why aren't you a vegan?
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why aren't you a vegan?
>>671629553
Cause I don't want to be.
>>671629553
Same reason you arent
>>671629553
Testosterone levels.
>>671629553
Im straight.
people gonna kill, dont let the meat go to waste
Meat taste nice.
>>671629553
Because I like the way murder tastes
>>671629553
Because I have canine teeth.
Because nobody is.
>>671629553
I have a backbone.
I like to enjoy nice things
>>671629891
op should have asked
>why arent you a vegetarian?
bc its nasty
>>671630226
See? Vegetarianism is a choice. Veganism is a bludgeon to force your smugness on others with.
>>671630315
>nasty
>>671629553
I'm not a hipster faggot.
>>671629891
Most of those things have meatless alternatives.
because I am not a faggot who craves validation from other people, and that needs to get it by telling them how much my food benefits the world.
>>671629891
The internet. Fooling idiots into believing they actually know something.
>>671629553
Cuz I'm not a hipster retard
>>671630367
Fucking vegans are the scientologists of the dietary world. Mother fuckers were cornering people coming off of a bus one day to shove their guilt-trip pro vegan fliers in their faces.
>>671630529
>thinks he knows something
>>671629553
Because I'm not a massive faggot
>>671630419
Why use a meatless alternative, when what you want is meat?
>>671629553
I don't suck copious amounts of cock.
Because I'm not a fucking pussy. My food shits on vegan food.
I'm not a vegan, but I've moved heavily towards a plant-based diet and lost 70 lbs in 6 months.
>>671630529
Agreed. Vegans are fucking delusional.
ITT: People pretending they are making a choice and have the self control necessary to not put meat in their mouth.
>>671629553
Because I love trying to guess the name of whatever I'm chewing.
>>671629553
http://www.iflscience.com/plants-and-animals/plants-can-hear-themselves-being-eaten
http://www.iflscience.com/plants-and-animals/ordering-vegetarian-meal-there-s-more-animal-blood-your-hands
Cause I don't give two shits about the animal I'm eating. We domesticated them so we could eat them, and now its impossible for them to survive in the wild. So us eating them is the only thing keeping their species alive.
>>671630746
I'm overweight and I don't eat animal products. I need to cut down on the white bread. I'm going to start eating healthier.
>>671630746
> "Eggs, Fish & Fat-Free Dairy"
> Picture of a chicken
Chicken are fish, now.
>>671630687
Those are by products. There are alternatives to those by products. The only people I know who can't control their craving for meat are women, especially during pregnancy.
>>671631071
well, the simplest tip i can give is to have salads when u used to have sandwiches.
i even bring my own kale into mcdonalds and get a grilled chicken snack wrap.....and throw away the tortilla and make it a grilled chicken over kale salad.
>>671629553
Because it fulfills my primal desire to feel flesh between my jaws and the soothing, comforting taste of another animal's flesh being consumed. It's better, though, to kill something and then dress it yourself and eat it because it brings you closer to the reality that another organism is dying so that you can sustain yourself.
>>671630524
No, your the faggot who needs to eat meat to not feel like a pussy.
:)
>>671630802
Not sure delusional would be an accurate assessment. Just a choice some people make for a variety of different reasons. It is delusional to assume that one cannot successfully and quite easily be a vegan, especially since quite a few of the examples given in that infographic are not applicable to modern uses of a bovine or it's byproducts. Just makes whoever posted that sound uneducated.
>>671629553
Two reasons:
1. I like meat.
2. There is no legitimate reason to not eat meat.
Say why you think I'm wrong and I will argue with you.
>>671631392
Yeah I'm going to make some salads. I can get my weight under control. I just get lazy and start eating unhealthy snacks. I'm just getting older and gaining weight is different when you're older.
>>671631581
>>671631625
>>671631825
>samefagging
>mfw 4chan seems more understanding and supportive of vegans than most of society
I thought this place was supposed to be horrible
>>671629660
Because you couldn't be if you tried.
>>671631937
I guess its a matter of keeping the unhealthy snacks out of the house. i do fine whenever i stock up on celery, carrots, nuts and seeds.
>>671631918
u can like what you want, but you're wrong.
>>671630746
>>671631392
>>671631625
So, some quack dreams up a fad diet and we're supposed to drop everything and hop-to? Also, note that this "Doctor's" food pyramid still instructs us to eat animal products, even if it's not often.
So, why are we supposed to become vegan again?
>>671631918
Meat causes great suffering to animals and is destructive to the environment and your health. That's my argument.
>>671629721
The only way I can keep my testosterone levels down is by masturbating daily.
>>671631995
Someone forgot to backtrace...
What's everyone's favorite meat-based meal? I like beef and lamb donairs,
>>671629738
Is that why you crave the taste of raw meat in your mouth?
>>671631392
You do realize you can order just a grilled chicken without the wrap right? It's not like it's federal law they serve it with a tortilla. They will sell just the chicken....
>>671629773
People shit too. Don't let that go to waste anon.
>>671632294
there's nothing fad about Fuhrman. he's just got a strict plan.
it's too strict for me right now, but I've incorporated a majority of it and my life has improved greatly
>>671632290
>bias study that holds no water is the only defense vegans can muster in the face of people simply choosing to eat meat
>their sensitive little assholes can't handle people not bending over backwards to be just like them
>they want to feel like heroes but they do more harm than good
>>671632371
Beef curtains fam
>>671632648
Amerifat Agriculture industry stooge detected
>>671629553
Because meat is delicious and nutritious
>>671629553
I eat meat because I want to destroy this planet because i hate the human race and i feel like eating beef is one of the best ways to do so. Also, it tastes fucking great and i'm fucking sick to death of hearing about blah blah blah healthy blah blah blah weight. The human body stores energy as fat. get the fuck over it. my god you idiots would send an advanced peaceful race packing without so much as saying hi if they looked ikky.
>>671632336
>quick they're onto me
>better use some Internet buzzwords
>>671632587
You're right, we can make drinking water from it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVzppWSIFU0
>>671632371
Also who the fuck eats raw meat?
>>671631995
I'm samefagging but you didn't catch me that time. I'm the guy who keeps trolling meat eaters with easy bait.
>>671632297
Eating plants causes great suffering to plants.
Are you saying plants, as living beings, have less rights than animals? Also, you speak of suffering? What do you know of suffering? What of human suffering due to lack of animal protein to consume in poor countries?
It is true that animals are destructive to the environment, but this can be controlled to a degree.
There is absolutely no scientific basis for your opinion that it is destructive to ones health to eat meat. In fact, many scientific studies could argue the exact opposite.
>>671632779
>pays out the ass to eat "organic" garbage
>too stupid to do their own research
>let's a book tell them how to live their life
Sure whatever ya say.
>>671632338
My favorite is chicken. There is a place that makes this delicious fake chicken sandwich. It's amazing. Too bad it's kind of pricey.
>>671633027
>trolling
Damn dude. Ya gonna go to school tomorrow and tell all your fat fuck friends you trolled 4chan so hard?
>>671632797
Also, I hope that future generations of our race have to pay for our mistakes to the tune of extinction. Fuck your healthy, bean eating, fairy fuck offspring. People like you are why humanity actually is a plague.
>>671632736
Maybe that's why I don't eat meat. I like my pussy without the excess flaps. Porn has ruined me. No hair either.
>>671632122
You're so brave.
I don't want to grow vaginas all over my body.
>>671633337
>humanity is a plague
I know fourteen is a hard time of your life but it'll get better kiddo.
when you understand this, as well as the fact that the sensation of feeling full usually takes 10-15 minutes to reach your brain, it can help you from overeating
I'm not a vegan because I have a b12 deficiency.
>>671633027
>I'm the guy
>>671633027
XD LE EPIC TROLL XDDD
I don't even like meat, I just love murder.
>>671633563
try 29. Die in a fire faggot.
I am.
>>671633027
>>671632799
>>671631995
Damn kids these days. Stepping on my lawn. Listening to their 'rap' music. Sounding like broke dicks. In my day we were the samefag when we bumped our own post. SLOW DOWN!!!
>>671633710
Tsk tsk tsk. No need to lie. Have you had the talk yet or did your daddy teach you about sex by fucking your ass raw?
>>671632848
That's pretty impressive. It's a great source of energy but pretty inefficient way to get water.
Vegan enchilada casserole I made. bomb as fuck.
>>671633710
ooo...we've got a badass here...
I'm not a faggot college aged hipster.
>>671633906
Hopefully one day, with further developments, it will be a viable source.
Meatless Italian sausage for my spaghetti.
>>671633968
Why does it have to be enchilada casserole? Can't you fuckin vegan faggots just make one or the other and not some horrifying Frankenstein monster of dishes?
>>671633047
Plants don't feel pain. They don't have a central nervous system. You must've read somewhere that they send signals when damaged or something. That's not pain. And even if they did feel pain, it takes more plants to make meat than it would take if we ate the plants directly. Plants have to be fed to animals that people eat. So either way, you shouldn't eat meat. Also, protein is abundant in a lot of foods. You couldn't get protein deficiency if you tried.
And about the environment, how about being more responsible and trying to control it fully instead of just "to a degree"?
About health, meat is linked to several cardiac diseases. They have a lot of cholesterol. It does more harm than good.
>>671633968
...Fuck me, that actually looks pretty good.
>>671633661
Meat eaters are just as likely to develop b12 deficiency. The only reason the meat you eat has b12 in it is because some animal farmers supplement their livestock with b12. B12 comes from water and soil. When we filter water and wash our plant foods we also wash away the b12. So just take the b12 supplement yourself.
>>671633904
>>671633710
Edgelords
>>671633246
>>671633664
>>671633668
>>671633831
I'm probably older than most you. I do have to go to school tomorrow. This thread is fun though. I'm old and still in college, hopefully I'll finish soon.
>>671633904
Lel, your posts illustrate my point about humanity being worthless moreso than i ever could. Your shit eating attitude alone makes me want death for humanity. People like you are why i am ashamed to be a human.
>>671633968
Oh man, mine's vegan, too. Delicious, man.
>>671634136
forgot pic
>>671634162
it lasts like 3 days as a caserole why the fuck wouldn't I?
>>671629553
I was once from 23 to 26.
Then the hunger was stronger then me.
never went back but I still do not eat much meat , maybe once a week if not less.
You could say I'm a vegetarian 6 days a week.
Because man's greatest achievement in history, the forrero rochere, would be off the table
>>671634294
>Autism
>>671633968
Looks like fucked up nachos... I'd eat it.
>>671634346
I have folders full of gore son. I've been here for years. I don't do this shit for animals.
This is my favorite vegan chocolate cake form a place in la.
>>671634162
You are fucking retarded. He just made an enchilada in a pan how it's made. Casserole just means pan.
>>671634302
Gonna listen to Crawling in my Skin one more time and cut yourself about it?
I'm not a hipster, I enjoy the taste of meat etc.
I don't see any compelling reason TO be a vegan unless I become homosexual.
>>671629848
never understood that argument.
Many herbivores have canines.
>>671634597
It looks like shit and probably tastes like it too. I could make myself a better cake and i'm fucking awful at cooking.
>>671634123
If you look at how our water sources are diminishing it will probably be our only source. Mad Max here we come.
>>671634459
>forrero rochere
solely because of the milk chocolate? that's sad.
i don't think eating those violates the true spirit of veganism
>>671634294
I'm only 12...
>>671634294
>I couldn't be more underage
>this thread made me mad
>I'm in middle school probably gonna drop out
Ftfy
>>671634676
Lel. nah ill just sit back and watch humanity devolve and degrade into the shitsippers you fucks are.
>>671630746
How does one get 60% of their calories from food that requires like a fucking pound of it to be any notable amount of calories?
>>671634597
This isn't gore, this is a pig I slaughtered a couple of months back. I mean, I guess it's gore, but that's coincidental.
>>671634371
Why not make normal enchiladas not enchilada casserole? they would last the same
>>671629553
My IQ is over 20
>>671632290
>Pic of china study
i dont know if im being trolled or your actually serious posting a debunked study
watch it free....change your life.
http://www.hulu.com/watch/478858
>>671634914
>just finished how to be an edgy kid on the Internet 101
>>671629553
I like meat
>>671632597
Improved how?
I already eat whatever and I'm below average weight, what could switching to this shit do for me?
>>671629553
Vegetarians and vegans are failures in human evolution.
>>671634725
I doubt you could top that cake.
My favorite dish to make is fucking spaghetti. I make this shit maybe once a week. That tofurkey itallian sausage is pretty legit
>>671629553
Simple undeniable arguement for why meat is good. It is a well established FACT that without eating meat, specifically COOKED meat, humans would NOT have had the caloric intake needed to develop brains capable of deciding (incorrectly) that eating meat is bad. Check and mate.
>>671635073
Vegucated lol I see what you did there
>>671634248
Not him, but I take a vegan multivitamin with B12. Vegan organizations say it's fine but research is out and there is still no reliable source of vegan b12. I personally think that I get enough B12 but I need to get an physical to be sure. It's the only thing I'm concerned about.
>>671634984
dontworryitssow
>>671635261
Shit i could top that cake with store bought cake mix and some eggs.
>>671635261
>spaghetti
Fuckin master chef over here gonna show everyone how it's done in the kitchen eh? Holy fuckin kek
Can't cook vegan, also I don't have the mindset to learn how to cook again completely.
>>671635243
or maybe they're transcendent...because they master self-sustaining efficiency.
look into what agricultural livestock does to the environment.
>>671629553
Because I'm Bi, not gay.
>>671634173
Animals can be killed in a humane way in which they do not feel pain.
The fact it takes more plants to make meat for energy than eating the plants directly is valid. However, spending more plants for the luxury of meat is an extra price spent for that luxury. It can be compared to spending $20,000 for basic car or $60,000 for a more luxurious car.
Meat is a luxury.
On that note, enjoying pleasurable things in life has bee linked to reducing the risk of cardiovascular disease. Meat, in moderation and enjoyed thoroughly, along with a healthy diet of vegetables, I would argue as being the healthiest of diets.
As for the environment, controlling it fully is a pipe dream and is simply not realistic except from a childish point of view. All we can do is control environmental damage the best we can, and restore the environment the best we can while at the same time developing new technology and methods to do both.
>>671635279
Yeah, that was a while ago, genius. We don't need it anymore.
>>671634985
I like my mexican lasagna ok!!!!!
speaking of this is my first attempt at lasagna.
>>671634886
Best thread all day. I like to hear meat eaters say vegans need validation by seeking validation for eating meat.
Because I'm human
Because of John Sakars
>>671633661
Coconut milk, soy milk, etc is often fortified with b12, as is nutritional yeast.
>>671635331
If you are going to supplement b12 you don't even have to take it that often. A lot of tofu is supplemented with b12 and other stuff so maybe just buy that or something.
>>671629553
Because I love cheese and meet.
In fact, I have a couple of nice home made ricotta cheeses draining as we speak. I'm gonna use one of them in a lasagna.
faggot
>>671635524
Who gives a fuck about the environment? Nothing notably bad can happen to it till after I'm dead.
>>671635460
good food isnt fancy food. Im most impressed by well developed flavors and marinara sauce is hard to get perfect.
plus judging food on pictures is kinda idiotic
>>671635572
Hah, incorrect. The brain consumes more of the bodies energy than ANY other organ by FAR. limiting the amount of meat you eat is essentially the difference between a weed wacker and a lawnmower. Sure, you can cut the grass with a fucking weed wacker, but it'd be alot faster and look much fucking better if you just used the lawnmower like your brain wasn't made of soy products.
I can't stand the taste of most plants that aren't fruit or staple stuff like wheat or corn. Vegetables, nuts stuff like that tastes absolutely disgusting, whereas meat is pretty good.
>>671635938
so why the fuck you takin pictures dawg
>>671635524
Talking to a guy whose been on farms here /b/ud. You not eating meat isn't saving anything and its not proving any points. Some animals are put on the earth to be rounded up and eaten. It doesn't hurt the environment any you fucking nit wit.
>Studying zoology by the way
the easiest way to try to avoid these is to only shop in the produce and frozen aisles at the supermarket.
>>671635524
>look into what agricultural livestock does to the environment
Look at what building cities does to the environment, do you try to stop new homes from being built?
>>671635487
All I know how to make is tofu stir fry. Just fry some tofu in a little bit of oil and throw a bunch of vegetables and seasoning. Eat it with some rice.
I have no idea what I'm doing but it usually turns out good.
>>671635635
but why do you like it...
>>671635380
you don't even know how it tastes. If you live in LA try it. its at doomies home cookin.
You could probably make a prettier looking cake but not a better tasting one from a store (trust me I ate a lot of store cake in my life)
>>671635460
Master chef?? Really, me?? I'm honored good sir. *tips organic, gluten-free fedora*
Favorite stuff from Veggie Grill
>>671635662
>admits to spending all day on here
Jesus first I thought you were just stupid but now I see you're one of those legit /b/tards. Now you get my pity. How's it feel? To have someone pity you? Mmm like that don't ya.
>>671635662
Duuuuuude how much does your life suck for realz. That's what you spend your days doing? Go outside or something nigga.. You've had enough internet for one day.
>>671636066
that wasnt my post...
>>671635572
So basically what you are saying is that now that you have a brain that is SLIGHTLY better than an animals, you are content with that? fuck me you are a pathetic waste of life. Please do real people a favor by ceasing to waste resources on yourself.
>>671629553
I was vegan for six months. I'm almost atthe end of my six-month eat whatever the fuck you want binge. Then I'm going back.
>>671636040
Yeah but I bet you season that meat with plants to make it taste good
>>671636106
You shouldn't eat soy products as a male.
>>671636163
This is just one reason the north fucking sucks
>>671636163
This is like porn.
>>671635815
I hear cereal is sometimes supplemented with B12 but I looked and mine doesn't have it.
I don't understand if there would be no vegan source of B12 where does the B12 come from in all these supplemented foods?
I eat a lot of tofu and I think it has B12.
because these dubs are too fucking good.
>>671636127
Dude, your palate has been ruined by eating rabbit food for years and years and in reality you have no idea what good food tastes like, i can assure you, cake without dairy products is NOT good food.
>>671629553
i know way too many people that I would feel compelled to tell and also yell "MURDERER!" at when I seen them with a Big Mac
>>671629553
I'm a long time vegetarian.
>>671636127
Bro, it's like they don't even get it, man. Here we are, transforming into ubermensche the way that ever vegan before us has, and they're all over there being neanderthals hitting rocks and shit with rocks and shit.
Cuz meats good, I need my proteins, and I don't giva fuck about animals getting killed since I'm not there to see it myself
>>671636345
herbs and spices to enhance flavour yeah, but I'm not gonna base my whole diet on fruits, corn, wheat and herbs and spices and I? I'd die, so I have to have eggs, meat, milk that sort of stuff.
>>671635571
>Animals can be killed in a humane way in which they do not feel pain.
Killing is not humane, no matter how it is done. You don't hear people say "i humanely killed a dog". We don't have to kill them, so its inhumane.
>The fact it takes more plants to make meat for energy than eating the plants directly is valid. However, spending more plants for the luxury of meat is an extra price spent for that luxury. It can be compared to spending $20,000 for basic car or $60,000 for a more luxurious car.
Meat is a luxury.
The price for that "luxury" is the environment.
>On that note, enjoying pleasurable things in life has bee linked to reducing the risk of cardiovascular disease. Meat, in moderation and enjoyed thoroughly, along with a healthy diet of vegetables, I would argue as being the healthiest of diets.
The enjoyment you get does not counterbalance the meat consumption.
>As for the environment, controlling it fully is a pipe dream and is simply not realistic except from a childish point of view. All we can do is control environmental damage the best we can, and restore the environment the best we can while at the same time developing new technology and methods to do both.
Correct, we should control it the best we can. And the one of the things we can do to control it the best we can is by stop consuming animal products.
>>671636374
Only women have problems with soy.
>>671636081
LOL, if you are avoiding high fructose corn syrup you better avoid all sugar dawg. The structural difference between the two is so minor that consumption of either one in more than moderate quantities is essentially the same.
>>671636107
Idk it just feels heartier in that form.
Daiya makes the best boxed mac and cheese.
>>671636345
Meat and veggies together is the best thing for you. The only reason meat and are any different is because the order in which the amino acids are set up (most the time)
>>671636404
for overcooking their beef?
let's dumb this shit down
>>671636612
Evidence? Since I've heard that soy is incredibly bad for dudes I've completely cut out using it for everything at all ever.
>>671629553
>>671635943
Um, avocado. Sounds like someone still think meat is the only thing that provides calories and amino acids.
>>671636592
>Killing is not humane
Literally no one gives a shit. I bet you don't care about an ant or a roach you step on.
Diet for a warring population: dominated by meat
Diet for a healthy population: dominated by fish
Diet for a spiritual population: dominated by pulses and vegetables
>>671636134
>>671636235
I wasn't here all day. Thank you for your pity. I had a great day. Went for an interview. I'm going to get fallow up interview. I'm going to get the job because I got connections in the place but I'm still terrorized because of all the new stuff.
How was your day anon?
>>671636578
I eat meat and these pics are still kinda gross.
>>671636732
No, because they don't even eat anything that tasty. Also shitty weather, lack of jobs etc
>>671629553
Because animals don't have rights.
>>671636490
How can you be so sure. I used to work at a vegan restaurant that didn't advertise as vegan and normies loved our desserts without even knowing there were no dairy products. even my dad who made fun of me for years liked them.
maybe you just haven't had good experiance trying vegan food if any. idk it can be good.
Maybe my palate is different now but thats fine. There are literally dozens, probably hundreds of fruits and vegetables I never tried before being vegan and still havent tried so theres a lot to discover. I never had ethiopian food before being vegan but that was a pretty big mistake on my part.
>>671636794
Plants have mechanisms that trigger in response to distress, too. These fucking pussies don't want to acknowledge that life is predicated upon the death of other organisms, and that any 'justification' someone can come up with is nonsense.
>>671636733
So if I'm actively working towards shortening my lifespan, avoid eating these and just stack on meats etc?
>>671636852
So made up..
>>671636434
I think you are confusing a vegan source with a natural source. Most b12 supplements are vegan if they arent encapsulated in a beeswax coating. But like I said before the only natural way to get b12 is from fresh water sources like rivers and lakes or from the soil. But you might get a bunch of toxins or other harmful things if you don't drink purified water or eat clean plants.
>>671636794
I don't kill ants on purpose, and it would be impossible to live without accidentally killing ants.
As for roaches, they carry diseases and infest places. This creates major problems for people.
Stop trying to compare these two situations with the mass murder of animals in factories where it can all be avoided.
>>671636780
Um, avocado will never, ever contain the same caloric intake as cooked meat, not even close. Especially after you consider that the body requires much more energy to even digest that shit. Sure, if you eat avocado you'll be skinny and "healthy" and be too weak to move after a few days of not eating. Good luck if anything happens to the food supply chain ever.
Reincarnational progress...
Caveman -> Barbarians -> Fundamentalist -> Conservatives -> Centrists -> Democrat -> Liberals -> Godlike
>>671636763
You can fallow the sources in wikipedia:
Women
>A 2001 literature review suggested that women with current or past breast cancer should be aware of the risks of potential tumor growth when taking soy products, based on the effect of phytoestrogens to promote breast cancer cell growth in animals.
Men
>However, a 2010 meta-analysis of 15 placebo controlled studies showed that neither soy foods nor isoflavone supplements alter measures of bioavailable testosterone or estrogen concentrations in men.[168] It has been hypothesized that soy foods and enterolactone may increase the development of prostate cancer although no significant associations were observed for the soy isoflavones.[169] Furthermore, soy consumption has been shown to have no effect on the levels and quality of sperm.[170] A 2009 meta-analysis of the research on the association between soy consumption and prostate cancer risk in men concluded that "consumption of soy foods is associated with a reduction in prostate cancer risk in men.
>>671636163
Sauce please!
>>671637239
You can't "murder" an non-human.
>>671636876
Don't be a girl.
some veg nachos I used to get at my old job. easily the best app we sold there
>>671637110
/thread.
Plants have feelings too.
I enjoy the taste of meat. I don't like enough different types of vegetables to have a consistent diet that would be tasty, healthy, and not repetitive. Plus I am a man so soy is out of the question.
>>671637094
Because I wasn't born yesterday. And I have good taste. For example: I know that lettuce tastes like garbage smells and that is the reason why people drown it in dressing so they can manage to shove that shit down their throat.
>>671637406
Oh boy, semantics.
It involves suffering and killing. I don't care what you call it.
>>671631625
>Stuff that's good for you tastes like shit
>Stuff that's bad for you tastes great
Why is life such a cruel fucking joke. it's like we are created just to suffer. our own bodies mentally torture us for no reason. Why the fuck doesn't the brain release chemicals when you eat vegetables so they taste better and make you feel good.
>>671637501
Woah wtf? Lettuce has almost no taste. Unless it has been grown in garbage water I guess but...do you really think that is how lettuce taste? Are you thinking of like...cabbage or something?
>>671637172
If that's made up I'm a pretty good lier. I'm probably lying about not eating meat too.
cause im lazy. passively becoming veg tho.
like im not into adding rules to my life so im still gunna steal a peice of bacon from work or drunkenly eat a taquito once in a while. but other than that i dont eat meat.
also i used to be anorexic n shit so i cant add too many rules to what i eat other wise ill go too far.
>>671636592
>Killing is not humane, no matter how it is done. You don't hear people say "i humanely killed a dog". We don't have to kill them, so its inhumane.
This is an opinion, not a fact. The fact that animals can be killed painlessly is a fact. In my opinion, killing animals is in fact, a very human thing to do.
>The enjoyment you get does not counterbalance the meat consumption.
Another opinion. The fact that animals "cost" more than meat is a fact. This makes that it is a luxury a fact.
>Correct, we should control it the best we can. And the one of the things we can do to control it the best we can is by stop consuming animal products.
I cannot argue if stopping the consumption of animal products would help control environmental damage because I do not know. However, stopping a major source of food as well as a major source of revenue across many sectors of the international economy introduces so many variables it may be impossible to determine the impact. Ceasing the consumption of all animals would certainly have economic and environmental consequences unforeseen.
>>671637239
So it's no big deal to kill an insect but such a big deal to kill a cow? When the cow actually provides something to other creatures upon its' death unlike the ant.
>Roaches carry diseases and infest places which cause problems for people so it's okay to kill those.
All living things can carry diseases, and a lot of living things can cause major problems for people.
>>671637604
So, plant life suffering is cool so long as it doesn't have a central nervous system close enough to your own? Why not jellyfish, then? Or, why not eat insects?
>>671637501
People modify meat as well. Try eating raw meat that was not cooked and tell me you like it.
>>671637501
Only super dark lettuce has much of a taste at all.
>>671637501
lettuce doesnt have a significant smell.. are you kidding around? it definitely doesn't smell like garbage.
Salad doesn't taste like anything really by itself without dressing (and avacado).
Meat needs "dressing" too (a1, pepper, seasoning salt, hikory)
Most people don't just eat a head of iceberg lettuce like most people don't just eat a raw unseasoned steak. lol
>>671637690
It's not for no reason, and in reality, things that taste good aren't nessesarily bad for you. Allow me to elaborate.
It depends on weather you are a quantity or quality kind of person, weather you would rather spend 120 years on the planet being a whiney faggot fuck who cries about stupid shit that doesn't matter or live 80 years and be happy.
I'd much rather be happy.
>>671637247
You know we have this thing called the internet; which has this place called google; which links you to an entire world or information; which people can use to fact check before they accidently sound retarded, right?
>>671636687
Plants have a complete amino acid profile and meat is not by any means the "best for you" when it has loads of fat, and cholesterol to clog your arteries increasing risk of heart disease, cancer, diabetes, and all cause mortality. Farming animals has the biggest negative environmental impact on the planet, and requires the suffering and death of billions of animals each year. So tell me again why it's the best for you?
>>671632104
Place was invaded by a bunch of fairy faggot leftist pussy ass bitches a while back, and from what I can tell they just keep coming in. I have nothing against vegans, just stating the facts about the state this place is in.
>>671637690
well most shit that tastes great is really good for you. but it tastes good cause it should be rare. but its not cause were good at life. fuck yeh. fuck ypou nature, we beat you, were just too dumb to know what to do now.
>>671637856
No thanks, my ancestors created or found this thing called "fire" and it is basically the basis for civilization as we know it so you have no point whatsoever and i'm not sure you are capable of thinking things through.
>>671629553
because humans were meant to eat a mix of meat and plant-based food sources. We are omnivores.
Most obviously, this is the shape of our teeth: sharp teeth in front for slicing and tearing through tissue (i.e. from meats), and rough flat teeth in the back for grinding fibers (i.e. from plants).
Less obvious perhaps, but still visible, is that throughout the fossil record, humans and hominids have been eating meat, as it was available on animals to be eaten. By limiting to plant sources, early humans or hominids would have had a difficult time achieving their dietary needs.
Less obvious still, and requiring knowledge of comparative anatomy, is that humans do not possess a cavity for breaking down vegetable matter over time, as many herbivores do. Were we meant to subsist entirely on vegetation, then it would make sense for humans to have an organ where microbes and acids can work on fibrous plant matter for many days before sending it on. By not possessing such an organ, it would be rather inefficient for humans to rely solely on plants for nutrition. Luckily, we are meant to eat meat which gives us the opportunity to nutrit ourselves in more efficient means.
>>671632104
Everything went south when you faggots took up 'causes', starting with the scientology thing. Kids thought it was an alternative spot for coooooool revolutionary types (with the same opinions as everyone else their age).
>>671629553
My gf is my vagina
>>671637981
I would prefer to live forever.
whether i live 80 or 120 years, It's still to short of a time to find happiness.
>>671637979
You can't even fucking read and comprehend dude, if you could, you'd know that i didn't say anything about how lettuce smells. Just based on the fact that you can't even read and comprehend english, im going to ignore anything else you have to say because you are a dumb fuck.
This tasted way better than it looks. Spicy as hell too. Used quinoa and soyrizo corn cilantro and black beans. I didn't think I'd get full off of it but it happened.
>>671638368
That's because you are stupid and don't think things through to their conclusion, living forever would be a horrible horrible torture for anyone who isnt a sociopath.
>>671637769
What kind of job did you interview for bra? I'll stop being a dick. You're so severely autistic that I'm starting to feel bad for giving you a hard time.
>>671637812
>This is an opinion, not a fact. The fact that animals can be killed painlessly is a fact. In my opinion, killing animals is in fact, a very human thing to do.
If you don't think unnecessary killing is wrong, i have no more comments for you.
>Another opinion. The fact that animals "cost" more than meat is a fact. This makes that it is a luxury a fact.
What? I don't even understand what you said there.
>I cannot argue if stopping the consumption of animal products would help control environmental damage because I do not know. However, stopping a major source of food as well as a major source of revenue across many sectors of the international economy introduces so many variables it may be impossible to determine the impact. Ceasing the consumption of all animals would certainly have economic and environmental consequences unforeseen.
Yeah, and they would be good consequences. Less environmental impact and more money will be saved (because the meat industry is subdsidized).
>>671638276
Some will argue that livestock is an expensive and horribly polluting waste of time.
And i completely agree. There are 7 billion humans, which is roughly 6 billion too many. Were the population balanced better, the climate would be changing on its own naturally instead of based on human activity, and maintaining herds of livestock for food would be less taxing on the planet.
>>671638368
Help me find immortality, anon-kun!
>>671637856
sashimi? prosciutto? There are tons of uncooked meats that're delicious, too.
>>671638276
>>671638381
That just goes to show how little I was paying attention to what you were saying because it sounded stupid. let me rephrase. lettuce doesn't have a particular taste or smell by itself.
What the fuck kind of rotten 3 week old shit are you eating that it tastes like garbage smells?
>>671637822
I didn't say it wasn't a big deal, i said it was unavoidable. Unlike the cow's death.
And cockroaches are MUCH worse when it comes to diseases. You can't compare all living being as equals in this matter.
>>671638228
do lions cook their meat?
>>671638012
Eating meat doesn't cause an increase of heart disease, cancer, diabetes, or mortality any more than going out in the sun 10 minutes a day is going to give you a sunburn.
It's all about the amount.
Getting no sun at all is very very bad for your body.
10 minutes of direct sunlight a day is very beneficial to your body.
30 minutes of the same direct sunlight, without protection, is very harmful to your body.
In the same way, eating some meat is very beneficial for your body.
Eating too much meat is bad for your body.
Eating no meat at all is bad for your body.
>>671632104
Depends where you live. Most people don't care what you eat. The only time I talk about being a vegan is when people ask me about it.
Because of the stigma I don't even say I'm vegan. I say shit like "I don't eat meat" or "I'm on a plant based diet" instead of saying I'm vegan.
>>671638693
lol, upon reading it a second time, anon figured out the meaning of my post and posted a cohereant response. I'm so proud, and yet, you are still incredibly stupid for not being able to read and comprehend a simple sentence. Kill yourself.
>>671638796
Are lions humans?
>>671637842
Plants don't feel pain.
I don't know about jellyfishes, but i wouldn't eat them just to be on the safe side. Although if there was concrete proof that they felt no pain, i could accept it. Same thing for insects, though i think insects almost undoubtedly feel pain.
>>671638537
Why?
>You'll see all you loved one die
please. no one actually lives forever, and seeing your family die (which they will ANYWAY) is a SMALL price to pay for eternal youth.
>You'll get bored
Yeah if ur an unimaginative fuck. Give it to me, i want to learn everything there is to know. i would read every book, research and invent new technologies.
>>671637444
What actually is that? also checked
>>671638944
are humans carnivores?
>>671638809
Eating no meat is not bad for your your body.... There is nothing in meat that your body needs that it can't get from plant sources. Please do at least some research on nutrition.
b12 deficiency is no laughing matter. I got it twice and it turns your muscles in to mush. I was unable to walk without falling like a fucking retard. it sucks massive dick.
>>671638704
Check your teeth real quick.
Nature dictates whether you eat meat or not.
>>671639001
Lol, neat kid, i'm not going to discuss it with you. go ahead and live forever and tell me all about it, oh wait thats impossible and therefore you will never understand how retarded you are.
>>671639050
Lmfao nope. the word is omnivore. Kill yourself please.
>>671639050
are carnivores animals?
>>671638647
But they are modified. They are prepared in some way. I'm talking about meat straight out of a carcass.
>>671638158
We are all in a "what now" phase.
Sounds about right.
>>671638989
>When a post is so stupid you have to read it twice, and after the second read through it's still just as wrong.
If I didn't kill myself over my ex I'm definitely not doing it because this anon with fucked up tastebuds and a shitty olfactory system told me to.
>>671639166
Fuck my loved ones, I would gladly be immortal.
>>671639166
>Oh wait
Vegan threads are always pretty chill. See you guys on the next one.
I am.
#CarbUpOrShutUp
#GoFruitYourself
>>671639165
I don't think nature dictates this gorilla to eat meat.
>>671638566
First, you need to understand how you can make yourself immortal.
See the trees that branch out and create a single organism capable of thriving for a millenium. Lobsters, certain bacteria, there's other animals that don't age but die of other causes.
Synapses control your memory and personality, fine a way to document, repair, and maintain synapses and your mind can be eternal
good luck
Because fucking bacon thats why
>>671639109
I have done research on nutrition.
There are as many studies saying eating no meat is bad for your body as there are studies saying the opposite.
You are using confirmation bias of sources confirming your own opinion on the matter that you do not need meat in the same way I am using it to argue that you do need meat to be healthy.
There is no conclusive evidence on the matter. You simply cannot say that not eating meat will be 100% healthy for 100% of people.
>>671638989
Plants absolutely feel pain, just not in the way you've been taught. The hypocrisy here is that you can only see 'pain' in the way that you experience pain, which suggests you lack empathy. Everything on earth that is alive has some sort of way to experience distress. You can either accept that as a fact of life, or feign ignorance and superiority when confronted with it. For you to exist, other things must die.
>>671639004
I am not sure. I want to say part of a kidney, maybe? We went pretty HAM with the knife when removing the entrails, so it could be anything.
>>671629553
For the same reason I'm not a virgin
>>671639589
But you CAN say that humanity would have never developed larger brains without consuming cooked meat. GG vegan fags.
>>671639452
wow I get what you're trying to say but wow..
Maybe they don't teach biology till 10th grade so it'll be a couple years before you learn about this.
I would encourage you to get a headstart on your peers and look up the function of those teeth on a gorilla. How does a gorilla use them? How does it differ from the way a Tiger uses them?
>>671629553
Because I dont think I should restrict my diet based on some stupid dogma or feelings. You need rich diet to be healthy, develop and in long term to evolve.
I try to be responsible when it comes to meat because I am aware of negatives of meat industry, so I only eat poultry, beef and fish, twice a week. Usually i try to find local sources with better standards of production.
Vegans are just too radical for no good reason. You can have your cake and eat it too, you know.
>>671639744
/thread
Because I like the taste of meat. Plain and simple.
>>671629553
Because to me, vegans ARE food... lower on the food chain.
Because it's fucking stupid and against all human nature.
Save the furry things, kill yourselves. Crazy nonsense.
Follow me on normiegram
>>671639326
That actually looks pretty good.
>>671639166
You seem really mad that i think immortality is good.
Are you like some butthurt vampire or something?
>>671639589
When meat is proven to increase heart disease, cancer, diabetes, and all cause mortality risk then I can say that it is unhealthy. Is breathing in asbestos in moderation okay? What about smoking cigarettes in moderation?
>>671639681
Where is your proof that plants feel pain? You're just making shit up.
>>671629553
I'm allergic to soy, mushrooms, have had some bad experience eating carrots and spinach as well.
Meat, Fish, Eggs and Milk are pretty much my two favourite things in food. I try getting what I lack in nutrition from fruit.
>>671640116
Nope you are just displaying how unintelligent you are. You are like a child who is given the option to only eat pizza every day for every meal. Of course most kids would LOVE the IDEA of this but in reality after about a week that kid would be begging for anything but pizza. You are just too stupid to see and understand this concept.
>>671639793
But that's exactly the point. Someone said our teeth dictate what we eat. I showed a gorilla with big sharp teeth to show that's not right. How did you not get that?
As a Vegan if you're doing it for any reason other than your own health you have already fucked up.
I have no respect for peta due to the fact that I find their methods distasteful.
We can't save the animals because people will continue to kill them for food. Don't kid yourself the world isn't going to go veg over night.
We can't save the planet because the capitalist system is good to those who are playing the game. Why would they stop building? Why would they stop making money? Just because of some trees?? No way.
We can save ourselves from diet related diseases and poor health. Especially in America.
That's basically all its about.
>>671640303
Here's a 2 second google for you.
http://www.smithsonianchannel.com/videos/do-plants-respond-to-pain/12151
>>671640138
Meat is not "proven" to do any of those things.
There are studies suggesting it "might" do these things when consuming PROCESSED meats in high quantities over long periods of time.
You know what else can cause cancer, h eart disease, and mortality risk? Eating certain fruits or vegetables in high quantities for long periods of time. Look at how Steve Jobs got cancer for fuck sake. It sure as hell wasn't from meat.
Also, asbestos and cigarettes aren't a food.
>>671640510
The world won't be vegan overnight, but it will be vegan eventually. Just because we can't fix it quickly, doesn't mean we should do nothing about it. Change happens slowly. Have some sense of responsibility.
>>671640138
>prove to increase it
>increase
Yeah it doesn't 100% anybody dipshit. and all of those diseases are pretty manageable with modern technology anyway. You aren't going to get cancer from one puff of a cigarette.
Why don't you Veg fags every admit that you just have a hard on for animals. admit that you're a bunch of animal loving overly emotional pussies, so we can all laugh at your gay little fad while we eat red meat and actually have energy throughout the day and grow thick hair and fingernails.
>>671629553
Because I like meat, and also because I don't give a fuck about your opinion.
The world won't go vegan at all, ever. By the time the bombs drop or other shenanigans.
You vegans will ether be forced to hunt or starve, or be on the menu.
That's truth.
>>671640722
>>671639744
You're not a vegan because you got raped in jail?
>>671640394
Seriously why are you so mad. it's one fucking opinion, grow up.
Pizza everyday is a TERRIBLE analogy retard. if you have immortality, you can do something different and exciting everyday, no care in the world.
like i said, you're a butthurt vampire, because nobody has ever lived for more than 150 years and you pretending like you have and it's terrible.
>>671636163
im trying to remember if this was some anthony bourdain episode or some shit on bbqing on the food network
>news flash your all faggots
>thinking vegan food is shit tier but never eaten or cooked anything vegan.
>thinking there's a dietary requirement for meat.
>thinking not being vegan and eating meat makes you any less of a pussy.
>thinking you are morally superior because you're vegan.
>thinking that by not eating meat or animal products your not still directly and indirectly responsible for the displacement and deaths of animals all the time.
>food mostly consists of replicating foods made with the products you say you don't want to eat.
/end rant
>>671629553
Animals that only eat grass / plants have more stomachs than me - they NEED to have more stomachs to get all the energy from green food.
And while I could eat nuts that are richer in energy - but I am allergic to nuts
>>671641149
my lord you are stupid. I hope you do get to live forever. lmfao.
