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>>769215369
the only logical thing to do is provide every white american with a free gun when they turn 18. problem solved! and ofcourse a one time investment now to arm everyone 18 and over.
>>769215369
>source: made up statistic pulled from ma ass
>>769215369
You can see from milion miles away that there could be other factors for that, e.g. that cops are more likely to be involved when there is a bigger threat anyway.
>>769215369
>>769215567
>>769215808
>>769215567
That wasn't a mass shooting though
I DON'T LIKE MONDAYS!
>>769216066
>impotent rage
>>769216170
>>769215369
>>769215924
>>769215988
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>>769216066
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>>769215808
>>769216252
Shitty strawman, stormfaggots aren’t even trying at this point.
>>769216503
>>769216581
God idea getting into a firefight with 3 small children next to you. What mom wouldn't do that?
>>769216463
>>769216643
>watches Fox News
>voted Trump
>calls others sheep
>>769216753
One that won't abandon her children and run away?
>>769216809
Yeah, you're cool, Snowflake.
>>769216809
>>769215924
Why do you people always make the shittiest memes
>>769216252
>three people snorting a condom means an entire generation did it
>A couple hundred gen z's eating tide pods means millenials do it
>throw in a pink hat for added meme
>>769217228
I already affirmed your need for attention, Snowflake.
But I'll send you a participation trophy is that makes you feel better.
>bows to his muslim king
>>769217385
You're a real fucked up little faggot, Snowflake.
>>769217398
>>769217228
Terrible bait.
>Nose line doesn't match.
>Lips don't match.
>Chin doesn't match.
You have failed at your intended task.
Try again?
>>769217339
>>769215369
>>769215924
>>769215988
>>769216017
>>769216066
>>769216146
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>>769216295
>>769216381
>>769216581
>>769216463
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>>769217398
>>769217512
>>769217565
>>769217623
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>>769217714
>>769217755
You can't compare america with the rest of the world when it comes to weapons.
We're talking if it's a good idea to get retarded people to carry weapons
We're talking about a people litterally too retarded to eat Kinder Surprise, do you really think you'd feel safe around such people carrying guns ?
An anti-gun zealot prior to massive brain damage.
>>769217823
Being a cuck is a symptom of Liberalism. And really, no actual Conservative woman would be into bestiality.
>>769218038
>Being a cuck is a symptom of Liberalism
So Trump voters are liberals now?
>>769217293
Kids were dying from eating "Detergent tablets" as far back as the 1960s.
Don't even mention lead paint, cigarette butts, or any of the other "epidemics" that the boomers and previous generations went through.
Short version of the story is this:
>KIDS ARE STUPID
>>769215369
FAKE NEWS
>>769218133
>drawn by a six year old
That was the bast a 32 year old alt-right neckbeard could do with MS-Paint after hours of trying. But what's even worse is that the other right wingers are retarded enough to believe it's real.
>>769215369
The myth of the "good guy with a gun". Fucking kek.
>>769218505
Just looked up two maps
>states with open carry
>gun violence by state
They are the same fucking map. The stricter a state is on gun control, the less gun violence they have.
Even Chicago doesn't come close to southern states
Why are americans so paranoid about burglars, it isn't even that common a crime your being scared by company's into buying somthing you'll never use
>>769218505
i think this might be crazy enough to get everyone killed.
>>769216252
I like how he's forced to write "millennials" on the shirt because he is incapable of drawing anyone that looks younger than 60
>>769219009
like door locks?
>>769217623
This argument is retarded. Short of designing a vehicle from the ground up, the only vehicles that can stand up to bullets and carry a squad of cops are ones that are given to PD's as military surplus.
Making a friendly-looking armored vehicle for cops would cost millions of dollars and be a burden to every town in America.
>>769217755
>>owmythumb.jpg
>>769217623
i so want that truck
>>769215457
why wait for 18?
every amerecian should be armed a birth.
>>769216146
Omg I forgot I love that song
>>769218010
Can I have the source on that?
>>769218671
Source? Show maps please.
>>769215457
Why not simply euthanize all male citizens at the age of 16? Almost all shooters are male. Deep freeze a semen sample beforehand and reproduction of the species is not an issue either.
>>769216060
That’s all they got though.
Like why don’t people shhot up Police stations?
There’s enough hate for the police out there, but why dont police stations get shot up?
Oh right all the open carrying going on inside them
>>769216170
stormfags>leftists.
>>769223906
Correction stormfags = (old) leftists
>>769215369
>tfw walk into store and see a robbery in progress
>draw my gun and shoot the bastard
>some guy walks into the store after me and sees a me pointing a gun at someone
>he draws his gun and shoots me
yeah man, let's all just carry guns.
>>769215369
>who the hell sell with $0.00!!?
>>769218038
right, he must speak from his experience. or, more likely, his father's.
>>769224021
>confirmed for liberal retard who hasnt been within 5 miles of a firearm
>>769215369
lol at this Russian bot for trying to convince us mroe than two deaths per mass shooting is somehow good. Go back to the Kremlin, comrade.
>>769224363
>>769216295
Because London is fill with people from 3rd world countries.
>>769215567
Boot Diddy Dye?
>>769217926
Americans have an obligation to protect themselves from criminals with weapons proportional to the threat.
They have no mommies who will do it for them.
>>769223335
Only white Americans.
>>769226849
what country
Don't you think there should be both political and legislative change tho to gun laws? Like maybe enforcing exisiting gun laws because its easy as fuck to traffic guns between states. Plus gun ownership have two different meanings in rural Texas and metro Washington, so a federal mandate/law isnt the best for everyone.
Plus.. do people still think calling some liberal a snowflake/sheep/libtard is like some witty comeback these days? cuz its dry as fuck yo
>>769215369
Dont give anyone Arms so no rampage starts? average death 0
>>769215369
tinyurl as a source?
even the retards are calling you stupid.
>>769230315
Exactly. You ever see a double amputee kill anyone?
>>769225972
Yeah, and america is filled with niggers and wetbacks
>>769218671
That's wrong, and 99% of mass shootings happen in "gun free" zones.
lmao, cuck.
>>769216753
Disgusting
>>769216875
Nice comeback
>>769230315
Don't give anyone drugs so nobody overdoses
Average overdose=0
>>769215369
Is it really a "rampage" if only two people die?
>>769215567
The fuck kind of shit example is that hahahahaha
>being this dumb.
>>769215369
FAKE FAKE FAKE FAKE FAKE FAKE FAKE.
YOU FORGOT TO ADD IN THE 3RD CATEGORY.
AVERAGE DEATH WHEN GUN CONTROL EXISTS:
0.23.
NICE TRY FAGGOT. KYS WITH YOUR GUN, SINCE YOU'RE MORE LIKELY TO DO THAT THAN TO CATCH SOMEONE BREAKING INTO YOUR HOUSE.
>>769217823
Cringe.
>>769216060
>Not a mass shooting though
No it was just THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
>>769215369
>MORE GUNS MEANS MORE PROTECTION - TRUMP
>NRA ANNOUNCES NO GUNS ALLOWED AT NRA CONVENTION WHEN PENCE IS PRESENT
You are so fucking cucked it's not funny. Gun nuts are literally more brainwashed than any other group in human history.
>>769233111
How would you stop a crazed serial stabber if one came at you?
>>769233195
>>769215567
Guns don't magically prevent a shooting. That's like assuming police magically prevent a shooting.
Nothing can prevent a shooting.
Guns end a shooting once it has started.
Police end a shooting once it has started BECAUSE THEY HAVE GUNS. The difference is there's a limited number of police and they can't be everywhere at once, so it takes on average 18 minutes for the police to show up on the scene.
Now think for a minute how many lives will be lost in those 18 minutes. That's the difference between letting people defend their own lives or stripping away their right to self-defense and forcing them to rely on the state.
>>769233322
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jAfUI_hETy0
>>769233975
>Nothing can prevent a shooting.
Let's do a little math to see how easy it is to prevent a shooting
>0 guns + 0 ammo = 0 shootings
>>769233975
Police have no duty or obligation to end a shooting or protect anyone.
>>769234161
So
0 drugs + 0 paraphernalia = 0 overdoses?
>>769218038
What about candy carson?
What people fail to realize is that no gun can stop a mass shooter before he shoots
Which means that "no guns" can stop mass shooters
>>769234233
Well you gatta talk to the doctors about reducing the ease of access to those medications, which would reduce the overdoses, sort of like how reducing access to firearms reduce shootings.
>>769215567
https://www.sheriffs.org/content/embracing-technology-decrease-law-enforcement-response-time
“While calling 911 in an emergency has been around for ages, it can take too long from the time an emergency is reported to the time officers arrive on the scene. The average school shooting lasts 12.5 minutes, while the average police response time is 18 minutes.”
>>769234109
meh, I do have training unlike this G.I. Joe
>>769234348
How do doctors control crack?
>>769234382
Police have no duty or obligation to protect you.
That is not why they exist.
>>769234382
>The average school shooting lasts 12.5 minutes
>OP pic says average shooter gets 14.3
>Average shooter only gets 1.13 people per minute.
Man you americans suck at even killing eachother
>>769234446
And you believe every American is an ex navy seal MMA fighter?
>>769234472
Oh I thought you were talking about opiates, with crack you gatta tell the government to quit importing coke.
>>769234593
and also don't make a guy convicted of doing it the head of the NRA
>>769218671
Now instead of looking up "gun violence by state", look up "homicide rate by state"
Guns may lead to more gun deaths, but they lead to fewer deaths overall. This is a perfect example of liberals not knowing basic math
>Gun control: 100 stabbings, 10 shootings - 110 total deaths
>No gun control: 10 stabbings, 20 shootings - 30 total deaths
>"Gun control leads to half as many shootings!!!"
This is also aggregating ALL gun violence. Mass shootings specifically have always happened in gun-free zones. And many statistics include suicides in gun violence, which is a bit unfair because those people would have used pills, a knife, or some other means if a gun weren't available.
>>769234543
Every American doesn't have to be. Every American would rather a psycho with a knife stab 2 or 3 people than have a psycho shoot 10-20 people which is what currently happens basically daily in the US.
More STUDENTS have been murdered in the US than US Soldiers in war in 2018.
Being a student is literally more deadly than being a soldier.
>>769218505
https://www.forbes.com/sites/paulhsieh/2018/04/30/that-time-the-cdc-asked-about-defensive-gun-uses/#14930d24299a
Also
https://www.washingtontimes.com/multimedia/collection/good-guy-gun-stopped-bad-guy-gun/
These aren’t as newsworthy as dead kids to CNN and MSNBC, which is why you don’t know about them.
>>769234638
No source at all. Good job.
Here are the REAL Statistics:
>Gun Control: 12 stabbings, 1 shooting - 3 deaths
>No Gun Control: 10 stabbings, 23 shootings - 132 deaths
Nice try.
>>769234161
Alright. So let's get EVERY gun out of America -- including guns owned by police officers and the military. Because even if every single police officer we hire can be trusted and won't shoot someone who doesn't deserve it, their guns might get stolen from them in their sleep. The only way to have no guns in the hands of criminals is to have no guns.
We also need to end ALL immigration, because people might bring guns in.
We also need to build a wall, so people can't illegally carry in guns.
While we're at it, we need to beg every other country to drop their guns - because if we disarm our military it'd be unfair if they decided to attack us.
Then we need to prevent people from building a gun in the garage (pic related)
We also can't allow any gun-like apparatus which can shoot a projectile. So we have to get rid of nail guns, air compressors, etc. This will mean the housing market will see massive inflation as houses can't be built as quickly - but we're trying to get rid of guns, so it's okay
We also don't want anyone to have a canon, which mean no explosives. So we have to get rid of all road and building construction materials. So no new roads or buildings.
But then we'll finally be safe... unless someone breaks the law. But no one would do that, right?
>>769234506
Oh I know - Gonzales vs Castle Rock, Warren gs DC firmly established police don’t have to keep you safe from harm even if they know about it prior to occurrence.
That was for the benefit of people claiming you can call the cops to come protect people - 18 minutes average response time for an active shooter scenario.
>>769234745
Both have to pay the price of freedom
>>769234948
man, If you're going to reddit space, I ain't going read it.
>>769234524
The times listed is for when the shooter is stopped - the 14.3 minutes is wrong, it’s 12.5 minutes of uninterrupted shooting and almost 6 minutes later that law enforcement arrive to the scene. A lot of school shooters tend to commit suicide, at least that is what’s listed on official reports, so police arriving mostly are just securing the scene and starting their investigations. Sometimes they apprehend a live shooter but that is fairly rare now a days.
>>769234824
>10 + 23 = 132
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/homicide_mortality/homicide.htm
There are 2,074 deaths in 2016 in California compared to 1,669 in Texas. That's 24% more in the gun-free state than the gun-toting state. But let's continue:
California, Florida, and Illinois all banned open carry. These states rank 1st, 3rd, and 4th in the list when sorted by total deaths. Illinois ranks 7th when sorted by death per capita.
The lowest rates? Vermont, Wyoming, North Dakota, New Hampshire, Maine, Idaho, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Minnesota, and Utah. Of those states, ALL of them allow for open carry.
Here's some helpful maps
>>769234745
America isn't at war this year fool
>>769235151
what? I said 12.5 minutes, 14.3 people average
14.3(people)/12.5(minutes) = 1.13 people per minute. But I would say its becoming more common that they aren't an heroing.
>>769215567
>>769234745
More people die from pneumonia just by entering a Hospital than die from guns every year.
Entering a Hospital for a checkup is more deadly than being the victim of gun violence..
>>769215369
average deaths in shooting rampages where no one has guns: 0
>>769235440
guns are so complicated, that's why nigger child soldiers can figure them out.
>>769235510
Wow, great choice of words anon.
You've totally changed my mind on guns.
>>769216066
>>769216370
these arent memes you 56% face
>>769216295
how many mass shootings did usa have that year?
>>769235636
nice try, shopbot.
>>769216765
>>769216765
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>>769235686
What does it matter?
Anon stated a fact.
>>769235478
that's becouse you have a fucked up healthcare system you mongoloid fucktard but one issue at a time, we need to convinve you to let go of the fucking guns because you kill eachother in mass shootings and i can't believe is this difficult. i just hope till 2030 you drop your population to around 25-30 000 people
>>769217190
>>769217623
Except he signed an executive order forbidding the sale of military equipment to police departments and Trump signed an executive order renouncing it.
I don't support Obama, disliked him as a president, voted for myself this election, but at least meme correctly.
this is a perfect video explaining the situation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJ38n1sDosg
>>769217255
is this syria?
>>769217385
kek
>>769234745
If you can't stop a stabber how do you stop a shooter?
>>769215457
Far West is that you?
>>769217398
>>769234975
It is your duty to protect yourself, not expect somebody else to do it for you.
>>769235761
why are you dodging the question?
>>769235385
The countries America is at war with is a State Secret.
>>769235307
That would be fine, except California is ~1.48x the pop of Texas. Furthermore all those states allow concealed carry.
>>769235762
Stop whining, you used selective wording to prove your ignorant point that nobody from America cares about.
We care about children, we care about FREEDOM, we care about FREEDOM OF SPEECH, we don't care to give up our rights because of some whiny little bitch asking us to act on emotions instead of common sense or logic.
Stay in your shit hole, obey your god, the Goobermint and leave us alone, if you think our country sucks so much, stop making bait threads on /b/ and worry about your own freedoms being taken.
>>769235951
What was the question?
How many mass shootings we had in America in 2017?
Not sure, I know they aren't usually school related.
>>769236040
Most mass shootings here in America are done by people who obtained their firearms illegally. None of our laws that are on the books now would have stopped these incidents, so the people asking for more regulations are in reality just asking to restrict the people who follow the law.
>>769235686
only one answer is possible
NOT ENOUGH
>>769235798
The slave catchers only need military gear to capture cellphone and laptop assemblers because of the BLM resistance.
>>769215369
Remember the mass shooting where the killers knocked off both armed cops and armed civilians in a restaurant??
You probably don't, since armed cops and civvies couldn't draw a bead on the killers.
Your point is bullshit.
>>769235430
Sorry my misunderstanding.
You’re correct - death via firearm is fairly rare compared to the some 67,000 or so injuries a year via firearm - homicides come in at 11-12k a year, suicides are far more effective at 22-23k a year.
Stats for dying in a mass shooting are even more rare: lifetime odds of 1 in 15,325. To compare, odds for poisoning including drug overdose is 1 in 96. Falling 1 in 127. Diabetes 1 in 53. Cancer or heart disease 1 in 7.
http://www.businessinsider.com/gun-death-statistics-assault-mass-shootings-accidents-2017-10
Firearms are overall statistically a minor issue for everyone. Car deaths, preventable medical error deaths and deaths from smoking are all far more common than gun deaths.
>>769236132
Not true at all, asshat.
>>769230315
And then people kill each otehr with something else, and we wind up making it illegal to own a steak knife or a truck or...
>>769235943
Seriously?
Is it okay for civilians to own and operate a tank?
>>769236362
Yes, it is you moron. Most gangsters in the hood are not legally carrying. Most gangsters that have firearms did not obtain them legally, they don't follow ANY of the laws or regulations we already have.
>>769223699
iad argue until 24 for further time to test for genetic disorders, but 16 works
>>769234161
0 roads + 0 cars = 0 traffic fatalities.
Since traffic fatalities kill WAY more people than mass shootings, we should do that one first.
>>769236358
How many unarmed naked people do american police kill every year?
keep them 'meritards armed so they can decimate themself
>>769217385
(((klippenstein)))
>>769235798
Let’s not only tell half of the truth - the only things the EO prohibited the sell of was tracked armored vehicles, bayonets, grenade launchers, camouflage uniforms, and large-caliber weapons and ammunition. Those wheeled APCs were and are perfectly fine and not prohibited at all.
>>769236358
>Car deaths, preventable medical error deaths and deaths from smoking
Licenses, Licenses+Mandatory training and ad campaigns are the solutions in place for those things. You can keep saying look over here at this stuff, but one thing that is more preventable is responsible gun ownership and the ability to restrict access from those unfit to hold it. Just as most people who have severe anxiety attacks/epilepsy/narcolepsy cannot drive, as well as those who are irresponsible while driving. Medical professionals who are licensed have to do retraining every 2-4 years. And smoking is using tobacco companies money to try to defeat them.
IN MY COUNTRY IS HARD TO ACCESS TO A WEAPON AND, FOR EXAMPLE, THIS SHIT DOESNT HAPPEND IN SCHOOOLS *PIC RELATED.
BTW, THE THIEF'S HERE DON'T USE SHOOTGUNS FOR STEAL A MARKET!!! HOW FUCKING RIDICULOUS!
>>769236550
Unarmed? Not sure for certain but if certain news articles are correct, it’s 300-500 a year out of the over 4,000 shootings a year.
Police make mistakes - poor training, and/or poor officers plus the blue protection they get when incidents occur keep things status quo on their mistakes and abuses of power.
>>769236523
On the path to with automated cars. What will be your excuse then?
>>769215369
I feel like these statistics don't imply what you want them to imply.
SCHOOL SHOOTINGS IN AMERICA ARE FALSE FLAGS TO GET THE CITIZENS SO EMOTIONAL THAT THEY RELINQUISH THEIR GOD GIVEN RIGHTS.
DON'T FALL FOR THIS BULLSHIT.
>>769236825
I agree - but making state agencies follow federal law when not even the Armed Forces follows the reporting laws for prohibited persons due to dishonorable discharges, domestic violence convictions, and mental health issues is something that is a nationwide government issue.
Also most states that issue conceal carry licenses require mandatory renewals for various time periods - my state is every 5 years and the issuing agency does routine checks with state agencies to make sure no one who has a license has been convicted of an offense that would prohibit them from having a license or owning a firearm.
>>769236433
If common criminals wield tanks where you live then it is your right to defend yourself proportionately.
>>769236433
Actually it is legal for civilians to own and operate tanks.
>>769237061
Brainwashing.
>>769236433
Yes. It's okay for civilians to own and operate literally anything they want.
Owning and operating a tank doesn't hurt anyone. If you own 800 acres of land and you place a tank in the middle of it and drive around on dirt mounds you aren't hurting anyone.
It's illegal to run people over and it's illegal to murder people. We don't need to make tank ownership illegal "in case some nutjob uses one to kill somebody!"
Besides - tanks are too expensive for criminals. It's all about cost-benefit analysis, and no criminal would ever bother buying a tank.
>>769237274
Exactly, and why wouldn't it be?
It's just a heavier/more secure truck.
>>769217823
Wow.
>>769237329
Costs a helluva lot more in fuel too.
>>769237360
True, a dune buggy is probably more fun anyways.
But hell, if I were filthy rich, I'd probably fuck around on one too.
>>769237439
Dune buggies are fun. Friend had one when I was younger. We converted it into a fast attack vehicle for paintball games.
Buying guns because you like shooting sports is great. Buying guns because you have Punisher fanasies makes you a faggot.
>>769215369
First of all, Can you call it a shooting rampage if its less than 3?
Secondly, the police cant stop it if civilians do it, so this statistic is completely meaningless, of course the shooter has more time to shoot ppl if you wait for the cops and of course you call the cops if he is killing people and you dont have a gun yourself.
>>769235993
>Hasn't been arrested
>>769237602
I'd like to PunishHer, if you know what I mean.
>>769215369
>when
>>769237654
So?
>>769215988
McDonald's, disarmament, same techniques:
https://www.jhsph.edu/news/news-releases/2011/borzekowski-nag-factor.html
>>769217823
must be pretty late for you Vlad
>>769233067
Bullet kills everyone the same faggot. Even presidents. It's still counts as one death, which is very horrible for a mass shooting
>>769215567
>1 person got shot and didn't die
Wow great point buddy
>>769216170
the definition of triggered
>>769215369
Average death when arms are prohibited : 0.00001
>>769236433
Yeah it is actually
>>769238080
Being this fucking retarded in 2018.
How are you even on the internet right now, amazing.
>>769217268
keep trying
>>769237976
but the secret service/cops didn't even have to use their guns to subdue him
Are there any interesting statistics on air rifle fatalities?
>>769217385
being that young
>>769223616
Gun violence is much higher in regions that vote democrat. Duh.
>>769238080
Lucky we don't have to into that since we have a second amendment, guns are also prohibited in schools. Our country can't be compared with asia or europe
>>769238284
the word "need" is used pretty loosely in that picture.
I dont even know anyone who has needed a gun at any point.
>>769221732
thinks militarizing the civilian police is a great idea
still rejects authoritarianism
>>769238366
That's true, but for those of us in America who aren't scared of our own shadow, would rather have one just in case.
see...
>>769217700
>>769218671
when did california pass open carry?