Does /b/ know how to drive with clutch/manual stick?
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Does /b/ know how to drive with clutch/manual stick?
do you know how to use a slide ruler?
>>671515691
Even if you don't own/drive one, how does one get to adulthood without learning the basics?
>>671516043
>America
>>671515691
Pointless unless on a motorcycle or similar
>>671516043
Dude i knew an engineer who didnt know how to use a lighter. Weird shit man
>>671515691
Yeah
>>671516694
Where i live, all cars have sticks.. so not so pointless as you might think..
Everyone in the U.K. Knows.
>>671515691
Clutch down, change to first, lift off clutch slowly, add pressure to gas, get to about 10mph lift off gas, clutch in, change to second and so on..
>>671517275
The theory is always easy bubba. I'd like to see you do it in practice.
>>671517275
Easy to say
Amerifags are the only ones who don't know how. Also amerifag here and it's sad how many people don't know. I own a standard car tho, way better in my opinion. You have a lot more control over the car
>>671517275
Nice try faggot but if you knew how to drive one youd know to put pressure on the gas as your lifting off the clutch Not after. Getting out of first is the hard part once you're moving it's easy
>>671517374
This. But I guess most people don't care.
>>671517374
Don't worry, plenty of Australians wouldn't have a fucking clue, 90odd% of the cars sold here are auto, probably higher.
Something liek dis >>671517275
>>671515691
of course
I've owned 6 manual cars and a motorcycle
while I've only owned 1 automatic car and an automatic moped
>>671517374
Canada-fag here, much like our Amerifag neighbors most people here don't drive stick.
Also own a manual car, and generally only car enthusiasts bother learn how to drive stick here. I prefer stick -- there's nothing more rewarding than a tight, technical back road that requires the driver to really work for it.
>>671517374
I agree. More control and you can shift at desired rpm, before redline of course, thus getting more power out of car vs shitty auto transmission which shifts for you.
>>671515691
I do but they're fucking stupid. Superior technology has made these cars obsolete.
>>671515691
Mostly Americans don't know how to drive manual cars.
I live in Europe. Driving clutch is standard here. But in todays traffix you're much better of with an automatic. Having a clutch just makes driving complicated, and yeah there are some things that you can do with a clutch that you can't do with an automatic, but i don't give a fuck about those things.
Automatic ftw if you're just a casual driver.
>>671517821
>this is what americans actually believe
why are racecars manual?
>>671515691
Just gonna assume you're an Amerifag OP.. Most countries I've been to manual is the default..
>>671515691
I can drive a manual without syncro
Yeah, but I hate doing it. I prefer to zone out when I drive.
>>671517931
>Automatic ftw if you're just a casual driver.
I think you've summed it up nicely, automatic cars are like microwaves.
>>671518139
Easy to use and useful?
You're a cuck if you can't drive manual. Ask me anything
>>671518355
What's it like using the most overused word on this website?
>>671515691
as a britbong I find it easy.
push down the gearomaticdisconnect pedal, move the spinny selector lever into one, lift gearomaticdisconnect pedal while pushing down on the petroljuicinator pedal. Simple.
>>671518247
Yep, add to that not particularly desirable if you actually like cooking/driving and produce inferior results in most enthusiast applications. Another one would be a sound bar compared to a decent stereo.
>>671517975
Nobody drives a racecar on an actual road. You fags always talk about "more control" but what the fuck does that even mean? And why does it matter? I like having one less thing to think about and a free hand. Let the fucking car run itself.
>>671518449
Meh, it's decent
What is it like being a cuck?
>>671518355
Why have you got dubs and I haven't?
>>671518611
I wouldn't know, try asking your "dad".
>>671515691
Yup. First truck I ever drove was a 68' Ford with 3 on the tree.
>>671518667
zing welcome to the 1980s
>>671515691
Of course, I'm from UK.
There's no other way.
>>671518715
Nigger, get yourself a ten speed
>>671517108
underdeveloped county
>>671515691
>Does /b/ know how to drive with clutch/manual stick?
Of course.
>>671518555
Check'd and kek'd
>>671518596
Drop a gear for more engine breaking, throw it in to a higher gear earlier to save money, drop a gear to over take quicker, any time wheel spins, easy drifting, use your fucking head mate, this thread is stupid, all of you are stupid.
>>671515691
Clutch kick, Never lift
>>671519042
Enjoy burning your clutch
I drive home half asleep with manual and some how make it home without realizing it
>>671519006
>trying to drift
You talk about saving pennies on gas, but you'll spend hundreds on new tires. Fuck off.
I can drive manual, currently own an auto. I'd only bother getting a standard if I was getting something I'd take to a track. For daily driving, fuck right off, auto wins out.
Only need clutch for taking off from a stop and reverse. Rest of time you shift at right rpm and no clutch needed.
Amerifag here. I prefer standard to automatic. My son, who will soon be 16, has to learn to drive it, and must pass his driver's exam in it. He can choose whatever type he prefers when he gets his first car, but I believe that it's imperative to know how to operate a standard.
Also, taught my wife how to drive a standard. She won't own an automatic anymore.
course I do
automatics are for women, no self respecting man would drive an automatic
>>671515691
Amerifag reporting in. Drove manual Toyota pickup for ten years, Before that, ancient VW with synchro-mesh manual. Loved 'em both. Better control and gas mileage if you know what you're doing.
>>671519317
You fucking what m9? They were examples of what you could do; nowhere did I say to do them both at the same time.
Do you want a blue peter badge?
>>671519317
In terms of laziness yes, pennies - no
>>671519006
>Drop a gear for more engine breaking
That's not engine breaking
>throw it in to a higher gear earlier to save money
Automatics do this efficiently
>drop a gear to over take quicker
Automatic kick down
>any time wheel spins, easy drifting
lol
>use your fucking head
full kek mode
The only reason I'd like a manual car is because I'm in heavy traffic every day and get stuck in jams multiple times a week.
At all the other times, manual cars gives driving satisfaction, you're actually driving rather than moving.
>>671519453
thats muh nigga.
>>671519536
>Automatics do this efficiently
Hydraulic automatics are never efficient.
>>671517353
easy to do
>>671515691
Yes, but I don't know how to drive an automatic
>>671519527
Considering a manual costs more on most models nowadays, you'd have to be saving lots to warrant that price in my book.
Again though, only for daily commutes. In cars that are actually fun to drive, definitely get a standard.
I drive a '00 toyota echo because it's hard to find something cheaper. 40k miles atm.
>>671519536
>>>671519006 (You)
>>Drop a gear for more engine breaking
>That's not engine breaking
Yes it is
>>throw it in to a higher gear earlier to save money
>Automatics do this efficiently
Do they shit
>>drop a gear to over take quicker
>Automatic kick down
U wot, automatic kick its head in
>>any time wheel spins, easy drifting
>lol
Lel fag
>>use your fucking head
>full kek mode
Clearly no head on you
>>671519715
lol
>>671519784
Heh, you live in a funny country, autos where I live are offered for the same price as a special deal, other than they they're a cost option.
Automatics are for cripples.
And manuals that cut the throttle when the brakes are applied are for faggots.
I know how, but don't do it anymore.
Manuals are for poor people in undeveloped countries.
Currently driving a 7-speed dual clutch
>>671519715
Yes you do, you've just never done it. It's like driving a manual but you don't have to change gears. It's superior in every way. It's like if your dog could take itself out to shit. There's no reason why that extra chore would be missed.
>>671519453
Not just women though, theyre for gays and the disabled too.
Foot on brake, take off parking brake off ,clutch in, Rev car to 6k, put in 1st then dump clutch.
Burn rubber going down the street.
>>671515691
my current car that i bought with my own money is a manual and i live in USA. 04 nis sentra 1.8s
>>671520064
Enjoy that when it fails, does it also have stop/start?
automatics are inherently effeminate
Automatics feel vague as fuck. Driven a couple in the last few years, and you really feel the disconnect between the throttle pedal and the wheels. Even driving in first gear, it's just mush. Can barely shift the weight around in them.
Automatics are for car people, not driving people.
>>671517374
Finfag here. Here mainly women and old men drive automatic cars. Young people mainly drive the stick because of more control, less expensive and less chance of breaking. Those automatic piece-of-shit-gearboxes are expensive as fuck to repair.
Quality German cars have better automatic gearboxes but god damn those french shitboxes die at 200K km+
>>671519878
>Yes it is
No it isn't, engine braking is created by the compression effects in the cylinders. Changing down a gear has a braking effect, but it's not engine braking.
I knew how to drive manual since i was 12 amerifags
>inb4 mods
Im 23
>>671520283
10yr warranty. dont give a fuck
>>671520521
changing down a gear means your engine does more revs over the same distance, ie more compression cycles, more braking effect
>>671520610
>warranty
>>671520317
this.
modern science shows driving automatics increased the desire for pastel shades and reduces the urge to fight in men.
>>671520317
They have feminine gear levers
>>671519969
The US is definitely a funny country.
>>671520392
>Quality German cars have better automatic gearboxes but god damn those french shitboxes die at 200K km+
Shame about the rest of the cars then, German cars, particularly Mercedes are prolific in the workshop I work at.
>>671515691
Dont you mean " Does be know how to drive?"
>>671520521
You sound American. Stick to your retardmobiles
>>671520521
Come on now mate, just stop.
>>671520903
if you're hearing anything retarded that's the voice in your head.
>>671520982
He's not used to have a car where the engine is connected directly to a gearbox
>>671520521
zmao
why even bother posting when you dont understand how cars work
>>671521029
>>671517690
Moped isn't anywhere close to an automatic, it's a variable ratio drive and a centrifugal clutch.
>>671515835
Underrated post
>>671521029
Yeah, I read your post on engine braking in my best American accent, and it did sound retarded.
Yes, I do
>>671521238
>>671521273
>>671520700
http://formula1-dictionary.net/engine_braking.html
>>671515691
Yes I do
>Only losers can't drive stick
>>671518555
Underated
Yes I can drive a manual.
Semi automatic for the fucking win though. All the joy of having manual control but none of the ballache when you're stuck in traffic.
>>671515691
Yes, drove one for years.
I still have a suzuki samurai that's fun as hell.
My current care is automatic, but I really miss driving a stick.
>>671521197
that'll be the quality of the performer, it's always going to sound retarded
>>671521295
and where's your manual transmission then, faggot??
>>671517330
its easy as shit, its harder to describe it, than doing it
>>671517275
To add to this. The biggest obstacle when teaching someone to drive manual is finding the friction point quickly and how much gas to give while upshifting.
While stopped keep the brake on and slowly life off just the clutch slowly until you see the rpms dip down slightly then hold the clutch right there. If you hold it and release the brake you will go forward. Tell someone who's learning to drive, that's the exact point where you should be releasing the clutch completely and have the gas pushed in. That's where you do your switch from all gas to clutch.
I tried for months learning with a parent how to drive stick and failed. It took one lesson with the dmv drivers ed teacher to figure this out and within a week or two I had a manual shift 1987 BMW 325 and I fucking loved that as my first car. Also from America shit was so cash.
Kinda, never have though. I have a good understanding of how it works, all I'd have to do is jump in a car with a manual transmission and go for it. Worst case scenario is I break something thats going to cost a lot of time time and money in repairs, not necessarily on the car either.
In Finland if you get your drivers license on an automatic car, you aren't permitted to drive a stick.
Most of the 18year old females can't drive a stick, and almost all of the 18year old males can.
>>671516694
you are a fucking moron please die along with all who share your opinion
>>671521305
thanks for confirming what I said with your link
>>671521592
same here. theres a lower tier, special needs version of the driving test for people who dont have the coordination to drive a manual
>>671517527
You can definitely get it to catch fine in the friction zone with no gas. Just like a motorcycle. Yeah its difficult, but if you do it slow enough its possible.
manual transmission is pretty cool guy, doesnt afraid of anything
niggers you don't even know about external linkages. except for the one guy who knows about 3 on the tree
driving automatic is boring as fuck. but its better if there is a traffic jam.
i just want the gears to shift when i decide to, and not when the car decides to.
You're a retard if you can't drive a manual car.
I drive manual transmission vehicles for personal and pleasure, and automatics at work and for luxury long distance travelling.
If you can't drive a manual because you're too retarded to understand how a clutch works, try riding a motorbike, you'll get to grips on how a clutch works very quickly and you'll find it so easy.
I like to race manuals, where as you can't race an automatic.
>>671521959
You're actually suppose to do it like this at Red lights. Like professional teachers tell you to do it like that every time. No gas, release slowly to friction point at Red light etc. etc.
>>671517766
Tiptronic is the way to go
>>671522146
I had one when I lived on Oahu, Hawaii. 50/50 best/worst decision of my life. It was great unless I was driving to, from, or pastpearl harbor or Honolulu during rush hour. Not many people know how bad their traffic can get on 2 of their 3 express ways.
in this thread, inbred amerifatcunts call a gear stick "stick" because they don't know what it does or what it's for besides for shoving up their ass as they are retarded.
if you drive an automatic you're a fucking retard.
>>671522357
Are you? I was always weary of doing it because I was always told that that's how you wear out your clutch. Even when I took a motorcycle riders class to learn that, they told me about the friction zone and how on bikes it's made to be used constantly unlike in cars where you really want to avoid it.
Yes. My current vehicle has manual transmission
Who dont? Driving a manual car is a "special ability"?
>>671522479
I drive an automatic because sticks are fucking annoying. Yeah they're more fun occasionally, but doing the grind every morning shit just gets old. I don't want to have fun at 8am I want to have my coffee in the car otw to work not worry about gears and what to properly call a gear box or whatever you're saying
>>671522613
Terrible advice. Sitting at a red with your clutch dragging is only going to wear it out.
Honestly when you are changing the oil to a stick shift car, not many people know this, but if you put a little bit of bleach and ammonia in when you are changing the oil it makes the car drive so much smoother. For some reason this only seems to work with stick shift cars.
>>671522372
No. Just no. Driving tiptronic is like having sex with a lifelike sex doll. You can pretend your having sex, but you're really not. Also the lack of a clutch makes me feel like I'm pretending to drive standard using a water bottle in my cup holder as the shift knob.
>>671522613
you've been lied to.
Every clutch works this way. On a motorbike and on a car, you don't want to sit riding the "biting zone" of the clutch plates, the "friction zone" as you call it, because you wear out a clutch doing this.
In a motorbike you can change gear fast to avoid riding that zone, the same goes for a car, you just have to not apply any throttle while you're releasing the clutch which pushes the plates back together to engage your engine to your wheels.
>>671522845
On bikes or cars?
>>671522613
Getting to that point doesn't wear it down. At least that's what I was told. Maybe research a bit before doing it all the time, but I was under the impression grinding gears and doing shit to the clutch while moving is what wore it down.
>>671522479
>said by the faggot driving a 0.8L diesel shitbox
No matter what transmission you ha e, everyone is still laughing at you.
Only a faggot would want to make driving unnecessarily complicated like that.
>>671515691
I can't speak for /b/
All I know is I can.
>>671523070
Only a faggot would think driving a manual is hard.
>>671523012
Both, there's no difference.
>>671522827
they are called gear sticks, not sticks, you fucking inbred retard.
and they aren't fun occasionally, they're fun to use all the time as you control the power.
If your daily commute is hundreds of miles then you have every right to prefer an automatic, especially if you have to travel in very congested areas with lots of stop start traffic which helps wear clutch plates out faster.
Otherwise, if not, you're just a lazy fucker with more money than sense as automatics cost more, are less eco-efficient, and well your repair bills are twice that of a manual because of the advanced automatic transmission.
>>671523160
What are your credentials?
>>671523204
>I saved $5 on my bill
Worth all the extra effort.
>>671523146
Many reports of people trying to steal cars and not even being able to get it to start because of the clutch safety switch.
I've driven manual since I first started. Don't plan on stopping.
>easier to maintain a manual
>lighter due to not needing many fluid paths,solenoids and shit like that
>better overall control of the vehicals
>engine braking
>more control on undesirable conditions.
>>671523237
I'm not a fucking moron who can't understand why letting your clutch drag would make it wear out faster
>>671523378
>Clutch safety switch
You've never driven a manual, have you?
>>671515691
Obviously.
This thread should have been /threaded by now.
>>671523012
you're retarded if you think theres a difference between bikes and cars when it comes to a clutch.
It's the same piece of technology, you use a lever or a pedal to disengage your clutch system.
If you sit at red lights or any area on a motorbike or in a car with your clutch disengaged, you'll wear out the mechanical cable very quickly, and when you come to actually re-engage the clutch, you'll notice it gets worse over time.
i dont drive a 0.8l diesel shitbox, i ride a 750cc Suzuki GSXR 2013 motorbike, and i drive a Peugeot 205 GTI 1.9LTR
you're a fucking retard :D
>>671515691
I learned how to drive stick when I was fucking 8. it's nothing special and I prefer automatic. cunts that get stick on "muh skill" and think they're somehow superior need to get fucked
>>671523060
i dont drive a 0.8l diesel shitbox, i ride a 750cc Suzuki GSXR 2013 motorbike, and i drive a Peugeot 205 GTI 1.9LTR
you're a fucking retard :D
>>671523448
Are you fucking serious?
>go find a manual car
>turn the key to start
Nothing happened?
>try it now the the clutch pressed in
Viola it started.but why?
On many, most likely not older models, there is a button switch that rades on the arm of the clutch pedal. When the clutch isn't pressed in this switch prevents the vehicals from being started. It's a safety feature. You must be fucking kidding me right?
>>671523204
Commute is about 15 mins and will always drive auto. Automatics are also more fun and eco-friendly. I can also fap otw the work with all the extra hands and feet I have while not driving stick.
Your preference isn't objective. I agree when people say morons don't know how to drive stick, we'll the ones who've tried to learn and fail. But most us amerifats could learn we just would rather be able to do other shit with our right hands and not worry about it. I drove a stick for almost 10 years while younger and still prefer automatic.
>>671523448
You have to depress the clutch in most manuals to start the engine..... Unless you by passed the clutch safety switch.
>>671523395
If you make it drag while moving and the wheels are spinning inside it will. If you're at a full stop and get to the friction point, it's not wearing anything out.
>>671523549
you learned to drive at an illegal age, yet you don't drive a manual because you're so fucking inbred you failed to pass your test and thus could only pass while driving an autotragic vehicle, and thus you whine about people saying you have no skill, when infact you have no skill, any idiot can drive an automatic.
everyone who passes their driving test in a manual, can automatically drive an automatic.
It's not the other way around, and so, you're a skill-less parasite who sucks
>>671523676
The only cars I've ever seen work like this are BMW and Merc with push button start.
Every turn key car I've ever had has started without the clutch in.
>>671515691
Yes, my first car. But I'm not a poorfag and can afford the $2000 auto option.
>>671523841
You're a fucking idiot.
Manual cars are the best cars
Yes, I have a 95' 5.0. I also Rev match.
>>671523676
im not the guy you replied to.
ive never seen or heard of the thing you spoke of.
me and basically everything i know drives manual
>>671523841
It's not a wheel persay.
This of the clutch as the same thing as the brakes on your car. There is a metal disc (the pressure disc) and a friction material bonded to another disc.
They will wear out similar to brakes, but most of the time at different rates.
>>671523676
If you leave a car in gear, you can't start the fucking engine, that's why you park cars in neutral on flats, in gear on hills, and you start them in neutral.
if you try to start a car or motorbike in gear, you'll lurch forward and stall unless it's a newer generation vehicle then it will just start fine.
>>671521959
I concur, but then again, i have a car that can keep on moving when you not-so-slowly release clutch with no gas. and then i had a heavier shit with only slightly bigger engine and twas almost impossible without gas... (first car was 1.3 litre 50kw in 700 kilos, and the second one was 1.5 70-something for almost two tons. both petrol)
>>671523885
What happens if you forget to take it out of gear before pressing the start button? Will the computer turn off the car?
>>671523715
automatics are not eco-friendly you retard....
you're fucking braindead.
And it's not called stick, its' called a manual transmission which has a clutch and a gear stick, you fucking stupid yank cunt, go kill yourself.
>>671523885
My 1983 Honda crx had a clutch safety switch. Along with my 03 lancer, and my current car an 01 accord.
I have also driven an 80s Dodge omni, Chevy aveo, civic, corolla, and my father's old firebird.
All had a clutch safety switch o them. It's not a high class feature.
>>671523841
Seriously, just think about how a clutch works and what you're saying.
If you're at the friction point but not moving, you've one surface spinning against a surface that's totally still. One of those surfaces is going to wear out.
>>671524083
Not when you have the clutched pulled in. Holy fuck is everyone here retarded.?
>>671515691
Britfag here - the only people here who drive cars with auto transmission are disabled.
>>671524243
Really not much difference between autos and manuals any more. Hell, CVT's beat both.
![20151104_144840[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/OX6Yr3Z.jpg "20151104_144840[1].jpg")
>>671523851
>hurr durr i'm a retard
illegal age? what illegal age you retard? there's no age limit or minimum for learning how to drive. there's this magical little fucking thing in the land of the free called PRIVATE PROPERTY where you can do just about whatever the skip diddily fuck you want without any licenses or other requirements nigger. I don't drive a manual because it's fucking obnoxious and unnecessary and I don't love the smell of my own farts
Pic related is my C65 dump truck. what the fuck do you drive pleb ass nigger?
>>671515691
Amerifag here who knows how to drive stick and currently is driving stick
>>671524243
It's called Standard, you slut
>>671524311
Maybe it's a US thing, but definitely not here in the UK.
99% of cars here you can start them with the clutch up, in gear.
>>671523939
>>671524065
Every time you switch gears while driving, you put the same amount of "wear" on your clutch if you were to get to the friction point at a red light. Its the same thing. It's actually more efficient because if you go from an all stop while in the friction point, your clutch is at the optimal point for you to start moving,so you don't have to release it more stop to 1st gear speed.
>>671524465
I just want to say. I had to drive one of these for work once. And it has the most God awefully stiff and bitey clutch on anything I've ever driven, this even beats a powerwagon.
>>671515691
yes, I was taught when I was 13 so I could drive them on the horse breeding/training farm,
I also lost my virginity to the bosses daughter around the back turn.
it was a good week.
>>671524439
Only second world countries are dominated by manuals.
Used to drive SCCA and SVRA. RHD tr4airs. Amerifag here. Most people don't even know how to drive a stick correcrly.
>>671524536
Sitting for a minute with it at the friction point then lifting to get moving creates less wear than sitting with it disengaged for a minute and then lifting to get moving? Get the fuck out of here.
>>671524600
yeah it's not great. I only use it to move hay these days. haven't moved any real big loads like sand/gravel in a long time.
>>671524536
You do know you don't even need to use your clutch once you get moving right?
>>671515835
Yes. Its a good visual representation of how mathematical concepts work.
>>671524536
When you change gears you have two surfaces spinning at roughly similar speeds, so the wear is actually pretty minimal as the two come together.
At a red light, you have one surface moving and one completely still.
>>671515691
yes.
Because I'm older, manuals are cheaper, and they're fun to drive.
Small and sporty. And no one borrows my care because it has 3 pedals instead of 2.
>>671524690
The only noticeable thing is when it's under a really heavy load (we were moving heaping loads of gravel) the clutch felt more natural. Most likely how it was designed anyways
>>671523357
>implying fixing transmission is 5 dollar business
Fucking kill yourself
>>671515691
Yes, I'm not a faggot.
>>671524684
Yes because if you sit with it fully disengaged you have to full engage it anyway if you want to get moving. You're essentially putting it at that point anyway every time you go from a stop to moving the car. See what Im saying?if you move the clutch around up and down in that point while stopped at a red,then I agree with you it would be more wear but if u get there and hold it still it's less and more efficient because you have to do it to move
>>671515691
The only automatic i've ever driven was a GTR and a 458 and i still shifted them manually. Currently daily a 370z that can even rev-march for me.
>>671518555
underrated and checked
>>671524983
You really are not thinking this through.
Sitting with clutch disengaged and then bringing it to the friction point for a matter of seconds on the way to bringing it fully up is going to create way less wear than holding it at the friction point for a minute or two.
>>671517275
Clutch down, change to first, rev up to 6000rpm, move your cluch feet to the side.
Looks mom, i can drive!
>>671524632
So literally everywhere in the world, except the US.
Work the shaft faggot.
>>671524983
Here.
https://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071210005831AABqEbr
>>671525258
Superior 'murican V8 motors cant even rev to 6k bruh
>>671524723
plebian, i use an abacus
>>671525537
>Implying the two are in any way comparable
>>671518715
Trucks are not that hard.
>>671525537
If we'd had free abacuses (abacusi?) in HS I might have learned that, too. But the slide rules were all donated so you could get one for free, it was a nice way to learn how to do logs and things.
>>671523631
Oh wow a whole 1.9L piece of shit. What an engine.
>>671517569
I got me a 5 speed ferd ranger that I drive everywhere and I'm an Amerifat so go fuck your self!
>>671525508
Fuck, forget that, my 1998 stock Ford Escort can do that, kek.
Third word fag here.
>>671525654
>>671525696
hello new friends.
i>>671518135
I drive stick only
I am so used to it I dont even realize im shifting
>>671525841
I was joking. Still, they make max torque at 2000-3000 rpm and max hp at 3500-4000, there is no point shifting them at 6k. I like my V8s with a flatplane and atleast 32v.
How can some americans even think driving manual is difficult?
>Oh shit, 3rd pedal wat is that for?
You are not actually driving the car unless it´s manual.
>>671515691
Course, did my test in one
>>671516354
Do you know how to reload your own bullets, faggot?
>Not American
>>671515691
everyone in the uk above the age of 16,
shit my nan let me learn to drive her car at 12 in out of the way car parks, are you autistic op?
>>671526187
Sure mate, joking too, you dont need high rpm to get some nice hp.
>>671517374
This is getting to he pretty false. Yeah if you're driving a shitty car, you get shitty autos. But any car built for performance in today's age, has an automatic transmission that gives you just as much control, that you will never be able to out perform. I will say, that did not stop me from buying a manual because they're just fun. Nothing beats banging gears.
>that first time you 'roo' down the road
>>671526332
Yes, i do own a gun and know how it works.
>And no, i am not american
>>671518803
You can do your test and drive normally in an automatic, y'know.
>>671526332
>>671526534
get told Amerifag
>>671520521
>engine braking created by compression effects
>literally increasing compression by downshifting
you.
fucking.
wot.
m8.
I live in South Carolina. It's like, a requirement for living here.
>>671517527
What he described is the best way to do it. If you give it gas before it starts to catch, you are increasing the amount of wear endured. For longevity, you should only apply enough throttle to the keep the car from stalling until the clutch is fully engaged.
>>671517975
Most racecars have triptronic transmissions, when allowed, which are technically atuomatics. The race cars that have manual trans are because if rules.
Eurofag here. Strange as it sounds, I don't know how to drive automatic.
>>671526492
It's all about how you like your power mate. Amerrican V8s, as outdated as they are, are a fucking godsent when you're just cruising. I just like the smooth, screaming flatplane engines that make your ears bleed while you're about to jizz yourself as you hit redline.
>>671517975
This guy thinks clicking a paddle is the same as driving a manual!
No reason you can't select the gear you want in any automatic transmission. The only thing it won't do is shift sooner than it is designed to.
Or accidentally downshift into 2nd gear at 100. I love to see manual fags do that.
BTW. I have several of both. I prefer auto in most cases. But I do like the manual in my plow truck because it is fucking bulletproof in that application, but not as convenient as auto. The constant back and forth kills auto boxes though.
>>671518596
I do. Never know when a street race is going to happen. H-tine hol it dine
>>671527144
Not exactly. Tiptronic is what VW calls their paddle shifted automatics. These are true automatics, as in torque converter slushbox. I can't think of any race cars that actually use these off the top of my head, most are either sequential manuals, or twin clutch designs, not slushboxes.
>>671518596
>Nobody drives a racecar on an actual road.
>implying i dont
853 street legal horses m80, it even meets fucking emission standards, come and stop me
>>671519784
I think you're misguided. While autos are considered standard, and manuals are an option, that option will reduce the price most of the time.
>>671526534
You know how the firearm operates. Now reload the cartridge itself, faggot.
I know you can't.
>>671515691
I'm italian, of course I know
>>671524465
>I drive a fucking dump truck
Are you the tiny-penis-so-i-drive-a-hummer guy's dad
automatics are the Internet explorer of cars
>>671515691
Yeah you just select d
>>671527943
Post dyno sheet with timestamp or fuck off
>>671528294
Why isn't anyone picking on the CVT auto? The red headed stepchild of autos.
Those transmissions are the most soulless thing in the universe. Even when they try to make them act like a sequential.
>>671525739
> implying all the countries in the world have the same petrol price
> implying murica is not causing wars to make your fat ass moveable under a 6000cc engine
>>671528714
>mad your insurance on your shopping cart is more than I've spent on gas in the past 5 years
>>671515691
Any one who thinks something as simple as using a manual transmission is some kind of sign of manhood has to be some retarded 12 year old autistic eurofag on crack.
CVT ftw, automatics have been superior for decades in every way
the reason they use manual for racing is it would be cheating, not because it's superior, to keep things 'fair'
there's no reason to manual except overcompensation for a tiny dick and trying to feel superior or even relevant
if you like it's that's fine, have fun with it, but you have to know there's zero reason for manually shifting
>>671524439
I drive an auto because it's cheap, and my parents own a jeep for towing a horsebox. I can drive manual though.
>>671529181
>no reason for manual
>said by the Prius driver
>>671518596
Downshifting is nice in snowy weather
>>671529181
Might be different in the US because of your long history with automatics, but where I live you pay an extra ~2k euro or so for automatic if you're buying a new car. I don't have anything against automatic, in fact I prefer it, but it's not worth that kind of money.
>>671523528
Definitely a difference. A car weighs more than a bike. So while the design may be similar, it can't be the same. By your logic, it doesn't matter how much weight you have in your car, whether it's full of bricks or empty, your suspension is gonna wear out in the same time frame.
>>671515691
I drive manual. I've tried automatic and it feels wrong. When there are only automatics, I will drive an automatic.
>>671529770
maxima, company car, but idgaf, i'd take whatever,
it's sporty as fuck tho, love it
i know manual from 30 years ago, i'm sure it'd be like riding a bike, but why? there's no practical benefit
i could probably get a cow and churn my own butter too, but srsly, you people need to let go of the past
>>671527622
If its paddle shifted, and the clutch is computer controlled, it might as well be. Obviously they wouldn't be using slushboxes, but they still lack the feel.
Get a real clutch.
Pic related - its in my RX8
>>671515691
No, because it's highly antiquated for someone who doesn't drive:
A) A high-powered exotic or current muscle car
B) An old-school muscle car
C) Antiques
>>671530513
Because you're a commuter faggot that drives your boring ass appliance to your cubicle.
I do
>>671530691
D) or someone who isn't a pussy or amerifat
>>671530891
>driving a manual makes you a real man
>>671530689
Doesn't matter what clutch you have, your shitbox wankel engine will blow up regardless.
>>671530708
sounds like someones mad
also i have my own office, and i put a shitload of miles on it for meetings so it's not only the commute
>>671516694
>drive on the freeway
>horny as fuck
>really want to put something in your ass
>yfw no manual stick
not useless at all
I feel like I'm slowly losing the ability to drive bein in this thread.
Manual cars, at least any I have driven in the US, both Japanese and America, have always required the clutch to be depressed.
There is no way a motorcycle clutch and a car clutch made structurely identical when one is made to support about 500 lbs and the other is made to support at LEAST twice that.
Manual cars, at least all I have driven, can be started in gear and do NOT jerk and stall unless you remove your foot from the clutch while it is in gear.
Manual doesn't save you that much more money that automatic and it's really not that much better on gas. Gas efficiency is more depenent on your engine and aero dynamics of your car. The only reason it is kinda better on gas is because you can throw it in neutral and coast so your rpms go way down.
I drive a manual truck, far superior. auto transmission can't see how long a hill is so can't prepare itself and ends up spazzing out
dog box doesn't require clutch to change but nobody has that on the road
>>671524105
Cool. I'm just saying it does.
>>671524388
Yes. Yes they are. Nobody ever knows what they're talking about on /b/
>>671515691
Yes, learned how to when I was 20yrs old...took me about an hour to drive somewhat smoothly and without choking. Learned through a chevy cavalier
>>671531240
Sounds like someone doesn't know that there are people that enjoy driving and don't have to have a shitty CVT so they can enjoy their $20 coffee and cheap pastries while sitting in traffic.
>he only has an office
>doesn't own his own business
Like I said. You're still a faggot in a woman's car.
>>671517275
No! That leaves out the most important part. Which is THE FUCKING CAR WILL ROLL WITHOUT STALLING IN FIRST GEAR WITH THE CLUTCH HALF RELEASED. It so much easier to learn when to shift if you find the release point by gently pressing the gas AFTER the car starts rolling.
>>671532038
wow, so mad he's even avoided the part where i endorse people who enjoy driving manual,
my key point was that it's inferior to automatic in every practical way
but opinion and choice is all fair game, and have fun with that
also it's an EXCELLENT cvt, and i make my own coffee, and i don't like food in the car(cleaning is included in the agreement, i just don't like it
and while i don't believe for a second you own a business, if you do good for you
i've never been that uppity
1. find friction point(at what point clutch is connecting motor and wheels through gearbox)
2. depress clutch
3. select 1st gear
4. maintain revs around 2-3k
5. when releasing clutch pedal u will feel motor and drive shaft sandwiching.
6. apply more gas for more power
note: the less revs u manage to handle while take off without LUGGING the motor, the cooler u are!
rev matching is easy too
1. whilst driving
2. depress clutch pedal
3. select desired gear i.e 6th to 1st
4. control the revs with throttle and note that the lower the gear the higher revs required to maintain same speed
5. release clutch and hopefully u have a smooth gear change!
>>671517275
boring!!
clutch down, change to first, foot half on gas, foot off clutch and gas to the floor as wheels bite
yes, i'm not amreifat
>>671528161
I really only reload the expensive rounds. .44 magnum especially.
>>671533182
Kek. Keep thinking I'm mad boomer. I'm actually happy that people like you exist, it's why foreclosure auctions and estate buyouts are such fun ;^).
>uppity
How old are you to even be saying this?
>>671515691
You don't get a license here, if you don't know.
