How accurate are these until empty gauges?
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How accurate are these until empty gauges?
it doesn't matter. you should never let your tank get that low, it's bad for the fuel pump
>>672878517
Absolutely right, fill up with 3/4 tank left
>>672878346
Bout 25 miles or so.
>>672878517
>>672878645
Look at mr moneybags
Nice ford
>>672878346
There's usually wiggle room, 20 miles past "0 to empty" should be fine.
If it doesn't work out, a nice trucker will give you a ride to the nearest gas station... But remember, nothing is free ;)
>>672878670
They are accurate but the word "empty" could be deceiving. There are usually a few gallons left after your tank is "empty" which is useful to people like yourself.
This isn't bad for your fuel pump, it's pumping all of the time regardless. This is some passed down bullshit that people like to spew when they don't know what they are talking about.
>>672878735
are you fucking stupid? what costs more, replacing your burnt out fuel pump or keeping a gerry can or a couple gallons in the tank?
>>672878856
What the fuck is a trucker?
If you run out call sha.
>>672878645
Fill up with 3/4 tank that's fucking stupid. I'd have to stop and fill up every 50 fucking miles 3/4 is the same as 75/100 you know that right?
>>672878908
>running the car dry is not bad for the fuel tank
tell us more mister computermechanic
>>672878999
*pump
i was trippin
>>672878346
You've probably got a gallon left when it says it's "empty". Depending on what car and traffic conditions, figure 25-35mi until it's actually out.
Your pump pumps from the bottom every time anyways. Don't be stupid
>>672878911
Enjoy your fumes you idiot. I guess i understand why you're so retarded, must be all the gas you've been inhaling over the years
>>672878999
It's not dry when it's below 1/4 of a tank. Yes, running it completely out is bad and stupid but making sure you stay above 1/4 of a tank is idiotic. You run way more risk of running out of gas and being stranded in a bad location than you do burning out your fuel pump.
>>672878989
Yes, I know how to reduce fractions
Also, when you get to a half tank, the ethanol they use to dilute the gasoline becomes more concentrated... It's a safety hazard, could cause an explosion in your gas tank.
>>672878908
I'm not sure why you say it's not bad for the fuel pump. Most modern cars are a bypass regulator type which maintains pressure in the rail and bypasses extra volume back to the tank. This cools and lubricates the pump. However they are generally interlocked with an oil pressure switch preventing the pump from running if the engine isn't running which would prevent dry running of the pump when out of fuel...
I dont let my tank get below 7/8 full. If you go anymore than 31/32 you run the chance of burning out fuel filter.
>>672879444
Your mama's asshole could cuz an explosion
>>672879212
if he's driving around with the fuel light on and it telling him he's only got 2 miles left before empty, how many times do you think before he runs it dry?
and yes, even if you don't run it dry, it's still not ideal, any particulate in the tank gets sucked into the filter all at once
>>672879475
The odds of this causing permanent damage is so slim that it's not worth mentioning. It's like saying you shouldn't open the car door to get in or out when it's raining as water could get in the door panel and cause your window switches to malfunction. If you run at E all the time, you're an idiot. If you run through a normal tank of gas and fill up when you're about on E, you're fine.
I just bought the car today and figured I'd try to see how far until actually empty. I had a GMC that said less than 10 miles and I squeezed another 50 miles out of it.
>>672879202
what in the fuck are you talking about. gerry cans have lids. then if you can still smell it, you put it in a garbage bag. i guess someone as fucking mentally impotent as you, who has to ask these kind of questions might not be able to figure that out.
>>672878346
Couple points.
Gas tanks dont get as cruddy anymore. They are plastic, not metal. Its current year not 1960.
Over time, leaving your tank on empty most the time would collect moisture in the tank and cause it to rust. Its not as much of an issue.
There are many filters in the way. Its unlikely to burn out a pump even if foreign mater got in there.
Gas tank measuring is done pretty much with a ping pong ball on a metal stick. Overfill too much and it gets bent over time. Im not sure if this still applies to post 90s vehicles.
They are relatively accurate.
What you have to worry about is leaving a tank on empty all the time and collecting condensation. Like we talking 10-20 years of doing this.
Running out and burning out the pump. That can happen.
Putting shitty gas from an old shitty can in there.
Thats about it.
>>672879552
I guess you should avoid hitting bumps while driving too as this could mix up the particulate in the tank and result it in being sucked up in to the fuel pump...
>>672879781
Way to go Kramer.
>>672879833
I just skip the can and put gas directly into bag. Just make sure you label it.
ONCE your on 0 you have an average of 30 miles to go. It's in your manual.
NOTORIOUSLY inaccurate. The build quality of gas tanks varies, the build quality of the tank sender unit varies, hell- even temperature, barometer and humidity factor in. I had a car that empty MEANT emty, and others with as much as a 4 galon reserve once you hit "E".
If you REALLY want to know, get a gas can with a few gallons in it, and when you're low, drive and drive and drive. You'll know EXACTLY what's really empty.
>>672879851
Someone that knows what they are talking about has joined the thread!
>>672879883
you want it mixed up, moron. that's why you want to keep as much gas in the tank as possible. that way it doesn't all get sucked into the filter at the same time and clog it up. when there's just a tiny bit of gas left in the tank, the particulate is more concentrated
>>672878346
>poor people problems
I fill mine up at half a tank, I have literally never seen the 'low fuel' dummy light ever.
>MFW I see people bring a jar full of pennies to get 10 dollars of fuel.
How bad do you have to suck at life to sink so low you can't afford gasoline.
If you run out of gas, just add 1 cup to 1 gallon of water through fuel filler. It will rinse any residual gas that is stuck to the walls of the gas tank down to the pump. It will run a little rough, but you can limp to the next station.
>>672878346
diesel or petrol-engine?
>>672880312
Wrong again. Sediment settles to the bottom of the tank. The fuel pump inlet is on the bottom of the tank. EVERY TIME you start the engine, it draws at that sediment. Most tanks are plastic now, so this isn't even a real issue now.
>>672880507
Bleach works better. Especially if the vehicle had a steel gas tank.
>>672880447
The car is a Ford explorer platinum edition. It's literally brand new. I drove it off the dealer lot less than 5 hours ago. I'm not poor I've never paid for gas in change I just like pushing the limits.
>>672880591
MHM, stop listening to your parents. They don't know what they are talking about post 1994.
>>672880591
that's correct. and depending how much fuel is in the tank, it will either draw a little or a lot of sediment. thank you for reiterating my point.
>>672880529
Gas cause this is America!
>>672880507
Holy shit this thread has gone off the deep end. I can't even...
Imagine if someone invented an item that filters the fuel so that no shit gets in the engine!
>>672880591
Also, what is strainer sock on fuel pump inlet Alex?
>>672880777
kek'd & check'd
>>672880777
Like some kind of filter. How many microns is a sediment?
>>672880725
If only there was a filter to prevent this...
If only plastic didn't rust...
>>672880775
more like
gone off the derp end
>>672880725
Where's this "sediment" coming from? You WERE aware that fuel systems are returnless... right? Without replaceable fuel filters? Gas quality and plastic tanks have pretty much ended sediment issues.
>>672880663
I don't usually don't carry bleach, but coke does the trick too. Just make sure you run some heavy duty floor cleaner through the tank when you get a chance. The coke gums things up.
>>672880701
You go boy. I too like to play the gas game. I've only lost a couple of times. It's satisfying to coast up to the pump.
>>672880913
>>672880777
what, you mean you have to change filters once they're too full of shit, so you should try and not abuse them? nah, i've never heard of that. let's dump some dirt into the tank, it can take it! there's a filter!
>>672880829
What is this, 1992? That's been replaced by a HUGE in-tank filter that lasts the life of the car. That little "sock" and the inline metal filters are long gone.
>>672880995
oh well i thought we were talking about real machines not the plastic toy cars they sell now, my mistake
>>672878346
My dad was on 0 miles one time for 12 miles driving 60 miles in his truck that gets 18 miles
>>672881174
Sorry, newfriend, whether it's a C-class Mercedes or a Chevy Cobalt, they all use returnless fuel systems now. Regulator right in the pump assembly, BIG filter, and computer-controlled fuel pressure.
>>672881221
>My dad was on 0 miles one time for 12 miles driving 60 miles in his truck that gets 18 miles
>>672881174
I drive a diesel with a 10 ft lift and I blow smoke out my exhaust fuck you fags and your plastic cars. I'm a real man.
>>672881221
I'm guess you do big cums too.
>>672878960
One who drives a truck...
>>672881221
Kek. I like the way you think.
>>672881347
what? his truck gets 18 miles and he drove for half an hour one time which is like 12 miles on 0 miles
>>672881364
#RebelFlagLife
>>672881336
yeah, because they know they won't be on the road for more than about 4 years before planned obsolescence or owner boredom puts an end to its short life
>>672881756
Yes, YES! Your old 1985 Ford Escort certainly was better made and more efficient than about ANY modern car! You so smart!
Obsolence?
My volvo has a 70 litre tank, but a 10 litre fuel system one way to the engine.
The tank can approach empty, and the fuel system will stop dumping fuel into the tank, and simply push any fuel returning to the tank into the main feed for the engine.
So your fuel tracker can read 0 miles to empty, and it'll be right, the tank will be empty, but the fuel lines will not be
>>672881756
The newer explorers are pure shit. My 2013 (105k miles) has been in and out of the shop for suspension issues, wheel bearings (a lot), and a stupid fucking air scoop that keeps falling off of the bottom of the engine... An air scoop on the BOTTOM of the engine, so off-roadable!
I don't thrash vehicles, I have an 06 fusion with 150k miles, still on original clutch and no issues.
>>672881756
It wasn't too long ago that an average car (foreign or domestic) was pretty much done in by 100,000 miles. Maintain a new car just a LITTLE and they will last 200,000 miles. Sir, I think your tinfoil fedora is on a bit tight.
>>672882050
i didn't say more efficient. but i'll take a '85 ford escort over any comparable model from recent years. there is no question that they're better made. more comfortable too. have you noticed that when you get in a new car, no matter what it is, you can't even tell what you're sitting in?
a hundred thousand dollar mercedes has all the same shit plastic controls that a 20 thousand dollar chevy has. new cars are all shit. they all drive nicely for about 50k miles and then implode as they're designed to. and you can't work on them yourselves. plus, no recalls. they actually knew how to build cars in the 20th century.
have fun having your car "hacked" and shut down by some punks
>>672882479
FORD:
Fucking Out Right Dangerous
Fucked Over Rebuilt Dodge
Found On Road Dead
Failure On Race Day
Fix Or Replace Daily
>>672882546
>citation needed
>>672882606
>implying an 85 Escort wasn't all plastic
>implying Escorts didn't have a long, illustrious history of recalls
>>672882812
Ford: The only American car company built without your tax dollars. Plus Henry hated Jews so double win.
>>672883088
>implying Ford does not get huge tax breaks every year, even though they didn't take bailout cash.
>>672883088
that is why they've let detroit burn, methinks. henry knew who was pulling the strings and wasn't afraid to say it.
so they torched his fucking city
>>672883296
>implying any major corporation is the same company that it once was in the 20th century before being taken over by jews
I actually work on cars for a living, and have for awhile. You want a professional opinion on the best car made? The Toyota Camry. It's not a sexy car, it's not an especially quick car, but it simply does not break. Know how many Toyota fuel pumps I've done in 15 years? One. Know how many tie rod ends I've done? Two. It's always just regular maintenance. Fluid services, brakes, tires, etc.
>>672883529
Again, tinfoil fedora on too tight.
>>672882812
Oh geez, a big 3 rivalry?
That explorer is the first shitbox I've had from ford. They all have their own unique issues. But fuck GM
88 f150 was a tank, sold at 300k miles as a daily driver
89 crown Vic, sold at 235k miles
06 fusion, love it
03 ranger, meh, but it never broke down, gave it to my bro
94 grand Cherokee, was OK. Had some issues scrapped at 185k
90 sunbird turbo, fun, but blew the turbo, sold at 150k
95 jag xj6 complete shitbox, more time in the shop than in the road. Took it to a mud bog and let it blow itself up in the swamp
>>672883529
You understand that Ford is a publicly traded company...right? Anyone can buy stock in it? No? Back to your basement Command Center, Warlock.
>>672878346
you usually have 2 gallons once the gauge says empty. every car is different though.
>>672883771
only a total retard would argue that this is not true.
you think ford today is the same ford that henry started? you think the company has the same values and mission?
man i wish i could go back to thinking that everything we read and see on the news is true.
>>672882812
ford: fix it again tony
>>672883296
Every company in the country gets tax breaks one way or another.
>>672883672
I got a 99 Corolla. I hate it, but it's never fucked up. Ever. Got about 400km on it.
>>672883848
My 98 explorer has 365,000 miles on it and is still running, and not like, OMG YES IT STARTED running as is often the case with "Still running". Like, I fully expect to walk to it, start it, and drive it without and problems or noises still running.
I never do though, I bought a 99 Expedition because it was $3000 for 120,000 miles and FUCK YEAH AMERICA
>>672883931
yes, goyim, any goy can buy "stock" with their saved up "paper money"
never cash out, goy! shares will rise!
>>672883428
Niggers ruined the city. The streets of Detroit look like the streets of Africa covered in garbage.
>>672884303
Easy there Mario andretti, you just shoot a little oil in them spark plug holes she go VROOM huh?
itt: real mechanical vehicles and the men who drive them vs. plastic computer controlled toys and teenagers circle jerking about how they're new
>>672884595
well they didn't do it themselves. they weren't in charge of shit
>>672884595
You've never actually been to Detroit have you?
>>672884870
They did it to themselves. They destroy cities. There were plenty of jobs in Detroit for years
>>672884281
Replace JEW with UNION and you're approaching reality
>>672884466
Back when the explorer was on a "truck" chassis
Now they are on the Taurus chassis, and I can't say that I'm impressed with the engineering.
I'm a derroitfag, so it hurts to say that I'm not happy with a domestic product.
>>672885041
I live in Northville about 30 miles west of Detroit.
Ford is based out of Dearborn. There's almost nothing Ford does in Detroit.
>>672884763
Yeah, spraying ether into a carburetor on a cold morning is SO cool
>>672884763
Here's my sweet ride!
>>672879444
Most retarded trips ever
>Spend $800 on 300k mile ford then it dies
>Spend $1300 on a 250k mile ford then it dies
>Spend $2500 on a 200k mile ford, dies
>Get mad, take out a $15+ loan and buy a new/sub 50k mile other brand car because fords died
OH MY GOD THIS (Insert brand) LASTED SO MUCH LONGER FUCKING FORD IS SHIT FOUND OFF ROAD DEAD AMIRITE GUYS
I have no brand loyalty but I see this shit so much, people always start off with Fords because you can get old cheap ones anywhere. You'll always find super high mileage fords for pennies because they are so common, and they really do last a long time with any maintenance.
>>672879883
Tell us more mister fluidmecanic
>>672885414
Ethanol can ignite gas.
>>672885393
Fucking pic didnt send
>>672879552
>repeating stuff my retarded drunk uncle told me growing up
>>672884425
400km? On a 99 corolla?
So many SE Michigan fags in here. Go vote niggers
>>672885590
Whys it upside down?
>>672885173
That explains a lot. I'll bet you think that Westland is "sketchy".
>>672879851
Literally the only sound, actually true advice in this motjerfucking niggershit thread.
>>672885736
Australia
>>672885067
"no business which depends for existence on paying less than living wages to its workers has any right to continue in this country. By "business" I mean the whole of commerce as well as the whole of industry; by workers I mean all workers, the white collar class as well as the men in overalls; and by living wages I mean more than a bare subsistence level-I mean the wages of decent living."
-FDR
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPKKQnijnsM
the brainwash is strong in you.
what if i told you that there is enough wealth to pay everyone union-approved wages and execs and ceos and business owners still get to be wealthy as fuck?
you probably wouldn't believe it. but that is the case.
>>672885543
Alcohol is harder to ignite than gasoline, newfriend. That's actually measurable. That's what OCTANE means. The higher the octane, the more resistant to combustion. Pure alcohol has double the octane of gasoline.
tl;dr: you're an idiot
>>672878346
Fill it with Diesel and make it a run away, then realize you have to be autistic to buy Ford cars after 2005.
>>672880312
>being this fucking retarded
>>672885662
Yeah man. Just needed it's first set of calipers last fall. Other than that just regular maintenance. Oil changes and brakes.
>>672885736 Cuz my phone does that some times. It not literally upside down on the ground if that's what you mean
>>672885978
it's pretty simple, which part are you having trouble with?
>>672885851
Westland is a shithole
This is one of those threads where everyone is trying out troll each other...
>>672885851
Westland/Inkster is sketchy.
>>672885960
The "business owners" are the stockholders.
/discussion
>>672885962
Fucking nobody get this! I used to dyno cars and guys would want to switch to race gas (114 octane) with out changing tune or boost of fuck all, then wonder why they make less power on "track fuel". Fuckin goofs.
>>672885475
I actually got $2500 for the 300k f150 (I'm not saying he got a deal). It still looked and drove like it was new, aside from some wear on the steering wheel and shifter. I still talk to the guy with the crown Vic. Last I spoke to him, he was approaching 400k, he uses it to deliver mail. Developed a small oil pan gasket leak at 325k
I'm not some Ford buddy that's trying to say that Ford is superior. Fords seem to have a different problem for each model. Chryslers seem to have transmission problems. GM seem to have suspension issues
>>672885851
Have some standards. I guess for a nigga Westland isn't too bad.
>>672886236
there are privately owned and publicly owned companies. both. you fucking mongoloid.
>>672878960
thats why trump hates people like you
>>672878908
Actually you're wrong.
Shitty particles float at the top of gas so when the fuel pump starts pumping when the gas is low it will suck contaminits through the injectors and will cause it to get gunk all through it decreasing proformance and maybe breaking something.
>>672886407
The discussion was about FORD, asshat.
>>672885851
Sure buddy, whatever you say :)
>>672886407
Don't you have some park to "occupy"?
>>672886524
no, it wasn't. i was talking about business practices and wealth distribution in the united states. read the fucking post, faggot.
>>672886232
Henry Ford named the city Inkster because he called black people "inkers" that was where he housed his black workers
>>672886439
Truck driver is what people with class call it.
>>672886718
Looks like you wanted a chance to blather your Bernie bullshit to me
>>672886667
don't you have some numbers to punch into a spreadsheet in some cubicle somewhere, #57172333?
>>672879444
You'd better pull that tinfoil hat on a little tighter, some of the crazy's getting out.
>>672886862
bernie is a red herring. anyone who believes he's different from any other candidate is a retard. oh right, i'm in this thread.
>>672886871
>>672886730
The city was founded by some guy with the last name Inkster. Lern to Google.
>>672886305
My experience with Chrysler (in the Midwest) is rust.
They make those things out of the shittiest, thinnest sheet metal you can buy, there is no, oh shit a small rust spot, I can take care of that.
It's oh shit, last night I noticed a small rust spot and I fell through the floorboard this morning when I woke up.
Which fucking sucks because I really wanted an old Cherokee, but everything over $100k miles you could blow on and the rust would float off in to the sunset like a fucking dandelion
>>672879538
>burning out fuel filter
nice troll
>>672887117
Rust comes from the salt on the roads.
>>672887321
this profound post pretty well says it all about the intellectual levels going on in this thread
>>672887321
No shit, but different metal reacts to it at different rates. Chryslers shitty tin foil they make their bodies out of it, does not resist or stand up to it at all.
>>672887117
The materials they is in their alloy wheels are terrible, too
Former tire biter, spent half of that career grinding corrosion from the inner rims of Chryslers.
>>672887582
How does salt get inside a tire? Also, I hear rims are those the tire and wheel? Or can you only buy rims aftermarket?
>>672887582
chrysler dodge jeep are the worst
>>672887887
Moisture is retained in the air inside of the tire, causes corrosion. Flat repairs would come in, if it was a chrysler, 90% chance it was a rim leak
Rims are actually assholes, that's where "rimjob" comes from
>>672887887
He probably means where the bead seats on the rim. Corrosion will creep under from the outside in, working its way between the rubber and the rim.
>>672888246
Oh. Lol
>>672878346
Am i the only one wondering why you have a flosspick jammed in your vent?
>>672888150
Those are all Chrysler products. Chrysler is/was the parent company. Yay Fiat!
>>672888509
i know. that's why i mentioned them.
>>672888431
Because they are fucking expensive. I only throw them away if they have food on them I can't suck off.
>>672878346
If you let it be that low your fuel pump will burn out, the fuel is supposed to cool it
>>672888798
We had an old lady bring a Cherokee in... 4 cans of fix a flat in each tire. It looked like I had murdered swamp thing and dragged his body around the shop.
>>672889438
they won't believe you. they're tards.
>>672888815
WOW THATS JEWISH AS FUCK
>>672889596
yeah i've always heard stories of how shitty that stuff makes your work to do.
>>672889989
If you just fill tires with fix a flat they will never go flat.
>>672878517
Agreed. Learned that the hard way, sucked up a clog
>>672890187
Fix a flat is temporary. If you want a true permanent fix: fill tires with "great stuff" expanding foam
>>672891168
Use a long hose on that shit and it works better than a potato in the tail pipe...
>>672889438
The fuel surrounding the pump is of little significance, the fuel flow inside the pump provides all the cooling it needs. And it really only requires cooling when it's pumping.
If, however, the tank often gets so dry that the pump will start repeatedly gasping air without stalling the engine, then the pump's life will be compromised.
