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Burny for prezidint 2016 #filltheborn lololol i know politicals
>>672052312
>>672052312
He is really trying to get those cuckvotes. Man what a time we live in. Can't we just go back to when things weren't absurdly futuristic hippy shit?
Vermin Supreme will always hold a special place in my grade b roid injected heart
Trump 16
>>672052312
Trump obviously.
Fix the 300 billion dollar trade deficit with China.
>MFW Bernie fags on suicide watch
Bernie Sanders is a person of interest in the death of Oliver Jack Carter Lomas-Davis.
Writing in Sweet Meteor of Death
No one. I refuse to vote for the shiniest piece of shit.
>>672053705
Did Bernie poison the well again?
Emperor Drumpf of course.
>>672053777
well fuck
thanks for dooming us all, anon
Trump, I don't feel like paying for other peoples fuck ups and pointless dreams.
>>672052312
Clinton for sure
>>672054250
He infected the kids wig with SIDS and the kid just died. May have been the Clintons though.
The person who wont turn us into europe
>>672054668
>voting for a traitor
>>672054378
SMOD makes promises he will keep: "You'll be eaten by preppers as you search for food in the sunless deathscape of my impact winter."
Sounds better than Bernie or Hillary or Trump.
>>672053694
>Fix the 300 billion dollar trade deficit with China
>implying he wont double the national debt
>>672052312
Nobody
I don't support bourgeois parliamentarianism
>>672054806
>Trade deficit
>National debt
You're just having fun talking about things you don't know anything about don't you?
>>672054668
I hope you change your vote as quick as Shill-ary changes her stances on everything
Trump for butthurt and because he is the lesser of two evils.
>>672052312
the AfD on March 13.
>>672054867
Sweet dream great leader lenin
>>672052312
Vermin supreme niggas
>>672054867
Sweet dreams lenin
>>672052312
Trump because Im intelligent and not believing that true socialism can come from increasing the power of the federal government.
>>672054790
now there's a candidate I can get behind
All options are fucking cancer 2 BEE honest. Bernie is the only choice that isn't a complete shit tier meme.
>>672054592
KYS
>>672053694
How do you think that he will dix the trade deficit when he's been exporting american manufacturing for years? Obviously us amerifats aren'tgoing to stoo consuming their cheap goods sp they only way to fix trade deficits is to increase production... Also a manipulative small minded bigot like Trump is unelectable when such a large part of the electorate is educated(he appeals to bible thumping rednecks that stay home and fuck goats instead of voting). He a worse grasp of foreign policy than most school children.
>>672056069
Fix* stop*
Nobody. It's going to end up Trump vs Clinton and I hate both of them.
>>672054867
Sweet dreams lenin
>>672052312
Bernie obviously.
Who else /DemsAbroad/ here?
Pic related
>>672054668
honestly, why?
like pretty much every candidate sucks, but she's the most obviously corrupt shill of them all
>>672056069
Wow, I guess know something that everyone taking polls doesn't. You know something that the record number of GOP voters didn't. Can I be your friend?
Bernie is the only one that isnt a part of the big money system and wants to change things, which is why he won't get elected. So clinton, lesser of two morons
Bernie - 2016
>>672056142
>not voting third party
>watching the two fuckups do the same dance in 4 years
Feel the Bern
>>672056577
take a random photo of 100 americans and this is what you get
>>672056448
What does that even mean, i assume you're being fesicious. Obviously the average gop voter and even the average american doesnt know much. Especially when you get all your news from fox or right wing bloggers and radio hosts, get pulled into their conspiracy theories lol. Gop base is all just gullible people
Trump purely for the lulz
>>672056889
Fox is pushing Rubio, you dumb fuck.
>>672052312
Trump
>>672056889
By that i mean they get duped into voting right wing with the same clasic manipulative rhetoric, obama is gonna take our guns or some other kind of fear mongering about terrorism or religious persecution. I mean they elected Bush and now the entire world sees how moronic half of america is
Bernie is a natural leader!
>>672057083
Lol i didnt say they were pushing trump, obviously the party establishment hates him.
Vote cat.
Cat promises individuality for all under cat banner.
Litterboxes in every room
Many jobs will come to human that become permanent cat petters, feeders and player withers.
Only war with dog, cat have many allies.
Snow cats to the north and safari cats to the south.
Biggest dog is size of scooter, safari cat will win.
Cat does not support vegans, vegans will be required to leave united cats of catmerica.
Many feast of bird and rodent. Human never hungry cat is good at food.
Daily 3 hour worship of cat.
Bernie currently has $55,000 in credit card debt. Think about that. This is the guy who says he'll give you lots of free stuff. He can't manage his own budget, let alone a nations.
>>672056069
>fix the trade deficit
Renegotiate the deals so we actually get something out of it besides mass amounts of imports.
>exporting american business
Only way to do business in the US when the corporate tax rate is 39%. All our companies have to outsource work because it's too expensive to do business in America. This is the reason for the decline of small businesses. Trump plans to lower the corporate tax rate to 15% giving us one of the lowest tax rates in the world thus ending the need for businesses to go overseas to dodge taxes.
>removal of corporate inversions
This is another contributing factor to why we don't get as much tax revenue as we should. A corporate inversion is where the accountants move money between overseas accounts to dodge taxes in the US. Thus creating a bottleneck in the American taxation system.
>small minded bigot
>Trump is unelectable
>Bible thumping rednecks
All ad hominem.
>He has a worse grasp of foreign policy than most school children.
Source? The man does business all around the world and is currently sitting at a net worth of 4.5 billion dollars. Since you already mentioned he exports work it means that he has to talk to foreigners in order to do business with them.
Source: http://www.forbes.com/profile/donald-trump/
Also here's our trade deficit with China.
It's over 300 billion dollars and you can look at a bunch of other countries on the same site.
https://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html
Also our total trade deficit for last year was 530 billion dollars not in debt but in trade deficit with other countries on bad deals.
http://www.bea.gov/newsreleases/international/trade/tradnewsrelease.htm
Now is the part where you vote for Trump and admit you can't form an argument based on logic instead of emotion. Because you know my sources come from government entities and well versed news agencies.
>>672055604
True socialism exists, Just watch north korea
>>672057756
HAHAHAHAHHAHA OMG i assume this guy is trolling thats my favorite logic ever
My pecking order:
Bernie
Trump
Hilary
Cruz/Rubio
>>672056577
They're much older than I expected
>>672057756
If this is true, I'm gonna post this in the comments of every damn fb post I see about him.
>>672057812
You make me moist. Make America Great Again
>>672057955
They are ALL losers, looking for a handout.
>>672056799
Fucking liar
>>672054338
underated post
>>672057964
Check it. He's terrible with his finances.
>>672054867
sweet dreams lenin
>>672057812
You just got me wet
>>672058300
#REKT
>>672058106
I could go on for days about his policies against these flimsy libshits. Every argument they make is
muh feels! TRUMPS AN ASSHOLE!
The best meme yet is he's not a successful businessman.
That's funny considering The Trump Organization made 10 billion dollars last year.
http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-worth-more-10-billion-2015-7
We need a businessman to fix this economy NOT another politician to kick the can down the road for the next president to deal with.
>Make me moist
A-are you a grill?
>>672057812
You actually think hes going to lower the tax rate to 15 percent and close tax loopholes lmao? Like every republican canidate has been saying forever but never does? Never actually decreases government spending enough to decrease taxes. Even if i thought that Trump would do anything besides help himself as president im not foolish enough to believe that lower taxes would do anything for us. Obviously many many countries have higher taxes than us and dont have our problems with wage losses poverty and the wealth gap, which lower business taxes and regulations would only exacerbate.. give corpirations more freedom to ass rape us more than they already are. Also "my sources are good" lmao u can find data to support literally anything, every loon has "evidence."
hillary is truly the only one worth voting for. c'mon b/ros make it happen!
>>672057812
This
>>672058888
Quads dont lie
I'm throwing away my vote on Rand Paul. Can't let that nigger sympathizer get in office.
>>672058885
gr8 b8 m8
>>672052312
Closest thing JooBoy has come to a pussy in 30 years
>>672058808
>no sources
>You actually think
>I'm not foolish
>lower taxes don't put more money in the middle classes pockets
>I'm okay with making under 25k/yr. and still paying income tax
>I'm okay with the rich giving less than 1/4 their income in taxes
>I'm okay with corporate inversions
>corporations more freedom to ass rape us
>Implying you don't go to wal-mart every other month and don't buy anything but make everything yourself
>Loon
>Has no evidence of anything you claim
Just admit you can't form an argument without ad hominem and you don't know dick about who creates jobs, how jobs get exported, what a corporate inversion is or how business is even conducted.
I bet you don't even know how money is created or what a FIAT system is god forbid you know dick about the Fed and what centralized banking is.
You're one of the people who can't accept that America is now a Corporatist Representative Democracy.
Here's my favorite part.
>U can find data to support literally anything every loon has "evidence"
So you trust the gov for your welfare, healthcare and safety but you can't trust their data.
You type like a nigger, have the same understanding of government/economics (pick one or both) equivalent to a high school dropout and can't form an eloquent argument based on facts/data because you don't even know what to look for.
No wonder your candidate isn't winning.
>Keep cryin
>>672052312
Trump. Because the USA deserves him after electing Bush and Obama.
>>672060098
Hate on me for ad hominem, then just use ad hominem insteadod refuting anything i say lol. Typical mad conservative hipocracy. Haha i majored in economics and have 3 more years od cpa training on top of that but it's cute that you think you know about finances. Anyway i have to go but i'm going to have to stick with the other 95 percent of the educated world on my left wing fiscal convictions.
>>672060832
And finally yes i do type poorly when having a casual Internet conversation on my phone lmao
>>672060832
Oh shit homie btfo of you so bad you have to say you are "leaving"
>>672055014
You're just having fun talking about things you don't know anything about don't you?
>having fun talking about things you don't know anything about don't you
>don't you
You're just a retard, don't* you?
*aren't
>>672060832
>I majored in economics
>I don't know how taxes and corporations affect people
>I don't know that corporations account for 90% of jobs in the US
>I didn't know companies left the US because of high corporate tax rates
>I can't support any of my claims with facts
>MAJORED IN ECONOMICS
MY FUCKING SIDES!!!!!
Let's see that degree then faggot.
i'm casting my vote for obama, i don't give a fuck if he's not running anymore, he still gets my vote
>>672060832
>>672060971
How did your phone not correct hipocrasy? Do you use iPhone, if so that would explain your invalid hate against Trump.
>>672061296
He did majorly bad in any economics class he's ever attended.
>>672061205
Nah that's my fuck up m8. Didn't feel like editing it.
>doesn't make a counter argument
>Ad Hominem
>The Fallacy Fallacy
Are you shills even trying?
>>672057812
berniefags on suicide watch
>>672061296
Too bad homie "left" i was loving this
>>672054867
I wanna piss on your well preserved corpse lenin
>>672060832
>>672052312
I'm getting tired of all the shilling on this website. It's obvious some of you shills are getting paid to do this. Just like how Bernie Sanders was caught getting his shills to shill on Tinder.
>>672056677
double dubs speak truth
>>672061583
Always
>>672061296
corporations have you right where they want you
afraid and ready to bend over for them while they whine and bully whole economies into sucking their dicks
god its like football teams threatening to go to LA if they don't get a new stadium every year
>>672056798
ha!
>>672061808
>le 1% boogeyman
>>672052312
The cat.
>>672056798
>not knowin the difference between socialism and communism
>>672061741
if you want a shill look no further than Hillary
she is the defacto queen of shills
in fact even Trump is a shill for her and if you don't think for one minute Trump won't let her have the election you are also a shill
>>672055046
Unlike Donald Trump?
>>672057385
Well, I was going with Sanders if I could or Clinton if I had to, but this cat thing sounds pretty good. How do I sign up?
>>672052838
It's just beginning. Regressives will get more dandidates elected in the next few years. Mainstream progressives will get sidelined just like the GOP was by the Tea Party.
>>672061925
if you can't see that they run the government for their own benefit and at the detriment of everyone else you're probably a shillery/trump voter
>>672061644
>Left
Not yet he's back.
>>672061808
>Le corporation boogeyman meme
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/on-small-business/who-actually-creates-jobs-start-ups-small-businesses-or-big-corporations/2013/04/24/d373ef08-ac2b-11e2-a8b9-2a63d75b5459_story.html
So you don't want a 15% corporate tax rate so small businesses can give people jobs again or is it just you didn't know that a company that employs under 500 people is considered a "small business" which is responsible for over 50% of our private sector jobs?
So you're telling me you want small businesses to continue to get hosed on taxes just so they can't expand, ultimately go under and don't employ new people?
Gee Jim that sure sounds like it will work.
>>672052312
TRUMP
I don't live in the US. So the result will be entertaining now matter what.
>>672057947
It's like you threw darts at presidential hopefuls' names in order to create that list.
Donald J. Trump is the next President of the United States of America
>>672062590
http://feelthebern.org/bernie-sanders-on-small-business-and-entrepreneurship/
>>672054867
sweet dreams lenin
>>672053694
I'm voting for sanders because Trups tax plan of
0% -> $0-25,000
10% -> $25,000 - 50,000
20% -> $50,000 - 150,000
25% -> $150,000 and up
will bankrupt this country.
I mean how do people think that lowering taxes on everyone across the board will solve our debt problem. the people at the bottom holding the country up will not need to pay taxes any more and the rich will just pocket the money they save on taxes like they always do and not invest it back into the economy.
>>672063156
rich people aren't like scrooge mcduck anonkun
>>672063156
>hurr how will lowering taxes solve the debt problem durr
Seriously man, try not to go full retard.
is anyone here really voting trump and not trolling? could you explain why? pls, honestly
>>672056889
I'm guessing your a Eurocuck? Literally the toilet paper of the world, and deserves every wipe across the ass they get. Protip, you left out Cheney Reagan Eisenhower. Might as well throw in Ulysses Grant so you sound even more ridiculous.
>>672063388
>>672063354
but we have lowered taxes and it has never worked when will you conservatives learn that trickle down economics is a meme
>>672063406
Basically, they have money and don't want to give it away.
>>672063354
also remember when we bailed out the big banks what did all the CEOs do they gave themselves pay raises just for the luls
>>672063406
Daily reminder if you aren't voting Libertarian, you're a piece of shit that simply wants to vote for someone you think "will" win instead of who "should" win.
>>672063637
The tax cuts are not supposed to take care of the debt broski. Those two things are com0letely umrelated.
>>672063094
BUSINESSES NEED MORE LOANS INSTEAD OF A HEALTHY COMPETITIVE MARKET TO MAKE MONEY!
TAXES DON'T GENERATE REVENUE FOR THE MIDDLE CLASS!
That's you.
>>672063156
>The rich will just pocket the money they save on taxes
>Save on taxes
1/4 their income (25%) on taxes alone. Flat. No loopholes. No tax dodges. No corporate inversions. No off shore hedge funds. No tax breaks for hedge fund managers.
You couldn't know less about economics please don't vote this season.
>>672063406
See
>>672062590
>>672058739
>>672057812
Just to name a few. I can literally knee jerk reaction my reasoning in the face of opposition who thinks they know snakes from dildos about Business, Economics or Politics.
It's pretty easy actually. Liberals breakdown when given hard evidence.
>>672064129
I see you're a moron
opinions discarded
>>672064004
how can a country pay off its debt if it has no revenue.
wtf what is trumps plan to lower the deficit. if he is going to lower taxes on everyone that means the gov will be taking in less revenue.
how is trump going to pay for bombings in the middle east.
>>672064129
>liberals break down when given hard evidence
>>672064428
>Calls him a name and runs away
Bernie because he is the only reasonable choice, hillary is a criminal and there is no such thing as a good conservative.
>>672064129
medium to large CO pay more than 25% right now only mega corporations pay less than that at like 15% I think you don't understand where most of our revenue comes form
>>672063637
>It has never worked
Almost every president that has made tax cuts would disagree with you.
If you majored in economics this would be 101 for you.
Lower taxes allows the lower class to keep more money in their pockets. This money is spent paying off rent, utilities, mortgages etc. which is mostly owned by the wealthy elites.
By allowing more Americans to keep their money they're merely recirculating it back into the economy by paying off what they owe already.
Once the lower class can have more money to live on they have the opportunity to go to school, get better jobs and enter the middle class thus allowing them to pay their due tax without the worry of the IRS coming and taking their stuff.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10000872396390443684104578066611560765402
Any time. Any place faggot I'll debate until I can't type anymore because I know every time you can't form a valid argument.
>>672064553
Income tax is not nor should it be the life blood of the government. The issue with the debt is not the rax rate, it's the speed at which our superiors swipe their credit card.
>>672052312
I would have wanted Rubio to win tbh especially after I watched him destroy donald cum
What is trumps plane to stop high frequency trading what will he do about the banks that are to big to fail what will trump do when china collapses and calls in our debt
>>672064890
sure let me call up JW Bush and ask him how that $1.4 trillion deficit went
>>672064428
See >>672064633
>>672064811
I don't think you understand economics at all.
>Mega corporations pay 15%
You're literally retarded.
http://www.investopedia.com/articles/investing/051614/do-us-high-corporate-tax-rates-hurt-americans.asp
http://www.forbes.com/sites/taxanalysts/2015/03/25/the-truth-about-corporate-tax-rates/#6894e65c20a5
2 sources. To your none.
Keep it coming I'm diamonds right now.
This is just the preview of what Trump will do to Hillary.
>>672064890
also sanders plan would not raise taxes on anyone raking in $250,000 or less so the working class would be fine.
>>672056677
and what would a bankrupt realestate casino mobster poster fag do for the economy? fucking retard.
>>672065002
which is easier to change
spending habits for millions of Americans
or
the general tax rate that every citizen must comply with
>>672065480
>>672065405
Yet he goes and says this
http://time.com/4183856/bernie-sanders-middle-class-taxes-health-care/
Stay uninformed
>>672062017
>not knowin the difference between socialism and communism
What's Bernie's plan for the evil corporations when they leave the country because they don't want to pay higher taxes? Force them to stay?
>>672065292
this only happens because of bad trade deals pushed by the 1% like TPP and NAFTA if we didnt make shitty deals we would be well off this is one thing that trump has going for him but sanders is also on the right side
>>672065629
C). The spending habits of the federal government that can be changed on an annual basis for the most part.
>>672065776
raising annual tax but removing a monthly deductible and gaining the right to negotiate health care stop only giving half the story we still end up saving $$$
>>672065950
good luck with that the conservative congress is pro military and money
>>672063081
typical inbred piece of shit felon that cant vote.
>>672066112
So you want to treat the symptom instead of the problem by voting Bernie? Wew lad u rly got me
>>672065987
Yes but you said if i was lower than 250000 he wouldnt raise taxes. That is a lie. You can feed me the bullshit that it will save me money, but the original point is he will raise taxes
>>672065235
>JW BUSH
MY FUCKING SIDES!!
>Stop high frequency trading
Why?
>banks that are too big to fail
Most likely nothing since America CHOSE years ago to institute centralized banking. The only real way to stop it is for America to print their own money again. JFK tried that and I think a week later he had a little accident in Houston.
>When china collapses
Laugh full heartily because we could manufacture the same goods here for half the price under the Trump administration. Plus moving business back to America creates more jobs making the same shit we're asking China to make anyways.
>Except making it in America doesn't cost 300 billion dollars a year.
>>672065405
>tax the rich to pay for welfare programs
>make the inheritance tax higher
>18 trillion dollars of additional spending
http://www.wsj.com/articles/price-tag-of-bernie-sanders-proposals-18-trillion-1442271511
There's a reason your candidate is pretty much out of the running give it up already.
>>672065796
>bad trade deals
Exactly. Renegotiate those trade deals maybe instead of just taxing the rich? Seems a lot more cost effective.
>Sanders
It's. OVER. Give it a rest and learn about another candidate.
>>672066370
Also source for taxing the rich.
>http://money.cnn.com/2015/10/13/news/economy/taxing-the-rich-will-not-curb-inequality/
It doesn't work. It will never work to tax the rich just because they're rich.
>>672052312
Since Ben Carson is dropping out I'm voting for Vermin Supreme. Hillary vs Trump is the worst possible outcome, and it looks like it's what's gonna happen.
>>672066295
Bernie will work on getting money out of politics so special interest will not be able to buy elections
>>672066370
>Why?
because it's not real there is no real value in it and it is bad practice
>Laugh full heartily because we could manufacture the same goods here for half the price under the Trump administration. Plus moving business back to America creates more jobs making the same shit we're asking China to make anyways.
lol good luck with your 2$ min wage what is stopping India from taking china place.
>Exactly. Renegotiate those trade deals maybe instead of just taxing the rich? Seems a lot more cost effective.
sanders will renegotiate hes a jew what do you think they do all the time so will trump this is why i give them both credit on this subject
and as for the 18 trill price tag that is with drug prices as they are now sanders would work on getting us negotiating powers like they do in every other country
Anyone who is not a Democrat or Republican. Even though most people are going to vote for them anyway, for whatever reason. Just, fuck. Enough is enough, you know? I'm just tired of watching the same train wreck, over and over.
Here's your free stuff, liberals.
>>672066295
>vote bern
>vote out conservative congress
???
things get done
-finances are brought back to the US from their tax havens
-corporations and scumfucks who played our economy get the bitch slap
-money goes to educating citizens
-monopolies are busted and internet stays free
-cost of services plummet and quality improves since the guv gets off its ass and regulates
-educated citizens leads to less violent crime and better economic choices
-the "establishment" flips out and tries to assassinate bern
-a martyr is born
>>672052312
STAND WITH RAND!
PRESIDENT PAUL 2016!
END THE FUCKING FED!!
>>672054668
>>672067219
That's a very nice way to say that you had nothing to add to my comment. I feel like you are just saying something extremely pro Bernie just because you saw I opposed him, otherwise I fo not know how special interests make conservatives so happy about spending money on the military.
>>672067771
>>672061205
>>672052312
I'm not american so i will lay here and watch your next president pushing his freedom penis into your free anus
Maybe this time osama bin isis menage to crash a plane into the statue of liberty, accidentally resulting in your gov. spying you even more kek
>>672067501
You see, the whole
>vote bern
is what you kids are focusing on, rather than the
>vote out conservative congress
If you want a big change then Bernie is not the focal point.
Sanders is the only principled candidate running right now.
>>672052312
Nobody is voting for this faggot, not even the niggers. Give it up faggots.
>>672068057
>>672067219
>because it's not real
Neither is American money but I don't see you complaining about new government bonds being sold.
>$2 minimum wage
The fuck are you on about?
>what is to stop India from taking China's place
Seriously do you have a point to this or are you just going to blurt out political obscenities all night?
>bringing up the pharmaceutical industry
I don't know man I really like having 6 of the 10 largest companies in the US. That's tons of tax revenue and tons of generated revenue for the US economy if other countries need our meds.
You ever think prices are high because we export our pharmaceuticals and make about 6 billion dollars/yr. doing so?
No of course not.
http://www.who.int/trade/glossary/story073/en/
Seriously Berniefags are literally pathetic on how versed they are on what they talk about. I'm not holding it against you just do some research outside the norm of "Muh corporations are evil".
Honestly this thread is getting a little tiresome. One can only win so much.
>Unless Trump is president.
>>672052312
>>672068053
Bern is only one part of a 100 point plan
but if someone other than Bern is voted in then nothing gets done for another 4 years
>>672067813
>Special interests spend money on the military
>>672052312
no one I'm jumping ship before the dollar crashes. Not going to have all my savings devalue by up to 50%. Fuck this horrible corrupt debtor state we call the US.
Trump is an authoritarian who doesn't care for the establishment.
"Shit. I know shit's bad right now, with all that starving bullshit, and the dust storms, and we are running out of french fries and burrito coverings. But I got a solution."
>>672068150
conservacucks want to lower min wage because they think people aren't poor enough
>>672068305
Good, get out.
trump's deregulation policies will be the end of america
>>672067813
>special interests make conservatives so happy about spending money on the military.
literally the other way around. They're the ones funding the politicians who want to go to war, so the military buys their shit meaning a net gain for them.
>>672068243
In the time I've been alive I've never seen a candidate self fund and I've watched 5 presidents come and go.
Bernie got caught with SUPERPACS and funneling campaign funds to family and friends.
http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/breaking-bernie-sanders-caught-funneling-money-to/
Trump has only spent 25 million on his campaign with massive amounts of support coming from it.
Sanders is the same bullshit we've seen time and time again. At least Trump won't owe the private interest groups for his presidency allowing him to actually propose change without fear of losing money.
>>672068585
>Anything I don't agree with is bait.
>>672068932
>>672067813
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>>672068150
why would renegotiating prices drive them to move out of the US we are there biggest consumer why would the want to pay import taxes. you make thees comments like a small dip in profit would cause them moving to another country when them moving would cost them a whole lot more than if they just gave us fair prices
>>672068503
>we don't need to solve unemployment we need to give them more money
This doesn't solve the problem. The problem is all the work is leaving America. When Americans can't work there's no point to minimum wage increases.
That's like filling a cup with motor oil hoping that eventually you'll have clean water at the bottom by pushing the water out of the glass.
>>672068718
Trump owns a billion dollar business he won't change anything but to benefit himself
thats if he even wants to win and doesnt want to give it to Shillery
>>672068718
>he is part of private interest groups
>it's okay because he's upfront about it
>>672068718
This guy gets it.
>>672055995
Found the fuck up with pointless dreams.
>>672069033
>gave us fair prices
The market decides what the price is. Due to outside factors such as corporate tax rates and inflation. Our market is suffering because we're so dependent on imports instead of exports.
To keep it simple if the US government can control it's debt then it can control inflation of the prices of goods. Without solving the problem of trade deficit we can't solve the problem of debt and therefore can't solve inflation.
Every time you watch the debt clock go up that's another bond that's being sold by the American government to devalue their currency. If America stops devaluing its currency then we'll see prices drop to reasonable amounts.
Inflation is the reason for high prices in America today. Here's some literature on the costs of inflation. After reading it I think you'll agree that inflation is the major killer in the American market today.
Good question though.
http://www.economicshelp.org/macroeconomics/inflation/costs-inflation/
>>672069089
>He won't change anything but to benefit himself
Can you source that instead of just using the general libshit argument of "I KNOW BECAUSE I JUST KNOW!".
>>672069086
it's to keep the wage up to the cost of living what part of this aren't you getting? Housing and utility prices go up, dollar value goes down, wage does not increase. This means the majority of this country that works in the service industry has less and less expendable income. Meaning the capital pool shrinks and business go to greener pastures as it's been doing. Only way to keep business here is make sure there's still consumers to profit off of.
>>672052312
Bernie, then whoever the dems put forward
>>672069001
>Claiming things are bait is the only form of human social interaction that my autistic mind can comprehend.
>>672069119
Trump is a private interest group. He funded democrats in the 80's.
I'd rather have a man who can buy private sectors instead of one that's bought by private sectors.
>>672052312
Hillary. The next POTUS.
>>672070256
But he's gone bankrupt so many times that he CAN be bought.. at the right time.
>>672067988
But....Freedumbs!
>>672070157
All of what you just said can be easily explained with inflation of currency and centralized banking. If you're going to point fingers at least point them at the right people.
Here's a nice short video on your exact problem and why it's here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFDe5kUUyT0&index=11&list=WL
Once you understand that it's at the fault of the Federal Reserve and centralized banking you feel a little silly wanting bigger government.
>>672070060
so lowering wages across the board except for certain execs will somehow uninflate our currency?
>>672054867
sweet dreams lenin
>>672070256
>I don't want a plutocrat
>I want a proud plutocrat
how is that better?
Adolf Trumpf
>>672070394
Filing for bankruptcy is actually a very smart move in the business world and is very common. He has also only declared Chapter 11 which is a restructure of the businesses financial plan (he still had to pay a lot to file and recover) and has never I repeat NEVER declared Chapter 13 which is what most people think of when they hear "bankruptcy".
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/sep/21/carly-fiorina/trumps-four-bankruptcies/
>donald trumps bankruptcies
Chapter 11 and Chapter 13
>http://www.ms-bankruptcy.com/bankruptcy-info/differences
>Been bankrupt so many times
4 Chapter 11's is hardly something to get all buttblasted over.
>I'm still diamonds over here
>>672070575
the federal reserve is independent it's not part of "muh bigger government" it's literally a private interest group. It is for all intents and purposes a rogue agency.
>>672052312
>implying voting makes any fucking difference you stupid shit bag
>>672070630
Source? He doesn't want to even lower the minimum wage. He literally wants to keep it the same.
http://money.cnn.com/2015/12/28/news/economy/trump-wages/
You obviously don't listen/research him whatsoever. Maybe you should stop memeing.
>>672071119
I think what they're going for is that Trump cannot bankrupt our country for profit like he has his businesses. But its likely that he will try to emulate what happened in 2006.
>>672071217
Yes exactly right on point.
Except that the US mint is at the mercy of the Federal Reserve when printing money. The FED can tell the US mint to print however much money they want thus devaluing our currency even more and the US mint is a part of the "bigger government" as you would put it.
What's your point?
>>672071342
he literally said before that "wages are too high"
then he goes back on it
>>672071701
just because the government pays for the printer does not mean they're in charge of it. The federal reserve does not answer to any branch of government.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=722VZNSENtg
>>672071119
I would vote you for president, anon-kun <3
>>672059239
Randy Man all day son.
ill just leave this here
>>672071429
>Bankrupt an entire country
Like he even would have the power as president to do this given how corporations still operate in a "free market". In order to bankrupt the whole country he would have to essentially strip the private sector of all power by regulating every last piece of it to do what the government says which Congress would never let pass.
Besides declaring bankruptcy to keep a business from going under is a lot different than a Chapter 13 on a whole country.
Moot point in all honesty.
>>672071868
"We have to keep it the way it is."--Donald J. Trump.
He said it literally right after saying wages were too high and in context he was talking about hedge fund managers which he outlines very nicely in his positions.
Grasping at straws there champ? Maybe you should get off your phone and pay attention in class I'm sure your Civil Liberties teacher is very upset with you right now.
>>672072424
>Just because the US mint is owned by the government, the machine is owned by the government, the plates are manufactured by the government and print all American money doesn't mean they're with the government
Really?
We all know the FED doesn't answer to a government entity and that's the problem. They have full control over how much money is printed BY the government.
The whole Federal Reserve should've been abolished under the Kennedy administration but he go lead poisoning before the bill for America to be independently printing money without the need for the Federal Reserve passed.
This is Econ. 101 and high school history come on man.
>>672072634
You're not the first person to say that baka-senpai but it's really not that hard to do what I do just use some google.
Y-you too....
>>672073008
oh you're a conspiracy nut, should have known.
Bernie is a greedy jew trying to steal your money
>>672070175
Bernie is a dirty jew
>>672073707
gee I wonder why
its not like he's not already a billionaire and doesn't take money from interest groups like every single other candidate
>>672073008
>>672073202
>>672071119
>>672066370
>>672064890
I love you Anon, I have never heard before of someone furiously anal raping liberals with facts
>>672053705
That baby is LOW ENERGY
>>672073008
I like you. Next time you explain this to the masses, you might want to point out Bill Gates filed for the same.
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSL2N0LH14M20140212
Thank you for being here, anon-kun
>>672054592
You dont want to pay for this woman to have 8 years of college majoring in womans studies?
>>672073510
Conspiracy? Nah m8 I just gave the facts Executive order 11110 was an actual order that Kennedy passed but was repealed after his death by president Reagan as part of cleaning up the executive orders.
These are facts that Kennedy wanted America to print it's own money.
Whether he was shot BECAUSE of it I don't know and will never know.
Jump the gun much?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_11110
>>672074001
supporting a cuck who is only running to disrupt the Reps and ensure Clinton the presidency
>>672073202
Yeah, but you turn Google into a 20 inch dildo to anally annihilate retards. You're my hero <3
>>672056281
Bernie sucks
He is a greedy jew
>>672074001
Isn't that how a debate is supposed to be or did I fuck up by not adding enough feels and blatant lies?
>>672074133
Thanks for the literature anon nice find I didn't even know BG filed for bankruptcy.
Let's make make America great again anons. We're doing it right now.
>>672074475
>You're my hero <3
While I appreciate the sentiment I'm no hero. Just an honest hard working American sick of liberals bringing feels to debates.
You're the real hero anon-kun <3
>>672074320
Lol, didnt one of your fellow Cuckie sanders call out the only intelligent person ITT a conspiracy nut?
>>672057210
>>672074217
>>672052312
I'm not. My intention is to leave the country for good, regardless of who 'wins' the election.
>>672074320
Can you source that?
>>672074670
Bern is a Jew who fights the banks
bern could be taking money from teleconglomerates to push their agendas but he isn't
bern could be shit flinging the other candidates at every speech but he talks about his platform instead
>>672068057
Sanders is a lier all jews are liers
>>672075316
I can use google too
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/donald-trump-donations-democrats-hillary-clinton-119071
http://time.com/3962799/donald-trump-hillary-clinton/
http://www.usapoliticstoday.com/trump-endorses-hillary-clinton/
http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/09/politics/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-conspiracy/
>>672074734
That's it, you're my write in. For the people, by the people, Google-kun.
>>672052312
Macri
>>672075371
That's because he knows that
>why take money from only a few people of a few certain banks...
>when you can take money from everyone in the entire country
>>672064724
No such thing as a honest jew
>>672075068
You need help moving bruv?
We'll need hard workers to build the wall.
By the by our trade deficit with Mexico alone could pay for the 9 billion dollar wall with 49 billion left over to paint the white house gold and paint an American flag mural running the span of said wall on Mexico's side.
https://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c2010.html
>>672075910
The 'help' I need is mostly administrative, dealing with paperwork and securing a position as far away from the U.S. as possible, INSURING I won't be returning. Considering North Korea, but prefer Japan or the PRC.
After that, idgaf what goes on here.
>>672075802
#4 just the Tip
>>672054867
/thread
>>672075910
>>672076162
Also, wouldn't it just be cheaper (and faster) to just establish a Korean-style DMZ along the border? I mean you know...instead of a literal wall.
>this is OC
>>672075692
Just wait 10 years I'll be running.
I'll make Larry Page my VP.
>>672076162
Good luck to you anon. I'm sure that NK will appreciate you complaining about their leaders.
>>672076162
>Considering North Korea
Troll or just retarded?
>>672074935
Lol 10/10 win
Trump 2016
>>672054867
>too soon
>>672076412
>implying I'd be complaining
>>672076470
Neither. Have been as close as the DMZ from the South side, as seen here>>672076404
where I was able to look clearly into Kaesong.
Speaking of Kaesong...
ITT Trump wins another
>inb4 deleted
>>672076404
No. Because it sends the wrong message that we're at war with our neighbors to the south. It would require a large amount of military presence, fortifications and surveillance equipment. Not cost effective nor effective at all considering that we would have to spend insane amounts to keep the DMZ together.
Besides walls work.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel%E2%80%93Egypt_barrier
>While 9,570 citizens of various African countries entered Israel illegally in the first half of 2012, only 34 did the same in the first six months of 2013, after construction of the main section of the barrier was completed.
>>672076162
Just stay out of Canada buddy we don't need your kind here guy.
>>672076812
I'm not your buddy, friend.
>>672076805
But you want to make sure the 'undesirables' don't/can't cross over, right? It would be pretty hard to do, what with barbed wire, minefields, dogs, and hardened troops (or contractors) ready to take a life at the drop of a hat. At least Un doesn't hesitate; stop being weak.
>>672076812
Psh...Canada. Although I did like Degrassi.
>>672052312
I'm voting for Sanders.
>>672077210
North Korea is more concerned with keeping its citizens in and outside information out.
>>672075659
Other Anon here. I'm not too huge into politics, so I might be out of my league here, but as an average American I don't necessarily see a problem with Trump formerly supporting Democrats in general, or even Hillary specifically. Two candidates on opposite sides of the race being friends from the same social circles doesn't turn them into traitors. Your first article even states that Trump funded Clinton due to Clinton's policies helping Trump out, and that Trump has exclusively supported Republicans since the 2012 cycle.
>>672077401
America can do the opposite. If people want to leave, let them, but make it near impossible for anyone (especially those pesky immigints) to get in.
>>672052312
Trump is the only answer
They are all separatists except for Kasich. Rand Paul was the best canidate then he dropped out.
>>672077543
>Trump has exclusively supported Republicans since the 2012 cycle.
You mean after he ran for the Republican nomination for president?
Trump's a dumbass that has no idea what he's talking about. He's failed to ever give a real answer at a debate instead just shooting off with whatever he thinks the audience will eat up. Just look at when he was asked about the Nuclear triad and he had no idea what the fuck it was and tried to Palin his way through a non-answer.
>>672077210
Don't get me wrong it's not that I don't agree that mines, dogs and troops wouldn't work but it's bad for public image. It makes you look like you don't care for human life and the UN would be up our ass in a second. North Korea gets away with it because they have active conflicts along the DMZ (in the form of dick waving) and they disregard what the UN tells them.
We want something that will be able to have seismograph equipment put in, external surveillance and tall enough to not be jumped over (fuck fences).
It's not something I'm expecting Trump to deliver on but if he does that's awesome.
My problem is the legality with the UN especially since Israel already has problems with theirs.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_West_Bank_barrier
>>672053694
>thinks donald trump can handle something like that
the man has literally zero political experience. he wasnt a mayor, governor, senator, nothing. hes some fucking goofball who is going for the retard votes and unfortunately this country is full of them. if he actually wins its going to be embarrassing as fuck.
>>672077543
There's a good chance Trump legitimately doesn't want the presidency and is merely helping Shillery get in. Self-funding would help stifle inevitable support base alienation should it be found out to be true so he doesn't lose a chunk of investors over their lost money.
In the end it goes back to 2 sides of the same coin and either in presidency will mean high earners run politics for the foreseeable future in their private interests.
Pt 1
>>672064633
Hard evidence is not "a flat tax will fix everything."
Do you even know what evidence is, dipshit?
Pt 2
Pt 3
>>672075659
>Mad because Trump is a G and wants to bang Hilldogs snatch
>Mad because once upon a time he was a democrat
>once again mad because he supported a democrat before running
>conspiracy theory that Trump is a Clinton plant
You still didn't provide a source to support your claim. Just connecting dots where none exist because before he ran he supported Hillary.
So if I support Trump then that means I'm a Clinton plant?
I never even knew.
Come on anon try harder than that.
Pt 4
>>672078039
>human life
>public image
This will be Trump's America. He doesn't care about the people, he just says what they want to hear; what actual political experience or even knowledge does Trump possess? To me, clearly not enough to run the country (unless it's straight into the ground). He's a businessman, yes, but being a 'shark' in the business-world isn't the same as being a level-headed president with good character. I mean, just listen to the way he talks and the things he actually says; too much of a loose cannon. And Hillary? Well, she's an example of everything wrong with the Democratic Party. Sanders is alright, but I don't honestly see him winning.
In any case, I strongly believe Trump would downplay the 'wall' thing, and install a DMZ instead once he thinks about it more. It'd make more sense for what he's proposing, and it's obvious he doesn't give two squirts of piss about America's image to the UN or anyone else, just as he doesn't care what others think of him.
As I said before though, I'm gone regardless.
Pt 5
>>672078559
theres a direct correlation between the amount of times someone says mad and how much of a dumb fuck they are.
>>672078151
He's not even really self-funding like he claims.
He *loaned* his campaign the money. Which means after all is said and done he can have his fucking campaign funds pay him back. He's actually *spent* almost nothing on his campaign.
This way he gets to pretend he's spending his own money while he really isn't.
Pt 6
>>672056798
>fsm
God fucking dammit, he's become reddit: the candidate
Pt 7 (final)
>>672052312
No one.. Ain't allowed to vote..
>>672078559
>So if I support Trump then that means I'm a Clinton plant?
No it means you're a moron that supports a guy that is not qualified to be president by any stretch of the imagination. A guy whose entire campaign is basically "I'm rich, vote for me."
>>672078815
Fuck you, you ignorant piece of shit.
>>672076412
Well, you have at least half of the basement dwelling NEET vote. +1 from me.
