He never speaks in anything but small words and short sentences, and has the linguistic skill and style of a retarded child. The thoughts that he manages to express are rarely more complex.
He does not care at all about the U.S. constitution, civil rights, or basic civility. He once argued with a reporter about whether or not citizenship for people born in the U.S. is guaranteed by the constitution, claiming that it isn't. What kind of retard runs for president without reading the constitution? You can read the whole damn thing in about ten minutes.
He's contradicted himself on damn near everything he's ever said in public. He says whatever is politically convenient. He's a fear monger and a hate monger, and relies heavily on making people feel like they are being put at risk by people who are different from them, be it racially, politically, or otherwise.
He has no political experience and no military experience. He was popular before he ever had anything resembling a political platform. He is very good at convincing people that he's right, which he does mostly via the expression of huge and completely unfounded self confidence and simple-minded speech patterns. He's an extreme narcissist, and spends half of his speaking time talking about how great he is and how everybody loves him. He's basically conned people into believing the ridiculously narcissistic and small minded things that he thinks about himself. His whole strategy is to pretend to be a tough guy, which is a political strategy that might be expected of a baboon.
>>673608585
Not even close. China has leveraged their economy with the US obligations they purchased. If they kill the US economy they go down with it.
>>673612425
Not that anon, but Trump has absolutely no plan on how the wall will be constructed or paid for.
And no, Mexico isn't footing the bill, we can throw that out the window immediately.
>>673612581
And my response was, I'm not really interested in which laws she broke, if any. She's shown herself to be a corrupt and shitty person that can't be trusted, and that a vote for her is a vote for cronyism.
>>673612367
Your claims are: The US debt to China is greater than the US GDP, which I proved factually incorrect by showing those two figures.
China owns the US, which I also proved factually incorrect by showing how much China exports to the US each year, a pitifully small amount.
And that China could "ruin the US economy on a whim", which is evidently untrue given the cited figures I've presented.
I'm not here to tell you that you're a moron, but your statements were absolutely incorrect in every possible manner.
>>673612641
order your rope in advance buddy
>>673612030
All you can do is dodge eh? I made you post the proof that the US is severely in debt to China, which automatically refutes your claim that the US has any control over China. The exact numbers aren't relevant to me, as I'm not american. I don't particularly care how accurate the numbers are, the fact is you are in the red in your relationship with China, meaning you don't get to say shit to them.
>>673612895
no she hasn't, and you have no basis for that opinion, either
>>673603081
He has not logistical plans for his wall, health care, education, etc.
He is pro-life in all cases, including incest/rape.
He supports the Second Amendment.
He supports a flat tax.
He believes global warming is a Chinese hoax.
Likewise, he believes that there is no negative impacts from continuing to use oil and coal.
He "would certainly implement" a database for tracking Muslims in the United States.
He support Vladimir Putin.
He has no respect for figures of authority.
I don't like his face.
His supporters are all dipshit memesters.
>>673612755
>>673613121
you can't argue with these idiots
"a politician did something that isn't illegal but might be ethically questionable!"
"i know how politics work!"
lol x infinity
>>673605492
i can't tell if you're joking. Just blocking the tpp and raising tariffs will create hundreds of thousands of American jobs if not millions. Donald Trump is a businessman it's in his best interests to have a booming economy in America. Idk why I'm telling a bunch of retards who base their opinions off memes but whatever.
>>673612914
No, you can go ahead and call him a moron. He keeps defending an indefensible position after repeatedly being shown why.
>>673603081
Con Man
The moderators had to tell him the other night that what he was saying was contradicted by what his website says he'll do.
Trump smoothly lied "I've changed my mind"
>>673613160
reddit spotted
>>673612755
Quite well stated.
>>673603081
I will vote for him if he is the gop nominee. Otherwise I'm voting for Cruz. Trump will build a wall, then what? Then he is a Democrat after that.he has nothing left.
>>673613094
> I made you post the proof that the US is severely in debt to China
I showed that the US is NOT as severely in debt to China as you're daydreaming about.
>The exact numbers aren't relevant to me, as I'm not american
Are you sure? You're stupid enough to be an American.
Even if your fantasy situation were true, how does that benefit China? Think things through here. Let's suppose we owe China 20 trillion. Let's say China attacks one of our ships sailing through international waters that they think is their property. Let's now suppose China asks for their money and we go "nope fgts, deal with it." WTF is China going to do about it, go to war with a military that dwarfs theirs? Cry to the UN to make us give the money back? Ok.
>>673613869
>Then he is a Democrat
nice meme rato
Sorry for being ignorant, but can someone summarize what bernie/trump are trying to achieve in one sentence for each?
>>673613121
Yeah ok, keep the blinders on.
>>673613989
Bernie believes capitalsim doesn't work for industry that doesn't obey supply and demand, like education and healthcare.
Trump wants to be president
>>673613285
>"a politician did something that isn't illegal but might be ethically questionable!"
>Ethically questionable candidates are the best kind!
>She should run the whole government
>>673613989
more jobs and security
free shit and fuck wallstreet
>>673613989
Trump: make America great again
Bernie: lazy Niggers love me
>>673613989
Bernie: I don't understand economics or foreign policy
Trump: What a coincidence, neither do I!
>>673609136
very well-articulated
>>673614277
so trump has no legitimate goals?
>>673614389
security of what?
>>673614486
nice meme
>>673614641
so we're fucked?
>>673611523
Sorry mate, but socialism is literally defined as the social ownership of the means of production, don't know what else to tell you.
you could have stopped it
>>673614797
Your dumb. I'm glad your not a registered votor.
>>673614641
This is the most accurate statement yet.
>>673604419
Dear Bernie fags.
Hitler was a socialist.
Just like Bernie.
>>673615150
you're*
voter*
>>673614277
>industry that doesn't obey supply and demand
>>673603081
BC HES THE EPITOME OF A CUCK...he allows betas to be betas. It's total disruption of natural selection.
>>673612251
>trump thinks hes been proven right when he just got close
>>673614797
No, not entirely fucked. Fortunately, our system of government has methods to protect itself from overly stupid presidents. Most likely what will happen is if Trump/Sanders become president, congress and the judiciary won't go along with 99% of their ideas and nothing will get done for 4 years.
Sadly, this is turning out to be another one of these elections where the choice is between someone that's bad and someone that's worse.
>>673615341
Yes, I am
>>673615480
what is a republican congress not going to allow, a wall?
when you don't know national socialism and true socialism are different things on opposite ends of the political spectrum.
>>673608283
>Politifact
i only looked at the front page and found that everything sanders said was true and everything trump said was a lie.
bernie and trump are both shit just different looking piles, trump appeals to the retarded racist shutins, bernie to the naive drooling kids
I voted for hillary.
>>673615871
The republican establishment, especially those in office, really hate Trump. They'll do what they always do when someone they don't like is in office and tank their ideas, even if they agree with them. It's politics, it doesn't have to be rational.
>a wall
Well, he claimed he'll make Mexico pay for it. The president (and several former presidents) of Mexico basically told him to get fucked. I don't think a republican congress is going to be very supportive if he still wants to do the idea for a bunch of america bucks.
>>673611722
Because some cocained investor who has never been in the company can decide to fuck to hell the company with a short term investment without consulting workers who are in since 20 years and will lose their jobs while the capitalist is full of money?
>>673603081
for me, I am just apathetic. Voting does not matter since the Electoral is in place instead of using the Popular vote. Fuck voting. It's a waste of time so that the gov't can keep track of yall's ass since all ya'll are registered dumbfucks. Fuck voting. Fuck Politicks. It's all bullshit.
>going to bring down the debt
by increasing gov spending
>bringing high paying jobs back to the US
by force
>putting china and mexico back in their place
by letting them cuck his wife
>simple, logical tax plan
Robin Hood is a childhood hero
>one of the best negotiators in the world
right...
>isn't bought out by special interests
its true, peoples money is his onlyinterest
>wants to exterminate isis
with smaller army ofc
>wants to bring the u.s back to the superpower state it once was
he cant, I want free money, but it doesnt work that way
The best outcome to this election is to just not vote for anyone. They are all crocks of shit. There is no lesser of evils this time around. It is all a bunch of fools.
>>673616587
lol
>>673616739
To cuck his wife would be to fuck him in front of her.
>>673617074
exactly
>>673616739
t. jeb bush
>>673616568
You do realize there's more than one way to make Mexico pay, right?
>>673616962
Rand Paul is dumb.
>>673617325
Nothing like extorting your neighbor and ally to get along
>>673614954
Damn you Rand. You better run again, and again, and again until you're elected.
>>673617325
Please explain how, and it better not be something only Trump would dream up like "put a tariff on jaritos"
>>673612755
/thread
>>673617603
Mexico must pay for the wall and, until they do, the United States will, among other things: impound all remittance payments derived from illegal wages; increase fees on all temporary visas issued to Mexican CEOs and diplomats (and if necessary cancel them); increase fees on all border crossing cards of which we issue about 1 million to Mexican nationals each year (a major source of visa overstays); increase fees on all NAFTA worker visas from Mexico (another major source of overstays); and increase fees at ports of entry to the United States from Mexico [Tariffs and foreign aid cuts are also options]. We will not be taken advantage of anymore.
*cough* Hitler *cough* same points
>>673617866
back to tumblr faggot.
>be Donald Trump
>"we need to torture people more"
>some shitheel protester grabs his leg
>"OMG PROTECT ME!"
>>673617866
other than killing a couple million jews hitler was an alright guy
>>673617866
Jokes on you fuck boy, I'd vote for Hitler.
>>673618064
>retard talking point
>doesnt know how to greentext properly
see
>>673617933
dumb newfaggot
>>673618106
other than killing a couple million jews he also drove his own country to its knees with unsustainable wars.
>>673617840
Why the FUCK would it be the Mexican govt's responsiblity to pay for that? Or why the Mexican people would agree to raising taxes for THAT?
Saying making it harder for someone from mexico to work/live in the usa is GOOD for the US economy then why not go further? Implement massive fees for state, county borders. Economic boom of the century!
>>673618516
but besides that he was a stand-up citizen
>>673618516
>implying he started ww2
>>673612755
notice how no repubfags are responding to this. The reasonable, intelligent liberal speaks the truth once again. You'd never see a post this thought out and coherent denouncing Bernie.
>>673618871
>reasonable
>intelligent
>no actual policy arguments
>>673617840
> impound all remittance payments derived from illegal wages
Genuinely curious how he plans on doing this. As soon as he begins impounding money transferred to Mexican banks, everyone is just going to move it by cash.
> increase fees on all temporary visas issued to Mexican CEOs and diplomats
Expect far fewer trips by Mexican CEOs and diplomats, especially if they know their visa payments are going to build a wall they don't support. Even if they didn't bother boycotting, how much money is this actually going to generate vs. the total cost of a wall?
> Increase general visa cards
Just going to throw this out there since I live in San Diego, but the vast majority of those passport-card holders work in the US legally and simply live in Mexico because it's far cheaper. The drive from Mexico to San Diego is literally like 15 minutes, but the rent is like 1/10 of what it costs to live here. So, by increasing the cost of visas across the board, he's either going to punish workers that pay taxes in the US, or just prevent them from working in the US so they don't pay taxes and we end up paying for the wall ourselves in lost revenue.
it would be funny to see him become president just to see how many butthurt libtards and sjws there will be
>>673618824
>implying the autistic response of invading every neighboring country is justified by him not being the first to throw a punch
>>673604317
as compared to bernie's plan for everything?
>tax da wallstreet and rich people
>>673619323
> John Hansen
More like John Handsome m i rite
>>673612755
>Trump is a uneducated redneck and speaks like a retard
>US citizens understand him
>wins election
If you believe politics is about politics youre a retard. people vote for trump not because they believe hes a good candidate or trust him as president but because hes not a "politican", its a way of protesting i guess.
US is a joke and trump is a produt of that joke...
And btw, you only called him a retard and hes supporters and people think youre "smart" thats how retarded the US people is. Im not even american, but you people be duuumb
>>673619526
he didn't he invaded the ones that declared war on him, he left switzerland alone, he also had no problem with the Icelandic countries.
>>673619562
dem rich people have all da good healthcare foodz n educaation stocked up samwhere i KNOW it
>>673609685
hahaha keep telling yourself that faggot
you won't even know when it happens
>>673603081
Trump supporters are the tumblrinas of the right.
>>673619995
>Poland
>The USSR
>Greece
>Every North African country
"He only invaded the ones that declared war on him."
>>673603081
I am poor and I like the handouts I will get from bernie.
>>673620534
>implying poland didn't ask for it
>implying it wasn't a surprise attack before the ussr invaded
>>673619995
Poland, Norway, Belgium, Greece, USSR...
>>673613306
"Best interest?" His suits are made in China. This is true autism at its finest.
>>673620730
>Implying poland wanted to be invaded
>Implying Stalin was going to invade Germany
>Skipped the other countries I mentioned
>>673620730
>sending military troops to stomp villages
>ye but u was asking for it
All republicans tax cut plans would increase deficits and the debt. Maybe, they're just promising cuts and would change, but now that republicans control both houses their latest budget is projected to increase the deficit again after it has been reduced the first 7 years of Obama's presidency. Care about the debt? Don't vote Republican
>>673620907
>impying any country wants to be invaded
>>673621040
>you're right we should raise everyones taxes. i'm sure the rich people who can afford tax shelters will pay them
>>673621040
But definitely don't vote Democrat, if there is one thing that will sure as hell make the debt go up it's INCREASING spending.
>>673621082
>"poland didn't ask for it"
What could have poland done to piss Hitler off
>>673605291
Who The fuck cares about amerifats lives?
>>673621280
And yet the deficit has decreased each year under Obama and increase in spending has been the lowest since Eisenhower! Doesn't sound like you know what you're talking about
Because I'm a fucking Canadian
>>673619995
>he didn't he invaded the ones that declared war on him
No, he went around annexing territories that had large German populations under the pretense that those populations were under threat and would prefer to be part of Germany. They started shelling Westerplatte to provoke a response from Poland, since the Free City of Danzig was predominantly German, in hopes to annex that too. Eventually, after leveling a Polish fort, they just made some shit up that they were attacked first and invaded the entire country. That's when the rest of the world kind of knew the jig was up and declared war on Germany.
It makes a lot more sense if you understand the context of the start of the war. WW1 ended without an invasion into Germany. As soon as it became evident that WW1 was headed for an allied victory, Germany capitulated without suffering a home invasion to spare German lives and infrastructure. After the Treaty of Versailles was imposed on Germany, many Germans were extremely resentful of the way the war ended. The general feeling was that Germany just "gave up," and could have made a decisive comeback. This feeling was especially strong among WW1 vets (guess who ended up running Germany after WW1 and wanted to take another shot at world domination).
>>673621280
Bro, do you even economics?
>>673621690
debt = spending money you don't have
If the chimpout in Chicago wasn't enough of a show of how absolutely scared, insane, and retarded Bernie Sanders supporters are then I can't help you out bro.
>Exhibit A
https://youtu.be/YU3vcvGpALQ
Seriously watch that entire video and try not to turn it off from the amount of pure stupidity.
Trump is our next president, no question about it.
>>673621320
oppressed the german population and refused to take negotiations seriously. from the beginning hitler was worried about the USSR invading romania and taking their oil supply (as he says in the mannerheim tapes). what is the logic in starting a war with the west
>>673621425
?
>>673603081
/ company's gone bankrupt in the last two years
Outsourced to 4000jobs to mexico
All his hotles are financed by China
The guy is a hypocrit and a liar and yet you still go for him
Destroy ISIS lmao you just gonna make more terrorists like the last 15 years of american politics
Stupi mother fuckers
>>673621917
Germany didn't control Romania until he invaded it, it was never his to begin with.
>>673603081
Legitimate reason: Bernie is a ton better for the individual, for the country, and for everyone other than the 1%.
Legitimate reason : You have to be a retarded neckbeard red neck or or uneducated to believe anything Trump is sellling.
Legitimate reason: Other countries won't "deal" or negotiate with him. He is basically universally hated. Sanders is universally seen as a compassionate man who cares about the little guy, the country, and fixing a broken system.
Those are some starter reasons.
>>673620534
>>673620730
>>673620828
>>673620907
Fun fact: Germany and the USSR were allies at the start of the war. In act, they agreed to invade Poland together, splitting the country into two territories that they would both own. Germany had no intention of invading the USSR until they got their shit destroyed by tiny Finland, at which point they decided to open an Eastern front through a sneak attack, assuming it would all be over in a matter of months.
>>673622103
>have hundreds of successful businesses
>4 go bankrupt
>make money on 3 of them
>>673622315
Bernie Sanders has close ties to multiple terrorist organisations including BLM, ISIS, El Chapo. They have already performed multiple terrorist attacks on Donald Trump and his supporters. Do you disavow Bernie Sanders terrorist campaign of terror?
>>673603081
>mfw this thread
If you're voting for trump you must be part of the "my parents are siblings" demographic.
>>673605288
Thanks for your completely anecdotal testimony if how YOU feel. It doesn't make it true. Please give an example about where he lied about his experience on a subject.
>>673622158
because that is where germany's oil came from and he wanted to protect it. in the (private) tapes he says that if the USSR had simply invaded romania they could have taken the oil and won right there. knowing this why would he start a war with the west. this also ignores the dozen peace treaties he offered
>>673621917
Poland Oppressed the german population..
So, not giving them territory is oppression? What IF they did give into the German demands, do you think history would be much different?
>>673622504
t. redditor
>>673622084
Deficits (millions of $)
FY 2010 -1,294,373
FY 2011 -1,299,590
FY 2012 -1,086,963
FY 2013 -679,544
FY 2014 -484,627
FY 2015 -438,406
Do you need help?
>>673605842
Like we can't name a disaster democrat, what a failed argument. WHAT ABOUT BUSH THOUGH HE'S BASICALLY TRUMP. Even though Trump denounced Jeb BUSH.
>>673615219
So if Hitler was a socialist, he hated Bolshevism because...?
>>673622279
germany made a pact with the USSR to discourage the allies from getting involved. The USSR knew this, and could have potentially stopped the war from starting by refusing to cooperate. Roosevelt could have potentially stopped the war by telling the poles that germany had made a pact with the USSR, forcing the poles to negotiate
>>673622315
Hundreds !!!! Just a slight exageration there
7 bankrupt in the last 2 years
The guy is a liar he does NOT have as much money or success as he claims.
Plus he is a hate mongerer
Thinking you can fight terrorism in countries far from your own by bombing them is just plain stupid.
But then amerifats are not known for their intelligence just look at your stupid fuck gun laws. Fucking idiots
>>673622833
if you keep going negative eventually the counter flips and reverts to 99999999999999999 that wont happen unless Bernie Sanders win
>>673615219
>>673622643
you realize germans were killed and oppressed economically
>>673622601
Hitler hated the slavs, he was going to invade the USSR sooner or later. Hitler broke the non aggression pact they had signed anyway. (Which was proposed by the Germans)
At the very most, the germans should have built a stocky defense similar in ambition to the Atlantic wall if they were so worried.
>>673622504
>Trump supporters
>degenerates
look up the definition of that word before you continue using it
im voting for hillary, will be funny as fuck to watch her bring this shithole to its knees. Will also make feminazis question themselves.
THERE ARE NO BRAKES ON THE TRUMP TRAIN
>>673623053
sorry paco rodriguez you have to go back.
>>673608362
i guess you call athiest-roo wacist too
>>673607659
Betacucknig spotted
>>673623176
That was from the Treaty of Versailles, and Poland didn't even exist when it was signed.
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>>673623181
russia had assembled a shitlord of troops and 34k tanks near the russian border which is why hitler invaded
>>673621885
>that kid with the mullet
10/10 raged holy fuck
Old dude ruined it by getting up in his face though
>>673622207
>(Trump) is basically universally hated.
Translation: Trump isn't regarded as an easy to rip off chump.
>Sanders is universally seen as a compassionate man who cares about the little guy
Translation: Sanders IS regarded as an easy to rip off chump.
He's is doing the best election campaing, if you know what I mean.
Mental tricks to convince the masses, bullying the opponents.
And it's not even his "final form", I'm sure that both is gonna be president and ends up shooted.
>>673621885
>implying Trump supporters aren't retarded
>>673623378
the treaty of versailles killed germans in poland?
>>673607861
YOU don't even know what Racism is. How is he racist asking ILLEGAL immigrants be thrown out of America. ILLEGAL ONES I'll say it twice because I know you're slow and buzzwords trigger your impulaive mind.
>>673603081
id rather my arab girlfriend not get chased out of the country because of his profiling ass.
>>673603081
>going to bring down debt
kek he's going to do that by implementing 10 trillion dollars in tax cuts we can't afford?
>>673623522
Oh no, I was talking about the economic part
To be honest I didn't know about the polish killing germans in poland, so I'll give you that one.
>>673623184
the definition fits lol
>>673623003
You realize that the Molotov–Ribbentrop treaty was signed like days before the invasion of Poland, and also allowed Russia to take Romania, Estonia, Lithuania, Latvia and Finland, right? The reason there was a pact in the first place was because Hitler saw the USSR as a juggernaut that could ruin his shit massively if he went to war with them. He began to doubt that opinion when he saw them get rocked by Finland not once but twice. The idea what he was trying to protect Romania is a fantasy - he GAVE Romania to the USSR in exchange for them not attacking Germany or aiding or allying with any of Germany's enemies.
>>673623527
this country was built of people stealing the land rightfully belonging to another people.
>>673603081
Because I am a goddamned Communist heathen!
>>673622833
the debt started in 2008 crash, good job obama...
Dont let bernie fuck up the buisness that makes the debt go lower, tax increases when buisness go good.
>>673609613
Hold up, let me listen to Rakeem I'm sure this motherfucker has no ulterior motives just like the thug rioters in Chicago.
>>673623750
you dont have to tell the government that she is a terrorist
>>673624126
shes.not a terrorist shes a furry.
>>673623937
>being this cucked
>>673609664
Typical Liberal moron.
>>673623527
Trump is buzzword incarnate, it's his job as a salesman (hint: not a politician) to sell shit to you no matter how low the worth. Most of the time that's just blaming those pesky muslims, gotta keep em out right?
>>673623937
0/10
>>673623184
>Having lost the physical, mental, or moral qualities considered normal and desirable; showing evidence of decline.
>>673623460
take your pyramid schemes elsewhere, trump
>>673624240
>being an ignorant shithead.
mexicans work harder thanamericans, they come here becausefor some crazyass reason they see this racist cunthole of a country beautiful
>>673623460
Ridiculous, there's no room for the grain
>>673603081
because he has no real plan to do any of those things, no knowledge or experience in government, and has led a blatantly anti-american racist campaign
>>673624447
they're just trying to get through to canada
>>673623797
>To be honest I didn't know about the polish killing germans in poland
That was Hitler's go-to excuse for invasion of everywhere. He used the same excuse to annex Czechoslovakia. In reality, he wanted the Free City of Danzig, which had a port and was conveniently predominantly German, whose population hated being part of Poland and wished to be part of Germany. Meanwhile, Poles were a minority in Danzig. Kind of hard to oppress and murder Germans willy nilly if you're greatly outnumbered by them - and the evidence for something like that happening on any significant scale simply doesn't exist.
>>673624302
>hundreds of years of politicians screwing everyone over trying to get elected for money and power
already has money and power comes along
>DAS RACISS
>MUH MINIMUM WAGE
>>673623423
But they didn't do anything, they were just there.
What if the Russians hadn't massed troops on the border, do you think Hitler wouldn't have invaded Russia?
>>673603081
Because I'd rather pay more tax and have free healthcare and education. I also don't feel like committing war crimes for a dude that isnt't confident about his dick size
>conservicucks
more spending on war and israel
>libcucks
more spending on shitskins and bigger government
>>673624580
ew i fuckibg hate canada, theyre whiter than the norse, i mean im mosyly german, but i dont want to be blinded by people that fucking pale.
>>673624777
"bigger government" How?
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