Could US ground troops defeat ISIS?
Opinions fuckers.
US ground troops can defeat any other ground troops in the world.
>>672016771
Yes but it's bad for business
ISIS has no navy, no air force, no missiles – none of the truly destructive power of modern militaries. They are a ragtag group of apocalyptic militants that is barely holding onto power at its core and is armed with small arms and homemade low-yield explosives.
Copypasta.
>>672016771
No
Isis is already in the UK, US. Posing as legitimate civilians.
>>672017691
You shouldnt say the truth out loud like that
>>672016771
ISIS is an idea, and ideas are bulletproof.
>>672016771
Given the ability without rules of engagement and loac, definitely.
>>672016771
No one is even asking that idiotic question except for faggots like you anon. The US military is the greatest piece of military might the world has ever known. Every single member of ISIS put together couldn't even fill a baseball stadium
>>672017947
V for Vendetta, right ? kek
>>672017947
Stfu newfag
Great business with a lot of civilians as an excuse. Like if the would care for them.
ISIS operatives are working hard to find American targets they can strike, but there aren’t many suitable sites within reach. Deploying U.S. troops nearby would make their task much easier. In 1983, the Reagan Administration sent troops to join a multinational peacekeeping force in Lebanon; on October 23, suicide bombers attacked the sites where U.S. and French forces were quartered near Beirut. Over 300 were killed, including 220 marines. It was the worst one-day death toll the U.S. military had suffered since the Tet Offensive in Vietnam. The international peacekeeping force was soon withdrawn, handing a major victory to jihadist forces (probably backed by Iran). So sending U.S. ground forces to the area, especially in small and vulnerable contingents, is asking for trouble.
Im a fag COPYPASTA.
>>672016771
True allies don't fight with each other
>>672017569
This USA has the strongest and most well funded military ever
Not being afraid to blow yourself up in the name of "GOD" we're fucked.
>>672016771
You cannot destroy an ideology.
/thread
>>672016771
It would take a couple of drunk marines and a plane
>>672018373
We're also not afraid to blow them up in the name of god
No because they won't be an army. If I've day magically every Isis "soldier" had a uniform glued to their body so we could tell who they are it roiled be no contest. But like the fucking cowardly little rats they are, they hide when faced with a competent armed force. And liberals won't stop whining if we just bomb the hovels that they lived in because "muh women and children"
>>672018493
You mean except for the ideologies that have been destroyed in the past, right?
Ground troops were humiliated by the Vietnamese (These fuckers are like 1.60 meters tall, c'mon!)
I think it might work if you wipe the place with the air force
The bottom line is that injecting U.S. ground forces into the fight against ISIS is an invitation to further military fiascos in the Middle East of the sort that Washington has experienced all too frequently in recent years. Before resorting to that very risky strategy, the Obama Administration should try to use its air power more forcefully, expand military aid to indigenous forces motivated to challenge ISIS, and exploit its extraordinary intelligence network to deprive the jihadists of financing. Sending U.S. troops should only be a desperate last resort, undertaken in full recognition that if we again go there, the terrorists likely will come here.
>of fucking course.
The United states military is the greatest fighting force the world has ever seen
We definitely could but something else worst would probably replace them.
>>672016771
Yes if they were allowed to but
No because politics also ISIS is already in the United States.
>>672018299
Didn't help in Iraq or Afganistan or Veitnam or Korea
>>672018664
such as what???
>>672017744
They have missiles man, they have quite a bit of military hardware from battle theyve won.
>>672016771
No, ISIS is a result of a mindset, that mindset is partially borne from living in a warzone.
Ground troops could definitely take some land and destroy some HQ's, but war won't un-ISIS ISIS.
>>672018166
you don't belong to this place.
>>672016771
Nah just think of we let ISIS do their thing in 30 years we will have a second Saudi Arabia that we can sell billions of dollars worth of weapons to and buy oil from instead of buying that dirty oil from our neighbors to the north.
>mmeeeeuurica
>>672019049
Here's a pretty major one you may have heard of.
>>672016771
Let's not find out, we created them by sending ground troops to Iraq for so long, so let's not make shit worse. Besides, that's what they want, that's why they keep egging us on. If we send in ground troops, that's free recruitment for their holy war.
>>672019322
Your logic is sound
>>672018933
Iraq and korea are just terrorists not unified and vietnamn was just policing not a war not to mention South Korea eventually won
>>672018754
remember vietnam ?
>>672019523
>South Korea ended in a ceasefire = no win.
>USA sold weapons to Saddam to fight Iran
>Iraq invaded Kuwait murica didn't like that due to cheap oil
>Vietnam is called a war in literally every history book.
>>672019523
>vietnam was not a war
>i won the debate in my head and what the whole world think of it has no importance
>i will be blind to the truth just to be right
>>672019391
...you have no idea what you're talking about. The sudden WITHDRAWAL of US troops is what allowed Shia oppression to flourish, which is what fed the movement that would eventually become the Islamic State.
Al Qaeda in Iraq was crushed.
>>672017569
Unless you're fighting an asymmetrical force like DAESH.
If you don't completely eradicate the sand-nigger species and there's even just one person left (who will probably be american-born) who waves a black flag, you will have lost.
Why do Americans start wars these days they full well know they can't win?
2 strong high school boys have darn good sex
>>672019523
If the USA can't defeat terrorist, which means small force with relatively small fundings compared to a country, what would it be if they had to fight a real war ? Oh right they lost all of them.
>>672019863
$hekels and to destabilize the region.
Wars aren't won like your childlike opinion of how they should be won, anon.
>>672019765
>>USA sold weapons to Saddam to fight Iran
Really? Like what?
Their Migs? Kalshnikovs? BMPs? T-72s? Hinds?
Oh, wait. Those are all Russian weapons. Huh.
>>672019998
Not the guy you responded to, but it's a matter of public record. Took place during the Iran-Iraq War.
>>672019826
>Al Qaeda in Iraq was crushed
Tfw Americlaps truly believe that, like the brand name of sandniggersim even matters.
As long as America keeps involving themselves in countries they have no business being in, the will be "terrorism".
>>672019998
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_support_for_Iraq_during_the_Iran–Iraq_war
>Read, be smart
>>672019826
Dude. Al Quaeda is the arch-enemy of Daesh as much as the USA. Heard of what medias call Al-Nosra, always fighting with Daesh ? Do you know what Al-Nosra is ?
>>672018299
>well funded
Correct.
>Strongest.
Nah.
>>672019826
There were around 700,000 civilian casualties in the Iraq war. When you destroy someone's home and kill their family and friends, what do you think they do? They join the organization that fights the people who did it. That's why ISIS rose i the first place, but yes, when we left it let them grow even more. Now they want a holy war. It's like if you went and beat up somebody and got bored and went about your business. The person you beat up wont necessarily forget about it, they may come after you. That's what ISIS is doing, they arent done fighting even though we are, and theyre trying to force us to fight. If we do, they can show every Muslim in the world what the evil americans are doing to them and call them to help their muslim brothers and sisters. We created a giant clusterfuck.
>>672017744
>ISIS has no navy, no air force
>>672017744
>no missiles
>>672019998
Not only did they sold weapons but the CIA trained the talibans against URSS... yeah, no way learning those radical dark age minded muslims how to fight the modern way is going to backfire.
>>672019819
Thank you the only person here who knows anything
>>672017569
Laughingricefarmer.jpeg
>>672019382
>rekt
>>672020502
Thats a shit missle which could go 100 miles max
>>672019819
Actually he's right, Vietnam was a police action, not an actual war.
>>672020425
>We
Please. Your politicians did it for money and power. I keep believing not every american is evil or retarded.
>>672020431
You need to know how to pilot this though.
>>672020713
Im not saying they didnt
>>672020431
>ISIS Fighterjet
You mean
>Aim-9's smooth fuccboi
>>672020512
Hmm when did this happen in the past only to backfire?!??
>Japan
>Afghanistan
>Iraq
>"Moderate" Lybian Rebels
>>672020711
Define "police action" and "war".
>>672020783
I'm saying it's not you.
>>672020808
yeah that's exactly the point
>>672020858
Goggle that shit. It's a technicality, but it's true.
>>672020711
Hmmm by police action do you mean "Proxy War against the USSR"
>>672017744
>none of the truly destructive power of modern militaries
>>672020711
Thanks anon i hate how everyone thinks they know everything at least half kf 4chan is a highschool drop out
>>672020680
says the rocket scientist
>>672020923
Really bro? You're going to be that petty? We, as a country, not specifically every american.
>>672020990
No. You have to explain it by yourself. It's important for the debate, or you'll never realize you're wrong in the eventual case you are. Also you're the one defending a thesis going against the doxa.
>>672021009
Weird are those Tanks supplied to the Iraqi army post Saddam??? Who were those supplied by???
>>672019995
This thread was about "who would win in a ground battle", not "what is the definition of war?"
The answer to both questions is 100 Brock Lesnars and 10 silverback gorillas.
>>672020425
>Muh ISIS
>Literally this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbIGuLXCziU
We've found a way to monetize killing. They're just throwing dollars at us.
>Us as in the politicians, the politicians as in the corporations, the corporations as in the US government's key holder
>pic related it's raytheon
>>672021138
Police action in military/security studies and international relations is a euphemism for a military action undertaken without a formal declaration of war.
There you go you lazy fuck
>>672020582
>kek
>>672016771
No.
Liberal policies in the Geneva convention and the US Governement doesn't allow for wars to be won anymore.
They only allow for wars to continue on and on forever. The only hope for the world now is for a nuclear holocaust of every continent on earth.
Liberalism has fucking destroyed this world.
>>672021138
Listen kid its policing because we never declared war in vietnam we were just there
>>672019657
how many gooks were killed compared to american forces during that??
>>672021158
They look like a mix of surplus chinese and russian tanks.
>>672021159
ISIS would win because they don't have CNN following their troops and blasting the soliders for not being pro-Gay, pro-environment, not anti-Canada oil.
>>672021292
>without a formal declaration of war
So the difference is it's without a formal declaration ?
So it's a war without a formal declaration ?
So it's a war.
That's why I wanted you to explain.
>>672020425
finally someone who understands
>>672021114
eh. I'm 100% with you on everything else. That explained well the situation.
>>672021522
Pretty much, like I said, a technicality.
>>672021522
So when Japan bombed Pearl Harbor in a sneak attack was that just a police action because a war wasn't formally declared??
>>672021448
This
Plus they have no rules of engagement
If we're gonna wipe em out the American public can't know when or how.
>>672021343
>it's policing because we never declared war
Today, I learned on /b/ that Pearl Harbor wasn't an act of war. Just policing.
>>672021704
Are you this retarded?
>>672021799
Actually pearl harbour was a terrorist attack with lead America to DECLARE war on the axis powers
>>672021666
You said what happened in Vietnam wasn't a war. That (surprisingly?) turned out to be wrong. That's not a technicality, that's being wrong. You can tell it's sth more precise, but it's still a war.
>>672021343
>listen kid
Listen kid you don't want to see my other side. I have a wolf inside me with a muzzle on, but the muzzle is about to come off. You broke her heart, and I will break yours. She is a nice girl, how dare you use her like this. How come people like you get to date her? Then people like me have to sit in the shadows and be the shoulders to cry on. Listen Kid, I don't have time for FUCKING games. I am a nice guy, but when you make a nice guy angry; the world shakes. Don't do it again. ... You will regret this the next FULL MOON. You mess with me you mess with the pack bud. FUCK you.
>>672021902
He's calling the policing guys on their own bullshit
>>672021957
no it wasn't you retarded fag
>>672022047
No you dense fuck, it's LIKE a war, but technically not a war, based on the technicality that we never formally declared war.
>>672020990
>Goggle
>>672022047
IT WAS NOT A WAR YOU STUPID FUCKTARD
>>672019382
>neo-nazis exist
ideas dont die, they evolve
>>672016771
depends, if its full mobilization and they go in to win and not pussy foot around like we did in afghanistan and iraq then easily, hell within 6 months it could be over but the most likely situation would be us going in and our own leaders screwing us over for political positioning as well as punishing our troops for doing what needs to be done
like if isis used human children to carry bombs to kill soldiers or used human shields eventually we will kill the kids and just shoot through the people because if they dont then they die but the american people will turn against our troops for it because of our media and the politicians who will fuel the fire for personal agendas. it would be vietnam all over so unless we shut the media up or isis drops a nuke or large dirty bomb the US would defeat itself for isis
>>672022060
"Im a nice guy" everyone on 4chan including me is a scum bag and you know it unless your a newfag
>>672022192
what was it then? an armed conflict?
>>672016771
Sandniggers with jamming ak's and no aim whatsoever are no the threat. ..thats what your government wants you to think...but why
>>672021957
>terrorist attack=not war
heard of the war on terrorism ?
>>672022292
kek
People forget that we are the reason Isis exists, figuratively and literally when we sent "freedom fighters" over to fuck with Soviet Russia
>>672022060
>Being taken seriously on the internet
>>672022277
This nice dubs btw
>>672020161
We sold to Iran. Check out their fleet of F14s
>>672022292
>believed this post was serious
you have to be more critic of what you read anon... everywhere everytime. Especially in the medias, including the internet.
>>672022060
nice pasta
>>672019382
The Nazi Third Reich might be destroyed, but Nazism as an ideology can never be destroyed.
>>672022582
thanks
>>672022060
I love this one
>>672022666
like your moms butthole
>>672022666
Satan Trips Checked
>>672022666
Perfect trips m8
No ROE or Geneva and Hague and we will wipe a large country off the map. Politicians and the media are the only thing that keeps us from obliterating everything we see.
>>672022179
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/war
>A state of armed conflict between different countries or different groups within a country
None of this talks about the need for a declaration
At least we can all agree that Trump is the best candadate
>>672022060
KEK
>>672023000
Waist of trips faggot
>>672023000
So what? That doesn't change a thing. This is High School History man, so either you didnt do very well in school or you haven't gotten to that yet, in which case, mods.
>>672022179
you don't have to declare war to start one retard
>>672023122
waist is the part of your mom i'm holding
waste is what you're doing to your life
>>672023160
Read a fucking book, Im done explaining this shit to you dropouts.
>>672023158
>12 year old butthurt anon confirmed
>>672023158
This thank you
>>672023047
Nope.
>>672023158
If you want to talk about this I just completed my master's degree so high school is a bit far away, but I'm pretty sure they told me at the time the Vietnam war was called the Vietnam war.
For lulz : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminology_of_the_Vietnam_War
>>672023336
your mom
>>672023253
so you wouldn't say for example there is a civil war in east Ukraine because no one declared war? or the Israeli–Palestinian conflict?
>>672023475
They called it that, it was a police action, because we never officially declared war.
didn't read thread but i assume a bunch of liberal bernie cucks are pulling the vietnam card. we killed one million five hundred thousand vietnamese cuckfarmers. the us marines alone would wipe isis off the face of the planet. god bless america.
>>672023617
It would be a civil war. It's not my belief anon, it's a fact, I'm reporting a fact.
>>672023625
A declaration of war is a formal act by which one state goes to war against another.
>formal act
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declaration_of_war#Article_1
>>672023700
no people are just fighting over if vietnam was a war or police action. pretty sure half of them are mixing vietnam and korea together
>>672023746
but how can it be a civil "war" if no one declared war?
>>672023213
rekt
>>672019523
If the US went to open ground war with ISIS, ISIS would resort to guerilla style tactics.
Britbong Army Medic here, when we first got to Afghanistan, the Taliban openly engaged us in pitched combat and got absolutely stomped every single time. Thats when they thought "fuck this" and just IED'd everywhere and resorted entirely to ambushes.
SHUT THE FUCK UP ANONS YOUR ALL HIGHSCHOOL DROP OUTS OR UNDERAGE FAGS LETS JUST AGREE THAT TRUMP WOULD BE THE BEST PRESIDENT
>>672023746
>>672023625
You're gonna have to give a source if you want this to be considered a fact.
If you can't find any you might want to rethink this.
>>672023846
i'm just here to read if a war declaration is need to call it a war at all or something else?
>>672023846
>pretty sure half of them are mixing vietnam and korea together
Gooks are gooks right?
>>672023829
>>672023900
I'm not going to sit here and explain this shit, Vietnam was a police action. That's what the history books say, so take it up with them.
Attacking countries without a declaration of war was official downfall of American morality.
>>672023700
The US lost their goal in Vietnam thus meaning they lost the war.
>>672024009
Its not my opinion, its a fact, and I dont really care.
>>672023968
Agree
>>672023968
No
>>672024107
WOOO NEVER LOST A WAR!!! USA USA USA!!
>get around this by technically never declaring war since 1939
>>672024087
i don't give a shit about vietnam!!! By your standards you mean a war have to have a war declarations
>>672024220
USA USA USA
>>672024087
Quote an history book saying it and I can take it. A neutral author would be better.
>>672024236
Its not my standards, I didnt make this shit up.
>>672023968
Trump openly admits he would enact war crimes on ISIS member families. Can you imagine the reaction that would get? WW3 in a heartbeat.
>>672024220
This sums up pretty well the whole conversation
>>672024307
Im not going to waste my time scouring the history books looking for this to convince a couple anons who were asleep that day in class. Do your own research.
>>672024326
>Can you imagine the reaction that would get?
Probably the same reaction to the USA breaking agreements and committing atrocities now, the UN whines about it, has an investigation and demands the USA do something. The USA then make a half-assed promise to try to do better in future.
>>672024324
ok but you have to provide a source and not anything about Vietnam, i'm talk about war any war. if vietnam was a police action thats fine. but drop vietnam
Why would they want to defeat them? Did Bush not say we are gone take the war to them. That is what he meant. As long as they are fighting over there they are not fighting over here. Let them exterminate each-other.
And can the US defeat them , lol, if they wanted to they are gone in 24 hours.
>>672024452
You just know you're wrong deep down and you were fooled by a shitty writing that you believed without questioning. It's okay anon, it happens to every radical muslim in the world too.
>>672024508
I dont have to do shit. Im reporting a fact, if you can't accept that, whatever, no skin off my back.
>>672020425
700,000? Not even close, also check that against total vs total caused by the US.
The biggest problem with prosecuting a war is a lack of commitment. You have a lot of well off liberal influences in American politics. These are people who don't understand conflict. They have first world problems, they think of conflict in terms of dealing with passive-aggressive baristas or inconsiderate assholes eating their lunch out of the company fridge. They use the term 'fight' to describe having a stern or strongly worded discussion about a political issue. By and large, they have never actually fought or experienced violence. The idea that two cultures are incompatible is alien to them, because if we could just understand each other we'd all get along right? So they push for action, because its social irresponsible to not do anything while someone drags a six year old out in the street and pours gasoline down her throat and sets her on fire because she held a boy's hand. But then, because they don't understand that a guy who will do something like that and a culture that will let him can't be reasoned with, they never respond appropriately. You are never going to talk that kind of evil out of the world and liberals refuse to accept that.
>>672019949
source ?
>>672024602
Not really, I just listened in class.
>>672024452
haha what kind of logic is that???
>Hillary cliton killed 500000 Finnish babies and ate them
>Im not going to waste my time. providing a source Do your own research.
>>672024641
Yeah you're right, it was around 750,000 a couple years before it ended.
>>672024720
The logic is that I dont really care too much what some anon I dont even know believes, so Im not going to put forth that much effort to convince you, there's nothing in it for me.
>>672024720
You're just going to have to accept it, even though it's called the Vietnam WAR, the WAR on Communism etc, the one single act that the USA never formally declared war before performing every action done in a war means anon is technically correct.
>>672024602
kek
>my dad told me this so it must be true
>>672024989
jesus fucking christ, and don't care about nam. I'm talking about war in general. drop the fucking vietnam. i haven mention it once.
>>672021352
didn't matter. the only to win would have been to annihilate an entire race of people. the US lacks the balls needed to win such a conflict, and instead made only a token effort to achieve victory. until we are willing to take full measures, we will never be successful against an enemy on an asymmetric battlefield.
>>672024681
So you trusted the word of a single teacher ? That's even worse than a single book. You do know your teachers (and most people) have opinions and sometimes try to pass them as facts right ?
>>672025143
Drop it man, Vietnam isn't technically a War. Stop going on about it.
>>672020990
it is the same fucking shit retard, it is a war without formalizing it
>>672024681
> I paid attention during my indoctrination, I am right.
Lol.
>>672025306
kek not biting
>>672025306
>muh police action
>>672021352
>we killed more = we won.
Hey guys, Germany beat the Soviet Union in WW2.
>>672024126
wrong berniecuck, we were forced to pull out because the liberalized 1960s american public didn't have the stomach for a dirty war like vietnam.
>>672025231
>Teachers shouldnt be trusted.
Seriouslly? A simple google search produces this:
Congress passed the “Gulf of Tonkin Resolution” unanimously authorized President Johnson the power to wage an undeclared war in Vietnam. The war was called a police action just like the Korean War.
O Americans, and O Europeans, the Islam-
ic State did not initiate a war against you, as
your governments and media try to make you
believe. It is you who started the transgression
against us, and thus you deserve blame and
you will pay a great price. You will pay the price
when your economies collapse. You will pay
the price when your sons are sent to wage war
against us, and they return to you as disabled
amputees, or inside coffins, or mentally ill.
>>672024126
Politucally, yes, america did. Militarily, though, the veitnam war was a massive succes. I forget the actual casualty disparity but it was pretty large. The only reason America ever lost significant ground, was by a violation of a cease fire during thr vietnamese new years; which while initially successful, was almost immediately reversed. The tet offensive was a military and tactical failure for the NVA as they held no ground, at the end of the campaign, that they had gained. Want to try again?
>>672025443
>muh "i disagree with the law therefore you're wrong"
>>672025560
Teachers can only teach what they were taught. This doesn't mean they are right.
So both Pearl Harbor and any Vietnam battle are not acts of war.
But Pearl Harbor is terrorism and Vietnam is policing.
You sincerely can't be this retarded. You know they're human beings even if they aren't americans right ?
>>672025730
So why have teachers at all anon?
>>672025698
>muh using a smokescreen to obscure the nature of the conflict.
>>672025560
> the power to wage an undeclared war in Vietnam. The war was called a police action just like the Korean War.
>the power to wage an undeclared war
Your own quotes say it's a war...
if you're trolling you got me hard
>>672016771
Yeah they could do easily do it. Pussy president not doing a thing about it
>>672025914
Read the definition of a police action
>>672025820
To introduce ideas and events to people who might not hear about them at all. After this introduction you should do your own research. Accepting the word of a teacher without question is moronic.
>>672025820
because some (most) of them aren't assholes and teach the good thing, and/or multiple versions, and/or teach to be critical.
It's especially important to be critical in hard and soft sciences, and in history.
>>672025867
>the conflict
Not denying it was a conflict, it wasn't a War though.
Stop raping me anon, even though the law defines rape as an object forcefully penetrating the vagina or anus, I disagree with that legal definition therefore it's wrong and you're raping me.
>>672026036
It's moronic to think that people should investigate everything a teacher tells them. Our teachers are in that position because they are deemed worthy of being trusted to teach our kids.
>>672026009
Can't you realize it can be a war AND a police action just like your own quote said ?
The point is, you can't say Vietnam war wasn't a war.
>>672026191
They are supposed to teach that to the kids, starting from when they are over 12.
>>672026210
No it can't thats like saying it can be true and false. A police action is an undeclared war, real wars are declared.
>>672026191
Yes, when a subject is entirely objective, such math, it is fine to accept what they say at face value. However when dealing with subjects such as history, or philosophy, it is idiotic NOT to question what you are told.
>>672026428
>real war
so undeclared war=false war ?
does it sound right to you ?
>>672025730
Ever heard of personal experience you fuck-dick-tard ?
>>672021704
Actually they meant for an open declaration of war to be issued to the US government in tandem with the Pearl Harbor attack but there was a backlog. Thus accidentally making it a terror act.
Honestly how would a joint effort from different nations change things?
>>672026692
I know what you're saying, but it's technically not a real war, even though it has all the qualities of a war, all except one.
>>672026129
Nice straw man.
I'm not going to carry on this conversation with you for the following reasons:
1) You are obviously a statist invalid who cannot see past legal definitions.
2) You are a sophist and have no interest in honest discourse.
3) You are an obnoxious faggot, who is not worth arguing with over the internet.
4) I have a paper I should be writing, which is more important than educating the likes of you.
>>672016771
Depends on if we declare war on ISIS as a group or go for all the territory they have.
We will ste-- I mean liberate some oil , but nation building we can't do if people don't want to work/not learn.
See related: Japan vs Afghanistan
>>672026946
So Iraq and Vietnam wars were terrorism ? What would be the difference ?
>>672027120
I agree with you on this guy on all of the 4 points and gonna play dota.
>>672026946
No, the attack on pearl harbor was suppised to bring America to the negotiating table for oil and other natural resources. In reality, the japs should have attacked east russia and split that war instead of pushing the chinese stalemate. Would have changed the whole post WW2 reconstruction era.
>>672026998
War : a state of armed conflict between different countries or different groups within a country.
Where the fuck does it says that there is a need for official paper ?
Meh, call it whatever you want, in the end, the soccer moms got back their opium kids, you guys threw aircraft out of your CVs since you ran too fast to prepare an ordered evacuation and as usual left all the civis behind to be slaughtered.
And the best part, you're still too pround to admit it.
>>672016771
Could US grou- get the fuck out of here with these retarded posts. Could US ground troo- What the fuck do you think son?
>>672027505
I have no idea, it's political/military jargon. It sounds just as stupid to me, but thats what it is.
>>672027505
It's just an armed conflict because there's no recognized government opposing the us. So a formal declaration of war will not be made even if we sent people in.
>>672027668
Nope. The pussies needs airsupport & tanks. Else they can't do shit.
>>672027969
...tanks are part of ground forces
Just try to love, better to want to know (in general to be two, better than copying one's want to go for or against)
>>672027969
Keep sippin' your fuckin tea faggot
>>672016771
You got defeated by Rice farmers with 0 combat skill, your army sucks dick lmaoo... you could probably but there is no point in defeating ISIS when you are getting soo much money from them doing Terrorist actions in middle east
>>672027969
>not realising that tanks are ground forces.
>not realising that America generally doesn't do just ground forces
>combined arms for a reason.
>still not realising we wold stomp those sandniggers who can't fight.
>>672028248
As i Said...
>>672020582
underrated as fuck
>>672019382
Google Azov Battalion
>>672016771
American weapons vs American weapons... idk
>>672016771
In open conflict, of course. Superiour training, and firepower. However, it wouldn't really matter. If you could simply kill Islamic radicals away this shit would've been over decades ago.
>>672019056
>From battles they have won
That's a strange way to type Turkey and Saudi Arabia.
>Mfw this Anon thinks ISIS is like the GLA from CCG salvaging equipment.
>>672017569
you mean like vietnamese peasants?
You know what pisses me off about this whole thing?
1) The cucks blaming white cis scum for "starting it all via Afghan. like Afghan wasn't a shit whole for 300 years prior (Even the Russians tried to fix it up
2) The Media who claim inhumanity of "Barrel bombs" being dropped on "Ahmed dindu nuffins" - but will NOT show ISIS cutting heads off or butchering school girls because, ISLAM IS THE RELIGON OF PEACE!
3) The faggots who don't know jack shit about anything at all, but think we should send aid over because Ahmed is just the same as you or I, but he lives in a poor country.
If we could RedPill everyone, I swear we would be building death camps not migrant camps for these shitskin goat fuckers.
>>672018493
you can lol...
kill everyone that shares that ideology and then burn every note of it...
it worked with the nazis... the nazis of today are just moronic airheads that no one even takes seriously unless they hunt someone with a baseball bat
>>672022253
>neonazis
>evolved
top kek
>>672023700
>thinking you win a war by killing civilians
>still getting beaten by ricefarmers
>>672022253
>>672022666
The Nazi ideology has been fucked up to a point where it is no longer a threat. And that was done through war.