Why is /b/ voting for Bernie Sanders?
#FeelTheBern
>>671100771
i want free shit
>>671100829
mi 2
i want med grade weed like a court appointed lawyer
>>671100771
>>671100771
im voting for hillary
we should support the female candidate regardless of who she is
Can't dislike a guy who invented fried chicken.
>gets the nigger vote for sho'
>>671100771
Because of how buttmad it makes young conservatives. They read one Ayn Rand book and are suddenly expert economists.
bernie is just some old fuck who hates the rich because he never made any money in his life
Because I'm a nigger
>>671100771
Raun Paul. Bernie wants to raise minimum wage to $15 an hour, that's dumb. He also wants to put doctors and anyone on the medical field behind the whip. Fuck that guy.
>>671102021
what? Where is your source on that last one??
Fuck off reddit
>>671102292
Free healthcare is what I mean. I was all for it, till I thought about them. All that school and hard work they've done to be able to make $100 thousand a year goes down the drain now, because they will be paid for directly by the feds. And they wont pay them that much. Sure there will be more doctors after he lowers the cost of college tuition, which I think is great, but you wont be making the money you deserve after schooling for like 8 years
I'm voting for him tomorrow (technically today since its past midnight
>>671101187
golly! what a well thought-out and innovative joke!
Daily reminder that "free" shit is both not free and grossly immoral
>>671100771
Because I believe that we have a moral obligation to our brothers and sisters to use what advantages we have to better their lives and give them a certain standard of life.
>wanting to vote for a socialist
>>671103974
Socialism isn't failure dumb ass, it's just some hoe ass shit. Ever hear of Canada? Definitely not a failure, they just like to hoe the fuck out of your salary.
>>671104159
>pic so very related
>>671104159
Well maybe they should get off their asses and go get a job instead of flipping burgers for $15 and hour like he wants.
>>671102783
I dont think you understand a single payer system... hospitals will still be competitive and healthcare workers will make the same (if not more money.) instead of going through these vultures in the health INSURANCE industry, you would simply show proof of citizenship. There will also most definitely be cosmetics and better doctors that will still charge more too, that just comes out of your pocket beyond a set price.
>>671104689
I don't think you understand socialized health care. Look at Canada, doctors are paid far less, they give substandard care, and they're leaving Canada in droves.
>>671104211
>Canada
The country controlled by a literal sjw?
>>671104689
Even if that were true (which it's not) he still wants to pay burger flippers $15 and hour and completely change the worth of your dollar for some reason.
>>671105165
Canada is so fucked
>mfw
you don't realize that because of Super Delegates, Bernie will lose even if he wins all the primaries.
It's fixed and you don't even know it. LOL!!!
>>671104689
Yeah it's nice waiting 3 months for X-rays that needed yesterday
>>671105165
Handsome dude, no homo. Yeah it's fucked, but not failed. And hell of a lot different than the fucking axis powers from 60 plus years ago that you just tried to compare it to.
>>671105023
Technically the 2 are unrelated... of course they would come here. Just like all the manufacturing jobs are leaving the US
>>671104689
Canada has greater than 2 day wait periods for the fucking emergency room. I sure want that here!
>>671105303
Well if you read his plan, its a 10 year plan... i think if its not 15$ in 2026 then your state is doing pretty shit
>>671105692
This. Heard about a guy that needed his eyes done, lasic or something. Waited months and they only did one eye. Had to go in later for another.
FACT: Bernie can't win.
I'm not saying it because I don't like him or don't want him to win.
I'm saying that because even if he wins EVERY primary, he won't be the nominee.
It's sad that some of you don't know this. It's 100% true.
Hillary already has the nomination. This is just theater.
I'm dead serious. If you think I'm kidding, you really need to pay closer attention.
>>671105954
Are you speaking of his plan that will cost $18 TRILLION?
I won't pay for no fucking wall. Trump will be stumped
>>671100771
I'm not because I'm not a retarded commie.
>>671105964
>>671105878
>>671105692
All strawmen arguments that fox news loves to spew out. have you noticed they have actually stopped lately?
I would also like to remind you goofs that trump supports a single payer system
>>671105878
Are you high or just stupid?
Nobody walks into a hospital and waits for 2-3 days to get seen by a doctor.
>>671105954
I actually live in one of the states with the most jobs and best economy right now. $15 an hour salary isn't just "good money" that's something you could make a career out of. No, your country is shit if you make $15 an hour delivering pizza. The cost of everything would go through the roof, and your dollar bill would be worth half of what it is now. Maybe even less. All it takes is for you to just look at other socialist countries to see what the fuck I mean.
>>671103234
Go suck Bernie's dick.
>another good one.
>>671106354
You don't know the meaning of straw man arguments
These are called examples.
>>671106354
>>671106404
I know people in Canada. They tell me of the horrors of their health care system, the years long waits for specialists, the >2 day waits in the ER, the ungodly unsanitary conditions in the hospitals, the rationed health care... It's worse than any 3rd world nation!
>>671106614
Remember, to leftists evidence is "oppressive".
>>671100771
>>671101187
Good old Bernol Sanders
>> INB4 Kernie
>>671100771
we're not, go back to plebbit retard.
>>671106643
I live in Canada. My girlfriends mom just went into the hospital for pains in her side thinking it's a uti. They ran tests, found the problem, and did surgery all that day.
I have no clue where your friends in Canada live, but it sounds like the ghetto native reservations or something
>>671106354
Nigga, are you serious? Capitalism itself is the best way to go. Period. Flawed? Fuck yes it is, I can name a few problems off the top of my head, biggest being king corporate. But it is a hell of a lot better than having to go to work just to buy groceries.
>>671106643
Hahaha scawy stowies.
NZ has single payer 'socialist' healthcare.
>MFW I also have private insurance so I can queue jump if a need to. $20/week full hospital/specialist/ops. For basic doctor visits I just make an appt and pay. Don't wait 2 days for the fucking ER.
>>671107000
Oh sure, I believe you. Uh-huh. Right. Totes legit here guys! Canada's system is flawless and perfect according to this upstanding socialist. I've never known a lefty to lie, no sir!
>>671107249
Even if that's true, i'm not gonna settle for $15 and hour for making your food at Arby's or some shit.
>>671107249
Nobody waits days for EMERGENCY medical services.
>>671107249
So you admit that you need private insurance on top of the universal health care? Thanks for proving my point! Socialized medicine is a failure, you need the free market to get things working.
>>671107486
In Canada they do, don't know about NZ.
>>671101147
Trying to bait THIS hard
>>671100771
hilary will get the nom
trump will be republican nom and throw the race as hes planned all along
(remember he was a die hard democrat til about a year ago)
>>671106765
Lol he just repeated. a word he heard someone smarter say
A strawman is a hypothetical easily defeated argument. Made in an attempt to show that you're correct on a smaller scale or in a similar circumstance.
It's a fallacy because this is this.
Not something else.
>>671107652
It's most likely a plain joke. Nobodies voting for that cunt.
>>671107512
No, I'm saying you can choose it which you idiots never acknowledge. All the plebs get their universal cover which isn't that bad, I just take an upgrade.
>>671107384
I never said it was flawless. But obviously I'm more knowledgeable on my own countrys health care system, seeing as I live here and everything.
If our health standards are as low as you seem to think they are, Canadians would have died out by now.
>>671105551
gr8 b8 m8 i r8 0/8
Also superdelegates change their nominations all the time. Hilary always had the superdelegates, but ALWAYS KEEPS LOSING THEM. To Obama in 2008, no less.
>>671107844
How bad is their service? Roach ridden hospitals? Frighteningly high mortality rates? You know the market is always far better.
>>671107847
I'm just saying you're a liar. :)
>>671107592
If you actually believe that you're retarded.
If I break my leg and go to ER, they're gonna treat me that day.
Guess what happens when a democratic president gets elected and the congress is full of republicans? Nothing. We just fall into more shit. Guess what happens when it's reversed? Same thing. We need a republican president this time around because CONGRESS is full of republicans. It's the only way anything will happen right now.
>>671108177
Suuuuure they will. I've seen the reports, I've heard the stories. I heard about one guy who needed a heart specialist, he had to wait two fucking years! How's that socialism working out up there?
I know you guys are having fun arguing back and forth, but Hillary is the nominee.
If you don't know that, you don't understand how this works. It's already over. He lost.
>>671108014
Very pleasant service, doctors who can and will prescribe weed for pain, and doctors who like Yurovision?
I dunno, I've not heard much about Canadian Healthcare, and all I know about it was from a terminal cancer patient who lived there.
>>671108014
hahaha ask how much your mom pays for you. We get universal + cheaper private AS WELL. Coz shills like you get buttfucked by your insurance companies and respond with harder! harder!
>>671108476
Anyone who goes for the nigger vote loses.
>>671108553
Yeah, you PAY for the pleasant service you dolt. I'm asking about how the peasantry get served in your shit public system.
>>671108476
So, was it the Illumati? The NEW WORLD ORDER? Lizardfolk from the 9th dimension? AYYYYYY LMAOS?
WHO REALLY DECIDES THE DEM NOMINATION?
>>671108590
>says the government bitch who loves big government's dick up his commie bunghole
>>671108341
You're actually fucking retarded.
Our health care is clearly superior
>>671108289
we had a democrat president and a dem congress
they still didnt get shit done, good or bad
besides trump will win the republican nomination and either throw the race or get elected and fuck shit up
>>671101807
actually he's worth 300K which I'm sure is more than you can say. He doesn't hate the rich. He hates the rich who buy a politician's influence to further increase their profits at the expense of the lower classes
>>671108856
There is more than one person in this thread. As for NZ, facilities are variable. Most are very pleasant, none are the dirty roachmotels you want to imagine. Old and tatty would be the worst of it. The biggest difference is you may have to stay in a ward rather than a private room.
Doctors offices are private & very nice. This is why I choose only hospital cover - I seldom go to the doctor but want comfort if I ever do have to be hospitalised.
>>671105326
Dood...
Weed
>>671109039
>higher mortality from cancer
>poorer quality medical equipment
>rationed care
>inferior doctors
Oh yes, so very superior.
>>671104204
Canada has working socialism you inbred shit head.
>>671109814
Keep paying for those useless tests with all those shiney machines.
>>671108856
I'm not denying i have to pay for meds and stuff. That's the natural order of things.
In Singapore you pay for it out of the pocket. Government subsidizes some of the cost, and I pay for rest. The worst I have to wait is several hours, or if I need a specialist, i make an appointment if it's not life-threatening.
dubs and bernie gets raped by trump
>>671109508
300k is not much > he wants to tax wall street which is A. socialist which always fails B. Wall street is not who he seems to think it is - research up on what it is and who it is.
People think if you don't like Bernie it's greedy, I ask how is it greedy to want to keep what is yours and how is it NOT greedy to want to take others stuff.
>>671109880
>working socialism
Best oxymoron I've ever heard! Why bother working in a socialist system? Others will provide for you.
Seriously though, your country is fucked! How many hundreds of thousands of muslims are you letting in this year? God damn I'm glad I'm not living up there.
>>671109982
>useless tests
Oh yes, saving lives is useless. Typical socialist, doesn't value human life at all.
>>671110089
Still no where near as effective as American care. Why else do people come here from around the world for care?
Shills pls go
>>671102783
Call 911, want police or fire dept. and it's free, want an ambulance and we have to pay.
>>671110486
It's not free you vile socialist. Other people pay for it. And those services are grossly inferior to what the market could provide.
>SRS trying this hard
>>671104211
Two month ago 16 year old girl died in queue at free hospital. That how your Canada's socialism works.
>>671109880
No it don't
>>671111081
this...
>>671110916
Thinks US has a free market instead of a rigged oligopoly between the insurance companies, hospital conglomerates, Big Pharma, and the lawyers, all vacuuming money out of the consumers stupid pockets, brainwashed consumer sheep who bitch about muh freedoms while being raped.
>>671104204
>socialism
>Mussolini
>>671106404
do you even third world?
>>671111554
It's not a true free market, absolutely true! A true free market means we need to get rid of the government, true anarcho-capitalism.
>>671106643
>
I live in Western Canada and can confirm. Most ER wait times are minimum several hours, and when it gets busy they can be almost 20. It's a fucking joke, and most of the doctors are literal shit. I had an uncle die because after waiting 13 months to see a gastrointestinologist he was told it was IBS and sent home. Bowel Cancer.
The specialist wait times are the worst. If you want good care fast you basically have to do medical tourism... out of a first world country.
>>671100771
nice try tumblr we aren't voting for a jew. . .Trump is the official candidate of the chan
>>671107384
Stop projecting
>>671111959
My sympathies.
This is why socialism needs to be purged from the Earth, and socialists need to be locked away.
>>671100771
Coz I'm a NEET.
>voting for a zionist Jew
/b/ used to be a great place. and now this. now its just pure fucking garbage.
>>671100771
FREE STUFF WOOT
>>671108177
Depends, honestly they will probably put you on painkillers and have you wait in the ER depending on how busy it is.
>>671108341
This is legit. Specialist wait times are bare minimum several months, usually a year+
>>671112017
HURRRR lets build them thar wall Jethro! DURRRRRR
You're not in the club.
>>671111959
I also live in Western Canada. When I was very young, I was getting these extremely strong stomach pains. The doctors said that I was just faking the pains but my parents called bullshit on that so we flew down to Childrens Hospital in Vancouver. In the hospital, I was diagnosed with C Difficile which would have killed me if we hadn't have gone to childrens hospital. Our doctors in Canada are shit.
>voting for a self identified socialist
Why are lefties so bloodthirsty?
>>671112840
Oh fuck, I had C difficile as a kid too! Fuck that sucked, almost killed me too
I do not pledge my allegiance to the flag anymore. This country has been hijacked. I'm pretty sick of this right minded authoritarian ideology that we need all this government. Fucking sheckles man. Fucking sheckles.
>>671112840
Yeah I had a similar experience with a cough. They told me it was asthma and it turns out I had fucking pneumonia. None of the doctors here even give a shit... like the quality of health care here vs. the US is black and white. I'm sure in some parts of Canada it's fine, and even at certain times of the day the wait times are only an hour or two but its mostly the fact that the doctors barely know what they're doing, and can't diagnose to save a life (literally)
>>671110102
you're retarded. Also some people don't aspire to make much beyond their means. I certainly don't plan to be rich. I just want to make enough to have a nice life without need for help from the government. I don't currently but after college I may to buckle down to avoid it. The point is that not everyone is driven by greed. But you pay more taxes to subsidize big business than you do to help feed a poor family with foodstamps that most of them DON'T use in unethical ways
>>671113496
No doubt, some doctors are amazing. That's how I was diagnosed with C Diff but the rest probably cheated their PhD tbh cause I have no idea how they can fuck diagnosis if they are trained for it.
I'm not because I'm not an autistic fucking retard who thinks neocommunism is a good thing.
it's fun watching idiots try to lead other idiots
can't wait for this election
>>671114146
But by saying neocommunism, you have in fact proven you are an autistic fucking retard.
>2016
>voting
fucking cucks.
>>671100771
FEEL THE BERN
>>671112590
go back to tumlr bern boy
>>671112933
You mean hard handed dictators that ruled under the guise of socialism?
Btw - taxes are socialism. Public schools are socialism. So on.
Vote for this old jew and get free stuff!
Feel Da Bern!
>>671111959
In Norway people die because they have to wait months to get cancer treatment. This is why most people would rather travel to get private treatment rather than waiting in queue to die.
>>671100771
But I'm not, OP. YOU CANT STUMP THE TRUMP
>>671114813
>Btw - taxes are socialism. Public schools are socialism. So on.
They certainly are, we need to phase them out, get rid of all government. The market can handle everything far better.
>>671114430
Care to explain?
>>671115165
Spoken like someone who the public school system badly failed.
>>671114976
Nope, this is made up bullshit.
>>671115352
>implying I went to public school
>>671115472
Suuuure it is, fucking commies just love to believe everything their governments say.
>>671115579
Wow well if your parents paid for that education they should really ask for their money back
>>671115039
You left the cruise control on there /b/ro
>>671115656
>fucking commies
How old are you, 14?
>>671107652
I dunno, it worked, didn't it?
>>671115774
Hah, this coming from a government cuck!
>>671115472
Made up bullshit? I would link you articles if you could speak Norwegian.
Who would you vote for?
Mr. Sanders or The Trump?
Thanks, Obama-san!
>>671115843
Sorry, do you prefer "pinko americans"?
>>671115878
Nobody speaks Norweigan.
>>671116001
The cold war's over, dipshit
>>671115199
You wouldn't understand because you're autistic. That picture is autistic too.
>>671115878
Bork! bork!
>>671100771
I'll vote Trump before any Liberal. I'd rather have a right leaning leftist than an out-and-out criminal or a open socialist.
>>671116174
And yet communists and socialists are still infesting the Earth...
>>671116174
>tbh
As long as socialism/marxism still exists in the world, the cold war never ended.
>>671105303
http://time.com/3969977/minimum-wage/
If thees cites can do it why cant the rest of the country. having the decency to pay someone a living wage is what need to be done if we want to raise the middle class out of poverty. an hour of my time is not worth $8.75 if im flipping burgers or engineering the next cure for ebola.
>>671111199
>Implying our healthcare will turn completely around because of socialist bernie.
Yea, fuck off, congress will never let that happen. Just imagine if republicans run every branch, shit would be bananas. Our federalist system needs balance.
>>671116267
aaaaaand done.
>>671116430
hivemind
>>671116480
>implying you're worth even $8.75/h
Give me a break, if there was no minimum wage, you'd be lucky to earn anything more than a dollar an hour. We need to get rid of the minimum wage, it'd help small businesses.
>>671111199
That's not how universal health care works. They don't just let people die because it's "not their turn yet." You're either lying or you read a fabricated story that you believe is true.
>>671105303
Australia and NZ have higher min wages but lower real unemployment than the US, despite commodity price weaknesses affecting both economies badly. How do you explain that?
>>671105651
kek
>>671101147
die
>>671116379
how the fuck could you vote for trump over sanders? Are people actually this stupid?
Trump is an out right racist, who openly admits he doesnt believe in global warming. Jesus christ
>>671105765
>Berenstain
>Baron Stain
Can never unsee
>>671107384
ok where is the prof of >>671106643 so you trust him saying he knows people and not the person that says hes from there. im not saying it but someone said you sound like a trump fan
>>671113833
This anon has never been around true niggers. If most of them don't abuse the food stamps system as you claim then it shouldn't be an issue for them to be drug tested as a condition of their continued time at the teat of my tax dollars, should it?
>>671116912
Racist get a hard-on when you talk about race you see.
>>671101956
/thread
>>671116732
Yes, let us reverse back to pre-depression era. That sounds brilliant. History doesn't repeat itself at all. Now fuck off, Jew.
Because he'll give me the most NEETbux out of all the candidates. Can't wait to fap to the the wagecuck rage.
>>671116732
lol yah lets go back to the days where the worker made 1$ a day and we had children working in coal mines. that will raise the standard of living
>>671101956
valid reason for anything
>>671116912
Sanders, if he ever became president which he won't, Hillary has everything rigged from her side, he'd be a lame duck old cunt who could not do anything.
>>671115472
Here are the waiting queues for getting cancer treatment in Norwegian hospitals.
The red is how many days it takes on average.
>>671116802
It happens surprisingly often
>>671117276
love these kneejerk responses
you wouldn't see $1/hr wages. you know why? b/c that's not remotely enough to pay rent. SO NOBODY'S GONNA TAKE THAT JOB, DUMBASS
>>671116852
Lies told by socialist governments
>>671117471
Much like the lame duck we have now
>>671100771
>/b/
>voting
>>671117221
>says the jew shilling for jewish invented communism
>>671117471
There's no reason why he couldnt, though i see why people think he wouldnt be able to. Though if you ACTUALLY pay attention and listen to how he would go about his plans, there's hope.
>>671117915
Backroom deal by The Witch. Grandpa has no chance to even run.
>>671117915
Thing is though that he would be great on a local scale like on a city council or mayor, but on a global scale there is no fucking way he could go toe to toe with puitn. It's be like Tyson fighting a old old old jew.
Capitalism is great, as long as fundamental basics are being provided to everyone, and core systems of a society are being regulated. The most obvious ones are education, health care, financial market, legal system, and general infrastructure. These are the backbone of any society and everyone should get access regardless of income. Especially if a country can effort it.
Problem is that in the US everything is thrown in the political propaganda mashine with terms like socialists, communists, radicals, extremists, fascists being tossed around without arguing the problems honestly. I am sure most don't even know what these mean.
I'm voting for trump because Trups tax plan of
0% -> $0-25,000
10% -> $25,000 - 50,000
20% -> $50,000 - 150,000
25% -> $150,000 and up
will bankrupt this country.
I mean how do people think that lowering taxes on everyone across the board will solve our debt problem. the people at the bottom holding the country up will not need to pay taxes any more and the rich will just pocket the money they save on taxes like they always do and not invest it back into the economy.
>>671117594
they will when its the only thing they can get
>>671118277
nice dubs :D
>>671112316
>Zionist Jew
People really believe this shit...
>>671118536
>:D
Goddamn is it summer already?
>>671100771
The majority of Sanders voters are uninformed and uneducated kids who just want free stuff
>>671117615
In NZ. It's true, 'merrifats can't handle the truth.
>>671117817
lol you must be retarded if you think I want a regime change. True communism has never existed anyways. I'm just saying, I like my states Republican and my nation Democratic.
>>671118828
No, i am in fact a part of the LGBT community, and Bernie Sanders is the only viable option for us
>>671119073
Get the fuck off my /b/ you literal fucking faggot
>>671118242
No they don't. My manager thinks that socialism is taking control of the means of production. He literally thinks socialism is communism.
>>671119073
>only viable option
b/c you can't be sexually deviant unless sanders is president?
>>671118277
can nobody refute this?
>>671119073
Ok then, his supporters are faggots and niggers. Yeah he has no chance, most people base their choice on more than their policy on poofs and carpet munchers.
>>671117565
Maybe in shit tier countries. Not somewhere like Canada. It just doesn't. I mean yeah people die. Death happens. But they don't sit there on a waiting list for life threatening shit. That lie needs to stop.
>>671106575
But if you were living in New York $15 an hour would be laughable>>671106593
>>671100771
I'm voting because public higher education needs to be our number one priority as well as cutting the military budget. You shouldn't be asking that on 4chan because most people are fascists or edgy conservatives shouting racist slurs. /thread
OP is faggot confirmed
>>671119017
Are you saying that Capitalism is in theory a perfect system? Cause it's not, but I like my capitalism, there's just a thing as too much. I feel like you keep making strong assumptions about me, my friend.
Daily reminder that standardized healthcare plans to save more than 10,000 a year per citizen.
>>671119726
/thread forshure
>>671119434
bump
>>671119073
I'm a faggot and I support Trump 100%
>>671119291
Oh yea. He also advocates a flat tax instead of % income. That's how little he knows. Most in this thread are equally knowledgeable.
Consider the other options to Bernie.
Trump. I love that he's a racist fuck, but honestly he shouldn't be winning.
Cruz. Look at what this asshole has voted for and said publicly.
Hillary. You want another Clinton? You want a lying, law breaking bitch who would be in prison if she wasn't protected by the system? She voted for the Iraq war. She's basically a republican that calls herself a democrat.
In fact, most of the democrat and republican politicians are virtually the same, except for a few issues they publicize to divide people into factions that can't reconcile with each other to perpetuate their power over your votes.
Bernie Sanders is the only one running who gives a flying fuck about you. Vote for him.
>>671119612
You canadians die ALOT in your sub tier health system. I genuinely feel bad for you
>>671117541
That could say anything.
>>671119889
It is a perfect system, the problem is what we have now isn't pure capitalism.
>>671120249
>Sanders is the only one running who gives a flying fuck about you
oh my god. do you actually believe this?
>>671119968
At the cost of quality of care, massive wait times, rationing of care...
Having Bernie for Pres is only 1/2 of the equation. What congressmen are you voting for?
>uuh huhuhuh i dont know because i have a loose grasp on teh politcal systelms
>>671106575
Minimum wage is ALREADY $15/hr in Seattle, you fucking twit.
>your country is shit if you make $15/hr delivering pizza
I make MORE than that delivering pizza in the US on tips, even though base-pay is less than minimum wage. Clueless, prejudiced faggots like you have NO CLUE how difficult the job is or how much PERSONAL LIABILITY drivers take on in exchange for a chance at some tips.
Basically, shut the fuck up, you whiny, privileged, uninformed shitlord.
>>671119726
Fuck off cuck
>>671120301
I'm american. But it's just stupid to believe that happen. You get healthcare right away if it's life threatening.
>>671120249
>Bernie Sanders is the only one running who gives a flying fuck about you
>>671120406
Do you not?
>>671120340
Lungekreft = Lungcancer
Brystkreft = Breastcancer
Tykktarmkreft = Coloncancer
>>671120521
Years long waiting lists, substandard care, increased mortality... How many times do I have to say it?
>>671120503
I live in Norway and I make like 15 USD / hr after taxes, and I don't have to worry about healthcare or college. I can barely speak Norweigan too.
>>671120205
bump.
>>671120630
BRUH, you can't be serious
Writing in Ron Paul again. Fugg off gommie sgum.
>>671120503
man the fuck up & get a real fucking job.
>>671120393
We were the closest any country could get to pure Capitalism, but monopolies happened, so it had to change. It's not perfect, nothing is perfect within human nature.
>>671120630
You can't be serious... He's a socialist, a pure psychopath! He's literally incapable of caring about others.
>>671120713
Somebody's got to die, and I'd be damned if it's only the average joe making enough to feed the family.
>>671120731
>Muslim immigrant who goes straight on welfare detected
>>671120736
Bump
>>671120249
I'm cringing. How delusional are you to think a presidential candidate gives a shit about you? Of course he's telling you things you want to hear. He's applying for a job.
>>671120869
Monopolies only happen due to government intervention. lrn2economics
http://capitalism.org/monopolies/how-are-all-harmful-monopolies-created/
If we don't have a government, we won't have monopolies
>>671120731
Oh and BTW I'm a server at a restaurant. On minimum wage.
>>671105326
You can thank the fuckstains in eastern Canada for electing that faggot.
>>671119726
>>671120124
Overturning Citizens United is more important, and Bernie Sanders is the only one running on that platform.
>everyone has their own priorities
My father is a doctor, and his highest priority is GUN CONTROL, because that's the shit he deals with in his life. Sanders isn't his favorite.
>>671120934
Oh yes, kill the rich people! Every time I talk to a socialist, you folks rant and rave about your violent fantasies about killing the rich.
>>671120983
American caucasian, actually. If I was shitskin they would never hire me.
>>671121120
>My father is a doctor, and his highest priority is GUN CONTROL
What a fucking cuck your dad is! What's wrong with him??? Doesn't he want people to defend themselves?
>>671121137
I meant exactly what I said. I don't want anyone to die, but nobody has a right to live more than someone else because he has more money. I'm all about equality.
>>671121310
Nah dude. Some people are definitely more important than others.
>>671121310
You're an idiot. A rich person provides more to society so logically they have more of a right to life. So a health system where you have to have good insurance or pay for yourself is thereby the most moral. The worthless parasites don't get care and die off, the hardworking producers get good care and live. It's just, moral, and good.
>>671121120
>my opinion is more relevant than yours
ok
>>671120827
>real fucking job
You mean being paid LESS to sit in a box all day instead of running around outside?
NO THANKS, RETARD
My career path is impacted in this city, so we're moving, but food delivery is a GREAT way to make cash if you're a good driver.
>except for all the stupid faggots like yourself.
>>671121310
>nobody has a right to live more than someone else because he has more money
in a perfectly fair world, maybe. but medical services cost money, so...
>>671121120
>Overturning Citizens United
Citizens United was correctly decided, and if you disagree, please re-read the First Amendment. Criminalizing speech on account on its political content isn't something that first-world countries should do.
>>671121045
Although my vote hasn't changed you gave me something to think about, I'll be sure to inquire the political scientists in my University about this, thank you Anon. Goodluck in the elections.
>>671121490
Here's some rich people that don't give a fuck and pay themselves!
Fucking sheep.
>>671121490
You must be a libertarian. Good for you brah.
>>671121517
ya, i can tell from your attitude that you definitely deserve to be making a lot more
>>671121551
Oh fuck off, it's a moral argument. Poor people are worth less, end of story. Fucking bleeding hearts...
>>671121551
I don't think you understand Canada's healthcare system.
>>671121008
yeah, Bernie predicted exactly what we wanted to hear back in the 60's and has been saying the same things he did back then, not because he actually believes those things, no because he knew back in college in the 60's that one day, he might become president if he would just express his politically hugely unpopular opinions for decades . This is all just a 50-60 year long con from a political mastermind.
you're dumb as fuck anon, go cringe in a corner.
>>671120827
>real fucking job
>makes MORE than what is required for "something you could make a career out of"
kek, stay mad working your REAL JOB for peanuts, you fucking loser.
>>671121571
Well good on you for being open to the other side! The world needs more people like you, gentleanon. I'd be curious as to what your profs would say.
>>671121611
Those are corporations retard.
>>671119291
It's post WWII propaganda speech.
Another thing seems to be that folks haven't seem to grew out of their college football years - it's more about winning or losing rather that arriving at a solution after healthy discussions and examination of arguments.
I am all for capitalism and free market, but there are things that should live outside that system.
>>671121558
Money isn't speech. You must be a retard not to know that lol.
>>671121685
Libertarian master race reporting!
>>671121722
When he was a worthless NEET right?
>>671121869
Bait alert
>>671122013
When he was fighting for civil rights. Worth his weight in gold to me.
>>671121751
>monthly employment
interesting
clearly, providing a liveable minimum wage has caused people to no longer need to take MULTIPLE PART-TIME JOBS. Maybe some households don't even need to have BOTH parents working all day any more, leaving someone to care for children.
Unemployment is not a problem in Seattle, despite that recent trend employment is still VERY HIGH.
>>671122215
FIghting for the rights of spoiled niggers... worked out great!
>>671105081
i've seen this multiple times... what's the implied reference? "300" and that pit?
>>671121869
>too fucking stupid to know about Citizens United
kill yourself. NOW
>>671102021
Rawn Paul is dead and his son Runt Paul is a faggot.
>>671100829
>the common Bernie voter
>>671122400
He's a socialist and wants to create mass purges like in every other communist regime. Kill the rich people and all that.
>>671122342
This mentality will not get you far.
>>671111554
A doctor deserves that money for all that school and work. And yeah a lot of our best programs are socialist ones like police, fire department, school, post office etc. Adopting SOME socialist infrastructure is great, we've already done it. Don't ever go full socialist.
>>671121558
>corporations can SPEAK
uh huh, sure they can
>by using MILLIONS OF DOLLARS
of course, who would legislate closing their ears to speech like that???
You are cancer
>>671121501
>everyone has their own priorities
are you fucking illiterate?
>>671106354
Considering how Canadian provinces are in charge of their own systems.
Places like Ontario used to have a good system, but the libtards just turned it into an administrative clusterfuck with 7 layers of management and front line staff being laid off to pay their salaries. Alberta just has a huge problem when it comes to access to doctors and procedures for rural areas(like if you live in wainwright Alberta and need a CT scan, you have to either wait in line for lloydminster, or go to edmonton. both over an hour's drive). Quebec has shitty wait times because they have the same problem as Ontario's but much worse. Saskatchewan's heathcare system is improving greatly thanks to getting the fucking NDP out and the saskatchewan party in to fix that broken system.
>>671122554
ah thanks
>>671105165
Watch, Canada one day ends in a giant war with Nato, with this guy as hitler, and capitalists being the jews.
>>671122641
Look at the BLM niggers, how unbelievably entitled and spoiled they are. They were honestly better off before the civil rights movement, and far better behaved. They didn't murder each other to such a degree pre civil rights
>>671122683
Most of the money goes to the insurance companies, medical equipment comp and big pharma.
>>671116174
Actually we've been in cold war status for a couple years now.
>>671122302
Man they could shit in your mouth and you'd insist they just thought you were hungry. Higher minimum wage causes lower employment and small businesses to be edged out of existence.
>>671121228
>triggered as fuck
KEK, what a pathetic little gun nut
He hates guns because they kill A LOT of people, especially CHILDREN, but he is legally prohibited from trying to address the issue thanks to the NRA's vast political influence.
>>671122683
>Adopting SOME socialist infrastructure is great
Absolutely not! The market handles everything far better and far more morally
>>671116480
Engineering cures is way fucking more that 8.00 an hour, it might be worth more than say, $15 an hour. Get off your ass and get a career, not a job.
>>671122915
Not far from the truth if he were full socialist.
>>671100771
Because /b/ is full of retards. Who else would they vote for?
>>671122939
>smaller businesses edged out
YOU'RE SO FUCKING STUPID
If your profit isn't more than what you're paying in employee costs, then the business is nothing but a doomed hobby anyway, you have absolutely no business sense at all.
>$15/hr minimum wage is shitting in your mouth
quit your hyperbolic bitching, you clueless partisan hack.
>>671123053
Corps manipulate the market with government and price fixing all the time.
>>671122958
Brilliant! Get rid of guns from all law abiding citizens so only criminals have them. What could go wrong??
>>671122683
New zealand
>socialist health system
>doctors still have private clinics unlike your misinformation.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11593835
>>671121490
Honestly one of the dumbest things I've read in a long time. Congrats anon
>>671122920
Caucasian suburbians are just as if not more entitled than the folks at BLM
>>671123053
>this is what conservatives actually believe
KEK
>>671123318
Good job refuting my point there.
>>671119073
Why? There's nothing you need, you can already marry who you want. What the fuck do you need? "lol pay for my surgery" "lol i wanna go in the women's bathroom instead" fuck off.
>>671122958
We should make drug dealing illegal while we are at it. And murder.
>>671123292
>parroting NRA propaganda
Criminals get their guns the same way other people do. Also, criminals are not necessarily the problem.
>massively wasteful military spending is no problem
>catastrophically, irresponsibly low taxes on the largest and most profitable corporations in history are no problem
>investing a fraction of that money on things that will actually make our country better, stronger, smarter, and more resilient?
>w-w-we can't afford it!!!1!!1!
Cuckservatives, when will they learn?
>>671123324
Big difference being that niggers provide nothing of value to society besides leeching off welfare and being criminals, and white suburbians drive the economy.
>>671121490
Lol did you ever think the rich need the bottom 90% to be rich. With out them they wouldn't be rich.
>>671122939
Nope. New Zealand and Australia, higher min wage, lower unemployment than murrica. Explain that brainwashed faggot.
>>671123536
>drug dealing and murder aren't illegal
>>671100771
I'm a democrat, so I will do what I feel is right for the democratic party to succeed in the long term.
And because of that, I'll vote for Trump. The democrats are a little too high on life right now and starting to embrace anti-intellectualism and, for lack of a better term, meme politics.
They need tough love, that's all there is to it.
>>671123594
>criminals are not necessarily the problem.
wat... Law abiding citizens are the problem in your world?
>>671120503
>tips
>handouts
Oh man. you saying in some states things cost more/less then in other placers? Oh I had no idea. Not the whole country has to be like that shit hole you live in. The economy is as decent as it is BECAUSE of these differences. Not because were all the same.
>>671123622
Doesn't matter, they're still worth more
>>671109508
Love how you ignored the fact that he never made money. His worth is not the same as in money that he worked for and owned. Sanders is a bum who never earned a paycheck until 40, and had 65,000 racked up in credit and debt at that time.
Not to mention he dropped out of Chicago university.
>>671120308
>Sharing anything from Cuckington Post
kys
>>671123727
Dude you can't compare those country's to the us. Those country's have their shit together
>>671123053
We've already done it shitlord, and you rely on them almost every day.
>>671123918
The funniest part to me is that niggers hate him, despite the fact he fought for their rights. Stupid nignogs attacking their only political ally!
>>671123615
Black people don't stop contributing to the economy just because your delusions would deem it necessary to make yourself not look like a huge fucking twat on the web. Ludicrous.
What can we say about both Caucasians and African-Americans? The vast majority contribute to the economy, the vast majority are not on welfare, and the vast majority do not resort to crime.
>>671124111
>shitlord
SJW detected
>>671116912
Racism is good. We need a racist president to get rid of the niggers and towel heads.
>>671123888
It's all just a bull shit game. If we wanted to stop playing we could. They have no real power over us.
>>671123752
If you make something illegal, and people still want to do it, they will continue to do what they please. Simple as that.
>>671121490
>rich person provides more to society
only because they HAVE more. If that money was spread out amongst the middle class, it would be used more efficiently and have a more productive effect on our national economy and infrastructure.
>morality
KEK, don't even attempt it, it's clearly a foreign concept to you.
Not only is providing stable living conditions to everyone MORAL, it's also FINANCIALLY RESPONSIBLE AND PROFITABLE.
Take a class or something, you retard
>>671124134
Have you seen the stats comparing whites to blacks? Niggers are on welfare far more than whites, commit far more crime than whites, and are a massive drain on the nation.
>>671123983
Did you think that was actually from the Huff Post? LOLOLOLOLLOLOLOL
>>671122924
You need insurance, you need medical equipment (the doctors don't even really pay for that) and big pharma is just one of the setbacks of capitalism itself.
>>671123117
I'm a Web Dev I make much more than 15$/hr didnt go to school and have never been formaly trained the idea of working for less then 20$/hr sickens me
>>671124260
>Not only is providing stable living conditions to everyone MORAL, it's also FINANCIALLY RESPONSIBLE AND PROFITABLE.
Damn shame the thread is going to 404 any minute now, I'd love to school your socialist bitch ass on this.
>>671124243
>implying drug dealing and murder wouldn't be more common if it was legalized
>>671124293
You sound like you're disagreeing with me, but you couldn't say that anything I said was disagreeable. I would love to see those stats if you would post them.
>>671124165
Not even close nigga but you still didn't refute my fucking facts.
>Tfw you don't even know shitlord came from Reddit and 4Chan
>>671124394
go ahead and try, you loud-mouthed hollow little bitch
>>671123447
There's nothing to refute. You just made a statement that's both morally and intellectually bankrupt. You basically said a system that allows people to be financially ruined or die if they can't pay for prohibitively expensive medical care is justified because they're "parasites". If you truly think rich people are the hardworking producers in America, or the entire world for that matter, you're beyond help.
>>671124485
Thread's about to 404
Start here
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_crime_in_the_United_States
>>671124349
I'm talking about all the money that goes into medical, doctors take away is a small % from the whole. Dr are actually getting screwed.
>>671124562
>says the believer in the most violent ideology the world has ever seen
>>671124380
Good for you I heard about that shit, sounds cash. But that's just some easy job you found, it cant be every fucking job. If you don't want to make less than $20 an hour than don't get a shit job.
>>671124408
Here's the thing though: Citizens will follow the laws, criminals will keep their guns. Does that sound like a good time to you?
>>671124504
REKT
>>671122302
Implying you can run a household of you plus spouse plus children in fucking Seattle on one job at fucking 15/hr. Please go fuck yourself with a cactus
>>671121490
Stockholm Syndrome: the post
>Don't hurt da JOB CREATORS, they have been so benevolent and good to us lowly unworthy poor-fags
I am voting sanders for higher education funds. Great knowledge is the best quality anyone can have. His views on climate change is really important to me. I'm 22 years old but I know everythings going to shit soon. I like Trump, he has good ideas, but talking to my colleagues, it's easy to see that most Americans are attracted to him because of his personality and the way he portrays his, "fuck you", image. I'll save the walls and the memes for another time.
I'm voting sanders for president, if possible I will. Extremely small chance since this is already rigged for hillary.
My 2 centsss
>>671105551
I'm so glad someone realizes this.
>>671124125
Lol, he has his heart in the right place but socialism is a stupid form of government that never works.
Slapping "democratic" infront of socialism doesn't change the fact that increasing minimum wage will result in inflation or loss of jobs and price increase.
His policy's are absolute fucking lies and garbage. Why should a man who never earned a single dime until 40, decide how currency is going to be distributed. Fucking college liberals thinking everything will be free.
Nothing is free faggot.