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Captain Janeway is a dumb bitch.

>be Janeway
>go out on three week mission
>somehow fuck up so badly end up in the Delta Quadrant, on the other side of the galaxy
>violate the temporal and prime directive over 9k times per episode
>murders one of her own crewman
>encounters borg
>collaborates with borg
>kidnaps a borg
>forces borg to seperate from the collective
>when she gets home instead of being tried for her war crimes she gets promoted to Admiral cause daddy is one too

inb4 prime directive doesn't matter because Delta Quadrant

Also

TNG>DS9>VOY>TOS>ENT

prove me wrong.
>pro tip inc
>you can't
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>>671384387
No that's pretty right actually, but imo

TNG>TOS>ENT>VOY>DS9
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>>671384387
Jesus Christ you could not be more of a major fucking neckbeard nerd if you tried...
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this is now a Neelix thread
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ENT was fairly fun. They should have just laid off all that time travel shit, and maybe focused more on the Klingons & Romulans. However I liked that they at least tried to introduce some new species and enemies, instead of just rehasing the same old ones.
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>>671384646
tos aged too badly, tng still has its flair even when watched today

i was watching a tng episode at a boring family event thing and one of the 7 year olds yelled out "hes holding an ipad"

i gave his parents the death stare, and they made him apologise, but still.
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>>671384914
Why didn't they kill this cunt off at the drawing table. Both him and his idiot girlfriend.
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>>671384646
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>>671385055
checked but neelix ruined every scene he was in
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you think neelix was bad? try icheb. hwill hweaton reloaded.
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>>671385537
The premise seems sounds, but I can't remember if the execution was dumb or not. However I don't see why the Borg wouldn't just aritificially age children until they can become proper drones.
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TNG > VOY > ENT > TOS > DS9 > TAS
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>>671385743
>can't remember if the execution was dumb or no

it was Voyager, of course it was fucking dumb as shit
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>>671384387
True.
Also I am a fag.
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>>671385537
you fucking bastard
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>>671385826
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>>671385849
don't be dissing the Icheb posse
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>>671385921
Reminder that Tom Paris was the guy in the 80's movie He Man, with dolph lundgren
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>>671385992
Why not?
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>>671385537
Please don't.

Ever again.
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>>671385287
And she was really cute, too.
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Voyager sucked penguin dick
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TNG>DS9>VOY>>>>>>>>ENT

TOS out of contest because the episodes vary so wildly between great and total bullshit.
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brb, warp 10
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>>671384387
Actually its DS9>TOS>TAS>TNG>VOY>ENT

faggot
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>>671387143
>TAS

please kill yourself immediately
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Voyager would have flopped if not for Robert Beltran's legendary performance. He breathed life into an otherwise stale series.
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>>671387143
This is bait.
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>>671387457
Fuck you nigger cum
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>>671385016
Maybe you should chill.
It's just a child.
Also they do use devices in TNG that look like ipads.
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>>671387547
>that bait pic where the fish is saying this is a fishing pole he just threw it in the water
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>>671387637
Your mom is bait.
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>>671387547
the indian voodoo shit was stupid
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Huge fan
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Got tired of all the Native American bullshit - reality is we killed all the good ones... Seven of nine was smoking hot.
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>>671387547
>go to planet on the other side of the galaxy
>feel your indian ancestors speak from the grave
That guy was obviously not fit to command a star ship.
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>>671388012
You know, in that get up, it almost doesn't seem dirty.
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>>671388012
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>>671384914
no
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>>671384914

Neelix was a terribly written character acted so well he became enjoyable.

>>671385743

Artificially aging them would be a waste of resources, the borg just plugged them in and waited.
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>>671388390
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>>671386711

The last season of enterprise made up for the failings of the first three
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>>671385287
brb wiping memory core
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everything about star trek is tenth rate low budget shit
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>>671388390
Spok Jr. was my favorite voyager. Worf Jr. was also good.
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>>671388674

May be so, but I stopped watching somewhere around season two.
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>>671388012
sauce? i know it's darth talon..
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You've got blood on your hands Janeway
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>>671385537

>implying TNG didn't have baby borg
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>>671388907
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>>671384646
DS9>ENT>VOY>TNG>TOS
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Voyager is crap -
TNG > DS9 > ENT >VOY
Even DS9 is better and there's a black guy in charge
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>>671388686
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>>671388907
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>>671384387
Sure, but I bet she likes anal.
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>>671388827

>Not watching all star trek, no matter how shitty

Maybe you'd be more comfortable outside, drinking coffee.
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>>671384387
TNG VOY DS9 TOS

BECAUSE SISQO IS A GIANT OVERACTING FAGGOT, and enterprise doesn't exist

Nigga
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>>671388965
Some things in this show was just absolutely ridiculous
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>>671388965

That episode went from silly TOS, to very very dark.
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>>671384387
>TNG>DS9>VOY>TOS>ENT
suuuure

TOS>TNG>ENT=VOY>seaQuest DSV(which is shit)>DS9
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I've been watching all of Star Trek over the last couple of years since I never watched it as a kid. I'm currently like 5 episodes into ENT. Thus far, I'd say my rating is:

TNG > TOS >>>>>> ENT > DS9 > VOY

Some tier ratings:
>Unassimilatable Tier
Picard

>Top Tier
Spock, Seven, Kirk, Data

>Good tier:
Worf, Scotty, Bones, Barclay, The Doctor, Dr. Bashir, O'Brien

>Average Tier
LaForge, Riker, Tuvok, Tom Paris, Kira, Sisko, Jadzia, Quark, Ezri

>Bad Tier
Janeway, Torres, Troi, Dr. Crusher, Harry Kim, Kes

>Kill Them Quick Tier
Odo, Chakotay, Wesley, Lwaxana Troi, Neelix
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>>671389374

Watching writers rape Gene's cuck ideas was well worth Sisko's overacting.
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>>671389614
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>>671389363
These episodes were pretty fun. If it hadn't been for the fact that humans were evil beyond nazi-standards just so we would understand they are evil, I would have watched season after season of it.

Also, humanity taking over the galaxy sounds like a great idea in the first place.
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>>671389614

Season 3 will be shit. They gambled with a new formula and it sucked. Season 4 will be as good as TNG.
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>>671389614
Fucking retard gtfo with ent
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>>671389155
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>>671385793
>>671385793
where???!!!
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>>671389785
sisco and kira should change places
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>>671385126
the only good character in the show tbh.
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>>671389614
>Lwaxana Troi episodes
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>>671384764
but youre a faggot.
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>>671389614
>>Kill Them Quick Tier
>Odo, Chakotay, Wesley, Lwaxana Troi, Neelix

and reboot Scotty, fucking Simon Pegg fucking movie-ruining cuntlick
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>>671389614
what about Tasha Yar
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>>671390156
absolutely cancer of star trek...
this and early diana troy and her eyes in darkness episode
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>>671389802

Humans do take over the galaxy, look at Enterprise Vulcans and Andorians compared to the Federation. Human ideals win out. Human ideals always win out.

We're the borg, but we don't tell them they're going to be assimilated.
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>>671390386
Forgettable tier, but I guess if I had to put her in the list I'd say Bad Tier.
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>>671389825
I remember this episode fuck what a little faggot. Nobody likes a smartass why would they think kids would relate to this piece of shit.
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>>671390345
This. So much this! I just can't fucking bare to see that guy in any serious role! It's like Benny Hill starring in Terminator ....
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>>671384387
10/10
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>>671384387
Feck you, OP.
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>>671388907
What pissed me off about Janeway was her hypocrisy, when they encountered the other Federation starship in Delta quadrant was the worse.

Accused the other crew of the "crime" of abandoning the prime directive while forgetting everything she did then killed them off
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>>671390446
the federation are sjw. in reality they would have been wiped out by romulans or klingons
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Janeway don't give a fuck about what you say.
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>>671390587
Youre a terrible cook
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>>671390671
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Guise..Guise!!
Look What i brought back from the Delta Quadrant
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>>671390446
Humans may be winning culturally, and due to the shows budget, maybe even demographically. However they should aspire to be more like the Klingons and Romulans. Not a single foreign national in their ranks.

That very reason is probably why they are losing ground to the Federation, but nevermind that fact.
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>>671385826
where Star Trek continues would be in this comparison?
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>>671390952
Those were the only two reasons to watch that show.
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>>671387547
Didn't he keep asking for retarded raises in hopes he would get fired because he didn't want the role anymore?
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>>671391152
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>>671390692

>Implying both Klingons and Romulans aren't federation cucks in the end
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DS9>TNG>TOS>VOY>ENT

Any of y'all who dog DS9 are crazy. It was the only one of the series where the "heroes" ended up being borderline evil half the time in the name of the greater good. Sisko made an entire (populated) planet unable to support life just to win.
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>>671391252
Didn't the Klingons completely obliterate the Federation in a war? They only made peace since a Federation ship sacrificed itself to save a bunch of Klingons.

But in the future I think it is canon that the Empire is integrated into the Federation.
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>>671384387
>when she gets home instead of being tried for her war crimes she gets promoted to Admiral cause daddy is one too
2real4fiction
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>>671390986

They don't have to be human on the outside, to act like humans on the inside. Andorian warrior culture? Gone. Vulcan isolationism? Gone. Bajoran caste system? Not today spacejews.
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>>671390845
That captain was far more interesting and human than that psychopath.
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>>671391497
Not to mention that the relationship between the characters were just pure gold most of the time. Bashir and Garak, O'Brien and Bashir, Quark and Odo, etc etc. Rarely were episodes boring when it focused on the personal relationships of the crew.
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>>671389825
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>>671384914
Neelix: Star Trek's Jar-jar
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>>671391561

I believe the federation was projected to lose that war, but in a generation or two. In Gene's notes, there was a show where the Klingons did join the federation, then overthrew it from the inside and ruled the galaxy.

It would have focused on a lone starfleet captain frozen in time, trying to rebuild the Federation after the Klingons collapsed into infighting. They did end up making the show, but they couldn't get star trek licencing so they changed all the names.
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>>671388965
Friendly reminder that Captain Janeway did nothing wrong .
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>>671384387
>it's a Seven never truly got over her conspiracy phase and shitposted Janeway hate on /b/ episode
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>>671392033
What's the name of the show?
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>>671391497
>>671391831

DS9 is overlooked, they did some really great things with it.
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>>671392033
Yeah, it was called Andromeda, which was a pretty good show for the first two seasons then shit the bed with Hercules wanted a more staring role.
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You are now aware that Tuvok now works at the Starfleet acadamy
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>>671392200

Gene Roddenberry's Andromeda

The lead is weak, but the supporting cast is good. The parallels are really easy to see. They even get the borg in there.
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>>671392200
Andromeda. Pretty good for the first two seasons.
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>>671384387

DS9 > TOS > VOY > TNG > ENT

I know there's going to be hate for putting Voyager that high but it had better characters and better writing than the typical sterility of TNG.
Also, butblasted borg drone detected.
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>>671392207
I was there when it was live on tv and it was just a damn soap opera with a scifi skin. poeple these days love that shit though look at game of thrones.
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>>671392564
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>>671392564
That's what I've imagined at every moment
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>>671384387
>Janeway
>dumb bitch
Are you fucking high? She lead her crew through uncharted space for years, dealing with hostile aliens and procuring unfamiliar technology in the process. She's kept her cool even at the worst of times, and single-handedly beat the Borg, then used their tech to get back to the Alpha Quadrant.

Picard? Thanks to him, earth almost got fucked BY the Borg.
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>>671392633

I'm okay with that. They managed to fit a space opera into the star trek universe and it worked.
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>>671388012
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>>671392789

Earth wouldn't have been fucked if Archer did his job and stopped that transport in time
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But can we all agree that this is the patrician's star trek movie?
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>>671392746
You too?
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>>671392931
DS9 is god tier you pleb
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>>671392016
This was the most badass captain in all of Star Trek. He told Troi not to dress like a slut, and she wore a jumpsuit until the end of the series.

THAT is AUTHORITY!
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>>671391662
thats what you get for multiculuralism. your culture will die
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>>671392981
>Archer
>not Janeway
You see my point? The best way is always the Janeway.

>A guy over a century before me didn't do his job and almost got the human race fucked before it could wet its interstellar feet
>but that's none of my business
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>>671392789
but she had the personality and acting skills of a wet towel.
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>>671393127
yeeeeee boiiiii ds9 is my favorite trek too yo
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>>671393159

They just all pick up human culture. Suck it space niggers.
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>>671393019
meh I liked first contact better.
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>>671392633
More like, it had an ongoing plot that actively affected the characters, instead of having everything go right back to normal at the end of the episode.
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>>671393327
>implying Sisko was in anyway a nigger
He's the most alpha captain.
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>>671393280
Well, you have to be some kinda way when you're a captain in her position. Be all motherly if you want..get your whole crew cucked by Kazons.
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>>671392016
Yes.
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>It's a Harry Kim gets into S&M episode
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>>671393146

So true. Jellico was so much better a captain than Picard. Would have loved a show with him kicking ass and taking names each week.
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>>671384387
Did Janeway fuck much on that show?
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>>671393412
I tried to like it. I just think the appeal of star trek to me is you know treking.
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>>671384387
i liked voyager, but she is a stupid insufferable bitch
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>>671384764
Said the loser on /b/
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>>671392789
Janeway stopped the only species that was defeating the borg.
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>>671393259

She can't even command an enterprise, move side for a real captain
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>>671387547
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>>671393744
>She can't even command an enterprise
That's because she never did
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>>671393601

>Tie woman to chair for sex
>Run away while she's tied up

Kim was great
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>>671389155
>Best Wishes

I wish to habe sex.
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You are now aware that Seven of Nines father is Ug from Salute Your Shorts
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>>671387547
Literally wakemeupinside.jpg: the performance

And this is coming from someone who otherwise likes voyager
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>>671393739
And then established HUMANS as the leading species to. She even took one of them with her as a crew member, AND used their own tech for her own purposes.

sheeiiit.

>>671393744
Voyager, Intrepid Class > Enterprise beyond Sovereign class.
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>>671393773
No. Women are not above criticism.
Having a vagina does not make you unquestionable.
Also, you forgot to tip your fedora, you cretin.
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>>671391203
I heard he used to use his acting roll on Voyager to solicit sex from college girls.
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>>671393773
you cant possibly think she was a good actress. Is this a ruse?
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>>671393940
UG LEE, UG LEE, UG LEE!
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>>671394166
kek, now she LOOKS like a new alien species.
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>>671394047
Never implied that. I've just never seen a female actor praised here for anything other than looks.
Though for balance, we hate pretty much every person with an acting resume anyway. Even the good ones. /tv/ still hasn't gotten over Idris Elba yet.
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>>671393658
That's fair. Some of the best DS9 episodes were on the Defiant.
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>>671394112
Agreed.
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You forgot the part where she rebuilt a crew after her ship gets royally fucked up with a Maqui crew, surviving almost intact with little to no contact or help with the Federation for seven years, fighting the Borg and a collection of other wanks on the way.
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>>671394294

People shit on everything here. If you have a good opinion, keep it to yourself.
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>>671394166
>JUST Trek: Voyager
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>>671392016
Fucking.Betazoids. The only race of women hotter than the Bajorans.
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>>671394421

The bottom two were a dream, and one is literally necrophilia.
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>>671394479
If I were a civilian on DS9, you bet your ass I'd date a Bajoran girl.
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>>671394479
Eh, she always seemed a bit too butch for me. I'd fuck Jadzia any day of the week though.
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>You are now aware that Seven of Nine is responsible for Obama become President
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>>671390970
Such blasphemy.

>>671394609
Same here, or I'd go on a space-walk and "accidentally" right into the wormhole.

>>671394666
People usually either love or hate Kira. But then, there's Mirror Kira...
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>>671394666
Satanic trips confirm truth.
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>>671394609

I couldn't put up with all the constant whining about the occupation.

#OccupyBajor
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Can we talk about how Gene was obsessed with matriarchy? Almost everything he did from TOS to his death had an episode or unrealized episode premise dealing with a matriarchal society.
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>>671384387
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Rate my dankness https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n53X60auVf0
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>>671394421
Harry Kim got all kinds of space pussy
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>>671394837
#BajoranLivesMatter
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>>671393972
And then nearly killed everyone in the ship because she wanted to save one alien that was already dying from the guy who killed it.

She was an incompetent hypocrite that took the easy path because she couldn't face the consequences of command, leaving it to everyone else to clean up her mistakes then took the credit for their work.
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>>671394842
>getting dominated by deep-space feminists
I can dig it
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>>671394849
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>>671384387
I'm a trek nerd, own all the series (yes, even enterpise, shudder) and I think Janeway was the worst captain of them all. People always call me sexist when I say this, but she simply is. Then I tell them my favorite is Sisko and they say HE WASNT EVEN A CAPTAIN WHEN THE SHOW STARTED and then call me a niggerlover.

I just liked his singing.
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>>671394992

My uncle died at the Gallitep labor camp, he fell off a guard tower.
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>>671394479
>Fucking Black Contact Lenses. The only race of women hotter than the Rubber Nosebridgers.
Vanilla Pig Disgusting

>>671394609
>If I were a civilian on DS9, you bet your ass I'd date a Bajoran girl.
Just date a orthodox pro-Israeli kike girl that served in IDF, it's basically the same.
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>>671394602
Harry also dyed and never got to make it back home to see his mom. The closest thing he got to a funeral was B'Elanna yelling out his name as he drifted away into space.
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>>671395068
>when you do what you have to in order to get your crew back to the Alpha Quadrant
>but you still get roasted regardless by normies who just graduated from the academy
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>>671395313

Does that make it double necophilia?
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>>671395313
>The closest thing he got to a funeral was B'Elanna yelling out his name as he drifted away into space.

>HARRY!!
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>>671394666

Forget Jadzia, I'd rather have Ezri over Major Butch.
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>>671394479
Vulcan women are the most sought after prize in the galaxy
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>>671395229
Those camps didn't exist. The whole thing is a lie propagated by the Bajoran Militia to gain sympathy so they can infest more territory with their cancerous culture and religion. Dukat did nothing wrong.
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>>671389614
I agree with most of these but I feel Tuvok could have gone to at least good and Odo was NOT a bad character all.
>>671390386
she was killed quickly
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>>671395606
But they starfish in bed, because you know
>muh logic
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>>671395599
Ezri was a little cutie but I love me an amazon woman
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>>671395111
not convinced sulu would be distracted by that lol

nice trip btw
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>>671395200
>Janeway worst, Coonesko best, no mention of homeboys Picard and Kirk
I bet you also watched all of the Marvel movies in theater.
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>>671395692
Vvulcan women can fake passion for human males. Just like human females.
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>>671395850
Is....is this....real?
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>>671388538
Nice
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>>671395810
T'Pol was a frogfaced weirdo who was blowing brannon braga. They had to put her in that stupid suit they put 7 of 9 and Troi in too to ensure us she is the sex object of the show because otherwise we wouldnt know.

Not saying she's ugly, but her presentation was ridiculous.
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>>671395313
It gets worse.
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>>671395336
Everything she tried to do went south and it was up to the crew to solve it, she wasn't responsible for getting them back, she actually got in the way of accomplishing that most of the time.
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Star Trek EU >>>>> Star Wars EU
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>>671390740
There's coffee in that child!!
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>>671396069
yep
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>>671396049
I haven't been to a movie theater in like ten years, I'll watch a cam or TS in my home theater where I can smoke bowls and get frunked and eat my own snacks. I do watch all the marvel movies.

I didn't mention picard and kirk because those are everyone else in the universe's two favorites.
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>>671384387
TNG>TOS>DS9>TAS>ENT>VOY
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>>671395336
you know she was bad when this chick does a much better job.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NANUpPaiGG8
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>>671395692
But you can convince them of the benefits of anal sex. It's only logical.
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I love VOY because it's the only one where they're really exploring and cut off from just heading home like they do in every other series. But Janeway, fuck, she gives a self destruct command every other episode - even succeeded in that episode with the split timeline. She was ridiculous.
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>>671389614

TNG was good when it wasn't moralizing, basically season 3+. It's dated with it's adventure of the the day/reset button episode format.

TOS was crap

ENT could've been good bug never made it over the early season hump that afflicts every Star Trek

Voyager was meh

DS9 is far and away the best iteration of Star Trek in terms of writing, if you disagree that only means you have shit taste in media.

Battlestar Galactica>>>>> DS9 > rest of Trek
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>>671384387
she wasn't so bad, i didn't get that shitty feminist vibe from her ether.
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>>671384646

You're very wrong about DS9. Best characters of any series. Garek, Sisko, Weyoun, Dukat; even Worf finally gets his due and gets to kick the shit out of people.
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>>671396650
>>DS9 is far and away the best iteration of Star Trek in terms of writing, if you disagree that only means you have shit taste in media.
>
>Battlestar Galactica>>>>> DS9

Found the faggot who likes soap opera-like emotional crapfest instead of enjoying sci-fi action. I bet you're also an avid fan of B5.
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>>671396650
>crawling in my skin, these wounds will not heal
Need to be over 18 to post here.
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>>671396135
Why ask why? Just enjoy it.
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Voyager is the most sensitive of the Star Treks.
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>>671396650
BSG holds the rare honor of being the only show I've ever watched where I hated EVERY cast member and wanted them all to die. Probably the least enjoyable TV show I've watched all the way through. Terrible writing, terrible plot full of holes, terrible all around.
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>>671386834

Just unforgivably bad. A fucking aesthetic holocaust.
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>>671389614
Where is Quark?
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>>671397153
It's on there. Average Tier. I forgot Garak, who should be in Good Tier.
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I saw the Voyager cast at a convention panel and they were funny as fuck. Past tensions aside they all have great chemistry.
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>>671397231
What's with the phaser? Does it have a virbate setting?
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>>671385287

METH

NOT EVEN ONCE
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>>671396447
God I'm so glad they didn't go with that first lady with the accent.
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>>671397303
Oh my bad. And go fuck yourself for not rating him higher. Space faggot.
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>>671390671
I feel like that was more of a result of bad writing. and the usual "poor alien creatures, how dare you exploit them you monsters" resulting in a "only way out of this is death" scenario.

Doesnt excuse Janeway as a character as much as it simply falls into that common sci fi morality pothole.
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>>671396447
It's generally accepted that the French lady was worse, and I agree with that. She has zero charisma or sense of professional duty.
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>>671395692
When you say starfish I imagine one getting on top of the other and they both spread out all their limbs as far as they can and then rotate in opposite directions.
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>>671397662
I dunno man she acted out that scene much better.
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>>671391831

Yeah DS9 had some great relationships and individual scenes among non-human characters. There's a fantastic scene with Garak and Quark before the Klingons attack the station*.

Even Voyager had that awesome scene with the Dr. and 7 of 9 singing You are My Sunshine.
*That was another good thing about DS9: lots of Klingon badassery.
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>>671397910
as opposed to way overacting or talking like a robot like the one they went with.
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>>671392102
I still dont get the problem people have with her decision. She saved 2 lives by ending 1. There's no way around that logic. Simple math evades people who use this against Janeway. I'm not a huge fan of her, but please find better arguments against her.
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When I was 13 or 14 I wrote a fan fiction where the DS9 crew met James Bond. It was pretty weird.
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>>671394421
>That image

That is fucking weird. VOY spent so much time with harry bitching about his poor luck with women but he got tons of play, more than any other cast member, they just never lasted long so he moved on. Sounds alpha as fuck to me, guy just didnt even know it.
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>>671397746
Yes, bad writing definitely was the problem. It would have been great if they just ditched that good alien bs and incorporated the other crew.

Would have added some good friction of point of views that the show needed.
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>>671398216
>raises her voice a few times in situations that demanded it
>overacting
ok
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>>671398041
Not saying she's not a good actress I just happen to be a fan of the real janeway's voice and mannerisms.
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STAR TREK IS FOR OLDFAGS WHO DON'T REALIZE IT'S BEEN SURPASSED BY SHOWS LIKE BSG, THE EXPANSE & FIREFLY.

THAT CHEESY SHIT IS PAST ITS SELL BY DATE.
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>>671398125
And Cardassian treachery. I thought Dukat brought a brillian sadism to the show.
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>>671384387
>>671384646
>>671385826
>>671387143
>>671389374
Am I the only one that loved Deep Space 9? The serialized storytelling and darker town sold me on it. Granted, I watched all the series on netflix as I wasn't born when the majority of them were out, but still, I don't understand all the hate it gets.

I think a lot older trekkers dislike DS9 cause they were expecting more "Planet of the Week" sort of episodes and didn't get it.
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>>671398488
after growing up with picard janeway just couldnt compare.
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Rolling for NOT wesly
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>>671398518
and you think anyone gives a shit what a punk thinks?
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>>671398652
It's my favorite of the franchise, and /tv/ used to love it before they remembered that they hated blacks.
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>>671398705
Rolling for the Bijoran cutie
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>>671398518
Uh, I watch all those shows and still like Trek. Derp. Also, btw, Firefly ended its short run while Enterprise was still airing. Learn to appreciate history, kid.
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http://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1456701420124.webm

Based doctor
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>>671398652
thats the problem they didnt trek.
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>>671398596
>that 4 lights episode in TNG.

Good times.
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>>671398518
>BSG
Emotional crapfest.

>Firefly
Canned after 1 season.

>The Expanse
Your only somewhat valid argument.

>>671398705
roll
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>>671398652
Yeah this is the exact complaint I typically hear. Some fans wanted a new self-contained story of an alien experience in each ep (ala TOS or TNG) rather than broad interpersonal arcing storylines which is the direction DS9 went in. Different strokes I guess
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>>671398652

No DS9 was the best one. TNG probably had the best writing, at least among a subset of really great episodes; but there were also some really horrible ones. Pound for pound DS9 was the best series, and had some really good episodes of its own. The Die is Cast, In the Pale Moonlight, By Inferno's Light, and so forth.

But TNG had Measure of a Man. Checkmate.
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>>671399117
>they didn't trek
ok
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>>671398805
Eat shit and do a time travel episode in 19th C San Francisco with a Klingon and a yellow skin android.
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>>671399621
>yellow skin android
He's a Frenchman, anon
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>>671388327
Such a great double episode!!!
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>>671399621
>implying yellow skinned people weren't a common sight in that region at that time
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>>671399032
Yeah, because oldfags couldn't appreciate the future. It wouldn't be so bad if you acknowledged that it's dated as fuck, but you Trekkies still act like it's a good show today. It's not.
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>>671399460
DS9 just kind of lost it at the end with the Emissary and Wormhole Alien shit, which had been fine until they went full retard with it.
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>>671399858
Not that yellow. Unless you're fucking suffering liver failure to the point of jaundice.
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>>671399958
i dont remember anyone asking your opinion on some other show that has nothing to do with this thread faggot.
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>>671399460
Dude, the single best episode, and probably the darkest episode of ANY trek series...

Sisko had a tough fucking choice there.
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>>671398806
I don't hate him because he's black. I hate him because he's a nigger.
Brutish, thuggish, abrasive, ignorant, short-tempered, uncultured, condesending swine ghetto punching and "muh prophets"-ing through a show filled by not-kike inserts in first part and completely unbelievable war in the second part of the run. Garrack and Quark carried the show, Bashir and Rom to the lesser degree. Bad guys were Captain America rejects with some flair here and there.
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>>671399958
I acknowledge its dated as fuck, that's empirically correct. It's easy to date the show from its conventions. That doesn't make it a BAD show though.
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>>671400070

Yeah that's pretty fair. The writing got lazy in the last season.
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>>671400336
Kirk was far more violent than Sisko. Sisko was just better at fistfighting than any of the other captains.
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>>671384387

Janeway = Captain Jonas Grumby
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>>671400265
I would take Darmok and Jalad episode of TNG over anything that DS9 crapped out any time any day.
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>>671398652
Re read my post faggot ds8's my favorite
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>>671399221
>>BSG
>Emotional crapfest.

Philosophical, dramatic, amazing space battles, deep mythology, superb performances.

>>Firefly
>Canned after 1 season.

Many great shows canned after 1 season, because oldfags didn't understand that ratings were not the be all and end all.

In the modern era, people get this. Which is why Netflix doesn't release ratings.
* * *

From the NY TIMES:

Mr. Sarandos, instead, pointed to the number of Netflix subscribers, which he said is about 70 million worldwide, and 43 million in the United States. In keeping with his public stance that Netflix would never release ratings, he said he did not want to engage in a “weekly arms race.”

“Once we give a number for a show, then every show will be benchmarked off of that show even though they were built sometimes for very specific audiences,” he said.

He added: “There is a very natural inclination to say, ‘Relative to this show, this show is a failure.’ That puts a lot of creative pressure on the talent.”
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>>671387547

Breathed.

*takes breath*

Heee...
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>>671399460
>By Inferno's Light

"I yield! I cannot defeat this Klingon. All I can do is kill him, and that no longer holds my interest."
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