Give me one good reason why we Muslims shouldn't just chop your heads off?
>protip: you can't
#ISLAMWILLDOMINATE
...because religion isnt compatible with the modern world?
>>710386247
All religions are not the same. Christianity is the only one that preaches you are not good enough to earn your grace but God offers it to you anyway bc He loves you, and that you just have to follow Jesus Chrisf as a disciple( aka really love Him bc you want to it can't be forced nor can you fake it. This is like a green thumb position it's for everyone not fancy clergymen or anything)
Other religions preach that you can earn eternal life if you "do good enough" like it's an exam
>>710385776
Bc I don't want my head chopped off
>>710386247
And your libcuck, homosexul, feminist gluttonous, warmongering society is?
>westerner pls
>>710386621
>Bc I don't want my head chopped off
>implying what you monkeys want is important
Jihad is mandatory. Islam has the right to defend itself.
>>710386627
No need to try this hard
>>710386912
>can't refute with logic
>"hurr dur u is baiting..."
Islam=love
Islam has defeated Europe... what chance does America have?
>>710386627
Well... yeah?
Having a few phony people act like clowns is far better than having a stone age society run by a death cult.
>>710385776
Because that's not what a crescent moon even looks like.
>>710388412
>A few phony people
Found the ignorant libcuck in denial... I suppose you also believe that "a few" black people are responsible for the high crime rate and Islam has "a few" terrorists...
Lol, westerners are so stupid.
>>710385776
#THEWORLDOFWARCRAFT
>>710388765
Implying a logo is supposed to depict reality... You realize the stars on your American flag don't really have 5 pointy sides, right?
>>710386627
>Liberal
>Warmongering
Pick one my friend.
Bring it, goat fucking, shit finger. nose picking fag.
>>710389098
Found the Hillary shill...
>>710385776
>we
Go back to /pol/ you nugget.
>>710386627
>buzzword
>buzzword
>buzzword
>>710385776
Fuck off, sand nigger. Come anywhere near me and I will blow your fucking head off you goat raping camel fucker.
>>710389259
Fuck Hillary, she's as big a cunt as Trump.
>>710385776
>Not one more step Saracen!
Deus Vult, scum
>>710388188
Why do Muslims like looking at hairy balls and assholes?
>>710389696
Lol, your parent won't even let you deus vult...
Not unless you move out the basement and get a job, fedoraboy.
>>710385776
>Give me one good reason why we Muslims shouldn't just chop your heads off?
because it would kill us and thats an immoral thing to do - it's wrong
>>710388188
Lol, america could wipe Europe off the map.
>>710389696
>>710389866
>>710389977
>>710389612
Your sister and daughter already blew me off...
REPENT ATHEISTS!!!!!
>>710386627
>warmongering society
i live in the west and i don't know any christian. that wants to wage war.
and aren't you the one, who wants to chop our heads off? i know, quran prescribes hostility, xenophobia and offensive war, but why do you think, we would just accept that?
>>710386871
>Islam has the right to defend itself.
>threats to chop our heads off
thats offensive, not defensive
>>710390135
So even with all "muh technology", the westerners of Europe cannot win at war with America?
Yet the soldiers of Allah are defeating and attacking Americans successfully everyday.
It just goes to show that without Allah, you will never succeed. Learn from this, infidels.
>>710387712
you*re wrong, liar
read your stupid, aggressive, sexist, xenophobic book that prescribes offensive war:
Let’s see, what the quran concretely tells muslims to do:
"kill the infidels"
4:89
9:5 (non-believers have to pay, not to be killed)
9:111
47:35
61:4
Quran says, it’s ok and even normal to have slaves:
4:3
4:24
5:89
23:6
33:50
58:3
70:30
Sexism in the quran:
2:282
4:34
For Muslims, it's forbidden to be friends with unbelievers (and it shows):
3:28
3:118
4:89
4:144
5:51
5:57
60:1
As a muslim you HAVE to fight against non-believers:
2:216
2:286
4:74
4:76
4:95
8:39
8:59
8:60
9:111
9:29 (non-believers have to pay, not to be killed)
9:73
9:123
48:29
66:9
still think islam is love?
>>710388188
>Islam has defeated Europe
you are delusional. i don't see anything like this. you muslims are pathetic.
>>710388856
>Islam has "a few" terrorists...
i don't think that. i know, islam MEANS hostility against jews and christians and anything else, which is different. you want war? you can have it
>>710390446
>i live in the west and i don't know any christian. that wants to wage war.
That's because the westerners practice doublespeak.
>"we are a peaceful people"
>*invades, bombs, genocides, nukes, attacks, instigates, intimidates, loots and oppresses every other nation they come into contact with...
History has well documented this fact.
>and aren't you the one, who wants to chop our heads off? i know, quran prescribes hostility, xenophobia and offensive war, but why do you think, we would just accept that?
Because Jihad is prescribed for us to defend ourselves. You see we are not a liberal cuckold society. We aren't afraid to name our enemies nor do we lie about our intentions (except when using taqiyya).
>but why do you think, we would just accept that?
Same reason you expect us to accept your unjust wars and invasions.
>>710390027
>won't even let you deus vult...
learn the latin language, before using it. but i know, muslims have a problem with education - it would mean seeing the stupidity of the quran
>>710385776
man, i need my head. i use it all of the time. where would i put my hat if i didn't have a head?
>>710390744
>Blah blah blah
>I can google deliberately edited and misquoted verses because I have too little intellect to read and understand for myself.
>>710390620
kek muslims and their fake god are cowards
>>710391206
>That's because the westerners practice doublespeak.
what are you talking about? why do you think being ridiculous somehow promotes your stupid, aggressive nazi-ideology?
>>710391075
>i don't think that.
Yet you think your people have a "few" liberal cuckolds...
You are the epitome of delusional.
>>710391472
>being ridiculous
I don't see how...
>some uncivilised desert cult barely capable of basic reasoning, science or advancement
It'll be Empire of Dust all over again.
Oh and let's not forget China, who treats its muslims like inedible dogs.
>>710388188
Eurocuks are too faggoty to even hold a gun, they deserve what they get.
>>710387712
Islam = love of satan
>>710385776
How 'bout a magic trick?
>>710392009
You are delusional.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSm2sQ-YAfg
>>710391206
>>"we are a peaceful people"
>>*invades, bombs, genocides, nukes, attacks, instigates, intimidates, loots and oppresses every other nation they come into contact with...
i don't do that, i don't know anybody who does this. muslims cry for help all the time. they were in favour of getting rid of saddam hussein. they cry for help against assad. but if the us-government does, you call it a "christian crusade" (which shows, how stupid muslims are)
>Because Jihad is prescribed for us to defend ourselves.
threatening to chop our heads of is not an act of defense; it's an act of OFFENSIVE violence of course. are you stupid? can't you see the most basic logic thing, the contradiction?
>your unjust wars and invasions.
my war? which war did i fight? people here even protested against every war ever fought since 1945´, especially iraq-war of 2003.
>We aren't afraid to name our enemies nor do we lie about our intentions
who does?
muslims on the other hand even have an ideology, which tells them to hate christians and jews and attack them. its in the quran:
see here:
>>710390744
>>710389903
muslims like to fuck little boys in the ass
>>710391396
Yeah sure, we can see those pillars at work in Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan etc...
>>710392032
"Eurocucks" defeated muslims when they were strong .. what about you did fat pussies? bomb a bunch of dessert niggers flying safely with a plane? ...
>>710391396
you're wrong. i've read the quran. i know about you're intentions. and that you lie about it
>misquoted
HAHA, you are outstandingly stupid. i haven't even quoted anything. i have just named passages of the quran and named, what it says. do i really have to copy the passages in here?
>>710388188
0/10 made me reply
>mfw you fags fall for such obvious bait
>>710391519
>Yet you think your people have a "few" liberal cuckolds...
>liberal cuckolds
what does that even mean? you argue like a little child...or a muslim
>>710385776
Islam is a fad. Soon, all Abrahamic religions will fall.
>>710385776
>>710385776
This is why everybody hates Muslims, op. We'll get another chance to invade and massacre you pieces of shit
>>710391396
He didn't misquote tho he just gave you passages to read. Can you read jackass? You should pick up a Quran and read it
>>710391975
by just babbling something about "doublespleak".
>>710392298
>i don't do that, i don't know anybody who does this.
Oh, I guess the multi-billion dollar western war machine that is constantly causing chaos around the world is simply a figment of my imagination... all because an anon libcuck "doesn't feel" like this is a thing... more doublespeak? Why am I not surprised.
>threatening to chop our heads of is not an act of defense; it's an act of OFFENSIVE violence of course. are you stupid? can't you see the most basic logic thing, the contradiction?
Then why don't you give up your 2nd amrndment? Shooting people is "an act of offensive violence"... it's the most basic logic. You clearly don't want us to defend ourselves from your attacks on Islam and Muslims, yet you think you deserve the right to defend yourself againsr home invaders.
>>710385776
Next poster has to Ctrl - V the last thing he saved.
>>710392292
>you're delusional, Islam is going to win
Being the last to die in a desolate wasteland isn't winning.
And Islam can only produce wastelands.
>>710385776
why would a muslim want to chop my head off?
I'm not a muslim and therefore I can not be an apostate
I am starting to think you don't know your islam m8
3/10 for making me reply
>>710392356
>Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan etc...
>all countries that the US has played major military roles in...
I'm sure Uncle Sam has convinced that this is all just a biiig coincidence... no relation whatsoever.
Meanwhile, the Muslim countries untouched by western filth are thriving.
>muh coincidence
>>710385776
Because well fuck your shit up sandnigger
>They have pointy sticks
>We have nukes
What the fuck would you Muhammad cock suckers do with a Nuke?
>Mfw you can't drop a nuke from a camel
>>710392691
this IS bait, yes, BUT muslims think they can feel, that they're right, if nobody contradicts them. thatswhy it's fun, to show them, how stupid their arguing is. they want to lie and deceive, so it's fun to clarify their lying
>>710392602
>HAHA, you are outstandingly stupid. i haven't even quoted anything. i have just named passages of the quran and named, what it says. do i really have to copy the passages in here?
Yeah, but you won't dare post the quote because you know your propaganda will fall apart once people are able to see what you changed/ommited.
The sites you copied the verse numbers from changed it too.
>>710393456
there are literally no muslims in this thread you fucking retard
>>710393327
>Muslim countries untouched by western filth
Picture not related I hope?
>Designed by western architects
>paid by western investors
>built and supervised by Chinese workers
>muslim contribution: literally nothing
>>710393406
Even your own brethren don't believe mere technology and nukes can help you to win against America... see >>710390135
Yet, by Allah, Muslims are contesting America everyday.
As a muslim, I want to ask:
Why should muslims chop anyone's head ?
>>710393001
>constantly causing chaos around the world is simply a figment of my imagination
you mean like ongoing wars in almost every islamic country? for example shia against sunnis? assad against islamists? civilians against assad? and so on? muslims are aggressive. it's in the quran. they have to hate everything that is different.
>multi-billion dollar western war machine that is constantly causing chaos around the world
most western wars were good wars. if they cause chaos, it's because muslims want chaos rather than democracy.
>more doublespeak
ok, you have no idea, what this term means. arguing is not doublespeak. grab a book, goddammit
>Then why don't you give up your 2nd amrndment?
thats not a western thing, but a us-thing.
>Shooting people is "an act of offensive violence"
and you get arrested if you attack somebody. so, it's not allowed as you just supposed.
>it's the most basic logic
thats what i just said. can't you idiots can't even think of your own arguments? oh right, you have none.
>You clearly don't want us to defend ourselves from your attacks on Islam and Muslims
what attacks? who attacks muslims? what westerner ever attacked muslims just for being muslims? muslims on the other hand are prescribed by the quran to fight everything, that is different.
>>710393830
>>Designed by western architects
>>of Owings, Skidmore and Merril
>Who had the foundations for modern skyscraper design pioneered and developed by a Muslim who worked for guess who?
>Owings, Skidmore and Merril..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fazlur_Rahman_Khan
The westerners who built the Burj pioneered nothing. Merely worker bees who learnt their work from the ideas of a Muslim.
>>710393327
you are aware, that westerners planned and mostly built the burj khalifa?
>Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan
people there behave like idiots. they are the ones, killing their own people
>Meanwhile, the Muslim countries untouched by western filth are thriving.
lol, not really. compare it to the western countries.
>>710393627
you have never read any of these threads then
>>710391206
You literally subvert your own people and when it fails bc they see the inherent evil and wrong in Islam you use violence to put them down or kill them and others.
>>710394568
>Bangladeshi American
>American
I see you lost your own argument.
Just like how you lost land to Israel.
And you cried so much, that the jew took pity on you and gave some of it back to you.
A teensy weensy little country that you so obsessively hate took pity on you.
I can only imagine the utter humiliation you must feel whenever you see the accursed jew living better lives than you and your entire inbred family could ever dream of.
https://youtu.be/NuQtSUTQf0k
Because Captain fucking Bible won't have that shit. He would explode all their mechanized spiders into fucking rubble. He is a god damned bad ass motherfucker he is. And Pizza.
>>710394360
>good wars
LOLOLOLOLOL
WEsterners actually believe the bullshit their politicians tell them
All your arguments are strawman arguments based on false assumptions and deceit.
>you mean like ongoing wars in almost every islamic country?
Implying the US isn't the driving force behind all of them
>and you get arrested if you attack somebody. so, it's not allowed as you just supposed.
So why weren't millions of Americans arrested when they dropped bombs on Muslim families?
Westerners are such liars. Claiming one thing, practising another. Bloody hypocrites.
>what attacks? who attacks muslims? what westerner ever attacked muslims just for being muslims?
All of them. They even made up a story about WMDs to attack Muslims.
>muslims on the other hand are prescribed by the quran to fight everything, that is different.
To fight evrything that threatens your people. You libcucks could learn a thing or two about this...
>>710393546
>Yeah, but you won't dare post the quote because you know your propaganda will fall apart once people are able to see what you changed/ommited.
you're wrong. don't you muslims read your own book? few examples to educate you:
2:216
"Fighting has been enjoined upon you"
4:76
Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah , and those who disbelieve fight in the cause of Taghut. So fight against the allies of Satan
4:95
Not equal are those believers remaining [at home] - other than the disabled - and the mujahideen, [who strive and fight] in the cause of Allah with their wealth and their lives. Allah has preferred the mujahideen through their wealth and their lives over those who remain [behind], by degrees.
8:39
And fight them until there is no fitnah and [until] the religion
48:29
Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah ; and those with him are forceful against the disbelievers
47:35
So do not weaken and call for peace while you are superior; and Allah is with you and will never deprive you of [the reward of] your deeds.
>>710393327
All muslim majority and controlled countries who kill their own people and mirder gays Whoah what a coincidence!
>>710395364
You mean dropped bombs on terrorists who kill in the name of allah aka satan?
>>710395104
>>Bangladeshi American
>>American
>I see you lost your own argument
>Implying Islam is a nationality.
Damn, westerners have such low IQs. No wonder we have to go over there and teach them things... which they then claim to have developed all on their. They are like autistic children.
>>710394568
this is the engineer of burj khalifa
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_F._Baker_(engineer)
>worker bees
engineer
>>710385776
Because then they won't have anyone to fuck them in the ass.
the problem is not with islam, it's the Arabian race. A bloodthirsty barbaric race. Even if islam doesn't exist they'll still doing a lot of barbaric things.
because it isn't nice ^^
>>710395691
>No wonder we have to go over there and teach them things
this can only mean, you are so stupid, you don't even know your own stupidity
would you please compare the western achievements with the islamic achievements (are there even some?). your wishful thinking is showing
>>710391206
Since when was genocide ever a thing westerners have accomplished?
>>710395364
>WEsterners actually believe the bullshit their politicians tell them
i have never listened to a politican. i study.
>All your arguments are strawman arguments
this can only mean, you have no idea, what a strawman-fallacy is. in this case, it would mean, i would assume something you have said, but haven't. what has that to do with politicians allegedly deceving us? you don't really want to argue about the truth. you are just one stupid muslim, who wants to present his irrelevant and aggressive culture like it has achieved something good.
>Implying the US isn't the driving force behind all of them
shia against sunnis? really? isis against assad? you stupid muslims think there is a us-conspiracy behind everything, because you can't face, that you can't do nothing good. all you can do is hate and provoke war and hate
>So why weren't millions of Americans arrested when they dropped bombs on Muslim families?
no, because this never happened. MILLIONS of americans came over to the middle east and dropped bombs? goddamit, you are stupid.
>what westerner ever attacked muslims just for being muslims?
>All of them. They even made up a story about WMDs to attack Muslims.
>All of them.
ok, you are an idiot. do you have any source for that delusional assumption?
>To fight evrything that threatens your people.
wrong, see here:
>>710390744
>>710395365
it seems, you are the one, who has no idea of HIS OWN "religion"
>>710385776
>religion of peace
>#islamwilldominate
>peace
>domination
>pick one and choke on it faggot
>>710395735
I'm an engineer. But I have never invented or pioneer anything. Much like him, I apply the principles developed by greater engineers.
You are claiming that without the American, the skyscraper in Dubai would not have been possible, when in fact the opposite is true. Without the Muslim, the American would not have the knowledge to build the skyscraper.
>you're welcome infidels.
>>710385776
>Give me one good reason why we Muslims shouldn't just chop your heads off?
>Pic related
>>710396145
Since you could barely find a native American in AMERICA!
>>710385776
why you worship a small pines? i mean if you like dicks so much may be look for somrthing bigger then yours?
>>710385776
your not good anuf you bronze age imbosiles how can you ever compare to the whites of the west your country is a war torn shithole lashing out at everything that dost agree with you. shot this want to take over the world and instead focus in rigging down isis and get a new president preferable someone from the wast who can bring you outa the crime ridden slums fuck that moon rock you worship islam is holding you back from being a great person but untill that day your allways gonna be a peice of filth and even if you blow yourself up your name will be forgotton within a week your lucky that we havent gon on the 4th crusade yet
>>710395365
>"Fighting has been enjoined upon you"
Nothing bad here. defending your people is a noble value you libcuck homosexuals could use.... unless you want to continue holding hands and singing kumbaya under the banner of forced diversity?
>Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah , and those who disbelieve fight in the cause of Taghut. So fight against the allies of Satan
Once again. I will fight the allies of Satan. What's wrong with that? I don't want people coming here to murder my family and bring their pagan ways to my land.
>Not equal are those believers remaining [at home] - other than the disabled - and the mujahideen, [who strive and fight] in the cause of Allah with their wealth and their lives. Allah has preferred the mujahideen through their wealth and their lives over those who remain [behind], by degrees.
Yup. we revere our Mujahideen the same way you do your soldiers. Because they fight in defence of their people according to the two verses above.
>8:39?
Hmm... I wonder why it's edited so abruptly...
Perhaps we should read the WHOLE VERSE
>8:38 Say to those who have disbelieved [that] if they cease, what has previously occurred will be forgiven for them. But if they return [to hostility] - then the precedent of the former [rebellious] peoples has already taken place.
>8:39 And fight them until there is no fitnah and [until] the religion, all of it, is for Allah . And if they cease - then indeed, Allah is Seeing of what they do.
Deceitful little piggy, aren't you? Deliberatley cropping and editing out crucial parts that alter the meaning...
More to come. But I think you get the picture. You are clearly spewing manufactured propaganda. Grow up.
>>710396945
>>"Fighting has been enjoined upon you"
>Nothing bad here. defending your people
there is not one word about being attacked first. it just says: you HAVE to fight. can't you read?
>Once again. I will fight the allies of Satan
again: you can't read. it says
>>Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah , and those who disbelieve
don't you even want me to believe you? or do you just "win" an argument? if so, you are very childish
>>Not equal are those believers remaining [at home] - other than the disabled - and the mujahideen, [who strive and fight] in the cause of Allah with their wealth and their lives. Allah has preferred the mujahideen through their wealth and their lives over those who remain [behind], by degrees.
>Yup. we revere our Mujahideen the same way you do your soldiers.
we are talking about muslims and the quran now, remember?
and again, there is no talk of defense. if you have to go somewhere to fight (rather than staying at home), you are not defending anything, but attacking
>And if they cease - then indeed, Allah is Seeing of what they do.
so?`allah sees them and then what?
and if you fight, until there is no fitnah, than you don't stop, when the alleged attacker stops, but you go on until everybody accepted islam. as and you wouldn't have to racketeer non-believers, if you would really stop fighting, when some alleged attacker stops attacking you, then the following verse wouldn't make sense of course:
>9:29
Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture - [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled.
>Deceitful little piggy, aren't you? Deliberatley cropping and editing out crucial parts that alter the meaning...
so, as you can see, you are the deceiving little "piggy" (very cute actually)
>>710397444
>You are claiming that without the American, the skyscraper in Dubai would not have been possible
nope, thats not what i claimed. learn to read. i said "engineered"
>>710395691
>implying mr what's his name was a muslim
You're like BLM with their KANGZ 'N SHEIT, pretending important people were muslim just to cover up your own lack of productivity since Muhammad.
Still, the fact that Israel is superior to you in every way must really sting.
Especially since you wasted so much money and lives just to make a little dent in their Iron Dome.
You even have to get the UN (literally white people) to tell Israel to be nice to you.
Wow, that sure is impressive.
>>710398000
see here:
>>710398158
because none of you are athletic enough to do anything besides bomb us
>>710398401
arabs are very short actually, comparing to europeans
>>710398379
Proof that he wasn't?
if anyone is pulling a "we waz keengs" it's you, after falsely trying to take credit for our brother Fazlur's pioneering work.
Technically, the Willis Tower is "ours" too as it was designed and engineered by him.
Muslims are superior. We help you put up your tall buildings and we help you take them down too... never forget that.
>>710385776
Dont giva fuck. Eventually you short dick sheep fucking fag will die anyway.
>>710385776
i can't
>>710398000
funny you are talking about defence all the time, while writing things like:
>Give me one good reason why we Muslims shouldn't just chop your heads off?
>Islam has defeated Europe
so what now? do you want to kill us or not?
>>710385776
If you let me stick your dick in your 12 year old cousin, I'll believe as you do.
>>710385776
Because I'm Mexican
>>710397444
>I'm an engineer. But I have never invented or pioneer anything.
but it was the westerners, that invented these kinds of buildings, right? so actually this american-bangladeshi copied from westerners after all
"Put your sword back in its place," Jesus said to him, "for all who draw the sword will die by the sword.
(Matthew 26:52)
You're proud to be part of a cult religion of death, worshiping a deceiver who hates human beings and wants to kill them as fast as possible? In the Bible such a being is known as Satan, FYI
>>710385776
>Give me one good reason why we Muslims shouldn't just chop your heads off?
If you muslims don't destroy the European civilization....
I....
i just...
I can't express in words how much i will be disappointed.
>>710386627
He said world, which I'm guessing includes you unless you're in one of the stone age countries.
here's four
>>710385776
I don't even like pork, plus I can play some sick ass synth keyboard. Muslims love synth keyboard
This is now a Nazi appreciation thread,
>>710385776
fuck you i would rather kill myself than let you dirt motherfuckers touch me or even kill me, you are disgusting and a disgrace to the human race and that is saying a lot since there are pedos and child abusers all around us die in a ditch motherucker
>>710398158
>there is not one word about being attacked first. it just says: you HAVE to fight. can't you read?
Not one word has been spoken about fighting on the offensive either. The following verses clearly indicate about times of war... War to protect the Muslim peopl. Yes, I can read.... but unlike you I have the attention span to finish THE ENTIRE CHAPTER.
>don't you even want me to believe you? or do you just "win" an argument? if so, you are very childish
Errrrrmmmmm.... it says "those who disbelieve fight in the cause of the Taghut..."
Are you retarded or just stupid?
>and again, there is no talk of defense. if you have to go somewhere to fight (rather than staying at home), you are not defending anything, but attacking
There is no talk of offense either. You just insist on your delusions being true.
>and if you fight, until there is no fitnah, than you don't stop, when the alleged attacker stops, but you go on until everybody accepted islam. as and you wouldn't have to racketeer non-believers
It seems you never read the WHOLE VERSE Like I asked you to. It does indeed say that.
>9:29 .
Um, again the short attention spanned piglets cannot possibly read an entire book or chapter. See, Muslims have logic. When we read, we start with something called "the first sentence" and progress to... wait for it... "the last sentence". This is how you read and understand, my little hooved friend.
Now read the first sentence of chapter 9 to understand what, when and who these instructions are for.
>9:1 [This is a declaration of] disassociation, from Allah and His Messenger, to those with whom you had made a treaty among the polytheists.
>to those with whom you had made a treaty among the polytheists.
>you had
These instructions to fight are for a specific TIME, PLACE and PEOPLE.
Nicce attempt at rationolizing your delusions, but you failed.
>>710385776
>>710391396
can you still eat ass while fasting?
>>710400723
>>710385776
because then they become radikal islamists - target for russian bombs
>>710401633
Only your sisters...
>>710385776
Because you are a piece of shit,because islam is shit.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=POJdu4HV-Ng
Protip:go wipe ur ass with stones like your gay prophet did
>>710401980
Pictures like this are dumb though. Muslims DON'T like women to be like this - she is likely to be murdered in a traditional muslim country.
>>710402225
That's right, Muslims like goat assholes.
Give me one reason why they should? It's not my fault that modern science proves their shitty beliefs to be wrong.
>>710385776
I'm gonna call you Mohammed
>>710402225
>is likely to be murdered in a traditional muslim country.
>Peaceful religion
>Kek
Muslim Man Brings White Woman To Tears !! Must Watch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=um4zsySOOV0
>>710402225
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EZDeLc-6Is
>>710402473
I also think it's worth noting I've only had one muslim friend, and he's the only muslim I've known whose first name wasn't Mohammed so STFU baited cunts
>>710402559
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TxLIeYAfzvA
>>710402473
Лалка не умеет в русский. Уноси свои кривые картинки, чухан.
>>710385776
BBQ.
It's sooooo evil but soooo good
Maybe if your imaginary friend didn't like it we could have fun?
>>710401379
>Not one word has been spoken about fighting on the offensive either.
yes there has. don't you understand what words say? or do you ignore it? again:
>>710398158
>if you have to go somewhere to fight (rather than staying at home), you are not defending anything, but attacking
>9:29
>Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture - [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled.
there are even more lines like this:
>9:29
>Fight those who do not believe in Allah
>9:73
>O Prophet, fight against the disbelievers and the hypocrites and be harsh upon them.
>9:123
>O you who have believed, fight those adjacent to you of the disbelievers and let them find in you harshness.
>8:39
>And fight them until there is no fitnah and [until] the religion
>and if you fight, until there is no fitnah, than you don't stop, when the alleged attacker stops, but you go on until everybody accepted islam
>47:35
>So do not weaken and call for peace while you are superior; and Allah is with you and will never deprive you of [the reward of] your deeds.
>8:59
>And let not those who disbelieve think they will escape.
>48:29
>Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah ; and those with him are forceful against the disbelievers,
just read and try to understand your own fucking book
>but unlike you I have the attention span to finish THE ENTIRE CHAPTER.
i read the whole quran. i don't see anything that changes these lines
>"those who disbelieve fight in the cause of the Taghut..."
so? you call the non-muslims unbelievers. thats not news
>There is no talk of offense either. You just insist on your delusions being true.
see above
>It seems you never read the WHOLE VERSE It does indeed say that.
so we agree?
>See, Muslims have logic.
LOOOL
>>710402477
Dubs checked
>>710402559
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klgwNxlPDRg
>>710391396
are you that emirati arab that posts on int?
>>710385776
بسم اله الجمال والغبار
الخداع@وما ادراك ما الخداع@فن الاضياع@والمني الذي يخرج من بين الصلائب والاضلاع@وتدمير العقل والابداع@والمسح بسبع حجرات@وتربية الحشرات@وقطع الرقاب عند الشكوكات@واغتصاب المكشفات@وشرب البول المالحات@المباركات المحللات المداويات@والفوز بعاهرات الجنات.
صدق بابا سنفور الخفي العظيم
In the name of the God of camels and dust
Deception@what makes you know what is deception@the art of misleading@and the semen which comes from between backbone.and ribs@and destroying thinking and creation@and wiping with 7 stones@and raising insects@and cutting necks at doubts@and raping revealers[non-hijabis]@and drinking salty urine@the blessed[urine] halal and healers@and winning the whores of the heavens.
The truth has been said by the invisible Papa smurf the great
>>710402906
I'm and ignorant white privileged faggot and I don't speak your language cunt
>>710403371
Even google translate doesn't speak your language
>>710403371
You're a lucky man, only snickering.
>>710401379
>>9:1 [This is a declaration of] disassociation, from Allah and His Messenger, to those with whom you had made a treaty among the polytheists.
>to those with whom you had made a treaty among the polytheists.
>you had
so it says:
>to whom you had made a treaty
(which means paying or get killed - not defensive)
and then:
>you should Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture - [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled.
so, to whom you made a treaty you should make a treaty or kill or they should pay? this merely proves my statement. why do you think this relativizes the prescription of offensive war?
>>9:29
and also:
>9:5
>it is said, that nonbelievers have to accept islam or pay or get killed. whats defensive about that? its offensive and a prescription to subjugate, thats not defending
>When we read, we start with something called "the first sentence" and progress to... wait for it... "the last sentence"
so this is muslim humour? you suck at that muslims
>>710403766
Google translate is not competent in the language.
>>710403766
Лалка не умеет в гугл транслейт.
>>710403955
Ik google translate isn't competent in any language really
>>710404295
What's that mean?
>>710404354
>Lalka can not in Google translate
>>710402951
>>if you have to go somewhere to fight (rather than staying at home), you are not defending anything
By that logic, you are conceding that the Crusades and ALL WARS OF THE U.S. were OFFENSIVE
>Quoting from Surah 9 which has already been debunked
>Repeating 8:39 which has already been debunked.
>So do not weaken and call for peace while you are superior; and Allah is with you and will never deprive you of [the reward of] your deeds.
Good military strategy for war when you are already engaged in battle, if you ask me.
>And let not those who disbelieve think they will escape. Indeed, they will not cause failure [to Allah ].
Nice try, but the whole verse clearly states that those hostile tribes who evade the Muslim army will be punished by Allah.
>i read the whole quran. i don't see anything that changes these lines
You will never see unless you open your eyes. You CHOOSE not to see it.
>so we agree?
Nope. Once again. You are choosing not to read it for fear you might see the truth.
>>710385776
islam is:
1-kill infidels(who are pretty much all non muslims)
2-kill apostates from islam
3-make the jews and christians pay jizya while being utterly humiliated and having as much rights as pigs
4-kill athiests/agnostics
5-kill gays
6-kill transsexuals
7-if you are sunni kill shais if you are shia kill sunnis
8-kill polythiests
9-kill people who worship humans.
the likes of you belong in some fucking muslim king's palace bringing him juice and getting cucked knowing your mom and sister are his "right hands possessions" while being unable to get kids because your balls have been chopped off so you cant get married,go live like the pedophet muhammad -piss and shittings be upon him-,wiping your ass with stones since thats what he used.
>>710403950
>treaty
>(which means paying or get killed
TREATY - a formally concluded and ratified agreement between states.
It seems westereners are even stupider than once thought. They have become an anti-intellectual society preferring to get "knowledge" from conspiracy theory "researchers" instead of actual academic sources.
Some even believe that 9/11 was an inside job... lol.
Next you're going to tell me your own dictionary is lying.
>>710404716
Funny how chapter 9 of the quran is supposedly the last revealed chapter of the quran,so its supposed to be FULL of spiritualities,instead its filled with "fight" "kill" this guy is an infidel" "kill this" "kill that".
10/10 pieceful religion
>>710404801
1 and 3 contradict each other.
Nice propaganda pigfidel...
>>710404801
Fuck, my neighbors is a the family of Muslims - the husband, wife and four children. Go burn them until they carried out their sinister plans.
>>710404716
>By that logic, you are conceding that the Crusades and ALL WARS OF THE U.S. were OFFENSIVE
yes, offensive against bad people. so? americans don't have to follow the quran, you know?
>>Quoting from Surah 9 which has already been debunked
>>Repeating 8:39 which has already been debunked.
haha, and i was answering to your alleged "debunk". haha, you're a fucking idiot. and you call yourself logical?
>Good military strategy for war when you are already engaged in battle, if you ask me.
if you defend yourself, you stop, when the attacker stops, or else its an offensive war
>>And let not those who disbelieve think they will escape
if someone wants to escape and you won't let them, then you are attacking, not defending. do i really have to teach you the meaning of words stupid muslims?
>You will never see unless you open your eyes. You CHOOSE not to see it.
wrong. i see, what quran prescribes muslims, you want to make it look better. and if you are so peaceful and not offensive, why did write things like:
>Give me one good reason why we Muslims shouldn't just chop your heads off?
right at the top. it's your fucking initial statment! you contradict yourself literally all the time, but still claim to be "logical". the contradiction is the fucking basis of logic:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_noncontradiction
educate yourselves please and you will understand your own book. but, i know. for muslims it's not about being peaceful, but about deceiving. it's a stratagem. but we are not stupid. if you really want to trick us, you have to educate yourselves, muslims, or else it's just pathetic. clarify lies of someone stupid like you is actually real fun
>>710405475
pay or get killed. that doesn't make it any better
>>710405411
It's called not being a liberal-sissy-cuckold society... not that you would know anything about that.
Aren't you missing a BLM rally somewhere?
Islam has a right to defend itself. It is inherent in our beliefs and THAT is why the West hates us. They would prefer if the whole world were passive slaves like the Africans. Islam will not stand for it.
>>710405085
>>treaty
>>(which means paying or get killed
>TREATY - a formally concluded and ratified agreement between states.
so, what are you trying to say? lol
>>710405475
Remember the quran said that the torah and the gospel are the words of allah,and it and muhammed confirmed the preservation and authority of both,so the jews and christians are pretty much muslims,except they have to do #3.
Nice try but you failed...son of mut'ah
>>710385776
Islam is worst viruses that has ever infected humanity. We need vaccine against this bullshit.
>>710385776
Because President Trump is going to Nuke your entire civilization back to the stone age!
Considering the way you guys live, it would be the same as you guys live now, except with radiation.
Oh i also forgot to mention son of mut'ah,since the quran affirms the torah,the torah predicts that all goyim will be servimg the jews,so son of mut,ah prepare yourself to become a slave to the people you hate so much and have killed your shitty prophet hahaha
>>710385776
Because Islam is a Religion of Peace!
>>710406311
But why would he do that?
>>710405775
>yes, offensive against bad people
Ah, So suddenly fighting offensive wars is okay, as long as the people you're fighting against are bad people according to you?...
In that case, we too are fighting "offensive" wars against bad people. Happy?
>haha, and i was answering to your alleged "debunk". haha, you're a fucking idiot. and you call yourself logical?
Um, ignoring my answer is not a rebuttal. Why do you DELIBERATELY omit the lines prior to your cropped and manipulated propaganda? You are trying to hide something, lying little swine. You know full well what you are doing.
>if someone wants to escape and you won't let them, then you are attacking, not defending. do i really have to teach you the meaning of words stupid muslims?
Yeah, guess what, we're attacking bad people. That makes it okay, right? You said so yourself.
We will chop the heads off bad people. Just like you bombed and invaded "bad people". Why are we not allowed to do the same things you are? You people in the West are like Autistic toddlers. You always want everyone to play but cry if they don't bend the rules in your favour.
>>710394808
christ, is this thread still going?
I have seen a lot of these threads and its literally just agnostic, atheist and "christian" /b/tards arguing amongst each other whilst any actual rational muslim person shrugs their shoulders and go back to /gif/
there might be some folks from Isis stirring up anti-muslim sentiment but those cunts barely count considering they hate everything modern islam stands for.
Anywho, the thread is dildos and serves no other purpose than for unimportant little people to spout their mighty opinions at other unimportant little people
it will 404 soon and the whole thread will bet yet another futile exercise in ineffectual hate mongering
I hope everyone in here gets cancer and dies soon
we need to raise the median iq on this planet and the sooner you all go fucking kill yourselves the better
you boring bunch of cunts
>>710406503
But it is obvious that all goyim are slaves of the Jews now.
>>710406000
>An agreement is not an ultimatum
Boy, shitty education standards in the West.
>>710406767
You say that like it's something bad.
>>710406755
Dude in islam you pretty much have to kill all non muslims,except jews and christians who according to islam are also muslims but have to pay the jizya or they are killed aswell,oh obviously nearly 99% of todays muslims are to be killed in sharia
>>710385776
We don't need to give you anything.
ISIS is dying. Assad is next. There have already been military coups in Turkey in order to reestablish a secular government.
Islam is dying.
So you can just lick my libcuck balls sand nigger.
>>710406539
AHAHAHAHAHAH
>>710385776
Because you would bleed out after I stabbed you multiple times with my kirpan
>>710406767
If 15-25% of all todays muslims looking to you as someone allowed to be killed with a divine command arent a problem to you...just wow
>>710385776
they most definitely should
>>710407667
fuckin off by one
>>710407221
So maybe to kill everyone, Allah then sort them out?
>>710407618
why would muslims want to kill me?
I am not an apostate
>>710406755
>Ah, So suddenly fighting offensive wars is okay,
who said that? we we're discussing quran, did you forget? is that your great attention span you go on babbling about? or do you reinterpret the discussion to be right, deceiving little piggy?
>Um, ignoring my answer is not a rebuttal.
haha, you're pathetic. YOU we're ignoring my answer. read this again, sloooowly and try to understand, you can do it:
>>710403950
it says:
>to whom you had made a treaty
and then:
>you should Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture - [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled.
to whom you made a treaty you should make a treaty or kill or they should pay? this merely proves my statement
AND
>9:5
it is said, that nonbelievers have to accept islam or pay or get killed. whats defensive about that? its offensive and a prescription to subjugate, thats not defending
plus. you are the one that selecitvelely choose my arguments you answer to and ignore all the others. it's becoming ridiculous muslim. you don't even try to see the truth. you want to defend your stupid people and culture, face it. you guys are bad, hateful people and want everyone als to become the assholes you are.
>Yeah, guess what, we're attacking bad people. That makes it okay, right? You said so yourself.
>We will chop the heads off bad people.
so, you admit, that quran prescribes offensive war. finally we agree.
>We will chop the heads off bad people.
except that you have a morally bad ideology as you can see in these verses of the quran:
Quran says, it’s ok and even normal to have slaves:
4:3
4:24
5:89
23:6
33:50
58:3
70:30
Sexism in the quran:
2:282
4:34
For Muslims, it's forbidden to be friends with unbelievers:
3:28
3:118
4:89
4:144
5:51
5:57
60:1
obviously you are the ones, that are bad.
>>710407221
>Dude in islam you pretty much have to kill all non muslims
Lolno...
>except jews and christians who according to islam are also muslims
people of the book, not Muslims
> but have to pay the jizya or they are killed aswell
Lolno, you pay Jizyah if you choose to live under protection of Caliphate just as Muslims pay Zakath. You are exempt from military service and receive equal status in almost all aspects of life, except religious ones.
You are welcome to live elsewhere.
>oh obviously nearly 99% of todays muslims are to be killed in sharia
Sharia didn't exist during Muhammad's time.
I though beliving in islam was a big joke in first world countries, just pretending to be third world imbeciles. But appearently its not
> sandniggers on pc
> mfw
oh i wish it was all satire
>>710407867
Because you're a fag.
>>710406794
Happier serving jews than get killed.by mudslime fucks
>>710406874
who was talking about an ultimatum? are you sure, this word means, what you think it means? or are you just trying to distract? god, i hate your obvious lying muslims. if you do it so much, why does it still sound like children trying to get away with something?
>>710406767
sounds like you're butthurt now, muslim
>>710408039
There are lots of chrisitans who would want to kill me as well if I was a fag. I don't really see your argument there
In reality however I live with muslims, I work with muslims, I do business with muslims. Somehow I have lived 35 years on this planet without a single one of them beheading me and I suspect that I will live another 35 without being beheaded by one
>>710407875
>who said that?
you did. You claimed that the crusades and Iraq invasion were "okay" because they were offensives against "bad people"
>Surah 9
If you could read and understand... you would see that EVERYTHING in CHAPTER 9 is regarding a specific people at a specific time. These polytheists (who did not believe in Allah nor the last day) had broken their treaty with the Muslims and had become hostile.
>hurr durr treaty means pay or get killed
It seems you don't understand words in your own language.
>>710407882
>Lolno...
lolyes
>under protection of Caliphate
thats called racketeering. god is not a fucking redneck, idiot muslims
plus, why do you want to chop our heads off? this thread literally has a death-threat as an initial statment. do i have to say more?
>>710408266
is that the best you can come up with, you boring little man?
I'll send you a pic of my big fat white dick so you have something to jack off to if you want
>>710385776
You shouldn't need a reason?
>>710408365
>There are lots of chrisitans who would want to kill me as well if I was a fag.
wrong. it was christian countries that invented gay rights you know. no gay guy is threatend to be killed by christians
>>710385776
Give me one reason why they should.
>>710408082
Austrian artist looks at you as shit.
>>710407882
>kek when the sandnigger is contradicting the imam i heard talking in the jum`ah speech
>>710408506
>lolyes
you made the claim, you prove it.
>thats called racketeering. god is not a fucking redneck, idiot muslims
How so? Would you like foreigners to come from Kenya, not pay taxes and then expect welfare checks? So why should we have non-Muslims who want to live in a Caliphate and not pay the equivalent of Zakath and then expect free military protection from the Muslim army?
>plus, why do you want to chop our heads off? >this thread literally has a death-threat as an initial statment. do i have to say more?
Threatening to kill a hostile people is morally acceptable. You and your barabric culture need to be purged. It is the only way for peace to be realized on this planet.
Sand niggers need to burn. Their kids and wives must also be eradicated.
They are the true scum of this planet right next to "people" who claim to be other genders than what they actually are. An example being "gender fluid" and "cisgender". Truly mentally ill. Kill them.
>>710408365
The most dangerous predator is the one that convinced you in its friendliness. You will live only until the Night of the Long Knives.
>>710408582
>implying islam is a race
>>710408644
>When America goes to war
"Hurr durr we didn't dun its in da name of Christ
>When America allows gay marriage
"Hurr durr we CHRISTIAN COUNTRIES are so wonderfull..."
>>710409259
>western culture is dangerous and westerners need to be killed
>islam is the religion of peace
This is why i hate islam
>>710408485
>you did. You claimed that the crusades and Iraq invasion were "okay" because they were offensives against "bad people"
no, i didn't say it was ok. i said it was war against bad people, not that i think it was ok. but a western offensive war against bad people is still better than offensive war of muslims, who even have it in their religious book, which is supposed to bring morally good standards. quran doesn't
>These polytheists (who did not believe in Allah nor the last day) had broken their treaty with the Muslims and had become hostile.
so, what treaty was that? pay or get killed? and show me the fucking verse, where it says, that these people attacked muslims.
>you would see that EVERYTHING in CHAPTER 9 is regarding a specific people at a specific time.
that doesn't make it any. god, you're a fucking stupid subhuman. read this fucking post already:
>>710403950
it says:
>to whom you had made a treaty
and then:
>you should Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture - [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled.
to whom you made a treaty you should make a treaty or kill or they should pay? this merely proves my statement
AND
>9:5
it is said, that nonbelievers have to accept islam or pay or get killed. whats defensive about that? its offensive and a prescription to subjugate, thats not defending
>It seems you don't understand words in your own language.
so what does this treaty say? as far as i remember, the only treaties muslims have with non-believers are that they pay, so that muslims don't kill them. or is there another passage that explains this treaty? no. the quran is very clear about what to do with non-believers, as i showed you on various passages you all ignored. fuck off with your violence assholes.
>>710409776
>confusng peace with pacifism.
Westerners want the whole world to be submissive to them or else they play the victim card... not Islam. We don't fall for your shit.
>>710408582
>is that the best you can come up with, you boring little man?
so you had any better arguments?
>>710409483
>"Hurr durr we didn't dun its in da name of Christ
you want to believe, that we did it in the name of christ, so you can say, christians attacked you. there is no chance you can find any word of jesus christ that tells christians to be violent. the opposite is the case.
>>710385776
Without non muslims, who will then pay your welfare?
>>710409259
>Dude in islam you pretty much have to kill all non muslims
>you made the claim, you prove it.
not the anon, but read these passages of the quran:
>>710390744
>Would you like foreigners to come from Kenya, not pay taxes and then expect welfare checks?
god, you muslims are fucking stupid. it's an ADDITIONAL "tax". it's "protection money", so that muslims won't kill you. that IS called racketeering
>Threatening to kill a hostile people is morally acceptable
so lets see, what OP wrote:
>Give me one good reason why we Muslims shouldn't just chop your heads off?
he didn't even say, what of people he wants to chop the heads of.
and who is fucking hostile. i have never done anything to any muslim ever.
>You and your barabric culture need to be purged.
oh see, another threat, just one sentence later. do you muslims even know when one statement contradicts another? or is this your great attention span? to forget the line you just wrote?
>>710410101
>Westerners want the whole world to be submissive to them or else they play the victim card... not Islam.
your book says otherwise
i am a westerner and i don't want to subjugate anyone and my government doesn't want to do that either. you're just making things up, delusional muslim
>>710410101
>play the victim card
LOOOL, thats exactly the thing muslims do all the time. when has the west ever presented himself as victims?
>>710385776
because their translation of a made up story is retarded...
>>710407875
this man right here
>>710410049
>no, i didn't say it was ok. i said it was war against bad people, not that i think it was ok. but a western offensive war against bad people is still better than offensive war of muslims, who even have it in their religious book, which is supposed to bring morally good standards. quran doesn't
The Quran offers a specific rules, criteria of hostility and guidlines for Jihad, not just nuking people willy-nilly because we want oil or influence over their economy. Islamic war>western war
>so, what treaty was that? pay or get killed? and show me the fucking verse, where it says, that these people attacked muslims.
>9:8 How [can there be a treaty] while, if they gain dominance over you, they do not observe concerning you any pact of kinship or covenant of protection? They satisfy you with their mouths, but their hearts refuse [compliance], and most of them are defiantly disobedient.
<that doesn't make it any. god, you're a fucking stupid subhuman. read this fucking post already:
So npw your argument has changed from
>hurr durr da book tells you to kill all infidels...
to
>There was some stories of ancient wars in the book
>it is said, that nonbelievers have to accept islam or pay or get killed. whats defensive about that? its offensive and a prescription to subjugate, thats not defending
When you break your treaty of peace, you become hostile by definition. For those specific people, at that time, it was ordered that they be attacked for this breach. OR, to spare their lives, they could accept Islam.
It applied only to them because the Muslims had tried letting them be as (i.e. peace treaty).
Thus the only two options left by default was convert or die. Propaganda twisters like you love ignoring the rest of the facts to make it appear as if that last line is the whole story.
>>710410310
well if you didn't fight in the name of christ, then you didn't accept gay rights in the name of christ...
THAT was the point you idiot.
Insert green text here
>>710410832
>ADDITIONAL "tax". it's "protection money", so that muslims won't kill you. that IS called racketeering
This is far from what the history books have recorded. Muslims pay Zakat. Non-Muslims pay Jizyah.
They seperate it because Zakat pays for things like charity to Muslims and building of Mosques. Jizyah will not go toward these things and will merely go toward military. trade as wel as your exemption from military service.
>>710411350
>when has the west ever presented himself as victims?
this entire thread
>Also
"Boo hoo we lied about WMDs to kill Muslims in the ME and now they are fighting back... why us?!!... Woe is us?!! Whatever shal we do?.... This is sooo unfair waaah"
>>710399178
the muzzie is using taquiyya on you he failed
>>710385776
statistically inferior in dick size and intelligence. and thats all that matters.
>>710411934
>The Quran offers a specific rules, criteria of hostility and guidlines for Jihad
for a war, that is morally wrong. killing people, because they don't want to be muslims who kill gay people or beat their wives, if they don't obey IS bad. so this war is not good. war against saddam hussein was or against taliban. war for islam is a bad thing, as you can read in the verses i posted here:
>>710407875
>>9:8 How [can there be a treaty] while, if they gain dominance over you, they do not observe concerning you any pact of kinship or covenant of protection? They satisfy you with their mouths, but their hearts refuse [compliance], and most of them are defiantly disobedient.
so wheres the attack of the nonbelievers? not one word about it.
>>hurr durr da book tells you to kill all infidels...
>to
>There was some stories of ancient wars in the book
haha, where do you read that? i did not change any argument. you said, these are rules for special time and people. that doesn't it any better. nice try to distort my words
>When you break your treaty of peace
what fucking treaty? if you try to get rid of your oppressors, its defense you stupid muslim pile of shit
>OR, to spare their lives, they could accept Islam.
OH, HOW NICE! no, thats not violent!
>It applied only to them because the Muslims had tried letting them be as
if they live as subjugated people and paying the money to not get killed
>make it appear as if that last line is the whole story.
nice try liar, read what i wrote above
>>710385776
People here fall for bait so easily. This is retarded. You're all retarded.
>>710412070
>well if you didn't fight in the name of christ, then you didn't accept gay rights in the name of christ...
what are you fucking talking about
the point was, that christians don't persecute gays, whereas in muslims countries they do. PLUS it's in their book, that they have to do this.
>>710412715
>>when has the west ever presented himself as victims?
not really. i never said, i was attacked. i said, the quran prescribes offensive war. another attempt to distort, what i said, to be right.
>"Boo hoo we lied about WMDs to kill Muslims in the ME
who lied? they always said, hussein MIGHT have wmds. the reason for the war was very clear: saddam hussein is a bad dictator and we have to get rid of him
>>710385776
Because every country lead with mostly islamic population has a weak economic structure of civil war going on
>>710412937
>killing people, because they don't want to be muslims
>Repeating a debunked claim
>so wheres the attack of the nonbelievers? not one word about it.
You just proved my point about not having bothered to read even a few lines of chapter 9.
You see, you don't possess the intelligence to maintain a consistent thought. READ THE WHOLE CHAPTER.
>9:13 Would you not fight a people who broke their oaths and determined to expel the Messenger, and they had begun [the attack upon] you the first time? Do you fear them? But Allah has more right that you should fear Him, if you are [truly] believers.
>what fucking treaty? if you try to get rid of your oppressors, its defense you stupid muslim pile of shit
What are you even talking about? Get rid of oppressors?!!! Lol, you really have no clue what you're talking about, do you?
>OH, HOW NICE! no, thats not violent!
At least we gave them a choice when they tried to attack us, instead of being barbarians and carpet bombing the whole place like westerners, women and children and all the westerner lives for blood.
>if they live as subjugated people and paying the money to not get killed
They never lived as subjugated people. Stop making things up. You are deluded.
>>710410101
>>710410101
then get the fuck out of the west you bag of shit or be eventually removed westerners are getting tired of putting up with your bullshit
>>710413174
>the point was, that christians don't persecute gays
>AMERICA doesn't persecute gays
>ftfy
>>710412465
they could tax how much they wanted and it's meant to be a humiliation. the point is, that it subjugates non-muslims under muslim power. is there a seperate muslim tax in christian countries to humiliate them?
>>710413790
>saddam hussein is a bad dictator and we have to get rid of him
Well we Muslims think Obama is a bad dictator. We're bombing the place up because we want to get rid of him?
>>710413929
why do muslims in the M.E. still keep slaves
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQXRKuoZLFI and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NafGxS4zEnE alsohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVuQTiQNJOE
>>710414034
they fucking invented gay rights. and they don't get killed like in islamic countries you piece of muslim shit
Does anyone get a headache whenever you see posts that are just as stupid as this.
Like its almost if they want me to care
>>710412070
We;; actually the New Testament teaches the forgiveness of sins, and that it is not the followers of Jesus to punish sinners. Where such false doctrines come from is the Catholic Church, which is actually not Christian at all, but the Roman Empires religions roll up in the name of Christ. So your example is not of Christianity, or true Christianity.
>>710386621
I would also add something that seems really cool to me from Orthodox Christianism (don't know if this is true for the others). The church actually states that even if someone is not a Cristian he can still "go to heaven" if he just acts like a good Cristian, which means loving other people and offering any help you can. (please don't take heaven literally, it's something like a connection with God, similarly to what Budists believe in my opinion)
>>710385776
Because you will get nuked
>>710414206
>they could tax how much they wanted and it's meant to be a humiliation.
Nothing comes for free. You're probably on welfare and want free shit all the time.
If you want to live under a Caliphate, pay for the services of leave.
>the point is, that it subjugates non-muslims under muslim power.
You are a subject under a Caliphate by definition. No surprises.
>is there a seperate muslim tax in christian countries to humiliate them?
There are no Chrisitian countries.
>>710390077
...Noice, now you persuaded him
>>710414542
Christians accepted it, after many decades (centuries even) of pressure from democratic society.
>>710413929
>>killing people, because they don't want to be muslims
>>Repeating a debunked claim
really? are you really telling me, this claim is wrong? after you read the quran? than you really must be the most stupid guy even for muslims standards
>You just proved my point about not having bothered to read even a few lines of chapter 9.
so if you try to get rid of your oppressors the quran calls it attack? just means mohammed is an unjust asshole
>What are you even talking about? Get rid of oppressors?!!! Lol, you really have no clue what you're talking about, do you?
the treaty was about living under oppression of muslims you deceiving fuck
>At least we gave them a choice when they tried to attack us
let them live under your suppression and forcing them them become muslims or pay or get killed is not grace, but being a violent, facist asshole
>They never lived as subjugated people. Stop making things up. You are deluded.
read the fucking quran then.
9:5
9:29
that is called subjugation asshole
>>710414309
>Well we Muslims think Obama is a bad dictator.
except that you're wrong about this. learn the fucking meaning of words. an elected president is not a dictator
>>710415059
human rights themselves come from christian values. thatswhy muslims don't have them or accept them.
>>710385776
because you apes don't realize that you owe the whites all you got right now....
you are independent and that makes you rage
everytime you look out of the window you realize that your country is a piece of shit and the western infidels are feeding you...
i tell you what you piece of shit...stop using internet and go fuck your mom...
ex muslim here
prove me that muslims don't ditch and betray the country they live on after fleeing their shithole called homeland
pro tip you can't bc they're all pigs
>>710415841
>independent
i ment to say
you're depending on the whites
>>710413929
chapter 9 is not a historical story. these verses were still applied after mohammed. so these verses DO say, nonbelievers in muslim countries have to pay or become muslims or get killed. and if you read them in context of the rest of the quran, you clearly see, what mohammed wants muslims to do.
>>710388188
You just know some /pol/ user made this lul.
>>710388412
>death cult
don't christians worship a crucified corpse?
>>710416482
no. they worship a resurrected god, to be exact
>>710391206
top kek troll, the fact you mentioned taqiya as a legitimate muslim practice/principle exposes your ignorance and the fact that you're just baiting. 0/10 made me reply
>>710388188
No Europe defeated Europe. That they are so politically correct that they keep allowing in these rapeugees, so as to not appear mean is the height of stupidity. They deserve to die off.
>>710415439
>really? are you really telling me, this claim is wrong?
You have yet to prove it.
So far, it only exists in your mind and in your fabricated propaganda.
>so if you try to get rid of your oppressors
Explain?
Who was oppressing who? Lol, you know Jack shit. You're just making assumptions left, right and centre.
>the treaty was about living under oppression of muslims you deceiving fuck
>LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Holy shit! Westerners are really this stupid! The autism is strong wiht this one. He literally believes things he makes up in his mind.
>let them live under your suppression and forcing them them become muslims or pay or get killed is not grace
It is when they try to attack you.
>read the fucking quran then.
9:5
9:29
LOLOLOLOLOL
I cannot believe I have to teach a westerner how to read a book. You see, you start from the first line, and then go to line number 2, then 3, then 4... do you get it, boy?
I know it;s complicated but you'll learn.
They HAD a treaty between SEPERATE TRIBES.
These polytheists BROKE the TREATY by ATTACKING the Muslims.
Surah 9 Instructs how they SOULD BE DEALT WITH.
>let them pass through the sacred months
>kill them and besiege them
>else offer them protection if they mean you no harm
>Fight them until they repent OR pay Jizyah (under your protection)
>>710415636
>human rights themselves come from christian values
Then where does the Western war machine come from?
You're just picking and choosing the values you want to be associated with Christianity.
>>710416112
>nonbelievers in muslim countries have to pay or become muslims or get killed
My cousin is a Hindu living in Riyadh. He is not dead and does not pay Jizyah. He is earning boatloads of cash and is treated well.
>>710417039
>These polytheists BROKE the TREATY by ATTACKING the Muslims.
what treaty? what was the content of this treaty?
read this:
>>710416112
and this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jizya
>You have yet to prove it.
read the WHOLE quran. its very clear, that non-believers have to die, except they become muslims. why do i even post these passages, if you just ignore them, so you can go on make quran look better than it is?
4:89
47:35
61:4
2:216
2:286
4:74
4:76
4:95
8:39
8:59
8:60
48:29
66:9
do nonbelievers have to be killed or not now?!
>>710385776
All TraiTors Must DiEE. Kom.&.DeD
>>710417393
>You're just picking and choosing the values you want to be associated with Christianity.
well, read the gospels then. it sure does not come from christianity
>>710417617
>My cousin is a Hindu living in Riyadh. He is not dead and does not pay Jizyah. He is earning boatloads of cash and is treated well.
so? doesn't mean it's not in the quran. i didn't say, all muslims everywhere apply it
>>710417774
>what treaty? what was the content of this treaty?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Hudaybiyyah
>read the WHOLE quran. its very clear, that non-believers have to die
All have already been debunked. You cleverly refuse to post the whole verses because you are afraid you will be caught lying through ommission.
Also, so many repeats. Are you retarded or just dim-witted. Everytime I call you out on a verse, you ignore it, focus on something else for a while, and repost the same verse number, as if nothing happened. You're a deluded autist.
>>710417860
>well, read the gospels then. it sure does not come from christianity
Neither does accepting gays. Yet you insist that it came from Christian values.
>>710418753
why do you continue to ignore my post?>>710414368
>>710418015
You did. Saudi is a Muslim country which follows STRICT Muslim laws. They still behead people for murder there.
>>710419003
Anyone can make a documentary claiming things... look how popular those 9/11 conspiracy theory ones are.
Do you really believe it wasn't Islamic Jihad and that Islam had nothing to do with it?
>>710418753
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Hudaybiyyah
i don't see the connection to the words in chapter 9 of the quran.
>All have already been debunked.
you have not "debunked" one.
>You cleverly refuse to post the whole verses
i already did here:
>>710395365
>Everytime I call you out on a verse, you ignore it, focus on something else for a while,
funny, because that is what you did. turning something around is not being right. and again, with this, you're just trying to distract from the verses i posted over and over. you were babbling about those two from the 9th chapter ignoring all the others. i never ignored any of your answers. you can re-read it if you like
and why don't you just read them for yourself?
>repost the same verse number
show me where you fucking answered to these:
4:89
47:35
61:4
2:216
2:286
4:74
4:76
4:95
8:39
8:59
8:60
48:29
66:9
you can't, because you didn't
>>710419151
lying idiot, i said, it was applied after mohammeds death, not that it every muslim country at any time applied it
>>710419407
so outright lying then? and you said muslims do not practice taquiya
>>710419419
>8:39
See >>710398000
There's more of those answers scattered about the thread but you're a sneaky little piggy. I refuse to answer more verses until you acknowledge the ones I already did.
>>710419518
Lying about what?
>>710419907
>>8:39
and i myself answered to it. and if you ignore all the other verses you sure cannot talk about reading these in context.
>>710420014
you fuckers still keep slaves over there and you have the fucking nerve to call the west out on anything fuck you
>>710419907
>8:39
>if you fight, until there is no fitnah, than you don't stop, when the alleged attacker stops, but you go on until everybody accepted islam.
>>710420087
>and i myself answered to it. and if you ignore all the other verses you sure cannot talk about reading these in context.
So what was wrong with my answer. I showed clearly how you distorted the verse by lying through ommission of the previous line.
You cannot get away from the fact that you hide behind distortion and fabrication to spew your propaganda.
>>710420291
Well you fuckers blew up your own twin tower... I know it's true necause I saw it on YouTube.
>>710420351
>if you fight, until there is no fitnah, than you don't stop
Have you read the previous line?
This only applie if they do not cease fighting you and return to hostility. How are you not getting this by now?
>>710420475
except al quaeda claimed responsibility for it shitty try sand nigger
>>710420360
>8:39
see here
>>710420351
and again. if you read those in context of the other passages, it's clear, what mohammed wants muslims to do:
9:29
>Fight those who do not believe in Allah
9:73
O Prophet, fight against the disbelievers and the hypocrites and be harsh upon them.
9:123
O you who have believed, fight those adjacent to you of the disbelievers and let them find in you harshness.
8:39
And fight them until there is no fitnah and [until] the religion
and if you fight, until there is no fitnah, than you don't stop, when the alleged attacker stops, but you go on until everybody accepted islam
47:35
So do not weaken and call for peace while you are superior; and Allah is with you and will never deprive you of [the reward of] your deeds.
8:59
And let not those who disbelieve think they will escape.
48:29
>>710420838
48:29
Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah ; and those with him are forceful against the disbelievers
you can't sugarcoat these. and its you who spews propaganda for his stupid hateful xenophobic sexist religion
>>710420726
do i really have to explain to you, what fitnah is?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fitna_(word)
so this means, you don't stop, when they cease. until there is no fitnah means exactly that. and again. read the verses in context of the rest of the quran and you HAVE to see, that muslims shall attack
>>710420761
You mean the same way Nayirah told us about the incubator babies?
>>710421217
so changing the subject eh? not going to work with me sand man
>>710421214
Holy shit you are dumb. Please copy and paste the previous line for me. I want to see if you are not functionally retarded.
>It literally says that if they stop, they will be forgiven but you should fight them till there is no more disbelief IF THEY RETURN TO HOSTILITY ONLY!!!
